From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 1 02:36:31 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 02:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29469; Sun, 1 Sep 96 02:36:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA24818 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 02:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA24813 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 02:33:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ux8rl-00038BC; Sun, 1 Sep 96 02:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: del x B Subject: Question regarding Headers Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:07:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I'm running Pine 3.9.1 on AIX 3 for IBM risc/6000. anyway, is there anyway way for pine to display the "Message-ID" in the header? if i need that sort of information, i usually have to use regular 'mail' or "more" the mail file. Thanks. r. vigil vigilr@rpi.edu || http://www.rpi.edu/~vigilr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 1 05:12:58 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00575; Sun, 1 Sep 96 05:12:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA03663 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:10:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eram.esi.com.au (eram.esi.com.au [192.84.230.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA03658 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:10:30 -0700 Received: from eram.esi.com.au (johne@eram.esi.com.au [192.84.230.33]) by eram.esi.com.au (8.6.12/ESI-HUB-2.0) with SMTP id WAA03905 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 22:11:03 +1000 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 22:11:02 +1000 (EST) From: John Egan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII index From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 1 17:03:09 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 17:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04547; Sun, 1 Sep 96 17:03:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA11576 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:56:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns1.tstt.net.tt (ns1.tstt.net.tt [196.3.132.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA11571 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:56:30 -0700 Received: from bamboozled (cuscon23.tstt.net.tt [196.3.132.117]) by ns1.tstt.net.tt (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA15419 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: <322A21BA.3362@tstt.net.tt> Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 19:52:26 -0400 From: Kevin Blackman X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b8Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine news passwd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using pine 3.91 on AIX . My newserver requires authenitcation. Pine reports error 480 authentiation required fro command when trying to access the server. Does pine 3.91 support username, password for news servers ? If not what version of pine does ? -Kevin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 1 21:36:41 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08089; Sun, 1 Sep 96 21:36:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA14707 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:32:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA14701 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:32:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxQc5-00038BC; Sun, 1 Sep 96 21:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Greg Baker Subject: Re: HELP? Source Code req'd for email app Message-Id: <853f11tvk2.fsf@walleroo.rp.CSIRO.AU> References: <508o1f$3p8_002@fan.net.au> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 04:01:01 GMT drtv@qldnet.com.au (Steve) writes:> > Is there any code out there that will assist us with the following: > > PPP dialer > SMTP Send Mail > POP Fetch Mail > CRON - command run on notice > Email receive filter > > > We seek to automate the file download and upload process using SMTP over > TCP/IP. Code will ultimately have to run across DOS, SCO UNIX, WIN 3.X and > WIN 95. Can anyone tell me where I can find some source code to for each of > these modules? > > Please respond to stevenh@fan.net.au You might want to check out comp.lang.perl.modules . Whether or not you actually write the whole thing in Perl (which looks as though it would be an option), I vaguely remember various modules to do many of those things (don't know about CRON under Win3.X, though). Perl modules are (nearly) always provided in source code format. Hope this helps. -- Gregory D. Baker gbaker@rp.csiro.au CSIRO Radiophysics - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - predictions of the future - quantum computers - silly poetry - - the "langue musicale universale" (Solresol) revival project - - - - - - - - - http://www.rp.csiro.au/~gbaker - - - - - - - - - I'm an eccentric mathematician/IT guru/communicator, and I'm looking for a new job in Sydney, Australia. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 01:11:46 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08248; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:11:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA17236 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:06:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA17231 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:06:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxU0o-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nirad@cs.uq.edu.au (Nirad Sharma) Subject: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: 1 Sep 1996 23:40:32 GMT Message-Id: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> I wish to use pine (3.91, linux) to access a mailbox on a remote host using imap but the mailbox is for myself under a different username. How do I appropriately specify this for the inbox-path variable ? Nirad. -- Nirad Sharma, Computer Science, University of Queensland. 4072. Australia http://www.cs.uq.edu.au/~nirad From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 01:16:48 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09549; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:16:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA10684 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:12:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA10679 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:12:04 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:08:01 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) for id JAA02798; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:11:58 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:11:57 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Weird... I've been using the Net for quite a few years now and have to admit that I have never before heard of the "space after the -- in a signature" requirement before. I wonder how many others have? As an aside, I would dispute Sven's suggestion that this form is a *requirement*. It is certainly _optional_ (messages are still delivered if the "-- " line is not present:-) and even then I would say merely a courtesy to others. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 29 Aug 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > In article , > Mike Brudenell wrote: > > Of course, you could take a copy of your normal "--"-less signature into a > > separate file and add the "--". > > As Sven and others have already pointed out, that should be "-- ". The > space is important! > > > Pine can then be configured (in the Setup > > Configuration screen) to use this alternative file. (It only *defaults* > > to a file called ".signature" in your home directory (for UNIX Pine).) > > That's the method I opted for, when I noted the lack of an `enable-sigdashes' > option in the pine setup. > > It's on my list of things to look at creating a patch for, if I ever get some > time. > > Tim > -- > Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu > Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) > Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) > North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 01:36:48 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10225; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:36:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA10941 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:32:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA10936 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:32:19 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:28:16 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA05283; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:32:13 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:32:12 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Kevin Blackman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine news passwd In-Reply-To: <322A21BA.3362@tstt.net.tt> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The current version of Pine -- 3.95 -- supports authentication for reading and/or posting Usenet News articles. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Kevin Blackman wrote: > I am using pine 3.91 on AIX . > My newserver requires authenitcation. > Pine reports error 480 authentiation required fro command when trying to > access the server. > Does pine 3.91 support username, password for news servers ? > If not what version of pine does ? > > -Kevin > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 01:42:54 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09352; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:42:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA17638 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:38:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA17633 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:38:34 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:34:23 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06061; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:38:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:38:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Chris Womack Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Replying In-Reply-To: <508nn2$l7o@star.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I think "DearOldDad"'s somewhat terse reply could perhaps benefit from a small amount of elaboration... Pine allows you to alter its behaviour in a great many (and ever growing:-( number of ways. These are accessed, perhaps unsurprisingly, from a menu item called "SETUP" on the Main Menu. After selecting this and then "Configuration" (as against "Printer", for example) you get to the famous but apparently little discovered "Setup Configuration" screen, where all the innards can be controlled. Looking through the various options available reveals one called "signature-at-bottom" (which looks promising?). It is at _this_ point you can put your cursor on this variable and press "?" to see the on-line help about it. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Chris Womack wrote: > Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before > the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor > to appear after the quoted text? On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > RTFM or ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 02:00:25 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10397; Mon, 2 Sep 96 02:00:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA11233 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:56:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA11228 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:56:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxUkj-00038TC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mentat@caladan.italpro.com (Michele Beltrame) Subject: Re: Pine news passwd Date: 2 Sep 1996 08:13:20 GMT Message-Id: References: <50d886$o72@rain.psg.com> Hi Kevin Blackman ! >I am using pine 3.91 on AIX . >My newserver requires authenitcation. >Pine reports error 480 authentiation required fro command when trying to >access the server. >Does pine 3.91 support username, password for news servers ? >If not what version of pine does ? I had the same problem with Pine 3.91. With 3.95 it seems to works, even if it asks for pwd EVERY TIME you change group, so I really can't use Pine for news. ;-( Mic. -- -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Michele Beltrame Italpro srl mentat@italpro.com http://www.italpro.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 02:40:52 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10991; Mon, 2 Sep 96 02:40:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA18274 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:36:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA18269 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:36:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxVMu-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 02:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Erin Subject: Obvious return address problem Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:07:54 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is probably a dumb question, but... when I post to a newsgroup (say, for example, this one), the index shows "To: alt.test" instead of my email address. How do I change this so that people can see that the post is from me?!?! Thanks for your help. Erin eviers1@umbc.edu + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Tact is for weenies + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 03:41:50 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11330; Mon, 2 Sep 96 03:41:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA12294 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:35:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id DAA12289 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:35:38 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:31:37 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA26618; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:35:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:35:33 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Erin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Obvious return address problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Other people see exactly the right thing. Pine is merely helping you (and you alone) by providing you a little more information than could otherwise be displayed. Instead of just saying Your name as the sender (which you already know!) it displays "To: recipient's name" This is ONLY done on YOUR screen when you display the folder's contents; everyone else has seen exactly the right thing in the message/article you sent out. The "To:" *implies* the message is from yourself, and the extra space is used to show who you sent the message to. In general this extra information is more useful than merely listing your own name and leaving you to guess/remember who you sent this particular message to. It's a shame that so few people appreciate it! :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Erin wrote: > > This is probably a dumb question, but... > when I post to a newsgroup (say, for example, this one), the index shows > "To: alt.test" instead of my email address. How do I change this so that > people can see that the post is from me?!?! > > Thanks for your help. > > Erin > eviers1@umbc.edu > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > Tact is for weenies > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 07:00:55 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 07:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12227; Mon, 2 Sep 96 07:00:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA14519 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 06:57:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA14514 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 06:57:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxZT6-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 06:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: XS Sport Subject: Copy Self ? Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:11:43 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The one thing that stops me from swapping from my slower than slow PC driven Pegasus mail to pine on unix is the fact that I can't find a way to get pine to automatically give me a cc of my out going e-mails. Is there an option other than having to type my own address into the cc everytime I send an e-mail ?? PJ. ``'`` ( . . ) +-----------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.------------------------------------+ | | | XS Sport ... | | | | e-mail : suacj@csv.warwick.ac.uk | | web : http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~suacj/ | | | | .oooO | | ( ) Oooo. | +--------------\ (----( )--------------------------------------+ \_) ) / (_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 08:05:18 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03964; Mon, 2 Sep 96 08:05:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA22031 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:02:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA22026 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:02:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxaTX-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 07:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert addresses between Pine, Eudora, Netscape Date: 2 Sep 1996 14:19:36 GMT Message-Id: <50eqdo$oot@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora to Netscape Pine to Eudora Eudora to Pine Pine to Netscape You can find links to these at the bottom of my Web page at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 08:19:00 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13429; Mon, 2 Sep 96 08:18:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA22176 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:14:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id IAA22168 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:13:51 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:09:47 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA15572; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:13:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:13:45 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: XS Sport Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copy Self ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Look in Pine's Setup Configuration screen for an item called "default-fcc". You can read about it by putting the cursor on it and typing "?". You can override this default value for the fcc (File Carbon Copy) field when composing a message by putting the cursor on a header line, typing ^R to see the Rich Headers, and then blanking the now automatically filled in Fcc header field value. You can also override the default for individuals listed in your address book by setting up an Fcc entry in there for them. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, XS Sport wrote: > > The one thing that stops me from swapping from my slower than slow PC > driven Pegasus mail to pine on unix is the fact that I can't find a way to > get pine to automatically give me a cc of my out going e-mails. Is there > an option other than having to type my own address into the cc everytime I > send an e-mail ?? > > PJ. > > > > ``'`` > ( . . ) > +-----------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.------------------------------------+ > | | > | XS Sport ... | > | | > | e-mail : suacj@csv.warwick.ac.uk | > | web : http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~suacj/ | > | | > | .oooO | > | ( ) Oooo. | > +--------------\ (----( )--------------------------------------+ > \_) ) / > (_/ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 09:09:22 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13641; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:09:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA22906 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:07:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA22900 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:07:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxbTN-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: QUESTION: sending to a few people Date: 1 Sep 1996 16:08:07 GMT Message-Id: <50ccd7$qj4@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <5078sr$69n@lex.zippo.com> Un jour, clbell@clan.lib.nv.us (clbell@clan.lib.nv.us) affirmait publiquement que: | I want to send a message to 10 or more people. Is there a way to add | the addresses without everyone getting a list of who was also sent that | message (the last one I sent, the addresses in the "TO:" line was a | page long). The cheap and easy way: To: you Bcc: Everyone else. HTH (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Le véritable lieu de naissance est celui où l'on a porté pour la première fois un coup d'oeil intelligent sur soi-même. -- M. Yourcenar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 09:12:05 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13854; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:12:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA15875 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:02:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA15870 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:02:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxbNC-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 08:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Question regarding Headers Date: 1 Sep 1996 16:10:40 GMT Message-Id: <50cci0$qj4@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, del x B (vigilr@rpi.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | anyway, is there anyway way for pine to display the "Message-ID" | in the header? Hint: "Display of full headers" HTH... (CC'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Le véritable lieu de naissance est celui où l'on a porté pour la première fois un coup d'oeil intelligent sur soi-même. -- M. Yourcenar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 09:42:17 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14137; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:42:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA16374 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:37:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA16369 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:37:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxbxd-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John O. Stambaugh" Subject: viewing-3.93-shell-Amiga Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 09:07:23 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have seen a few post asking about viewing pictures with pine. Never did see any replys (probably in FAQ). But where is FAQ? How do I get there? Other wise, how do I view with abouve set-up? John O. Stambaugh Lantana, Florida USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 09:50:35 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14241; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:50:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA23488 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:47:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA23483 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:47:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxc7h-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Question related to version 3.95 Date: 2 Sep 1996 16:08:40 GMT Message-Id: <50f0q8$4u4@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <3228C796.791F@eecs.wsu.edu> Un jour, Serban Boca - EECS (sboca@eecs.wsu.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | I have encountered the following problem when we updated to this 3.95 | version (running under HP-UX): In the "sent-mail" folder, the column | reserved for the recipients' addresses is, instead, filled out with the | sender address (i.e., my name). On my HPUX10.01, I don't have that problem. It was compiled as default. (CC'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Les moments où l'on ne peut mentir sont précisément ceux où l'on ment le plus et surtout à soi-même. -- R. Radiguet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 12:06:05 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14363; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:06:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA18339 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:02:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA18334 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:02:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxeBs-00038TC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 11:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steelrat@interaccess.com (Slippery Jim DiGrz) Subject: Multiple simultaneous IMAP sessions Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 16:44:14 GMT Message-Id: <3229bd23.10924463@news.interaccess.com> I'm in a situation where multiple people need to be able to manipulate mail for a single account simultaneously from a remote system. IMAP4 looks like its the way to go but I have a few questions. I found the following info in the IMAP mailing list archives regarding multiple logins considering each IMAP session starts a server(daemon) proccess: >If the second IMAP server has read/write access to the folder, it will steal >the access rights from the first IMAP server and send the first IMAP server a >signal (called "kiss of death") which instructs it to consider the folder >readonly for the remainder of the session. The idea is that an abandoned or >forgotten IMAP server should relinquish control to a new server; in the past, >the first IMAP server held on to read/write access rights and would not permit >the second IMAP server to get it. [snip] >The solution to this conumdrum is to use a different format, one designed to >permit multiple simultaneous access. The UW version 4.0 imapd supports no >less than 5 alternative mailbox formats (3 in the version 3.6 imapd >distributed with Pine). > >The Pine technical notes contain instructions on the use of one such format, >tenex, which originated on the old Tenex systems and was later carried over to >Unix with the MM mailer. In addition to tenex, the UW imapd also supports MH, >MTX (like tenex, but with CRLF newlines instead of LF newlines -- this is >strictly compatible with the old Tenex/TOPS-20 systems as well as with PC Pine >on DOS and Windows), MBX (an advanced successor to MTX, with full IMAP4 >capability), and MX (an advanced successor to MH, with full IMAP4 capability). My questions are as follows: Currently, I'm running qmail as my MTA. Is there any way to get qmail to convert incoming mail to one of the above listed formats that will handle multiple simultaneous access or will I need to change my MTA? If I need to change my MDA, where can I find one that can handle any of the above listed formats that will handle multiple simultaneous access? Are there any IMAP clients for Windows with a "pretty interface" for the people to use that will understand any of the above format? Is there possibly a better IMAPD and/or system to use overall? My key needs in order of priority are: efficient/effective MTA, auto-responder capabilities depending on message header/content, multiple remote simultaneous access, and "pretty interface" mail client. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -steelrat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 12:07:49 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15619; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:07:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA18407 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:05:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA18402 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:05:54 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 2 SEP 96 11:04:20 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:04:20 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: XS Sport Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copy Self ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why not use the "sent-mail" folder for copies of your outgoing mail? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, XS Sport wrote: > > The one thing that stops me from swapping from my slower than slow PC > driven Pegasus mail to pine on unix is the fact that I can't find a way to > get pine to automatically give me a cc of my out going e-mails. Is there > an option other than having to type my own address into the cc everytime I > send an e-mail ?? > > PJ. > > > > ``'`` > ( . . ) > +-----------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.------------------------------------+ > | | > | XS Sport ... | > | | > | e-mail : suacj@csv.warwick.ac.uk | > | web : http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~suacj/ | > | | > | .oooO | > | ( ) Oooo. | > +--------------\ (----( )--------------------------------------+ > \_) ) / > (_/ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02474; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:41:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA25913 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:37:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA25908 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:37:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxekl-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:49:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 2 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote (excerpted): > I've been using the Net for quite a few years now and have to admit that I > have never before heard of the "space after the -- in a signature" > requirement before. I had heard of it before. In order to be a "signature" in the esoteric technical sense, it has to begin with two hyphens followed by a blank, the three to be left-justified on a line by themselves. However, Pine will cheerfully include whatever you have in your $HOME/.signature file, whether it meets this requirement or not. > As an aside, I would dispute Sven's suggestion that this form is a > *requirement*. It is certainly _optional_ (messages are still delivered > if the "-- " line is not present:-) and even then I would say merely a > courtesy to others. I suppose it may depend on what Sven means by a requirement. I simply consider my so-called signature to be the bottom part of my text, conveniently and automatically added for me by Pine. However, some people may be using software to preprocess incoming mail. That preprocessing may include some kind of manipulation of the signature in the above technical sense. If that is so, then "signatures" which do not begin with '-- ' will possibly not be caught by the prepro- cessor, rather to the frustration of the recipient. However, I am not aware that there is any RFC requirement that there be a signature at all on email, and often, email generated from Web pages have no signature in the technical sense, but they are still delivered. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15911; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:53:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA18920 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:47:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA18915 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:47:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxexp-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:45:46 GMT On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 2 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote (excerpted): > > > I've been using the Net for quite a few years now and have to admit that I > > have never before heard of the "space after the -- in a signature" > > requirement before. > > I had heard of it before. In order to be a "signature" in the > esoteric technical sense, it has to begin with two hyphens followed > by a blank, the three to be left-justified on a line by themselves. I had also "heard" if before, but when I challenged the informant for chapter and verse, they merely told me they "knew" that this was the rule. So I was, and apparently we all still are, unaware of who makes this rule and where it is documented. > However, I am not aware that there is any RFC requirement that > there be a signature at all on email, and often, email generated from > Web pages have no signature in the technical sense, but they are still > delivered. Quite so. My only real reason for following-up is in an attempt to provoke someone into "naming their source". best regards "Only mediocrity can guarantee to be at its best all the time". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16186; Mon, 2 Sep 96 13:11:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA19267 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:08:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns1.ptd.net (ns1.ptd.net [198.80.46.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id NAA19262 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:08:45 -0700 Received: from ns1.ptd.net (medowswt@postoffice.ptd.net [198.80.46.11]) by ns1.ptd.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02127 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:08:42 -0400 (EDT) From: One or more of the Smiths X-Sender: medowswt@ns1.ptd.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I'm a new user. How do I create a signature? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I read the help on how to create a signature file (saving it to '.signature') but how do I do it? I've been searching for info on how to but without any luck. I hope someone can help me with this seemingly simple problem. Ben Smith 2054 Smith Rd, Lodi, NY, 14860 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17182; Mon, 2 Sep 96 14:30:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA27551 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:28:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA27544 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:27:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxgUk-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 14:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:00:09 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 2 Sep 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > I have one particular problem that really bugs me. It drives me nuts > actually and has ever since I started with Pine. Say I am writing a > message, probably a few paragraphs. So I type away. Now I look back and > decide I want to insert a couple lines in the middle of the first > paragraph. So I cursor up there and type that. But it doesn't work. > The line I'm typing on just insists on getting longer (with a $ at the > end), and doesn't wrap around. So this really gets to be a chore! > > I have to cursor over to the end of the line, hit Return, and then set > about adjusting each following line in that paragraph so that it looks > nice and proper with ~70 char's per line. > > Why does Pine do this to me? And why can't it work like a fairly > "half"-decent wordprocessor? The editor I'm using is Pico. Go to Setup/Config and see what the value for "composer-wrap-column" is. If it's 0 or if it's set wider than what your screen can display, there's your problem. A good rule of thumb, IMO, is to set it from 74 to 78 since most users operate at a width of 80 columns. Hope this helps! -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@otto.cmr.fsu.edu Instrument: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s Last words: Typing? What's that? } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16168; Mon, 2 Sep 96 15:47:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA21308 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:43:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA21303 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:42:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxhcy-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 15:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joshua Hosseinof Subject: Re: Obvious return address problem Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:01:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Probably is right, but i suppose it should be covered in the FAQ. If you log into a friends account you will see that it does show your name. Mail or posts that are from you are shown in the index with the To: header. Just look in your sent-mail folder - its the same way in there. On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Erin wrote: > > This is probably a dumb question, but... > when I post to a newsgroup (say, for example, this one), the index shows > "To: alt.test" instead of my email address. How do I change this so that > people can see that the post is from me?!?! > > Thanks for your help. > > Erin > eviers1@umbc.edu > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > Tact is for weenies > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14099; Mon, 2 Sep 96 17:07:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA29541 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:03:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA29522 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:03:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxiwl-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 17:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Subject: Peeve about writing a message Date: 2 Sep 1996 14:27:25 GMT Message-Id: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I have one particular problem that really bugs me. It drives me nuts actually and has ever since I started with Pine. Say I am writing a message, probably a few paragraphs. So I type away. Now I look back and decide I want to insert a couple lines in the middle of the first paragraph. So I cursor up there and type that. But it doesn't work. The line I'm typing on just insists on getting longer (with a $ at the end), and doesn't wrap around. So this really gets to be a chore! I have to cursor over to the end of the line, hit Return, and then set about adjusting each following line in that paragraph so that it looks nice and proper with ~70 char's per line. Why does Pine do this to me? And why can't it work like a fairly "half"-decent wordprocessor? The editor I'm using is Pico. - Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18526; Mon, 2 Sep 96 17:55:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA22933 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:53:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA22928 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:53:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxjjk-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 17:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mentat@caladan.italpro.com (Michele Beltrame) Subject: Re: I'm a new user. How do I create a signature? Date: 3 Sep 1996 00:14:43 GMT Message-Id: References: Hi One or more of the Smiths ! >I read the help on how to create a signature file (saving it to >'.signature') but how do I do it? I've been searching for info on how to >but without any luck. I hope someone can help me with this seemingly >simple problem. Just edit the .signature file with your favourite editor (I use Emacs for instance, you may use Pico, VI or something else) writing the signature into it as plain ASCII. All done! Mic. -- -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Michele Beltrame Italpro srl mentat@italpro.com http://www.italpro.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19035; Mon, 2 Sep 96 18:04:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA00467 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:03:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA00462 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:03:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxjqu-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 18:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mentat@caladan.italpro.com (Michele Beltrame) Subject: Re: Two simple(?) questions. Date: 3 Sep 1996 00:16:50 GMT Message-Id: References: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> Hi Warren or Tony Lieuallen ! >2) Is it possible to turn off writing to dead-letter? Yes, there's a flag in PINE Setup (or at least it is in Pine 3.95). It is called quell-dead-letter-on-cancel... set it to ON. Mic. -- -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Michele Beltrame Italpro srl mentat@italpro.com http://www.italpro.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19423; Mon, 2 Sep 96 18:50:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA23581 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:47:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from moose.uvm.edu (moose.uvm.edu [132.198.101.60]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id SAA23576 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:47:24 -0700 Received: (from nfox@localhost) by moose.uvm.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA31248; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:47:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:47:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "N D. Fox" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: cursor in wrong position Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Whom it may concern, I'm having trouble w/ pine in the respect that my cursor appears one line above where the text appears. I've tried all alternatices including pine help and local network administrator. please send e-mail if there is a command in pine that I am not familiar with that will rectify this situation. Thanks, Dave Fox University of Vermont nfox@moose.uvm.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19751; Mon, 2 Sep 96 19:35:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA24106 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:33:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA24101 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:33:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxlFG-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 19:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:01:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Jago wrote: > Go to Setup/Config and see what the value for "composer-wrap-column" > is. If it's 0 or if it's set wider than what your screen can display, > there's your problem. A good rule of thumb, IMO, is to set it from 74 to > 78 since most users operate at a width of 80 columns. Hope this helps! I should make a correction. You can set the margin any width you want. It's just a good idea to not exceed 80 columns. Sorry for the slight confusion. Best regards..... -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@otto.cmr.fsu.edu Instrument: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s Last words: Typing? What's that? } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20219; Mon, 2 Sep 96 21:05:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA02674 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:58:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA02669 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:58:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxmZt-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 20:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 3 Sep 1996 03:12:26 GMT Message-Id: <50g7mq$666@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> In article , Alan J. Flavell wrote: >On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: >> However, I am not aware that there is any RFC requirement that >> there be a signature at all on email, and often, email generated from >> Web pages have no signature in the technical sense, but they are still >> delivered. There is no "requirement" of the _existence_ of a signature. However, there is a longstanding practice, when including one, of prefacing it with the "-- " line. >Quite so. My only real reason for following-up is in an attempt >to provoke someone into "naming their source". Well, MY original source was various documentation surrounding trn and elm, but I did find some acknowledgement of this practice elsewhere. See section 4.3.2 of "Son of RFC 1036": ftp://ftp.zoo.toronto.edu/pub/news.txt.Z # [...] # If a poster or posting agent does append a signature to an # article, the signature SHOULD be preceded with a delimiter # line containing (only) two hyphens (ASCII 45) followed by # one blank (ASCII 32). # [...] # A # standard delimiter line makes it possible for # reading agents to handle signatures specially if # desired. (This is unfortunately hampered by # extensive misunderstanding of, and misuse of, the # delimiter.) # # NOTE: The choice of delimiter is somewhat unfortu- # nate, since it relies on preservation of trailing # white space, but it is too well-established to # change. # [...] Note that this document is specifically written for USENET news posts, not email, but the rationale behind the "-- " delimiter is as valid for email as for news. -- =========== R o b F u n k ===========|===========> funk+@osu.edu <=========== Guildenstern: "So there you are." |rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Rosencrantz: "Stark raving sane." |rfunk@peri.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tom Stoppard, Ros. & Guil. Are Dead)|http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21534; Mon, 2 Sep 96 22:12:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA03599 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:08:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA03594 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:08:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxniz-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 22:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: I'm a new user. How do I create a signature? Date: 2 Sep 1996 23:26:06 GMT Message-Id: <50fqee$h13@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, One or more of the Smiths (medowswt@prolog.net) affirmait publiquement que: | I read the help on how to create a signature file (saving it to | '.signature') but how do I do it? I've been searching for info on how to | but without any luck. I hope someone can help me with this seemingly | simple problem. Main Menu Setup Signature That is: "mss" HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Ne pas s'occuper des autres, c'est toute la distinction; s'en occuper, c'est toute la politesse. -- Les Goncourt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21795; Mon, 2 Sep 96 22:43:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA26575 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:38:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA26569 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:38:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxoBE-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 22:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyhsu@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USER) Subject: Is there a qmail mailing list? Date: 3 Sep 1996 03:42:41 GMT Message-Id: <50g9fh$mhv@voyager.iii.org.tw> If anyone knows the qmail mailing list or news group, please let me know. I am having some problems with qmail and need to ask a few questions. For example, I could not setup the time to the format that I like. Qmail keep telling me it couldn't find checkpasswd, so I could provide POP3 to my users. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22945; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:10:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA28212 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 00:59:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id AAA28207 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 00:59:14 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:55:10 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA05754; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:59:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:59:09 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "John O. Stambaugh" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewing-3.93-shell-Amiga In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, John O. Stambaugh wrote: > I have seen a few post asking about viewing pictures with pine. Never did > see any replys (probably in FAQ). Ummm... I don't actually recall seeing such a question go by recently (but then I confess I have been somewhat snowed under with other things). The description below assumes you are using (the current) version 3.95 of Pine on UNIX. I don't use PC-Pine myself but believe things to probably be configurable in a similar way; however filenames etc will be different. Method 1 -------- At Pine's Main Menu type "S" (Setup) then "C" (Configuration) to get to the Setup Configuration screen. Look down for a variable called "image-viewer", put your cursor on it, and type "?" to read the on-line help about it. Method 2 (preferred nowadays) -------- Set up a personal "Mailcap" file (or ask your system manager to set one up systemwide. This file contains information on the command to use to view an attachment of a particular MIME type. It is more flexible than the old "image-viewer" variable described above, as you can use different viewers to view different formats of image. If you need assistance setting up a mailcap file try asking your local support desk. > But where is FAQ? How do I get there? The FAQ is available on the World-Wide Web at the Pine Information Centre: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ > Other wise, how do I view with abouve set-up? I'm not sure what the "above setup is", as I said above. The instructions I summarised will work for UNIX Pine, and probably (in some shape or form) for PC-Pine. However if you're referring to an Amiga (in the Subject line) then I have no specific information I can give. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22815; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:19:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA28391 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:13:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA28386 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:13:35 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:09:07 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA07614; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:13:06 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:13:06 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Alan J. Flavell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Alan J. Flavell wrote: > On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > > On 2 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote (excerpted): > > > > > I've been using the Net for quite a few years now and have to admit that I > > > have never before heard of the "space after the -- in a signature" > > > requirement before. > > > > I had heard of it before. In order to be a "signature" in the > > esoteric technical sense, it has to begin with two hyphens followed > > by a blank, the three to be left-justified on a line by themselves. > > I had also "heard" if before, but when I challenged the informant for > chapter and verse, they merely told me they "knew" that this was the > rule. So I was, and apparently we all still are, unaware of who makes > this rule and where it is documented. In a fit of early morning madness I present for your delectation this momentary diversionary tale from someone at my church. Please forgive me the normally unpardonable sin of wandering slightly but it is, perhaps, in some sense relevant... ----- A little girl had for some years watched her mother prepare the joint of beef for their family's traditional Sunday dinner. The girl had long wondered why her mother always cut off an inch-wide slice from the end of the joint and threw it away before putting the remainder in the oven. One day she plucked up her courage and asked her mother why she did this. Her mother stopped, looking non-plussed, and admitted that she really didn't know why, but did it because _her_ mother had always done so. So when they next visited the little girl's grandmother they asked her why she had always cut the end inch off the Sunday joint. She replied, "Back when I got married we had a house with a very small kitchen, which had a very small cooker. We had to use a small roasting tin to fit in the oven, and the joint of meat was always a little to big to fit onto it so I had to trim the end of it off." ----- Moral: Tradition is powerful and persists even when reason fades. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23080; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:32:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA05939 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:25:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA05934 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:25:25 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:21:12 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA08891; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:25:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:25:11 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Adam Vardy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message In-Reply-To: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Ummm... it sounds like there may be something funny with your setup... Question: Are you really using Pico (the separate standalone editor invoked either manually or automatically from Pine as the "alternate editor"), or using Pine's built-in composer (which is Pico in disguise). You can tell by starting to compose a message and, the cursor in the Message Text area, looking at the header line at the top of the screen. If this looks something like this: PINE 3.95L COMPOSE MESSAGE REPLY Folder: INBOX 53 Messages Then you're using Pine's built-in composer and I'm confused by what you report you're seeing. Let me elucidate... Pine's built-in composer certainly does word-wrap if you go back and add text to an existing line in a paragraph. However the word-wrapping is limited in that: * Words are pushed off thee line onto a new line inserted after the current one (ie, they aren't added to and rewrapped into subsequent lines). * Deleting words from a line does not "suck back" words from the subsequent lines. This is primarily because the composer (and standalone Pico's word wrap mode) is a text editor, not a full-blown word processor. Word-wrapping in this manner is the default action for both Pine's built-in composer (Pico in disguise) and standalone Pico. For the latter the action can be suppressed by starting it with the "-w" command line option, which will then give the effect you describe. This tends to make me think that you're not using Pine's built-in composer, but instead invoking Pico with a "pico -w" command setup either in your own personal configuration or in your system's systemwide Pine configuration file. Check your Setup Configuration screen for the value (if any) set up for the "editor" variable. Finally... both Pico and Pine's built-in composer offer a very handy command that justifies (re word-wraps) the current paragraph. This is ^J (shown in the command menu at the bottom of the screen). Just put your cursor on the untidy paragraph and type ^J for it to be rewrapped. (A "paragraph" is a sequence of lines delimited either by blank lines or a line with leading whitespcae.) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 2 Sep 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > I have one particular problem that really bugs me. It drives me nuts > actually and has ever since I started with Pine. Say I am writing a > message, probably a few paragraphs. So I type away. Now I look back and > decide I want to insert a couple lines in the middle of the first > paragraph. So I cursor up there and type that. But it doesn't work. > The line I'm typing on just insists on getting longer (with a $ at the > end), and doesn't wrap around. So this really gets to be a chore! > > I have to cursor over to the end of the line, hit Return, and then set > about adjusting each following line in that paragraph so that it looks > nice and proper with ~70 char's per line. > > Why does Pine do this to me? And why can't it work like a fairly > "half"-decent wordprocessor? The editor I'm using is Pico. > > - Adam > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23176; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:35:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA05985 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:29:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA05980 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:28:56 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:24:47 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA09454; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:28:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:28:46 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: One or more of the Smiths Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I'm a new user. How do I create a signature? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" One way is to use a text editor (not Pine, which is a mail program) to create a file called ".signature" in your home directory. If you don't know what editors are available to you, or how to use them, you will need to ask your local support desk. However if you are using the latest version of Pine (3.95 -- it tells you up at the top left corner of your screen when you're within Pine) there is a built-in signature editor... At the Main Menu type "S" (Setup) followed by another "S" (Signature). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, One or more of the Smiths wrote: > I read the help on how to create a signature file (saving it to > '.signature') but how do I do it? I've been searching for info on how to > but without any luck. I hope someone can help me with this seemingly > simple problem. > > Ben Smith > 2054 Smith Rd, Lodi, NY, 14860 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23017; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:40:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA28654 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:34:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA28649 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:34:03 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:29:50 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA10170; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:33:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:33:44 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "N D. Fox" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: cursor in wrong position In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" This action has been deliberately chosen by the Pine Team. The reasoning is that the text of your reply is (should be!) the "useful" part of the message, and the quoted text of secondary nature to provide context for the recipient if they can't remember what it is you're waffling on about ;-) This saves the recipient having to wade through reams of included text simply to get to your comments right at the bottom. Therefore the default action is to let you start typing your reply in straight away, all nicely position at the start of the message. However for dinosaurs who really don't like the behaviour (gosh, I'm in a funny mood today:-) or for those who prefer to intersperse their comments after included paragraphs the action can be changed... At Pine's Main Menu go to the Setup Configuration screen (by typing "S" then "C") where, unsurprisingly, you can set Pine's behaviour. Look down the list of items for one called "signature-at-bottom" and make sure it is selected. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, N D. Fox wrote: > > To Whom it may concern, > I'm having trouble w/ pine in the respect that my cursor appears > one line above where the text appears. I've tried all alternatices > including pine help and local network administrator. please send e-mail > if there is a command in pine that I am not familiar with that will > rectify this situation. > > > > Thanks, > Dave Fox > University of Vermont > nfox@moose.uvm.edu > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24811; Tue, 3 Sep 96 04:21:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA08048 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:14:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA08043 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:14:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxtNv-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 04:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr (Ollivier Robert) Subject: Re: Is there a qmail mailing list? Date: 3 Sep 1996 09:50:09 GMT Message-Id: <50gv0h$ncd@polaris.eurocontrol.fr> References: <50g9fh$mhv@voyager.iii.org.tw> [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email] In article <50g9fh$mhv@voyager.iii.org.tw>, PC_USER wrote: > If anyone knows the qmail mailing list or news group, please > let me know. You should: - look at the available newsgroups. c.m.pine is not the right one. Try comp.mail.misc instead (Followups set to it), - look into the documentation, the mailing list is mentionned here. It was on Dan's announce for Qmail too I think. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TIS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr Usenet Canal Historique From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24985; Tue, 3 Sep 96 04:43:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA08360 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:37:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from home.au.ac.th (home.au.ac.th [202.6.101.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id EAA08355 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:37:52 -0700 Received: from au2.au.ac.th (u3810497@au2.au.ac.th [202.6.101.2]) by home.au.ac.th (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19310; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:36:57 +0700 (TST) Received: from localhost by au2.au.ac.th (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA04875; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:43:18 +0700 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:43:17 +0700 (TST) From: Siriwan Premsuwansri To: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Some questions to use Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, This is my first try to use Email so I have confused in using Pine. First of all , I have some questions to use and would like you to advise me as below : 1.Pine is text mode only , isn't it? 2.Can I save my inward mail to my hardisk? How to do it? 3.What is the meaning of "Folder" in Email? and How many folder can I create? Thank you very much for your kind assistance and look forward your early reply. Thanks and best regards, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15932; Tue, 3 Sep 96 05:12:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA01152 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:04:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA01147 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:04:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxu8c-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 04:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: Rolling out Pine Date: 31 Aug 1996 11:18:29 -0400 Message-Id: References: <508ekc$qb5@crl.crl.com> ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) writes: > I am in the process of rolling out pine as an option to one hundred > users, how to I setup pine, so that when they first try pine they > dont get the "request for more tips on pine email" thingy. > I dont want 100 pices of the same email coming to each user on day one. Well, in the true tradition of Unix help: I can't tell you the answer, but I can tell you how to find it, and I don't think you need it. Where does each user's pine store state between invocations? In the ".pinerc" file (or the equivalent PC file). That would be the place to check. My guess is that it's the "last-version-used" variable. Experiment with that, and either distribute appropriately jiggered .pinerc files, or (if it works) diddle the systemwide .pinerc file (again, if on a Unix system). But... I see a more fundamental problem. If you think your email system may not be able to handle one message per day per user, I think you need to rethink your email strategy, not the intro-message-mailing strategy. I'm not sure how useful an email system can be if it is stressed by that load. Good luck! -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25167; Tue, 3 Sep 96 05:12:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA08665 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:04:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id FAA08660 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:04:20 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22245; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA30821; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA02784; Tue, 3 Sep 96 08:02:34 EDT Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:02:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 Reply-To: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mail List Cc: "s.m masieh ul islam" Subject: Re: PRINTING TEXTS OF EMAIL MESSAGES (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Pine Info members: A few weeks ago, S.M. Masieh ul Islam posted a message asking for help in printing email messages. I asked him for more information, and I think he has provided enough information that someone can answer his question. He is running in a DOS/Windows environment with a Canon BJC-210 attached to his PC. He is dialing in to the Pakistan Telecommunication Corp. PARKNET service via modem and, presumably, Windows Terminal program, to run Pine. Can the Windows program be configured to recognize the print-through commands? Is there another Windows telecommunications program he can buy/download that is compatible with the print through commands? Is there some other way he can print his messages, short of saving to a file and downloading via xmodem, kermit, etc. Regards, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:39:30 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: "s.m masieh ul islam" To: Don Sugarman Cc: razas02@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Subject: Re: PRINTING TEXTS OF EMAIL MESSAGES DEAR DON SUGARMAN ,I AM USING PC PINE IN DOS/WINDOWS ENVIRNOMENT. - PRINTER IS NOT CONNECTED TO LAN SERVER OR TO UNIX SERVER.THERE IS NO LAN INSTALLED.MY PC IS WORKING AS STAND ALONE UNIT AND IS CONNECTED THRO MODEM TO PAKISTAN TELECOMMUNICATION CORPORATION `PAKNET` SYSTEM.THROUGH THEM I GET CONNECTED TO PINE AND TO INTERNET. I SHALL APPRECIATE FURTHER HELP.REGARDS.MASIEH From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25634; Tue, 3 Sep 96 05:56:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA09192 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:45:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com (intfw.bear.com [206.25.172.66]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA09187 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:45:54 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13186; Tue, 3 Sep 96 08:45:15 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma012860; Tue Sep 3 08:42:36 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA02112; Tue, 3 Sep 96 08:44:53 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA09466; Tue, 3 Sep 96 08:43:22 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA08966; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:42:40 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26185; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:42:38 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA10884; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:42:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:42:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: Don Sugarman Cc: Pine Info Mail List , "s.m masieh ul islam" Subject: Re: PRINTING TEXTS OF EMAIL MESSAGES (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Don Sugarman wrote: > To Pine Info members: > > > Can the Windows program be configured to recognize the print-through > commands? Is there another Windows telecommunications program he can > buy/download that is compatible with the print through commands? Is there > some other way he can print his messages, short of saving to a file and > downloading via xmodem, kermit, etc. > > Regards, > > Don Sugarman > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com > I've seen commercial terminal emulation apps that can do this, but I can't remember the names of them. Flipping through any software mag ought to get you some candidates. You should, of course, ask the vendor if their product supports this behavior before buying. Alternatively, he should be able to use the windows terminal emulator to print the screen, no? Good luck. Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26085; Tue, 3 Sep 96 06:41:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA02382 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:39:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sdnhq.undp.org (sdnhq.undp.org [192.124.42.79]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id GAA02377 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:39:20 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sdnhq.undp.org (8.7.5/8.6.9) with UUCP id JAA29725 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:27:31 -0400 Received: from khi.UUCP by sdnpk.undp.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id RAA32036 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:50:22 +0500 Received: from sirsyed.UUCP by khi.sdnpk.undp.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id PAA05027 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:47:16 +0500 Received: (from majmal@localhost) by sirsyed.khi.sdnpk.undp.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA00913; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:28:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:28:23 -0400 (GMT-0400) From: "M. Ajmal" To: pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello Plrase sent me the latest news on pine and its new features From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22069; Tue, 3 Sep 96 07:24:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA10320 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:12:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA10315 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:12:42 -0700 Received: from [205.247.120.201] ([205.247.120.201]) by nerc3.nerc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA01818 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:12:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199609031412.KAA01818@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 96 10:12:30 -0400 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: telling PINE my PPP is down Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Occasionally my PPP connection dies at times when I am running PINE (usually to read news off a remote NNTP machine). Then it just hangs there for a LONG time, and finally says "Waited for server for X seconds, hangup?" Where X seconds is not as long as it really has been waiting.... Anyway, where is this time-to-ask-if-pine-should-break-connection set? Thanks TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next LOOKING FOR NS 3.3 (m68k) User/Dev (cheap ;-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27073; Tue, 3 Sep 96 07:59:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA11032 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:54:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA11027 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:54:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxwqq-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 07:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan Yorinks Subject: Re: Port for QNX? Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 10:20:00 -0400 Message-Id: <322C3E90.24E5@lucent.com> References: <322822EC.47E2@monmouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan Yorinks wrote: > > Is anyone aware of a port for the QNX operating system? > > Thanks, > Alan Yorinks > afy@lucent.com I answered my own question. I ported it myself this weekend. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30194; Tue, 3 Sep 96 09:33:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA05372 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:19:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA05367 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:19:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxyBm-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 09:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Q: changing the "From"-Field in outgoing messages Date: 3 Sep 1996 12:13:25 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5010qv$eel@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <5019ou$29e@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) writes: >hereth@aeeo.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Ralf Hereth) writes: >>Does anybody know a possibility to change the "From"-field of outgoing mail >>to another address? > >but >isn't it possible to put a "From: address" in the customized header? >I do this with elm. Yes, many MUAs, including elm, let you change the `From:' header. With pine you need to recompile it so that ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is not commented out. Good luck, Nancy (posted and mailed) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31020; Tue, 3 Sep 96 10:06:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA13949 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:52:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu (frank.mtsu.edu [161.45.128.109]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id JAA13935 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:51:56 -0700 Received: by frank.mtsu.edu (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA186319589; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:53:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:53:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Sheraz Hanif To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto mail forwarding Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! Is there any "auto mail forwarding" function in pine. If it is, then how can set it up? Sheraz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01763; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:17:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA17615 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:10:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA17610 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:10:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy0oD-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Melusky" Subject: Re: HELP Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:19:49 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, John O. Stambaugh wrote: > Please send a keystroke for keystroke process to put my name in the "from" > box. When I reply to someone in a newsgroup my message as listed in the > "I" or list screen has "reply to" or something like that. Using Pine 3.93 > on a shell account. > Thanks > John O. Stambaugh > Lantana, Florida USA Hi John, There is no need to do anything I guess. I was told that everyone else can see the name "John O. Stambaugh" but we can't see our own names. Take care, Jon. PS If you want to see your own name then ask this group again but be specific in the subject line. "HELP" does not get a whole lot of replies compared to a detailed subject line. Ok? It is also the same in the personals Usenet groups. If you don't put the city and area code of yourself in the subject line then you will get almost no responses. o __/\o_ __o < \ _ \<_ _/\ (_)/(_) / Triathalon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02159; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:31:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA10517 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:25:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA10512 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:25:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy15a-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: iso-2022-jp Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:27:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Tony, One of our user services people at UW is preparing a long document describing how to do Japanese mail reading with Pine. It's still in preliminary state and has known errors, so I don't know if she wants to let it out yet. But I've bcc'd her on this message; if she wants to send you a copy on a "use at your own risk" basis that'd be her decision... On 23 Aug 1996, Tony wrote: > I am getting overloaded with e-mail from Japan because I subscribe to the > mail list of my favorite Japanese pop music star. Only problem is, all > incoming mail is being typed using iso-2022-jp!!!!!! > > I was wondering if there was some way I could decipher or decode > iso-2022-jp code using PINE in order to render it into either its Kanji/kana > equivalent or into some for which is readable in English???? Or do I have > to go a different route? ISO-2022-JP is simply mixed ASCII (English) and JIS (Japanese) text in 7 bits, using ESC codes to shift back and forth between them. Your terminal emulator may support this encoding as "JIS7". Pine does not do too well with ESC codes. Each ESC code occupies three bytes, which Pine thinks occupies screen space even when it doesn't. For this reason, I usually convert the data to 8-bit code (either EUC or SJIS) using the display-filter functionality along with the "nkf" program (if you do serious work with Japanese on Unix, you probably have a copy of nkf). You may need to do some experimentation to get it working, and you should also be sure that you're using the latest version of Pine. Earlier versions of Pine have known problems working with Japanese text. For more information about Japanese encodings and the nkf program, I refer to you to Ken Lunde's book "Understand Japanese Information Processing". -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01746; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:36:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA18198 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:30:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA18193 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:30:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy18b-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Multiple simultaneous IMAP sessions Date: 3 Sep 1996 12:56:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3229bd23.10924463@news.interaccess.com> steelrat@interaccess.com (Slippery Jim DiGrz) writes: >If I need to change my MDA, where can I find one that can handle any >of the above listed formats that will handle multiple simultaneous >access? Are there any IMAP clients for Windows with a "pretty >interface" for the people to use that will understand any of the above >format? Is there possibly a better IMAPD and/or system to use >overall? My key needs in order of priority are: efficient/effective >MTA, auto-responder capabilities depending on message header/content, >multiple remote simultaneous access, and "pretty interface" mail >client. I, and probably others, would also like to know this. Please post responses to this question. Thanks much, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02449; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:39:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA10787 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:35:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA10782 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:35:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy1EJ-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skendric@fhcrc.org (Stuart Kendrick) Subject: pine.conf and location of sendmail binary Date: 22 Aug 1996 19:26:06 GMT Message-Id: <4vic8e$ml9@mule.fhcrc.org> I installed Pine, tried to send a message, and received an error to the effect that Pine couldn't find /usr/lib/sendmail. Aha! I thought, I know what the problem is: I've moved sendmail to /opt/local/sbin. So I created /opt/local/lib/pine.conf, consisting of the single line: sendmail-path=/opt/local/sbin/sendmail Tried sending the message again, and Pine (apparently) sent my test message just fine. But in fact, Pine is actually tossing mail into the bit bucket. Copies are saved to sent-mail, of course, but the message itself vanishes. I've run Pine under truss and stared at the output. I can see the call to /opt/local/sbin/sendmail. I hard-linked /usr/bin/sendmail to /opt/local/sbin/sendmail. Same problem. I then removed /opt/local/sbin/pine.conf. Bingo! Things work again. OK, so is this a bug or am I missing something? And can anyone describe the details of how this fails? Clearly, /opt/local/sbin/sendmail gets called ... but it tosses the message, instead of sending it. I don't understand how this can be -- sendmail's behavior at this point should be unrelated to any weirdness on Pine's part. Pine 3.95, Solaris 2.5.1 Attached are entries from syslog. The first illustrates the failure condition. The second illustrates the successful condition. Aug 22 12:20:01 spitbug sendmail[3945]: MAA03945: from=sbk, size=262, class=0, p ri=262, nrcpts=0, msgid=, relay=sbk@localhost Aug 22 12:20:45 spitbug sendmail[3952]: MAA03952: from=, size=280, class=0, pri=30280, nrcpts=1, msgid=, proto=SMTP, relay=sbk@localhost Aug 22 12:20:47 spitbug sendmail[3953]: MAA03952: to=, ctlad dr= (18602/90), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=e smtp, relay=bug1.fhcrc.org. [140.107.10.110], stat=Sent (Ok) --sk Stuart Kendrick Network Services FHCRC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04113; Tue, 3 Sep 96 13:55:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA20377 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:50:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA20372 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:50:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy2Pp-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 13:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bounce@blarg.net (Parri Gignac) Subject: Need help compiling in MkLinux Date: 3 Sep 1996 17:54:50 GMT Message-Id: <50hrda$ojv@guysmiley.blarg.net> Hi, I hope there's someone out there who can give me some direction on what to try or perhaps have had this problem... I have the 3.95 version of Pine to install (hopefully). I have MkLinux for Power Macintosh (running on OSF-RI MACH 3.0) Linux 1.2.13 running on my machine. The build for pico stops dead with: cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 make: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 and my syslog dir has this message: error: cannot execute /usr/bin/rsmtp: No such file or directory Ok, I know I don't have rsmtp, but I haven't seen where I'm supposed to get that util. And I can't find in the Pine files where I can edit out the call to that or change it as well. Any ideas on getting around this? Get a Pico binary and edit out the build line for it? Thanks in advance, Parri Gignac -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27708; Tue, 3 Sep 96 15:35:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA22768 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au (yarra.vicnet.net.au [203.10.72.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA22761 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:31:11 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA02859 for <@yarra.vicnet.net.au:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:30:15 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa08105; 4 Sep 96 8:28 AEST Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:28:58 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: Pine Info Group Subject: Off line reader Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are providing an internet service to a number of vision impaired people who dial up via modem and can access a Pine mailbox and services such as lynx and telnet. I have been asked "is there an off line reader which would work with Pine". My answer was, no I don't think so - but I thought I should ask all you "out there" in case I'm wrong. We are running Pine 3.95 under SCO 4.2 ... Clients generally use telix or procomm for terminal emulation. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06349; Tue, 3 Sep 96 16:18:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA16229 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA16224 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:15:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy4dc-00038UC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 16:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eco922275@ecostat.aau.dk (MONSTER AXP) Subject: Problem defining PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to SMTP Date: 30 Aug 96 21:17:30 GMT Message-Id: <1996Aug30.211730@ecostat> I have a problem concerning the following excerpt from a readme file from HUJI (Pine 3.91 for vms): > >Using >===== > All the user needs is the PINE.EXE; Pine reads the mail from the user's >VMS/MAIL files and send outgoing mail either via mail routines using some >foreign protocol or via direct SMTP to some SMTP server (I preffer this >metod). You use the latter by defining SMTP-SERVER field with some host. >If you do not set it you must define PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to the prefix of >|the foreign protocol used. For example, if you use SMTP% you have to define >|it to SMTP. >|The global PINE configuration file (if needed) is located at >SYS$MANAGER:PINE.CONF; if you want to recompile it with a different name then >modify PINE/OS_VMS.H; > I need to define the PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to SMTP - but where do I do that ? ? and how do I do it ? ? > >Notes: >===== >1. Due to the readonly definition in the source files we use an external > #define to redefine it to something else. Due to that CTYPE.H fails, so > we use a private copy of it. Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but still has no clue what and where to do define Hope someone out there can help me Thanks in advance.. /peter andersen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29319; Tue, 3 Sep 96 16:33:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA24057 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:31:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA24052 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:31:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy4rH-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 16:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dicks@kdsi.net (Dick Strickland) Subject: Pine Install on AIX Date: 3 Sep 1996 16:32:18 GMT Message-Id: <50hmii$25s@news.netusa.net> Good Morning We are looking for someone that we interested in contracting with to install Pine on an RS6000. If you would interested in doing this on a contract basis please e-mail privately estimated time and fees required. TIA Dick Strickland DickS@kdsi.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09007; Tue, 3 Sep 96 18:01:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA18279 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:55:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA18272 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:55:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy6CK-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 17:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fheitka@ibm.net (Fred Heitkamp) Subject: IMAP conflict with mtools!! Date: 3 Sep 1996 11:02:20 GMT Message-Id: <50h37s$432g@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> I've been running pine 3.95 on Linux and I've discovered a potential bug in either pine or mtools. When I type 'mdir' to get a directory of my A: drive, I get a prompt asking about my mail directory. Can anyone verify this for me? Thanks! I'm using Pine 3.95 on Linux kernel 2.0.14 and libc 5.2.18 Fred Heitkamp From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09350; Tue, 3 Sep 96 18:33:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA26464 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:31:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA26457 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:30:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy6nP-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 18:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: auto mail forwarding Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:05:45 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Sep 1996, Sheraz Hanif wrote: > Is there any "auto mail forwarding" function in pine. If it is, then how > can set it up? There is none in Pine. Mail forwarding is not Pine's job. That is part of the delivery process, and Pine comes into the picture only after the mail is delivered. Despair not, however. If you are using Pine on a Un*x system, you can set up a .forward file to have your mail forwarded. For more elaborate information, read 'man forward'. If you are running Pine on some other system, others more knowledgeable than I will have to provide you with information. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25668; Tue, 3 Sep 96 19:24:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA27191 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:22:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA27180 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:21:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy7Yl-00038WC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 19:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chris Marshall Subject: Pine and Solaris 2.5 x86 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:39:24 +0100 Message-Id: <322C350C.41E4@soi.city.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Has anyone had problems using pine (3.95) on solaris 2.5.1 x86? Specifically when using pine to send mail via smtp, my machines lockup and need to be rebooted. -- Chris Marshall From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09957; Tue, 3 Sep 96 19:25:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA19473 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:21:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA19468 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:21:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy7XK-00038UC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 19:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chris Womack Subject: Re: Replying Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 08:50:59 -0500 Message-Id: <322C37C3.12BE@norvell.com> References: <508nn2$l7o@star.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Brudenell wrote: > > I think "DearOldDad"'s somewhat terse reply could perhaps benefit from a > small amount of elaboration... > > Pine allows you to alter its behaviour in a great many (and ever > growing:-( number of ways. These are accessed, perhaps unsurprisingly, > from a menu item called "SETUP" on the Main Menu. After selecting this > and then "Configuration" (as against "Printer", for example) you get to > the famous but apparently little discovered "Setup Configuration" screen, > where all the innards can be controlled. > > Looking through the various options available reveals one called > "signature-at-bottom" (which looks promising?). > > It is at _this_ point you can put your cursor on this variable and press > "?" to see the on-line help about it. > > Cheers, > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Chris Womack wrote: > > > Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before > > the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor > > to appear after the quoted text? > > On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > > > RTFM or ? I've tried this to no avail...it DOESN'T work! As for DearOldDad, I wonder if he has anything better to do than reply to everyone with RTFM? Thanks for explaining the technique to me, but I already tried these options. Chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10298; Tue, 3 Sep 96 20:05:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA19980 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA19971 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:01:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy8CQ-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 20:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Leanne McKay Subject: Re: Obvious return address problem Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 00:49:12 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I have appreciated ;-) this feature since old version 3.05, which I've just swapped for 3.91. In my recently saved messages, I still get 'To:..' but my older messages suddenly just showed my name as the sender. Upon investigating, I found out that pine 3.91 is putting straight in the 'From:' of recent messages, but the earlier version used the $NAME environment variable which had 'L.McKay', so 'From:' had (an alias happily recognised on my system for returns). Pine now thinks I am . Consequently, Pine does not know I wrote the old messages. I've looked at all the new configurable options, but cannot find one that lets me customise what Pine puts in 'From: '. I'd like to use $NAME environment variable again, but have not yet found any documentation that the ability to use it ever existed. Was it a proper feature of Pine 3.05 or would it have just been implemented on our site (and how)? Thanks, Leanne. ************************************************************** _________________ Leanne McKay T T T T T T T T lmckay@nla.gov.au I I I I I I I I National Library of Australia I I I I I I I I Phone: +61 6 262 1479 T T T T T T T T Fax: +61 6 273 3648 =================== ********************************** On 2 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Other people see exactly the right thing. > > Pine is merely helping you (and you alone) by providing you a little more > information than could otherwise be displayed. Instead of just saying > > Your name > > as the sender (which you already know!) it displays > > "To: recipient's name" > > This is ONLY done on YOUR screen when you display the folder's contents; > everyone else has seen exactly the right thing in the message/article you > sent out. > > The "To:" *implies* the message is from yourself, and the extra space is > used to show who you sent the message to. In general this extra > information is more useful than merely listing your own name and leaving > you to guess/remember who you sent this particular message to. > > It's a shame that so few people appreciate it! :-) > > On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Erin wrote: > > > when I post to a newsgroup (say, for example, this one), the index shows > > "To: alt.test" instead of my email address. How do I change this so that > > people can see that the post is from me?!?! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09995; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:04:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA28441 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:01:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA28436 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:01:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy98Z-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 3 Sep 1996 12:27:50 -0400 Message-Id: References: pmb1@york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) writes: >Of course, you could take a copy of your normal "--"-less signature into a >separate file and add the "--". Pine can then be configured (in the Setup >Configuration screen) to use this alternative file. (It only *defaults* >to a file called ".signature" in your home directory (for UNIX Pine).) Yes, this is what I do. I use .signature for most programs and .sig-- for pine. Here's a script I use to edit my sig, which I call `editsig': #! /bin/sh # The above line means that this is a Bourne shell script. # Filename: editsig # Author: Nancy McGough # Last Update: 09 September 1994 $EDITOR $HOME/.signature sed -e '1i\ -- ' $HOME/.signature > $HOME/.sig-- chmod +r $HOME/.signature $HOME/.sig-- cat $HOME/.signature $HOME/.sig-- Enjoy, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07026; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:40:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA21354 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:36:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA21349 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:36:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy9g6-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Problem defining PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to SMTP In-Reply-To: <1996Aug30.211730@ecostat> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <1996Aug30.211730@ecostat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:55:37 GMT On 30 Aug 1996, MONSTER AXP wrote: (about the HUJI port of PINE to VMS) > I need to define the PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to SMTP - but where do I do that ? ? > and how do I do it ? ? That's something that you'd do in VMS, e.g in your LOGIN.COM or in the system-wide counterpart, you'd add: $ DEFINE PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL SMTP However, I got better results by taking the other option, and having the PINE client send its mail by making an SMTP connection to the SMTP server (even though it was on the same machine). This may be less efficient, but it works for me. I haven't messed with that for a while, and my recollection is getting dim, but try http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html for some notes I made at the time. -- best regards "Do the two dashes and a space count against my limit of 4 lines?" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27196; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:54:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA29031 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:52:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA29021 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:52:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy9sL-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: muzok@pacbell.net (muzo) Subject: using RFC 822 code in PINE Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 00:38:51 GMT Message-Id: <322ccf0f.87226557@SantaClara01.news.internex.net> hi, I need to write a mail conversion tool which reads mail files received by POP and stored in individual files and parses them for header, senders, addresses, body etc. Can someone give me some directions on how to use the RFC 822 code to do this ? My OS is Win NT/95 with VC++ 4.2 compiler. thanks muzo NT Kernel Driver Development Consulting (muzok@pacbell.net) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10961; Tue, 3 Sep 96 22:13:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA21752 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:06:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA21747 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:06:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyA5W-00038UC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 22:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Balaji C Krishnan Subject: A question regarding threading Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:09:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I currently use Pine to read my mails. From using Tin I know that it is possible to thread messages so that all the messages on a particular topic appear together. I am teaching a course this semester and am going to teach my students the Pine. I was wondering if it may be possible for them to thread the messages using Pine. Can you please tell me if the facility exists in either Pine or in Netscape. Thanks. Balaji ********************************************************************** Balaji C Krishnan 3450, Nicholson Dr. # 2005, Baton Rouge, LA 70802. Good Morning is an oxymoron for any Home # 504 338 0986 Doctoral student and Assistant Professor. Off # 504 388 8797 *********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 23:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12265; Tue, 3 Sep 96 23:42:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA22836 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 23:36:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA22831 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 23:36:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyBVq-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 23:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmarshall@TRENTU.CA (that Hot Wheels guy) Subject: Any way to send a distribution list? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:09:10 GMT Is there a way to send someone else a distribution list? Dave. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 00:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11107; Wed, 4 Sep 96 00:27:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA00745 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 00:21:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA00740 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 00:21:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyCEn-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 00:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 3 Sep 1996 21:31:20 -0400 Message-Id: References: Nancy McGough writes: > #! /bin/sh If you decide to use my `editsig' script, this first line needs to start in column 1 and *not* indented like I posted it. I.e., the first line should look like this: #! /bin/sh Sorry if the way I posted it was confusing. -Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12761; Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:26:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA24097 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:19:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA24092 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:19:08 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:14:45 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA27060; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:18:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:18:39 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Balaji C Krishnan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A question regarding threading In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Whilst Pine can't do "true threading" (by looking at articles' "Xref:" headers and working out which articles were replies to which others) it can approximate it (probably closely enough for your needs). The trick is, once you open a newsgroup, to use Pine's Sort command to order the articles by "Ordered Subject". This sorts them first by subject text and then, where these are the same, date and time of submission. You do this by typing the two keystrokes: $ O Note that you will have to do this for every folder you open, as it only affects the current index display; it does not remember the sorting for the future. If you wish you can alter the default sort order from Arrival to Ordered Subject in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. However this default order affects ALL your folders: Usenet News and ordinary (mail). For ordinary folders sorting by Arrival is often preferred, so you may want to think about which folders you will be opening more often and set the default sort order to be the best for those. This will minimise the number of times you have to use the "$" (Sort) command. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Balaji C Krishnan wrote: > Hi! > I currently use Pine to read my mails. From using Tin I know that > it is possible to thread messages so that all the messages on a > particular topic appear together. > I am teaching a course this semester and am going to teach my > students the Pine. I was wondering if it may be possible for them to > thread the messages using Pine. Can you please tell me if the facility > exists in either Pine or in Netscape. Thanks. > > > Balaji > ********************************************************************** > Balaji C Krishnan 3450, Nicholson Dr. # 2005, > Baton Rouge, LA 70802. > Good Morning is an oxymoron for any Home # 504 338 0986 > Doctoral student and Assistant Professor. Off # 504 388 8797 > *********************************************************************** > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12008; Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:29:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA24142 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:21:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA24137 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:21:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyDBg-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Igor Zykh Subject: Help: Pine for Solaris 2.x on Pentium? Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:36:30 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I'm looking for compiled (I would prefer that) version of PINE 3.95 for Solaris 2.x running on Pentium. Does anybody know where I can download it? Any help would be very appreciated. Sincerely yours, Igor Zykh Computer Science Department, Telephone: (401) 874-2701 Tyler Hall, Fax: (401) 874-4617 University of Rhode Island Email: igor@cs.uri.edu Kingston, RI 02881 WWW: http://www.cs.uri.edu _________________________________________________________________________ RTSORAC Research Lab http://www.cs.uri.edu/rtsorac/index.html _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13426; Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:57:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA01964 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:47:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from usm.my (usm.my [161.142.14.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA01956 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:47:39 -0700 Received: by usm.my, id AA31860 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:44:55 +0800 (MYt) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:44:55 +0800 (MYt) From: ahmad_b_ismail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID XI7QJ): c (fwd) Message-Id: Organization: Universiti Sains Malaysia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Did you get my messages. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:06:51 -0700 From: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: ahmad_b_ismail Subject: Re: Bug (ID XI7QJ): c ************************************************************************* * The Pine Robot has determined that your message was sent from an * * obsolete release of Pine. Naturally, our focus is on the current * * version, which may well solve the problem you are experiencing, so * * please ask your system administrator to install the latest release. * * It's available at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z * * * * --The Pine Team * ************************************************************************* This is an automated response to your Pine[R] bug report. The purpose of this message is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in advance for the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, and 3) tell you how to get more information or help. Pine is now used by literally millions of people around the world, and thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no longer possible to answer all of them individually. Other sources of help: o In addition to Pine's context-sensitive internal help text, also read the Release Notes (the R command on the Main Menu.) o Check out the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list. To get a copy by email, simply REPLY to this message, or send any message to: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu o Check with your local support staff. If you are not sure how to contact them, try sending a very polite note to "postmaster" on your system, asking that your inquiry be directed to the help desk. o If you can't get any help from your local support staff (or you *are* the local support staff), consider sending a message to the world-wide "pine-info" email list at: pine-info@cac.washington.edu or post to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (pine-info and comp.mail.pine are linked together, so there is no need to both send email and post). Your message will be seen by thousands of Pine users and system administrators, one of whom may have just the information you seek. o If you are handy with FTP or WWW tools, you may find some useful documentation on our Pine Information Center servers: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine o If you really, *really* need to get in touch with the Pine development team directly, send a message to: pine@cac.washington.edu However: please try all the other alternatives first, and understand that because so many people are now sending messages to that address as well --many of which are inquiries that could be answered by reading the documentation or FAQ-- it is no longer possible for us to respond to all of them. Note that we get many questions that are not actually about Pine. In case your inquiry concerns programs such as talk, chat, or IRC, or problems with disk space on your system, or with unknown/invalid email addresses, please contact your local computer support staff. However, we still welcome actual bug reports and suggestions. With sincere apologies for this impersonal response, The Pine Development Team Pine is a registered trademark University of Washington of, and copyright by, the Seattle, WA, USA University of Washington. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13888; Wed, 4 Sep 96 03:16:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA02906 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:11:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA02901 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:11:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyEtk-00038TC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 03:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: Command line option wanted. Date: 28 Aug 1996 16:17:52 GMT Message-Id: <501rfg$ebe@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> References: <4vurml$ris@hummin.sol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Jenks: : Pine Development Team: Would it be possible to include a command like : option that would give the status of a folder (default: INBOX). : 2 New messages, 5 Old messages, Last time Pine used, etc.. There exist separate small programs to do that. Check if your system has the handy frm (and check 'man frm' or 'frm -h' for information on the several command line options). It is a good idea to activate this at login with a line in the .login -file. By the way, frm is from the elm team... -- hl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 06:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15823; Wed, 4 Sep 96 06:17:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA27709 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 06:12:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA27704 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 06:12:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyHha-00038TC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 06:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Hereth Subject: Re: Q: changing the "From"-Field in outgoing messages Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:53:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: <5010qv$eel@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5010qv$eel@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Thank you to all who answered. That's the solution: I changed the option ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM in the file pine/osdep/os-lnx.h and then recompiled the binaries. Then I added a proper "From:..."-header to the customized headers. Seems to work fine. Ralf Hereth From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19579; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:09:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA08373 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA08368 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:02:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyKOP-00038UC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Schuller Subject: Trivial question Date: 4 Sep 1996 12:47:33 GMT Message-Id: <50jtp5$hv1@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Hi all, I have a very long mail and I want to go to the end of it, is there a way to do it without typing "Next page" n times???? Many thanks for help +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | | Batiment 22 | | | Boite Postale 28 CR | | | 23, Rue du Loess | | | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | | FRANCE | | +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13244; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:35:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA01823 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:30:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA01818 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:30:33 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26980; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:27:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:27:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: Jean Schuller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trivial question In-Reply-To: <50jtp5$hv1@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Sep 1996, Jean Schuller wrote: > -- Hi all, > > I have a very long mail and I want to go to the end of it, is there > a way to do it without typing "Next page" n times???? > > Many thanks for help NOT TRIVIAL AT ALL. TRY ^W THEN ^V WILL TAKE YOU TO THE END OF THE DOC. ^W IS THE SEARCH MODE WHEN COMPOSING. WHEN READING IT SHOULD DO TO JUST TYPE W WITHOUT THE CONTROL KEY GOOD LUCK From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19989; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:35:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA09167 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:30:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id JAA09162 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:30:39 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:26:32 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA11848; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:30:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:30:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jean Schuller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trivial question In-Reply-To: <50jtp5$hv1@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" ^W then either ^V (to move to the end) or ^Y (to move to the top). PS. Please could you give a more meaningful Subject line when posting queries in the future? Thanks! Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 4 Sep 1996, Jean Schuller wrote: > -- Hi all, > > I have a very long mail and I want to go to the end of it, is there > a way to do it without typing "Next page" n times???? > > Many thanks for help > > +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | > | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | > | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | > | Batiment 22 | | > | Boite Postale 28 CR | | > | 23, Rue du Loess | | > | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | > | FRANCE | | > +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17222; Wed, 4 Sep 96 10:08:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA02906 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:02:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA02901 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:02:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyLH2-00038WC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vasily Lewis Subject: Re: probs w/ use-only-domain-name Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 02:20:25 -0500 Message-Id: <322D2DB9.2E2@woodsoup.org> References: <322913EC.4AA2@iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vasily Lewis wrote: > > Ahoy, > > Having recently installed pine 3.95, I am having problems w/ the > use-only-domain-name directive. I have defined this in > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed and I have verified its implimentation > by perusing the "Config" part of "Setup" from w/ in the pine program. > use-only-domain-name = Yes is what is displayed. > > The symptoms are as follows: When composing a new messages, and > inserting in a local user name into the "To:" section, pine correctly > expands that to "GECOS" (this appears correct! Not > server.domain.org). However, I fire off the message, and invoke pine > to read it, the mail header reads w/: > To: login@server.domain.org > From: login@server.domain.org > > Agg. Quite frustrating. I have tried also setting the user-domain > directive w/ the same results. Help would be muchly appreciated. This > is a NetBSD system (based on 4.4BSD-lite) and as i said earlier, this > is pine 3.95. I'm no sendmail guru, perhaps sendmail is influencing > this? > > -Vasily Lewis I'm still looking for help on this. Anybody? -Vasily Lewis From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11196; Wed, 4 Sep 96 10:59:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA11600 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:54:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from online.no (pat.online.no [193.212.1.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id KAA11592 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:54:17 -0700 Received: from W (skien312.telepost.no [193.212.103.144]) by online.no (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA05187 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:53:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199609041753.TAA05187@online.no> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 96 17:57:43 -0700 From: Marius Berstad X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I`m boy from Norway i am very intersted in hemp and need to get some information about you guys From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23739; Wed, 4 Sep 96 13:31:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA07812 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:27:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA07807 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:26:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyOSO-00038WC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 13:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:52:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> You can't with Pine 3.91. In Pine 3.95, use something like inbox-path={server.domain/user=foo}INBOX |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Sep 1996, Nirad Sharma wrote: > From: Nirad Sharma > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name > Date: 1 Sep 1996 23:40:32 GMT > Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Queensland > Message-ID: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> > NNTP-Posting-Host: oboe.cs.uq.edu.au > X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #7 (NOV) > > I wish to use pine (3.91, linux) to access a mailbox on a remote host using > imap but the mailbox is for myself under a different username. How do I > appropriately specify this for the inbox-path variable ? > > Nirad. > -- > Nirad Sharma, Computer Science, University of Queensland. 4072. Australia > http://www.cs.uq.edu.au/~nirad > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29729; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:07:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA15098 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:03:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA15093 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:03:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyTkG-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:32:45 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: On 27 Aug 1996, Georg Schwarz wrote: > Can I configure pine to automatically include a '--' =B4line before the > signature (if there is one) short of explicitly including the '--' line > into my signature file?` On 3 Sep 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > Yes, this is what I do. I use .signature for most programs and .sig-- > for pine. Here's a script I use to edit my sig, which I call `editsig': >=20 [omitted for brevity] Another way to add a signature with "-- " prepended is to configure the following script as a sending-filter: =09#!/bin/csh =09cat =09echo "-- " =09cat ~/.signature =09 You will also want to unset the "signature-file" in the setup/Config screen. If you select the compose-send-offers-first-filter feature, it will automatically be added by default when you send each message. It would be trivial to extend this script to add random sigs, etc. Note that this will always add the sig at the bottom of the message (even forwarded messages) regardless of the signature-at-bottom feature setting.=20 --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00458; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:01:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA23881 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:59:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA23875 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:59:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUdf-00038TC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Filter question Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:23:56 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hiya, there've been a few notes about filter passed through here -- in reference to kill files mostly, I'm just wondering what I have to do to get filter to work on the mail I read with pine. My mail is collected via a POPCLIENT script, from my ISP. Anyone who knows how to set filter up (ie setup a rule to delete certain messages), please get in touch :-) Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "May you live in.. Interesting Times." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00415; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:01:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA15791 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:59:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA15786 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:59:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUdO-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:39:54 -0700 Message-Id: References: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Jago wrote: > On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Jago wrote: > > > Go to Setup/Config and see what the value for "composer-wrap-column" > > is. If it's 0 or if it's set wider than what your screen can display, > > there's your problem. A good rule of thumb, IMO, is to set it from 74 to > > 78 since most users operate at a width of 80 columns. Hope this helps! > > I should make a correction. You can set the margin any width you want. > It's just a good idea to not exceed 80 columns. Sorry for the slight > confusion. Best regards..... > Pine does not allow composer-wrap-column to be over 80 characters (unless you re-compile with a higher limit...) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00522; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:05:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA15882 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:04:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA15875 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:04:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUfR-00038TC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mponsfor@uvaix3e1.comp.UVic.CA (Mark Ponsford) Subject: How do you predefine a value for the subject header? Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 14:39:25 -0700 Message-Id: I'm attempting to setup a form letter so that the subject header and main body are predefined. I want it such that all the pine user need do is enter the recipient email address and send it. The main body of text is simply the signature file. No problem there. But in trying to predefine the subject header, no luck. I went into the configuration section of PINE 3.9.3 and tried setting a customized-hdr value for the subject header. When I compose a new message, the assigned value is visible in the subject header. Everything appears to be OK, and then I send the message. Unfortunately, when the recipient reads the email, the subject header info is blank. Any ideas? Mark Ponsford System Tech University of Victoria mponsfor@uvic.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22162; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:06:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA23974 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:04:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA23969 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:04:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUfw-00038UC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Any way to send a distribution list? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:58:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, that Hot Wheels guy wrote: > Is there a way to send someone else a distribution list? > In Pine 3.92 or later, go to the Addressbook screen, move the cursor to the distribution list, and Forward it. If the recipient is using Pine 3.92 or later, they can View the attachment, then TakeAddr to drop the list in their addressbook... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00499; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:07:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA23964 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:03:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA23959 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:03:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUex-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and Solaris 2.5 x86 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:49:12 -0700 Message-Id: References: <322C350C.41E4@soi.city.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <322C350C.41E4@soi.city.ac.uk> On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Chris Marshall wrote: > Has anyone had problems using pine (3.95) on solaris 2.5.1 x86? > > Specifically when using pine to send mail via smtp, my machines > lockup and need to be rebooted. > There is a bug in Solaris 2.5 STREAMS that causes a system hang and which Pine 3.95 can trigger. I don't know if Sun has come out with a fix yet, but the following Pine patch has been proposed by Bo Kullmar . It is reported to work for some people and not for others... *** tcp_unix.c~ Tue Apr 9 21:44:53 1996 --- tcp_unix.c Thu Aug 22 21:00:50 1996 *************** *** 200,206 **** if (i > 0) { /* success, make sure really connected */ fcntl (sock,F_SETFL,flgs); /* restore blocking status */ /* get socket status */ ! while ((i = read (sock,tmp,0)) < 0 && errno == EINTR); if (!i) i = 1; /* make success if the read is OK */ } if (i <= 0) { /* timeout or error? */ --- 200,207 ---- if (i > 0) { /* success, make sure really connected */ fcntl (sock,F_SETFL,flgs); /* restore blocking status */ /* get socket status */ ! /* while ((i = read (sock,tmp,0)) < 0 && errno == EINTR);*/ ! i = 1; if (!i) i = 1; /* make success if the read is OK */ } if (i <= 0) { /* timeout or error? */ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01431; Wed, 4 Sep 96 21:17:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA16710 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:14:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA16705 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:14:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyVoB-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 21:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edmund Lau Subject: Suggestion Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:43:52 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I sometimes have the need to Export my entire addressbook instead of just an entry at a time. I know that I could just copy my .addressbook file and use that, but it isn't formated in any way. I would have to add spaces to all my addresses when I'm in my word processor. Is it possible to have it output similar to how it outputs when I choose the Print command? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01753; Wed, 4 Sep 96 21:46:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA25151 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:44:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA25146 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:44:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyWFD-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 21:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David A. Hollman" Subject: Re: Need help compiling in MkLinux Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:18:47 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50hrda$ojv@guysmiley.blarg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50hrda$ojv@guysmiley.blarg.net> > I have the 3.95 version of Pine to install (hopefully). I have MkLinux for > Power Macintosh (running on OSF-RI MACH 3.0) Linux 1.2.13 running on my > machine. > > The build for pico stops dead with: > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 > make: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 I don't know too much about compilers, but perhaps you want to try a different one? Unless I am mistaken (not unlikely, sorry to say) cc1 runs as part of the cc compiler. Perhaps you could edit the build or makefiles to use gcc instead...? David From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02330; Wed, 4 Sep 96 23:02:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA26027 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:59:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA26022 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:59:23 -0700 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA14045; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:59:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:59:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jean Schuller To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trivial question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Many thanks to all for your fast and efficient help. +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | | Batiment 22 | | | Boite Postale 28 CR | | | 23, Rue du Loess | | | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | | FRANCE | | +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > ^W then either ^V (to move to the end) or ^Y (to move to the top). > > PS. Please could you give a more meaningful Subject line when posting > queries in the future? Thanks! > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On 4 Sep 1996, Jean Schuller wrote: > > > -- Hi all, > > > > I have a very long mail and I want to go to the end of it, is there > > a way to do it without typing "Next page" n times???? > > > > Many thanks for help > > > > +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > > | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | > > | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | > > | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | > > | Batiment 22 | | > > | Boite Postale 28 CR | | > > | 23, Rue du Loess | | > > | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | > > | FRANCE | | > > +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31215; Wed, 4 Sep 96 23:37:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA18260 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:34:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA18255 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:34:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyXzP-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 23:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David A. Hollman" Subject: Re: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:21:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > You can't with Pine 3.91. In Pine 3.95, use something like > > inbox-path={server.domain/user=foo}INBOX Is there a way to also specify the password on that line? ie, inbox-path={mail.server/user=foo/password=bar)INBOX ? Mercy buckets From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 01:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30864; Thu, 5 Sep 96 01:03:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA27454 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:59:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA27449 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:59:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyZIJ-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 00:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hemicuda@computek.net (HemiCuda) Subject: No text in message? Date: 1 Sep 1996 16:41:54 GMT Message-Id: <50ceci$baf@sgi.computek.net> I upgraded my Linux kernel to 2.0.x series, and along with that I got Pine 3.93 running. This was from a fresh Slackware re-install from a perfectly working 1.2.13 kernel. No when I download my email via popclient, my Pine shows a: 1 [ No text in this message ] Or something similar to that, for EACH message that I receive. No other users on my computer have this problem. Incoming mail straight through my sendmail does not do this, and neither does downloading the email to a different computer (via same POP server). Any ideas here? TIA, cc's via email really appreciated.. -- Scott Moseman hemicuda@computek.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05122; Thu, 5 Sep 96 06:04:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA01200 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:57:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id FAA01194 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:57:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA16153; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:57:03 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:57:02 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Holger Lillqvist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Command line option wanted. In-Reply-To: <501rfg$ebe@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Acknowledge-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Delivery-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz Read-Receipt-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28 Aug 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > There exist separate small programs to do that. Check if your system ha= s > the handy frm (and check 'man frm' or 'frm -h' for information on the > login with a line in the .login -file. By the way, frm is from the elm > team... I got it inside of Elm ME+ (MIME Elm). Regardless of that frm does _not_ support RFC 1522 =3D> is unusable for me and many others :-( V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32719; Thu, 5 Sep 96 06:09:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA22738 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:05:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mickey.iafrica.com (mickey.iafrica.com [196.7.0.133]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA22733 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:05:40 -0700 Received: from dugm by mickey.iafrica.com with local (Exim 0.55 #1) id E0uye7h-0008AW-00; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:05:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:05:29 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: Douglas Morgan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: filtering Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi could you explain the mail filtering with procmail ,how to etc . I get a lot of mail and need to filter it. thanks doug. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05968; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:06:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA23370 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:00:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA23365 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:00:14 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id PAA18646; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:59:55 +0200 Message-Id: <199609051357.PAA07056@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id PAA07056; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:57:25 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:48:11 +0200 (MET DST) To: Douglas Morgan Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: filtering In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Douglas Morgan wrote: -> Hi could you explain the mail filtering with procmail ,how -> to etc . I get a lot of mail and need to filter it. -> -> thanks doug. -> You should get the procmail-package from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz, unpack it, and read the docs. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06067; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:14:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA02179 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:10:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA02174 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:10:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyf5w-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Lerperger Subject: Set From: field without ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:50:18 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How to set your "From:" field in pine without having ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM set in the pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-XXX.h file? Postpone your e-mail, edit ~/mail/postponed-msgs to set your "From:" field as desired and load the message back into pine. Will happily use the new "From:" entry. Bug or feature? -Michael From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04522; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:15:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA23525 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA23520 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyf5j-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Need help compiling in MkLinux Date: 5 Sep 1996 04:25:41 GMT Message-Id: References: <50hrda$ojv@guysmiley.blarg.net> On Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:18:47 -0400, David A. Hollman wrote: >> I have the 3.95 version of Pine to install (hopefully). I have MkLinux for >> Power Macintosh (running on OSF-RI MACH 3.0) Linux 1.2.13 running on my >> machine. >> >> The build for pico stops dead with: >> cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 >> make: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 > >I don't know too much about compilers, but perhaps you want to try a >different one? Unless I am mistaken (not unlikely, sorry to say) cc1 runs >as part of the cc compiler. Perhaps you could edit the build or makefiles >to use gcc instead...? No, cc1 does "run" as part of gcc. I would not be surprised if cc was softlinked to gcc under MkLinux as it is under most other Linux distributions. Something that may help with sig11 problems is to look at: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11 Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06293; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:27:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA23724 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:25:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA23719 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:25:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyfMT-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: per-lund@mars.dsv.su.se (Per Lundberg) Subject: Setup - char string Date: 5 Sep 1996 09:42:33 GMT Message-Id: <50m7a9$jug@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does any on know what ISO string to put in charachter string in the setup to get Swedish charachters ? Please e-mail Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04864; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:46:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA02464 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:30:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail1.cern.ch (mail1.cern.ch [137.138.128.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id HAA02459 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:30:09 -0700 Received: from sp062.cern.ch (sp062.cern.ch [137.138.246.162]) by mail1.cern.ch with ESMTP id QAA07179 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:30:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (marta@localhost) by sp062.cern.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA45418 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:30:05 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: sp062.cern.ch: marta owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:30:03 +0200 (METDST) From: Marta Felcini X-Sender: marta@sp062 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: mailing a text file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. Best regards, Marta Felcini From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27334; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:11:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA03225 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:05:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA03214 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:05:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyfyg-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:48:15 +0200 Message-Id: References: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, David A. Hollman wrote: > > inbox-path={server.domain/user=foo}INBOX > > Is there a way to also specify the password on that line? ie, > inbox-path={mail.server/user=foo/password=bar)INBOX ? Good Lord, why would you want to do this? You might as well go ahead and write your password on a post-it note and leave it on your monitor. Or better, on a public terminal somewhere (don't forget your account name and machine name too). The only use I could see for this (and I have wanted it for this reason) is for anonymous IMAP login, specified as /user=anonymous and you enter your e-mail address as password. Otherwise, anyone could read your password on the other system from your pinerc file. You don't want that, do you? Barry Bouwsma From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08020; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:25:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA24679 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:21:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id IAA24674 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:21:28 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:17:08 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA26706; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:21:10 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:21:10 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Marta Felcini Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing a text file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" When you're composing your message/reply and have the cursor in the Message Text area, try glancing at the command menu at the bottom of the screen. ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^O Postpone ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^C Cancel ^J Justify ^Z Alt Edit ^V Next Pg ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, > is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) > while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the > message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? > Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use > and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. > Best regards, > Marta Felcini > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26235; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:49:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA04130 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:45:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id IAA04121 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:45:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA17619; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:44:29 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:44:28 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Leanne McKay Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Obvious return address problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Acknowledge-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Delivery-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Leanne McKay wrote: > I have appreciated ;-) this feature since old version 3.05, which > I've just swapped for 3.91. In my recently saved messages, I > still get 'To:..' but my older messages suddenly just showed=20 > my name as the sender. > Upon investigating, I found out that pine 3.91 is putting=20 > straight in the 'From:' of recent messages, > but the earlier version used the $NAME environment variable > which had 'L.McKay', so 'From:' had (an > alias happily recognised on my system for returns). > Pine now thinks I am . > Consequently, Pine does not know I wrote the old messages. I do not know 3.05 but I suppose thi sfeature was removed due to a risc that some users might fake their From: addresses. If you upgrade to 3.95 (a few months old version -- the newest one) than you can set alternative addresses you want to be recognized by pine as yours. Another reason for changing to the new version is the ability to decode RFC 1522's encoding thus seeing my name in From: properly :-) Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08602; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:49:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA25303 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:45:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA25297 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:45:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uygU8-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ucgadkw@ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Subject: Nice feature! (3.95) Message-Id: <1996Sep5.132514.58468@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:25:14 GMT I run Pine under unix on a remote system, to which I am connected by telnet. I have just discovered that if I hit Y, Pine will print the current message (or index), on my local printer. That's wonderful! Thank you. I would run Pine locally too, on my OS/2 system, but our firewall won't transmit IMAP packets, only ftp and telnet. :-( The printing feature above makes this difficulty much more livable-with. I am also using the ability to invoke Kermit for down/up loading of files and messages, which is also great. I haven't worked out how to get Kermit to use APC calls when invoked by Pine: has anyone? Dominik -- Best wishes, Dominik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09134; Thu, 5 Sep 96 09:07:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA04502 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:00:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA04497 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:00:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uygmy-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christophe Harbine Subject: Slow connection to IMAP server ? Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:33:25 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, We are running unix pine 3.95 as imap client on both sunOS 4.1.3 and Solaris 2.5. Our IMAP server is a P133 under FreeBSD. We are facing the following problem : We have tried the 2 following syntaxes in .pinerc on client side : 1. inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox 2. inbox-path={[192.45.233.7]/user=chris}inbox On client side under SunOS, with the first syntax, we need about 30 seconds until we get the password prompt ( message 'Opening "INBOX"' ). With the second syntax, it's very quick ( 1 second or 2 ). On client side under Solaris, opening the mailbox is very slow ( about 30 seconds ) with both syntaxes in .pinerc !... Certainly a problem with name resolving on client and/or server side ?... Has anyone already faced this problem ? Any idea ?... Thanks for your help. Amicalement, /\ Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique / \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France /\ \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 \ \ / / \/\ --------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11183; Thu, 5 Sep 96 10:16:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA06556 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:11:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA06551 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:11:28 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA26316 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:11:26 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:11:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: slow pine, solved!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to the unknown with his slow imap connections (mail lost in excitement...). I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... ciao bboett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14321; Thu, 5 Sep 96 12:24:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA01134 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:20:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA01129 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:20:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyjwW-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 12:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Posert <73174.304@CompuServe.COM> Subject: No Message Text Available in News Date: 5 Sep 1996 18:57:41 GMT Message-Id: <50n7r5$gh0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> I'm trying to read the Microsoft newsgroups from a UNIX box where I have little disk space and less permissions. Pine seemed like the easy way to do this. I downloaded the HPUX binary for pine (not IMAPD or pico yet), and configured pine to use msnews.microsoft.com for a nntp server per http://www.washington.edu/pine/secrets.html I could subscribe to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.scripting, but all of the articles show "No Message Text Available." Any ideas? Thanks, Bob -- bposert@filenet.com My words are my own From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10358; Thu, 5 Sep 96 12:28:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA10269 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:25:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA10264 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:25:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyk1b-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 12:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Kelleher Subject: Re: Howto customize reply quote... AGAIN! Date: 30 Aug 1996 13:50:23 GMT Message-Id: <506riv$7i@public.concorde.com> References: <504m9d$sv8@angel.cs.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tulpule@cs.unc.edu (Narendra Tulpule) wrote: > > >Hi all PINE gurus (and some half-baked guru-wannabes) > Sometime back, I had posted a query, as follows: >While replying, PINE starts the message with > On wrote: >Please tell me if and how I can customize this line. >Someone told me to look into Setup-Config (as if!) and some others posted >followups saying they didn't find it. > Now will a real guru come forward and show me the path to Nirvana? >- Narendra. >-- You can't change this without hacking the pine source code. It's in a file called reply.c. Unless you're willing to do that, there isn't any way to change the message. Kevin Kelleher From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15661; Thu, 5 Sep 96 13:41:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA03126 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:35:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA03121 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:35:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyl8C-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 13:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Coolens Hugo Subject: Configure news collections Date: 5 Sep 1996 13:52:04 GMT Message-Id: <50mlu4$hl4@vivaldi.belnet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to configure my pine news collections setup, however the syntax I have to use is a mystery to me. I already figured out that the following works: *{news.belnet.be/nntp}[sci.electronics.design} But I want to have other groups in the same collection, e.g. comp.sys.atari.st How should I do this? regards, Hugo Coolens coolens@kiho.be From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18581; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:04:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA14257 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:01:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA14252 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:01:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uymP3-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 14:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: No Message Text Available in News Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:48:00 +0200 Message-Id: References: <50n7r5$gh0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50n7r5$gh0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> On 5 Sep 1996, Bob Posert wrote: > I'm trying to read the Microsoft newsgroups [...] > configured pine to use > msnews.microsoft.com > for a nntp server per > http://www.washington.edu/pine/secrets.html > I could subscribe to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.scripting, > but all of the articles show "No Message Text Available." Microsoft's news server is broken and doesn't give responses needed by Pine. This is their own server software, and it doesn't work the way that several newsreaders want it to. Give up. It's real broke. Point to any one of the real news servers with the M$ newsgroups on them. That will work to read the groups with Pine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18710; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:33:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA05743 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:31:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA05736 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:31:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uymv5-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kathy@fred.net (Kathy Bilton) Subject: Sometimes + does not indicate personal mail Date: 5 Sep 1996 16:47:03 GMT Message-Id: <50n067$2nq@news.fred.net> I am on one mailing list which is using version 6.0 of ListProcessor software - and all the messages from that list show up in my mailbox with a + beside them which is supposed to indicate a personal message. Is this a bug of this list software? Or is this a Pine problem? --Kathy Bilton http://www.fred.net/kathy/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19262; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:34:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA14953 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:31:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA14948 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:31:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uymv7-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: merlin@eagle.wbm.ca (Ernie Werezak) Subject: Offline reader for PINE? Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 19:11:08 GMT Message-Id: <50n5nh$71f@supra.wbm.ca> Does anyoen know if there is ANY offline readers for PINE. I am connecting to PINE with a text base program, and I get lost of messages, but no time to answer them all, I was wondering if there was an offline reader for PINE. If you know of any information, please email me at merlin@eagle.wbm.ca Thanks. Ernie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19363; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:59:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA06254 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:56:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA06249 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:56:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uynJk-00038XC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morse@his.com (Michael Morse) Subject: Re: Off line reader Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:31:16 GMT Message-Id: <322f4668.825586@news.his.com> References: >I have been asked "is there an off line reader which would work with >Pine". My answer was, no I don't think so - but I thought I should ask all >you "out there" in case I'm wrong. We are running Pine 3.95 under SCO 4.2 >... Clients generally use telix or procomm for terminal emulation. I'm not sure what you mean by an off-line reader, and I've never tried it, but you might want to look at PC-PINE. You'll need an IMAP server. --Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20027; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:08:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA15725 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:06:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA15720 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:06:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uynSR-00038UC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: "follow-up to" line: how? Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:27:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to get a follow-up to line among the headers on messages I want to post (seldom, I hope) to a group whose robomoderator requires that, short of reconfiguring my default headers and having the fool thing hanging up there in the way every time I start a message? R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19214; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:43:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA07273 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:40:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail1.cern.ch (mail1.cern.ch [137.138.128.19]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA07268 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:40:03 -0700 Received: from sp058.cern.ch (sp058.cern.ch [137.138.128.251]) by mail1.cern.ch with ESMTP id BAA09845 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6); Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:40:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (marta@localhost) by sp058.cern.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA70394; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:40:01 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: sp058.cern.ch: marta owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:40:01 +0200 (METDST) From: Marta Felcini X-Sender: marta@sp058 To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Marta Felcini , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing a text file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry again... I tried your suggestion but this is what I get at the bottom of the page while composing a message: ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Rich Hdr ^Y PrvPg/Top ^K Cut Line ^O Postpone ^C Cancel ^D Del Char ^J Attach ^V NxtPg/End ^U UnDel Line^T To AddrBk so none of the proposed commands can be used for including a file. Do you understand while my ctrl R doesn't correspond to read file? On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > When you're composing your message/reply and have the cursor in the > Message Text area, try glancing at the command menu at the bottom of the > screen. > > ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^O Postpone > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^C Cancel ^J Justify ^Z Alt Edit ^V Next Pg ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > > > Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, > > is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) > > while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the > > message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? > > Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use > > and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. > > Best regards, > > Marta Felcini > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10967; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:49:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA07422 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:46:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA07417 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:46:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyo5n-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tulpule@cs.unc.edu (Narendra Tulpule) Subject: Saving messages from user1 into folder user2 Date: 5 Sep 1996 10:47:23 -0400 Message-Id: <50mp5r$as0@hydra.cs.unc.edu> Hi, I'd like to store messages from user1@domain1.ext1 into a folder user2 by default. How can I do it? (All other incoming message saves should be unaffected. I am using PINE-3.91. Any help/&help appreciated! - Naren. -- ================================================================ Naren / email:tulpule@cs.unc.edu / 919-962-1937(office)/ SN039. http://www.cs.unc.edu/~tulpule talk:tulpule@boulanger.cs.unc.edu ================================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09963; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:00:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA16825 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:57:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA16817 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:56:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyoDS-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ayorinks@monmouth.com (Alan Yorinks) Subject: Porting Problem -Fcc Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 15:32:44 GMT Message-Id: <50mrih$pck@news.monmouth.com> I am porting Pine to the QNX operating system. I am able to send a message if I don't have the Fcc folder configured (I set it as empty). If I specify an Fcc folder, I get the following behavior. The first, the folder is created and the message is sent without a problem. The next time (and all subsequent messages) when I select Send for the message, I am told that the Fcc folder doesn't exist - but it really does. If I ask the system to create the folder, it tells me that the folder already exists - which is true. Does anyone have any ideas as to why in open_fcc() the program thinks that the Fcc folder does not exist. Thanks, Alan Yorinks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20786; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:10:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA17161 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:06:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA17153 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:06:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyoPz-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "DTC Supernet Retail" Subject: Email Forwarding Date: 5 Sep 1996 15:58:55 GMT Message-Id: <01bb9b40$84507c20$03dcf2ce@n3.te.dtc.net> Email & domain mail forwarding free at www.xmail.com -- DTC Towne East Square - upper level outside of Sears We carry internet related books, and software. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21773; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:38:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA17717 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:34:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from helios.acomp.usf.edu (helios.acomp.usf.edu [131.247.100.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA17712 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:34:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (kwaldsch@localhost) by helios.acomp.usf.edu (8.7.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA17922 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:35:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kirsten Waldschmidt (NDS)" X-Sender: kwaldsch@helios To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: receiving mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern: I am a new pine user and still need some practice with the surfing! Please send me a quick "hello" so that I know this really works. I'm at kwaldsch@helios.acomp.usf.edu Please use my nickname "THUMPER" in your brief message. This is greatly appreciated. Thanks a million!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21788; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:52:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA17889 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:41:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA17884 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:41:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyoxK-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gareth Boden Subject: Re: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: 05 Sep 1996 16:40:04 +0100 Message-Id: References: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= writes: > > Is there a way to also specify the password on that line? ie, > > inbox-path={mail.server/user=foo/password=bar)INBOX ? > > The only use I could see for this (and I have wanted it for this > reason) is for anonymous IMAP login, specified as /user=anonymous and you > enter your e-mail address as password. Otherwise, anyone could read your > password on the other system from your pinerc file. You don't want that, > do you? Surely you could deny read access to the file for other users? Or are we talking about a shared DOS machine here? Gareth -- __ /| Gareth Boden (my opinions are my own) \'o.O' .. APM Ltd, Poseidon House, Castle Park, CAMBRIDGE, England, UK. =(___)= .... gdb@ansa.co.uk | http://squeak.fitz.cam.ac.uk/~gdb20/ U ...... What if there were no hypothetical questions? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21789; Thu, 5 Sep 96 18:02:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA08813 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:58:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from helios.acomp.usf.edu (helios.acomp.usf.edu [131.247.100.17]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA08808 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:57:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (kwaldsch@localhost) by helios.acomp.usf.edu (8.7.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA18309 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:59:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kirsten Waldschmidt (NDS)" X-Sender: kwaldsch@helios Reply-To: "Kirsten Waldschmidt (NDS)" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: receiving e-mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is THUMPER at kwaldsch@helios.acomp.usf.edu and I was just wondering if you received my first message yet? Please respond again with a quick "hello". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22492; Thu, 5 Sep 96 18:35:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA09365 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA09360 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:31:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uypiR-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 18:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 5 Sep 1996 18:33:31 GMT Message-Id: <50n6dr$aus@samba.rahul.net> References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> In "Alan J. Flavell" writes: >I had also "heard" if before, but when I challenged the informant for >chapter and verse, they merely told me they "knew" that this was the >rule. So I was, and apparently we all still are, unaware of who makes >this rule and where it is documented. Look in the B-news and C-news source code. >Quite so. My only real reason for following-up is in an attempt >to provoke someone into "naming their source". Literally. :-) -- Rahul Dhesi == "...Mark Crispin has the good sense to not blather away in newsgroups..." -- Wayne Hathaway From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22063; Thu, 5 Sep 96 19:41:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA19666 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:35:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA19647 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:34:56 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:39:27 +0800 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:31:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Chris Womack Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Replying In-Reply-To: <322C37C3.12BE@norvell.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Chris Womack wrote: > > > Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before > > > the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor > > > to appear after the quoted text? > > > > On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > > > > > RTFM or ? > > I've tried this to no avail...it DOESN'T work! As for DearOldDad, I > wonder > if he has anything better to do than reply to everyone with RTFM? > > Thanks for explaining the technique to me, but I already tried these > options. I believe most people missed your question. You want your "cursor" to be placed at a specific point. That option does not exist. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23192; Thu, 5 Sep 96 20:00:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA19961 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:56:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA19956 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:56:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyr2f-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 19:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@oseda.missouri.edu (Steve Meyer) Subject: 3.95 on AIX 414 Date: 5 Sep 1996 21:45:04 GMT Message-Id: <50nhl0$1i8q@news.missouri.edu> Hello: We put pine 3.95 up on our AIX 4.1.4 box and it intermittently hangs when doing either a compose or a reply. Backing off to 3.91 still works great, except for posting a bug report to cac washington, whose robot said they wouldn't talk to us 'til we installed 3.95, which hangs when we compose. Uh-oh, I'm circular... Anyone else 'hanging' with 3.95 and AIX 4.1.4? Working? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven T. Meyer /\ Traction /\ University of Missouri Outreach and Extension /\ Avant! /\ <<<<<<<<<<<<< http://www.oseda.missouri.edu/~steve/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25001; Thu, 5 Sep 96 22:47:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA12701 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:42:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA12696 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:42:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uytdt-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 22:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: UNIX PINE3.95, AIX4.1.x freeze up ... Date: 5 Sep 1996 20:06:19 -0600 Message-Id: <50o0ur$3uvc@mirac.unm.edu> AIX4.1.4 UNIX PINE3.95 Greetings .... We have been trying to resolve this since Late July ... We receive calls from our clients in various situations, that their PINE 3.95 session hangs; some indefinitely frozen, and some intermittently get back to normal situation by doing a Cntrl-Z and foregorunding the process .... We have turned on debugging and turned SYSV style signaling flags on and we tried many things but we seem to be unable to find out why PINE3.95 freeze up on many of our clients. I e-mailed pine-info and pine-debug several times since August and we have not heard from them yet. If you're a site with non-problematic usage of UNIX PINE 3.95 under AIX4.1.4, maybe we can compare your pre-compile config file with those of ours and see something we have not been able to see up to this point ... Thanks, Farid hamjavar@unm.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25039; Thu, 5 Sep 96 23:15:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA22320 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:12:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA22315 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:11:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyu4A-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 23:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: PattyB Subject: Download from UNIX Shell to PC Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:28:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am currently using PINE 3.95 thru a UNIX Shell and need help finding the protocol for downloading from Folders to my PC via Zmodem transfer. Using TELIX v3.21. For some reason, I am unable to locate the doc file for my TELIX comm program. Help??? Thanks. Patty B... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25367; Thu, 5 Sep 96 23:48:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA13530 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:44:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA13525 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:44:37 -0700 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA22549; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:44:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:44:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jean Schuller To: Marta Felcini Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing a text file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, When you are in "Compose" mode, you only have to use ^R to read an external file and insert it. Good luck with PINE. +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | | Batiment 22 | | | Boite Postale 28 CR | | | 23, Rue du Loess | | | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | | FRANCE | | +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, > is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) > while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the > message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? > Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use > and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. > Best regards, > Marta Felcini > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01473; Fri, 6 Sep 96 00:42:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA23480 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:38:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA23475 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:38:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyvQd-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 00:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@pain.inthe.butt (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine Date: 6 Sep 1996 04:51:04 GMT Message-Id: References: On Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:47:02 -0400, Fred Heitkamp wrote: >On 20 Aug 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: >> >> * * * snip * * * >> >> > >> > Can Pine be used with a POP server? >> > >> > No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support >> > POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail >> > server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it >> > is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either >> > IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. >> > > >I received a suggestion to try: >incoming-folders={pop3host.domain/pop3}MailBox_Name >and it didn't work. >First there is no incoming-folders option in the configuration that I saw. >Second, What do you do for a password, required for the pop mailbox? >Should pine prompt for a password? I am assuming that pine 3.91 on >Linux really can do POP. > >Fred Heitkamp > I'm running 3.90 - I do have an incoming-folders options, but it's blank. I *think* it's only useful if your mail comes in multiple folders on the POP server, or if you run procmail, or some such. I do, however, have the following in my .pinerc - inbox-path={pop.calweb.com}/var/spool/mail/sbuntin Pine prompts me for username and password upon connection to the server - It defaults to sbuntin, so I hit return, then have to manually enter the password. Pine does delete msgs from the inbox, as well. Scott From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26496; Fri, 6 Sep 96 01:57:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA24375 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:50:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA24370 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:49:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA23820 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:49:33 +0200 (METDST) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:49:33 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Howto customize reply quote... AGAIN! In-Reply-To: <506riv$7i@public.concorde.com> Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30 Aug 1996, Kevin Kelleher wrote: > >While replying, PINE starts the message with > > On wrote: > >Please tell me if and how I can customize this line. > You can't change this without hacking the pine source code. > It's in a file called reply.c. Unless you're willing to do > that, there isn't any way to change the message. There is no direct option. But if you use 3.92-3.95, you can use sending-filter feature (mentioned here a week ago while talking about way of auto-adding ``-- '' separator by David L. Miller) to replace this string by a different one by a script (using awk or so). Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27372; Fri, 6 Sep 96 03:55:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA25587 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:50:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA25582 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:50:36 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:46:19 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA23603; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:50:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:50:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: R R Neuswanger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "follow-up to" line: how? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" You can add your own custom headers to the set provided as standard by Pine in its Setup Configuration screen.... At the Main Menu type "S" (Setup) then "C" (Configuration). Now look through the screen for a variable called "customized-hdrs". If you put your cursor on this and type "?" it will show you the online help for the item. Basically you can use this variable to add a list of additional (custom) headers with (optionally) default values for each. When you are composing a message they will not appear by default; to see/use them put your cursor on a header line and type ^R (Rich Header) to get the full list of headers available to you. (Note that if you do set up a default value for a custom header then it will be set and used even if you don't type ^R -- this is just to let you see them or change their value.) If you want a particualr header to be visible in the list you see when you compose a message (ie, without having to use ^R) you can do this in the Setup Configuration screen too. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, R R Neuswanger wrote: > Is there a way to get a follow-up to line among > the headers on messages I want to post (seldom, I hope) > to a group whose robomoderator requires that, short of > reconfiguring my default headers and having the fool > thing hanging up there in the way every time I start a > message? > > > R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life > rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of > 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism > I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27478; Fri, 6 Sep 96 04:05:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA25644 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:58:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA25639 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:58:44 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:54:35 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA24747; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:58:40 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:58:40 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Marta Felcini Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing a text file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Pine uses "context sensitive menus" to offer commands relevant to the thing you are currently trying to do/modify. When composing a message ^R only means "Read File" when your cursor is position in the Message Text area (the large area into which you type the text of your message). If your cursor is on any of the header fields (eg, "To:", "Cc:", "Subject:", etc) then it is pretty meaningless to read the contents of a file into that field. So instead ^R is changed to mean "Rich Headers"; this shows you all the availabvle headers in place of the four you are shown by default. If you put the cursor somewhere in the Message Text area you will see the command menu now offers you the "^R Read File" option. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > > Sorry again... I tried your suggestion but this is what I get > at the bottom of the page while composing a message: > > ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Rich Hdr ^Y PrvPg/Top ^K Cut Line ^O > Postpone > ^C Cancel ^D Del Char ^J Attach ^V NxtPg/End ^U UnDel Line^T To > AddrBk > > so none of the proposed commands can be used for including a file. > Do you understand while my ctrl R doesn't correspond to read file? > > > > > On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > When you're composing your message/reply and have the cursor in the > > Message Text area, try glancing at the command menu at the bottom of the > > screen. > > > > ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^O Postpone > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > ^C Cancel ^J Justify ^Z Alt Edit ^V Next Pg ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Mike Brudenell > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > > > On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > > > > > Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, > > > is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) > > > while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the > > > message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? > > > Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use > > > and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. > > > Best regards, > > > Marta Felcini > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23410; Fri, 6 Sep 96 04:33:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA26249 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:28:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA26219 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:27:49 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:23:40 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA28332; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:27:41 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:27:41 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Christophe Harbine , Bruno Boettcher Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: several messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The following may explain the effect you are seeing, and give you a way of improving connection speed without having to resort to the time-bomb of using numeric IP addresses... When Pine is configured to use IMAP for mail access it can open the connection in one of two ways: preauthenticated and unauthenticated. The former uses a clever technique to avoid you having to enter your username and password, but requires a small amount of configuration by the System Manager. Obviously the preauthenticated method is desirable to users, and so is tried first by Pine. If it fails (after a number of seconds) Pine then reverts to opening an unauthenticated connection and then prompting you to type in the authentication information. The delay you are experiencing could well be due to Pine attempting the preauthenticated connection, failing after timing out, and then switching to the other sort. (Although why changing the machine name to a numeric IP address enclosed in square brackets changes the behaviour I confess I don't know.) If this is indeed your problem then there you have two choices: persuade your System Manager to get preauthenticated connections working (which would save you having to type in your username and password each time); or tell Pine not to try the preauthenticated connection (which you know will always fail) and just open an unauthenticated connection straightaway. To allow preauthenticated connections the System Manager must, on the IMAP server computer, create a link so that "/etc/rimapd" links to the real imapd program. The next thing is for users to be able to link to the IMAP computer using the "rsh" command. This can be done by the System Manager for everyone by creating a "hosts.equiv" file, or by each user creating a ".rhosts" file on the IMAP computer. Seek advice before doing either of these, because if you get it wrong it can open up your username/system to others. The other alternative -- to bypass the attempt at opening a preauthenticated connection -- is achieved very simply by slightly altering the connection information in your Pine Setup Configuration screen. In the example given in the original message change inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox to inbox-path={imap.domain.fr:143/user=chris}inbox By supplying the IMAP port number explicitly (rather than leaving it to the default) you are telling Pine that you ALWAYS want it to open a connection to the (unauthenticated) IMAP service there. It stops Pine first trying the preauthenticated method. This should substantially increase connection speed for you whilst retaining the meaningful textual IP names. However you will still have to type in your username and password. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Christophe Harbine wrote: > > Hello, > > We are running unix pine 3.95 as imap client on both sunOS 4.1.3 > and Solaris 2.5. Our IMAP server is a P133 under FreeBSD. We are facing > the following problem : > > We have tried the 2 following syntaxes in .pinerc on client side : > > 1. inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox > > 2. inbox-path={[192.45.233.7]/user=chris}inbox > > > On client side under SunOS, with the first syntax, we need about > 30 seconds until we get the password prompt ( message 'Opening "INBOX"' ). > With the second syntax, it's very quick ( 1 second or 2 ). > > On client side under Solaris, opening the mailbox is very slow ( > about 30 seconds ) with both syntaxes in .pinerc !... > > Certainly a problem with name resolving on client and/or server > side ?... Has anyone already faced this problem ? Any idea ?... > > Thanks for your help. > > Amicalement, /\ > Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul > /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique > / \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France > /\ \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 > \ \ / / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > Thanks to the unknown with his slow imap connections (mail lost in > excitement...). > > I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with > internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... > > ciao > bboett > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27829; Fri, 6 Sep 96 04:46:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA26384 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:37:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA26379 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:37:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyzAz-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 04:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Leanne McKay Subject: Re: mailing a text file Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:01:15 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi, Just move the cursor down until you are in the body of the message (under ----- Message Text -----) and the commands at the bottom of the screen will change. Mine now show: ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^O Postpone ^C Cancel ^J Justify ^W Where is ^V Next Pg ^U UnCut Text ^T To Spell I recommend spending some time nosing around the Pine 'help' if you're new, 'cos you'll find out some more of what Pine can do. Hope this helps. Leanne. On 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > Sorry again... I tried your suggestion but this is what I get > at the bottom of the page while composing a message: > > ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Rich Hdr ^Y PrvPg/Top ^K Cut Line ^O > Postpone > ^C Cancel ^D Del Char ^J Attach ^V NxtPg/End ^U UnDel Line^T To > AddrBk > > so none of the proposed commands can be used for including a file. > Do you understand while my ctrl R doesn't correspond to read file? ************************************************************** _________________ Leanne McKay T T T T T T T T lmckay@nla.gov.au I I I I I I I I National Library of Australia I I I I I I I I Phone: +61 6 262 1479 T T T T T T T T Fax: +61 6 273 3648 =================== ********************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28296; Fri, 6 Sep 96 06:03:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA17862 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 05:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA17857 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 05:57:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz0TR-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 05:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyhsu@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USER) Subject: HELP: ownership of .pinerc changed Date: 2 Sep 1996 01:36:54 GMT Message-Id: <50ddnm$nvd@voyager.iii.org.tw> Every month my .pinerc ownership is changed to root, not other users on the same system. Any ideas what caused this to happen? Thanks. Jun-ming Chen jmchen@whph.enlighting.com.tw From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28424; Fri, 6 Sep 96 06:12:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA27392 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:05:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-gw.t-mi.com (mail-gw.t-mi.com [162.11.243.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA27387 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:05:24 -0700 Received: from t-mi.com (162.11.100.51) by mail-gw.t-mi.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.4) with SMTP id ; Fri, 06 Sep 1996 13:54:48 +0100 Received: from sparc14 by t-mi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA02904; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:03:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:03:19 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford X-Sender: clifford@sparc14 To: Christophe Harbine Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Slow connection to IMAP server ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Christophe I had this problem with 3.91 and I suspect the problem is with the rsh responses from server. If so it can can be dealt with quite easily assuming 3.95 works the same way. (I no longer have an IMAP server to check) Pine tries to make an rsh connection first and waits till thats rejected before trying IMAP. In some configurations this can be very slow. To make pine go straight to imap include the port number a la inbox-path={imap.domain.fr:143/user=chris}inbox The difference between the two boxes is that your SunOS box is having difficulties resolving the IP address and you would need to look at your NIS/NIS+ configuration to deal with that. > We are running unix pine 3.95 as imap client on both sunOS 4.1.3 > and Solaris 2.5. Our IMAP server is a P133 under FreeBSD. We are facing > the following problem : > > We have tried the 2 following syntaxes in .pinerc on client side : > > 1. inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox > > 2. inbox-path={[192.45.233.7]/user=chris}inbox > > > On client side under SunOS, with the first syntax, we need about > 30 seconds until we get the password prompt ( message 'Opening "INBOX"' ). > With the second syntax, it's very quick ( 1 second or 2 ). > > On client side under Solaris, opening the mailbox is very slow ( > about 30 seconds ) with both syntaxes in .pinerc !... > > Certainly a problem with name resolving on client and/or server > side ?... Has anyone already faced this problem ? Any idea ?... > > Thanks for your help. > > Amicalement, /\ > Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul > /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique > / \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France > /\ \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 > \ \ / / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > > Clifford Wesley Fulford _________________________________________________________________________ CBF-International | clifford@t-mi.com | 044 (0)181-986-5239 17 Sewdley Street | clifford@cix.compulink.co.uk | 044 (0)171-577-2741 Lea Bridge, E5-AX. | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12257; Fri, 6 Sep 96 07:23:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA28347 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:17:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov (rs8.loc.gov [140.147.248.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA28342 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:17:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (rrne@localhost) by rs8.loc.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA132978; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:17:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:17:15 -0400 (EDT) From: R R Neuswanger Reply-To: R R Neuswanger To: to post Pine Cc: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: "follow-up to" line: how? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Aha! (Mike Brudenell explained how to modify the customized-headers line, as opposed to the default-headers line, which was all I'd spotted). My customized-headers line says ; I bet that means my gurus have decided I'm not to be trusted with tweaking them -- I wonder why .... R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29415; Fri, 6 Sep 96 07:38:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA28582 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:33:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA28577 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:33:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23392; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:29:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:29:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: USENET NEWSGROUP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help...please. Does anyone know of a host for the newsgroup alt.food.low-fat I need to access this using IMAP or an NNTP server that does not need a special account or password as the ISP that my company is on does not carry any newsgroups. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREA D. GONZALES adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29492; Fri, 6 Sep 96 07:43:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA28667 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:38:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA28662 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:38:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA112698; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:34:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:34:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: No Message Text Available in News In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Microsoft's news server is broken and doesn't give responses needed by > Pine. This is their own server software, and it doesn't work the way > that several newsreaders want it to. Give up. It's real broke. Point > to any one of the real news servers with the M$ newsgroups on them. > That will work to read the groups with Pine So what is a REAL server? I have yet to find one! If you know of any please help me, as I had the same problem. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREA D. GONZALES adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29545; Fri, 6 Sep 96 08:20:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA19769 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:13:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu (watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA19764 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:13:23 -0700 Received: (from brennan@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA07379; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 96 11:12:29 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: Andrea Gonzales Cc: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: No Message Text Available in News In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:34:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: > > > Microsoft's news server is broken and doesn't give responses needed by > > Pine. This is their own server software, and it doesn't work the way > > that several newsreaders want it to. Give up. It's real broke. Point > > to any one of the real news servers with the M$ newsgroups on them. > > That will work to read the groups with Pine > > So what is a REAL server? I have yet to find one! If you know of any > please help me, as I had the same problem. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ANDREA D. GONZALES > adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com > > > The microsoft* newsgroups are not officially shared with any other site, and the report above is correct, it runs nonstandard server software, or one could say therefore not usenet news software. For some reason Microsoft likes it this way. Joseph Brennan Postmaster Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York postmaster@columbia.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31955; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:07:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA20885 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:01:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA20880 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:01:35 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp3.UU.NET [192.48.96.34]) id QQbgaa11622; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:01:32 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA842024672 Fri, 06 Sep 96 08:44:32 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 96 08:44:32 Message-Id: <9608068420.AA842024672@mailya.yakima.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: USENET NEWSGROUP Andrea, try news.alterdial.uu.net. This seems to be one of the most complete news servers I have found. - Michael ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: USENET NEWSGROUP Author: Andrea Gonzales at INTERNET Date: 9/6/96 7:43 AM Help...please. Does anyone know of a host for the newsgroup alt.food.low-fat I need to access this using IMAP or an NNTP server that does not need a special account or password as the ISP that my company is on does not carry any newsgroups. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREA D. GONZALES adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31671; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:12:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA00791 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:08:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA00786 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:08:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz3OX-00038TC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: AL Subject: PINE & PICO Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:50:36 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can insert an ASCII file using pico with no problem. But how do I insert a binary file? -al. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31313; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:22:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA21437 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:18:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA21432 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:18:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz3Xc-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cory Tsang Subject: PC-Pine and Samba Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:02:54 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm curious if I have SAMBA sharing out mail folders from a Unix box, would PC-Pine be able to read that inbox directly without having to deal with IMAP or POP? Cory please email responses. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31961; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:26:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA21559 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:23:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA21554 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:22:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25250; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:19:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:19:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: msw@mailya.yakima.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: USENET NEWSGROUP In-Reply-To: <9608068420.AA842024672@mailya.yakima.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 1996 msw@mailya.yakima.com wrote: > > Andrea, try news.alterdial.uu.net. This seems to be one of the most > complete news servers I have found. > > - Michael Thanks...I did but I get a message "400 host not recognized in the autorization file. Perhaps my santax is wrong nntp = news.alterdial.uu.net news folder = *{news.alterdial.uu.net/nntp}[] Is that right? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00155; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:51:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA01778 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:43:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA01773 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:43:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz3xr-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwe@unixfe.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood) Subject: Re: UNIX PINE3.95, AIX4.1.x freeze up ... Date: 6 Sep 1996 16:03:26 GMT Message-Id: <50pi0e$5e4@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> References: <50o0ur$3uvc@mirac.unm.edu> Farid Hamjavar (hamjavar@unm.edu) wrote: : AIX4.1.4 : UNIX PINE3.95 : Greetings .... : We have been trying to resolve this since Late July ... : We receive calls from our clients in various situations, : that their PINE 3.95 session hangs; some indefinitely frozen, : and some intermittently get back to normal situation by doing a : Cntrl-Z and foregorunding the process .... We have turned on : debugging and turned SYSV style signaling flags : on and we tried many things but we seem to be unable : to find out why PINE3.95 freeze up on many of our clients. : I e-mailed pine-info and pine-debug several times : since August and we have not heard from them yet. : If you're a site with non-problematic usage of UNIX : PINE 3.95 under AIX4.1.4, maybe we can compare your pre-compile : config file with those of ours and see something we have not : been able to see up to this point ... For what it's worth, I also see this problem with PINE 3.95 running on AIX 4.1.3. I did not build the pine, but took the pre-compiled version. Apart from this problem, it works fine. I also sent in a fault report to the bug reporting e-mail address, some time in August. Actually sometimes I think if I just waited a bit longer, my session would come back, so more recently, if I seem to get the problem I just am more patient, and (so far) it usually does come back. (been doing that for about a week). Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27959; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:53:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA01893 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:47:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA01887 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:47:49 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21084; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09386; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA02230; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:46:24 EDT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:46:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: AL Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & PICO In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, AL wrote: > > I can insert an ASCII file using pico with no problem. > > But how do I insert a binary file? > > -al. > You don't. You need to attach a binary file using Ctrl-J in the header so that the binary file can be encoded (converted to ascii characters) for transmission as part of a mail message. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01069; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:09:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA22655 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:01:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA22641 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:01:40 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp2.UU.NET [192.48.96.33]) id QQbgae26150; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:01:38 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA842029040 Fri, 06 Sep 96 09:57:20 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 96 09:57:20 Message-Id: <9608068420.AA842029040@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Re[2]: USENET NEWSGROUP Andrea - I'm not familiar with the "400 host not recognized" error message. Sorry. It looks like you are using a WWW browser, and have properly set up the NTTP host name. Perhaps you should call the WWW browser company for more information on this specific message. Try simply using your email to subscribe to this news group, instead of trying to access it through whatever browser you're using. Hope this helps ... - Michael ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: USENET NEWSGROUP Author: Andrea Gonzales at INTERNET Date: 9/6/96 9:43 AM On Fri, 6 Sep 1996 msw@mailya.yakima.com wrote: > > Andrea, try news.alterdial.uu.net. This seems to be one of the most > complete news servers I have found. > > - Michael Thanks...I did but I get a message "400 host not recognized in the autorization file. Perhaps my santax is wrong nntp = news.alterdial.uu.net news folder = *{news.alterdial.uu.net/nntp}[] Is that right? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01203; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:22:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA23147 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:18:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA23142 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:18:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz4U5-00038TC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Henrik Johansson Subject: A way of adding extra headers? Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:07:09 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Is there a way of having pine add an extra header in an e-mail and/or usenet article. I looking for an easy way of adding the Approved: header for moderating a mailing list. Perhaps there is a better way than using Pine though, I don't know. Regards Henrik Johansson GlobeCom Network From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01848; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:34:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA02872 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:28:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA02867 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:28:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz4e6-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: enable-sigdashes 3.95 patch Date: 2 Sep 1996 22:32:22 -0500 Message-Id: <50g8s6$b2j@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I mentioned in a previous post, one of the things I think pine needs is an `enable-sigdashes' option, so that when appending a signature pine automatically places a "-- " on the line preceding the signature. Here's the patch I came up with to add an enable-sigdashes option to pine 3.95. I didn't spend a lot of time on it, so it could be (and probably is) buggy. Use at your own risk. I tried for a couple minutes to add help text, but couldn't get the text I had added to appear when the ? key was pressed, so I left the help text out. *** pine3.95/pine/init.c.orig Sun Sep 1 22:27:17 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/init.c Sun Sep 1 22:30:10 1996 *************** *** 1361,1366 **** --- 1361,1367 ---- {"enable-mouse-in-xterm", F_ENABLE_MOUSE}, {"enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon", F_ENABLE_XTERM_NEWMAIL}, {"enable-suspend", F_CAN_SUSPEND}, + {"enable-sigdashes", F_ENABLE_SIGDASHES}, {"enable-tab-completion", F_ENABLE_TAB_COMPLETE}, {"enable-unix-pipe-cmd", F_ENABLE_PIPE}, {"enable-verbose-smtp-posting", F_VERBOSE_POST}, *** pine3.95/pine/reply.c.orig Mon Sep 2 22:22:35 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/reply.c Mon Sep 2 22:23:28 1996 *************** *** 2537,2542 **** --- 2537,2546 ---- sig = fs_get(strlen(tmp_sig) + 10); strcpy(sig, NEWLINE); strcat(sig, NEWLINE); + if(F_ON(F_ENABLE_SIGDASHES, ps_global)){ + strcat(sig, "-- "); + strcat(sig, NEWLINE); + } strcat(sig, tmp_sig); fs_give((void **)&tmp_sig); } *** pine3.95/pine/pine.h.orig Mon Sep 2 22:22:52 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/pine.h Sun Sep 1 22:41:56 1996 *************** *** 1153,1159 **** #define F_FROM_DELIM_IN_PRINT 80 #define F_BACKGROUND_POST 81 #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 82 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! --- 1153,1160 ---- #define F_FROM_DELIM_IN_PRINT 80 #define F_BACKGROUND_POST 81 #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 ! #define F_ENABLE_SIGDASHES 83 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 83 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01904; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:37:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA23488 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:33:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA23480 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:33:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz4ho-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: Re: HPUX 10.x VT100 problems with vi, pine, etc Date: 2 Sep 1996 01:59:35 GMT Message-Id: <50df27$890@server05.icaen.uiowa.edu> References: <507uid$6vu@news.csus.edu> sandhoff@csus.edu (John F. Sandhoff) writes: >Ah, good 'ol HP. At 10.x, they redefined the definition of what a VT100 >looks like ('vt100 as defined by DEC vt420'), adding loads of new >definitions. Now, maybe a real VT100 is capable of all these nifty things, >but lots of the 'real world' emulators can't handle it all. Most notably to >us was that vi couldn't delete chars from the middle of a line, and neither >could pico or pine... Egads, I've seen this problems with HP-UX 10.10, and I assumed it was bugs in HP's curses library, since they seem to have made some fairly big changes there for 10.x. Since I had more important stuff going on from the 10.x upgrade, and other changes, I hadn't really put any effort into looking into this yet. But I never thought to check the terminfo definitions... Hey HP, you _really_ should change it back to how it was, I've had a lot of users using PC VT100 emulation software from home complaining about emacs, vi, pine, lynx, ncftp, etc. I know that at least some of was fixed by my trying this simple fix. Not working with standard PC terminal emulators is going to make people think that HP's quality is at fault, not the authors of the terminal emulators. Yes yes, I know, standards compliance and all that, but sometimes standards are determined by what is really out there, not what some ANSI standard document claims! If it isn't changed, I suspect it'll become one of those things that HP admins who know what they are doing do to systems after they are installed as a matter of course, while less knowledgeable admins will not know why their HP systems behave this way. And its these sort of details that cause people to prefer one sort of Unix system over another. -- Douglas Siebert Director of Computing Facilities douglas-siebert@uiowa.edu Division of Mathematical Sciences, U of Iowa "It is easier to apologize than to get permission" -- Grace Hopper From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03481; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:08:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA05073 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:58:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA05068 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:58:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz63J-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 11:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Kirchhoff Subject: Re: UNIX PINE3.95, AIX4.1.x freeze up ... Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 10:20:34 -0400 Message-Id: <32303332.41C6@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <50o0ur$3uvc@mirac.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Farid Hamjavar wrote: > > AIX4.1.4 > UNIX PINE3.95 > > Greetings .... > We have been trying to resolve this since Late July ... > > We receive calls from our clients in various situations, > that their PINE 3.95 session hangs; some indefinitely frozen, > and some intermittently get back to normal situation by doing a > Cntrl-Z and foregorunding the process .... We have turned on > debugging and turned SYSV style signaling flags > on and we tried many things but we seem to be unable > to find out why PINE3.95 freeze up on many of our clients. > > I e-mailed pine-info and pine-debug several times > since August and we have not heard from them yet. > > If you're a site with non-problematic usage of UNIX > PINE 3.95 under AIX4.1.4, maybe we can compare your pre-compile > config file with those of ours and see something we have not > been able to see up to this point ... > > Thanks, > Farid > hamjavar@unm.edu After a week of debugging I found the problem with Pine 3.95 apparently locking is an unitialized buffer being passed to the terminal setup routine in Pico. The fix is to update Pico to use terminfo. Steps: (in pico directory) 1. Edit makefile.a41 change tcap.c/tcap.o entries to tinfo.c/tinfo.o 2. Edit os_unix.h and update the following (note the added a41 define): /* Machine/OS definition */ #if defined(ptx) || defined(sgi) || defined(sv4) || defined(sco) || defined(a41) #define TERMINFO 1 /* Use TERMINFO */ #else #define TERMCAP 1 /* Use TERMCAP */ #endif 3. A little cleanup to tinfo.c (in routine tinfoopen()): if (Pmaster) { /* * setupterm() automatically retrieves the value * of the TERM variable. */ int err; setupterm ((char *)0, 1, &err); /* <-- Add cast */ if (err != 1) return FALSE; } else { /* * setupterm() issues a message and exits, if the * terminfo data base is gone or the term type is * unknown, if arg2 is 0. */ setupterm ((char *)0, 1, (int *)0); /* <-- Add cast */ } Since these small changes Pine 3.95 has been rock solid under AIX 4.1.4 and 4.2. Good luck. - Bill -- ============================================================================= William S. Kirchhoff - Sr. System Programmer - Northeast Regional Data Center bill@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27203; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:29:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA26423 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:18:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA26415 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:18:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz6PL-00038UC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Reginald N Patton Subject: Re: Off line reader Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:22:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <322f4668.825586@news.his.com> References: <322f4668.825586@news.his.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Michael Morse wrote: > > >I have been asked "is there an off line reader which would work with > >Pine". My answer was, no I don't think so - but I thought I should ask all > >you "out there" in case I'm wrong. We are running Pine 3.95 under SCO 4.2 > >... Clients generally use telix or procomm for terminal emulation. > > I'm not sure what you mean by an off-line reader, and I've never tried > it, but you might want to look at PC-PINE. You'll need an IMAP > server. In general, an offline reader can connect to the news server download and store messages and then disconnect from the news server. So you are not accessing the news server everytime you move to at new message, the messages are stored on your hard disk. -- Reginald N Patton MDT, Inc. rnp@mdtsoft.com 770-642-3012 "Time is an excellent teacher, unfortunately it kills all of it's pupils." --Hector Berlioz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04709; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:41:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA26733 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:34:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA26722 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:34:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz6cI-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Suggestion Date: 6 Sep 1996 18:12:16 GMT Message-Id: <50ppi0$pt5@due.unit.no> References: In article , Edmund Lau wrote: >I sometimes have the need to Export my entire addressbook instead of just >an entry at a time. I know that I could just copy my .addressbook file >and use that, but it isn't formated in any way. I would have to add >spaces to all my addresses when I'm in my word processor. Is it possible >to have it output similar to how it outputs when I choose the Print >command? I got it to work as follows: Go to the Setup Config screen and set the option print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt. Now, when you use the print (Y) command, you can send the output to a command instead of to a printer, by pressing (C) for CustomPrint. So, from the address book do: Y (print) C (customprint) cat >filename Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04071; Fri, 6 Sep 96 13:00:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA27151 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:53:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA27146 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:53:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz6uI-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: PC-Pine and Samba Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:08:10 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Cory Tsang wrote: > I'm curious if I have SAMBA sharing out mail folders from a Unix box, > would PC-Pine be able to read that inbox directly without having to deal > with IMAP or POP? The brief answer is "yes, but it's a bad idea." It's slower, less functional, and less reliable (no locking) than IMAP. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07047; Fri, 6 Sep 96 14:11:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA07905 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:03:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA07900 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:03:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz80u-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 14:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marvin@superlink.net (Warren or Tony Lieuallen) Subject: Two simple(?) questions. Date: 2 Sep 1996 23:04:00 GMT Message-Id: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> 1) When I press CTRL-K to kill a line, pine only clears it, then deletes it with another press. It never used to do this. Can this be fixed? 2) Is it possible to turn off writing to dead-letter? Thanks! -- The nice thing about Windows is that it does Tony Lieuallen not just crash... It displays a dialog marvin@mars.superlink.net box and lets you press 'OK' first. http://mars.superlink.net/marvin/home http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/1171/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07346; Fri, 6 Sep 96 14:32:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA29262 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:28:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom6.netcom.com (netcom6.netcom.com [192.100.81.114]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA29251 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:28:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (budkeith@localhost) by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id OAA00360; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:28:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Bud Keith X-Sender: budkeith@netcom6 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: possible bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In trying to set the initial key strokes to take me into my inbox and open the first message, I type in "i,CR". For some reason, the "i" is accepted on the proper line, but the "CR" is placed on the next line by itself. If I save the new .pinerc file and reboot, i get a message telling me that there is a missing comma. budkeith@netcom.com bud keith, blind skier, tandem biker, returned Peace Corps volunteer and cancer surviver in arlington virginia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07656; Fri, 6 Sep 96 15:06:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA29966 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:01:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA29961 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:00:57 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 7 Sep 96 06:05:57 +0800 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 05:57:57 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Warren or Tony Lieuallen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Two simple(?) questions. In-Reply-To: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Sep 1996, Warren or Tony Lieuallen wrote: > 1) When I press CTRL-K to kill a line, pine only clears it, then deletes > it with another press. It never used to do this. Can this be fixed? Have not seen this problem with 3.94/95 on Solaris. What platform/version are you running. > 2) Is it possible to turn off writing to dead-letter? [X] quell-dead-letter-on-cancel In setup/config. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11242; Fri, 6 Sep 96 18:13:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA03695 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:04:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA03689 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:04:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzBkb-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 17:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:09:53 -0400 Message-Id: References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> <50g7mq$666@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50g7mq$666@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> On 3 Sep 1996, Rob Funk wrote (excerpted): > Well, MY original source was various documentation [...] > # A > # standard delimiter line makes it possible for > # reading agents to handle signatures specially if > # desired. (This is unfortunately hampered by > # extensive misunderstanding of, and misuse of, the > # delimiter.) Indeed. It has come to the point, in my informal observation, that so few observe this convention (if they even know about it, which many probably do not) that for practical purposes it has ceased to be effective or even very meaningful. The world does change, and sometimes even de facto standards become obsolete and therefore unenforceable in practice. > # NOTE: The choice of delimiter is somewhat unfortu- > # nate, since it relies on preservation of trailing > # white space, but it is too well-established to > # change. Indeed, again. When I am writing running text, my preferred Un*x editor routinely truncates trailing blanks when writing a file, so that even if I had "-- " in my .signature, Pine includes it automatically as part of the editable text, and the editor would simply truncate the blank. The signature delimiter may be "too well-established to change," but it collides with the reality of the tools people use. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09288; Fri, 6 Sep 96 19:18:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA04572 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:15:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu (phantom.cac.washington.edu [140.142.110.47]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA04567 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:14:58 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id TAA09568; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:14:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:14:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Warren or Tony Lieuallen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Two simple(?) questions. In-Reply-To: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Sep 1996, Warren or Tony Lieuallen wrote: > 1) When I press CTRL-K to kill a line, pine only clears it, then deletes > it with another press. It never used to do this. Can this be fixed? Check to see if the following feature is enabled: composer-cut-from-cursor If so, turn it off. (Unless you want emacs-style control-K behavior, in which case the behavior you describe is indeed a "feature"...) -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11832; Fri, 6 Sep 96 20:12:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA14287 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA14282 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:09:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzDlD-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 20:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Two simple(?) questions. Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 16:23:08 -0700 Message-Id: References: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Sep 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2 Sep 1996, Warren or Tony Lieuallen wrote: > > > 1) When I press CTRL-K to kill a line, pine only clears it, then deletes > > it with another press. It never used to do this. Can this be fixed? > > Have not seen this problem with 3.94/95 on Solaris. What > platform/version are you running. > This is the new behavior with the compose-cut-from-cursor feature selected. Deselect that feature and you should get the old behavior back. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31343; Fri, 6 Sep 96 21:52:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA15384 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:49:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA15379 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:49:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzFKo-00038UC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 21:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: QUESTION: auto-forwarding Date: 3 Sep 1996 11:27:58 -0500 Message-Id: <50hmae$1p6@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com>, Matt Zwolinski wrote: > > Is there any way to set pine to automatically forward all incoming mail to > another address? This is a FAQ. The answer is no. > If this is not something that can be done with pine, is there another, > reasonably simple, way to do it? This is a FAQ. The answer is yes. Check out the programs `filter' (part of the Elm distribution) or `procmail', among others. -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13309; Fri, 6 Sep 96 21:52:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA06357 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:49:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA06350 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:49:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzFKo-00038TC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 21:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Al Byers Subject: Try again - CR on command line Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 17:48:12 -0400 Message-Id: <322CA79B.2345@cfw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been trying for sometime to duplicate the output of pine from within a perl script. I have not been able to produce a message from which ccMail will detach a file except by using the attach method in pine. One option that should work (I know it is ugly) is to program the desired keystrokes into a -I parameter, but I cannot embed a CR or TAB or anything that will cause the next input to go to the next header. Can anyone tell me how to embed a CR, or better yet, how to do this sensibly? -- Al Byers Automation Group of Virginia, Inc. byersa@cfw.com P.O. Box 1091 540.949.8777 Waynesboro, VA 22980 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13721; Fri, 6 Sep 96 22:56:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA07040 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:54:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA07035 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:54:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzGJo-00038UC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 22:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MattZ@tsoft.net (Matt Zwolinski) Subject: cmsg cancel <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com> Control: cancel <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 20:52:01 GMT Message-Id: <322c9a4f.973600@nntp.best.com> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Matt Zwolinski | "Don't go around saying the world owes you mattz@tsoft.net | a living. The world owes you nothing. http://www.tsoft.net/~mattz | It was here first. " - Mark Twain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14215; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:04:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA16803 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:00:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA16798 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:59:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzHJW-00038TC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 23:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: adding Reply-To header Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:57:40 GMT When I add a Reply-To header in Pine 3.95, it doesn't seem to be recognized by my pine (when I send to myself). My pine does recognize other people's Reply-To headers (added in emacs for instance). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13980; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:06:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA07804 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:04:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA07799 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:04:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzHOY-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ness Subject: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 6 Sep 1996 22:21:47 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with that in the From: field? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13938; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:11:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA07881 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:10:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA07870 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:10:11 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 7 Sep 96 15:15:04 +0800 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:07:06 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Tim Mooney Cc: Pine Info , MattZ@tsoft.net Subject: Re: QUESTION: auto-forwarding In-Reply-To: <50hmae$1p6@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Sep 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > In article <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com>, > Matt Zwolinski wrote: > > > > Is there any way to set pine to automatically forward all incoming mail to > > another address? > > This is a FAQ. The answer is no. > > > If this is not something that can be done with pine, is there another, > > reasonably simple, way to do it? > > This is a FAQ. The answer is yes. Check out the programs `filter' (part > of the Elm distribution) or `procmail', among others. Well, since the question was for "all" incoming mail then maybe the .forward technique will suffice? (On some systems you can see "man sendmail" for details.) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14433; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:37:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA17166 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:34:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA17161 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:34:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzHt7-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atsai@scunix4.harvard.edu (Alexander Tsai) Subject: reply indent string Date: 6 Sep 1996 16:12:43 GMT Message-Id: <50pihr$6b8@decaxp.harvard.edu> i would like to change my reply-indent-string (pine 3.95) to a full indent, but the program doesn't seem to want to let me set " " as the character value. any thoughts? email to: atsai@fas.harvard.edu thanks -a From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 05:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16070; Sat, 7 Sep 96 05:00:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA20001 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 04:55:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA19996 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 04:55:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzLxk-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 04:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: JEANETTE ROTH Subject: HTML PICO FILES Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:53:21 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I save a html pico file to the server, so that it can become a home page on the web? jr. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16714; Sat, 7 Sep 96 08:10:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA22080 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:04:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ecn.net.au (warp.ecn.net.au [198.142.61.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA22075 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:04:27 -0700 Received: from brecom.UUCP by ecn.net.au with UUCP id AA25704 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info); Sun, 8 Sep 1996 00:42:51 +1000 Received: from unixdev by brecom.amh.com.au id aa11353; 7 Sep 96 17:57 est Received: from unixdev by unixdev.amh.com.au id aa29296; 7 Sep 96 17:58 est Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:58:21 +1030 (est) From: Kevin B Fleming X-Sender: kevin@unixdev To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Timezone for Pc-Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From where does Pc-Pine (for Windows 16bit) get its timezone from ? My Timezone is incorrect by 7 hours (PDT time). I assume this is a default time zone.. Thanks. ____________________________________________________________ _--_|\ Kevin B Fleming kevin@amh.com.au internal phone: 40225 / AMH Network Administrator phone: +61 7 3810-2225 \_.--._/ Australia Meat Holdings fax: +61 7 3816-0535 v From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17251; Sat, 7 Sep 96 08:15:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA12912 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:10:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA12907 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:10:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzOyh-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 08:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jan Schroeder Subject: imapd and shadow passwd Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 20:23:12 +0200 Message-Id: <32306C10.41C6@rz.uni-greifswald.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to set up imapd on a HP running HP-UX 10.10. I just used the binaries for HP-UX 9 'cause I couldn't build it from scratch. My problem now: On the machine is a shadow password system installed. No log in at the imap port is accepted. Question: Is there a version of imapd for HP-UX available that supports shadow passwords? Do you know where to find an already compiled version? Thanks Jan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18071; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:33:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA13862 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA13857 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzQFn-00038TC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: mailing a text file Date: 7 Sep 1996 03:47:40 GMT Message-Id: <50qr8s$nc9@dns.ktb.net> References: Jean Schuller (schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr) wrote: | When you are in "Compose" mode, you only have to use ^R to read | an external file and insert it. And you have to make sure that your cursor is NOT up in the headings -- if it is you will get the 'Rich Header' option rather than 'Read File.' One other thing -- Pine is not good about locating files, even if it says it's looking in your home directory. You have to tell it the path explicitly: ~/newfile ;if it's in your home directory or ~/mail/newfile ;if it's in the 'mail' subdirectory. Bev bashley@ktb.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Don't you just KNOW that there is more than one Sierra Club member who is absolutely sure that the dinosaurs died out because of something humans did? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14926; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:33:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA23115 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA23110 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzQFl-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pprice@panix.com (CodeQueen) Subject: Arrgghh!! Pine and the mail2news gateway?????? Date: 6 Sep 1996 23:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: <50qrjn$hkj@panix2.panix.com> Pine apparently 'helps' you by preventing you from MAILing a message with the Newsgroups: header set to some value. This then means that you can't use pine to send mail to the mail2news gateways, which expect to receive MAIL with a Newsgroups: line defining where to post the enclosed message. They will also respect an enclosed References: line, to properly link follow on messages. This header also is not supported in Pine in regular mail. Arrgghh!! Does 3.95 fix this?? Isn't there any way to get 3.94 to send the mail, and not cry about the NNTP not being set up?? Pauli From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18089; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:34:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA23128 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA23123 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzQFz-00038UC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Replying Date: 7 Sep 1996 03:16:16 GMT Message-Id: <50qpe0$ngi@star.epix.net> References: <322C37C3.12BE@norvell.com> Ed Greshko (Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com) wrote: : On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Chris Womack wrote: : > > > Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before : > > > the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor : > > > to appear after the quoted text? : > > On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: : > > > RTFM or ? : > I've tried this to no avail...it DOESN'T work! As for DearOldDad, I : > wonder : > if he has anything better to do than reply to everyone with RTFM? : > Thanks for explaining the technique to me, but I already tried these : > options. : I believe most people missed your question. : You want your "cursor" to be placed at a specific point. : That option does not exist. : Regards, : Ed Well it wurx fur mee sow now with out furthur adoo an totaally disregardingin the contorol T spellchequuer thingy and all the other good stuff in the pine in the pine where the sun never shines and kudos to the piney developars imho yall mayhaps may whissh two rtfm won moor thyme b4 ewe post a flame. Yank you and have a nice day even if you have other plans. BYE. oh, I gess i'll just prYnt thiss out ... o won more thing ... the prYnt command duz wurk if y'all have yr config sys setup correctly ... well it's only a thought ... G'Day /\ /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad)/ \/\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA / / \/ / / /email/dad@epix.net / | USA EARTH ____/___/____\/__/_ http://www.epix.net/~dad |\____ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18655; Sat, 7 Sep 96 10:43:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA14605 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:41:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA14600 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:41:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzRK6-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 10:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Schuller Subject: Re: How do I unsubscribe? Date: 4 Sep 1996 13:01:37 GMT Message-Id: <50jujh$hv1@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> References: <3224BA1A.509@dagy.danderyd.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit send the following command in email to Majordomo@cac.washington.edu unsubscribe pine-info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18456; Sat, 7 Sep 96 10:48:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA24013 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:44:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA24008 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:44:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA11674; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:46:03 +0500 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:46:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail Reply-To: Chip Old To: "List (pine-info)" Subject: Pine 3.95 Abort Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For about a month we have been using Pine 3.95 successfully on our Sun SPARC 20 under Solaris 2.3. Rather than compile it locally, I used the precompiled binaries from the ftp site. However, there have been several occasions within the past few days when Pine has aborted with the following message: Problem detected: "Received abort signal". Pine Exiting. Abort The .pine-debug offers no useful clues, saying only this at the very end of the file. Aside from this, .pine-debug shows nothing unusual: about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal According to reports from our users, this only occurs while composing a message. The message is not preserved when Pine aborts, so the user has to start over from scratch. Naturally, it's always a very long message. :-( Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Administrator, Internetworking Services Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15266; Sat, 7 Sep 96 12:24:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25152 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:21:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25147 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:21:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzSud-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 12:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stephen@clark.net (Stephen Balbach) Subject: Re: slow pine, solved!! Date: 7 Sep 1996 19:00:44 GMT Message-Id: <50sgos$r8k@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article , Bruno Boettcher wrote: >Thanks to the unknown with his slow imap connections (mail lost in >excitement...). > >I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with >internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... If you dont have IN-ADDR setup in DNS and your running TCP wrappers you'll get slow response. Replacing the name with a number will solve the symptom. Best to setup IN-ADDR as this slow response will manifest in other aplications as well. explorer2:[/opt3/stephen] nslookup 192.45.233.7 *** explorer2.clark.net can't find 192.45.233.7: Non-existent domain -- --- Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19979; Sat, 7 Sep 96 13:39:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA25945 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:34:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chinet.isdn.wwa.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA25939 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:34:08 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (localhost) by chinet.isdn.wwa.com ; 7 SEP 96 15:32:17 CDT Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:32:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Arrgghh!! Pine and the mail2news gateway?????? In-Reply-To: <50qrjn$hkj@panix2.panix.com> Message-Id: References: <50qrjn$hkj@panix2.panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The mail-to-news gateway I use on occasion requires me to name the newsgroup in the "To: " header. May I ask what gateway you use? On 6 Sep 1996, CodeQueen wrote: > Date: 6 Sep 1996 23:53:27 -0400 > From: CodeQueen > Pine apparently 'helps' you by preventing you from MAILing a message with > the Newsgroups: header set to some value. This then means that you can't > use pine to send mail to the mail2news gateways, which expect to receive > MAIL with a Newsgroups: line defining where to post the enclosed message. Just add the "References: " header in customized headers. It is supported. On the other hand, Pine does not allow you to manually enter information into the "In-Reply-To: " header. Before sending the followup article, enable the full headers. Then, manually cut the Message ID, and paste it into the References: header. But, do remember to cut the other 30 unneeded headers! This is not necessary in version later than 3.91. Just enable viewing the "Message-ID: " header. > They will also respect an enclosed References: line, to properly link follow > on messages. This header also is not supported in Pine in regular mail. Incidently, to those of you reading this as a followup article on Usenet, this message was sent to the pine-info list with the References: header added. The header is not always passed through upon being gated to Usenet. I am curious to try her mail-to-news gateway, to see if it preserves more headers. I have tried manually entering Message IDs into header information for the purpose of news-to-mail gateway. But, Pine does not allow additional Message IDs to be entered into the "In-Reply-To: " header, even though that does seems to be encouraged by the RFC! What would be really nice would be if gateways automatically converted "References: " to "In-Reply-To: ", to allow for threading, so that the author of the reply/followup article doesn't need to. It would also be nice if Pine threaded e-mail messages, wherever the "In-Reply-To: " header existed. (Many MUAs don't add that header.) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07301; Sat, 7 Sep 96 14:51:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA17211 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:46:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA17206 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:46:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzVCw-00038UC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 14:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ted Chang Subject: mailing list Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:33:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i have some extremely long mailing lists. whenever i send something out on them, it is very annoying to the readers because they have to wade through pages and pages of header addresses. is there any way for the readers to simply see the title of the mailing list, without seeing every single address, in pine? please email me, ted From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18749; Sat, 7 Sep 96 15:54:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA27527 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:51:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA27522 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:51:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzWBL-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 15:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: Download from UNIX Shell to PC Date: 7 Sep 1996 03:54:17 GMT Message-Id: <50qrl9$nc9@dns.ktb.net> References: PattyB (Pattyb50@cris.com) wrote: | I am currently using PINE 3.95 thru a UNIX Shell and need help finding | the protocol for downloading from Folders to my PC via Zmodem transfer. | Using TELIX v3.21. For some reason, I am unable to locate the doc file | for my TELIX comm program. Help??? Thanks. The Zmodem command is usually sz to download and rz to upload: sz dnload.fil ;ought to do it. I use procomm/pcplus on my pc, which has a configuration option to automatically download when the host starts it. Telix probably has the same thing somewhere. Bev bashley@ktb.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "It doesn't get any easier - you just go faster." -- Greg Lemond From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24694; Sat, 7 Sep 96 17:51:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA21256 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:49:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (vigrid.cfar.umd.edu [128.8.132.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA21251 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:49:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA23905; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 20:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 20:49:02 -0400 (EDT) From: ADAM Sulmicki To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine is getting more green. In-Reply-To: <50qpe0$ngi@star.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There was annoying fact that when the number of fields in header is variable so the "Subject:" line was usually in different place when reading each message. So it was pain in ass to find it when reading messages in cruise-cruse mode (N or D advances to next message), and I usually found myself reading message, then going to index to read subject of next message, and then going into the next message. Here is an small fix to make subject of message being in green color (replace the 32 w/ 7 to get inverse video modem for terminals which does not support colors). So now, when you _view_ each message, the subject highlighted /w cool green color. Yep, there is ample room for improvement, it could be possible to add it for config file/setup, it could ask in what color you want it highlighted, it could detec if your terminal support color, and if not use inverse video mode. It could colorize other parts of header. For example the signature could be yellow, the body dark-whie, and other parts of header (evelope) in differnet colors -- but for me it does all what I wanted to. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [root@ax pine]# diff -u mailview.c.ORIGINAL mailview.c --- mailview.c.ORIGINAL Sat Sep 7 14:30:16 1996 +++ mailview.c Sat Sep 7 14:47:01 1996 @@ -1502,10 +1502,16 @@ if((which & FE_SUBJECT) && e->subject && e->subject[0]){ if(prefix) gf_puts(prefix, pc); - +/* +Copyright 1996. Adam Sulmicki +\e[0;7m (inverse) +\e[0;32m (green) +\e[0;37m (reset - WoB) +*/ gf_puts("Subject: ", pc); + gf_puts("\e[0;32m", pc); /* setting green, alt. use 7 for inverse*/ format_env_puts((char *) rfc1522_decode((unsigned char *) tmp_20k_buf, e->subject, NULL), pc); + gf_puts("\e[0;37m", pc); /* setting green, alt. use 7 for inverse*/ gf_puts(NEWLINE, pc); } ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And a quick perl script which let you see what # correspond to what color (and optionally you can use it to check if your termainal supports colors at all. ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/usr/imports/bin/perl # Copyright 1996. Adam Sulmicki foreach $i (1..7,30..47) { if ($i <= 7) {$s = " ";} else {$s = "";} print ("[\e[0;${i}mcolor $i$s\e[0;37m]\t"); if ( ($i == 5) || ($i == 32) || ($i == 37) || ($i == 42) ) { print "\e[0;37m\n"; } } print "\n"; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 07:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20821; Sun, 8 Sep 96 07:25:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA04134 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 02:43:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA04129 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 02:43:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzgL2-00038BC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 02:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xyzzy@u.washington.edu (Trent Piepho) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 8 Sep 1996 09:08:32 GMT Message-Id: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> References: In article , ness wrote: > I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and >fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here >over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it >came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably >nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with >that in the From: field? Well, you can do several things. I don't think Pine will let you change your user name from root to ness, just because that would make sending fake email too easy. You can however change the domain name from scf.usc.edu to whatever by setting the user-domain option, in pine's setup menu. Another way to change the domain name is in sendmail. You should have a line in your /etc/sendmail.cf file that looks like this: # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) DM Just add the domain you want mail to appear to come from after the DM. This way if you send mail with elm, mail or netscape instead of pine the domain will still get changed. This is how I do it. If you want to change the username, I would suggest making a user called "ness" and using that instead of root. You really shouldn't use your computer as root all the time anyway. There is also a header field called Reply to: for when you want email replies to go to a different email address than the mail came from. Mailing lists often use it. I'm not sure how to get pine to automatically add this. -- |Gazing up to the breeze of the heavens \ on a quest, meaning, reason | |came to be, how it begun \ all alone in the family of the sun | |curiosity teasing everyone \ on our home, third stone from the sun. | |Trent Piepho (xyzzy@u.washington.edu) -- Metallica | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25466; Sun, 8 Sep 96 11:11:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA20162 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:08:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA20157 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:08:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzoF1-00038BC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 11:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hemicuda@computek.net (HemiCuda) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 7 Sep 1996 18:12:00 GMT Message-Id: <50sdtg$cru@sgi.computek.net> References: : I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and : fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here : over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it : came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably : nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with : that in the From: field? Are you logging into the Linux machine as "ness"? You'll need to be doing that if you are not now. Also, in Pine setup, you can set the domain name so that it'll show "usa.net" after the "user@". -- Scott Moseman hemicuda@computek.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26479; Sun, 8 Sep 96 11:25:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA10929 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:23:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA10924 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:23:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzoVx-00038BC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 11:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? Date: 8 Sep 1996 17:16:47 GMT Message-Id: <50uv1v$bt0@due.unit.no> References: <50tuol$7cj@ratatosk.uio.no> In article <50tuol$7cj@ratatosk.uio.no>, Kjell Andresen wrote: Will you be so kind as to include the name of who you are replying to in the body of your messages? I almost misquoted, and had to interrupt my editing to find out that it was Paul O. Bartlett: > I am only on 3.94, but unless version 3.95 made some catastrophic > changes, from the Main Menu go to Setup and Config. Scroll down to > customized-hrs and add the Reply-to: ... that you want. (When in > doubt, check the context-sensitive online Help screens.) > >As in 3.94 you have to add all headers you want incl. those "standard" >ones in that section! No, that's only necessary for default-composer-hdrs, not customized-hdrs. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28249; Sun, 8 Sep 96 14:55:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA13442 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 14:53:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA13437 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 14:53:01 -0700 Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (woodlawn.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.9]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13013 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:52:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (psl1@localhost) by woodlawn.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01645 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:52:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: woodlawn.uchicago.edu: psl1 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:52:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul L." X-Sender: psl1@woodlawn.uchicago.edu Reply-To: "Paul L." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bug. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i'm having problems opening my inbox. the program reports that it can't open it for some reason. i also have "mm" in my directory and have been using that. perhaps that is causing some confusion in mail directing. please tell me what to do. thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28590; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:06:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA23505 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:04:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA23500 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:04:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzsjk-00038eC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 15:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Authentication problem Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:31:30 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The problem: "X-Authentication-Warning: rigel.oac.uci.edu: rbaqai owned process doing -bs" "Message-ID: ++++++++ As you can see, I am running Pine 3.93 (the latest version that my administrator will place on the server for those who want something other than 3.91) on Solaris. The only change I made to my default settings was to change the user-domain part to uci.edu so that the from header shows my alias address instead of my exact server address (which is a little more preferred by me). My alias is the same ID I have on this server so it works well. Question: Why all of a sudden is pine worried about who owned the process (which I did own anyway)? And how can I change some setting so it doesn't have a fit over this and will not have an authentication warning line. For bandwidth purposes, direct replies only are needed if you prefer. Thank you, Rasheed _________________________________________________________________________ R a s h e e d rasheed@poboxes.com B a q a i http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29289; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:48:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA14801 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:44:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA14796 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:44:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uztLz-00038aC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: devpoly@cict.fr (BARDOU Jean-Frangois) Subject: french pine version ? Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 21:23:48 UNDEFINED Message-Id: Is there a french pine version ? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29345; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:48:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA24030 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:44:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA24025 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:44:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uztM4-00038bC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clint Danbury Subject: File Duplication, ooops! Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:52:44 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Boy did I ever screw up. Advice on the solution to this is welcome, requested, and appreciated. Here's my problem. I save various messages from various usenet newsgroups. I use maybe 12-to-24 different files with different names to keep things orderly. Normal sequence for saving a message is like this 1 "S" for save 2 "^T" takes me to the files 3 cursor keys take me to the specific file I want 4 key chooses that file. 5 puts the message in that file. Then sometimes I get fancy (or so I thought) and skip steps 2/3/4 by just remembering the name of the desired file and putting that name in place using my keyboard. This, of course, puts the same-named (but logically separate) file in my home directory instead of the ..../mail/... directory. And the result ? Duplicate file names on non-duplicate files located on logically different areas on my machine; i.e. el-confuse-o max-o Is there a simple way to .... (A) Take all of the contents of the file in my home directory (B) Put said contents into the file in the ..../mail/... sub-directory which has the same name (C) Delete the file in my home directory which has the improperly chosen duplicate name. ...? Thanks for any advice which is simple to understand and which also works in real life. ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; - ; Please send full names and social security numbers of - ; anyone you know, especially government officials, well - ; known media stars, corporate human resources directors, - ; and anyone else you may have or can get, to me at - ; - ; danbury@ssnShirt.com Clint Danbury - ; Box 742226 - ; Dallas, TX 75374-2226 - ; - ; A Q&A document explaining this project will be emailed to - ; any person who convinces me that they really want to - ; know what this is all about. - ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28909; Sun, 8 Sep 96 19:08:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA16465 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:06:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA16460 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:06:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzvVb-00038cC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 18:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: WeeSan Lee Subject: need pine to read different .newsrc files Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 18:11:30 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Sorry if this is a faq! For some reasons, I need to read more than one news server (eg. one local and one remote). And I need to keep track the news groups from each news server (in other words, I subscribe different news groups from different news server), how I could I do that? Maybe something like: .newsrc.local.hostname and .newsrc.remote.hostname Thanks. -WeeSan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19407; Sun, 8 Sep 96 19:13:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA16537 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:12:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA16532 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:12:06 -0700 Received: from [205.247.120.215] ([205.247.120.215]) by nerc3.nerc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA08117; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:11:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199609090211.WAA08117@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sun, 8 Sep 96 22:11:49 -0400 To: WeeSan Lee Subject: Re: need pine to read different .newsrc files Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com References: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary WeeSan Lee on Sun, 8 Sep 1996 wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry if this is a faq! For some reasons, I need to read more > than one news server (eg. one local and one remote). And I need to > keep track the news groups from each news server (in other words, I > subscribe different news groups from different news server), how I > could I do that? Maybe something like: .newsrc.local.hostname and > .newsrc.remote.hostname Thanks. start pine with the -p flag followed by the path to the .pinerc file -p Use alternate .pinerc file for more, start pine with the flag: -h TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Swapdisk/Swapfile Faq: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq.html Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31281; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:28:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA26573 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:26:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA26568 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:26:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzwls-00038bC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Filter question Date: 8 Sep 1996 17:50:51 -0500 Message-Id: <50vikb$5cr@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Matt Chatterley wrote: > Anyone who knows how to set filter up (ie setup a rule to delete certain > messages), please get in touch :-) 05:47pm dogbert mooney$cat .forward "| /usr/local/bin/filter" 05:47pm dogbert mooney$grep delete .elm/filter-rules if [ subject contains " purged " ] then delete Note that filter knows about other headers besides subject -- "to" and "from" are two other commonly searched headers. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31185; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:28:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA17324 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:26:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA17319 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:26:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzwlx-00038cC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Mime Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:05:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50uqij$416@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50uqij$416@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> On 8 Sep 1996, Andrew Tuitt wrote: > Mime is a big problem because whenever I send a file, program, or picture > it sends a whole ton of text that no one I know can decode. > Can this Mime thing be changed to something else that people on America > Online and CompuServe can decode? You could suggest to AOL and CompuServe that they get with the program and conform their email software to a published Internet standard! :-) Seriously, there was come complaint on an active and international mailing list I am on about sending 8-bit characters (usually ISO-8859-1). Not long after, the list owner announced that the software on the server (in Denmark) was being made Mime-compliant, and that as far as he was concerned, it was up to subscribers to be able to handle Mime-compliant email, because it is an Internet standard. (With Pine, of course, I have no problems. :-) ) I know that doesn't help you with your immediate problem, but unless outfits like AOL and CIS are pushed, they may not comply with standards. They seem to think that everybody wants, and is too stupid to handle anything else but, point-and-click. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20631; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:49:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA26784 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:46:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA26779 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:46:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzx4F-00038cC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Elizabeth Hamilton Subject: Pine for Linux Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 21:44:55 -0400 Message-Id: <32337697.73C4@uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are there Linux ports of Pine and Pico? If so, where can I obtain them? Thanks in advance! Elizabeth Hamilton From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20325; Sun, 8 Sep 96 22:11:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA18385 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:07:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA18380 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:07:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzyLd-00038cC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 21:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaguar1@netcom.com (Glen Wooten) Subject: Reply-To: How? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:30:52 GMT I've seen someone comment about having problems setting up a "Reply-To" section in Pine 3.95, but HOW do you set it up to begin with? There's no area in the normal configuration to do it... -- Glen Wooten (jaguar1@netcom.com) (alternate: jaguar@pro-amber.cts.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26713; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:03:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA28205 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:01:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA28200 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:01:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzz4y-00038gC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 22:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: delvecch@anna.az.com (James Del Vecchio) Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: 9 Sep 96 01:43:45 GMT Message-Id: References: Clint Danbury writes: >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? Pine hides the e-mail headers, unfortnatuely. At my ISP, pine only shows the forged sender lines. To see the full headers of my mail, I have to type "more /var/mail/username". This shows all my mail with full headers. Then I have to go into emacs and edit out everything except the particular spam I want to look at. This is a royal pain in the ass and I wish I had access to a mail reader with full headers, but at this time I do not. James Del Vecchio delvecch@az.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32400; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:11:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA28318 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:10:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA28307 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:10:12 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 9 Sep 96 14:15:13 +0800 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:07:09 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Glen Wooten Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Glen Wooten wrote: > I've seen someone comment about having problems setting up a "Reply-To" > section in Pine 3.95, but HOW do you set it up to begin with? There's no > area in the normal configuration to do it... This should help you get started.... OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30955; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:41:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA19420 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:39:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA19415 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:39:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzzu5-00038nC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kjell Andresen Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: 9 Sep 1996 06:30:45 GMT Message-Id: <510dil$5v6@ratatosk.uio.no> References: In-Reply-To: delvecch@anna.az.com's message of 9 Sep 96 01:43:45 GMT James Del Vecchio wrote: > Clint Danbury writes: >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. > >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? Pine hides the e-mail headers, unfortnatuely. At my ISP, pine only shows the forged sender lines. To see the full headers of my mail, I have to type "more /var/mail/username". This shows all my mail with full headers. Then I have to go into emacs and edit out everything except the particular spam I want to look at. This is a royal pain in the ass and I wish I had access to a mail reader with full headers, but at this time I do not. Pine is able to offer full view of headers. In setup check: [X] enable-full-header-cmd and then use h to turn on (and off again) full-headermode when you read the messages. -Kjell, who hopes Ørjan reads this easier! -- -Kjell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30087; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:50:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA28722 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:45:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA28717 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:45:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v001g-00038BC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Javier Iglesias Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:39:23 -0400 Message-Id: <510dvl$3e9@itw.com> References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, reith wrote: > Hello, > > > > > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? > > > > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? > > I think there is a POP version of pine but I am not sure. > However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP. Yes.. I know about Netscape.. but sometimes I have to telnet from a remote location that only has terminal capabilities.. so I can only run pine.. but I'l check into the pop version of pine.. or maybe someone else can tell me about a good poper for linux?? thanks! ****************************************************************************** Javier Iglesias - Internet Tidal Wave - Bethlehem, PA - 610.882.4220 ----===============================---- javi@itw.com http://www.itw.com/ ****************************************************************************** Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. ---Rich Cook - Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86, Windows '95 - ****************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00334; Mon, 9 Sep 96 00:08:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA19825 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:05:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA19820 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:05:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v00LQ-00038UC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 00:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwalter@sigma.not.for.mail.washington.edu (Ervin Walter) Subject: pine to recognize other addresses as me Date: 9 Sep 1996 02:20:25 GMT Message-Id: I am new to pine and have a question. Is there a wayto have pine recognize additional addresses other than the username of the system I am on as me? For example, I get my mail from three sites via POP3. The addresses are edwalter@usa.net, walter@chem.wisc.edu, and edwalter@students.wisc.edu. Is there a way to make pine recognize these addresses as me so that the '+' status marker works and so pine doesn't always ask about replying to *all* addresses when there is really only one address besides me? Do you understand what I mean? Currently, pine does not put any + signs because my machine (sigma.not.for.mail) is not on the Internet full time and does not receive any mail directly. It is all POPed. Also, if I reply to a message that was sent to edwalter@usa.net, pine asks if i want my reply sent to both the sender and edwalter@usa.net. Any help is appreciated, Erv Walter -- ____ ----==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ / / /\ \ - edwalter@usa.net --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - walter@chem.wisc.edu -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /______\ \ \ - edwalter@students.wisc.edu http://www.linux.org \_________\/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00801; Mon, 9 Sep 96 01:27:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA29972 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:25:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA29967 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:25:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v01c5-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 01:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Ishee Subject: Re: Feature request: anti-spam Date: 07 Sep 1996 17:29:34 -0500 Message-Id: References: Paul O Bartlett writes: > Depending on what operating system you are using Pine under, you > can already do what you have outlined with external tools. procmail > under Un*x I believe can do all the things you mentioned without > supervision if you set it up write. I am getting annoyed at the increase of advertising email making it into my inbox too. I've some simple filtering setup with procmail already. If any procmail gurus have suggestions or any existing example code to find spam I would be interested in seeing it. -- David +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David Ishee ishee@erc.msstate.edu | | Mechanical Engineering Senior | | Mississippi State University OS/2 and Linux user | | | | "I'd explain it, but there's a lot of math." -- Calvin. | | | +------------- http://www2.msstate.edu/~dmi1/index.html -------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01612; Mon, 9 Sep 96 02:51:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA00893 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:49:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chinet.isdn.wwa.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA00884 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:48:57 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (localhost) by chinet.isdn.wwa.com ; 9 SEP 96 04:47:07 CDT Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 04:47:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine will display headers (was Help with spam) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You will be happy to know that pine will display any header information that you require! You may grant your own wish! Go to the configuration file. From the main menu, choose (S)etup, (C)onfigure. Look for the enable-full-headers feature. With this feature enabled, you may view all of the message header information with the (H)eader command from the index, or while viewing a message. You will see the bang-path routing information that your mail took to reach your machine. Or, at least as much as the spammer wasn't able to hide. While in the configuration file, you may also choose to display additional headers while viewing your message, in versions after 3.91. > Date: 9 Sep 96 01:43:45 GMT > From: James Del Vecchio > Clint Danbury writes: > >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion > >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. > >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? > Pine hides the e-mail headers, unfortnatuely. At > my ISP, pine only shows the forged sender lines. To see > the full headers of my mail, I have to type > "more /var/mail/username". This shows all my mail with full > headers. Then I have to go into emacs and edit out everything > except the particular spam I want to look at. > This is a royal pain in the ass and I wish I had access > to a mail reader with full headers, but at this time I do not. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01610; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:39:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA21966 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:30:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA21961 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:30:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v03aS-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bjorn Harald Berge Subject: cmsg cancel <510r4f$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Control: cancel <510r4f$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Date: 9 Sep 1996 10:26:17 GMT Message-Id: <510rc9$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Article canceled from within tin [v1.2 PL7] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02021; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:51:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA01482 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:45:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA01477 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:45:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v03oG-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bjorn Harald Berge Subject: cmsg cancel <510r4f$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Control: cancel <510r4f$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Date: 9 Sep 1996 10:25:51 GMT Message-Id: <510rbf$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Article canceled from within tin [v1.2 PL7] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 04:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02095; Mon, 9 Sep 96 04:03:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA22273 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 04:00:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA22268 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 04:00:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v041q-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Victor Cheung Subject: Need Help: PC Pine 3.95 says "No Inbox!" Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 04:16:20 -0400 Message-Id: <3233D254.3008@netcom.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I followed all the installation instructions but PC Pine still does not work on my computer. Whenever I open the program, it says "No inbox!". :( I've played around with the setup/configuration, but I'm lost on the syntax of specifying folders (which I think may be the problem). Basically, I want Pine's folders to work in a directory on my hard drive -- just like Pegasus Mail or Eudora Lite. I have an internet account with Netcom that has these protocols: SMTP, NNTP, and POP. Is my problem related to this IMAP thingy that I keep coming across? (I'm not sure what it is at this moment and I'm not sure whether my ISP provides this) Any help would be much appreciated, Victor Cheung vcheung@netcom.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 05:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02891; Mon, 9 Sep 96 05:55:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA02953 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 05:51:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA02948 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 05:51:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v05jh-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 05:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ran Chermesh Subject: Out of Free Storage error message Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:21:28 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, My PC-Pine responds with a "Out of free storage" error message whenever I try saving a message. It is connected to a Novell network The error occurs while trying to access a folder, which resides on our main-frame unix machine. Is there a way to solve this problem? Ran -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _ _ _ _______ ______ _______ ___ ______ | | | | | |. __ |____ |. __ | |_ |____ | Dr. Ran Chermesh | | | | | || | | | | || | | | | | | | Behavioral Sciences | |/ /_/ / | | _| | | || | | | | | | | Ben-Gurion University |_______/ |_||___| |_||_| |_| | | |_| Beer-Sheva Israel 84105 |_| Internet:chermesh@bgumail.bgu.ac.il Phone:(972)-6747-2057 Fax:(972)-7-6472-932 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Homepage: http://www.bgu.ac.il/beh/ran.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A conclusion is a place where a person got tired of thinking From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 06:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03506; Mon, 9 Sep 96 06:54:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24281 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 06:48:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24276 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 06:48:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v06ea-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 06:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: 9 Sep 1996 13:10:50 GMT Message-Id: <51150q$3f7@due.unit.no> References: <510dil$5v6@ratatosk.uio.no> In article <510dil$5v6@ratatosk.uio.no>, Kjell Andresen wrote: > > James Del Vecchio wrote: > > > Clint Danbury writes: > > >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion > >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. > > > >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? [snip] >-Kjell, who hopes Ørjan reads this easier! Close, but not quite. Now it looks like James Del Vecchio wrote what Clint Danbury actually did, while the part which JDV actually wrote does not have an attribution at all. The custom is: the attribution should have one less level of indentation than what is quoted. This corresponds to the fact that the attribution is usually added by the next correspondent, and so should have the same indentation as what the next correspondent writes. The following is how it would work: In article <510dil$5v6@ratatosk.uio.no>, Kjell Andresen wrote: > >James Del Vecchio wrote: > > Clint Danbury writes: > > >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion > >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. > > > >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27238; Mon, 9 Sep 96 07:14:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA24576 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:11:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA24571 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:11:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v06yZ-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 07:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schlegel@crocker.com (Mark Schlegel) Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message Date: 6 Sep 1996 12:04:14 GMT Message-Id: <50p3vu$501@news.crocker.com> References: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mike Brudenell (pmb1@york.ac.uk) wrote: : : Finally... both Pico and Pine's built-in composer offer a very handy : command that justifies (re word-wraps) the current paragraph. This is ^J : (shown in the command menu at the bottom of the screen). : : Just put your cursor on the untidy paragraph and type ^J for it to be : rewrapped. (A "paragraph" is a sequence of lines delimited either by : blank lines or a line with leading whitespcae.) : : Cheers, : : Mike Brudenell It would be really neat to have pine able to do this ^J trick while being sensitive of reply marks like > or : that way when you do the justify ^J this: >>> Boss, >>> Bob go to Boston and ..... way out there ..... show >>> them the project report doesn't become: >>> Boss, >>> Bob go to ..... way out there ... show >>> them the project report but rather >>> Boss, >>> Bob go to.... >>> way out there .... show them the project ..... so the reply marks don't get all mixed into the text Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24460; Mon, 9 Sep 96 07:15:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA03978 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:11:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA03973 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:11:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v06yg-00038UC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 07:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan David Makepeace Subject: Problem Pasting into Messages Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:30:35 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are having difficulty pasting clipboards of over a very few sentences' length into new messages. Pine takes the beginning couple sentences of the clipboard and pastes it over and over into the message until we kill the session. When doing this Pine does not respond to the telnet abort-output, are you there, break, or interrupt process commands. I think we are running version 3.93. This, along with the fact that people can't download messages to their harddrives directly out of Pine, is compelling some people to migrate to Eudora when they might otherwise stay with Pine. Was this second problem fixed in 3.94? How does it work in that version? Insights appreciated! -- Jonathan David Makepeace Original Cataloger/Automation Specialist LSU Libraries, 30 Middleton Tel. (504) 388-3331, Fax. (504) 388-6992 Louisiana State University http://alexia.lis.uiuc.edu/~makepeac/ Baton Rouge, LA 70803-3300 mailto:notjdm@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04979; Mon, 9 Sep 96 08:08:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA25431 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:05:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA25426 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:05:06 -0700 Received: from ciint.UUCP by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA02628; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:40:13 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa15185; 9 Sep 96 16:24 WET Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:24:28 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering Reply-To: Richard Gering To: Ervin Walter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine to recognize other addresses as me In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Sep 1996, Ervin Walter wrote: > I am new to pine and have a question. Is there a wayto have pine > recognize additional addresses other than the username of the system > I am on as me? For example, I get my mail from three sites via POP3. > The addresses are edwalter@usa.net, walter@chem.wisc.edu, and > edwalter@students.wisc.edu. Is there a way to make pine recognize > these addresses as me so that the '+' status marker works and so pine > doesn't always ask about replying to *all* addresses when there is > really only one address besides me? Do you understand what I mean? Yes I do, your question was quite clear and to the point! And now for the good news: yes, there is a way to do this in Pine. Assuming that you are running the latest and greatest version of Pine (3.95), do the following: From the main menu, select "Setup" followed by "Config". In the list of configurable options that is then being displayed, look for the option "alt-addresses" (to quickly find it, you can type "w" followed "alt-a"). Now press "a" to add one of your alternative E-Mail addresses and continue doing this until you've added them all. Next, press "e" to exit the config utility and save the changes. This should solve your problems with replies and the + sign for personal mail. Kind regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31340; Mon, 9 Sep 96 08:52:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA05816 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:48:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from necro.interl.net (pm2-adr37.interl.net [205.244.161.37]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA05811 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:48:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA01482; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:46:07 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:45:53 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Elizabeth Hamilton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for Linux In-Reply-To: <32337697.73C4@uc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Elizabeth Hamilton wrote: > Are there Linux ports of Pine and Pico? If so, where can I obtain them? Try ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed/ pico-bin-linux.gz pilot-bin-linux.gz pine-bin-linux.gz There may be a /pub thrown in the path somewhere, but I think that's right ;-) BTW, those are only the precompiled binaries. I think the source (pine3.95.tar.gz) is in the /pine directory. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMjQ7miGB07hAGnFhAQHMhgP/Tseq3xhkLZqHRDKagVfYKP1xQmZChPKU Lyer7hy8XnEgOOpn0XwTz/60tmpIM8UHw8mECMNpIvM49+xKLAMSJKurDyuzxVI1 eRHzgr6IXDcV7ZU446+grpvw/kcUAPKWz5GI8uI5ivwMJXTcW5yT84o8eLag44rD d4eK0L8T6VI= =8n3/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Englander | PGP Key: mail w/ subj.: "get-pgp-key" jasoneng@interl.net | pub 1024/401A7161 1996/08/14 http://necro.home.ml.org/ | CB91E5609B28E286 2BCE260F6459AD71 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04942; Mon, 9 Sep 96 08:56:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA05920 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:53:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from engr.engr.uark.edu (engr.engr.uark.edu [130.184.64.233]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA05915 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:53:03 -0700 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 3279); 9 Sep 1996 15:53:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:53:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Peter Gosser X-Sender: pdg@engr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-126398554-842283971=:17237" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-126398554-842283971=:17237 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I hope it's only a Setup option that I'm overlooking. Anyway, What the problem is, is that whenever I send a message, to a Listserv for Ex. the (who the message is from line) has (who the message was to), instead. Which means, that the other people on the list can't tell that the message is from me without reading it, which (to be honest) is a hassle when on a high-volume list. Is there a Setup command, that I'm missing somewhere? Peter Gosser ---559023410-126398554-842283971=:17237-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02147; Mon, 9 Sep 96 09:35:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA06703 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:24:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from necro.interl.net (pm2-adr40.interl.net [205.244.161.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA06689 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:24:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01639; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:22:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:22:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Javier Iglesias Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. In-Reply-To: <510dvl$3e9@itw.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Javier Iglesias wrote: [NOTE: if someone wants to save this and repost it every time this question [is asked, by all means do so - it'll save us all alot of typing! > Yes.. I know about Netscape.. but sometimes I have to telnet from a > remote location that only has terminal capabilities.. so I can only run > pine.. but I'l check into the pop version of pine.. or maybe someone else > can tell me about a good poper for linux?? I'm using Pine 3.95 for Linux and although I use a 'popper' to get my mail, I also have my inbox on my ISP's mail server set up as an incoming folder - just for the heck of it... My ISP (InterLink LC)'s mail server machine is: mailhost.interl.net in $HOME/.pinerc - with incoming folders enabled: incoming-folders="Interlink Inbox" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX With the above, your INBOX will be /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME (the local inbox) and Interlink Inbox is the remote INBOX. If you want to change INBOX from /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME to your inbox on the remote machine (then you won't be able to read locally delivered mail with Pine), set this in $HOME/.pinerc inbox-path={mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX I also use popclient to get my mail which throws it in /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME. Try ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Mail/pop/popclient-3.0.tar.gz Read the INSTALL file, follow the instructions, then create .poprc in your home directory. To get my mail from the same inbox as above I have the following two lines in my $HOME/.poprc: defaults localfolder /var/spool/mail/A server mailhost.interl.net proto pop3 user B pass C A = my username on the machine running Pine B = my username on the ISP's mail server C = my password on the ISP's mail server Once that's set then you simply run popclient (no cmdline parameters are necessary because of the .poprc in your home directory) to get your mail. ...it will then be placed in /var/spool/mail/[a] and you can then read it on or offline using Pine by selecting your INBOX folder. Jason PS - There is no 'pop version' of Pine, pop support is built in (and stable - - for me at least - in v3.95) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMjREFCGB07hAGnFhAQENcgQAz6Zp+B44irT8IeWzhxyItcZj8P25j+DK 41YDuzWW0z50Zd8sxT7O4M/VIj/a8csD+7PUgqeNc356EvJOpWyRZ+z/dVmo/mik vyR9laWsAVNWfi5lOg5O664MpRVESbaPWe65n5HPCrGqQtjyIAb0vbdWI1u5cl+e Ggfi5SoRCAA= =1Nd5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Englander | PGP Key: mail w/ subj.: "get-pgp-key" jasoneng@interl.net | pub 1024/401A7161 1996/08/14 http://necro.home.ml.org/ | CB91E5609B28E286 2BCE260F6459AD71 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01710; Mon, 9 Sep 96 09:44:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA27780 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:39:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA27766 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:39:22 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA08370; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:35:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:35:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: newsrc file for multiple nntp servers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you create a news receive file for each nntp server? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREA D. GONZALES adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07671; Mon, 9 Sep 96 09:46:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA27891 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:42:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from necro.interl.net (pm2-adr43.interl.net [205.244.161.43]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA27886 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:42:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01863; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:42:07 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:41:50 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Ervin Walter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Pine to recognize other addresses as me In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 9 Sep 1996, Ervin Walter wrote: > I am new to pine and have a question. Is there a wayto have pine > recognize additional addresses other than the username of the system > I am on as me? For example, I get my mail from three sites via POP3. > The addresses are edwalter@usa.net, walter@chem.wisc.edu, and > edwalter@students.wisc.edu. Is there a way to make pine recognize > these addresses as me so that the '+' status marker works and so pine > doesn't always ask about replying to *all* addresses when there is > really only one address besides me? Do you understand what I mean? > > Currently, pine does not put any + signs because my machine > (sigma.not.for.mail) is not on the Internet full time and does not > receive any mail directly. It is all POPed. Also, if I reply to a > message that was sent to edwalter@usa.net, pine asks if i want my > reply sent to both the sender and edwalter@usa.net. In your .pinerc, add your 3 addresses to the alt-addresses= setting: alt-addresses=edwalter@usa.net, walter@chem.wisc.edu, edwalter@students.wisc.edu I have three addresses also, other than what I'm logged in as (otherwise this would come from root@necro.interl.net). I recompiled Pine to "allow_changing_from", then set From: to the address I have from my ISP. You might want to do that with your edwalter@usa.net address since it's most likely redirected to one of the other ones anyway... ...but FYI, I don't get the question from Pine asking me if I want to reply to the sender and myself ;) Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMjRIiCGB07hAGnFhAQHLnAP+NPhs5TZ5WSlSLujG3/JrsulK/VOph9zM 9PVW6fH+fCPlVH46xH7EKk/lmfdA2gxPB5K7C2/caqsQH2m7DqdaycGqIY71Z95H WV0ix+gwz4NeGvmbNHfGoUedQM6nV3keB1Jkb9LeEioYDPE3AT37/D+IDfwZvzZd SO99T7szvC0= =ukUZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Englander | PGP Key: mail w/ subj.: "get-pgp-key" jasoneng@interl.net | pub 1024/401A7161 1996/08/14 http://necro.home.ml.org/ | CB91E5609B28E286 2BCE260F6459AD71 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04978; Mon, 9 Sep 96 10:17:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA08041 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA08027 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:11:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v09rP-00038UC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 10:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Download from UNIX Shell to PC Date: 9 Sep 1996 14:36:16 GMT Message-Id: <511a10$3fs@star.epix.net> References: <50qrl9$nc9@dns.ktb.net> Bev (bashley@ktb.net) wrote: : PattyB (Pattyb50@cris.com) wrote: : | I am currently using PINE 3.95 thru a UNIX Shell and need help finding : | the protocol for downloading from Folders to my PC via Zmodem transfer. : | Using TELIX v3.21. For some reason, I am unable to locate the doc file : | for my TELIX comm program. Help??? Thanks. : The Zmodem command is usually sz to download and rz to upload: : sz dnload.fil ;ought to do it. : I use procomm/pcplus on my pc, which has a configuration option to : automatically download when the host starts it. Telix probably has the : same thing somewhere. OK, Patti, you can't directly download the contents of a (pine) folder. You first have to save that stuff (e)xport it to a unix file, then download the unix file from your server. Hope that makes sense? BYE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08188; Mon, 9 Sep 96 10:22:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA28852 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:16:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA28845 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:16:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v09vy-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 10:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Speedy Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 17:24:49 -0700 Message-Id: <323363D1.798C@speedy.net> References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Javier Iglesias wrote: > > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? > > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? > > thanks! I believe it does, just specify your inbox, in config, like this: {mail.server.com/pop3} It will ask for your login name and password, then d/l the mail. imap is better though, if you have imap access, just put in: {mail.server.com} imap doesn't have to d/l the entire mailbox either. I believe pop does. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11897; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:29:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA02232 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:18:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA02227 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:18:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0BlR-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: From field in Pine 3.94 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 21:13:25 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hehehe, they say the best man for the job is the one who suggests it needs doing. They also say RTFM. Well, having taken a little time to read /usr/doc/pine-3.95-1/tech-notes , I've found the solution to my problem, which will hopefully be of benefit to others... On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > I've seen one of the guys in the office set things up so that he can > change his From: field while composing messages... /usr/doc/pine-3.95-1/tech-notes: ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Determines whether users are allowed to modify the From line on outgoing mail. Even with this turned on, users will have to include From in their default-composer-hdrs or customized-hdrs in order to be able to edit the From line. Default is to not So it seems this is an optional, compile-time restriction. A good idea, really, just a pity it limits the decent folks. Ah well, only 30 hours to go before my download completes. Don't you love it when your local mirrors are down? :) Regards, Sheldon. ______________________________________________ Sheldon Hearn (email: sheldonh@iafrica.com) Home Page -- http://axl.iafrica.com/ UUNet Internet Africa Helpdesk +27-21-689-6244 "Hope is a letter that never arrives, delivered by the postman of my fear" -- Live From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11963; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:30:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA02374 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:21:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA02369 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:21:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Bqv-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Gruter Subject: TAB completion for Nicknames? Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:11:20 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, is there any TAB completion possible to be turned on for nicknames (in the Compose form)? (Example: Lu would expand to Lucilla if Lucilla is in the addressbook) Peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12834; Mon, 9 Sep 96 13:10:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA12383 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:01:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA12376 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:01:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0CUu-00038WC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae@is.dal.ca (Aidan Evans) Subject: Re: 3.95 on AIX 414 Date: 9 Sep 1996 19:59:37 GMT Message-Id: <511sv9$hg3@News.Dal.Ca> References: <50nhl0$1i8q@news.missouri.edu> Steve Meyer (steve@oseda.missouri.edu) wrote: > We put pine 3.95 up on our AIX 4.1.4 box and it intermittently >hangs when doing either a compose or a reply. Backing off to 3.91 >still works great, except for posting a bug report to cac washington, >whose robot said they wouldn't talk to us 'til we installed 3.95, >which hangs when we compose. Uh-oh, I'm circular... > Anyone else 'hanging' with 3.95 and AIX 4.1.4? Working? I have had reports of this too. I called IBM support; they suggestred a number of debugging tactics, and I asked if I would be ill-advised to upgrade bos.rte.tty. Tomorrow I will upgrade AIX: NEW OLD --- --- bos.rte.up.4.1.4.17 bos.rte.up.4.1.4.11 bos.rte.tty.4.1.4.16 bos.rte.tty.4.1.4.4 devices.tty.rte.4.1.4.9 devices.tty.rte.4.1.4.0 which are numerous fixes in the terminal area, and see what develops. P.S. I have also experienced "hangs" that were not: the screen did not change when, for example, I pressed "C" from the folder list. For this a CTRL/L brought up the right screen. Aidan Evans | AE@AC.Dal.CA | Computer Facilities & Operations | 494-3332 | University Computing & Information Services | Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S., Canada From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10025; Mon, 9 Sep 96 14:40:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA15336 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:37:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bioc02.uthscsa.edu (bioc02.uthscsa.edu [129.111.1.229]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA15329 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:37:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (seale@localhost) by bioc02.uthscsa.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA01582 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 21:36:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 21:36:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Seale To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: new message interruption Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using PINE 3.93 and running a csh. Whenever new mail arrives, there is a broadcast message that new mail has arrived. This message appears in the middle of the mail that I am reading within PINE and then the text of the new mail appears in the middle of the older message. Do I fix this from within PINE or is there something that needs to be fixed via the .cshrc? Thanks, Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ Jeff Seale, PhD | |___ University of Texas Health Science Center @ San Antonio ___|* | seale@bioc02.uthscsa.edu \ | http://bioc09.uthscsa.edu/~seale/home.html \/\ / \ / I'm just sittin here wonderin...The world's gone to hell \( and we blame someone else for the trouble we're in. -Joe Ely From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15039; Mon, 9 Sep 96 14:57:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA06816 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:52:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA06811 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:52:51 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 10 Sep 96 05:57:54 +0800 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:49:48 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Peter Gosser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Peter Gosser wrote: > I hope it's only a Setup option that I'm overlooking. > > Anyway, What the problem is, is that whenever I send a message, to a > Listserv for Ex. the (who the message is from line) has (who the message > was to), instead. Which means, that the other people on the list can't > tell that the message is from me without reading it, which (to be honest) > is a hassle when on a high-volume list. Is there a Setup command, that > I'm missing somewhere? Yes, you are missing something..... I believe you are assuming that since the message you have sent to the list is also being sent to you and pine is displaying it as: "To: XXXX" that everyone is seeing it in that manner. This is a topic that comes up frequently on this group. It is a "feature" of pine that shows messages that *you* sent to *you* as "To: XXXX" since you know you sent it. It is a "presentation" thing only. Meaning, the "From:" header is still there for everyone else to see. You can still use procmail (or whatever) to filter on that header. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15672; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:13:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA16253 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:08:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA16248 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:08:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0EPp-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Saving in Pine Date: 9 Sep 1996 21:58:14 GMT Message-Id: <5123tm$ebr@due.unit.no> References: <511emp$lcd@news.fm.intel.com> In article <511emp$lcd@news.fm.intel.com>, Amit Bodas - PCD ~ wrote: >Is there a way to save an email in Pine without the mail header ? Yes. While viewing the message itself, press V for View attachment. An ordinary email contains (in the view of pine) one attachment, which is the body without headers. Then choose S for Save from the attachment index. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16068; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:21:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA16462 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:17:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA16457 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:17:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0EZA-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfvzn@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Andrew Tuitt) Subject: Mime Date: 8 Sep 1996 16:00:19 GMT Message-Id: <50uqij$416@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Mime is a big problem because whenever I send a file, program, or picture it sends a whole ton of text that no one I know can decode. Can this Mime thing be changed to something else that people on America Online and CompuServe can decode? -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16738; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:41:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA07950 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:32:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA07943 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:32:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Eqj-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Gruter Subject: Re: new message interruption Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:30:08 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 9 Sep 1996, Jeff Seale wrote: > > I'm using PINE 3.93 and running a csh. Whenever new mail arrives, there > is a broadcast message that new mail has arrived. This message appears > in the middle of the mail that I am reading within PINE and then the > text of the new mail appears in the middle of the older message. > > Do I fix this from within PINE or is there something that needs to be > fixed via the .cshrc? If you would like to keep informed about new mails, maybe you try ^L every time your screen gets confused (in pine or emacs). Peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17901; Mon, 9 Sep 96 16:11:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA18011 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA18006 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:02:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0FJt-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 16:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mitch@unidata.ucar.edu (Mitchell S. Baltuch) Subject: Re: HTML PICO FILES Date: 9 Sep 1996 15:52:53 GMT Message-Id: <511egl$g3v@ncar.ucar.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , JEANETTE ROTH writes: > How do I save a html pico file to the server, so that it can become a > home page on the web? You talk to your webmaster who takes care of it. The file has to be either somewhere within your web server's document tree, or there has to be symbolic link from there to wherever the file is, or you have to have the web server set up to use a public_html directory type of a setup and put the file there. Exactly what you have to do depends on your web server setup. Mitch _______________________________________________________________________________ Mitchell S. Baltuch Unidata Program Center Software Engineer Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research mitch@unidata.ucar.edu WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/ Java Resource Page: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/mitch/java.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26069; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:38:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA18524 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:32:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA18519 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:32:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0LMl-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:23:41 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 9 Sep 1996, James Del Vecchio wrote: > Pine hides the e-mail headers, unfortnatuely. At > my ISP, pine only shows the forged sender lines. To see > the full headers of my mail, I have to type > "more /var/mail/username". This shows all my mail with full > headers. Then I have to go into emacs and edit out everything > except the particular spam I want to look at. > > This is a royal pain in the ass and I wish I had access > to a mail reader with full headers, but at this time I do not. You have access to a mail read with full headers: Pine! In the Setup screen, turn on "enable-full-header-command". Now, when reading messages, the "H" command will work to toggle between full headers and filtered headers. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21830; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:47:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA27793 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:43:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA27786 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:42:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0LZh-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: From field in Pine 3.94 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:48:42 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've seen one of the guys in the office set things up so that he can change his From: field while composing messages... .pinerc: # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when # composing customized-hdrs=From: Sheldon Hearn , Reply-To: He is using FreeBSD 2.1.5STABLE and Pine 3.95 . I'm using Redhat 3.0.3 linux (with which I'm thrilled, I got a real malicious kick out of nuking my Win95 drive for more swap space) and Pine 3.95 . If I leave my .pinerc set up like that, I get the message "Not allowed to modify From field" when I start composing a message. On my friend's BSD system, it works fine. As an aside, I realise that changing From fields is often a means of abusing email, however the ability to do so would come in very handy for work purposes. Any comments would be much appreciated. Regards, Sheldon. "Hope is a letter that never arrives, delivered by the postman of my fear" -- Live ______________________________________________ Sheldon Hearn (email: sheldonh@iafrica.com) --==oOo==-- UUNet Internet Africa Helpdesk +27-21-689-6244 -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, HOWTO and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! ________________________________________________________________________ http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-HOWTO http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-Tips http://www.redhat.com/mailing-lists ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe: mail -s unsubscribe redhat-list-request@redhat.com < /dev/null From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23936; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:56:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA18715 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:48:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA18710 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:48:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Leo-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Lellman Subject: Re: slow pine, solved!! Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:16:01 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 5 Sep 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > Thanks to the unknown with his slow imap connections (mail lost in > excitement...). > > I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with > internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... > > ciao > bboett > > > But I noticed your catchy return address... ;-) Smilin' Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23917; Tue, 10 Sep 96 00:25:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA28879 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:22:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zeus.usq.edu.au (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id AAA28874 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:22:00 -0700 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios.usq.edu.au [139.86.208.24]) by zeus.usq.edu.au (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA26177 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:21:25 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost by helios.usq.edu.au with SMTP (1.40.112.6/16.2) id AA046560068; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:21:08 +1000 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:21:08 +1000 (EST) From: Steven J Barton To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: News Groups Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, Can some-one assist me by giving direction on the best way to locate a suitable area to gain advise on accessing information via e-mail. Steve. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13603; Tue, 10 Sep 96 00:39:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA29066 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:37:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA29058 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:37:40 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA07797; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:37:23 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:37:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr To: Jim Lellman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: slow pine, solved!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Jim Lellman wrote: > > > On 5 Sep 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > > I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with > > internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... > > > > > But I noticed your catchy return address... ;-) > ehm, yes i was a bit too enthusiastic... running :%s/erm1/130.... on .pinerc appeared not to be the best idea. I swapped userdomain again to symbolic name.... In fact the problem resided on one side on the slow dns-response and on the other side on the failed rsh attempt. On my system I use ssh with a symbolic link named rsh, as a fallback i keeped old rsh... while ssh doesn't produce disturbing output when summoned, old rsh does.... Now I changed my /etc/profile to work with old rsh and moved old rsh to a new location replacing it with a link to ssh, since i like the idea of encryption.... BTW i didn't find the compile option specifying the location of rsh... what happens if there isn't /usr/bin/rsh? Another question: when pine runs long time, now less than before i get inbox access errors. Interestingly pine trys to open that box even when i am scanning the other boxes, resulting in lots of errors. Is this behaviour normal? (The inbox too is on my smtp server...). Other point the errors occur only in long runs, if i close pine and start another session then no error occur.... ciao bboett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12620; Tue, 10 Sep 96 00:44:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA29142 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:43:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA29137 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:43:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0NOy-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 00:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:10:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: : On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: : > On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Glen Wooten wrote: : > > [...] : > [...] Scroll down to : > customized-hrs and add the Reply-to: ... that you want. (When in : > doubt, check the context-sensitive online Help screens.) : Keep in mind that if you only type in "Reply-to", that's all that will : appear from your composer. I am aware of that. That's why I wrote "Reply-to: ..." with the colon and ellipses to show that you will probably want to fill in the actual reply-to address. That's why I also said to check the help screens. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25026; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:01:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA21014 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:58:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA21009 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:58:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Oao-00038TC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 01:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward Teong <4et@pobox.com> Subject: Extra mail messages! Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:05:30 -0730 Message-Id: <3235A6E2.706C@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I wonder does anyone has the same problem with me. I am using Pine 3.95 on my Linux(2.0.0) machine. After successfully popping my mail from my ISP, I will invoke Pine to read it. But the strange thing is that, with every new message, I will have a message without any text(without subject & from who), an empty line, diplaying prior to every new e-mail in the Index of incoming mails. Any advice will be appreciated. Pls get back by e-mail if possible. Thanks. Best Regards, Edward From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24959; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:02:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA29913 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:58:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA29908 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:58:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0OZL-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 01:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: Timezone for Pc-Pine Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:39:55 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Sep 1996, Kevin B Fleming wrote: > > >From where does Pc-Pine (for Windows 16bit) get its timezone from ? > > My Timezone is incorrect by 7 hours (PDT time). I assume this is a > default time zone.. > > Thanks. Insert the following command into your PC's AUTOEXEC.BAT (or CONFIG.SYS, if you're running DOS 6 or higher): SET TZ= where you replace by a 3-character timezone name, by the timezone offset (like -7 or 5 for 7 hours behind or 5 hours ahead of GMT), and by a 3-character abbreviation for daylight savings tiem zone. I believe PINE takes the offset wrong, so play with it until it works. - Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert, Dipl.-Phys. Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25256; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:30:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA21308 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:28:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA21303 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:28:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0P6p-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: netadm@gsl.net (Network Administration) Subject: newsgroup for qpopper? Date: 10 Sep 1996 09:26:58 GMT Message-Id: <513c92$6vo@ultra.gsl.net> Hi all: Is there any discuss group for POP3 server like qpopper? Ming From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25557; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:48:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA00486 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:43:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA00481 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:43:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0PLo-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John aka DearOldDad Subject: Re: Replying Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:14:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: <32261B16.3E5F@norvell.com> <508nn2$l7o@star.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: > On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > > Chris Womack (cwomack@norvell.com) wrote: > > : Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before > > : the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor > > : to appear after the quoted text? > > RTFM or ? > Heck, this seems like a good enough question to ask. If you don't have the > patience to answer, why not just leave it alone? Well, you are correct. I thought that a short answer indicating that pine has built-in (and context sensitve) help might answer the question, but obviously it did not. Thank you. G'Day. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25720; Tue, 10 Sep 96 03:07:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA00697 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:05:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA00692; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:05:11 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbgnw16852; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 06:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27437; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:04:36 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02307; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:55:04 -0300 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:54:58 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: majordomo@cac.washington.edu, majordomo@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine-help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII heloo , i want to subscribe for pine-info thanks and i want to ask this question i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home directory to another direcotory can you help me on that please i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24867; Tue, 10 Sep 96 03:08:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA21708 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:06:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA21703 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:06:04 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbgnw17055; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 06:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27440; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:06:05 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02312; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:56:47 -0300 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:56:46 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine-help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i want to ask about the news server i don't know how to put a news server can you help me please for that Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26103; Tue, 10 Sep 96 05:25:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA02339 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:21:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id FAA02331 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:21:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA05070; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:19:36 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:19:36 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Rasheed Baqai Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Authentication problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote: > The problem: >=20 > "X-Authentication-Warning: rigel.oac.uci.edu: rbaqai owned process do= ing > -bs" > "Message-ID: >=20 > ++++++++ > Question: Why all of a sudden is pine worried about who owned the proce= ss > (which I did own anyway)? And how can I change some setting so it doesn= 't > have a fit over this and will not have an authentication warning line. Pine does not complain, your sendmail does complain. A quick workaround i= s to add a SMTP server (probably the same machine you are working on) to th= e smtp-server variable in your setup/config screen (first page).=20 Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26031; Tue, 10 Sep 96 05:26:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA23324 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:18:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA23319 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:18:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Rjz-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 05:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stephen@clark.net (Stephen Balbach) Subject: Re: Slow connection to IMAP server ? Date: 7 Sep 1996 19:02:36 GMT Message-Id: <50sgsc$rc2@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article , Christophe Harbine wrote: > > Hello, > > We are running unix pine 3.95 as imap client on both sunOS 4.1.3 >and Solaris 2.5. Our IMAP server is a P133 under FreeBSD. We are facing >the following problem : > > We have tried the 2 following syntaxes in .pinerc on client side : > >1. inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox > >2. inbox-path={[192.45.233.7]/user=chris}inbox This is why: explorer2:[/opt3/stephen] nslookup 192.45.233.7 *** explorer2.clark.net can't find 192.45.233.7: Non-existent domain Setup IN-ADDR. /stb > > On client side under SunOS, with the first syntax, we need about >30 seconds until we get the password prompt ( message 'Opening "INBOX"' ). >With the second syntax, it's very quick ( 1 second or 2 ). > > On client side under Solaris, opening the mailbox is very slow ( >about 30 seconds ) with both syntaxes in .pinerc !... > > Certainly a problem with name resolving on client and/or server >side ?... Has anyone already faced this problem ? Any idea ?... > > Thanks for your help. > >Amicalement, /\ >Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul > /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique >/ \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France >/\ \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 > \ \ / / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > > -- --- Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 07:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27902; Tue, 10 Sep 96 07:45:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA04091 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 07:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA04085 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 07:39:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0TtT-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 07:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Oliver Neukum Subject: pine will not compile Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:37:43 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please help ! i am trying to compile pine on HP-UX 7.0. it will not compile properly with either gcc or the original cc. i get numerous warnings about assigning integers to pointers and the assembler fails terminally with expected floating point constant oliver neukum neukum@fachschaft.org.chemie.uni-muenchen.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30186; Tue, 10 Sep 96 09:16:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA06098 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:08:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA06084 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:08:50 -0700 Received: from kimbark.uchicago.edu (kimbark.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.52]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26344 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:07:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jwbritto@localhost) by kimbark.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23436 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:08:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: kimbark.uchicago.edu: jwbritto owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:08:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Britton X-Sender: jwbritto@kimbark.uchicago.edu Reply-To: Joe Britton To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Automatic purging of dated messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to keep Pine from automatically asking me if I wish to delete messages I've saved from months past. At the beginning of each month I am asked if I'd like to delete this old mail. On several occasions I have inadvertantly replied "yes" and lost important archives. BTW I've checked for a setup option to turn off this pine 'feature'. Also, is it possible to perform a search of all mail folders at once instead of sequentially? Joe Britton From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31279; Tue, 10 Sep 96 09:39:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA06770 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:34:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA06762 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:34:02 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 10 SEP 96 09:31:31 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:31:30 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Don Sugarman Cc: Pine Info Mail List , "s.m masieh ul islam" Subject: Re: PRINTING TEXTS OF EMAIL MESSAGES (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Was there a solution to this problem? If so, I missed it, and I'm experiencing the same situation with a setup very similar to Masieh. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Don Sugarman wrote: > To Pine Info members: > > A few weeks ago, S.M. Masieh ul Islam posted a message asking for help in > printing email messages. I asked him for more information, and I think he > has provided enough information that someone can answer his question. > > He is running in a DOS/Windows environment with a Canon BJC-210 attached > to his PC. He is dialing in to the Pakistan Telecommunication Corp. > PARKNET service via modem and, presumably, Windows Terminal program, to > run Pine. > > Can the Windows program be configured to recognize the print-through > commands? Is there another Windows telecommunications program he can > buy/download that is compatible with the print through commands? Is there > some other way he can print his messages, short of saving to a file and > downloading via xmodem, kermit, etc. > > Regards, > > Don Sugarman > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:39:30 +0500 (GMT+0500) > From: "s.m masieh ul islam" > To: Don Sugarman > Cc: razas02@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu > Subject: Re: PRINTING TEXTS OF EMAIL MESSAGES > > DEAR DON SUGARMAN ,I AM USING PC PINE IN DOS/WINDOWS ENVIRNOMENT. > - PRINTER IS NOT CONNECTED TO LAN SERVER OR TO UNIX SERVER.THERE IS NO LAN > INSTALLED.MY PC IS WORKING AS STAND ALONE UNIT AND IS CONNECTED THRO MODEM > TO PAKISTAN TELECOMMUNICATION CORPORATION `PAKNET` SYSTEM.THROUGH THEM I > GET CONNECTED TO PINE AND TO INTERNET. > I SHALL APPRECIATE FURTHER HELP.REGARDS.MASIEH > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32726; Tue, 10 Sep 96 10:30:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA29306 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:26:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from services.midusa.net (services.midusa.net [206.28.168.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA29301 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:26:03 -0700 Received: from 207.1.174.252 by services.midusa.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id MAA24979; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:22:36 -0500 Message-Id: <32355EA3.44AD@midusa.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:27:15 +0000 From: Star X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: X-Url: http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00427.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32633; Tue, 10 Sep 96 10:36:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA08348 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:34:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA08340 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:34:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0WfB-00038TC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 10:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: Reply-To: How?m Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:55:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Glen Wooten wrote: > I've seen someone comment about having problems setting up a "Reply-To" > section in Pine 3.95, but HOW do you set it up to begin with? There's no > area in the normal configuration to do it... > -- > Glen Wooten > (jaguar1@netcom.com) > (alternate: jaguar@pro-amber.cts.com) > You can customize your composer headers in config/setting. I believe the option is called custom-compose-hdrs or something equally as obvious. The only problem is that if you choose this, you have to type in *all* headers that you want to appear, or they will not show up. PS--sorry to all those who are so religious about the "-- " before sig lines. I've never used 'em and never will. No need as far as I see. If you can't tell the difference between text and sigs, then go ahead and waste your time. ;^] ----------------------------- O | Boy, I wish they put Cracker | o | Jax Prizes in Cheese Wiz!! | . ------------------------------ ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: http://ultra.infoseek.com ============================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00119; Tue, 10 Sep 96 10:39:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA29549 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:34:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA29544 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:34:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Wf3-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 10:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: I'm a new user. How do I create a signature? Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:44:56 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 2 Sep 1996, One or more of the Smiths wrote: > I read the help on how to create a signature file (saving it to > '.signature') but how do I do it? I've been searching for info on how to > but without any luck. I hope someone can help me with this seemingly > simple problem. > You simply create a file in your home directory called ".signature" and edit it to taste. You might be creating the sig file in a different directory, in which case you have to indicate the path in Pine's setup/config settings. ----------------------------- O | Boy, I wish they put Cracker | o | Jax Prizes in Cheese Wiz!! | . ------------------------------ ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: http://ultra.infoseek.com ============================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20483; Tue, 10 Sep 96 10:40:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA29556 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA29551 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:34:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0WfO-00038UC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 10:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:56:34 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Glen Wooten wrote: > > > I've seen someone comment about having problems setting up a "Reply-To" > > section in Pine 3.95, but HOW do you set it up to begin with? There's no > > area in the normal configuration to do it... > > I am only on 3.94, but unless version 3.95 made some catastrophic > changes, from the Main Menu go to Setup and Config. Scroll down to > customized-hrs and add the Reply-to: ... that you want. (When in > doubt, check the context-sensitive online Help screens.) Keep in mind that if you only type in "Reply-to", that's all that will appear from your composer. ----------------------------- O | Boy, I wish they put Cracker | o | Jax Prizes in Cheese Wiz!! | . ------------------------------ ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: http://ultra.infoseek.com ============================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00450; Tue, 10 Sep 96 11:11:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA09255 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:07:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from elbit2x.elbit.co.il (evs.elbit.co.il [194.90.134.226]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id LAA09244 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:07:54 -0700 Received: from elbit1.elbit.co.il ([120.1.1.1]) by elbit2x.elbit.co.il (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA03253 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:54:33 +0300 (GMT+0300) Received: from elbit.co.il (stots01.elbit.co.il [128.139.80.181]) by elbit1.elbit.co.il (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA12821 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:53:43 +0300 (GMT+0300) Received: from localhost by elbit.co.il (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01814; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:56:01 +0300 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:56:01 +0300 (IDT) From: "Haim S." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: who to compile pine without rsh feature. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have an imap server which suport a lot of pine 3.94 remote clients. each time a client from some remote machine is trying to connect to the imap server its take a lot of time until the connection is established. the message "Opening "INBOX" " takes about 1 minute until i got the: "ENTER LOGIN NAME: stots" from the host, I guess it is because some try to open a remote shell or something, can someone tell me what should i change in the source to make the connection more fast ? Sincerely yours Stots From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02070; Tue, 10 Sep 96 11:33:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA01126 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:29:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu (arthur.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id LAA01121 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:29:48 -0700 Received: from lore.cs.purdue.edu (simmonmt@lore.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.16]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.7.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) with SMTP id NAA24687 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:29:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:29:37 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Simmons To: Pine Mailing List Subject: Automatic generation of .lu files? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We use a global address book that is automagically generated every night, but we also need a way of automagically generating the .lu file. (or getting pine to stop complaining about not finding the global .lu file) Does anybody have a program to do that? Thanks Matt Simmons - simmonmt@cs.purdue.edu - I only speak for myself "A language is a dialect with an army and a navy" - Max Weinreich "After a case or so [of Dr. Pepper], you also begin to bleed from your ears and nose and howl like a rhesus monkey on crystal meth" - Larry O'Brien From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25139; Tue, 10 Sep 96 11:53:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA01706 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (h141-206-15-5.NCR.COM [141.206.15.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA01700 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:49:27 -0700 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04716; Tue, 10 Sep 96 11:48:15 PDT Received: from localhost by hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25354; Tue, 10 Sep 96 11:48:13 PDT Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:48:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Feinholz X-Sender: sf3@hostsw7 Reply-To: Steven Feinholz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Suggestion For Future Release In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Some email programs, like Sun's 'mailtool' allow the message to be sent to be retained after actually sending it out. This helps when I need to send one message to one set of people, but need to alter a portion of the message for another set of people, without having to rewrite the entire email. Right now, the only way to do it is to edit a text file and then read (^R) it into a compose window and edit it. It would be easier to compose a message, send it (without removing the compose window), edit it and send it to the other destination(s). Any chance of this? _____________________________________________________________________ ==== AT&T GIS | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 =--=== N | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 =--=== C | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 ==== R | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.NCR.com _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09310; Tue, 10 Sep 96 12:39:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA09915 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:37:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cscacs.csc.vsc.edu (cscacs.csc.vsc.edu [155.42.41.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA09910 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:37:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:38:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew N. Hartley" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <960910143834.4e1c@cscacs.csc.vsc.edu> Subject: Upgrading VMS Pine 3.89 to 3.95? I need to upgrade our current version of Pine (3.89) to the newest which I believe is 3.95. I was wondering if anyone has done the same operation and would like to spread the knowledge around. I would appreciate any help that I can get. Thank You Andrew Hartley VAX Operator E-Mail me at: Hartleya@sparrow.csc.vsc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04486; Tue, 10 Sep 96 13:16:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA12220 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:11:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cscacs.csc.vsc.edu (cscacs.csc.vsc.edu [155.42.41.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA12215 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:11:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:12:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew N. Hartley" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <960910161244.4e1c@cscacs.csc.vsc.edu> Subject: Upgrading pine 3.89 for VMS. I am in need of some information on upgrading a VAX VMS Pine system from 3.89 to the latest version. Is there a later version of Pine for the VMS or is it strictly for UNIX and PC? If there is a later version where is one able to download this file? We ftp'd to the download site and were unable to find any versions stating that they were VMS. Help would be greatly appreciated Hartleya@cscacs.csc.vsc.edu Andrew Hartley VAX Operator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03253; Tue, 10 Sep 96 13:17:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA12317 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:14:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from seq.hamline.edu (seq.hamline.edu [138.192.1.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA12312 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:14:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (jtessner@localhost) by seq.hamline.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA08028 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:14:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:14:46 -0500 (CDT) From: John Tessner To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sign-on message Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been getting a message which flashes for a second or two as I sign on to PINE. [Bad initial keystroke "" (no comma set?) Does anyone know what this means? I asked our computer personnel here and got no explanation. Thanks. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John Tessner Voice: 612.641.2131 Hamline Law Library - D2010 Fax: 612.641.2236 1536 Hewitt Avenue Saint Paul, MN 55104-1284 "If you're not moving, you're standing still." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06016; Tue, 10 Sep 96 15:10:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA06807 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:06:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uvaix3e1.comp.UVic.CA (uvaix3e1.comp.UVic.CA [142.104.5.103]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA06802 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:06:47 -0700 Received: from ps5CORNa137.ssg.comp.UVic.CA (ps5CORNa137.ssg.comp.UVic.CA [142.104.27.35]) by uvaix3e1.comp.UVic.CA (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA118922 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:06:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:06:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199609102206.PAA118922@uvaix3e1.comp.UVic.CA> X-Sender: fangm@uvaix.uvic.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fangm@UVic.CA Subject: printing Is it possible to print my incoming mail messages from Pine. If yes, how do I do that. Thanks in advance. Ming @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@ Ming Fang E-mail address: University of Victoria fangm@uvic.ca (604) 472-2134 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31154; Tue, 10 Sep 96 16:04:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA16671 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:59:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA16666 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:59:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0blA-00038TC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 15:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Suggestion For Future Release Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:51:36 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Sep 1996, Steven Feinholz wrote: > Some email programs, like Sun's 'mailtool' allow the > message to be sent to be retained after actually > sending it out. > Here are some ways to do this in the current Pine 3.95 release: 1. - Set the Fcc: to INBOX (use ^R in the headers so expose it) - forward each copy, making the necessary edits. 2. - Set the Fcc: to postponed-msgs - The message will then be "postponed" ready to resume for the next variation. 3. - Cc: yourself and proceed like 1. and other variations... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10179; Tue, 10 Sep 96 16:47:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA09117 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:45:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA09112 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:45:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0cSl-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 16:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Managing Unix message folders with Windows Pine Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:12:20 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Probably the easiest solution is to convert the folders to MTX format (PC-Pine's native format) before downloading them. If you can wade through a compile, grab ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z AND ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z Uncompress and untar them both in the same directory, and compile mbxcvt. Then you can convert a folder with mbxcvt oldfolder mtx newfolder Good luck! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Sep 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > From: Nancy McGough > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Managing Unix message folders with Windows Pine > Date: 9 Sep 1996 14:53:16 -0400 > Organization: Infinite Ink > Sender: ii@best.com > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: shellx.best.com > X-Alternate-Reply-To: Nancy McGough > X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #6 (NOV) > > I've got tons of Unix message folders that are gzipped on my Unix > hosts. I'm downloading them to my Windows machine and gunzipping them > and using Pine to read, reply-to, and reorganize them. When I open up > these folders they are READONLY so I can't delete messages and they > don't flag messages that I answer. One way to solve this problem is to > select all messages in a folder and then save them all to a new folder > (using `; a a s folder.new'). Then folder.new is not READONLY. What > I'm wondering is if anyone has any suggestions for ways to speed up > this process of turning my Unix folders into read/writable Windows > folders. Does anyone have any scripts or conversion tools to do this? > Also, I'm thinking that it might be better to use some other folder > format, e.g., MH format, so if you have suggestions in this area, > please let me know. > > Thanks, > Nancy > > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10453; Tue, 10 Sep 96 17:02:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA18100 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:00:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA18095 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:00:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0cf1-00038TC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 16:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Col.Brewster" Subject: Pine time question Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:01:13 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I notice that when I use pine to read my email there is a number after the time the message was sent. Example: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 06:18:46 -0700 What does the -0700 indicate? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09862; Tue, 10 Sep 96 17:03:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA09455 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:00:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA09449 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:00:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0ch8-00038UC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 16:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert Mailer Address Lists Date: 10 Sep 1996 23:06:09 GMT Message-Id: <514s91$k11@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora to Netscape Netscape to Eudora Pine to Eudora Eudora to Pine Pine to Netscape Elm to Pine You can find links to these at the bottom of my Web page at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10527; Tue, 10 Sep 96 17:03:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA18110 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:00:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA18102 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:00:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0ciT-00038VC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 16:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine time question Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:59:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Col.Brewster wrote: > I notice that when I use pine to read my email there is a number after the > time the message was sent. Example: > Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 06:18:46 -0700 > > What does the -0700 indicate? It means that 06:18:46 is seven hours earlier than Greenwich Mean Time (Universal Coordinated Time), the "zero point" for time around the world. In other words, the mean solar time at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, England, was 13:18:46 when you sent your message (assuming your system's clock was accurate down to the second). This indicator on email and newsgroup postings is very, very valuable. It allows a recipient to convert the time the message was sent into his/her own local time for comparison. I live in the eastern US and wanted to try to engage in a "ytalk" session with someone in SE Australia. From the time indicator on emails I had received from him, I knew what the time difference between us was, so I could try to catch him at a time when he might be home and be logged on. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08231; Tue, 10 Sep 96 17:16:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA18493 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:11:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA18488 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:10:55 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 11 Sep 96 08:15:58 +0800 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:07:51 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Joe Britton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic purging of dated messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Joe Britton wrote: > Is there a way to keep Pine from automatically asking me if I wish to > delete messages I've saved from months past. At the beginning of each > month I am asked if I'd like to delete this old mail. On several > occasions I have inadvertantly replied "yes" and lost important archives. > BTW I've checked for a setup option to turn off this pine 'feature'. In your .pinerc file look for: last-time-prune-questioned=96.9 Set it =05.12 and wait for January 2006. Hummmm...wonder if pine is year 2000 safe. :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28038; Tue, 10 Sep 96 17:16:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA09848 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:14:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA09843 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:14:01 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 11 Sep 96 08:19:01 +0800 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:10:53 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Matt Simmons Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Automatic generation of .lu files? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Matt Simmons wrote: > We use a global address book that is automagically generated every night, > but we also need a way of automagically generating the .lu file. (or > getting pine to stop complaining about not finding the global .lu file) > Does anybody have a program to do that? Yes, pine. Type "pine -h" and you will see the option: -create_lu create .lu from script Seems to fit the bill....(or the Matt) :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10473; Tue, 10 Sep 96 17:46:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA19047 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:44:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA19042 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:44:08 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 11 Sep 96 08:49:06 +0800 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:40:59 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Col.Brewster" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine time question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Col.Brewster wrote: > I notice that when I use pine to read my email there is a number after the > time the message was sent. Example: > Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 06:18:46 -0700 > > What does the -0700 indicate? It is the GMT (or is it UTC these days???) offset. I live in Taiwan, therefore my Timezone is GMT+0800. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 18:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11957; Tue, 10 Sep 96 18:43:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA11281 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 18:40:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA11276 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 18:40:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0eEd-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 18:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Hutchinson Subject: Displaying of Attachments Behavior Change Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:15:43 -0400 Message-Id: <323612BF.469E561C@pfc.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently compiled and installed pine 3.95 on my linux Redhat system. The old (3.91) version was setup to view the horrid binhexed attachments that mac people send me, using external programs to unbinhex them and extract the text from the MSWord binary and simply output it to STDOUT. This caused it to be displayed nicely within the pine browser. [Aside: the mind boggles at the nonsense of all the processes that intervene when people try to use MSWord as some kind of "standard" for exchanging information, almost always simply text.] The new version does not display. I get a message about displaying attachments and a new one: "Viewer command launched" but nothing appears. Anyone know what gives? I had to reinstall 3.91 till I figure it out. Ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12080; Tue, 10 Sep 96 19:03:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA20135 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:01:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emerald.tufts.edu (emerald.tufts.edu [130.64.5.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA20130 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:01:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (dcole@localhost) by emerald.tufts.edu (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id WAA21791 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:01:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Denise Cole To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't know how this happened - somehow my INBOX is now 'readonly' and I don't what that. I have no idea why this happened suddenly. This change occurred after attempting to send a message to an invalid e-mail address. Any suggestions? Denise Cole (617) 623-2242 dcole@emerald.tufts.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13247; Tue, 10 Sep 96 20:52:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA21519 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:50:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA21514 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:50:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0gG3-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 20:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:21:48 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > You have access to a mail read with full headers: Pine! > > In the Setup screen, turn on "enable-full-header-command". Now, when > reading messages, the "H" command will work to toggle between full headers > and filtered headers. OK, I did that long since; but even when I have H turned on and forward junk to the spamfighters' list, I get complaints from better-informed subscribers that I haven't included enough headers for them to practice their arts upon. How do I get pine not just to *display* full headers, but to *pass them on* to my addressees?? TIA! R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03438; Tue, 10 Sep 96 21:35:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA22076 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:33:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id VAA22071 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:33:17 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA09861; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:33:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:33:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: rrne@loc.gov Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Help with spam (fwd) Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Beartooth", I have turned on Full Headers, and am forwarding your message back to you. As you can see, they are all included... -teg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for gray+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by tupperware.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01469; Tue, 10 Sep 96 20:53:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA21519 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:50:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA21514 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:50:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0gG3-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 20:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:21:48 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > You have access to a mail read with full headers: Pine! > > In the Setup screen, turn on "enable-full-header-command". Now, when > reading messages, the "H" command will work to toggle between full headers > and filtered headers. OK, I did that long since; but even when I have H turned on and forward junk to the spamfighters' list, I get complaints from better-informed subscribers that I haven't included enough headers for them to practice their arts upon. How do I get pine not just to *display* full headers, but to *pass them on* to my addressees?? TIA! R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13142; Tue, 10 Sep 96 21:37:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA13597 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:35:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA13592 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:35:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0gy6-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 21:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: Download from UNIX Shell to PC Date: 10 Sep 1996 15:49:58 GMT Message-Id: <5142n6$si0@dns.ktb.net> References: <50qrl9$nc9@dns.ktb.net> <511a10$3fs@star.epix.net> PattyB (Pattyb50@cris.com) wrote: | : | I am currently using PINE 3.95 thru a UNIX Shell and need help finding | : | the protocol for downloading from Folders to my PC via Zmodem transfer. | : | Using TELIX v3.21. For some reason, I am unable to locate the doc file | : | for my TELIX comm program. Help??? Thanks. Bev (bashley@ktb.net) wrote: | : The Zmodem command is usually sz to download and rz to upload: | : sz dnload.fil ;ought to do it. | : I use procomm/pcplus on my pc, which has a configuration option to | : automatically download when the host starts it. Telix probably has the | : same thing somewhere. DearOldDad (dad@epix.net) wrote: | OK, Patti, you can't directly download the contents of a (pine) folder. | You first have to save that stuff (e)xport it to a unix file, then | download the unix file from your server. Hope that makes sense? BYE Yes you can. I do it all the time. A pine folder is simply a single text file with a number of mail messages in it. My saved-mail folder is ~/mail/savemail and at the end of the month I rename it to savemail.aug or whatever and then sz savemail.aug from within the /mail subdirectory. Then I delete it on the unix system and start fresh in September. You can export if you want, but it just creates a duplicate file under a different name. Bev bashley@ktb.net oxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox Is there any way I can help without you know, really getting involved? -- Jennifer, WKRP From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13760; Tue, 10 Sep 96 21:37:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA22129 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:35:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA22124 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:35:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0gzA-00038TC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 21:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Saving in Pine Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:14:59 GMT Message-Id: <51442b$is1@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <511emp$lcd@news.fm.intel.com> <511vem$qkn@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <5124db$egk@due.unit.no> Right, right and right! Thanks for clarifying and simplifying. Saving the attachment is the way to go, though it does include a blank line at the start of the file. -Ram On 9 Sep 1996 22:06:35 GMT, oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) wrote: >In article <511vem$qkn@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, Ramanuj Basu wrote: >>If you enable the "print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt" option under your >>configuration, you can get what you want (assuming you're using Unix) by >>"printing" the e-mail message you're interested in using the custom print >>command: >> >> cat | tail +n > filename >> >>where n is the number of lines you want chopped off the top of the >>message (the headers plus the blank line above the message). At >>least, this is how I produce the file "filename" containing message >>text and no headers. >This sounds a bit complicated in two respects: first, you can use the >attachment menu as I explained in my other message. >Secondly, rather than printing to a custom command, you can use the >pipe command (|). >I don't know if there might be some differences in the final format >between the methods. >Oh, and thirdly, I think the "cat |" part is unnecessary. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13717; Tue, 10 Sep 96 21:37:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA13604 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:36:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA13599 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:35:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0h1M-00038VC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 21:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Timezone for Pc-Pine Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:21:36 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Hans Schleichert wrote: > Insert the following command into your PC's AUTOEXEC.BAT (or CONFIG.SYS, > if you're running DOS 6 or higher): > > SET TZ= > > where you replace by a 3-character timezone name, by the > timezone offset (like -7 or 5 for 7 hours behind or 5 hours ahead of GMT), > and by a 3-character abbreviation for daylight savings tiem zone. > > I believe PINE takes the offset wrong, so play with it until it works. Pine takes the offset the same way that the C library does. West of GMT is positive, east is negative. Not that this is the opposite of the way that RFC 822 works. The DOS default is PST8PDT for US west coast time, which happens to be where Microsoft is located...[it's where we're located too, but we didn't do it -- if we had we probably would have used GMT.] Whether or not this is "wrong" is, of course, a matter of opinion. What's important is that Pine does the same thing as all other PC software that follows Microsoft's conventions. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13955; Tue, 10 Sep 96 22:07:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA22524 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:05:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA22519 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:05:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0hSi-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 22:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: Replying Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:24:45 -0700 Message-Id: References: <32261B16.3E5F@norvell.com> <508nn2$l7o@star.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <508nn2$l7o@star.epix.net> On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > Chris Womack (cwomack@norvell.com) wrote: > : Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before > : the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor > : to appear after the quoted text? > : thanks, > : Chris > : cwomack@norvell.com > > RTFM or ? Heck, this seems like a good enough question to ask. If you don't have the patience to answer, why not just leave it alone? ----------------------------- O | Boy, I wish they put Cracker | o | Jax Prizes in Cheese Wiz!! | . ------------------------------ ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: http://ultra.infoseek.com ============================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13124; Tue, 10 Sep 96 22:07:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA13988 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:05:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA13983 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:05:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0hT8-00038TC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 22:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: mailing list Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:58:39 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Ted Chang wrote: > i have some extremely long mailing lists. whenever i send something out > on them, it is very annoying to the readers because they have to wade > through pages and pages of header addresses. is there any way for the > readers to simply see the title of the mailing list, without seeing every > single address, in pine? > > Try Bcc ----------------------------- O | Boy, I wish they put Cracker | o | Jax Prizes in Cheese Wiz!! | . ------------------------------ ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: http://ultra.infoseek.com ============================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13387; Tue, 10 Sep 96 22:17:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA22676 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:15:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA22671 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:15:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0hdp-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 22:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Problem Date: 10 Sep 1996 23:45:28 -0500 Message-Id: <515g58$5fc@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Denise Cole wrote: > I don't know how this happened - somehow my INBOX is now 'readonly' and I > don't what that. I have no idea why this happened suddenly. This change > occurred after attempting to send a message to an invalid e-mail address. > Any suggestions? Contact your local Help Desk and see if they've seen the problem before, and have any insight. There are two situations that I'm aware of that would cause pine to treat your inbox as readonly. 1) another pine process is accessing your inbox. Ask your help desk to help you search the process list of the machine you're on) and make sure that you don't have multiple copies of pine running. 2) you may have strange (garbage) characters in the headers of one of the messages in your inbox. This is especially likely being you're on an OSF machine (we've had this happen on one of our Digital Unix machines, and I've heard similar reports from administrators on other DU machines). You can ask your Help Desk or system administrator to search the headers in your inbox with a tool capable of spotting out of band characters. Something like `od -c' or `less' should work. Look for characters immediately preceding the `From ' that begins each new message in your inbox. You'll most likely find one or more octal 377 character on one of the headers, preceding the `From '. If you do find any out of band characters in your inbox, your sysadmin or Help Desk will have to delete them using an editor or other tool. Otherwise you can just mv your mail spool file to a new name, and a new spool file will be created for you. You can see the old messages in your old spool file with a program like `more' or `less'. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13554; Tue, 10 Sep 96 22:32:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA14321 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:30:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA14316 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:30:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0hs0-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 22:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oneill@jupiter.cs.uml.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill) Subject: 3.95 on Digital UNIX V3.2C Date: 10 Sep 1996 17:53:42 GMT Message-Id: <5149v6$loi@ulowell.uml.edu> I just compiled and installed pine under Digital UNIX V3.2C (a.k.a. OSF/1), but when I run it and compose a message under it, or when I reqeusted the document since it was a "new version", I get the message sendsig: can't grow stack, pid 14836, proc pine, sig 11, pc 0x120103d9c Any ideas why this is happening??? ====================================================================== Brian O'Neill - Director of Computing, Computer Science (508) 934-3645 University of Massachusetts at Lowell <*> oneill@cs.uml.edu "And the eighth deadly sin is PIZZA" - Jimmy Buffett, Bank of Bad Habits From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15044; Tue, 10 Sep 96 23:55:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA23906 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:51:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA23901 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:51:32 -0700 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA31089; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:51:24 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:51:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jean Schuller To: fangm@uvic.ca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: printing In-Reply-To: <199609102206.PAA118922@uvaix3e1.comp.UVic.CA> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Ming, Yes indeed you can, First, set your favorite printer using "S" Setup on the main menu, then choose the task P[Printer] and update the printer command you expect to use (someting like lpr -Pprinter_name if you are using UNIX).. After, when you are reading your mail, choose O (Other command) and Y (prYnt). Then pine will ask you "lpr -Pprinter_name "? [Yes] or [No].. the rest is in your hands ... Good luck Jean +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | | Batiment 22 | | | Boite Postale 28 CR | | | 23, Rue du Loess | | | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | | FRANCE | | +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ On Tue, 10 Sep 1996 fangm@UVic.CA wrote: > Is it possible to print my incoming mail messages from Pine. If yes, how do > I do that. Thanks in advance. > > Ming > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > @@@@@@@@@@@ > > Ming Fang E-mail address: > University of Victoria fangm@uvic.ca > (604) 472-2134 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15336; Wed, 11 Sep 96 00:44:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA24549 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:41:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA24535 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:40:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0jsB-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 00:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ernest@psg.com, Aleixandre@psg.com Control: cancel <514en4$a1e@fin.firstnations.ca> Subject: cmsg cancel <514en4$a1e@fin.firstnations.ca> Date: 10 Sep 96 19:56:55 GMT Message-Id: Article cancelled by news@service3.uky.edu. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18060; Wed, 11 Sep 96 01:04:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA24760 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:01:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA24755 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:01:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0kDt-00038UC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: JONATHAN GOODING Subject: Help for multiple emailings Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:52:47 +1000 Message-Id: References: <508o1f$3p8_002@fan.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <508o1f$3p8_002@fan.net.au> I have formed a club recently, with a few devoted subscribers.... How to I send them all the same letter, but without putting each name in individually....I am sure there is a way...as the bulk emails can do it...but how ? Can someone please help me ! Jon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15152; Wed, 11 Sep 96 01:04:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA16240 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:01:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA16232 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:00:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0kAA-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 00:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: A.Misron@ncs.nerc.ac.uk (Ahmad Faridzun Misron) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 13:31:39 GMT Message-Id: <51169q$ght@kwuz.nerc-keyworth.ac.uk> References: ness wrote: > I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and >fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here >over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it >came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably >nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with >that in the From: field? Run pine, press S for setup, and then C for config. Put the approriate address in the Reply-to: field From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 02:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06006; Wed, 11 Sep 96 02:58:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA17724 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 02:56:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA17719 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 02:56:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0lys-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 02:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Sign-on message Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:13:12 GMT Message-Id: <51502t$cns@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: Sounds to me like you have an invalid entry in your Pine configuration. From the Main Menu, hit S then C to configure Pine, then find the line that starts with "initial-keystroke-list." Hit D to delete the current value, then E to exit configuration and Y to save changes. On 10 Sep 1996 13:17:48 -0700, jtessner@seq.hamline.edu (John Tessner) wrote: >I have been getting a message which flashes for a second or two as I sign >on to PINE. >[Bad initial keystroke "" (no comma set?) >Does anyone know what this means? I asked our computer personnel here and >got no explanation. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14157; Wed, 11 Sep 96 03:03:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA26323 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:01:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA26312 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:01:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0m5N-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 02:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Sign-on message Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:51:11 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Sep 1996, John Tessner wrote: > I have been getting a message which flashes for a second or two as I sign > on to PINE. > > [Bad initial keystroke "" (no comma set?) > > Does anyone know what this means? I asked our computer personnel here and > got no explanation. Thanks. I ran into that when I was trying to set up initial keystroke sequences on my terminal communications program's "hot keys." I never could figure out what Pine was bellyaching about. Meaningless, vague, ambiguous, useless, or unhelpful error messages are the bane of computers. Pine Team? The ball's in your court. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16287; Wed, 11 Sep 96 03:31:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA26594 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:27:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calcit.but.auc.dk (calcit.but.auc.dk [130.225.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA26589 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:27:07 -0700 Received: from rubin.but.auc.dk (root@rubin.but.auc.dk [130.225.56.9]) by calcit.but.auc.dk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27256 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:27:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (34mads@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rubin.but.auc.dk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06223 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:27:02 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:27:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mads Ellemose Soerensen <34mads@but.auc.dk> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: question! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I get hold of messages i the mbox? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14997; Wed, 11 Sep 96 07:26:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA21171 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:22:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA21166 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:22:01 -0700 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA02097 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:22:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:21:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma To: Pine Mailing List Subject: pico -w doesn't work for me Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The -w option does not prevent word-wrap for me. Pico version is 2.9 Anyone else have this problem? This is under linux and NeXT (m68k). Is there a limit to the line-length even with the -w flag? TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11639; Wed, 11 Sep 96 07:37:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA21356 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:29:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cmu1.chiangmai.ac.th (cmu1.chiangmai.ac.th [192.203.247.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA21341 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:28:56 -0700 Received: by cmu1.chiangmai.ac.th (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19399; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:28:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:28:15 -0700 (GMT) From: Phakatip Nisaijarern To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir/Madam: I cannot save e-mails in sent-mail box and cannot read new mail from my friends,either. How should I do? Thank you for your time. Sincerely yours, Monchaya Ploylearmsang From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19817; Wed, 11 Sep 96 07:50:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA21876 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:46:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA21871 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:46:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0qYC-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 07:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reith Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 19:31:03 +0200 Message-Id: <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, > > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? > > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? I think there is a POP version of pine but I am not sure. However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- - email: (PGP Mail welcome. For public key look at my homepage. - - reith@maxwell.ping.de markus@majestix.fernuni-hagen.de - - Homepage: http://www.ping.de/sites/maxwell/ - - - - *** Check out my JAVA Developer's Page *** - - *** http://www.ping.de/sites/maxwell/links/JAVA/java.html *** - - - - Bye, Markus - -------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19961; Wed, 11 Sep 96 08:08:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA00731 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:05:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA00726 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:05:33 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA11568 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:05:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:05:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: hope for incremental Header Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, the insertion of a REPLY-To Field in the header seems to me to need a big dive into the docs, since the whole header must be constructed.... Is there any hope, that 1 the environment variable REPLYTO is tested and assimilated 2 the modification to the header could be done incrementaly? sort of merge... in the next pine versions? ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21849; Wed, 11 Sep 96 08:55:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA01923 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:51:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA01918 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:51:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0rVn-00038TC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 08:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Herb Parsons Subject: Re: Help for multiple emailings Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:26:05 -0700 Message-Id: <3236F62D.24D0@pharmacy.com> References: <508o1f$3p8_002@fan.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit JONATHAN GOODING wrote: > > I have formed a club recently, with a few devoted subscribers.... > > How to I send them all the same letter, but without putting each > name in individually....I am sure there is a way...as the bulk > emails can do it...but how ? > > Can someone please help me ! Use the distribution list feature. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22127; Wed, 11 Sep 96 08:57:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA01971 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:53:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA01966 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:53:48 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:49:24 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA15592; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:53:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:53:30 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Bruno Boettcher Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: hope for incremental Header In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Perhaps it is more appropriate for the System Manager in charge of installing and setting up Pine learn how to create the header (without a value) in Pine's systemwide configuration file? Users should then be able to find it and set a value in the Setup Configuration screen with little trouble. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > Hello, > > the insertion of a REPLY-To Field in the header seems to me to need a big > dive into the docs, since the whole header must be constructed.... > > Is there any hope, that > 1 the environment variable REPLYTO is tested and assimilated > 2 the modification to the header could be done incrementaly? sort of > merge... > > in the next pine versions? > > ciao > bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22098; Wed, 11 Sep 96 10:36:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA26463 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:32:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA26458 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:32:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0t6F-00038VC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 10:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: USENET NEWSGROUP Date: 6 Sep 1996 18:31:19 GMT Message-Id: <50pqln$q7c@due.unit.no> References: <9608068420.AA842024672@mailya.yakima.com> In article , Andrea Gonzales wrote: > >On Fri, 6 Sep 1996 msw@mailya.yakima.com wrote: > >> Andrea, try news.alterdial.uu.net. This seems to be one of the most >> complete news servers I have found. >> >> - Michael > >Thanks...I did but I get a message "400 host not recognized in the >autorization file. The explanation is probably this: yakima.com is a news client of UUnet, while deehoward.com is not: bash$ host -a deehoward.com deehoward.com NS DHC1.deehoward.com deehoward.com NS NS2.TEXAS.NET bash$ host -a yakima.com yakima.com NS NS.UU.NET yakima.com NS UUCP-GW-1.PA.DEC.COM yakima.com NS UUCP-GW-2.PA.DEC.COM Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25518; Wed, 11 Sep 96 10:44:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA05101 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:42:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA05096 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:42:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0tEF-00038TC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 10:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rzy@dasc.nl (Rudy Zijlstra) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Message-Id: References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> <510dvl$3e9@itw.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:14:05 GMT Javier Iglesias writes: >On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, reith wrote: >> Hello, >> >> > >> > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? >> > >> > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? >> >> I think there is a POP version of pine but I am not sure. >> However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP. >Yes.. I know about Netscape.. but sometimes I have to telnet from a >remote location that only has terminal capabilities.. so I can only run >pine.. but I'l check into the pop version of pine.. or maybe someone else >can tell me about a good poper for linux?? I am using Netscape when running X and elm when logging into through telnet. I've set them up to use the same folders. The result is that i can use them intermixed (not at the same time of course) without losing any mail messages. Rudy #include This might not be the view of my employer. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17717; Wed, 11 Sep 96 11:32:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA28061 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:27:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA28048 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:27:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0txU-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 11:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Markolf Gudjons Subject: Re: newsrc file for multiple nntp servers Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:46:21 +0200 Message-Id: <32366E4C.C93@eed.ericsson.se> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrea Gonzales wrote: > How do you create a news receive file for each nntp server? Good question. Or is there another way to subscribe to different newsgroups on different NNTP servers? -- Markolf Gudjons, Local System Administrator, EED/I _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Ericsson Eurolab Deutschland _/ _/ _/ _/ Ericsson-Allee 1, D-52134 Herzogenrath _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Germany (PGP key available) _/ _/ _/ _/ email: eedmgu@eed.ericsson.se _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ phone: +49 2407 575-665 | fax: -150 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26949; Wed, 11 Sep 96 11:58:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA07103 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:52:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from virginia.edu (mars.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA07095 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:52:04 -0700 Received: from watt.seas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa24541; 11 Sep 96 14:50 EDT Received: from localhost (rds3y@localhost) by watt.seas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA37552 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:49:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "R.D. Schroedter, III" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Separating incoming mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a method for separating incoming mail by the To: header. I am on a couple of mailing lists and I would like to separate the mail from each list so that it is received into its own folder. If anyone can help with this please email me directly at rds3y@virginia.edu. Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28633; Wed, 11 Sep 96 13:56:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA10235 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:52:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA10230 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:52:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0wGa-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 13:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Automatic purging of dated messages Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:40:03 GMT Message-Id: <514n3q$560@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: I don't know the answer to your second question, but I, too, got annoyed with Pine's insistence on moving files at the start of each month. You can postpone (but apparently not turn off) this behavior by manually editing your .pinerc file (I use pico to do this). Near the bottom of the file .pinerc (below the line that says "## Set within or by Pine: No need to edit below this line ##") is a line that starts out with "last-time-prune-questioned=" and you'll see that the value is year:month. I've set mine to 99.12 so I won't be bothered until the year 2000. On 10 Sep 1996 09:14:33 -0700, jwbritto@midway.uchicago.edu (Joe Britton) wrote: >Is there a way to keep Pine from automatically asking me if I wish to >delete messages I've saved from months past. At the beginning of each >month I am asked if I'd like to delete this old mail. On several >occasions I have inadvertantly replied "yes" and lost important archives. >BTW I've checked for a setup option to turn off this pine 'feature'. >Also, is it possible to perform a search of all mail folders at once >instead of sequentially? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24018; Wed, 11 Sep 96 14:20:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA02452 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:17:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA02446 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:17:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0wc4-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 14:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jluther@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu (Jason Luther) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:44:18 -0600 Message-Id: References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> <510dvl$3e9@itw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article , rzy@dasc.nl (Rudy Zijlstra) wrote: > Javier Iglesias writes: > > >On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, reith wrote: > > >> Hello, > >> > >> > > >> > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? > >> > > >> > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? > >> > >> I think there is a POP version of pine but I am not sure. > >> However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP. To get my mail from my service provider to my linux box, i use this short script that runs popclient. #!/bin/sh popclient -3 -k -u username -p password -o /var/spool/mail/username service.provider.com This works well for me. Try 'man popclient'. -jason From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32619; Wed, 11 Sep 96 14:57:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA03490 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:53:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA03485 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:53:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0xCQ-00038TC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 14:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Yvan Guillemain Subject: Redefining Keys? Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:44:16 +0200 Message-Id: <32369800.41C67EA6@eritel.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, I am using pine in an unix environment. I would like to have for example the "Page down" and "Page Up" keys to act as "+" and "-" (when reading mail), i.e scroll down/up. Is there anyway I can do this? Thank you, \yvan PS: Reply to myself (yvan@eritel.se) as well as to the newsgroup, please. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32165; Wed, 11 Sep 96 15:15:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA12550 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:11:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA12545 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:11:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA04141; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:11:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:11:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Georg Schwarz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: <4vv379$qpp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1223463917-842479882=:2798" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1223463917-842479882=:2798 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 27 Aug 1996, Georg Schwarz wrote: > Can I configure pine to automatically include a '--' =B4line before the > signature (if there is one) short of explicitly including the '--' line > into my signature file?` >=20 The attached script, configured as a sending-filter, will insert your signature, preceded by a "-- " line, wherever you specify a pre-determined token. Here's how to use it, 1. save the script in ~/bin/addsig (or whever you keep scripts);=20 Make sure it is executable.=20 2. In the Setup/Config screen, add a sending-filter like =09sending-filters =3D ~/bin/addsig token where "token" is a string that prefixes a signature, e.g. --DLM 3. Delete the entry in "signature-file" 4. (opional) Select the compose-send-offers-first-filter feature 5. When you compose a message, include a line beginning with whatever token you configured in 2. Now your signature will be after the token. If you don't want the token included in the output, change the first line of the gawk script from =09=09=09{ to =09$1 !=3D token=09{ --DLM --=20 |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA --0-1223463917-842479882=:2798 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=addsig Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: addsig script IyEvYmluL3NoDQojDQojIA0KL3Vzci9sb2NhbC9iaW4vZ2F3ayAtdiB0b2tl bj0kMSAnDQoJCXsgDQoJCXByaW50DQoJCX0NCiQxID09IHRva2VuCXsNCgkJ cHJpbnRmICJcbi0tIFxuIg0KCQlzaWcgPSBFTlZJUk9OWyJIT01FIl0gIi8u c2lnbmF0dXJlIg0KCQl3aGlsZSAoZ2V0bGluZSA8IHNpZykgcHJpbnQNCgkJ Y2xvc2Uoc2lnKQ0KCQl9DQonDQo= --0-1223463917-842479882=:2798-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01552; Wed, 11 Sep 96 15:59:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA05105 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:55:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com (intfw.bear.com [206.25.172.66]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA05100 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:55:42 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16334; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:55:36 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma015560; Wed Sep 11 18:48:56 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA19439; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:51:51 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA21223; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:49:34 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA05365; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:49:05 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19497; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:49:03 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA15384; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:49:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:49:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: reith Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. In-Reply-To: <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, reith wrote: > Hello, > > > > > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? > > > > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? > > I think there is a POP version of pine but I am not sure. > However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP. > Most linux distributions come with a utility called popclient. I know Debian linux 1.1 does. Try "man popclient" for help. Outside of that, you can try naming a folder collection with standard syntax + /pop3 to denote the protocol in pine and it should retrieve the messages. I'm not sure if it deletes them from the POP server though. Good luck Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02002; Wed, 11 Sep 96 16:10:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA05533 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:07:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA05528 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:07:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0yJg-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 16:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Sign-on message Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:20:54 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: {posted and mailed} On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: > In setup/configuration, see what' set under "initial-key-stroke". I put an > "i" in there to open up my inbox upon opening pine. If you delete anything > that's set under that, you shouldn't get that error message. > > On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: [omitted] Thanks for responding. However, I was trying to do something a little more exotic than just just open my inbox, which I can already do with an initial keystroke sequence on the command line (invoked with a "hot key"). I deliberately avoid putting initial keystroke sequences in my configuration simply because sometimes I want to start Pine with different parameters at different times. That's why I put the different sequences for starting Pine on hot keys, and it was in trying to develop the "exotic" startups that I encountered the cryptic and unhelpful error message that the original poster did. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02174; Wed, 11 Sep 96 16:19:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA14144 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:17:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA14139 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:17:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0yTS-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 16:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gondi@convex.com (Prathibha Tammana) Subject: books on pine Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:20:31 GMT Message-Id: <516hrf$pqq@news.rsn.hp.com> Hi! Can anyone suggest some book titles on pine? I looked at the local book store but couldn't find any. Thanks, Prathibha -- ~~~~~~~~``````~~~~~~~~~~``````~~~~~~~~~~``````~~~~~~~~~~``````~~~~~~~~~~`````` Prathibha Tammana gondi@rsn.hp.com Hewlett-Packard Company, Convex Division Systems SW Test Engr (214)/T 497 4747 ~~~~~~~~``````~~~~~~~~~~``````~~~~~~~~~~``````~~~~~~~~~~``````~~~~~~~~~~`````` From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02305; Wed, 11 Sep 96 16:24:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA05850 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:22:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA05845 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:22:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0yaj-00038TC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 16:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:54:13 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Sep 1996, Scott Buntin wrote: > I'm running 3.90 - I do have an incoming-folders options, but it's blank. > I *think* it's only useful if your mail comes in multiple folders on the > POP server, or if you run procmail, or some such. > > I do, however, have the following in my .pinerc - > > inbox-path={pop.calweb.com}/var/spool/mail/sbuntin > The above tells Pine to use IMAP, not POP to access the folder. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01856; Wed, 11 Sep 96 16:39:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA14788 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:37:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA14783 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:37:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0ymi-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 16:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Wayne R. Chase" Subject: defer or send it tomorrow Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:07:20 -0700 Message-Id: <32374628.54FD@pcc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I defer or send a message on a later date. I want the message to be sent next Monday. Thanx From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25579; Wed, 11 Sep 96 17:07:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA06816 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:02:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netshop.net (ghost.magmacom.com [204.174.70.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA06811 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:02:24 -0700 Received: from dwyer.netshop.net. (kamloops-15.netshop.net [204.174.70.32]) by netshop.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA16568 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:02:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:02:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199609120002.RAA16568@netshop.net> X-Sender: dwyer@mail.netshop.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwyer Subject: pine TO WHOMB IT MAY CONCERN, RE: " INFORMATION YOU REQUESTED " COULD YOU ADVISE HOW I REQUESTED THIS INFORMATION AND WHEN . I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ITS ABOUT AND WHERE IT CAME FROM . I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW IF I`M TO BE BILLED OR IF ITS FREE . DWYER From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03602; Wed, 11 Sep 96 17:21:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA07150 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:17:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA07145 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:17:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0zQc-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 17:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billt@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Billt) Subject: spaced out Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:24:01 -0500 Message-Id: <5173kh$1o5@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Don't know how to email this guy, he says his format is john doe@my.com , note the space between john and doe. Pine won't let me put a space there and johndoe@my.com doe not work. Am I doing something wrong? Please Email me From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03650; Wed, 11 Sep 96 17:40:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA07482 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:35:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA07477 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:35:42 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 12 Sep 96 08:40:41 +0800 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:32:33 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: dwyer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: <199609120002.RAA16568@netshop.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, dwyer wrote: > TO WHOMB IT MAY CONCERN, > RE: " INFORMATION YOU REQUESTED " > COULD YOU ADVISE HOW I REQUESTED THIS INFORMATION AND WHEN . I > HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ITS ABOUT AND WHERE IT CAME FROM . I WOULD ALSO > LIKE TO KNOW IF I`M TO BE BILLED OR IF ITS FREE . > DWYER Some items of note: 1. It is considered rude to use all upper-case in emails. It is taken to represent SHOUTING. 2. If you used pine for the first time recently, then you are prompted if you'd like to receive additonal documentation. Prehaps you answered "yes" and didn't notice? 3. You will *not* be billed by washington.edu for the document. If your ISP bills you for traffic and/or messages received then they may bill you. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04332; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:22:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA08097 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:17:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA08092 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:17:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v10N0-00038VC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Subject: Pine can't find user-domain? Date: 9 Sep 1996 16:32:23 GMT Message-Id: <511gqn$435@nntp.Stanford.EDU> After a recent software system upgrade, pine began to report errors on startup, namely: > Incomplete maildomain "plato". > Return address in mail you send may be incorrect. "plato" is the name of the hostmachine and the domain is stanford.edu. Since pine doesn't yield these errors on one of our other machines, with the same system software, I suspect there is a corrupt system file somewhere. We are using NeXTSTEP3.3 and the precompiled version of pine (pine-bin.next.Z) from the archive on ftp.cac.washington.edu. Adding the line "user-domain=stanford.edu" doesn't seem to help; pine then appends the return addres "user@stanford.edu" rather than "user@plato.stanford.edu". But adding "user-domain=plato.stanford.edu" yields the correct return address. However, we haven't had to add this file on our other system using the same system software. Does anyone know where pine looks for the domain name on unix systems? I am sure it can find the hostname "plato" from /etc/hostconfig. But where does it get the rest of the domain name? Thanks for your help. Ed --- Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01236; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:22:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA16615 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:17:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA16610 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:17:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v10M7-00038UC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abodas@pcocd2.intel.com (Amit Bodas - PCD ~) Subject: Saving in Pine Date: 9 Sep 1996 15:56:09 GMT Message-Id: <511emp$lcd@news.fm.intel.com> Is there a way to save an email in Pine without the mail header ? Thanks -- --Amit Intel Corporation From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04406; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:27:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA16684 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:22:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA16679 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:22:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v10T5-00038UC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaearick@colby.edu (Jeff A. Earickson) Subject: Pine planning to use autoconf? Date: 9 Sep 1996 16:37:05 GMT Message-Id: <511h3h$qvf@host-04.colby.edu> Yo Pine-Central, Any plans to distribute UNIX pine with a GNU autoconf/configure script in future releases, instead of the "build xxx" form used now? I sure would like to see it. I didn't see any mention of this topic anywhere in the FAQ. -- ** Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D PHONE: 207-872-3659 ** Senior UNIX Sysadmin, Information Technology EMAIL: jaearick@colby.edu ** Colby College, 4214 Mayflower Hill, FAX: 207-872-3555 ** Waterville ME, 04901-8842 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Theological Seminary -- a college where you only have to buy one book, and if they catch you cheating on the exams, hey, you're forgiven! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04118; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:37:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA08302 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:32:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA08297 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:32:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v10cG-00038TC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 18:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brianbhc@aol.com (Brianbhc) Subject: Lost Mail Date: 11 Sep 1996 21:18:05 -0400 Message-Id: <517ocd$47l@newsbf02.news.aol.com> After installing 3.95, but still during the configuring of Pine some users used the program before it knew what to do with the files. We send our mail to our ISP via UUCP. So generally when mail is in queue for delivery it's stored in: /usr/spool/uucp/sover But for those 24 -30 hours nothing. Any thoughts on where the files (mail) could be?? Brian bman@bh-on-lc.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05089; Wed, 11 Sep 96 19:40:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA09062 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:38:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA09057 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:38:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v11Wo-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 19:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Hall Family Subject: Automaticall Forward Mail...HOW??? Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:03:08 -0700 Message-Id: <3237998C.2E3A@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an account at school (York College) and they use Pine (latest version). I am very new to the program and need some help. I would like to set it up to automatically forward any incoming mail to another account. How can I do this? Thanks so much in advacne. Justin Hall PLEASE Reply VIA E-Mail mailto:hall@worldnet.att.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05165; Wed, 11 Sep 96 20:25:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA09603 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:23:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA09598 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:23:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v12Ip-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 20:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edelstein@crd.ge.com (William Edelstein) Subject: EMACS AS ALTERNATE EDITOR? Date: 11 Sep 1996 20:51:29 GMT Message-Id: I have tried to use EMACS as the alternative editor. When I hit ^_ , the screen blinks momentarily and then gives me the message "Alternative editor abnormally terminated (255)". Any suggestions? -- William A. Edelstein GE Corporate R&D Schenectady, NY 12309 edelstein@crd.ge.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05628; Wed, 11 Sep 96 20:28:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA18352 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:26:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA18347 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:26:14 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 12 Sep 96 11:31:18 +0800 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:23:10 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: The Hall Family Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automaticall Forward Mail...HOW??? In-Reply-To: <3237998C.2E3A@worldnet.att.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, The Hall Family wrote: > I have an account at school (York College) > and they use Pine (latest version). I am > very new to the program and need some help. > > I would like to set it up to automatically > forward any incoming mail to another account. > How can I do this? > > Thanks so much in advacne. Guessing you have a shell account....on a U*IX box running sendmail.... Create a file called .forward in your home directory (making sure it is world-readable) containing the address of the alternate mail account, e.g. other@foo.bar.com. For more information concerning the features of the .forward file you can try consulting "man sendmail" or "man forward". Your milage will vary depending on your system.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05607; Wed, 11 Sep 96 20:30:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA09682 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:28:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA09677 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:28:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v12NU-00038TC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 20:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:26:24 GMT -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01521; Wed, 11 Sep 96 20:30:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA18380 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:28:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA18375 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:28:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v12NM-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 20:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:40:15 GMT -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05376; Wed, 11 Sep 96 21:05:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA18806 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:03:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA18801 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:03:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v12v2-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 20:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 9 Sep 1996 17:23:10 GMT Message-Id: References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> <510dvl$3e9@itw.com> On Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:39:23 -0400, Javier Iglesias wrote: >Yes.. I know about Netscape.. but sometimes I have to telnet from a >remote location that only has terminal capabilities.. so I can only run >pine.. but I'l check into the pop version of pine.. or maybe someone else >can tell me about a good poper for linux?? Standard Unix Pine with no modifications can access pop3 mailboxes. The syntax in .pinerc is .... incoming-folders={pop3-host.domain/pop3}Label For instance I have used ..... incoming-folders={facstaff.wisc.edu/pop3}FacStaff Mail where facstaff.wisc.edu is the pop3 host, and "FacStaff Mail" was the label I picked for that mailbox. Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05924; Wed, 11 Sep 96 22:35:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA11388 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:33:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA11383 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:33:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v14Kf-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 22:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Tester <94024831@mit.csu.edu.au> Subject: Re: Pine for Linux Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 02:19:17 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: References: <32337697.73C4@uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32337697.73C4@uc.edu> On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Elizabeth Hamilton wrote: > Are there Linux ports of Pine and Pico? If so, where can I obtain them? there certainly are! Which Linux distribution have got? I thought pine and pico where standard on just about most. try the Pine home page - http://www.washington.edu/pine/ 8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------ Ian Tester, *8)# 94024831@postoffice.csu.edu.au http://athene.mit.csu.edu.au/~94024831 -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS d--(dpu) s:+ a--- C++++ US++(UL++++) P L+++>+++++ E---- W++>+++ N+++ w--- V-- PS+ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+>+++ 5 X++ R* tv++ b D++ G e>++ h! r* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ PGP public key available via finger or key server (KeyID 565DD731) Caffeine not found, programmer aborted. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06707; Wed, 11 Sep 96 22:36:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA20125 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:33:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA20120 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:33:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v14Lv-00038TC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 22:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Redefining Keys? Date: 12 Sep 1996 00:08:32 GMT Message-Id: <517ka0$eti@due.unit.no> References: <32369800.41C67EA6@eritel.se> In article <32369800.41C67EA6@eritel.se>, Yvan Guillemain wrote: >Hello everyone, > >I am using pine in an unix environment. >I would like to have for example the "Page down" and "Page Up" keys to >act as "+" and "-" (when reading mail), i.e scroll down/up. >Is there anyway I can do this? Not from within pine, but since you appear to be using X: If you are starting pine with the command xterm -e pine & you might be able to define X resources specifically for the pine window. The syntax appears to be something like (In your X resource file, which on my account is .Xdefaults) pine*Translations: Down: string("+") \n Up: string("-") I have not tested it though, so if it doesn't quite work check out the xterm and xmodmap manual pages. You can also use xmodmap by itself to do key remappings. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07241; Wed, 11 Sep 96 23:00:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA11697 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:58:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA11692 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:58:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v14kg-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 22:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kenneth A. Johnson" Subject: Kill File Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:33:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can you use pine to set up a kill file? I know it will filter To: and From:. How do you do it? I am using Pine 3.90. Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup? Where is it? _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ ( )/ ) ( __) ( \( ) ( \( ) ( \/ ) "Most men live lives of quiet ) ( ) _) ) ( ) ( \ / desperation." H. D. Thoreau (_)\_) (____) (_)\_) (_)\_) (__) kajohnso@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 00:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21889; Thu, 12 Sep 96 00:06:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA21327 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 00:03:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA21322 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 00:03:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v15kk-00038BC; Wed, 11 Sep 96 23:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Configure news collections Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:08:27 -0700 Message-Id: References: <50mlu4$hl4@vivaldi.belnet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50mlu4$hl4@vivaldi.belnet.be> On 5 Sep 1996, Coolens Hugo wrote: > I am trying to configure my pine news collections setup, however the syntax I > have to use is a mystery to me. > I already figured out that the following works: > *{news.belnet.be/nntp}[sci.electronics.design} > But I want to have other groups in the same collection, e.g. comp.sys.atari.st > How should I do this? > You will almost always get what you want if you set the nntp-server variable and clear the news-collections variable in the Setup/Config screen, e.g. nntp-server=news.belnet.be news-collections= Pine will then set news-collections to an appropriate default, which is approximately news-collections=*{news.belnet.be/nntp}[*] --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32085; Thu, 12 Sep 96 01:11:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA13310 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:08:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA13303 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:08:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v16ml-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 01:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: A way of adding extra headers? Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 18:42:29 GMT Message-Id: <511oar$qkn@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: Yes. From the Main Menu choose "S" for Setup and "C" for Configuration, then find the "customized-hdrs" section. Add your "Approved:" header (with an optional default value). To access this header when composing a message, hit CTRL-R (for Rich Headers) while in any header field. To have this header shown and accessible for every message you send, edit the "default-composer-hdrs" section in your configuration to include this *and all other* headers you want to show for every message (To:, Subject:, etc.). -Ram Basu -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:07:09 +0200, Henrik Johansson wrote: >Is there a way of having pine add an extra header in an e-mail and/or >usenet article. I looking for an easy way of adding the Approved: header >for moderating a mailing list. Perhaps there is a better way than using >Pine though, I don't know. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08494; Thu, 12 Sep 96 01:36:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA22532 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:33:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA22527 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:33:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v17Ba-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 01:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Managing Unix message folders with Windows Pine Date: 9 Sep 1996 14:53:16 -0400 Message-Id: I've got tons of Unix message folders that are gzipped on my Unix hosts. I'm downloading them to my Windows machine and gunzipping them and using Pine to read, reply-to, and reorganize them. When I open up these folders they are READONLY so I can't delete messages and they don't flag messages that I answer. One way to solve this problem is to select all messages in a folder and then save them all to a new folder (using `; a a s folder.new'). Then folder.new is not READONLY. What I'm wondering is if anyone has any suggestions for ways to speed up this process of turning my Unix folders into read/writable Windows folders. Does anyone have any scripts or conversion tools to do this? Also, I'm thinking that it might be better to use some other folder format, e.g., MH format, so if you have suggestions in this area, please let me know. Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08501; Thu, 12 Sep 96 01:40:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA22607 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:37:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA22602 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:37:52 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:33:31 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) for id JAA04777; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:37:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:37:38 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Automatic purging of dated messages In-Reply-To: <514n3q$560@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Perhaps things could do with clarifying a little here? ... Pine only offers to rename (and delete old versions of): * The "default-fcc" folder (used to automatically keep copies of messages you send; * Any folders listed in the "pruned-folders" configuration variable. The periodic changing of the former is definitely sensible, to prevent it accumulating indefinitely. (I speak from experience:-) [I trust you're not using the "sent-mail" folder for saving messages you receive from others?] The latter only occurs if you explicitly set it up. So I presume you're disliking the pruning of the sent-mail folder? If so, then you can certainly fool Pine into not pruning by setting the "last-time-prune-questioned" appropriately (this will, presumably, affect pruning of "pruned-folders" too). However a better way of working might be to set up an entry in your Address Book for people you correspond with regularly along with an fcc for the entry. This will override the default-fcc, and save any message sent to to this recipient (as the first-named person in the "To:" field) into the nominated folder directly (instead of the default "sent-mail"). Any other messages you send will get filed into the "sent-mail" folder (courtesy of the "default-fcc" variable), which would then grow indefinitely. The monthly rotation of this folder helps serve as a reminder that perhaps it is time for you to sort through the old "sent-mail" folder(s) and delete any message copies you don't need any longer (most of them, in my case, after a month or so!). The remainder can be re-saved to more relevant folders or back into the (current) sent-mail folder. Just a thought... Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Ramanuj Basu wrote: > I don't know the answer to your second question, but I, too, got annoyed with > Pine's insistence on moving files at the start of each month. You can postpone > (but apparently not turn off) this behavior by manually editing your .pinerc > file (I use pico to do this). > > Near the bottom of the file .pinerc (below the line that says "## Set within or > by Pine: No need to edit below this line ##") is a line that starts out with > "last-time-prune-questioned=" and you'll see that the value is year:month. I've > set mine to 99.12 so I won't be bothered until the year 2000. > > On 10 Sep 1996 09:14:33 -0700, jwbritto@midway.uchicago.edu (Joe Britton) wrote: > > >Is there a way to keep Pine from automatically asking me if I wish to > >delete messages I've saved from months past. At the beginning of each > >month I am asked if I'd like to delete this old mail. On several > >occasions I have inadvertantly replied "yes" and lost important archives. > >BTW I've checked for a setup option to turn off this pine 'feature'. > > >Also, is it possible to perform a search of all mail folders at once > >instead of sequentially? > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08585; Thu, 12 Sep 96 01:51:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA13795 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:49:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA13790 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:49:45 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:45:28 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06174; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:49:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:49:37 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Wayne R. Chase" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: defer or send it tomorrow In-Reply-To: <32374628.54FD@pcc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" You cannot get Pine to do this automatically. However you can do it semi-manually... 1. Start composing your message now and get it all ready. 2. DON'T type ^X (which would send the message immediately) but instead type ^O (Postpone). This writes your still-being-worked-on message to a special folder. Note: You can have several postponed several messages at a time, not just one. Whenever you use the "C" (Compose) command Pine checks if there are any messages in the special postponed messages folder and, if so, offers you the chance to resume editing it. So... 3. At a later date give the "C" (Compose) command and resume editing your postponed message. 4. Make any last minute changes that are needed. 5. Send it by typing ^X (or cancel it with ^C, or postpone it again with ^O). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Wayne R. Chase wrote: > How do I defer or send a message on a later date. I want the message to > be sent next Monday. Thanx > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08224; Thu, 12 Sep 96 01:57:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA13838 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:53:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA13833 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:53:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v17T9-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 01:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: Sign-on message Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:37:12 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: In setup/configuration, see what' set under "initial-key-stroke". I put an "i" in there to open up my inbox upon opening pine. If you delete anything that's set under that, you shouldn't get that error message. On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 10 Sep 1996, John Tessner wrote: > > > I have been getting a message which flashes for a second or two as I sign > > on to PINE. > > > > [Bad initial keystroke "" (no comma set?) > > > > Does anyone know what this means? I asked our computer personnel here and > > got no explanation. Thanks. > > I ran into that when I was trying to set up initial keystroke > sequences on my terminal communications program's "hot keys." I never > could figure out what Pine was bellyaching about. Meaningless, vague, > ambiguous, useless, or unhelpful error messages are the bane of > computers. Pine Team? The ball's in your court. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > > ----------------------------- O | Boy, I wish they put Cracker | o | Jax Prizes in Cheese Wiz!! | . ----------------------------- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: http://ultra.infoseek.com ============================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 03:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09169; Thu, 12 Sep 96 03:01:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA23458 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 02:58:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA23453 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 02:58:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v18Wx-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 02:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pprice@panix.com (CodeQueen) Subject: References: header in 3.94 Date: 6 Sep 1996 17:42:09 -0400 Message-Id: <50q5rh$e22@panix2.panix.com> I can't seem to add the References: header to the set of headers in Pine 3.94. I have successfully added other headers, including custom headers. The References: header seems to be ignored by pine. This header needs to be set by hand to follow-on while posting to news through a mail2news gateway. Any suggestions? Pauli pprice@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 03:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06853; Thu, 12 Sep 96 03:46:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA14979 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 03:43:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gatekeeper.postoffice.co.uk (gatekeeper.postoffice.co.uk [194.129.187.66]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA14973 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 03:43:30 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gatekeeper.postoffice.co.uk (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA19008 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:26:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from unknown(194.129.187.130) by gatekeeper.postoffice.co.uk via smap (g3.0.1) id sma018975; Thu, 12 Sep 96 11:26:16 +0100 Received: from itmo7183 ([144.87.88.254]) by postoffice.co.uk (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA07151 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:43:12 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199609121043.LAA07151@postoffice.co.uk> X-Sender: eltonm@[144.87.82.82] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:44:20 +0100 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Elton Subject: mail2news >This header needs to be set by hand to follow-on while posting to news >through a mail2news gateway. Any suggestions? On a related subject, can someone give me some addresses for publically accessible mail2news gateways. Thanks, Matt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30315; Thu, 12 Sep 96 04:14:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA15233 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:04:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA15226 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:04:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v19Xl-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 04:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae@is.dal.ca (Aidan Evans) Subject: Re: 3.95 on AIX 414 Date: 9 Sep 1996 20:08:56 GMT Message-Id: <511tgo$hg3@News.Dal.Ca> References: <50nhl0$1i8q@news.missouri.edu> Steve Meyer (steve@oseda.missouri.edu) wrote: > We put pine 3.95 up on our AIX 4.1.4 box and it intermittently >hangs when doing either a compose or a reply. Backing off to 3.91 >still works great, except for posting a bug report to cac washington, >whose robot said they wouldn't talk to us 'til we installed 3.95, >which hangs when we compose. Uh-oh, I'm circular... > Anyone else 'hanging' with 3.95 and AIX 4.1.4? Working? P.S. I have just read the other articles on this topic, including the one in which a solution was found. I have had reports of other programs than Pine hanging too, though neither Pine nor anything else has ever hung for me. I guess I'll continue with the AIX changes anyway, but it's good to know there's an alternative if/when the problem does not go away. Aidan Evans | AE@AC.Dal.CA | Computer Facilities & Operations | 494-3332 | University Computing & Information Services | Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S., Canada From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 05:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09910; Thu, 12 Sep 96 05:43:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA25537 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 05:39:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA25532 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 05:39:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1B22-00038TC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 05:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: will@command.com.inter.net (Will Spencer) Subject: Re: UNIX PINE3.95, AIX4.1.x freeze up ... Date: 9 Sep 1996 14:25:16 -0000 Message-Id: References: <50o0ur$3uvc@mirac.unm.edu> <50pi0e$5e4@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> This problem also occurs with Pine 3.95 under FreeBSD 2.2-SNAP-960801. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 06:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08968; Thu, 12 Sep 96 06:03:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA16639 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 05:59:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA16634 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 05:59:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1BL4-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 05:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Saving in Pine Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 20:44:04 GMT Message-Id: <511vem$qkn@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <511emp$lcd@news.fm.intel.com> If you enable the "print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt" option under your configuration, you can get what you want (assuming you're using Unix) by "printing" the e-mail message you're interested in using the custom print command: cat | tail +n > filename where n is the number of lines you want chopped off the top of the message (the headers plus the blank line above the message). At least, this is how I produce the file "filename" containing message text and no headers. -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 9 Sep 1996 15:56:09 GMT, abodas@pcocd2.intel.com (Amit Bodas - PCD ~) wrote: >Is there a way to save an email in Pine without the mail header ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08859; Thu, 12 Sep 96 06:18:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA16842 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 06:15:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA16833 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 06:14:57 -0700 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA17268 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:13:55 +0200 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17875; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:14:03 +0400 (MDT) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:14:09 +0400 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configure news collections In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > On 5 Sep 1996, Coolens Hugo wrote: > > > I am trying to configure my pine news collections setup, however the syntax I > > have to use is a mystery to me. > > I already figured out that the following works: > > *{news.belnet.be/nntp}[sci.electronics.design} > > But I want to have other groups in the same collection, e.g. comp.sys.atari.st > > How should I do this? > > > > You will almost always get what you want if you set the nntp-server > variable and clear the news-collections variable in the Setup/Config > screen, e.g. > > nntp-server=news.belnet.be > news-collections= > > Pine will then set news-collections to an appropriate default, which > is approximately > > news-collections=*{news.belnet.be/nntp}[*] > The question was slightly different. What should I do, if I want sci.electronics.design *and* comp.sys.atari.st in *one* collection? If I define collection as {news.host}comp.[], there is no way to put also sci.something in there; and if I define collection as {news.host}[], then *all* groups will be in that collection - not very handy. I already aske the same question - how can I make alt.security.pgp *and* comp.security.pgp.[] appear as *one* collection? Without any other group form comp.[] or alt.[] appearing there also? I have several dozens groups defined splitted between different collection - but I would like to keep logically related groups together. Currently it is just not possible. Any idea? greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12387; Thu, 12 Sep 96 08:15:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA18499 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:07:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA18494 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:07:19 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp5.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp5.UU.NET [192.48.96.36]) id QQbgwa16589; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp5.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:07:18 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA842540150 Thu, 12 Sep 96 07:55:50 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 07:55:50 Message-Id: <9608128425.AA842540150@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Address books I am installing Pine v3.95 under AIX/UNIX v3.2.5 and am trying to create a global address book of our users. If I use the UNIX "vi" editor to look at the .addressbook file I create inside of Pine, the file contains the following characters: nickname TAB username TAB address NEWLINE where "TAB" is the tab key, and NEWLINE is the end of the entry. However, if I create this same file by hand in the "vi" editor, or if I build it from an existing list of users, the .addressbook does NOT function the same way. Pine refuses to properly call up a given user if that username is defined in the "manually-created" method. What happens inside of Pine when I select one of these addresses is that the Pine screen simply redisplays without having called up the address into the "TO:" field. Am I missing something? Why won't Pine accept an addressbook file that I have created myself outside of Pine? - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14493; Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:28:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA20419 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:24:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA20408 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:24:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA28871 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:24:34 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:24:33 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Pine email discussion group Subject: Re: Address books In-Reply-To: <9608128425.AA842540150@mailya.yakima.com> Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 msw@mailya.yakima.com wrote: > If I use the UNIX "vi" editor to look at the .addressbook file I=20 > create inside of Pine, the file contains the following characters: > nickname TAB username TAB address NEWLINE > =20 > where "TAB" is the tab key, and NEWLINE is the end of the entry. I do not think you are right. Try the following structure: nickname TAB username TAB address TAB fcc TAB comment NEWLINE You may leave the last two empty but include tha TAB separators (i.e. every line contains (at least) four TAB's. > However, if I create this same file by hand in the "vi" editor, or= if=20 > I build it from an existing list of users, the .addressbook does N= OT=20 > function the same way. Pine refuses to properly call up a given u= ser=20 > if that username is defined in the "manually-created" method. [...] > Am I missing something? Why won't Pine accept an addressbook file= =20 > that I have created myself outside of Pine? I think it should work now (we use script creating a global addressbook from our password file). Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01983; Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:35:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA20633 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:32:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA20626 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:32:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA26220; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:31:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:31:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configure news collections In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > The question was slightly different. What should I do, if I want > sci.electronics.design *and* comp.sys.atari.st in *one* collection? If I > define collection as {news.host}comp.[], there is no way to put also > sci.something in there; and if I define collection as {news.host}[], then > *all* groups will be in that collection - not very handy. > > I already aske the same question - how can I make alt.security.pgp *and* > comp.security.pgp.[] appear as *one* collection? Without any other group > form comp.[] or alt.[] appearing there also? > > I have several dozens groups defined splitted between different collection > - but I would like to keep logically related groups together. Currently it > is just not possible. Hmmm... That is a considerably tougher problem that Pine does not yet solve... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15046; Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:37:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA20709 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:34:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA20703 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:34:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1EfK-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Saving in Pine Date: 9 Sep 1996 22:06:35 GMT Message-Id: <5124db$egk@due.unit.no> References: <511emp$lcd@news.fm.intel.com> <511vem$qkn@gap.cco.caltech.edu> In article <511vem$qkn@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, Ramanuj Basu wrote: >If you enable the "print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt" option under your >configuration, you can get what you want (assuming you're using Unix) by >"printing" the e-mail message you're interested in using the custom print >command: > > cat | tail +n > filename > >where n is the number of lines you want chopped off the top of the >message (the headers plus the blank line above the message). At >least, this is how I produce the file "filename" containing message >text and no headers. This sounds a bit complicated in two respects: first, you can use the attachment menu as I explained in my other message. Secondly, rather than printing to a custom command, you can use the pipe command (|). I don't know if there might be some differences in the final format between the methods. Oh, and thirdly, I think the "cat |" part is unnecessary. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15571; Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:59:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA21162 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:55:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maildeliver3.tiac.net (maildeliver3.tiac.net [199.0.65.107]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA21157 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:55:40 -0700 Received: from mailserver2.tiac.net (mailserver2.tiac.net [199.0.65.231]) by maildeliver3.tiac.net (8.6.12/8.7.4) with ESMTP id MAA02318 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:56:53 -0400 Received: from ops.tiac.net (ops.tiac.net [199.0.65.120]) by mailserver2.tiac.net (8.6.12/8.7.4) with SMTP id MAA14038 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:56:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:55:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Baker To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe ebaker@ops.tiac.net ************************************************************* * Ed Baker Operations Manager * * E-mail:ebaker@tiac.net * * The Internet Access Company, Bedford, MA (617) 276-7200 * ************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15448; Thu, 12 Sep 96 10:14:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA00980 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:09:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from qs.secapl.com (QS.secapl.com [192.131.69.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA00973 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:09:26 -0700 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by qs.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA120806; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:58:13 -0500 Received: from Fozzie.secapl.com by Cookie.secapl.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA163380; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:08:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by fozzie.secapl.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA147264; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:09:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:09:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony Iannotti To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Managing Unix message folders with Windows Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Sep 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > I've got tons of Unix message folders that are gzipped on my Unix > hosts. I'm downloading them to my Windows machine and gunzipping them > and using Pine to read, reply-to, and reorganize them. When I open up > these folders they are READONLY so I can't delete messages and they > don't flag messages that I answer. One way to solve this problem is to I think if you use the attrib -r command at the dos prompt on them (it takes wildcards) this should fix it. I think there is also a Windows File manager menu choice for Attributes that will do the same thing. Essentially you just need to turn the read-only flag off at the dos level. _________________________________________________________________________ Tony Iannotti Security APL tony@secapl.com 101 Hudson Street 201/332-2020 Jersey City, NJ 07302 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15600; Thu, 12 Sep 96 10:16:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA01039 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:12:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA01034 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:12:08 -0700 Received: from [206.127.16.217] by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA101192; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:08:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19960912121206.00693360@dhc1.deehoward.com> X-Sender: greg@dhc1.deehoward.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:12:06 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Greg Bassett Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" UNSUBSCRIBE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15051; Thu, 12 Sep 96 10:43:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA01751 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:39:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA01746 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:39:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1Fgo-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 10:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: judy@colorado.edu (Brad Judy) Subject: Looking for best IMAP client Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 17:13:46 GMT Message-Id: <519g7b$ef4@lace.colorado.edu> I work for the University of Colorado and we're looking into the possibility of using IMAP for our primary mail systems. Right now we're trying to find the best cross-platform (at least Mac and Win) IMAP client application. Any input would be appriciated. Brad Judy judy@colorado.edu Computing and Network Services University of Colorado - Boulder From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16082; Thu, 12 Sep 96 10:44:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA01802 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:40:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from MUW.Edu (SunMUW1.MUW.Edu [192.231.29.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA01797 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:40:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by MUW.Edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27068; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:34:48 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:34:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Mary E Ervin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: print command Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am unable to print from pine anymore. After viewing a message if I wish to print it, I enter "Y"; pine asks me print message text using "attached-to-ansi"?. If I answer yes it waits a moment then tells me print is completed, but nothing printed. If I answer no it tells me the print command was cancelled. What am I doing wrong, or not doing? I could print previously. Suggestions welcomed. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17548; Thu, 12 Sep 96 11:22:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA23299 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id LAA23292 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA00732; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:04 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: David L Miller To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configure news collections In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > I already aske the same question - how can I make alt.security.pgp *and* > comp.security.pgp.[] appear as *one* collection? Without any other group > form comp.[] or alt.[] appearing there also? It was just brought to my attention that this specific case is solvable in Pine 3.95 (and earlier) by specifying news-collections=[*security.pgp*] I had forgotten that you can have both leading and trailing '*'s insode the []... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05148; Thu, 12 Sep 96 11:25:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA23368 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:21:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id LAA23360 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:21:37 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp3.UU.NET [192.48.96.34]) id QQbgwn01685; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:21:35 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA842552001 Thu, 12 Sep 96 11:13:21 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 11:13:21 Message-Id: <9608128425.AA842552001@mailya.yakima.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: print command Mary: What system are you on? UNIX? Where is your printer? On the network, or directly attached to your terminal? "attached-to-ansi" is for printers that are hanging off the back of your terminal (or PC). To see what your default printer is currently set to, get into the Pine/Setup/Printer screen. Near the top of the screen, Pine will tell you what the default is: Default printer currently set to "HP IIIsi (upstairs)" My guess is that it's set to "attached-to-ansi". Assuming you're on UNIX and want to round printouts to a network printer: 1. Move down to the "Personally selected print command" line. 2. Press the key to select this as your default. 3. If your printer is not listed, ADD a printer name. On AIX/UNIX, my printer command is: lp -dhpiiisi_1 Hope this helps. - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: print command Author: Mary E Ervin at INTERNET Date: 9/12/96 11:03 AM I am unable to print from pine anymore. After viewing a message if I wish to print it, I enter "Y"; pine asks me print message text using "attached-to-ansi"?. If I answer yes it waits a moment then tells me print is completed, but nothing printed. If I answer no it tells me the print command was cancelled. What am I doing wrong, or not doing? I could print previously. Suggestions welcomed. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18576; Thu, 12 Sep 96 12:28:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA24880 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:24:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA24875 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:24:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1HLU-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 12:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Automatic purging of dated messages Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:49:53 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Sep 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Joe Britton wrote: > > > Is there a way to keep Pine from automatically asking me if I wish to > > delete messages I've saved from months past. At the beginning of each > > month I am asked if I'd like to delete this old mail. On several > > occasions I have inadvertantly replied "yes" and lost important archives. > > BTW I've checked for a setup option to turn off this pine 'feature'. > > In your .pinerc file look for: > > last-time-prune-questioned=96.9 > > Set it =05.12 and wait for January 2006. Hummmm...wonder if > pine is year 2000 safe. :-) :-) > Pine is sort-of 2000 safe here, but you need to set it to =105.12 to wait until 2006 ;-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19428; Thu, 12 Sep 96 12:34:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA04718 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:30:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA04713 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:29:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1HNh-00038UC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 12:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ^R:Background sending Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:56:41 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, James Shattuck wrote: > I just found a great new feature of Pine: > enable-background-sending in Configure > > Then, when sending, you have the option to let the system deliver it at > its leasure. > > My only question is, however, does it attempt more than once if the server > is so busy that the send command bounces back? It doesn't seem to here, > it sends a message saying to go back to compose and resend it. I didn't > do anything, and it never tried again for the next 5 minutes. It would > seem to me to be true a "background" operation to continue attempting on > its own. The background-sending feature was added at the last minute and is still pretty primitive. I would like to stress that this is an _experimental_ feature! --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14105; Thu, 12 Sep 96 13:23:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA26225 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:20:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA26217 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:19:59 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01075; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:19:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14158; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA10393; Thu, 12 Sep 96 16:18:24 EDT Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:18:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: Billt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: spaced out In-Reply-To: <5173kh$1o5@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Sep 1996, Billt wrote: > Don't know how to email this guy, he says his format is john doe@my.com , > note the space between john and doe. Pine won't let me put a space there > and johndoe@my.com doe not work. Am I doing something wrong? Please Email > me > Try john.doe@my.com Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14643; Thu, 12 Sep 96 13:33:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA26557 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:30:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA26547 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:30:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1IOA-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 13:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mentat@caladan.italpro.com (Michele Beltrame) Subject: Re: printing Date: 12 Sep 1996 19:57:16 GMT Message-Id: References: <199609102206.PAA118922@uvaix3e1.comp.UVic.CA> Hi fangm@UVic.CA ! >Is it possible to print my incoming mail messages from Pine. If yes, how do >I do that. Thanks in advance. You should set: printer=lpr in your ~/.pinerc file. You'll find this statement around the middle of the .pinerc file. Mic. -- -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Michele Beltrame Italpro srl mentat@italpro.com http://www.italpro.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20954; Thu, 12 Sep 96 13:58:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA06840 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:55:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA06835 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:55:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1ImS-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 13:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hchapman@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Speed Racer) Subject: 2 Blank Lines... Date: 12 Sep 1996 20:18:56 GMT Message-Id: <519r7g$64c@netnews.upenn.edu> Whenever I hit "r"eply in pine, pine places two blank lines before the quoted text. Is there anyway to stop it from doing this? R. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22437; Thu, 12 Sep 96 14:55:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA29064 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:50:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA29059 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:50:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1JdO-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 14:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa126@fan1.fan.nb.ca (William Burrow) Subject: Re: Forwarding to a WWW-Page? Date: 12 Sep 1996 21:25:12 GMT Message-Id: <519v3o$8ql@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> References: <32382108.41C6@uni-hohenheim.de> Michael Dengler (denglerm@uni-hohenheim.de) wrote: : Help!!! :) : Is there any chance to forward an email to a WWW-page??? : ... there is a free page on the www to send a message to my pager... : ... it dosn't have to transmit the text of the email message... Yes, the famous Unix (or any system running sendmail, really) .foward file will do this and more for you. If, for example, you wanted to run a program that pages you whenever you receive, mail, you can get the .forward file to do this for you as well. Unfortunately, I forget the syntax used in the .forward file for more complex actions, and I cannot find this info with a couple hours searching for it. I will go to further lengths perhaps and post back what I find. However, I would suggest that this is not a Pine problem, and that another comp.mail.* newsgroup is more appropriate. -- -- William Burrow -- Fredericton Area Network From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24579; Thu, 12 Sep 96 18:39:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA12673 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:35:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA12667 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:35:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1N9I-00038TC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 18:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kjell Andresen Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? Date: 8 Sep 1996 08:05:41 GMT Message-Id: <50tuol$7cj@ratatosk.uio.no> References: In-Reply-To: Paul O Bartlett's message of Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:57:06 -0400 On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Glen Wooten wrote: > I've seen someone comment about having problems setting up a "Reply-To" > section in Pine 3.95, but HOW do you set it up to begin with? There's no > area in the normal configuration to do it... I am only on 3.94, but unless version 3.95 made some catastrophic changes, from the Main Menu go to Setup and Config. Scroll down to customized-hrs and add the Reply-to: ... that you want. (When in doubt, check the context-sensitive online Help screens.) As in 3.94 you have to add all headers you want incl. those "standard" ones in that section! -- -Kjell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24453; Thu, 12 Sep 96 19:02:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA12992 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:00:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA12987 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:00:07 -0700 Received: from dana.ucc.nau.edu (dana.ucc.nau.edu) by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-6 #2384) id <01I9EH918K8WQPRMIN@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:00:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (mcp2@localhost) by dana.ucc.nau.edu (8.7.1/2.12b-nau) with SMTP id TAA12212 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:00:02 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:00:00 -0700 (MST) From: Marleigh Corinne Parker Subject: Saving messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I can't save my messages, in fact, no one can. Please help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25444; Thu, 12 Sep 96 19:38:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA04281 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:35:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA04276 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:35:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1O5G-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 19:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: File Duplication, ooops! Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:00:52 GMT Message-Id: <512avj$enb@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: Assuming you're in Unix at the shell prompt in your login directory, the command cat bob >> mail/bob will add the contents of file bob in your login directory to file bob in your mail directory. The command rm bob will then delete file bob from your home directory. If you want to *replace* file bob in the mail directory with file bob from the login directory (instead of adding them together), use a single ">" instead of the double one above. -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:52:44 -0700, Clint Danbury wrote: >Is there a simple way to .... > (A) Take all of the contents of the file > in my home directory > (B) Put said contents into the file in the > ..../mail/... sub-directory which has > the same name > (C) Delete the file in my home directory > which has the improperly chosen > duplicate name. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14875; Thu, 12 Sep 96 19:51:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA04473 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:49:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA04468 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:49:19 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 13 Sep 96 10:43:06 +0800 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:34:57 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Marleigh Corinne Parker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Saving messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Marleigh Corinne Parker wrote: > I can't save my messages, in fact, no one can. Please help. I can save your messages....... I believe it would be helpful if you described you problem in greater detail. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25660; Thu, 12 Sep 96 19:58:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA13828 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:56:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA13817 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:55:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1OOe-00038TC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 19:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ari Y. Weintraub" Subject: Composing mail to all entries in addressbook Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:43:15 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way in Pine 3.94 to compose mail to all of the entries in my addressbook. For example, I recently changed my phone number and would like to send one message to everybody with the new number. I can't find a way to do this - does anyone out there have any idea? TIA Be typin' to ya'! Ari Weintraub MSI University of Maryland School of Medicine 427 Yeshiva Lane Baltimore, MD 21208 (410)415-5919 aweintra@umabnet.ab.umd.edu Advertising may be described as the science of arresting the human intelligence long enough to get money from it. --Stephen Butler Leacock From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27135; Thu, 12 Sep 96 20:19:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA14149 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:16:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id UAA14142 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:16:37 -0700 Received: from dana.ucc.nau.edu (dana.ucc.nau.edu) by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-6 #2384) id <01I9EJWVRPMOQPRJQG@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:16:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (kco@localhost) by dana.ucc.nau.edu (8.7.1/2.12b-nau) with SMTP id UAA04574; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:16:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:16:31 -0700 (MST) From: Kennan Curry Oliphant Subject: Saved mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: kco@dana.ucc.nau.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi, usually when I get e-mail messages I save them in a "saved mail" folder. When I went to view my saved mail my folder was not there. My saved mail folder has been established for a couple of weeks now. I don't understand what happened. Could you help me or direct me to someone who could? Thank you for your cooperation. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27387; Thu, 12 Sep 96 20:22:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA14214 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:20:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id UAA14209 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:20:26 -0700 Received: from dana.ucc.nau.edu (dana.ucc.nau.edu) by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-6 #2384) id <01I9EK2LHIBKQPRJ17@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:20:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (kco@localhost) by dana.ucc.nau.edu (8.7.1/2.12b-nau) with SMTP id UAA05714 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:20:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:20:20 -0700 (MST) From: Kennan Curry Oliphant Subject: Re: Saved mail In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Kennan Curry Oliphant wrote: > Hi, usually when I get e-mail messages I save them in a "saved mail" > folder. When I went to view my saved mail, my folder was not there. My > saved mail folder has been established for a couple of weeks now. I don't > understand what happened. Could you help me or direct me to someone who > could? Thank you for your cooperation. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27936; Thu, 12 Sep 96 21:11:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA14798 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:06:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id VAA14793 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:06:53 -0700 Received: from dana.ucc.nau.edu (dana.ucc.nau.edu) by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-6 #2384) id <01I9ELO7Q33KQPQP7I@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:06:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (kpd@localhost) by dana.ucc.nau.edu (8.7.1/2.12b-nau) with SMTP id VAA18681 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:06:47 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:06:47 -0700 (MST) From: Kevbosuk Subject: Message saving To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Pine will not let me save my messages. It says that it can't create a certain mailbox because there is no such file or directory. Please help me. Thank you, Kevin Damore From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14043; Thu, 12 Sep 96 22:58:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA06734 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:55:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com (intfw.bear.com [206.25.172.66]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA06729 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:55:22 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08204; Fri, 13 Sep 96 01:55:16 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma007822; Fri Sep 13 01:50:37 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA04696; Fri, 13 Sep 96 01:53:35 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA28033; Fri, 13 Sep 96 01:51:13 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA13368; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 01:50:44 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01433; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 01:50:39 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA16549; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 01:50:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 01:50:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: pine mailing list Subject: Problems with 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I recently transfered overseas and (unfortunately) I now manage a network of HP/UX 9.0.3 systems. So, I downloaded my favorite mail reader (precompiled for hpux9) and tried to set up an imap connection back to NJ. I was running Solaris 2.5 there with pine 3.94 (and associated 3.94 thingies). I had an imap connection set up fro home there and it worked great (pine 3.94 client on Debian linux 1.1 over ppp). However, the HP version kept prompting me for a passwd everytime I did anything. Usually this would only happen once. So I took the advise of another from this list and canged the host name to the IP address, but no improvement. I then decided to sync up the pine versions, so I upgraded the Solaris machine to pine3.95 (and impad, etc), butthis made things worse. Now the HP tries to connect but never comes back from that. The bar just keeps twirling. I'm now telnetting into the solaris machine from here, which works OK, but I'd rather have a local editing session and only have to deal with slow connectivity for folder management, etc. We have a 256kb connection, which is very usable normally. I need to get this working somewhat reliably or I'll never be able to sell imap as a remote mail server solution. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 011-81-3-3437-7810 - Tokyo, Japan -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28701; Thu, 12 Sep 96 23:18:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA16419 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:16:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id XAA16413 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:16:21 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA05930; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:16:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:16:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Richard G. Roberto" Cc: pine mailing list Subject: Re: Problems with 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, First thought: if the rsh to the imap server times out, it will prompt for passwd, so maybe the rsh to the server is failing. You can try to invoke the remote imapd manually and see what happens... The syntax is: rsh host-name /etc/rimapd -teg On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > Hi, > > I recently transfered overseas and (unfortunately) I now > manage a network of HP/UX 9.0.3 systems. So, I downloaded > my favorite mail reader (precompiled for hpux9) and tried to > set up an imap connection back to NJ. I was running Solaris > 2.5 there with pine 3.94 (and associated 3.94 thingies). I > had an imap connection set up fro home there and it worked > great (pine 3.94 client on Debian linux 1.1 over ppp). > However, the HP version kept prompting me for a passwd > everytime I did anything. Usually this would only happen > once. So I took the advise of another from this list and > canged the host name to the IP address, but no improvement. > I then decided to sync up the pine versions, so I upgraded > the Solaris machine to pine3.95 (and impad, etc), butthis > made things worse. Now the HP tries to connect but never > comes back from that. The bar just keeps twirling. > I'm now telnetting into the solaris machine from here, which > works OK, but I'd rather have a local editing session and > only have to deal with slow connectivity for folder > management, etc. We have a 256kb connection, which is very > usable normally. I need to get this working somewhat > reliably or I'll never be able to sell imap as a remote mail > server solution. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Thanks. > > Richard G. Roberto > richr@bear.com > 011-81-3-3437-7810 - Tokyo, Japan > > > -- > ******************************************************************************* > Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or > agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account > activity contained in this communication. > ******************************************************************************* > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29275; Thu, 12 Sep 96 23:22:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA16484 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:20:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA16479 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:20:41 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 13 Sep 96 14:25:46 +0800 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:17:36 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Kevbosuk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Message saving In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Kevbosuk wrote: > Pine will not let me save my messages. It says that it can't create a > certain mailbox because there is no such file or directory. > Please help me. Your question is a bit cryptic. You don't say what platform you are using. You don't give any indication on your environment and you don't say exactly what pine is telling you. Kind of like asking: When I try to start my vehicle it makes a noise, what is wrong? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29286; Thu, 12 Sep 96 23:33:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA07155 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:31:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA07150 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:31:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1Rk7-00038TC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 23:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: djb@koobera.math.uic.edu (D. J. Bernstein) Message-Id: <1996Sep1304.57.18.2593@koobera.math.uic.edu> Date: 13 Sep 1996 04:57:18 GMT Subject: Re: cucipop, unleashed... References: <519030$idm@hera.cuci.nl> Stephen R. van den Berg wrote: > + Is the only popd to perform reliable mailbox locking across > NFS as well Actually, qmail-pop3d works reliably over NFS. (It's dedicated to maildir format. maildir is nice for programmers because it doesn't need any locking beyond the kernel's automatic low-level directory locking.) qmail-pop3d also uses no temporary files, can serve any size mailbox, supports APOP and UIDL, imposes no limits on lines or characters, and has a hook for your favorite authentication scheme. It's much smaller than cucipop. It does sound like you have the best available mbox-based POP server. > + It also supports an optional autodelete mechanism, so that any > RETReived message is automatically deleted Yikes. Does it also automatically tell the users what it's doing? ``I will irrevocably destroy your mail, before you've seen it, if your connection drops at the wrong moment.'' ---Dan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29541; Thu, 12 Sep 96 23:48:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA07364 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:46:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA07359 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:46:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1RxX-00038TC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 23:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wladimir Shukowsky Subject: Die-hard news articles Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:36:34 -0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A strange behaviour: I open a news folder (e.g. comp.mail.pine) and after reading the articles, I Delete and eXclude all of them. The next day, when I open the folder again, Pine 3.95 (Sun OS) shows not only the new articles which have arrived but also the ones I have deleted the previous day! I've compared the contents of .newsrc before and after article exclusion and it seems to be updated correctly: Contents of .newsrc at folder openning ======================================= comp.mail.pine: 1-12146, 12148-12149, 12151, 12153-12165, 12167-12177, 12179-12183,12185-12236,12238-12248,12250-12255 Contents of .newsrc after exclusion of all articles: ==================================================== comp.mail.pine: 1-12325 So, if .newsrc is updated correctly, how do the excluded articles get resurrected the next day? Has someone else experienced the same problem? -- +=Wladimir Shukowsky==========wladimir@iag.usp.br=+ | Universidade de Sao Paulo | Tel: +55-11-8184776 | | Sao Paulo SP / Brazil | Fax: +55-11-8185034 | +=========WGS84: 23 33'31"S 46 43'59"W===========+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29474; Thu, 12 Sep 96 23:48:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA16879 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:46:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA16874 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:46:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1RxQ-00038BC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 23:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwalter@sigma.not.for.mail.washington.edu (Ervin Walter) Subject: Re: pine to recognize other addresses as me Date: 9 Sep 1996 03:16:50 GMT Message-Id: References: nevermind. I found out how to do this. Thanks, Erv On 9 Sep 1996 02:20:25 GMT, Ervin Walter wrote: > >I am new to pine and have a question. Is there a wayto have pine >recognize additional addresses other than the username of the system >I am on as me? For example, I get my mail from three sites via POP3. -- ____ ----==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ / / /\ \ - edwalter@usa.net --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - walter@chem.wisc.edu -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /______\ \ \ - edwalter@students.wisc.edu http://www.linux.org \_________\/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29636; Fri, 13 Sep 96 00:07:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA07576 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:05:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com (intfw.bear.com [206.25.172.66]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA07571; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:05:16 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10698; Fri, 13 Sep 96 03:05:11 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma010431; Fri Sep 13 02:57:27 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA05017; Fri, 13 Sep 96 03:00:29 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA28184; Fri, 13 Sep 96 02:58:07 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA21026; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:57:38 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08652; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:57:33 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA16608; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:57:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:57:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: Terry Gray Cc: pine mailing list Subject: Re: Problems with 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Richard, > First thought: if the rsh to the imap server times out, it will > prompt for passwd, so maybe the rsh to the server is failing. > > You can try to invoke the remote imapd manually and see what happens... > The syntax is: rsh host-name /etc/rimapd > > -teg > Well, this seems to work, but I don't know how pine handles the fact that my username is different. It was connecting before though. As far as timing out goes, I think that's unlikely since my Debian system was working fine with pine as an imap client of the same Solaris machine just last week in the US over a 28.8 modem line running PPP. That was much slower than what I have here. tkhp1:roberto:~:135$ rsh tiberius -l richr /etc/rimapd * PREAUTH tiberius IMAP2bis Service 7.8(100) at Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:48:53 -0400 (EDT) I just did a ^D to get out of this :-( Thanks again for any help. By the way, I tried stripping the binaries (on both sides) but it had no effect. I don't have anything like trace or truss on this HP/UX unfortunately. Thanks Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 011-81-3-3437-7810 - Tokyo, Japan -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29763; Fri, 13 Sep 96 00:39:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA17507 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:37:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA17502 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:37:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1Sls-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 00:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ian Owens" Subject: PINE VERSION 3.87 ON SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2 AND GREATER Date: 11 Sep 1996 18:05:20 GMT Message-Id: <516v10$hvs@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> WE SEEM TO BE HAVING DATE PROBLEMS IN PINE 3.87 ON UNIX 3.2.4.2. WHEN A USER SENDS AN E-MAIL THE PROPER DATE IS IN THE DATE SENT FIELD OF MMDF BUT WHEN ANOTHER USER RECEIVES THE MESSAGE THE DATE FOR RECEIVED IS INCORRECT. USUALLY A DATE 20 YEARS AGO. THIS CAUSES A PROBLEM IN THAT PINE 3.87 USES THE RECEIVED DATE TO DISPLAY TO THE USER. HAS ANYONE HAD THIS PROBLEM OR ANY IDEA OF WHERE TO BEGIN TO LOOK? I HAVE ALREADY CHECKED THE SYSTEM DATE AND ITS IS SET TO THE CORRECT DATE AND TIME. -- Ian Owens ProPlus 2000 Inc. PO Box 25126 Moncton, NB Canada E1C 9M9 Visit Our Web http://webmaster.proplus.ca Innovation through Technology From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29757; Fri, 13 Sep 96 00:59:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA08146 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:57:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA08141; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:57:05 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA21648; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:57:03 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:57:03 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ^R:Background sending In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > The background-sending feature was added at the last minute and is > still pretty primitive. I would like to stress that this is an > _experimental_ feature! > then we can hope to have some day a switch to avoid the confirmation of the command? I state that if i was able to hit R i was sure of what i was doing.... or did i miss the switch? ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27927; Fri, 13 Sep 96 02:49:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA09344 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:43:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-gw.t-mi.com (mail-gw.t-mi.com [162.11.243.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA09339 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:43:21 -0700 Received: from t-mi.com (162.11.100.51) by mail-gw.t-mi.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.4) with SMTP id ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:32:52 +0100 Received: from sparc14 by t-mi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA17921; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:41:10 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:41:13 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford X-Sender: clifford@sparc14 To: Brad Judy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Looking for best IMAP client In-Reply-To: <519g7b$ef4@lace.colorado.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Brad I don't know about the best but having installed and run Simeon on a University site and done the same with Pine I would certainly recommend the latter over the former. Both have problems with bugs in new releases, but Pines are fixed quickly, help is always available and its free. (Simeon is available very very cheaply to the academic community in the UK). The IMAP server from Washington is very robust and seems to work with all clients. My experience of Simeon's server was not a happy one. Unfortunately Windows users tend to prefer the Simeon style of Windows client (that old look and feel) but if exposed to the functionality of Pine first that problem can be avoided. I'm not sure if there is a port of Pine to the Mac, there are certainly versions available for DOS, Windows, UNIX and VMS. I guess there must be more options out there now. When you do make a choice I'd very much like to know which way its goes and if possible the deciding factors. Clifford On Thu, 12 Sep 1996,Brad Judy wrote: > I work for the University of Colorado and we're looking into the > possibility of using IMAP for our primary mail systems. Right now we're > trying to find the best cross-platform (at least Mac and Win) IMAP client > application. Any input would be appriciated. > > Brad Judy > judy@colorado.edu > Computing and Network Services > University of Colorado - Boulder > Clifford Wesley Fulford _________________________________________________________________________ CBF-International | clifford@t-mi.com | 044 (0)181-986-5239 17 Sewdley Street | clifford@cix.compulink.co.uk | 044 (0)171-577-2741 Lea Bridge, E5-0AX. | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30996; Fri, 13 Sep 96 03:09:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA09587 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:05:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dxmint.cern.ch (dxmint.cern.ch [137.138.26.76]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA09582 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:05:17 -0700 Received: from hpatl01.cern.ch (hpatl01.cern.ch [128.141.202.72]) by dxmint.cern.ch with SMTP id MAA15709 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:03:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost by hpatl01.cern.ch with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA05982; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:03:50 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:03:33 +0200 (METDST) From: David Candlin X-Sender: candlin@hpatl01.cern.ch To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine 3.95 and IMAP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My mail repository, and pine folders, are on a DEC-Unix 3.2 machine in Edinburgh, Scotland, which runs an IMAP server. I frequently work at CERN, Geneva, where I use an HP workstation. The networking is not too great, but is no worse than usual. Both sites recently upgraded from pine 3.91 to pine 3.95. Now, when I access my mail from CERN, the IMAP connection is dropped (by the client, I believe, from the pine-debug file) at certain defined points. The result is that I have to provide my login name and password each time I need a buffer to compose a message, and twice when I complete the message -- once to send it, and again to write it to sent-mail. There is no problem in reading messages. As you may imagine, this situation is a real pain. Any ideas? The CERN computer centre refused to comment, since Edinburgh was running IMAP2bis. So we changed to IMAP4, and as you can guess, nothing improved. David Candlin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30884; Fri, 13 Sep 96 03:32:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA19470 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:27:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet3.freenet.ufl.edu (freenet3.afn.org [128.227.163.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA19465 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:27:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by freenet3.freenet.ufl.edu (8.7.3/4.11) id GAA12704; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 06:27:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 06:27:46 -0400 (EDT) From: terry jones To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: newsgroup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII my newsgroup are gone and I went and subscribe to another news group and they wouldn't come down also. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31270; Fri, 13 Sep 96 03:45:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA10016 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:42:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA10011 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 03:42:50 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:37:38 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA25641; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:41:42 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:41:41 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Clifford Wesley Fulford Cc: Brad Judy , Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Looking for best IMAP client In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Clifford Wesley Fulford wrote: > I'm not sure if there is a port of Pine to the Mac, there are certainly > versions available for DOS, Windows, UNIX and VMS. I'm afraid therer isn't a port of Pine to the Mac. However a couple of good possibilities are: Mail Drop -- Free, from ftp://ackmo.baylor.edu/pub/bell/Mail_Drop/ (go for the latest beta version) Mulberry -- commercial (but cheap, and with bulk licences available) Contact: Cyrus Daboo A demo version is probably available. > I guess there must be more options out there now. When you do make a > choice I'd very much like to know which way its goes and if possible the > deciding factors. It's worth checking out the IMAP Connection information centre at: http://www.imap.org/ One tip: watch out for wolf IMAP client software in sheeps clothing. I once tried POPmail III for the Mac as it supported POP2, POP3 and IMAP. Howevr I found it used IMAP in a POP-like manner, using it to simply rip all the messages off the IMAP server and transfer/access them from the Mac's local hard disk. This defeats the philosophy of IMAP of allowing the messages to remain on the central server and be manipulated in situ. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31124; Fri, 13 Sep 96 04:43:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA20482 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:39:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA20465 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:38:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA15144; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:37:36 +0200 (METDST) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:37:36 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: David Candlin Cc: The Pine Discussion List , =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= Subject: Re: pine 3.95 and IMAP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Acknowledge-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Delivery-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, David Candlin wrote: > Both sites recently upgraded from pine 3.91 to pine 3.95. Now, when I > access my mail from CERN, the IMAP connection is dropped (by the client= , I > believe, from the pine-debug file) at certain defined points. The resul= t > is that I have to provide my login name and password each time I need a > buffer to compose a message, and twice when I complete the message -- o= nce > to send it, and again to write it to sent-mail. There is no problem in > reading messages. Change the definition of your INBOX and folder collections (of everything what is remote) so they look like {bla.bla.bla.edinburg.uk/user=3Dimapuser}INBOX, where imapuser is your username ay Edinburg and INBOX (in case of folder collections) is replaced by the name of he folder collection, etc. It should help. Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, CZ 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30799; Fri, 13 Sep 96 04:52:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA20589 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:48:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA20584 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:48:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA16029; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:44:16 +0200 (METDST) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:44:16 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: "Richard G. Roberto" Cc: pine mailing list Subject: Re: Problems with 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Acknowledge-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Delivery-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > Well, this seems to work, but I don't know how pine handles > the fact that my username is different. It was connecting 3.95 uses the parameter described bellow. It may help you. Regards, V. S. On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD {Vladimir Solnicky} wrote: > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:37:36 +0200 (METDST) > From: Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD {Vladimir Solnicky} > To: David Candlin > Cc: The Pine Discussion List , > "Bc. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD" > Subject: Re: pine 3.95 and IMAP >=20 > On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, David Candlin wrote: >=20 > > Both sites recently upgraded from pine 3.91 to pine 3.95. Now, when I > > access my mail from CERN, the IMAP connection is dropped (by the clie= nt, I > > believe, from the pine-debug file) at certain defined points. The res= ult > > is that I have to provide my login name and password each time I need= a > > buffer to compose a message, and twice when I complete the message --= once > > to send it, and again to write it to sent-mail. There is no problem i= n > > reading messages. >=20 > Change the definition of your INBOX and folder collections (of everythi= ng > what is remote) so they look like >=20 > {bla.bla.bla.edinburg.uk/user=3Dimapuser}INBOX, >=20 > where imapuser is your username ay Edinburg and INBOX (in case of folde= r > collections) is replaced by the name of he folder collection, etc. >=20 > It should help. >=20 > Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, CZ 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 06:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20405; Fri, 13 Sep 96 06:03:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA11668 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 05:56:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA11663 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 05:56:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1XkT-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 05:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Unix 3.95 and remote IMAP? Date: 13 Sep 1996 12:34:03 GMT Message-Id: <51bkbr$mk2@news.ececs.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am unable to find a way to use Unix Pine 3.95 to call a remote host and access emails from its IMAP server. Is this operation allowed/supported? Can you give me a clue? Thanks a lot for your help! In case it matters, I am using Pine on an SGI machine, under Irix 5.3. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02550; Fri, 13 Sep 96 08:46:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA14687 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:42:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA14680 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:42:27 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp3.UU.NET [192.48.96.34]) id QQbgzu18034; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:42:26 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA842628175 Fri, 13 Sep 96 08:22:55 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 08:22:55 Message-Id: <9608138426.AA842628175@mailya.yakima.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re[2]: Address books Thank you everyone who made suggestions on how to use the UNIX /etc/passwd list of users to create an .addressbook file (especially Vladim Solnick). The problem is that creating a text file with only FULLNAME and ADDRESS is not enough. A NICKNAME field must also be included. The following is the script I used to create the .addressbook file: #!/bin/sh # File: pine-addressbook # What: Create a new global addressbook for the Pine email system. echo "Creating global address list for Pine ..." cut -d: -f1,5 /etc/passwd | tr ' ' '_' | tr ':' ' ' | \ awk '{ print $1 "\t" $2 "\t" $1"@companyname.com" "\t" "\t" }' > /tmp/.addressbook.tmp tr '_' ' ' < /tmp/.addressbook.tmp > /tmp/.addressbook.new echo "1. The new global Pine address book is: /tmp/.addressbook.new" echo "2. Be sure to edit out the 'garbage' email addresses, first." echo "3. Then, move it into /usr/local/lib/.addressbook" ## EOF That is all there is to it. Now, when a user presses the RETURN key on an address in the addressbook, the address pops into the "TO:" field like it should (all because of the NICKNAME field). - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Address books Author: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Pine email dis at INTERNET Date: 9/12/96 10:04 AM **ERROR** LONG FROM FIELD. FIELD WAS CUT. OLD FIELD WAS: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Pine email discussion group Subject: Re: Address booksOn Thu, 12 Sep 1996 msw@mailya.yakima.com wrote: > If I use the UNIX "vi" editor to look at the .addressbook file I > create inside of Pine, the file contains the following characters: > nickname TAB username TAB address NEWLINE > > where "TAB" is the tab key, and NEWLINE is the end of the entry. I do not think you are right. Try the following structure: nickname TAB username TAB address TAB fcc TAB comment NEWLINE You may leave the last two empty but include tha TAB separators (i.e. every line contains (at least) four TAB's. > However, if I create this same file by hand in the "vi" editor, or if > I build it from an existing list of users, the .addressbook does NOT > function the same way. Pine refuses to properly call up a given user > if that username is defined in the "manually-created" method. [...] > Am I missing something? Why won't Pine accept an addressbook file > that I have created myself outside of Pine? I think it should work now (we use script creating a global addressbook from our password file). Regards, V. S. Vladim?r Solnick?, ?TIA AV ?R, Pod vod?renskou v??? 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe?, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03039; Fri, 13 Sep 96 09:08:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA24919 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:02:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA24914 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:02:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1afw-00038TC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 09:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dale Bewley Subject: PINE 3.95 Solaris Term EMU broken? Message-Id: <323840DB.1C46@iupui.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:56:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently upgraded from 3.91 to 3.95 now my users' say that the terminal emulation seems to be broken. When they read mail they get double lines, the cursor will not be where it appears. Things were fine in 3.91. I installed a precompiled pine for Solaris 2.4. Ideas? -- # Dale Bewley $contact = ( mailto:dlbewley@iupui.edu || http://www.engr.iupui.edu/~dbewley/perl/ ); From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02752; Fri, 13 Sep 96 09:25:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA15588 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:17:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA15582 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:17:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1av6-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 09:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Reed Subject: Re: spaced out Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 07:15:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: <5173kh$1o5@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 12 Sep 1996, Don Sugarman wrote: > On 11 Sep 1996, Billt wrote: > > > Don't know how to email this guy, he says his format is john doe@my.com , > > note the space between john and doe. Pine won't let me put a space there > > and johndoe@my.com doe not work. Am I doing something wrong? Please Email > > me > > > Try john.doe@my.com Or john_doe@my.com This works for email here at Motorola as long as the name is unique. Tim ======================================================================== Tim Reed rpgw30@email.sps.mot.com ======================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05696; Fri, 13 Sep 96 11:00:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA27877 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:57:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA27869 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:57:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1cQF-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 10:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Dengler Subject: Forwarding to a WWW-Page? Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:41:12 +0200 Message-Id: <32382108.41C6@uni-hohenheim.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help!!! :) Is there any chance to forward an email to a WWW-page??? ... there is a free page on the www to send a message to my pager... ... it dosn't have to transmit the text of the email message... Can anybody help me!? Thanx Michael Info: Pine 3.94 http://www.cityruf.detemobil.de/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29544; Fri, 13 Sep 96 12:51:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA20292 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:47:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA20287 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:47:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1eBn-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 12:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nharkins@also.hooked.net (Neil Harkins) Subject: Re: cucipop, unleashed... Date: 13 Sep 1996 19:00:58 GMT Message-Id: <51cb1a$687@its.hooked.net> References: <519030$idm@hera.cuci.nl> <1996Sep1304.57.18.2593@koobera.math.uic.edu> Are qmail-pop3d and/or cucipop free? If so, where can one get them? -Neil _________________________________________________________________________ Neil Harkins nharkins@well.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08542; Fri, 13 Sep 96 13:16:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA01003 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:12:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA00997 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:12:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1eb0-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 13:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: 2 Blank Lines... Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 16:16:42 GMT Message-Id: <51c19h$4q2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <519r7g$64c@netnews.upenn.edu> Yes. Pine assumes that you're planning on placing your reply above the text you're replying to, so it puts you on a blank line with a blank line to separate your text from the original message. If you always put your reply after instead, go into your configuration and "x" the option that says: [ ] signature-at-bottom That should do it. It also, obviously, puts your .signature file at the bottom if you're having it automatically inserted. -Ram On 12 Sep 1996 20:18:56 GMT, hchapman@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Speed Racer) wrote: >Whenever I hit "r"eply in pine, pine places two blank lines before the >quoted text. Is there anyway to stop it from doing this? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09202; Fri, 13 Sep 96 13:29:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA01172 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:21:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA01167; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:21:49 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA18536; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:21:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:21:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Richard G. Roberto" , David Candlin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: More on HP pine 3.95 vs. rsh preauth to distant IMAP servers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK, we've now seen two reports in the past 24 hours of problems with rsh preauthentication when accessing an IMAP server from an HP workstation. o Have either of you tried the suggestion of using /user= syntax? If it solves the problem, I won't know why, but that's OK... o Do either of you have any non-HP boxes you can try? o Once you get logged in, is everything OK? (I assume if you bypass rsh, using the :143 syntax, everything works as expected, except the rsh preauthentication, of course.) o I gather it works sometimes but not other times, and that in both cases there is substantial distance between client and server. This suggests a timing-dependent problem (as well as apparently being HP specific.) o If you revert to 3.91 on the HP (IMAP client), does the problem go away? o If you increase the rsh timeout (need to edit the pinerc for this) does it make any difference? o Any other HP users with useful info? (either successes or failures?) David, regarding Pine asking you multiple times for name/password: please check your pinerc to make sure all references to the remote imap server "look the same", e.g. use the same symbolic name in all cases. If so, Pine *should* remember the name/passwd for subsequent connections to the *same* server for the duration of the session. But if the hostnames (in inbox, incoming folders, folder collections) have different forms, Pine will definitely prompt you again. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08767; Fri, 13 Sep 96 13:35:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA21366 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:32:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA21361 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:32:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1euG-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 13:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmartin@enterprise.net (Gary Martin) Subject: Re: Help for multiple emailings Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 20:25:54 GMT Message-Id: <51cg2d$l43@news.enterprise.net> References: <508o1f$3p8_002@fan.net.au> <3236F62D.24D0@pharmacy.com> Herb Parsons wrote: >JONATHAN GOODING wrote: >> >> I have formed a club recently, with a few devoted subscribers.... >> >> How to I send them all the same letter, but without putting each >> name in individually....I am sure there is a way...as the bulk >> emails can do it...but how ? >> >> Can someone please help me ! >Use the distribution list feature. Read the help file on Distribution lists. Basically it's a plain text file with one address per line. Pegasus allows you to automate the process whereby people on the list can send messages themselves to the list without your intervention (apart from you having to log on to collect mail). Hope this helps a little. Regards, Gary. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 15:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32324; Fri, 13 Sep 96 15:03:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA03685 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:57:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA03680 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:57:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1gDq-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 14:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:40:47 -0700 Message-Id: References: <519vb5$8ql@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <519vb5$8ql@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> On 12 Sep 1996, William Burrow wrote: > I'm attempting to use Pine as a POP client from this freenet with Pine > 3.91, but the result seems to be that the other machines must be running > IMAP. Since I am not administering one of the other machines, it would > be really nice if Pine could access the POP port directly, without this > IMAP thing. Is this possible? > > The syntax I am using is: > > {machine.dom/pop3}[] Are you trying to specify that as a folder-collection? That won't work because POP3 only supports one folder, INBOX. The only places it makes sense to list a POP3 reference is in inbox-path or incoming-folders, where you would use {machine.dom/pop3}INBOX Hope that helps! --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 15:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10817; Fri, 13 Sep 96 15:09:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA23757 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 15:04:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA23752 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 15:04:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1gHV-00038VC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 15:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Version 3.95 Buggy? Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:21:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On an in-house newsgroup, a rep from my service provider posted a > message today that they had deliberately decided against installing > Pine 3.95 because the tech people thought it was too buggy. (We are > on 3.94.) Unfortunately, she gave no details. Has anyone had bug > problems with 3.95? Thanks. That's curious. 3.95 is primarily bug fixes from 3.94. I can't imagine why anyone would prefer 3.94, with known crash-type bugs (and known bugs in filters!), to 3.95. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 17:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14622; Fri, 13 Sep 96 17:45:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA07419 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 17:43:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA07414 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 17:43:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1ilO-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Greg Putrich Subject: Re: porting 3.95 to Linux Date: 13 Sep 1996 16:56:02 -0700 Message-Id: <51csai$8mj@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <51bp7b$ci0@tick.cs.wm.edu> Luiz Felipe L. Perrone wrote: : Has anybody successfully ported Pine 3.95 to Linux ? : Any info would be very much appreciated. Please : email me directly as well as posting to the newsgroup. -- I found on my HD last night 3.95 for Linux. It was the binary for it and runs great. I don't remember where I got it tho. If you're interested, I can make it avail via anon-ftp. Let me know if you (or anyone else) wants the binary vers. I don't have the source code. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Putrich - Internet: gregp@primenet.com [PINE] Public Key 27E97EBD = 62 0E B9 A2 45 D2 64 AC 8A B4 6D 9D 5B 23 90 1F "This is not rocket science, it's brain surgery." - C.M. Burns From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14221; Fri, 13 Sep 96 18:10:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA07776 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:08:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA07765; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:08:23 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA05396; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:08:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Version 3.95 Buggy? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are some known problems with 3.95, but the serious ones seem to be platform-specific, so (fortunately) not everyone is seeing them. A couple that come to mind: o Display problems on AIX 4.2 (this is fixed by a small change to the build script for pico to use terminfo instead of termcap) o Wedging the whole OS on Solaris. This seems to be a bug in a Sun library, tickled by a zero-byte read. A patch was posted to this list a while back. -teg On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > On an in-house newsgroup, a rep from my service provider posted a > > message today that they had deliberately decided against installing > > Pine 3.95 because the tech people thought it was too buggy. (We are > > on 3.94.) Unfortunately, she gave no details. Has anyone had bug > > problems with 3.95? Thanks. > > That's curious. 3.95 is primarily bug fixes from 3.94. I can't imagine > why anyone would prefer 3.94, with known crash-type bugs (and known bugs > in filters!), to 3.95. > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" > > DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" > Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14900; Fri, 13 Sep 96 18:14:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA27525 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:12:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from helios.acomp.usf.edu (helios.acomp.usf.edu [131.247.100.17]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA27520 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:12:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (dmayas@localhost) by helios.acomp.usf.edu (8.7.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA07906 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:14:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Damaris Mayas (UND)" X-Sender: dmayas@helios To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't mean to ask a stupid question, but i'm very new to the e-mail, if I want to delete a message-I know I have to hit control d, once it is marked for deletion, how do I delete it? dmayas@helios.acomp.usf.edu thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03679; Fri, 13 Sep 96 19:15:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28361 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:13:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28356 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:13:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 13 SEP 96 18:11:35 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:11:35 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Main Menu Default Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there anyway to change the default so that the "I" - Index line is highlighted as opposed to "L" - Lists at the Main Menu (Pine 3.95)? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05961; Fri, 13 Sep 96 19:20:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28412 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:18:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28407 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:18:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1kEe-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 19:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Subject: Failed reply Date: 13 Sep 1996 00:52:16 GMT Message-Id: <51ab80$er1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Anyone ever encounter this. I use Tin for news reading. I reply to one post typing in a long reply. But later checking my Pine inbox, I get a message referring to mail delivery problems. So now what to do? If the reply failed, then I might as well post the message to usenet. But I don't want to go and type it in again. Maybe several pages. There ought to be a way around this. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15515; Fri, 13 Sep 96 19:21:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28436 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:19:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28431 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:19:40 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 13 SEP 96 18:15:41 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:15:41 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Rick Troxel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: cancel In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone explain why these "cancellation" messages are appearing? Is there some way to cancel a message after you've sent it? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Rick Troxel wrote: > -- > Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 > http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his > heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and > the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15446; Fri, 13 Sep 96 19:29:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28518 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:27:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28513 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:27:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 13 SEP 96 18:25:02 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:25:02 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Harry Slaughter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sign-on message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is working okay for me too, Harry. There is a message that does flash in the way that Paul described, but mine say "executing initial keystroke command." ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: > In setup/configuration, see what' set under "initial-key-stroke". I put an > "i" in there to open up my inbox upon opening pine. If you delete anything > that's set under that, you shouldn't get that error message. > > > On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > > On 10 Sep 1996, John Tessner wrote: > > > > > I have been getting a message which flashes for a second or two as I sign > > > on to PINE. > > > > > > [Bad initial keystroke "" (no comma set?) > > > > > > Does anyone know what this means? I asked our computer personnel here and > > > got no explanation. Thanks. > > > > I ran into that when I was trying to set up initial keystroke > > sequences on my terminal communications program's "hot keys." I never > > could figure out what Pine was bellyaching about. Meaningless, vague, > > ambiguous, useless, or unhelpful error messages are the bane of > > computers. Pine Team? The ball's in your court. > > > > Paul > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- > O | Boy, I wish they put Cracker | > o | Jax Prizes in Cheese Wiz!! | > . ----------------------------- > ~~~^~ > `0^0' > (* " *) > ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ > Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation > harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com > 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 > --------------------------------------------- > Harry's Homepage: > http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys > Check out the best new engine on the web: > http://ultra.infoseek.com > ============================================= > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15209; Fri, 13 Sep 96 19:40:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28692 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:37:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28683; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:37:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 13 SEP 96 18:33:30 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:33:30 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ^R:Background sending In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone reported problems with this feature? I set it up when I first saw it but assume it's safer to disable it if it's still considered "experimental." ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, David L Miller wrote: > The background-sending feature was added at the last minute and is > still pretty primitive. I would like to stress that this is an > _experimental_ feature! > > --DLM > > -- > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02890; Fri, 13 Sep 96 19:40:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28687 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:37:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28681 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:37:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 13 SEP 96 18:29:39 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:29:39 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Mary E Ervin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: print command In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mary, I'm getting the same response. Please let me know if you receive the answer to your question. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Mary E Ervin wrote: > I am unable to print from pine anymore. After viewing a message if I wish > to print it, I enter "Y"; pine asks me print message text using > "attached-to-ansi"?. If I answer yes it waits a moment then tells me > print is completed, but nothing printed. If I answer no it tells me the > print command was cancelled. What am I doing wrong, or not doing? I > could print previously. Suggestions welcomed. > Thanks > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15392; Fri, 13 Sep 96 19:54:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28909 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:52:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28903 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:52:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 13 SEP 96 18:50:20 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:50:20 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Adam Vardy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Failed reply In-Reply-To: <51ab80$er1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I never had this problem when I was using Tin. As a suggestion, accessing the newsgroups through Pine gets better & better everytime! There are lots of shortcuts to switch back & forth between news & mail and the Tin delay time in reading the .newsrc file is non-existent. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On 13 Sep 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > Anyone ever encounter this. I use Tin for news reading. I reply to one > post typing in a long reply. But later checking my Pine inbox, I get a > message referring to mail delivery problems. > > So now what to do? If the reply failed, then I might as well post the > message to usenet. But I don't want to go and type it in again. Maybe > several pages. There ought to be a way around this. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16279; Fri, 13 Sep 96 21:27:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA10326 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:23:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA10321 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:23:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1mCL-00038BC; Fri, 13 Sep 96 21:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meacham@teleport.com (Guy Meacham) Subject: Re: print command Date: 14 Sep 1996 04:14:32 GMT Message-Id: <51dbf8$6s1@nadine.teleport.com> References: Mary E Ervin (mee2@MUW.Edu) wrote: : I am unable to print from pine anymore. After viewing a message if I wish : to print it, I enter "Y"; pine asks me print message text using : "attached-to-ansi"?. If I answer yes it waits a moment then tells me : print is completed, but nothing printed. If I answer no it tells me the : print command was cancelled. What am I doing wrong, or not doing? I : could print previously. Suggestions welcomed. : Thanks : Did you change your terminal program or your terminal settngs, not all terminals handle print to ansi very well. I had lots of problems unill I switched to Netterm. -- Guy Meacham.......................finger -l meacham@teleport.com Rippingale Nursery...............http://www.teleport.com/~meacham/ . "I have come to the conclusion that politics are too serious a matter to be left to the politicians." -- Charles DeGaulle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 22:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16900; Fri, 13 Sep 96 22:11:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA10905 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 22:07:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU (vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.112.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id WAA10900 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 1996 22:07:56 -0700 Received: from vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU by vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU (PMDF V4.3-13 #6323) id <01I9H1SKB3XI8WWSMK@vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU>; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:10:04 +1000 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:10:04 +1000 From: u2144195@vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU Subject: i need help. To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT when people receive my e mail, i want them to see my name ( timothy) instead of seeing my e mail number u2144195 in their mail box. how do i do that? someone told me to go to set up, and type "c" to change the configuration, but i can't even get into "c". i am using pine. pls help. thanx. tim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18257; Sat, 14 Sep 96 00:34:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA12743 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:32:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from svr.bimp.pku.edu.cn (svr.bimp.pku.edu.cn [162.105.174.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA12732 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:31:30 -0700 Received: from [162.105.147.10] by svr.bimp.pku.edu.cn with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA18183; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:28:11 +0800 Received: from localhost by hs651.bimp.pku.edu.cn.bimp.pku.edu.cn (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06696; Sat, 14 Sep 96 15:30:36 CST Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:30:35 +0800 (CST) From: Dayong Liu To: "ML.pine" Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17881; Sat, 14 Sep 96 00:36:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA12769 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:34:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from xmission.xmission.com (xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id AAA12764 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:34:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (slick_rk@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id BAA19179; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 01:34:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 01:34:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Rick Reply-To: Rick To: u2144195@vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: i need help. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 14 Sep 1996 u2144195@vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU wrote: > > when people receive my e mail, i want them to see my name ( timothy) > instead of seeing my e mail number u2144195 in their mail box. > > how do i do that? someone told me to go to set up, and type "c" to change > the configuration, but i can't even get into "c". > > i am using pine. > OK well from pine you go to the Main Menu "M" and then type "S" for setup. And then you can type "C" for change configuration. Amiga/ / slick_rk@xmission.com 500 / / Rick Kelley \ \/ / 2725 Grant Ave. \/\/ Ogden, UT 84401 -------------------------------------------- Member of "Team AMIGA" -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 02:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16330; Sat, 14 Sep 96 02:36:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA14138 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 02:33:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU (vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.112.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id CAA14133 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 02:33:49 -0700 Received: from vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU by vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU (PMDF V4.3-13 #6323) id <01I9HB34UHOG8WXED9@vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU>; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:35:54 +1000 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:35:53 +1000 From: u2144195@vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU Subject: Re: i need help. In-Reply-To: To: Rick Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT it does not work, i am using pine 3.89, when i am in the main menu, and i type setup, the only choices i have are " change pass words, printers, options" . when i type " c" , nothing happens? any ideas? tim > > OK well from pine you go to the Main Menu "M" and then type "S" for setup. > And then you can type "C" for change configuration. > > > > Amiga/ / slick_rk@xmission.com > 500 / / Rick Kelley > \ \/ / 2725 Grant Ave. > \/\/ Ogden, UT 84401 > -------------------------------------------- > Member of "Team AMIGA" > -------------------------------------------- > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02394; Sat, 14 Sep 96 03:01:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA14367 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 02:59:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA14362 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 02:59:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1rSE-00038VC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 02:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: amiller@plexus.com Subject: Making New Mail Show Up Immediately Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 15:20:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3239C21F.7F8E@plexus.com> References: <51cdv3$gsc@decaxp.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to Pine, so forgive me if this is an abvious question, but how do I get new mail to show up right away? Currently I have to "up arrow" to get it to appear. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Andrew J. Miller | | Phone: (414)751-3522 Firmware Design Engineer | PLEXUS | Fax: (414)722-3220 Technology Group, Inc. | | Email: Andrew.Miller@plexus.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 03:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17314; Sat, 14 Sep 96 03:02:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA03904 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 02:59:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA03899 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 02:59:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1rS1-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 02:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atsai@course1.harvard.edu (sparrow) Subject: changing reply attribution? Date: 13 Sep 1996 19:50:59 GMT Message-Id: <51cdv3$gsc@decaxp.harvard.edu> the toggle in eudora is "ReplyAttribution=..." to change a reply intro from "at [time/date], [user] wrote:" to something customizable and possibly a little more annoying. what is the toggle for pine 3.95? i can't seem to find one. please email to:atsai@fas.harvard.edu thanks -a -- ----- ~ alexander c. tsai contact:finger -l atsai@fas.harvard.edu w3 http://www.virtually.net/~alex From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 03:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07107; Sat, 14 Sep 96 03:47:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA14877 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 03:45:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from svr.bimp.pku.edu.cn (svr.bimp.pku.edu.cn [162.105.174.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA14872 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 03:45:09 -0700 Received: from [162.105.147.10] by svr.bimp.pku.edu.cn with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA19305; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:42:02 +0800 Received: from localhost by hs651.bimp.pku.edu.cn.bimp.pku.edu.cn (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07581; Sat, 14 Sep 96 18:44:12 CST Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:44:11 +0800 (CST) From: Dayong Liu To: "ML.pine" Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19257; Sat, 14 Sep 96 04:03:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA04548 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 03:59:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA04543 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 03:59:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1sNL-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 03:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ucgadkw@ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Subject: previous-word in PICO Message-Id: <1996Sep13.144407.46223@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:44:07 GMT It would be *very* nice to have this! Say, ctrl+W or crtl+\ ? Dominik -- Best wishes, Dominik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 06:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20285; Sat, 14 Sep 96 06:38:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA16825 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 06:36:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA16820 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 06:35:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1upC-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 06:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 16:11:53 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Sep 1996, ness wrote: > Date: 6 Sep 1996 22:21:47 -0700 > From: ness > Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware, alt.os.linux, comp.mail.pine, > comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.setup > Subject: Using Pine as a POP Client. > > I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and > fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here > over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it > came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably > nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with > that in the From: field? > > > Yep. Two options. 1. Put "Reply-to:ness@scf.usc.edu" in the customised headers bar. 2. Compile pine yourself (A good chance to upgrade to 3.9.5 anyway), and enabled ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM at compile time, then put "From:ness@scf.usc.edu" in the custom headers option bar. I use the latter. As an aside, such a wide crosspost was unnecessary, since comp.mail.pine is the ideal group for this question ;) Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "May you live in.. Interesting Times." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 07:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20976; Sat, 14 Sep 96 07:54:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA07074 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 07:52:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA07069 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 07:52:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v1vy5-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 07:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeremy@hiway1.exit109.com (Jeremy) Subject: Re: Version 3.95 Buggy? Date: 14 Sep 1996 03:09:46 -0400 Message-Id: <51dlnq$279@hiway1.exit109.com> References: pobart@access.digex.net (Paul O Bartlett ) wrote: > On an in-house newsgroup, a rep from my service provider posted a >message today that they had deliberately decided against installing >Pine 3.95 because the tech people thought it was too buggy. (We are >on 3.94.) Unfortunately, she gave no details. Has anyone had bug >problems with 3.95? Thanks. I installed it systemwide several weeks ago, and haven't seen any problems, and have had no complaints from users. -- Jeremy jeremy@exit109.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 08:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03668; Sat, 14 Sep 96 08:26:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA17974 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 08:24:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA17969 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 08:24:08 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA12559; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 08:24:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 08:24:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: u2144195@vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU Cc: Rick , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: i need help. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, either get a version of Pine that isn't quite so ancient, or edit your .pinerc to add a personal name entry. -teg On Sat, 14 Sep 1996 u2144195@vmsuser.acsu.unsw.EDU.AU wrote: > > it does not work, i am using pine 3.89, when i am in the main menu, and i > type setup, the only choices i have are " change pass words, printers, > options" . when i type " c" , nothing happens? > > any ideas? > > tim > > > > > > OK well from pine you go to the Main Menu "M" and then type "S" for setup. > > And then you can type "C" for change configuration. > > > > > > > > Amiga/ / slick_rk@xmission.com > > 500 / / Rick Kelley > > \ \/ / 2725 Grant Ave. > > \/\/ Ogden, UT 84401 > > -------------------------------------------- > > Member of "Team AMIGA" > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 09:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21335; Sat, 14 Sep 96 09:00:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA18356 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 08:57:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA18351 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 08:57:32 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 15 Sep 96 00:02:37 +0800 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 23:54:24 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: amiller@plexus.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Making New Mail Show Up Immediately In-Reply-To: <3239C21F.7F8E@plexus.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Sep 1996 amiller@plexus.com wrote: > I am new to Pine, so forgive me if this is an abvious question, but how > do I get new mail to show up right away? Currently I have to "up arrow" > to get it to appear. ctrl-l (Control L) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10461; Sat, 14 Sep 96 09:59:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA08607 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 09:55:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cyber.cs.com (cyber.cs.com [204.252.76.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA08602 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 09:55:00 -0700 Received: from cyber.cs.com (karkar@cyber.cs.com [204.252.76.10]) by cyber.cs.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05608 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 12:54:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 12:54:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Karl Asseily To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problems opening pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using pine on MkLinux. When I open pine, I get a message (at the inbox screen) saying that my mailbox is opened by another process. Access is read-only. However, of course, if I su to root and run pine, it works fine. What can I do to restore pine to its normal functioning? Thanks for any help Karl ---- Karl Asseily E-Mail: karkar@cs.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20376; Sat, 14 Sep 96 15:09:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA22575 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:06:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA22570 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:06:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v22lU-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 15:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alfredo E. Alvarenga" Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 09:08:03 -0400 Message-Id: <323AAE33.591A5057@capecod.net> References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Javier Iglesias wrote: > > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? > > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? > > thanks! I use pine in tandem with a 'crontab' (cron is a utility to schedule jobs) entry that has popclient in the command field. It works fine. alfredo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23065; Sat, 14 Sep 96 15:12:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA12030 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:10:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA12025 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:10:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v22uO-00038VC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 15:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Keiko Subject: name in index folder Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:08:40 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using PINE 3.39 and I can't figure out how to make my personal name appear in the index folder when I post a message to a newsgroup. all it says is "To: {whatever newsgroup}" What can I do? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Keiko the PROCRASTINATOR!! Mistie #65670 "normal view! Normal View! NORMAL VIEW!! *NORMAL VIEW*!!!!!!" -Mike & the 'Bots from MST3K:TM "It's like...*MOONS and CRICKETS*." -Gisela J. Bowman "Wah-Unga!" -TV's Frank from Bloodlust "Grown-up people don't always know everything, though they try to pretend they do. That is called 'prestige,' and is responsible for most of the wars that devastate the continent of Europe." -Peter Wimsey in "Talboys" by DL Sayers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24293; Sat, 14 Sep 96 15:43:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA22934 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:40:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA22923 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 15:40:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v23N9-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 15:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin A. Walsh" Subject: pop3 bug? Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 16:44:38 -0500 Message-Id: <323B2746.3223@cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Im trying to set up pine to use from a sun and access a pop3 account. I use {mail.domain.edu/pop3}INBOX as my inbox address. I get to the LOGIN: and PASSWORD: prompts, but then pine (3.9) crashes with the error: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. Any suggestions? thanks -kev (please mail also) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18495; Sat, 14 Sep 96 17:01:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA23773 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 16:59:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca [134.153.80.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA23768 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 16:59:23 -0700 Received: by InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/14Mar94-1051AM) id AA29051; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 21:29:20 -0230 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 21:29:19 -0230 (NDT) From: Adam Vardy To: Linda Emerson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Failed reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Linda Emerson wrote: > I never had this problem when I was using Tin. As a suggestion, accessing > the newsgroups through Pine gets better & better everytime! There are > lots of shortcuts to switch back & forth between news & mail and the Tin > delay time in reading the .newsrc file is non-existent. > Well I like Tin better. With Pine you have to wade through many individual messages. I get some delay time with either program though. Takes about 30 seconds to read that file when starting Tin. My question is not about a problem with the program. I just wish there was some real simple way to deal with the situation where the e-mail address of some person given by the news server is not correct. I wish there was a simple way of posting that message once you find out there was a mail delivery problem, since replying by e-mail did not work. - Adam > ... : ... > :: > Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra > lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California > > On 13 Sep 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > > > > Anyone ever encounter this. I use Tin for news reading. I reply to one > > post typing in a long reply. But later checking my Pine inbox, I get a > > message referring to mail delivery problems. > > > > So now what to do? If the reply failed, then I might as well post the > > message to usenet. But I don't want to go and type it in again. Maybe > > several pages. There ought to be a way around this. > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12888; Sat, 14 Sep 96 17:18:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA13336 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:16:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA13331 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:16:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v24qh-00038VC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 17:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: changing reply attribution? Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:45:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: <51cdv3$gsc@decaxp.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51cdv3$gsc@decaxp.harvard.edu> On 13 Sep 1996, sparrow wrote on comp.mail.pine: > the toggle in eudora is > "ReplyAttribution=..." > > to change a reply intro from "at [time/date], [user] wrote:" to something > customizable and possibly a little more annoying. > > what is the toggle for pine 3.95? i can't seem to find one. To the best of my knowledge, generic (i.e., not modified at the source code level) Pine does not currently allow you to change the reply attribution on a global basis. You can always edit the attribution of each message individually when you are in the message editor. (I occasionally do this when I am replying to a mailing list which is not conducted in English.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24013; Sat, 14 Sep 96 17:32:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA24139 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:31:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA24134 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:31:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v254b-00038VC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 17:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Saving messages Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:43:54 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Marleigh, I've seen several reports of trouble from your site today. It looks like there were problems with the upgrade to Pine 3.95..... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Sep 1996, Marleigh Corinne Parker wrote: > > I can't save my messages, in fact, no one can. Please help. > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25621; Sat, 14 Sep 96 18:54:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA14327 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:52:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA14322 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:52:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v26ID-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 18:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Re[2]: Address books Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:01:45 -0700 Message-Id: References: <9608138426.AA842628175@mailya.yakima.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9608138426.AA842628175@mailya.yakima.com> On 13 Sep 1996 nobody@psg.com wrote: > Thank you everyone who made suggestions on how to use the UNIX > /etc/passwd list of users to create an .addressbook file (especially > Vladim Solnick). > > The problem is that creating a text file with only FULLNAME and > ADDRESS is not enough. A NICKNAME field must also be included. The > following is the script I used to create the .addressbook file: > > #!/bin/sh > # File: pine-addressbook > # What: Create a new global addressbook for the Pine email system. > echo "Creating global address list for Pine ..." > cut -d: -f1,5 /etc/passwd | tr ' ' '_' | tr ':' ' ' | \ > awk '{ > print $1 "\t" $2 "\t" $1"@companyname.com" "\t" "\t" > }' > /tmp/.addressbook.tmp > tr '_' ' ' < /tmp/.addressbook.tmp > /tmp/.addressbook.new > echo "1. The new global Pine address book is: /tmp/.addressbook.new" > echo "2. Be sure to edit out the 'garbage' email addresses, first." > echo "3. Then, move it into /usr/local/lib/.addressbook" > ## EOF You should also include "pine -create_lu" call to make the .lu file. Otherwise all of your users will be creating temporary .lu files each time they run Pine.... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25956; Sat, 14 Sep 96 18:56:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA24995 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:55:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from owens.ridgecrest.ca.us (owens.ridgecrest.ca.us [199.120.150.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA24990 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:55:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (philo@localhost) by owens.ridgecrest.ca.us (8.7.5/8.x) with SMTP id SAA24365 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Posted-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: owens.ridgecrest.ca.us: philo owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: gotta guess X-Sender: philo@owens To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have attempted to ask this question three times with my local support staff but have not received a reply from them. The server was just upgraded to a "new" version of time--maybe do to a recent hack but I thought that it was prior to that insident. Anyway, prior to this revision I was "talking" to several people in the same domain (different than mine) without much trouble. Every since this new pine version I can't reach a single one of those friends via my shell account...I have to use a specific talk program that I downloaded. I keep getting "waiting for invitation of caller's machine"...everytime, even when I know the person is not online. When I use my "talk" program then I can usually connect to that same person right away...any suggestions on why this is behaving this way...could it be my configuration that I need to change or is there something that I can request be done about this?? thank you for you time Patrick Hammond philo@ridgecrest.ca.us p.s. please use the signature address not the reply one...when that hack occured the security was to make us blind to the world by using the "gotta@guess" address. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20761; Sat, 14 Sep 96 19:43:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA14902 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:41:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA14897 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:41:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v275t-00038VC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 19:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan Shutko Subject: Re: Remapped Return Revisited Date: 11 Sep 1996 01:05:03 -0500 Message-Id: References: <5025c6$pba@hudson.idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.76) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>>> "MH" == Michael Hayden writes: MH> Someone suggested to me that NCSA Telnet was in fact sending ^J^M MH> (linefeed/carriage return) as its Return, and the telnetd on the MH> BSD machines was not weeding out the ^J before sending the Returns MH> on to Pine. Go into one of the preferences things (don't have a mac handy), and turn off Berkeley Line Mode. See if that fixes things. (It has on the machines we have with problems here.) -- Alan Shutko - The Few, the Proud, the Remaining. Sleazegate - The First Name in Disc Drives From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23964; Sat, 14 Sep 96 19:43:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA25535 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:41:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA25530 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:41:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v275s-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 19:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Pine planning to use autoconf? Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:51:52 +0100 Message-Id: References: <511h3h$qvf@host-04.colby.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <511h3h$qvf@host-04.colby.edu> On 9 Sep 1996, Jeff A. Earickson wrote: > Any plans to distribute UNIX pine with a GNU autoconf/configure script > in future releases, instead of the "build xxx" form used now? I sure would > like to see it. I didn't see any mention of this topic anywhere in the > FAQ. The FreePine project (a now divergant Pine development stream due to sad circumstances) is doing so, but the autoconf for it is embrionic at the moment. It would be nice if UW Pine would also try to do this. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06718; Sat, 14 Sep 96 19:44:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA25556 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:43:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bbs.mediawhse.com (grant.mediawhse.com [204.182.118.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA25551 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:43:00 -0700 Received: from [206.129.227.106] by bbs.mediawhse.com id 9cf70.wrk; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:39:50 PDT Message-Id: <323B7185.886@mediawhse.com> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 20:01:25 -0700 From: "The Hill's" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Morbid Angel X-Url: http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00447.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'l surprized i could find another person in the Washington area that likes Morbid Angel as much as i do! I wish they would tour here though..... you never know.... talk to ya later. I bend my knee not but for my selfish desire. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25750; Sat, 14 Sep 96 19:58:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA25701 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:56:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA25696 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:56:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v27La-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 19:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Failed reply Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <51ab80$er1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 02:24:08 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <51ab80$er1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 13 Sep 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > Anyone ever encounter this. I use Tin for news reading. I reply to one > post typing in a long reply. But later checking my Pine inbox, I get a > message referring to mail delivery problems. > > So now what to do? If the reply failed, then I might as well post the > message to usenet. But I don't want to go and type it in again. Maybe > several pages. There ought to be a way around this. You can export the bounced e-mail into a file. Then use a text editor to delete all the e-mail headers, with only the message body remaining in the file. When you enter TIN to compose your follow-up, include (or import) this file into your article. If your text editor is Pico, press ^R to import the text file; if Vi, type ":r filename". Hope this helps. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25319; Sat, 14 Sep 96 22:23:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA16477 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:16:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA16472 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:16:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v29VG-00038BC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 22:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carlos@borg.ucsf.edu (Carlos Robinson) Subject: Re: problems opening pine Date: 15 Sep 1996 04:30:16 GMT Message-Id: <51g0oo$v9d@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> References: Karl Asseily (karkar@cs.com) wrote: : I am using pine on MkLinux. : : When I open pine, I get a message (at the inbox screen) saying that my : mailbox is opened by another process. Access is read-only. : However, of course, if I su to root and run pine, it works fine. : What can I do to restore pine to its normal functioning? : You can run ps and grep for pine session and kill them. You are only looking for those with your user-id. Pine and other mailer put a file lock on /var/spool/mail/$user.mailbox file so others cannot use it while it's in use. -carlos From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27470; Sat, 14 Sep 96 22:28:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA27174 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:26:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA27169 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:26:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v29gF-00038YC; Sat, 14 Sep 96 22:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: Main Menu Default Date: 15 Sep 1996 05:06:31 GMT Message-Id: <51g2sn$c4p@dns.ktb.net> References: Linda Emerson (lindae@mlode.com) wrote: | Is there anyway to change the default so that the "I" - Index line is | highlighted as opposed to "L" - Lists at the Main Menu (Pine 3.95)? I don't think so. But you can have it automatically do the I option by setting initial-keystrokes=i in the configuration menu. The syntax is not necessarily right, but close enough so you can find it. Bev bashley@ktb.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Don't you just KNOW that there is more than one Sierra Club member who is absolutely sure that the dinosaurs died out because of something humans did? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 00:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26750; Sun, 15 Sep 96 00:34:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA18127 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 00:31:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA18122 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 00:31:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2BbN-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 00:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smartin@grizzly.henge.com (Steve Martin) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 14 Sep 1996 18:22:35 GMT Message-Id: References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> <510dvl$3e9@itw.com> On Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:39:23 -0400, Javier Iglesias wrote: >On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, reith wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> > >> > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? >> > >> > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? >> >> I think there is a POP version of pine but I am not sure. >> However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP. > >Yes.. I know about Netscape.. but sometimes I have to telnet from a >remote location that only has terminal capabilities.. so I can only run >pine.. but I'l check into the pop version of pine.. or maybe someone else >can tell me about a good poper for linux?? > There is an excellent utility available from sunsite called fetchpop. This can run as either a daemon or a command line to get mail from a specific pop server. It stores its preferences in a file which keeps your user name and password encrypted. Very good for security purposes. Suggest you try it out. -- __ ____ __ __ / / /_ | / /_ http://www.henge.com/~smartin __/ / /_ |/ /_ finger smartin@henge.com for pgp key From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 00:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28349; Sun, 15 Sep 96 00:41:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA28764 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 00:38:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA28759 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 00:38:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Bj7-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 00:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barry@value.net (Barry Friedman) Subject: Re: Question related to version 3.95 Date: 15 Sep 1996 07:30:14 GMT Message-Id: <51gba6$si6@vnetnews.value.net> References: <3228C796.791F@eecs.wsu.edu> Serban Boca - EECS (sboca@eecs.wsu.edu) wrote: : Hi all ! : : I have encountered the following problem when we updated to this 3.95 : version (running under HP-UX): In the "sent-mail" folder, the column : reserved for the recipients' addresses is, instead, filled out with the : sender address (i.e., my name). This is very inconvenient, because : whenever I open this folder to check on the e-mails that I sent, I only : see there my name on the whole column, instead of viewing the recipient : address. This thing didn't use to happen with the old 3.91 version that : we were running before. That is strange... I don't have that situation at all... I am using 3.95 also and just checked (hoping that I didn't have that situation!) and I see who I sent the mail to in that column... Barry Friedman Raspyni Brothers Visit the Raspyni Brothers' Homepage at: http://www.raspyni.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 02:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29209; Sun, 15 Sep 96 02:03:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA19070 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 01:53:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA19065 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 01:53:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2CsH-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 01:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Maan M. Hamze" Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:50:10 -0500 Message-Id: <32391232.7D992514@mail.utexas.edu> References: <1996Sep11.115526.9283@cs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In <1996Sep11.115526.9283@cs.mun.ca> cgushue@cs.mun.ca (Christopher Gushue) writes: > > >ness (ness@alcor.usc.edu) wrote: > >: I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and > >: fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here > >: over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it > >: came from root@scf.usc.edu Of course since it appears you are logging in as Root. Create an account in your username name as that of your e-mail and log in as Root and connect. Then log in as ness. >I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably > >: nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with > >: that in the From: field? > > Yes there is. in sendmail.cf change the "masquerade" line into: DMscf.usc.edu OR DMusa.net Your messages will appear as though they are comnig from ness@usa.net or the other one. And automatic replies will go this address. Then you can pick them up using pop3. M From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30374; Sun, 15 Sep 96 04:36:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA01256 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:25:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA01251 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:25:22 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbhgc05035; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05301; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:31:02 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22391; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:21:42 -0300 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:21:41 -0300 (GMT) From: roam X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: "Alfredo E. Alvarenga" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. In-Reply-To: <323AAE33.591A5057@capecod.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, can i make aliasses for hostnames like this: kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw can i put instead of that server a nickname , { kuc01 } and e-mail all the users that on that server by for example instead of el941826@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw i can put el941826@kuc01 and md950117@kuc01 thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30447; Sun, 15 Sep 96 04:58:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA01485 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:47:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA01480 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:47:54 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbhgb04687; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05292; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:20:30 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22334; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:11:08 -0300 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:11:07 -0300 (GMT) From: roam X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: Barry Friedman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Question related to version 3.95 In-Reply-To: <51gba6$si6@vnetnews.value.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi , i have pine 3.91. is there a new edition for pine thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 05:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29995; Sun, 15 Sep 96 05:33:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA01854 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 05:23:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA01849 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 05:23:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2GDE-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 05:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: porting 3.95 to Linux Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 13:01:06 +0000 Message-Id: References: <51bp7b$ci0@tick.cs.wm.edu> <51csai$8mj@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <51d1s1$r85@news.inforamp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51d1s1$r85@news.inforamp.net> On 14 Sep 1996, Ray Chow wrote: > Date: 14 Sep 1996 01:30:41 GMT > From: Ray Chow > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: porting 3.95 to Linux > > On 13 Sep 1996 16:56:02 -0700, Greg Putrich wrote: > >Luiz Felipe L. Perrone wrote: > > > >: Has anybody successfully ported Pine 3.95 to Linux ? > > > >: Any info would be very much appreciated. Please > >: email me directly as well as posting to the newsgroup. > > > >-- > >I found on my HD last night 3.95 for Linux. It was the binary for it and > >runs great. I don't remember where I got it tho. If you're interested, I > >can make it avail via anon-ftp. Let me know if you (or anyone else) wants > >the binary vers. I don't have the source code. > > Binaries for Linux are available at ftp.cac.washington.edu in directory > /pine/unix-bin-compressed > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 373811 Jul 15 15:45 imapd-bin.linux.Z > -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 259029 Jul 15 15:45 pico-bin.linux.Z > -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 255927 Jul 15 15:46 pilot-bin.linux.Z > -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 1772181 Jul 15 15:49 pine-bin.linux.Z > > -- > ray chow / canada / czg@inforamp.net aa813@freenet.hamilton.on.ca > > > In addition, some may find it useful to know that on slack 3.0, running 2.0.12 kernel, 3.95 will compile fine under linux. I can't speak for other systems, but I would assume a similar situation. :) Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "May you live in.. Interesting Times." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 07:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30155; Sun, 15 Sep 96 07:04:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA22246 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 07:02:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA22241 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 07:02:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Hln-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 07:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Filtering...how to? Date: 15 Sep 1996 09:58:39 -0400 Message-Id: References: <514lqg$p8k@news.Hawaii.Edu> If your mail is delivered to a Unix system, check out my Filtering Mail FAQ, which is accessible from either of these: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ Good luck, Nancy (posted and mailed) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31787; Sun, 15 Sep 96 09:06:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA04001 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:02:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA03995 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:02:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Je6-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 09:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: 3.95 on Digital UNIX V3.2C Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:24:34 -0700 Message-Id: References: <5149v6$loi@ulowell.uml.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5149v6$loi@ulowell.uml.edu> On 10 Sep 1996, Brian 'Doc' O'Neill wrote: > I just compiled and installed pine under Digital UNIX V3.2C (a.k.a. OSF/1), > but when I run it and compose a message under it, or when I reqeusted the > document since it was a "new version", I get the message > > sendsig: can't grow stack, pid 14836, proc pine, sig 11, pc 0x120103d9c > > Any ideas why this is happening??? > I don't have any magic solutions, but it does sound like a problem we need to look into. Could get a stack trace and send it to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu? (after a crash, run "gdb pine core" and give the "where" command) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32017; Sun, 15 Sep 96 09:26:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA04183 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:17:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA04178 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:17:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2JeJ-00038YC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 09:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: who to compile pine without rsh feature. Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:29:53 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Sep 1996, Haim S. wrote: > I have an imap server which suport a lot of pine 3.94 remote clients. > each time a client from some remote machine is trying to connect to the > imap server its take a lot of time until the connection is established. > the message "Opening "INBOX" " takes about 1 minute until i got the: > "ENTER LOGIN NAME: stots" from the host, > I guess it is because some try to open a remote shell or something, > can someone tell me what should i change in the source to make the > connection more fast ? To avoid the rsh timeout, either explicitly specify the port when you reference the server, e.g. inbox-path = {server:143}INBOX or specify rsh-timeout=0 in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31693; Sun, 15 Sep 96 09:34:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA23671 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:28:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA23666 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:28:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Jzq-00038YC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 09:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elephant@netrunner.net Subject: Partner Wanted Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:00:53 -0700 Message-Id: <3239BD75.59CF@netrunner.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Seeking Entrepreneurial Partner Could anyone suggest where I might go to post a notice about the following: "Seeking an active partner for a new web product who will be responsible for promotion to existing web site owners. Must be ambitious, aggressive, intelligent, and knowledgable about web and e-mail promotion. You don't need money--just ambition. Entrepreneurial traits are a real plus. May make some serious money. This is an opportunity to participate in profits through effort." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 10:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31905; Sun, 15 Sep 96 10:08:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA24083 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:59:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA24054 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:58:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA07726; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 18:53:51 +0200 (METDST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 18:53:51 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: "Kevin A. Walsh" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pop3 bug? In-Reply-To: <323B2746.3223@cornell.edu> Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= X-Caution: This message is _not_ sent on behalf of the organization! Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Kevin A. Walsh wrote: > Hi, > Im trying to set up pine to use from a sun and access a pop3 account. > I use {mail.domain.edu/pop3}INBOX as my inbox address. I get > to the=20 > LOGIN: > and=20 > PASSWORD: > prompts, but then pine (3.9) crashes with the error: >=20 > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > Exiting pine. 3.90 and 3.91 (and maybe 3.* < 3.90 too) had a bug in POP 3 code. Use 3.9= 5 Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, CZ 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 10:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32539; Sun, 15 Sep 96 10:37:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA05015 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 10:32:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA05010 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 10:32:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2L0N-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 10:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: i need help. Date: 15 Sep 1996 10:28:06 -0400 Message-Id: References: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: >Yes, either get a version of Pine that isn't quite so ancient, or edit >your .pinerc to add a personal name entry. If you're on a Unix system, another possibility is to try changing your /etc/passwd info by using the chfn command. I think Pine uses this info for the default full name (does someone know if that's true?) For some more info about customizing headers see my "Signature, Finger, and Customized Headers FAQ," which is accessible from either of these: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/signature_finger_faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/signature_finger_faq/ Good luck, Nancy (posted and mailed) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00505; Sun, 15 Sep 96 12:13:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA05989 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:06:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id MAA05984 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:06:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA14249; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:06:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:06:16 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Linda Emerson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ^R:Background sending In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I haven't really heard of any serious problems with background sending, but I have no idea how many people are actually using it either. One thing to watch out for is that it is possible to lose a message if Pine encounters a problem (e.g. /tmp gets full, you get disconnected, ...) It is not used unless you specifically tell Pine to use it (after pressing ^X, note the key menu), so it should be safe to enable it. We would also like to hear user feedback about how it works, so if you do try it and have any problems, please let us know! --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Linda Emerson wrote: > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:33:30 -0800 (PST) > From: Linda Emerson > X-Sender: lindae@mlode > To: David L Miller > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: ^R:Background sending > In-Reply-To: > Message-ID: > > Has anyone reported problems with this feature? I set it up when I first > saw it but assume it's safer to disable it if it's still considered > "experimental." > > ... : ... > :: > Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra > lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California > > On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > > The background-sending feature was added at the last minute and is > > still pretty primitive. I would like to stress that this is an > > _experimental_ feature! > > > > --DLM > > > > -- > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00607; Sun, 15 Sep 96 12:26:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA06144 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:18:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA06139 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:18:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Mfy-00038bC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 12:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan Shutko Subject: Re: alias loop Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:00:42 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3225C465.2A5F@charon.ns.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.76) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>>> "RH" == Richard Hall writes: RH> I can no longer send mail with pine, as every time I try, it RH> reports "possible alias loop", then I get from the Mailer-Daemon: If you are getting a message from the Mailer-Daemon, the problem is with the /etc/aliases file, not pine. -- Alan Shutko - The Few, the Proud, the Remaining. A dog is a dog, a bird is a bird, a cat is a person. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00579; Sun, 15 Sep 96 12:27:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25635 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:18:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25628 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:18:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Mft-00038aC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 12:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Suggestion For Future Release Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:17:26 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Sep 1996, Steven Feinholz wrote: > Some email programs, like Sun's 'mailtool' allow the > message to be sent to be retained after actually > sending it out. You can do this with pine. Go into the main menu (M) then set-up (S) then config (C) and look for default-fcc. Use pine's help facility from there. -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23746; Sun, 15 Sep 96 12:27:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25626 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:18:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25621 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:18:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Mfl-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 12:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: James Shattuck Subject: ^R:Background sending Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:59:22 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just found a great new feature of Pine: enable-background-sending in Configure Then, when sending, you have the option to let the system deliver it at its leasure. My only question is, however, does it attempt more than once if the server is so busy that the send command bounces back? It doesn't seem to here, it sends a message saying to go back to compose and resend it. I didn't do anything, and it never tried again for the next 5 minutes. It would seem to me to be true a "background" operation to continue attempting on its own. IMHO, James ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Alan Shattuck Computer Science Major Disabled Student Services - High Tech Center CSU, Chico 898-5959 DSS Home Page: http://www.csuchico.edu/dss/ Born: 9/3/63 Adopted: 7/71 as Anthony Douglass, San Francisco, Ca Searching for Birth Family Adoption Home Page: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~progman/adoption ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00672; Sun, 15 Sep 96 12:30:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA06137 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:18:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA06132 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:18:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Mfq-00038YC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 12:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwking@fox.nstn.ca (Donald W. King) Subject: Disabling Mail Sending Privileges - pine.txt [1/1] Date: 11 Sep 1996 12:25:27 GMT Message-Id: <516b3n$ns7@news.nstn.ca> We are in the process of setting up a freenet site. One of our concerns is disk space (of course). Already we can see that some members are not deleting old messages and have large mail-boxes. One suggestion is to prevent them from sending new messages until they reduce the disk space used for their old messages (after suitable warnings). We did not want to totally disable their mail or purge their mail-boxes automatically as they could have important messages coming in or may be saving special information. Is there a way in pine to disable "Compose Messages" for individual users? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03917; Sun, 15 Sep 96 19:13:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA08838 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:50:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA08833; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:50:29 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA29550; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:49:06 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:49:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Dale Bewley Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.95 Solaris Term EMU broken? In-Reply-To: <323840DB.1C46@iupui.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dale, One of the things that changed after 3.91 (for *some* OS platforms) was a switch from using the termcap database to the terminfo database. I can't recall if Solaris is in the group that we understood would be better served by terminfo, but I think most anything with heavy Unix SytemV influence got that treatment. Any chance your terminfo database is faulty for the terminal types in question? -teg On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Dale Bewley wrote: > I recently upgraded from 3.91 to 3.95 now my users' say that the > terminal emulation seems to be broken. When they read mail they > get double lines, the cursor will not be where it appears. > > Things were fine in 3.91. I installed a precompiled pine for Solaris > 2.4. Ideas? > > -- > # Dale Bewley > $contact = ( mailto:dlbewley@iupui.edu || > http://www.engr.iupui.edu/~dbewley/perl/ ); > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02455; Sun, 15 Sep 96 19:18:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA10336 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:12:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA10329 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:12:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2S4K-00038aC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 18:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Automatic generation of .lu files? Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:44:56 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Sep 1996, Matt Simmons wrote: > We use a global address book that is automagically generated every night, > but we also need a way of automagically generating the .lu file. (or > getting pine to stop complaining about not finding the global .lu file) > Does anybody have a program to do that? > Have the script (or program) that builds the global addressbook issue the following command pine -create_lu addressbook order where "addressbook" is the name (or pathname) of the global addressbook file and "order" is one of the choices listed in the Setup/Config screen under sort-key. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29108; Sun, 15 Sep 96 19:23:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA10318 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:12:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA10303 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:12:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Nsi-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 13:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert mail address lists between mailers Date: 15 Sep 1996 19:43:30 GMT Message-Id: <51hm92$m13@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora, Netscape, Pine and Elm All possible translations are supported. You can find these at www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03747; Sun, 15 Sep 96 19:24:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA10327 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:12:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA10322 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:12:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2PFD-00038YC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 15:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: velasquj@mail.sdsu.edu (Juan david Velasquez) Subject: ---->HELP!<---- Date: 15 Sep 1996 21:58:05 GMT Message-Id: <51hu5d$fhq@hole.sdsu.edu> Well, I was using Pine 3.95 and for some reason i deleted my Saved-Messages folder and I can't seem to find them. I'm a student at SDSU and I use telnet to get into the UNIX 4.0 server at school. How do I go about recovering this info? Any help would be appreciated. Please respond by email. thanks, john velasquj@rohan.sdsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04738; Sun, 15 Sep 96 19:54:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA00793 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:45:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA00788 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:45:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Taf-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 19:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tushar Teredesai Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:10:57 -0500 Message-Id: <323C38A1.60A9B11B@Agents.ECE.IIT.Edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I added the Reply-to (actually I've been trying to do that for a long time now) and whenever I read the message in pine, the reply-to tag is not recognized but other mailers like NetScape do recognize the same tag. My mistake was I was always trying to read the message thru pine and thought that I was making some mistake. How do I get pine to recognize pine to use the reply-to address. BTW, I tried an interesting expt. I sent a mail to one of my accounts from pine and from netscape with the Reply-To tags and used pine to read the mails. For the mail received from pine; the reply-to tag was not recognized while for the netscape one, it was. (I saw the mail file in vi editor and saw that both the lines had the same syntax. Then I copied the reply-to line from the netscape part of the mail and copied it to the mail from the pine and restarted pine. This time it recognized the reply-to tag. Any comments?? Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: > > : On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > : > On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Glen Wooten wrote: > : > > [...] > : > [...] Scroll down to > : > customized-hrs and add the Reply-to: ... that you want. (When in > : > doubt, check the context-sensitive online Help screens.) > : Keep in mind that if you only type in "Reply-to", that's all that will > : appear from your composer. > > I am aware of that. That's why I wrote "Reply-to: ..." with the > colon and ellipses to show that you will probably want to fill in the > actual reply-to address. That's why I also said to check the help > screens. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -- -->> http://Tushar.Home.ML.Org -->> mailto:Tushar@Agents.ECE.IIT.Edu Running Linux; Cos anything else would be a waste... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04957; Sun, 15 Sep 96 20:30:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA11601 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:25:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from taz.gonzaga.edu (taz.gonzaga.edu [147.222.1.253]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA11596 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:25:43 -0700 Received: from [147.222.29.217] by taz.gonzaga.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA24593; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:41:03 -0700 Message-Id: <323CBB3D.74C0@jepson.gonzaga.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:28:13 -0600 From: "P. Pete Chong" Organization: Gonzaga University X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Suppress addresses at header X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00123.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are using HP9000 running UNIX. Would you tell me how to suppress all names in a mailing list? It is rediculous that one sentence comes after 2 pages of email addresses. :-) Since this system is just put in, our CIS personnel could not help me. You are my last hope. :) Thanks. Pete --- http://www.gonzaga.edu/academic/business/graduate For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05500; Sun, 15 Sep 96 20:58:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA01744 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:49:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA01736 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:49:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2UfX-00038YC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 20:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Oldfield Subject: [Q] Copying sent messages to folders Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:31:23 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Currently I have pc-pine 3.95 set up so that all messages I send get copied into a SentMail folder. What I would like to do is to be able to save sent messages into different folders depending on what they were about, etc. Is there any way I can have pine ask me which folder I would like to copy the message to as I am sending it or something. I know about the Fcc field on my address book but I would rather classify them by what they are about than by who I am sending them to. Any suggestions much appreciated. Please reply by email to S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au. Thanks in advance Simon Oldfield _____________________________________________________________________ Simon Oldfield Email: S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au CSC Australia Phone: +61 6 262 1128 A Unit of Computer Sciences Corporation Fax: +61 6 273 2116 _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07044; Sun, 15 Sep 96 23:16:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA13687 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:10:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA13679 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:10:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Wo6-00038BC; Sun, 15 Sep 96 23:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: Who's fault ? Pine ? Mine ? Yours ? Date: 16 Sep 1996 04:36:59 GMT Message-Id: <51ilhb$do@dns.ktb.net> References: Clint Danbury (danbury@ssnshirt.com) wrote: | I could not receive the test of the message. | I also could not receive the text of the error; I believe that I remember | something about the word "connection" in there. | So, anyway, did I cause this error ? Did my service provider cause this | error ? Did pine cause this error ? Wild-assed guess here, based on my own experience. The problem was probably caused by something your service provider did or didn't do. Shit happens. Somebody flips a switch. Somebody makes an error when reconfiguring something. Somebody falls over a wire. Somebody spills his coffee into the works. Lightning strikes something important. Happens all the time, but it's just part of the game. Try to repeat what you did as soon as possible. If it burps again, try to email or phone your provider immediately and tell him what happened. It's really annoying that error messages disappear so quickly. Can your terminal software do scrollbacks? Procomm (pcplus) can, and I'd guess that most other software can do it too. Really useful for LOTS of stuff that passes by too quickly to see. | Should I quit using Pine ? Is this common with pine ? Not common, and probably doesn't have anything to do with pine. I've used it on two different systems in 3 years, and like it a lot. Easy to use, capable, etc. (BTW, there may be a file called something like dead.letter in your home directory or maybe your mail directory -- pine tries to save things for you if it can. If it's there, copy it to some other filename before it gets overwritten by another dead letter, and you're back in business.) | What's the best way to avoid this in the future ? Nix telnet and pay for | a real telephone call ? Don't know how to avoid it, but your provider(s) might be able to explain what happened. If you're writing something long, you might either save it frequently or compose it off-line and upload it when you log in. (Yeah, like I do it *all* the time myself! Like I've never lost *anything* because I'm always soooooo careful!) Bev bashley@ktb.net *************************************************************** "I drive entirely too fast to be worried about the food I eat." -- M. Carlton From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06150; Sun, 15 Sep 96 23:59:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA03946 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:50:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id XAA03941 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:50:21 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbhjn25781; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 02:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06333; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:50:21 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26415; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:41:04 -0300 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:41:03 -0300 (GMT) From: butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII where can i get the lastest version of pine thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06960; Mon, 16 Sep 96 01:11:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA04773 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:04:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA04768 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:04:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Ydk-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 01:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: Main Menu Default Date: 16 Sep 1996 07:48:24 GMT Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit [Linda Emerson:] >Is there anyway to change the default so that the "I" - Index line is >highlighted as opposed to "L" - Lists at the Main Menu (Pine 3.95)? Sure. In the configuration menu, set initial-keystrokes=UP See the help text behind the initial-keystrokes option. -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi University of Helsinki * Nordica / Institute of literature From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07436; Mon, 16 Sep 96 01:17:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA15009 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:11:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA15004 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:10:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2YkE-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 01:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Stewart Subject: 32-bit PC-Pine: attachment filenames Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 00:53:53 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using the Win32 winsock version of PC Pine. Whenever I try to attach to a message, it seems that PC Pine has real trouble with filenames that have spaces. The short-term solution is to use the 8.3 filename of course, but this is awkward because it's easier to be able to pick a file from a list. Are there any plans to fix this? ----------------------------- Bill Stewart wstewart@unm.edu http://www.unm.edu/~wstewart/ ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 02:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01084; Mon, 16 Sep 96 02:04:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA15488 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:56:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA15483 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:56:04 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 16 Sep 96 17:01:10 +0800 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:52:53 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Bill Stewart Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 32-bit PC-Pine: attachment filenames In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Bill Stewart wrote: > I'm using the Win32 winsock version of PC Pine. > > Whenever I try to attach to a message, it seems that PC Pine has > real trouble with filenames that have spaces. The short-term > solution is to use the 8.3 filename of course, but this is > awkward because it's easier to be able to pick a file from a > list. > > Are there any plans to fix this? I've not tried PC-Pine....but do you have any better luck if you enclose the filename in quotes? Regared, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 02:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08463; Mon, 16 Sep 96 02:27:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA05615 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 02:19:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA05610 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 02:19:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2Zp1-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 02:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ummonkm4@cc.umanitoba.ca (Christian Benjamin Monkman) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 12 Sep 96 18:10:11 GMT Message-Id: References: <1996Sep11.115526.9283@cs.mun.ca> In <1996Sep11.115526.9283@cs.mun.ca> cgushue@cs.mun.ca (Christopher Gushue) writes: >ness (ness@alcor.usc.edu) wrote: >: I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and >: fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here >: over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it >: came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably >: nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with >: that in the From: field? > Check your pinerc file, there is a section in there for custom headers. In there, add a Reply-To: field, and put the email address you want replies to the message to go. -- Christian_Monkman@UManitoba.ca http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~ummonkm4/ No relation. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 05:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09809; Mon, 16 Sep 96 05:25:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA17801 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 05:20:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA17796 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 05:20:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2cav-00038YC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 05:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Horst Michael Meissner Subject: Problems with sending mail: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:17:21 +0200 Message-Id: <323D3741.77A7@tkm.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Problems with sending mail: If I use default sendmail-path= Then sendmail hangs an it will not mail the message. If I use a stript like this to send (not send): #!/bin/ksh cat > /tmp/testmail I'll find in the file /tmp/testmail the folowing stuff: --------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:04:10 +0200 (MESZ) From: "Horst M. Meissner" Reply-To: horst.meissner@tkm.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de To: Horst Michael Meissner To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Subject: test Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII laber laber Horst ---------------------------------------------------------- I can not understand this whats the second TO:Undisclosed recipients: ; ??????? If I use the sendit.sh script to send then the mail is send to me but a second mail comes back from mailerdaemon with ;@tkm.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de unknown ....... Horst Meissner From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03697; Mon, 16 Sep 96 06:03:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA08179 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 05:56:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA08174 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 05:56:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2dBw-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 05:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: EMACS AS ALTERNATE EDITOR? Date: 16 Sep 1996 12:49:17 GMT Message-Id: <51jicd$129@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: edelstein@crd.ge.com (William Edelstein) writes: > I have tried to use EMACS as the alternative editor. When I hit ^_ , >the screen blinks momentarily and then gives me the message "Alternative >editor abnormally terminated (255)". Any suggestions? Perhaps you need to set some different startup flags in the setup? Have you tried it with "enable-alternate-editor-explicitly" (or whatever) set? This causes it to automatically give you your preferred editor whenever it would give you pico. I have set jove. >-- >William A. Edelstein >GE Corporate R&D >Schenectady, NY 12309 >edelstein@crd.ge.com -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10180; Mon, 16 Sep 96 06:06:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA18266 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:00:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA18261 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:00:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2dG2-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 05:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Version 3.95 Buggy? Date: 16 Sep 1996 12:55:39 GMT Message-Id: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: >There are some known problems with 3.95, but the serious ones seem to be >platform-specific, so (fortunately) not everyone is seeing them. >A couple that come to mind: > o Display problems on AIX 4.2 (this is fixed by a small change to > the build script for pico to use terminfo instead of termcap) > o Wedging the whole OS on Solaris. This seems to be a bug in a > Sun library, tickled by a zero-byte read. A patch was posted > to this list a while back. Could you please repost this or give information on where to find it. A disk crash ate my news archives a few weeks ago. Is the specific posted fix incorporated in future versions of pine? Currently I have frozen GMI at 3.91 because of specific bugs in each version since 3.91. >-teg >On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: ... -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24414; Mon, 16 Sep 96 06:56:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA08898 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:44:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dxmint.cern.ch (dxmint.cern.ch [137.138.26.76]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA08893; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:44:49 -0700 Received: from hpatl01.cern.ch (hpatl01.cern.ch [128.141.202.72]) by dxmint.cern.ch with SMTP id PAA28079; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:44:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost by hpatl01.cern.ch with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA07664; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:44:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:44:45 +0200 (METDST) From: David Candlin X-Sender: candlin@hpatl01.cern.ch Reply-To: David Candlin To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: More on HP pine 3.95 vs. rsh preauth to distant IMAP servers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you. In fact, I got the hint to use "{bla.bla/user=me}INBOX}" within an hour from Vladimir Solnicky in Prague, and my problem was solved. My login names at home (mail repository) and at CERN are different. By the way, if you go to the folder-list screen (command L) and type ? it tells you about allowable specifications, *not* including "/user=". David Candlin On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > OK, we've now seen two reports in the past 24 hours of problems with rsh > preauthentication when accessing an IMAP server from an HP workstation. > > o Have either of you tried the suggestion of using /user= syntax? > If it solves the problem, I won't know why, but that's OK... > > o Do either of you have any non-HP boxes you can try? > > o Once you get logged in, is everything OK? > (I assume if you bypass rsh, using the :143 syntax, everything > works as expected, except the rsh preauthentication, of course.) > > o I gather it works sometimes but not other times, and that in both cases > there is substantial distance between client and server. This suggests > a timing-dependent problem (as well as apparently being HP specific.) > > o If you revert to 3.91 on the HP (IMAP client), does the problem go > away? > > o If you increase the rsh timeout (need to edit the pinerc for this) > does it make any difference? > > o Any other HP users with useful info? (either successes or failures?) > > David, regarding Pine asking you multiple times for name/password: > please check your pinerc to make sure all references to the remote > imap server "look the same", e.g. use the same symbolic name in all cases. > If so, Pine *should* remember the name/passwd for subsequent connections > to the *same* server for the duration of the session. But if the > hostnames (in inbox, incoming folders, folder collections) have > different forms, Pine will definitely prompt you again. > > -teg > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 07:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10515; Mon, 16 Sep 96 07:05:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA09040 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:55:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA09035 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 06:55:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2e5o-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 06:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wkasdo@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Willem Kasdorp) Subject: attachment extraction bug? Message-Id: <1996Sep16.133229.25940@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:32:29 GMT I have a problem saving an attachment. At the end of this posting I have appended a mail sent to myself showing the problem. The attachment is a text file, sent to me as type application/octet stream, and it is NOT base64 encoded. The original file has lines ending in LF characters, as is normal for UNIX system. However, when I save or view the attachment PINE adds CR (^M) characters! This is clearly wrong, since PINE should never try to modify (presumably) binary files. I am running PINE 3.95 on a SunOS Unix box. I can forward the mail exhibiting the problem to any interested parties. The questions: is this a bug or a feature, and how can I correct this behaviour? -- best regards, Willem Kasdorp (wkasdo@nikhefk.nikhef.nl) P.S. From wkasdo@paranimf.nikhefk.nikhef.nl Fri Sep 13 18:04:48 1996 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:04:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Willem Kasdorp To: Willem Kasdorp Subject: test fwd appl Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=2adf_2761-5c4a_403d-2843_3d00 Content-ID: Status: O X-Status: --2adf_2761-5c4a_403d-2843_3d00 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Body of test message --2adf_2761-5c4a_403d-2843_3d00 Content-Type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM Content-ID: Content-Description: weirdfile This is normal text. There are NO carriage returns (^M) characters at the end of these lines in the original mail. --2adf_2761-5c4a_403d-2843_3d00-- -- drs W-J. Kasdorp e-mail: wkasdo@nikhefk.nikhef.nl NIKHEF Tel. : (+31)-(0)20-5922074 P.O. Box 41882 Fax : (+31)-(0)20-5925155 1009 DB Amsterdam, Netherlands URL : http://www.nikhefk.nikhef.nl/~wkasdo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14368; Mon, 16 Sep 96 09:25:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA22132 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:20:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA22125 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:20:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2gMG-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 09:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Grosso Subject: Re: Who's fault ? Pine ? Mine ? Yours ? Date: 16 Sep 1996 16:01:24 GMT Message-Id: <51jtkk$7pp@news.wco.com> References: In wco.general Clint Danbury wrote: : I'm using telnet, and so I have become accustomed to the cursor not : responding to my keystrokes. I have also become accustomed to waiting for : actions to occur; frequently 30-to-90 seconds or so. You're using Pine to post to the usenet? Try using tin - the right program for the right job. Chances are you lost connection with the newsserver if you took a long time to make a post but knowing what the error message was would help - a whole lot. Trying to figure out the answer to a problem when the only clue is "It didn't work" is not that easy. Also - it's very rare that the response time using my shell account is that delayed. It happens now and then for a few seconds but not 30-90 seconds. If you're looking for a place to lay blame, it sounds like something is wrong with the configuration of your comm program, modem settings or port configuration. I don't think those LONG delays are a regular thing. Is anyone else having those sort of problems? - Paul ---------------- Paul Grosso Paulg@wco.com http://www.wco.com/~paulg/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14676; Mon, 16 Sep 96 09:36:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA12442 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:32:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA12437 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:31:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2gY9-00038eC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 09:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdenham@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (root) Subject: Help - Sendmail pulling off som x-sender header Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:25:19 GMT Message-Id: <51jo0f$s6t@client3.news.psi.net> Hello, I'm running sendmail on slackware 3.0 and everything appears to be working fine with the exception of one user from his provider. I was running sendmail on a Sun Sparc, but after changing to linux this problem has popped up. It appears that sendmail is pulling off a header or something which shows his actual account ID from his ISP. The mail appears to be from mail05955 where it was showing up as preilly@isoquantic.com. Thanks in advance. Tom Denham - System Administration tdenham@aircom.com Melbourne, FL 32901 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14897; Mon, 16 Sep 96 09:42:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA22441 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:35:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA22436 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:35:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2gbz-00038eC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 09:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul theodoropoulos Subject: Re: Who's fault ? Pine ? Mine ? Yours ? Date: 16 Sep 1996 16:13:49 GMT Message-Id: <51jubt$7uu@news.wco.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In wco.general Clint Danbury wrote: : I'm using telnet, and so I have become accustomed to the cursor not : responding to my keystrokes. I have also become accustomed to waiting for : actions to occur; frequently 30-to-90 seconds or so. : Tonight I just spent about 15 minutes composing a message to a newsgroup. [deletia] : So, anyway, did I cause this error ? Did my service provider cause this : error ? Did pine cause this error ? : Should I quit using Pine ? Is this common with pine ? [further deletia] Three points: First - since this is cross-posted to comp.mail.pine, I should note that Mr. Danbury telnets into our system from another state, from a disjoint network. So sluggishness/choppiness could occur anywhere along the path from there to here and back again. Second: MCI issued an advisory concerning assorted routing problems across their backbone at about the time that Mr. Danbury was experiencing difficulties. So I would assume that that is what was causing the problems at that time. Third: Here's a traceroute I just ran to the site Mr. Danbury connects from. I think there may be serious problems elsewhere... traceroute to news.ti.com (192.94.94.33), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 hssi.wco.com (199.4.94.90) 4 ms 3 ms 2 ms 2 gw2 (204.70.161.65) 12 ms 25 ms 11 ms 3 borderx1-fddi-1.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.158.52) 10 ms 20 ms 17 ms 4 core1-hssi-2.Bloomington.mci.net (204.70.1.41) 49 ms 31 ms 228 ms 5 166.48.76.1 (166.48.76.1) 56 ms 58 ms 63 ms 6 core1-hssi-3.Houston.mci.net (204.70.1.122) 94 ms 92 ms 61 ms 7 core1-hssi-3.Houston.mci.net (204.70.1.122) 61 ms 61 ms 65 ms 8 border1-fddi-0.Houston.mci.net (204.70.2.98) 84 ms 87 ms 235 ms 9 sesquinet.Houston.mci.net (204.70.36.6) 60 ms 60 ms 66 ms 10 HOU1-F10.SESQUI.NET (192.67.13.181) 68 ms 63 ms 65 ms 11 HOU4-F20.SESQUI.NET (128.241.200.84) 65 ms 60 ms 240 ms 12 128.241.75.34 (128.241.75.34) 127 ms 111 ms 124 ms 13 TI-S1.SESQUI.NET (128.241.5.178) 150 ms 152 ms 711 ms 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * *^C -- Paul Theodoropoulos admin@wco.com Vice President West Coast Online, Inc. The Nicest Guy on the Internet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20433; Mon, 16 Sep 96 13:23:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA28754 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:17:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA28749 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:17:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2k1g-00038YC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 13:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pine@connections.co.uk Subject: Would you use a different mail method? Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:50:43 +0000 Message-Id: <32385B83.7F81@connections.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, We're doing research into an amazing new way of using the Net. We're trying to get as many people as possible from around the world to answer a few simple questions about their uses of e-mail. We'd value your input; and all you need to do is follow this link: http://research.connections.co.uk/pine Thanks very much! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07830; Mon, 16 Sep 96 13:23:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA18829 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:17:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA18824 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:17:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2k1g-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 13:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa126@fan1.fan.nb.ca (William Burrow) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 12 Sep 1996 21:29:09 GMT Message-Id: <519vb5$8ql@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> I'm attempting to use Pine as a POP client from this freenet with Pine 3.91, but the result seems to be that the other machines must be running IMAP. Since I am not administering one of the other machines, it would be really nice if Pine could access the POP port directly, without this IMAP thing. Is this possible? The syntax I am using is: {machine.dom/pop3}[] -- -- William Burrow -- Fredericton Area Network From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21695; Mon, 16 Sep 96 14:10:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA00237 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:04:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA00231 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:04:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA22332 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:04:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:04:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The following is a plain-text version of the HTML document currently found on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html -------------------------------------------------------- Frequently Asked Questions about Pine What documentation is available for Pine? The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive online help. Additional documentation, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, and information on where to obtain the software, can be accessed: * In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ * Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. + The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] _________________________________________________________________ Who should I ask for help with Pine? If you need assistance with Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using Pine. Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users. University of Washington Pine users, please contact your departmental computer support staff; or send email to: help@cac.washington.edu You may also be able to find the answer to your question through the Pine Discussion Forum -- see http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ _________________________________________________________________ Why does command X not work? Some of the Pine commands you may read or hear about have to be explicitly enabled in the SETUP CONFIGURATION menu, which is accessed from Pine's MAIN MENU, to be functional. For example, to be able to use the "Bounce" command, the following feature has to be checked: [X] enable-bounce-cmd and to be able to use the "Select"/"Apply" operations, you must first check: [X] enable-aggregate-command-set _________________________________________________________________ How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Once you have successfully set up your delivery filtering, you will have new mail arriving in several different folders, in addition to your INBOX. You can then access these folders just like any other mail folder. You can also define a collection of incoming message folders in Pine, through which you can then TAB to read new messages. For more information, see Pine's internal help on the enable-incoming-folders feature in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu. _________________________________________________________________ How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Config. Move down to the customized-hdrs option and read the context-sensitive help screen. _________________________________________________________________ How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Signature. The text you enter in the SIGNATURE EDITOR (new in Pine 3.92) will be appended to all messages you compose. _________________________________________________________________ How do I send a message to multiple recipients without showing all their names? In Pine's message composer, with the cursor in the message headers area, press Ctrl-R ("rich headers"). Then read the context-sensitive help screens for the Bcc: and Lcc: fields. _________________________________________________________________ How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment to a message I send? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to "understand" Pine's attachments. If the recipient of your message with attachment does not have MIME-capable email software, they should be able to save the attachment to a file and then decode that. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu//pub/mpack _________________________________________________________________ Can Pine be used with a POP server? As of version 3.95, PC-Pine cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. Pine for Unix can be configured to access the message INBOX on a POP3 server using the folder definition syntax {pop3server/pop3}INBOX where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server. However, this method accesses the POP server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between sessions. As an alternative, a program such as popclient can be used to download email from a POP server to a local Unix account, where it can then be accessed with Pine. One location from which popclient can be obtained is: ftp://ftp.mal.com/pub/pop/ Note: support for the offline mode of email access (using either POP or IMAP) is planned for a future release of Pine and PC-Pine. For a more detailed comparison of the POP and IMAP protocols, see Message Access Paradigms and Protocols at the URL: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.html _________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21545; Mon, 16 Sep 96 14:10:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA20099 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:07:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA20094 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:07:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2kqw-00038YC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 14:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Version 3.95 Buggy? Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:58:08 -0700 Message-Id: References: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> On 16 Sep 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: > > >There are some known problems with 3.95, but the serious ones seem to be > >platform-specific, so (fortunately) not everyone is seeing them. > >A couple that come to mind: > > > o Display problems on AIX 4.2 (this is fixed by a small change to > > the build script for pico to use terminfo instead of termcap) > > > o Wedging the whole OS on Solaris. This seems to be a bug in a > > Sun library, tickled by a zero-byte read. A patch was posted > > to this list a while back. > > Could you please repost this or give information on where to find it. A > disk crash ate my news archives a few weeks ago. > There is an archive of pine-info/comp.mail.pine at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ I posted the Solaris patch in question on 4 Sep. > Is the specific posted fix incorporated in future versions of pine? > The patch disables a sanity test that was added recently and is only intended as a bandaid until Sun comes out with a patch to fix STREAMS... > Currently I have frozen GMI at 3.91 because of specific bugs in each version > since 3.91. > Could you elaborate on the bugs that are preventing your upgrade to Pine 3.95? Other than the above mentioned problems, we believe it to be more stable than Pine 3.91... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21578; Mon, 16 Sep 96 14:27:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA00725 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:21:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA00720 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:21:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2l46-00038YC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 14:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Leif Euren Subject: Alternate Editing Directory Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:12:58 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using pine 3.95 on SunOS 4.1. As a rule, I use emacs as the alternate editor when sending messages. When emacs is launched, it's working directory is the machine wide temporary directory /tmp . As it often happens that I'd like to include parts of files in my messages, this is annoying, as the emacs include-command starts looking at /tmp, and I have to manually redirect the path to my home-directory. What I want is to tell emacs to start with my home-directory as "current working directory". Is this possible? I've searched the setup menues and the web pages at http://www.washington.edu/pine/ but found nothing! Please tell me how to accomplish this! Leif Eur=E9n CelsiusTech Systems AB leeu@celsiustech.se Sweden All opinions are my own, even if my employer claims otherwise! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18965; Mon, 16 Sep 96 14:53:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA21233 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:48:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA21228 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:48:45 -0700 Received: from homer23.u.washington.edu (homer23.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.3]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA14914 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:48:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by homer23.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA87065; Mon, 16 Sep 96 14:48:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:48:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "D. Chiu" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: question. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I print an email? Can I? I don't see anything on the menu that will let me print my emails. I'd like to. Can you help? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23149; Mon, 16 Sep 96 15:07:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA21597 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:02:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA21592 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:02:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2lgb-00038cC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 14:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cgushue@cs.mun.ca (Christopher Gushue) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Message-Id: <1996Sep11.115526.9283@cs.mun.ca> References: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:55:26 GMT ness (ness@alcor.usc.edu) wrote: : I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and : fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here : over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it : came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably : nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with : that in the From: field? This may be because you are using your root account for email. Try setting up an account with your real email name, and it might work. Good luck. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15067; Mon, 16 Sep 96 15:51:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA02848 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:46:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.10.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA02843 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:46:52 -0700 Received: from ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu (mdlott@ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.10.44]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3/1.10IUPO) with ESMTP id RAA20808 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mdlott@localhost) by ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7/8.7/regexp($Revision: 1.3 $) id RAA24199; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:46:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:46:51 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Dennis Lott X-Sender: mdlott@ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I created a folder named "Friends" in the Inbox portion of the folder screen. If I try to save a message to this folder or if I try to delete it it says "Folder "Friends" does not exist". If I try to create a folder called Friends it says "Folder "Friends" already exists. What can I do to get rid of this? -Michael Lott- mdlott@indiana.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12921; Mon, 16 Sep 96 15:52:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA02894 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:47:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA02884 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:47:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2mNW-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 15:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cain@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Subject: alternate editor command Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:24:35 GMT Message-Id: <51jnv3$hmt@news.fsu.edu> I put an X in the enable-alternate-editor-cmd using superuser mode and it appears also when I look on my own account. However, when I compose a message it always goes to pico. Am I missing some other setting I need to make to have this function? ________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Cain cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25202; Mon, 16 Sep 96 16:29:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA23485 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:24:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA23480 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:24:44 -0700 Received: from hmmm.alaska.net by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03297; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:24:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:28:14 +0000 () From: chris To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: mail? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i've been sitting here for hours feeling really stupid. i can't get my mail from my isp's pop3 server. (they don't have imapd ...) i have v3.95 / fbsd. where's the "getPOP3mail" option? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25252; Mon, 16 Sep 96 16:29:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA23551 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:26:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA23546 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:26:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2mzK-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 16:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: me@somewhere.com Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Sun, 15 Sep 96 18:05:33 GMT Message-Id: <51hgid$9lu@herald.concentric.net> References: <50sdtg$cru@sgi.computek.net> In article <50sdtg$cru@sgi.computek.net>, hemicuda@computek.net (HemiCuda) wrote: >: I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and >: fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here >: over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it >: came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably >: nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with >: that in the From: field? > >Are you logging into the Linux machine as "ness"? You'll need to be doing >that if you are not now. Also, in Pine setup, you can set the domain name >so that it'll show "usa.net" after the "user@". > Or you can set the environment variables HOSTNAME and LOGNAME to the correct values. You should make a .login file in your home directory that looks like this (or the variables will be reset to their default each time you log on): #/bin/csh setenv HOSTNAME usa.net setenv LOGNAME ness From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22454; Mon, 16 Sep 96 16:49:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA23948 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:44:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.burlco.lib.nj.us (mail.burlco.lib.nj.us [204.91.160.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA23940 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:43:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (iholzman@localhost) by mail.burlco.lib.nj.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA14503 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:43:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:43:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Ingrid Holzman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: typing bug to report Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! Thought I would alert you all to a possible bug. While typing messages I will occasionally get the following types of displays: ex. 1: at[14;36H least ..... ex. 2: do(backspace arrow)16;52Hn't I have also had where I type the word "there" only to find the "th" above the "To:" prompt. Have others had this problem? I am wondering if it truly IS a bug in the pine program or with my communication software. Anyone (notice the present bug? I typed "anyone" and an "A" stayed on the line above. The reason I ask if it could be my software is because I recently changed from ProComm (old version for 286) to COMit for 286 & Dos. The problem I have found with both softwares though is that things will freeze up and I can't use the backspace to delete. I usually have to type over an error with any letters, THEN I can backspace. I'd be interested in any feedback you could provide. Ingrid :-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25419; Mon, 16 Sep 96 17:46:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA25269 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:42:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA25264 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:42:01 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA11841; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:41:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:41:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: David Candlin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: More on HP pine 3.95 vs. rsh preauth to distant IMAP servers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, Glad to hear the problem is solved. (I hadn't thought the /user= syntax would solve it because I had understood that the problem was intermittant; sometimes you got prompted, sometimes not. Glad I was wrong!) The /user stuff was added after the help text for folder collections was written; we need to update it. -teg On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, David Candlin wrote: > > Thank you. In fact, I got the hint to use "{bla.bla/user=me}INBOX}" within > an hour from Vladimir Solnicky in Prague, and my problem was solved. My > login names at home (mail repository) and at CERN are different. > > By the way, if you go to the folder-list screen (command L) and type ? it > tells you about allowable specifications, *not* including "/user=". > > David Candlin > > On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > OK, we've now seen two reports in the past 24 hours of problems with rsh > > preauthentication when accessing an IMAP server from an HP workstation. > > > > o Have either of you tried the suggestion of using /user= syntax? > > If it solves the problem, I won't know why, but that's OK... > > > > o Do either of you have any non-HP boxes you can try? > > > > o Once you get logged in, is everything OK? > > (I assume if you bypass rsh, using the :143 syntax, everything > > works as expected, except the rsh preauthentication, of course.) > > > > o I gather it works sometimes but not other times, and that in both cases > > there is substantial distance between client and server. This suggests > > a timing-dependent problem (as well as apparently being HP specific.) > > > > o If you revert to 3.91 on the HP (IMAP client), does the problem go > > away? > > > > o If you increase the rsh timeout (need to edit the pinerc for this) > > does it make any difference? > > > > o Any other HP users with useful info? (either successes or failures?) > > > > David, regarding Pine asking you multiple times for name/password: > > please check your pinerc to make sure all references to the remote > > imap server "look the same", e.g. use the same symbolic name in all cases. > > If so, Pine *should* remember the name/passwd for subsequent connections > > to the *same* server for the duration of the session. But if the > > hostnames (in inbox, incoming folders, folder collections) have > > different forms, Pine will definitely prompt you again. > > > > -teg > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19153; Mon, 16 Sep 96 17:48:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA05672 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:45:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com (intfw.bear.com [206.25.172.66]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA05667; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:45:18 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22452; Mon, 16 Sep 96 20:45:14 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma022117; Mon Sep 16 20:37:13 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA02564; Mon, 16 Sep 96 20:40:32 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA13968; Mon, 16 Sep 96 20:37:54 EDT Received: from wizard.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA10298; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:37:27 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by wizard.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA08910; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:37:28 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA20099; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:37:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:37:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: Terry Gray Cc: David Candlin , pine mailing list Subject: Re: More on HP pine 3.95 vs. rsh preauth to distant IMAP servers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > OK, we've now seen two reports in the past 24 hours of problems with rsh > preauthentication when accessing an IMAP server from an HP workstation. > > o Have either of you tried the suggestion of using /user= syntax? > If it solves the problem, I won't know why, but that's OK... > This solves the problem. sorry ;-) > o Do either of you have any non-HP boxes you can try? > Yes, solaris 2.5. Works fine. Debian GNU/linux 1.1 works fine too. > o Once you get logged in, is everything OK? > (I assume if you bypass rsh, using the :143 syntax, everything > works as expected, except the rsh preauthentication, of course.) > > o I gather it works sometimes but not other times, and that in both cases > there is substantial distance between client and server. This suggests > a timing-dependent problem (as well as apparently being HP specific.) > > o If you revert to 3.91 on the HP (IMAP client), does the problem go > away? > > o If you increase the rsh timeout (need to edit the pinerc for this) > does it make any difference? How is this done? Incidentally, I can't seem to get pine to use the SMTP host defined. I'm registered to this host with our firewall and need to send from it to get outside. I seem to be sending from the local workstation. My SMTP line looks like this on the HP client: smtp-server=123.456.789.10 Of course, the real address is used. Thanks again. Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 011-81-3-3437-7810 - Tokyo, Japan -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26775; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:21:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA25795 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:18:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA25790 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:17:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2ojl-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: Re: alternate editor command Message-Id: References: <51jnv3$hmt@news.fsu.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 01:06:45 GMT Checking "enable-alternate-editor-cmd" just allows you to use an alternate editor if you press Ctrl-space. You need to check enable-alternate-editor-implicitly for it to always kick in. Joseph Cain (cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu) wrote: : I put an X in the enable-alternate-editor-cmd using superuser mode and : it appears also when I look on my own account. However, when I compose : a message it always goes to pico. Am I missing some other setting I : need to make to have this function? : ________________________________________________________________________ : Joseph Cain : cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu : (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18743; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:21:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA06134 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:18:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA06129 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:18:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2okV-00038YC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Gregory J. Hickel" Subject: Adding Address to Distribution List... Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:19:55 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if it is possible to use the "Take Address" function (or something similar to add an address to a distribution list. Pine always wants to add the address as an individual. Am I missing something or is this just the way Pine is? Please respond to "gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu" as I don't always keep up on reading this newsgroup. Thanks! --Greg ========================================== Gregory J. Hickel 2L, Washington University School of Law gjhickel@www.wulaw.wustl.edu http://www.wulaw.wustl.edu/~gjhickel ========================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19309; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:25:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA06197 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:22:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mc6adm.UWaterloo.ca (mc6adm.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.200.64]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA06192 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:21:58 -0700 Received: from brobbins-home.UWaterloo.ca (cnts2p21.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.182.21]) by mc6adm.UWaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25215 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:21:50 -0400 Message-Id: <322E7854.5477@mc6adm.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 01:51:01 -0500 From: Barb Robbins Organization: University of Waterloo X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE X-Url: http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/groups/comp/mail/pine/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using PINE at my workplace (University of Waterloo) and haven't quite figured out how to access my mailbox from my home. Can anyone help? I am fairly computer ILLITERATE so be kind! Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14036; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:36:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA26000 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:33:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA25995 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:33:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2owc-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Alternate Editing Directory Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:51:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Leif Euren wrote: > I'm using pine 3.95 on SunOS 4.1. And I am using Pine 3.94 on SunOS 4.1.4, so our environments are very close. > As a rule, I use emacs as the > alternate editor when sending messages. When emacs is launched, it's > working directory is the machine wide temporary directory /tmp . > [...] I wonder if this might be a problem with emacs, which I am not familiar with. I use JOE 2.8 all the time as my alternate editor under Pine (comes up automatically). When JOE starts, such as when I began this reply, the working directory is /tmp, just as you are saying, as shown by the status bar displayed on the top of my screen. However, any command I give to or pass though JOE that involves the working directory uses whatever was the current directory when I started Pine. For example, if I want to import a file without specifying a path, the file will not be imported from /tmp but rather from whatever is the "underlying" working directory when Pine started. That's why I speculate your problem may have something to do with the connection specifically between emacs and Pine. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27171; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:44:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA06479 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:41:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA06474 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:41:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2p89-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roger Southwick Subject: File types -> Mime types Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:58:11 -0700 Message-Id: <323DF7A3.41C67EA6@mdhost.cse.tek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I realize that pine uses the mime.types file to decide on what MIME type an attachment should be, but I'd really like to see if there is the ability to use (something like) the "file" comand (including the "magic" file) to drive MIME types. It would probably be more bullet proof than simple file extensions, esp. under Unix. As an example, I attached a simple text file, and it came out as "application/octet-stream" instead of "text/plain" because (a) I didn't have an extension and (b) I didn't have any extention in the mime.types file for "text/plain". While that's OK behaviour, and I know that "a/o-s" is fine, it would be nice to use a "file" mechanism, which reads a few bytes, and MIME types accordingly. Of course, it's not idiot proof (like on html files), so perhaps using the mime.types file first, then use "file"? Has anyone done this (or thought about this as a future enhancement) before I launch into doing the code? Please reply via E-mail. I don't get much chance to read news :-(. -- -Roger (Roger.S.Southwick@tek.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27047; Mon, 16 Sep 96 18:49:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA26182 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:44:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA26177 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:44:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 16 SEP 96 17:42:29 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:42:29 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode Reply-To: Linda Emerson To: "Gregory J. Hickel" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Adding Address to Distribution List... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, this can be done. If you're in the message whose address you want to save, select Take Address. When prompted for the nickname to save, select To Address Book and then scroll through until you find the name of your list, hit return and you'll get the question about adding the name to the list. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Gregory J. Hickel wrote: > > I was wondering if it is possible to use the "Take Address" function (or > something similar to add an address to a distribution list. Pine always > wants to add the address as an individual. Am I missing something or is > this just the way Pine is? Please respond to > "gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu" as I don't always keep up on reading > this newsgroup. Thanks! > > --Greg > > ========================================== > Gregory J. Hickel > 2L, Washington University School of Law > gjhickel@www.wulaw.wustl.edu > http://www.wulaw.wustl.edu/~gjhickel > ========================================== > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24285; Mon, 16 Sep 96 19:45:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA27038 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:41:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA27033 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:41:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2q44-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 19:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cooky Nutty Subject: Thanks! Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:18:26 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks so much to all of you wonderful people who helped me create a new folder! Mission accomplished! Heidi:) *********************************************************************** "Nice girls don't fuck next to corn." -Paddy Kilrain Heidi Lloyd be81830@binghamton.edu lloydbtc@pipeline.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28006; Mon, 16 Sep 96 21:09:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA28118 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:04:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crux.unm.edu (crux.unm.edu [129.24.8.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA28113 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:04:41 -0700 Received: from default(really [129.24.14.35]) by crux.unm.edu via sendmail with smtp id for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:02:53 -0600 (MDT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #7 built 1996-Jul-25) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:07:32 -0600 () From: Bill Stewart To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 32-bit PC-Pine: attachment filenames In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: wstewart@mail.unm.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: >I've not tried PC-Pine....but do you have any better luck if you >enclose the filename in quotes? (Regarding: tring to attach a file that has spaces in its name) Thanks for the response. Yes, I tried quotes, and I tried replacing the spaces with underscores, and I tried the combination of both. Sometimes it seems to work at first, but when I press ^X to send, it says "problem with attachment." However, if I enter the "alias" filename, it works. For example, suppose I want to attach a file called "Little Picture.gif." I press ^J and enter "c:\pictures\Little Picture.gif" (without the quotes). Pine doesn't like it. But if I use "c:\pictures\little~1.gif" (the 8.3 alias), it works. When you use ^T to pop up a list of files, it uses the Win32 common dialog box (which uses long filenames). This is a problem because if you pick a file from the list, it inserts it correctly onto the "attachment" header line in Pine, but it won't let you send it. This is probably something the Pine development team will want to fix... ----------------------------- Bill Stewart wstewart@unm.edu http://www.unm.edu/~wstewart/ ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21788; Mon, 16 Sep 96 21:53:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA09182 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:48:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA09177 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:48:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2s0N-00038BC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 21:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pete Childress Subject: Re: Who's fault ? Pine ? Mine ? Yours ? Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:37:12 -0700 Message-Id: <323E2AF8.728E@OurWeb.com> References: <51jtkk$7pp@news.wco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Grosso wrote: > > In wco.general Clint Danbury wrote: > > : I'm using telnet, and so I have become accustomed to the cursor not > : responding to my keystrokes. I have also become accustomed to waiting for > : actions to occur; frequently 30-to-90 seconds or so. > > You're using Pine to post to the usenet? Try using tin - the right > program for the right job. Chances are you lost connection with the > newsserver if you took a long time to make a post but knowing what the > error message was would help - a whole lot. Trying to figure out the > answer to a problem when the only clue is "It didn't work" is not that > easy. > > Also - it's very rare that the response time using my shell account is > that delayed. It happens now and then for a few seconds but not 30-90 > seconds. If you're looking for a place to lay blame, it sounds like > something is wrong with the configuration of your comm program, modem > settings or port configuration. I don't think those LONG delays are a > regular thing. Is anyone else having those sort of problems? > > - Paul > > ---------------- > Paul Grosso > Paulg@wco.com > http://www.wco.com/~paulg/ Only when I telnet to shell.wco.com from work through the proxy... Delays are both noticeable and annoying, but it's more the proxy's fault than wco's... -Pete From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 23:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29789; Mon, 16 Sep 96 23:01:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA29634 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:57:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA29629 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:57:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2t7l-00038YC; Mon, 16 Sep 96 22:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: djb@koobera.math.uic.edu (D. J. Bernstein) Message-Id: <1996Sep1705.59.13.5862@koobera.math.uic.edu> Date: 17 Sep 1996 05:59:13 GMT Subject: Re: cucipop, unleashed... References: <519030$idm@hera.cuci.nl> <1996Sep1304.57.18.2593@koobera.math.uic.edu> <51d07r$kms@hera.cuci.nl> Stephen R. van den Berg wrote: > the mbox format uses > a lot less space on typical filesystems (less block slack) and fewer inodes. Yes, I find an average savings of 12%. Of course, maildir is designed simply to solve the reliability problems of mbox and mh for incoming messages; long-term storage should use a completely different format, with compressed messages and hashed indices. ---Dan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 23:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30499; Mon, 16 Sep 96 23:18:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA10287 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 23:14:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA10281 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 23:13:59 -0700 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA09243; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 08:13:54 +0200 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 08:13:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jean Schuller To: "D. Chiu" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: question. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Of course, you can , First, set your favorite printer using "S" Setup on the main menu, then choose the task P[Printer] and update the printer command you expect to use (someting like lpr -Pprinter_name if you are using UNIX).. Then, when you are reading your mail, choose O (Other command) and Y (prYnt). Then pine will ask you "lpr -Pprinter_name "? [Yes] or [No].. Good luck Jean +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | | Batiment 22 | | | Boite Postale 28 CR | | | 23, Rue du Loess | | | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | | FRANCE | | +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, D. Chiu wrote: > How do I print an email? Can I? I don't see anything on the menu > that will let me print my emails. I'd like to. Can you help? > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 23:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30560; Mon, 16 Sep 96 23:41:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA00268 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 23:38:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from baggins.cc.flinders.edu.au (baggins.cc.flinders.edu.au [129.96.252.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA00263 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 23:38:15 -0700 From: mood0018@baggins.cc.flinders.edu.au Received: from localhost by baggins.cc.flinders.edu.au (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03.mjp) id AA28180; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:08:04 +0930 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:08:03 +0930 (CST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello everybody out there beyond this screen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27115; Tue, 17 Sep 96 00:31:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA11230 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:27:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA11225 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:27:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2uY8-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 00:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL (Dick Hogeweg) Subject: Re: Windows 95's IP stack and IMAP Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 07:18:59 GMT Message-Id: <51ljd4$9av@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: <3239507E.69E8@uncg.edu> In article <3239507E.69E8@uncg.edu>, Rachel Louden wrote: >Hello > >We have recently switched to a new IMAP server. Everything works >well on the VMS, UNIX, and Windows3.1 clients. When we try to I'm curious about your IMAP server experiences with VMS. I use the IMAP server of PMDF (Innosoft) and have problems with copying Email from local folders to the remote VMS-mail folders. It's not possible while a Unix IMAP server has no problems at all. >use PINE under Windows 95 we keep loosing connection to our maiboxes. >The error message is IMAP Connection Broken--No server response. We >were trying to determine whether this was a problem with the client, >the Windows 95 IP stack, or the server. Since the same version of >pine works without problem under window3.1 and the clients on the other >OS's are fine, we believe that there is something wrong with the Windows >95 IP stack. The Microsoft web site only seems to talk about mail >problems in conjunction with its mail client. > >Has anyone else experienced this? >Does anyone have any suggestions/ solutions? I've experienced this lately. When I use the alternate editor (PFE) after saving and sending the Email message I receive the error; [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR]. I've also noticed that this happens sometimes after bouncing Email. Normally I've no problems at all, my IMAP connection stays open all day. Kind regards, Dick Hogeweg Email: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL WWW: http://www.LeidenUniv.NL CRI, instituut voor telecommunicatie _______ en computerdienstverlening | Postbus 9512, 2300 RA Leiden Rijks Universiteit Leiden | tel. +31 71 5276900, fax +31 71 5276967 | | | | | | | - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31030; Tue, 17 Sep 96 00:41:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA00984 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:37:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA00979 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:37:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2ufS-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 00:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: PC-Pine 3.95 can't connect Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:08:28 GMT PC-Pine 3.95 (obtained as PCP_PCT.ZIP) fails to connect to our IMAP servers -- both IMAP2bis and IMAP4 -- no matter how many minutes I let it wait. Rolling back to 3.91 (PCPINE_F.ZIP), I am able to connect to both servers. Is this version of PC-Pine broken? BTW, 3.95 displays my remote account and password at the left end of its status line for the first 15 seconds that it tries to connect. :^( Can I really be the only one experiencing this? Thanks, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 03:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32695; Tue, 17 Sep 96 03:47:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA13392 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 03:42:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA13387 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 03:42:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2xbE-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 03:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan.Thew@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) Subject: Re: Version 3.95 Buggy? Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:14:25 GMT The SunOS4 code has a major bug in some pipe code somewhere. This affects mailcap reading, use of pipe by the user. pine just hangs (forever). I'm going back to 3.93 (having put the security patches in for mode 666 files myself). Removing the mailcap files gave me more stability at the loss of some functionality (I could live with it) but loss of a reliable pipe command is a bit much.... -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 In article , gray@cac.washington.edu says... > >There are some known problems with 3.95, but the serious ones seem to be >platform-specific, so (fortunately) not everyone is seeing them. >A couple that come to mind: > > o Display problems on AIX 4.2 (this is fixed by a small change to > the build script for pico to use terminfo instead of termcap) > > o Wedging the whole OS on Solaris. This seems to be a bug in a > Sun library, tickled by a zero-byte read. A patch was posted > to this list a while back. > >-teg > >On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > >> On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: >> > On an in-house newsgroup, a rep from my service provider posted a >> > message today that they had deliberately decided against installing >> > Pine 3.95 because the tech people thought it was too buggy. (We are >> > on 3.94.) Unfortunately, she gave no details. Has anyone had bug >> > problems with 3.95? Thanks. >> >> That's curious. 3.95 is primarily bug fixes from 3.94. I can't imagine >> why anyone would prefer 3.94, with known crash-type bugs (and known bugs >> in filters!), to 3.95. >> >> -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" >> >> DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" >> Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. >> >> > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32461; Tue, 17 Sep 96 05:13:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA04130 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:08:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA04125 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:08:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2yvG-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 05:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cain@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Subject: cmsg cancel <51lvkk$3ja@news.fsu.edu> Control: cancel <51lvkk$3ja@news.fsu.edu> Date: 17 Sep 1996 10:56:13 GMT Message-Id: <51m04d$3u6@news.fsu.edu> References: <51jnv3$hmt@news.fsu.edu> <51lvkk$3ja@news.fsu.edu> <51lvkk$3ja@news.fsu.edu> was cancelled from within rn. ________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Cain cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00037; Tue, 17 Sep 96 05:23:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA14599 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:19:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA14594 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:19:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2z1q-00038UC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 05:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cain@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Subject: Re: alternate editor command Date: 17 Sep 1996 11:02:29 GMT Message-Id: <51m0g5$48u@news.fsu.edu> References: <51jnv3$hmt@news.fsu.edu> <51lvkk$3ja@news.fsu.edu> In article <51lvkk$3ja@news.fsu.edu> cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) writes: >In article zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) writes: >>Checking "enable-alternate-editor-cmd" just allows you to use an alternate >>editor if you press Ctrl-space. You need to check >>enable-alternate-editor-implicitly for it to always kick in. >> >> >Well, I guess I am dense (no surprise, eh?), but a control-space seems >to give me the message "already at end of message" while reading a >message, and no reponse while composing. If in index or main menu I >get a menu brought down from Procomm Plus 3.0, which I am using from >my home Pentium. I have not tried this yet on the office sparc under >the Solaris x-windows. > I have also tried checking both the ..cmd and the ..implicitly and indeed it kicks into the compose and then drops into emacs (my default editor). It seems to work the same without the ..cmd checked as well. Is there something that the added check under enable-alternate-editor-cmd is supposed to do? It would logically seem redundant to use both. Invoking emacs takes a little longer but pico is so similar that it is often hard to switch languages without stumbling. ________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Cain cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00635; Tue, 17 Sep 96 05:26:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA04298 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:23:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA04293 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:23:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v2z7B-00038YC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 05:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Terri Waddell Subject: Need help posting to newsgroups... Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:24:39 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! The school just installed a new version of Pine (sorry, don't know the version number). Now I can't seem to get the configuration to put my name in when I post to newsgroups - intead it says "To: ..." (see this message in your mail index). Before the upgrade, this was working just fine, so I don't know if the upgrade messed up something or if I did. Help!!! (Thanks!) -Terri twadde1@umbc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 06:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01130; Tue, 17 Sep 96 06:19:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA04900 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 06:11:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from idsc.gov.eg (IDSC.GOV.EG [163.121.2.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA04895 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 06:11:05 -0700 Received: from eis.com.eg (eis1.eis.com.eg) by idsc.gov.eg (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17989; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:07:08 GMT Received: from ashraf by eis.com.eg (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA00842; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:09:34 +0300 Message-Id: <323FF484.55DE@eis.com.eg> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:09:24 +0300 From: "Ashraf M. Ezz" Reply-To: aezz@eis1.eis.com.eg Organization: EIS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi i'm installing pine on my SUN machine and having this problem. When any user is trying to use it ,it displays an error message saying 'incomplete mail domain "hostname" return address in mail you send maybe incorrect ' . Of course every user can get into the setup and fix that. The question is how do I do that globally ? Thanks bye From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 07:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01115; Tue, 17 Sep 96 07:50:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA16717 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 07:43:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA16711 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 07:43:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v31J2-00038UC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 07:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pete Childress Subject: Re: Who's fault ? Pine ? Mine ? Yours ? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 06:53:18 -0700 Message-Id: <323EAD4E.5813@OurWeb.com> References: <51jtkk$7pp@news.wco.com> <323E2AF8.728E@OurWeb.com> <51lbjc$klv@news.wco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Um, I don't think I left anything out... merely said I think the proxy at work slows it down. I don't allow my users modem connections (for security reasons), and I don't do it myself, to set the example. -Pete Paul Grosso wrote: > > Geeze, you kind of left some important information out of the mix, didn't > you? Yeah, the shell account is pretty slow when you telnet in from > somewhere else. I do this on a pretty regular basis from my work in the > East Bay and there are long delays - all you need to do is dial in direct > and you'll see that the problems are the connection getting to WCO - not > WCO. > > - Paul > > --------------------------- > Paul Grosso > paulg@wco.com > http://www.wco.com/~paulg/ > > In wco.general Pete Childress wrote: > > : Paul Grosso wrote: > : > > : > In wco.general Clint Danbury wrote: > : > > : > : I'm using telnet, and so I have become accustomed to the cursor not > : > : responding to my keystrokes. I have also become accustomed to waiting for > : > : actions to occur; frequently 30-to-90 seconds or so. > : > > : > You're using Pine to post to the usenet? Try using tin - the right > : > program for the right job. Chances are you lost connection with the > : > newsserver if you took a long time to make a post but knowing what the > : > error message was would help - a whole lot. Trying to figure out the > : > answer to a problem when the only clue is "It didn't work" is not that > : > easy. > : > > : > Also - it's very rare that the response time using my shell account is > : > that delayed. It happens now and then for a few seconds but not 30-90 > : > seconds. If you're looking for a place to lay blame, it sounds like > : > something is wrong with the configuration of your comm program, modem > : > settings or port configuration. I don't think those LONG delays are a > : > regular thing. Is anyone else having those sort of problems? > : > > : > - Paul > : > > : > ---------------- > : > Paul Grosso > : > Paulg@wco.com > : > http://www.wco.com/~paulg/ > > : Only when I telnet to shell.wco.com from work through the proxy... Delays are both > : noticeable and annoying, but it's more the proxy's fault than wco's... > > : -Pete From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06917; Tue, 17 Sep 96 10:16:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA10130 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:11:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ceddec.ceddec.com (mercury.ceddec.com [207.91.200.193]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA10121 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:11:49 -0700 Received: (from shutdown@localhost) by ceddec.ceddec.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA08437 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:11:47 -0400 Received: from deimos(207.91.200.7) by ceddec via smap (V1.3) id sma007976; Tue Sep 17 13:11:47 1996 Received: by deimos (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0v32eB-000EH4C; Tue, 17 Sep 96 12:05 EDT Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 12:05 EDT Received: from localhost(127.0.0.1) by deimos.ceddec.com via smap (V2.0alpha) id xma002800; Tue, 17 Sep 96 12:04:54 -0400Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Zerucha Reply-To: tz@execpc.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine locks up for several seconds when reading - why? In-Reply-To: <323EAD4E.5813@OurWeb.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Linux pine 3.95. When I browse an index and mark several messages as deleted, and start reading, or go back from reading to the index, pine often stops and does something that requires lots of disk accessing (maybe it is checkpointing the mailbox). It is not swapping pages in virtual memory, and there is no banner saying what it is doing, but it will lock up for several seconds to a minute (the more messages the longer), but remember keystrokes. Expunging takes the same amount of time, but isn't any faster after one of these apopletic seizures. Why does it do this, and how do I make it stop. (please cc my actual account as well as responding to the list) tz@execpc.com finger tz@execpc.com for PGP key From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07168; Tue, 17 Sep 96 10:48:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA21064 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:43:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA21059 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:43:27 -0700 Received: from hmmm.alaska.net by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27852; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:43:24 -0800 Message-Id: <323F45D2.24AE@alaska.net> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:44:02 -0700 From: hmmm X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Rx X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.01/msg00578.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i can't figure out if i can use pine or not! i have a pop3 isp (no imap, heard it has big security hole) and can't figure out if and how to retrieve my mail off of it with Pine 3.95 on my home PC. please help! (i'm not on the list, please reply by email, thanks) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29028; Tue, 17 Sep 96 10:57:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA11259 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:53:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA11254 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:53:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v34KE-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 10:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: PINE Date: 17 Sep 1996 15:49:23 GMT Message-Id: <51mha3$7v5@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <51kum3$1ic@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <51kum3$1ic@rain.psg.com>, brobbins@mc6adm.uwaterloo.ca (Barb Robbins) writes: > I am using PINE at my workplace (University of Waterloo) and haven't > quite figured out how to access my mailbox from my home. Can anyone > help? I am fairly computer ILLITERATE so be kind! If you use PC at home, use PC-Pine. If you use Macintosh, MailDrop probably does it. The alpha version works very well on my Q650 and 6100/66 machines. I don't like the 1.1 for lack of features. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08232; Tue, 17 Sep 96 11:04:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA21481 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:57:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from elbit2x.elbit.co.il (evs.elbit.co.il [194.90.134.226]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA21473 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:57:47 -0700 Received: from elbit1.elbit.co.il ([120.1.1.1]) by elbit2x.elbit.co.il (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12766 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:48:18 +0300 (GMT+0300) Received: from elbit.co.il (stots01.elbit.co.il [128.139.80.181]) by elbit1.elbit.co.il (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06064 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:57:26 +0300 (GMT+0300) Received: from localhost by elbit.co.il (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA09575; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:56:59 +0200 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:56:59 +0200 (IST) From: Stotsky Haim To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i want to subscribe to the pine newsgroup Stots +================================================================+ |Stotsky Haim, | Email: stots@elbit.co.il | P.O.B 539 | |System Admin, | Phone: +972-4-8315-768 | Haifa, 51905 | |Elbit Ltd. | Fax: +972-4-8315-120 | Israel | +================================================================+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08253; Tue, 17 Sep 96 11:07:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA21610 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:03:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA21605 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:03:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v34Qm-00038TC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 10:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: name in index folder Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:30:03 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Keiko wrote: > I'm using PINE 3.39 and I can't figure out how to make my personal name > appear in the index folder when I post a message to a newsgroup. all it > says is "To: {whatever newsgroup}" What can I do? Pine thinks that there is no point in displaying to YOU the from info of messages that YOU send, so for those it displays info about who they are to. The rest of the world sees those messages as from Keiko (who has a signature three times as long as the actual message sent). So don't worry. Pine is sending messages with the correct From info. -jeff -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03837; Tue, 17 Sep 96 11:11:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA11503 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:03:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA11492 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:03:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v34QZ-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 10:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Failed reply Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:38:19 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Sep 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > My question is not about a problem with the program. I just wish there > was some real simple way to deal with the situation where the e-mail > address of some person given by the news server is not correct. I wish > there was a simple way of posting that message once you find out there > was a mail delivery problem, since replying by e-mail did not work. I believe your question was how to resend a failed message without having to retype to message. Particularly when the original was sent from a news reader such as tin. There are two questions, really: Q: What to do about people who post to news with bad reply-addresses? A: I wish I knew. Beyond scolding them gently (and without a proper email for them this can be difficult), there really is nothign to do. Q: When I get a bounce message, how do I resend it? A: If you have a better guess at the address of where to send it, you can try Forward and then change the subject line (remove tthe "(fwd)", edit out the mailer daemon junk in the body, and send it to the new guess of an address. -jeff -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08659; Tue, 17 Sep 96 11:28:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA22093 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:23:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA22088 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:23:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v34mr-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 11:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Version 3.95 Buggy? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:01:45 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > Has anyone had bug problems with 3.95? Thanks. The .lu file created by the command line option does not seem to be acceptable to pine. This has made setting up a global address book very annoying to automate. I believe that I posted a detailed account of this problem a while back. It is the most serious bug to date. Some limitations have severe consequences: If the xterm features are set, but a user runs in a DXTerm on Ultrix (and possibly OSF) it fails dramatically. The entire DXterm window freezes and must be killed externally. It would be nice if the failure were more graceful, since I would love to put the xterm features in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf . I reported a truly minor bug about the warning messages about dropped NNTP connections beging displayed as messages about dropped SMTP connections. I recieved a perfectly satisfying answer to that and it is hard to imagine that anyone would think that that was in anyway a reason not to upgrade -jeff -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08763; Tue, 17 Sep 96 11:52:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA12499 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:48:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA12494 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:48:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v35Ac-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 11:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Virtual Joe Subject: [Q] imapd problem Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:40:15 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to get imapd working on our new HPUX 10.01 system. I downloaded the latest (3.95) stuff and compiled with no problems. Pine and Pico work great. When I try to access this machine with imapd, however, I run into problems. It asks for a login and password, thinks for a minute and then says: [Bad LOGIN user name and/or password] and then [CLOSED - Imap connection broken] (or something like that) which to me seems like it at least gets through to the port. I have checked: 1) my password IS correct (I even changed it a few times to be sure!) 2) inetd.conf IS correct (and restarted) 3) /etc/services IS correct 4) as a last resort I even did chmod 755 imapd! (to no avail) Imapd (3.95) worked great out of the box on our 9.04 system, so I am wondering if the different way passwords are handled on 10.01 is the culprit. Has anyone run into this yet? Thanks for any help...... *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: < http://www.creighton.edu/~jduche/>> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09702; Tue, 17 Sep 96 12:18:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA23288 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:13:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA23283 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:13:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v35Wu-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 12:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flash@io.org (Sheldon Gordon) Subject: HELP!! Can't send e-mail to Mac Date: 17 Sep 1996 18:51:50 GMT Message-Id: <51ms06$47n@news1.io.org> Need advice on sending e-mail with file attachment from a PC platform to a Mac platform. I am using a 286 with DOS. The e-mail reaches the destination but not the uploaded file. I am told I should cut and paste the file content into the e-mail message, but I don't think I can cut and paste with 286 DOS. What about converting the file - a WordPerfect 5.1 file - into a DOS file or TEXT file? How would I do that? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Sheldon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10090; Tue, 17 Sep 96 12:57:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA24304 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:52:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bank5.u.washington.edu (bank5.u.washington.edu [140.142.43.229]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA24297 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:52:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by bank5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05327; Tue, 17 Sep 96 12:52:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:52:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Forwarded mail.... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could you let me know why this text has started to appear after every e-mail i send, as it was not here yesterday i was wondering if i did something to make it appear. I would like to get rid of it so if you could let me know how i would appreciate it, Thanks Deirdre From deirdreg@u.washington.edu Fri Sep 13 10:17:53 1996 Status: O X-Status: Newsgroups: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene cc: cc Fcc: sent-mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:11:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene To: pine-info@cac.washinton.edu I was just wondering if you could help me. The script following this message appears on every e-mail i send and as no-one else in my office has this and as i did not have it yesterday i was wondering if you could help me understand why it has now appeared and how to get rid of it. Thanks, Deirdre. From deirdreg@u.washington.edu Fri Sep 13 10:17:53 1996 Status: O X-Status: Newsgroups: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene cc: cc Fcc: sent-mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08645; Tue, 17 Sep 96 13:11:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA14323 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:04:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA14314 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:04:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v36Ie-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 12:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vikas Agnihotri Subject: News through firewall Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:32:30 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am accesing the Internet from behind a firewall and my local NNTP server for USENET news does not carry a few newsgroups that I am interested in. I know that there are tons of public access NNTP servers out there that I can avail of but I cannot specify them in the nntp-server= variable because I am behind a firewall. How do I overcome this problem? How can I tell Pine to access a public access NNTP server through my firewall. I am accessing 'telnet' and 'ftp' through 'ptelnet' and 'pftp' i.e. through a proxy defined on the firewall machines(s). Help. Please email directly to vikas@insight.att.com Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06583; Tue, 17 Sep 96 13:41:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA25385 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:34:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA25378 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:34:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v36lk-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 13:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Virtual Joe Subject: Re: [Q] imapd problem -More Info! Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:13:31 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It appears that my problems are due to our "trusted" system. Has anyone whacked the code for imapd or popper to work with HP-UX 10.X trusted systems? I would be forever in your debt.... *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: < http://www.creighton.edu/~jduche/>> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10841; Tue, 17 Sep 96 13:54:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA15444 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:49:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA15438 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:49:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v373F-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 13:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paulb@teleport.com (Paul Buder) Subject: New patch available to kill threads of subjects Date: 17 Sep 96 20:43:14 GMT Message-Id: I asked my boss if I could release this patch I made to pine to the world as a freebie which hopefully others will improve. He said fine so it is available. It kills subject threads now and for 30 days. Please read the disclaimer at the end of this message. In short, if it blows up your mailbox it's your problem. The patch is at ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/paulb/pine/kill-patch To apply it you will need gnu patch. It is patched against pine3.95 but might work with other versions of pine. Just go to your pine3.95/pine directory and type patch < kill-patch and do another build. Here is the announcement I sent to the employees here. ===================================================================== Announcing the Kill command. Are you sick of reading about particular subjects which you have no interest in? Press K. This will mark the subject deleted and hidden. Then when you quit pine and it asks if you want to expunge articles say yes and those messages are gone. The subject is also written to a kill file. For 30 days any subject marked with a K will be automatically deleted and hidden when you enter your inbox. This is all you need to know unless you hit K by mistake. If you do, then hit Z. This toggles zoom (Pine's word for hiding groups of messages). The messages you just marked deleted will now be unhidden. Arrow to the ones you want and press U to undelete them. The subject you really wanted is still in your killfile. Press # to edit it. Take the subject line out that you want to read in the future by arrowing down to it and pressing Control-K to delete the line. Press Control-X as shown on the bottom to exit. Pico will say "Save modified buffer?". Answer 'y'. Then it will say "File name to write? : /home/yourname/.pinekill". Press Enter. Please let me know if you find any bugs. On one hand I have spent a fair amount of time trying to ensure there aren't any. On the other hand there are around ten pages of new code, a lot of which involve calling pine routines, some of which I don't fully understand. Enjoy! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13031; Tue, 17 Sep 96 14:47:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA16778 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:44:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA16773 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:44:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v37sE-00038TC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 14:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: czg@inforamp.net (Ray Chow) Subject: Re: porting 3.95 to Linux Date: 14 Sep 1996 01:30:41 GMT Message-Id: <51d1s1$r85@news.inforamp.net> References: <51bp7b$ci0@tick.cs.wm.edu> <51csai$8mj@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> On 13 Sep 1996 16:56:02 -0700, Greg Putrich wrote: >Luiz Felipe L. Perrone wrote: > >: Has anybody successfully ported Pine 3.95 to Linux ? > >: Any info would be very much appreciated. Please >: email me directly as well as posting to the newsgroup. > >-- >I found on my HD last night 3.95 for Linux. It was the binary for it and >runs great. I don't remember where I got it tho. If you're interested, I >can make it avail via anon-ftp. Let me know if you (or anyone else) wants >the binary vers. I don't have the source code. Binaries for Linux are available at ftp.cac.washington.edu in directory /pine/unix-bin-compressed -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 373811 Jul 15 15:45 imapd-bin.linux.Z -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 259029 Jul 15 15:45 pico-bin.linux.Z -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 255927 Jul 15 15:46 pilot-bin.linux.Z -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 1772181 Jul 15 15:49 pine-bin.linux.Z -- ray chow / canada / czg@inforamp.net aa813@freenet.hamilton.on.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29473; Tue, 17 Sep 96 14:48:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA26842 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:44:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA26835 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:44:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v37rt-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 14:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: cucipop, unleashed... Date: 14 Sep 1996 01:02:51 GMT Message-Id: <51d07r$kms@hera.cuci.nl> References: <519030$idm@hera.cuci.nl> <1996Sep1304.57.18.2593@koobera.math.uic.edu> D. J. Bernstein wrote: >Stephen R. van den Berg wrote: >> + Is the only popd to perform reliable mailbox locking across >> NFS as well >Actually, qmail-pop3d works reliably over NFS. (It's dedicated to >maildir format. maildir is nice for programmers because it doesn't need I'm actually referring to traditional mbox dotlocking. For maildir format, this is, of course, not needed. >qmail-pop3d also uses no temporary files, can serve any size mailbox, >supports APOP and UIDL, imposes no limits on lines or characters, and >has a hook for your favorite authentication scheme. It's much smaller >than cucipop. Undoubtedly, because it doesn't have to parse the mbox format. There is an advantage (despite its many shortcomings) to mbox over the maildir format, BTW, especially to your typical mailserver that has lots of POP3 readers and not all that many shell users: the mbox format uses a lot less space on typical filesystems (less block slack) and fewer inodes. >> + It also supports an optional autodelete mechanism, so that any >> RETReived message is automatically deleted >Yikes. Does it also automatically tell the users what it's doing? ``I >will irrevocably destroy your mail, before you've seen it, if your >connection drops at the wrong moment.'' It takes a reasonable stab at detecting these "wrong" moments and tries not to delete the message currently being transferred. But, there is a risk, yes. In any case, the behaviour is completely optional and definitely not the default, and of course clearly marked in the man pages as violating RFC1939. Nonetheless, it is useful for some environments, which is why I included it. As for telling the user..., it indeed displays a message of this kind as the mail is being retrieved. The problem is that if the user is using a typical POP3 client, this message will, of course, not be displayed to the user. -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). Real programmers don't produce results, they return exit codes. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12384; Tue, 17 Sep 96 14:48:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA26855 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:44:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA26849 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:44:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v37sO-00038UC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 14:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa126@fan1.fan.nb.ca (William Burrow) Subject: Re: Composing mail to all entries in addressbook Date: 13 Sep 1996 22:49:40 GMT Message-Id: <51coe4$6h5@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> References: Ari Y. Weintraub (aweintra@umabnet.ab.umd.edu) wrote: : Is there any way in Pine 3.94 to compose mail to all of the entries in my : addressbook. For example, I recently changed my phone number and would : like to send one message to everybody with the new number. I can't find a : way to do this - does anyone out there have any idea? TIA This would be a nice suggestion for Pine, however, you can do pretty much the same in Unix using the following awk script. Copy everything between the lines into a file named: everyone -------------%< clip -------------- { printf("everyone\tEveryone\t("); if ( $0 ~ /\(/ ) continue else printf("%s", $1); while ( getline > 0 ) { if ( $0 ~ /\(/ ) continue else printf(",%s", $1); } printf(")\n"); } -------------%< clip -------------- Now, type the following exactly at the Unix prompt: awk -f everyone < ~/.addressbook >> ~/.addressbook && echo Done. You may wish to first copy your ~/.addressbook file to a backup file, before executing this command. If everything went well, it should say Done. When you start Pine, there should now be a list in your address book with the name: everyone, containing all of your address book nicknames (but NOT other lists). -- -- William Burrow -- Fredericton Area Network From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05808; Tue, 17 Sep 96 15:08:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA17242 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:04:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA17235 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:04:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v38BN-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 14:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: alternate editor command Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:38:07 GMT Message-Id: <51n5jr$gp0@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <51jnv3$hmt@news.fsu.edu> Yep. X'ing the setup option "enable-alternate-editor-cmd" only gets you the *ability* to invoke an editor other than pico using the ^_ command. If you want to have the alternate editor be your default editor, you need to also X the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" option found immediately below the first in the setup screen. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 16 Sep 1996 14:24:35 GMT, cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) wrote: >I put an X in the enable-alternate-editor-cmd using superuser mode and >it appears also when I look on my own account. However, when I compose >a message it always goes to pico. Am I missing some other setting I >need to make to have this function? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07152; Tue, 17 Sep 96 15:12:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA27536 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:09:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA27530 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:09:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v38J0-00038TC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 15:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: cucipop, unleashed... Date: 12 Sep 1996 12:35:44 GMT Message-Id: <519030$idm@hera.cuci.nl> As of now, you can pick up a new POP3-daemon that has been especially optimised for heavy loads (e.g. your typical ISP setup). cucipop v1.10 It can currently be picked up as: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/cucipop/cucipop.tar.gz Feature summary for cucipop: + It's fast (optimised for frequently polling POP3 clients) + It's less filling (i.e. small) + Does not use *any* temporary files (which also means that the startup time is spectacularly short, and there can never be any stale temporary files or doubled mailboxes) + It can therefore serve *any* size mailbox without requiring additional storage beyond what the file already occupies + A fully compliant, all frills attached, RFC1939 implementation of the POP3 protocol + This means that it supports APOP *and* UIDL + It includes the option to sabotage the UIDL command (to defeat undesirable "Leave mail on server" clients) + It also supports an optional autodelete mechanism, so that any RETReived message is automatically deleted + Autoadaptive, simply start it and it will know if it has been started from inetd or as a standalone daemon + Security conscious, i.e. the APOP support, already has hooks for shadowpasswords, and defeats password guessers by an adaptive verification delay + Supports both BSD and SysV (Content-Length) mailbox formats + Is the only popd to perform reliable mailbox locking across NFS as well (it uses the same excellent and proven locking algorithms as does procmail) + Provides flexible logging of statistics and auditing events + Does not impose *any* limits on line lengths, mail length, or the use of any character (any 8-bit character, including '\0' is allowed) in the mail + Secure system mailbox handling + Has hooks to ease moving the mailboxes to any location you'd like + Has hooks for other authentication schemes (e.g. Radius) + Has hooks to virtualise the popserver + It runs on any POSIX and ANSI C compliant system + Is clock skew immune (e.g. in the case of NFS mounted mailboxes) -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). "I have a *cunning* plan!" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15706; Tue, 17 Sep 96 17:03:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA20033 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:59:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA20028 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:59:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v39zf-00038UC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 16:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: 10 Sep 1996 12:15:11 GMT Message-Id: <513m4f$4ba@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , Clint Danbury writes: > > > I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion > bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. > > how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? Assume the spammer's address is spammer@somewhere.com, you email to postmaster@somewhere.com and complain. Of course, you want to make sure you include the full headered email from the spammer as a supporting evidence. If the spammer uses anonymous service to email you, you can email the anonymous service postmaster and request your address be blocked so that no future email will come from that service to you. It works. Hopefully, the spammer will run out of anonymous servers ... :-) Jie -- -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16214; Tue, 17 Sep 96 17:06:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA00137 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:03:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost.ksu.edu (grunt.ksu.ksu.edu [129.130.12.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA00124 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:03:11 -0700 Received: from vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu (jts8314@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu [129.130.83.198]) by mailhost.ksu.edu (8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA11712 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:03:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu (8.6.12/1.34) id TAA11137; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:02:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:02:53 -0500 (CDT) From: John T Swiniuch To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am just wondering why it is that I don't recieve all of my messages. It appears that my mail is getting lost for some unknown reason and if somebody could tell me why this is happening to me, or where it may be going and how I can get it so I can reply to people I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. John Swiniuch From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14699; Tue, 17 Sep 96 17:34:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA20683 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:31:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA20672 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:31:02 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA17163; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:30:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:30:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: hmmm Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help Rx In-Reply-To: <323F45D2.24AE@alaska.net> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can access an inbox in *online* mode, with reduced functionality, via the following syntax in your pinerc: inbox-path={pop.server.name/pop}INBOX However, I'm skeptical of what you were told about IMAP and security. Could you find out more (or put us in touch with someone who knows) about the alleged security hole? It is possible that there is a security hole in a particular IMAP server (and if it's ours, we want to know about it), but there are lots of server choices now, and it is extremely unlikely that the protocol itself is the problem. (Indeed, in normal use, it is better to use online access via IMAP than have repeated connections to check for new mail via POP, as the latter scenario involves sending your passwd over the net --usually in the clear-- many more times.) -teg On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, hmmm wrote: > i can't figure out if i can use pine or not! > > i have a pop3 isp (no imap, heard it has big security hole) > and can't figure out if and how to retrieve my mail off of it > with Pine 3.95 on my home PC. > > please help! (i'm not on the list, please reply by email, thanks) > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07202; Tue, 17 Sep 96 18:51:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA21781 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:44:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA21776 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:44:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3BcB-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 18:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Sort in date order Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:04:00 -0700 Message-Id: References: <51auue$6bm@lobo.lule.frontec.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51auue$6bm@lobo.lule.frontec.se> On 13 Sep 1996, Daniel Stenberg wrote: > Just a quick question to the development team of Pine: > > *Why* does Pine have this huge problem of sorting mails in the proper date > order? Dates entered like '12 jan 96' (which I happen to get pretty often) > seems to be treated as if they actually were from the year 96 and not > 1996... > Could you give an example of a complete Date: header that Pine handles incorrectly? --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17232; Tue, 17 Sep 96 19:18:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA02142 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:14:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA02135 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:14:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3C8B-00038BC; Tue, 17 Sep 96 19:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problems with sending mail: ( 3.93) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:23:35 -0700 Message-Id: References: <323D3741.77A7@tkm.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <323D3741.77A7@tkm.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de> On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Horst Michael Meissner wrote: > I can not understand this whats the second > TO:Undisclosed recipients: ; > ??????? > This is caused by a bug that is fixed in the current Pine 3.95 release... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18376; Tue, 17 Sep 96 23:05:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA05065 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:00:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id XAA05060 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:00:33 -0700 Received: from jaguar.cac.washington.edu (mg131-136.ricochet.net [204.179.131.136]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA05523; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:00:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:00:14 -0700 () From: Terry Gray To: hmmm Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help Rx In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Oops, that should be: /pop3 -teg On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > You can access an inbox in *online* mode, with reduced functionality, > via the following syntax in your pinerc: > > inbox-path={pop.server.name/pop}INBOX > > However, I'm skeptical of what you were told about IMAP and security. > > Could you find out more (or put us in touch with someone who knows) about > the alleged security hole? It is possible that there is a security hole > in a particular IMAP server (and if it's ours, we want to know about it), > but there are lots of server choices now, and it is extremely unlikely > that the protocol itself is the problem. (Indeed, in normal use, it is > better to use online access via IMAP than have repeated connections to > check for new mail via POP, as the latter scenario involves sending your > passwd over the net --usually in the clear-- many more times.) > > -teg > > On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, hmmm wrote: > > > i can't figure out if i can use pine or not! > > > > i have a pop3 isp (no imap, heard it has big security hole) > > and can't figure out if and how to retrieve my mail off of it > > with Pine 3.95 on my home PC. > > > > please help! (i'm not on the list, please reply by email, thanks) > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25690; Wed, 18 Sep 96 00:05:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA25644 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:01:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA25639; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:01:37 -0700 Received: from hmmm.alaska.net by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13735; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:01:30 -0800 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:04:59 +0000 () From: hmmm To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help Rx In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > You can access an inbox in *online* mode, with reduced functionality, > via the following syntax in your pinerc: > > inbox-path={pop.server.name/pop}INBOX yeah, but that sure wasn't easy to see. (i use pop3) btw, i gotta move fast - PINE keeps dying evertime it realizes PPP is off (as it restarts - auto/ondemand mode) fbsd 2.1.5 / pine 3.95 - not subscribed! i may run into him again, i'll note your comment on fbsd's lists had to do with csh aliasing his client as the server ... ? > However, I'm skeptical of what you were told about IMAP and security. > > Could you find out more (or put us in touch with someone who knows) about > the alleged security hole? It is possible that there is a security hole > in a particular IMAP server (and if it's ours, we want to know about it), > but there are lots of server choices now, and it is extremely unlikely > that the protocol itself is the problem. (Indeed, in normal use, it is > better to use online access via IMAP than have repeated connections to > check for new mail via POP, as the latter scenario involves sending your > passwd over the net --usually in the clear-- many more times.) > > -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17724; Wed, 18 Sep 96 03:57:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA08635 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 03:52:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA08630 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 03:52:54 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbhrn11447; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 06:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10820; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:53:51 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06686; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:52:41 -0300 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:52:39 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Subject: installing pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII how can i install pine? i ftp pine from a site and gunzip it and untar it but i don;t know now what to do i have this directory when i untar the tar file { pine3.95 } which has the following files: burgan% cd pine3.95 /home/butaiban/pine/pine3.95 burgan% ls -l total 34 -rw-r--r-- 1 butaiban 2674 Jun 11 03:33 CPYRIGHT -rw-r--r-- 1 butaiban 1390 Jun 12 13:37 README drwxr-xr-x 2 butaiban 512 Jul 15 17:11 bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 butaiban 6333 May 14 16:22 build -rw-r--r-- 1 butaiban 4315 Jul 12 20:08 build.bat -rwxr-xr-x 1 butaiban 6039 Mar 15 1996 build.cmd drwxr-xr-x 8 butaiban 512 Sep 18 13:31 contrib drwxr-xr-x 3 butaiban 512 Sep 18 13:31 doc drwxr-xr-x 4 butaiban 512 Sep 18 13:33 imap -rw-r--r-- 1 butaiban 1551 Mar 15 1996 makefile drwxr-xr-x 2 butaiban 2560 Sep 18 13:31 pico drwxr-xr-x 3 butaiban 2048 Sep 18 13:32 pine now i don't know what to do can you help now please thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21402; Wed, 18 Sep 96 04:11:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA28803 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:05:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA28798 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:05:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3KNv-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 04:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert F Evans Jr Subject: ELM to PINE alias converter Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:50:13 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1875600-3650-843007813=:69340950" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1875600-3650-843007813=:69340950 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here is a simple ELM to PINE alias converter that I have written in C if anyone cares. Several of my people were using ELM and we have switched to PINE. So we needed a way to convert all the aliases. It will append new aliases from ~/.elm/aliases.txt to ~/.addressbook if it exists (after warning that it already exists). If ~/.addressbook does not exist, it creates it and puts aliases from ~/.elm/aliases.txt in it. If ~/.elm/aliases.txt does not exist, it prompts you for a remote computer from which to fetch ~/.elm/aliases.txt. The source code is attached. Hope this helps... 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(8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA09117 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:20:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA09112 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:20:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3Kbp-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 04:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mentor Cana Subject: Bouncing mail to newsgroups? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:38:04 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello all, Is it possible to bounce selected messages to a newsgroup? Thanks... Mentor P.S. please cc: me on the reply... thanks... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16988; Wed, 18 Sep 96 04:42:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA29180 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:38:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA29175 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:38:09 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: [139.141.1.3]) id QQbhrq13664; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 07:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10829; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:01:49 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06721; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:00:39 -0300 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:00:38 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Subject: .pine.debug In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home > directory to another direcotory > can you help me on that please > i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc > thanks > > Omar Butaiban > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22759; Wed, 18 Sep 96 04:44:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA29216 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:40:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA29211 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:40:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3Kvl-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 04:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert F Evans Jr Subject: PINE 3.95 for Winsock? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:51:23 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a PINE 3.95 for Winsock? Regards, Bob =============================================================== Robert Evans bob@purdue.edu Coordinator of Technical Services (317)494-2658 work Purdue University http://www.soe.purdue.edu/staff/misc/bob/ School of Education, LAEB 6139 (317)494-5832 fax West Lafayette, IN 47907 bob@soe.purdue.edu =============================================================== "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 05:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21741; Wed, 18 Sep 96 05:39:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA29902 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 05:33:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA29897 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 05:33:18 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id OAA03546; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:31:37 +0200 Message-Id: <199609181229.OAA25038@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id OAA25038; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:29:12 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:06:00 +0200 (MET DST) To: Omar Butaiban Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: installing pine In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: -> -> how can i install pine? -> i ftp pine from a site -> and gunzip it and untar it -> but i don;t know now what to do -> i have this directory when i untar the tar file -> { pine3.95 } which has the following files: -> burgan% cd pine3.95 -> /home/butaiban/pine/pine3.95 -> burgan% ls -l -> total 34 -> -rw-r--r-- 1 butaiban 2674 Jun 11 03:33 CPYRIGHT -> -rw-r--r-- 1 butaiban 1390 Jun 12 13:37 README -> drwxr-xr-x 2 butaiban 512 Jul 15 17:11 bin -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 butaiban 6333 May 14 16:22 build -> -rw-r--r-- 1 butaiban 4315 Jul 12 20:08 build.bat -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 butaiban 6039 Mar 15 1996 build.cmd -> drwxr-xr-x 8 butaiban 512 Sep 18 13:31 contrib -> drwxr-xr-x 3 butaiban 512 Sep 18 13:31 doc -> drwxr-xr-x 4 butaiban 512 Sep 18 13:33 imap -> -rw-r--r-- 1 butaiban 1551 Mar 15 1996 makefile -> drwxr-xr-x 2 butaiban 2560 Sep 18 13:31 pico -> drwxr-xr-x 3 butaiban 2048 Sep 18 13:32 pine -> -> now i don't know what to do -> can you help now please -> thanks -> -> Omar Butaiban -> You only need to type build stands for the OS where you want pine to build. It is a 3-letter flag of the suffixes you see by typing ls pine/makefile.??? Eamples: 1) build sol for Solaris 2.x whith cc-compiler 2) build gso for Solaris 2.x whith gcc-compiler 3) build lnx for Linux ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 06:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31785; Wed, 18 Sep 96 06:10:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA10417 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 06:06:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA10412 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 06:06:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3MHb-00038TC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 06:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Sending problem on Pine for OpenVMS In-Reply-To: <51mhu1$meg@news.doit.wisc.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <51mhu1$meg@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:34:05 GMT On 17 Sep 1996, Bill Patterson wrote: > We are running Innosoft's Pine under OpenVMS. One of our users can't > send any messages using Pine. It is working OK for all other users and I > can't find anything wrong. > > When he enters control-X to send a message that he composes, then the screen > just freezes and no message is sent. Check the terminal emulation settings. Some terminal emulations assign a special meaning to ctrl-X. Try sending ESC ESC X instead of ctrl-X Can't think of any othe rsuggestions at the mo. -- best regards " 'cause this is real life, under-rehearsed, no proper tunes..." (V.Wood) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 06:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23810; Wed, 18 Sep 96 06:47:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA00919 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 06:41:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA00914 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 06:41:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3MrL-00038UC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 06:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Dennis M. Gray" Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 08:07:23 +1000 Message-Id: <323B2C9B.78865F8A@fareast.com.au> References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> <323AAE33.591A5057@capecod.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Javier Iglesias wrote: > > > > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? > > > > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? > > > > thanks! I use Netscape most of the time but Pine works fine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18680; Wed, 18 Sep 96 10:51:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA16587 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:46:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA16582 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:46:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3QdT-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 10:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dale Bewley Subject: Re: Filtering...how to? Message-Id: <323D8C56.6F13@iupui.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 12:20:22 -0500 References: <514lqg$p8k@news.Hawaii.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jamie Kanoa Renard wrote: > > Please can someone help me I need to know how to filter my mail, there is > this annoying pain in the @ss who keeps sending me e-mail, I would just > not like to recieve any more of his e-mail. Could someone tell me how to > do this? Thanks > > -Atheist 2 URLs you might find very usefull: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/procmail/ http://las.alfred.edu/~pav/archives/unspam.pl -- # Dale Bewley $contact = ( mailto:dlbewley@iupui.edu || http://www.engr.iupui.edu/~dbewley/perl/ ); From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29200; Wed, 18 Sep 96 11:11:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA07074 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:01:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA07069 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:01:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3QsS-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 10:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jchen@taro.poi.net (jchen ) Subject: Install Pine Date: 18 Sep 1996 16:22:41 GMT Message-Id: <51p7kh$lhh@pegasus.interpac.net> Hi Where can I get some information on installing pine on a unix system? Can I just install it on my own dir? Or does it have to be intall by the system admin? Thanks for any info, John From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30892; Wed, 18 Sep 96 11:43:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA17776 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:37:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA17771 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:37:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3RSC-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 11:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Newark@cris.com (MOBILE02) Subject: Can pine fetch remote POP accounts? Date: 18 Sep 1996 18:13:20 GMT Message-Id: <51pe40$mbb@herald.concentric.net> Hi... I use pine for my work account and Eudora to fetch mail from my POP accounts at home. I was wondering... is it possible to use pine to fetch mail from remote POP accounts? If so, what is the syntax? And this would be even nicer: is it possible to get it to fetch mail but leave it on the remote POP server so that I can still get that mail at home. Thanks for any suggestions. If possible, please cc: a copy of your response to my e-mail below. mobile02@concentric.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30130; Wed, 18 Sep 96 12:24:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA18786 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:17:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bank5.u.washington.edu (bank5.u.washington.edu [140.142.43.229]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA18779 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:17:01 -0700 Received: from localhost by bank5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17844; Wed, 18 Sep 96 12:17:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Forwarded mail.... (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From deirdreg@u.washington.edu Fri Sep 13 10:17:53 1996 Status: O X-Status: Newsgroups: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene cc: cc Fcc: sent-mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:52:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Forwarded mail.... Could you let me know why this text has started to appear after every e-mail i send, as it was not here yesterday i was wondering if i did something to make it appear. I would like to get rid of it so if you could let me know how i would appreciate it, Thanks Deirdre From deirdreg@u.washington.edu Fri Sep 13 10:17:53 1996 Status: O X-Status: Newsgroups: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene cc: cc Fcc: sent-mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:11:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene To: pine-info@cac.washinton.edu I was just wondering if you could help me. The script following this message appears on every e-mail i send and as no-one else in my office has this and as i did not have it yesterday i was wondering if you could help me understand why it has now appeared and how to get rid of it. Thanks, Deirdre. From deirdreg@u.washington.edu Fri Sep 13 10:17:53 1996 Status: O X-Status: Newsgroups: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Deirdre Greene cc: cc Fcc: sent-mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22247; Wed, 18 Sep 96 12:57:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA09619 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:52:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA09614 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:52:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3Sac-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 12:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wiu09524@rrzc5 (Ulrich Windl) Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? Date: 18 Sep 1996 13:37:20 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Tushar Teredesai's message of Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:10:57 -0500 I just put it into my customized haeder... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02778; Wed, 18 Sep 96 13:43:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA20908 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:39:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA20903 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:38:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA86432; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:35:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:35:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: Deirdre Greene Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Forwarded mail.... (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It looks like you have added the text to your signature file. I could be wrong. But a good way to check...goto Main Menu [S] setup then [S] signature and it will show you what's in the signature file. > > > >From deirdreg@u.washington.edu Fri Sep 13 10:17:53 1996 > Status: O > X-Status: > Newsgroups: > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: Deirdre Greene > cc: cc > Fcc: sent-mail > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:52:46 -0700 (PDT) > From: Deirdre Greene > To: Pine Info Mailing List > Subject: Forwarded mail.... > > > Could you let me know why this text has started to appear after every > e-mail i send, as it was not here yesterday i was wondering if i did > something to make it appear. I would like to get rid of it so if you could > let me know how i would appreciate it, Thanks Deirdre > > >From deirdreg@u.washington.edu Fri Sep 13 10:17:53 1996 > Status: O > X-Status: > Newsgroups: > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: Deirdre Greene > cc: cc > Fcc: sent-mail > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:11:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: Deirdre Greene > To: pine-info@cac.washinton.edu > > > I was just wondering if you could help me. The script following this > message appears on every e-mail i send and as no-one else in my office has > this and as i did not have it yesterday i was wondering if you could help > me understand why it has now appeared and how to get rid of it. Thanks, > Deirdre. > > >From deirdreg@u.washington.edu Fri Sep 13 10:17:53 1996 > Status: O > X-Status: > Newsgroups: > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: Deirdre Greene > cc: cc > Fcc: sent-mail > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02748; Wed, 18 Sep 96 14:01:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA21338 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:56:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA21333 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:56:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3Tbw-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 13:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Another Suggestion Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:31:42 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII And I'm tired of confirming everything before I do it. Actually sending out a letter is not such a monumental event that it should require a second thought (and confirmation). When I'm done with a letter, I want to hit ^X and be done with it. I know that most of the "confirm before doing" options can be turned off. Why can't we turn off all of them? -- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: http://ultra.infoseek.com ============================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03926; Wed, 18 Sep 96 14:07:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA11421 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:01:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA11413 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:01:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3TjO-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 14:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?NAU_Jean-Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Subject: informations about the net Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:46:59 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A friend of mine has asked me recently who pays for the net (for example who pays new connections between to countries), and I couldn't tell him exactly, so I thought I could find it on the Web, but I can't find anything about it there. Could anyone tell me where I can find an article about it? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02147; Wed, 18 Sep 96 16:15:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA14676 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:11:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is4.nyu.edu (IS4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.137]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA14666 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:11:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by is4.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/26Mar96-0600PM) id AA17437; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:11:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:11:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Amy Kim To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: how can i display pictures? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi. i have a question about displaying pictures sent to me via email. it seems that i am unable to access them for some reason. i have a macintosh performa 637cd. and the following is the description of the image sent: subtype- JPEG, Encoding- BASE64, Approx.size- 12,199 bytes, display method-unknown format. i have no idea what any of this means, but perhaps it will hold some significance to you. if you could help me out that would be very much appreciated. thanks. amy kim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06760; Wed, 18 Sep 96 16:28:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA14953 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:24:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from solaria07.Stanford.EDU (solaria07.Stanford.EDU [36.214.0.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA14948 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:24:44 -0700 Received: (from yueyang@localhost) by solaria07.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA14731; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:24:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Yue Yang X-Sender: yueyang@solaria07.Stanford.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem with forwarding.. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, I have a problem with PINE 3.95 ( I believe ) installed on Stanford University Leland machine: when I tried to forward a msg, the original message was not included, which is really annoying. Is there a way to fix that by changing setting? Thanks a lot! Best regards, yy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29391; Wed, 18 Sep 96 18:52:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA27754 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:48:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA27749 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:48:17 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 19 Sep 96 09:53:27 +0800 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:45:04 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Yue Yang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problem with forwarding.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Yue Yang wrote: > Dear Sir, > > I have a problem with PINE 3.95 ( I believe ) installed on Stanford > University Leland machine: when I tried to forward a msg, the original > message was not included, which is really annoying. Is there a way to fix > that by changing setting? You will *best* be served by going (from the Main Menu) to S(etup), C(onfig) and reading/understanding the various options available to you. Somewhere along the line you will find.... [X] include-text-in-reply This seems to fit what you need..... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00246; Wed, 18 Sep 96 19:35:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA18560 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:32:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA18555 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:32:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3Yqx-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 19:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jchen Subject: Re: Install Pine Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:41:34 -1000 Message-Id: References: <51p7kh$lhh@pegasus.interpac.net> <199609181819.OAA13436@nka1.med.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199609181819.OAA13436@nka1.med.uc.edu> Thanks for the info. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08710; Wed, 18 Sep 96 19:49:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA18767 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:46:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA18762 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:46:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 18 SEP 96 19:43:40 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:43:40 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Help with Attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Boy, did I really mess up today. I was at a friend's house (a Netscape user) and decided to try logging into my account (we share the same ISP). Little did I know that his system is set to download all messages off the server. So, I go home & log into Pine as usual and, guess what?? No messages! I called him right away & he had all of my mail on his system, so we get the bright idea that he could forward them to my address (which he did) but now I've got one message with 55 attachments!! Some I want to save, others I don't... what are my options?? Just a pleasant reminder of why I still access the net through a shell account, I suppose. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08776; Wed, 18 Sep 96 20:07:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA28789 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:02:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA28784 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:02:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3ZNk-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 20:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: [Q] Copying sent messages to folders Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:40:29 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: | Is there any way I can have pine ask me which folder I would like |to copy the message to as I am sending it or something. I know about the |Fcc field on my address book but I would rather classify them by what they |are about than by who I am sending them to. I haven't found a slick way, but every once in a while I open the folder I keep my sent mail in and (s)ave each message into a different appropriate file. Cheers, Bev .............................................................. "Tough? We drink our urine and eat our dead!" -- N. Heilweil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10726; Wed, 18 Sep 96 21:46:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA20279 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:42:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA20274 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:42:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3atj-00038BC; Wed, 18 Sep 96 21:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christoph Spoerri Subject: additional page is printed with each printed message Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:35:15 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't know it this is the right news group, but I'll try it once. I have a problem printing with pine. Pine itself runs on a UNIX machine, to which I connect from a PC. The PC is on a network and therefore prints to a network printer. Now, whenever one of the PCs on the network print from pine, an additional page come after each printed e-mail/message. On each page there are always the same three characters. Does any body have an idea where the bug could be? By the way this thing just recently started happening, after upgrading the network to LANWork 5. Thank's for any help, Chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11916; Wed, 18 Sep 96 22:00:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA20417 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:57:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hmmm.alaska.net (hmmm.alaska.net [206.149.69.94]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id VAA20412 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:57:24 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by hmmm.alaska.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00318; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:12:46 GMT Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:12:46 GMT Message-Id: <199609182012.UAA00318@hmmm.alaska.net> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Url: mailto:pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.5FM From: hmmm@alaska.net pine 3.95 / fbsd 2.1.5 isp - pop3 only. 1. pine bombs out to shell irradically, "recieved Abort signal". every few minutes. all my other Inet stuff is fine. 2. can't delete messages off my isp server. is there any other way to delete messages off my server other than telnetting in to my isp and other than running a popclient? nothing to just move the INBOX off the server to my pc? thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12885; Wed, 18 Sep 96 23:09:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA21266 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:06:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA21261 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:06:03 -0700 Received: from hmmm.alaska.net by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08401; Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:06:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:09:27 +0000 () From: hmmm To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: abortions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i apologize if this is a duplicate. pine keeps crashing on me, can't tell if my last post was sent. i get randomly timed messages -Problem detected "abort signal received"- pine 3.95 / fbsd 2.1.5 my other inet stuff is ok. also, is there no other way other than a popclient to delete messages? isn't there someway to have pine transfer & delete my INBOX on my isp's server? thank you - please reply by email ... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13625; Thu, 19 Sep 96 00:33:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA02110 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:29:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slmc.stluke.com.ph (ip226.i-manila.com.ph [203.172.14.226]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA02105 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:29:47 -0700 Received: (from ronnel@localhost) by slmc.stluke.com.ph (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA05138; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:41:57 +0800 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:41:57 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: Ronnel Godinez To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printers???? we need help!!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i'm a librarian of the st.luke's college of medicine and we are using the pine e-mail system. we have some trouble to print the e-mail text messages of our clients. could you give some any infomation on how to print using dos or windows? it would be a big help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 08:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19806; Thu, 19 Sep 96 08:38:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA08950 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 08:33:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from titan.vcu.edu (titan.vcu.edu [128.172.1.37]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA08938 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 08:33:50 -0700 Received: from localhost by titan.vcu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21348; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:32:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:32:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Melanie L. Russell" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: stop it!!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i tried pine e-mail, just once, yesterday. and since then i have received 221 messages from you--all the same exact message, 221 times. since i have logged on today i have received 11 more of the same fucking message. stop it. now. i don't know if this is an accident, or if it is not your fault...either way, i do not care. if you do not know how to prevent this annoying, frustrating incident from occuring again, ask someone for help, or tell me where i can get help with this. if i have not made myself very clear, let me do so now... stop sending your messages to me. do not send me anything. ever. also, i will be sure to notify the next 10 e-mail users i see today at my university that if they try out your pine e-mail, they may encounter the same frustrating affair that i have encountered. once again...just stop it. a reply is not necessary, just stop it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21631; Thu, 19 Sep 96 09:47:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA01187 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:42:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hsc.usc.edu (hsc.usc.edu [128.125.253.156]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA01182 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:42:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (lxia@localhost) by hsc.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id JAA11747; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:42:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Luxi Xia To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: lucy xia Subject: Quistion about Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! My name is Lucy, I have used "pine" in my E-mail for several month, it worked well. But when I opened "pine" today, I find all of my Fold massags has gone! There are not any thing to view by me! I didn't deleted and save them, I don't know where I can find all of previous massages? Whould you please give me a instruction? I'm lookforword your help. because there is some massage very important to me. Thanks a lot! Lucy 96-9-19 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22916; Thu, 19 Sep 96 10:23:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA12023 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:19:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wormhole.nav.cc.tx.us (wormhole.nav.cc.tx.us [205.165.189.130]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA12017 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:19:26 -0700 Received: by wormhole.nav.cc.tx.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA12632; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:20:23 -0500 Received: from dilbert.nav.cc.tx.us(205.165.188.145) by wormhole via smap (V1.3) id sma027184; Thu Sep 19 12:19:54 1996 Received: from localhost by dilbert.nav.cc.tx.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA72850; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:24:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:24:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Dana Brewer X-Sender: dana@dilbert To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine timing out In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've just tried searching the archives of this list and couldn't find an answer to this problem. We've created a batch of student accounts which will be using Pine 3.93 on a RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.5. The .profile takes the students directly into Pine and then logs them off the system when they type "Q" - so they're not allowed to the Unix prompt at all. For some reason, these students are being logged off the system after 2 minutes of inactivity. I've been looking for some sort of timeout value in Pine's configuration, but I haven't been able to find anything so far. I don't believe it could be at the Unix level. However, our regular user accounts *don't* sign off after inactive periods. Also, some of these student accounts don't sign off. We've comparing every system file in the student accounts line by line, but so far have found no differences. Has anyone else ever encountered this problem? ************************************************************************** Dana Brewer Director, Computer Center Internet: dana@nav.cc.tx.us Navarro College Phone : 903-874-6501 3200 W. 7th Ave. FAX : 903-874-4636 Corsicana, TX 75110 All opinions stated are my own, and probably don't even vaguely resemble those of Navarro College. :) ************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22880; Thu, 19 Sep 96 11:07:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA13583 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:04:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA13578 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:04:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3nRW-00038TC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 11:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pete Brunelli Subject: Bounce, automated? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:06:04 -0400 Message-Id: <32416F6C.367E@connix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can bounce be made to automatically bounce incoming mail to another account? Thanks _____________________________ .../ pete brunelli /\... / / http://www.connix.com/~pcb / // / /............................./ /// /.................................\../// /....[].[].[].[].[].[].[].[].[].[]...// /..................................../ \............................/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24535; Thu, 19 Sep 96 11:38:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA04556 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:34:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA04549 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:34:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3nux-00038BC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 11:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Terry Gray Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 INBOX folders Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:19:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The best you can do at this point is use TAB to cycle through the incoming folders. It will only stop and open the folder if there are new messages. -teg On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Mark Habersack wrote: > > I have several Incoming Folders on my system. How do I make Pine report when > a message arrives to any of these folders, and not only when it comes to INBOX > folder? I'd like to know that any of these folders contains messages WITHOUT > having to open them one by one. > Thanks in advance > > Mark > > ********************************************************************** > So if you ask me how do I feel inside, I could honestly tell you we've > been taken on a very long ride. And if my owners let me have free time > some day, with all good intention I would probably run away! > Clutching the short straw... > ******************* http://ananke.amu.edu.pl/~grendel **************** > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25586; Thu, 19 Sep 96 11:52:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA04987 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:49:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smtp.interlog.com (smtp.interlog.com [198.53.145.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id LAA04982 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:49:15 -0700 Received: from gold.interlog.com (gold.interlog.com [198.53.145.2]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with ESMTP id OAA18826 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pagal@localhost) by gold.interlog.com (8.7.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA04941 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:49:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gold.interlog.com: pagal owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:49:09 -0400 (EDT) From: ">>>>>> Da PaGaL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ok..waht u see below is a list of how to get in touch with me..except my internet provider just insatlled this new version of pine..pine 3.95..i honestly feel it is a much beter..and enjoyable vversion of pine.. however..if u look below..the information should be in colours..however when viewed with this version of pine..the colours dont appear..and teh codes do...i was wondering if it is a setting thing taht i have missed..or messed...or is it aht u guys have taken that out?..i really liked the color things alot... plz let me konw wat it is...and if i can get them bak.. p.s. if there is like some list of kewl things to do with pine..like these color things..plz send me that information as well..i would really appreciate it..:) pagal@interlog.com | Contact Me @: | ,,, | (.~.)  |--oOOo--(_)--oOOo-- | Ahmad Rahman | PaGaL BuNda | PM of PaGaLiStaN | pagal@interlog.com | s2rahman@acs.ryerson.ca | arahman@pancreas.com | pagal@pancreas.com | ahmad@pancreas.com | Private: 416-762-6841 | Pager: 416-381-5624 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26446; Thu, 19 Sep 96 12:32:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA15930 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:29:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA15925 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:29:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3okQ-00038BC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 12:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Virtual Joe Subject: Re: name in index folder Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 09:33:33 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Keiko wrote: > I'm using PINE 3.39 and I can't figure out how to make my personal name > appear in the index folder when I post a message to a newsgroup. all it > says is "To: {whatever newsgroup}" What can I do? It only looks that way to you. Everyone else sees it as being from you. *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: < http://www.creighton.edu/~jduche/>> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26464; Thu, 19 Sep 96 12:38:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA06051 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:34:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA06046 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:34:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3opw-00038BC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 12:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Virtual Joe Subject: Re: How to config character different from US-Ascii??? Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 09:30:17 -0500 Message-Id: References: <51oacc$sbq@voyager.iii.org.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51oacc$sbq@voyager.iii.org.tw> On 18 Sep 1996, PC_USER wrote: > I get a lot of Chinese mail. From time to time, I get messages > saying the e-mail is using iso-8859-1 character set, and my display > is US-ASCII character set. The message is garbled. Any way to fix this > problem? If you go to your Config setup (Main, then "s" then "c") and go down until you see "character-set=", you can then insert a different one there. *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: < http://www.creighton.edu/~jduche/>> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27710; Thu, 19 Sep 96 13:48:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA17642 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:44:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA17635 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:44:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3puv-00038BC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 13:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine timing out Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:37:00 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Dana Brewer wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > > On 19 Sep 1996, Dana Brewer wrote: > > > > > For some reason, these students are being logged off the system after 2 > > > minutes of inactivity. I've been looking for some sort of timeout value > > > > Have you checked the .pine-debug* files? They should give an > > indication of why Pine exited.... > > > > --DLM > > Yes, I have - but I don't really understand what it's trying to tell me. > Here's a sample of one of the .pine-debug files: > ... > > > ** Parent found to be init!?! > > about to end_tty_driver > Aha! Recent versions of Pine try to figure out if it is still connected to a user by checking the parent process-id to see if it is process 1 (init). If it is, Pine assumes that the user was disconnected and Pine somehow missed the SIGHUP. This was implemented to handle a problem of zombie Pine sessions on some systems... The most likely cause of this is that the shell that started Pine exited for some reason. It is possible that the shell doesn't set up all of the signal handlers before sourcing .profile. It is also possible that the shell is responding to a signal from a process that Pine forked. Does that give you any clues? If not, please send a copy of your script(s) and configuration to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28636; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:11:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA18407 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA18402 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3qCp-00038TC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: porting 3.95 to Linux Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:25:06 +0000 Message-Id: References: <51bp7b$ci0@tick.cs.wm.edu> <51csai$8mj@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51csai$8mj@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> On 13 Sep 1996, Greg Putrich wrote: > Date: 13 Sep 1996 16:56:02 -0700 > From: Greg Putrich > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: porting 3.95 to Linux > > Luiz Felipe L. Perrone wrote: > > : Has anybody successfully ported Pine 3.95 to Linux ? > > : Any info would be very much appreciated. Please > : email me directly as well as posting to the newsgroup. > > -- > I found on my HD last night 3.95 for Linux. It was the binary for it and > runs great. I don't remember where I got it tho. If you're interested, I > can make it avail via anon-ftp. Let me know if you (or anyone else) wants > the binary vers. I don't have the source code. The binary, and source, for 3.95 (linux binary, and source which compiles fine), are on the ftp.cac.washington.edu site. :) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg Putrich - Internet: gregp@primenet.com [PINE] > Public Key 27E97EBD = 62 0E B9 A2 45 D2 64 AC 8A B4 6D 9D 5B 23 90 1F > > "This is not rocket science, it's brain surgery." - C.M. Burns > > Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "May you live in.. Interesting Times." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28691; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:12:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA18436 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA18431 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3qDK-00038VC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: Vi and Pine Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:26:38 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:28:53 -0700 > From: Harry Slaughter > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Vi and Pine > > Is there any chance that the next version of Pine will allow me to use vi > commands when editing headers and other things within Pine? I like Pine a > lot, but I hate Pico and hate having to learn a lot of new and awkward > commands just to edit my address-book and headers and so on. I know the two > are closely related, but couldn't they take into consideration those who > prefer other editors? Switch on the "use-alternate-editor" option, and put vi in the slot for "alternate-editor" down the bottom of the config screen? :) > Just wonderin' > > -- > > ~~~^~ > `0^0' > (* " *) > ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ > Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation > harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com > 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 > --------------------------------------------- > Harry's Homepage: > http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys > Check out the best new engine on the web: > http://ultra.infoseek.com > ============================================= > > > Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "May you live in.. Interesting Times." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28631; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:12:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA18415 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA18409 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3qCV-00038BC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 13:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chiyung@b1.hkstar.com (Chan Chi Yung) Subject: Mark mail read Date: 19 Sep 1996 15:31:43 GMT Message-Id: <51rp0v$hkg@capella.hkstar.com> Hi, I wonder if there is a function that can mark all mail read, if it did, it save me a lot of time! Thanks -- Best Regards, Aldoliu Chan. ============================================================================== = Citybus Ltd. (Hong Kong) = = = = e-mail: = = aldoliu@mailhost.net, chiyung@hkstar.com, aldoliu.chan@iconet.hongkong.net = ============================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28666; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:12:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA18429 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA18423 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3qDc-00038WC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paige A. Niederer" Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 INBOX folders Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 08:34:28 -0600 Message-Id: <324159F4.1AAC@nrcs.usda.gov> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Habersack wrote: > > I have several Incoming Folders on my system. How do I make Pine report when > a message arrives to any of these folders, and not only when it comes to INBOX > folder? I'd like to know that any of these folders contains messages WITHOUT > having to open them one by one. > Thanks in advance > > Mark > > ********************************************************************** > So if you ask me how do I feel inside, I could honestly tell you we've > been taken on a very long ride. And if my owners let me have free time > some day, with all good intention I would probably run away! > Clutching the short straw... > ******************* http://ananke.amu.edu.pl/~grendel **************** Sorry, I can't answer your question but I have one for you if you don't mind answering. How do you specify certain incoming mail to go to certain folders? Is this a feature of version 3.95 ( I'm using 3.94)? Please respond by mail. Thanks, -- *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* |Paige A. Niederer niederer@nrcs.usda.gov| |USDA - NRCS (970) 282-2462| |Computer Scientist - Hardware Integration Laboratory | |2625 Redwing Road, Suite 110 | |Fort Collins, CO 80526 | *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28780; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:12:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA18445 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA18440 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3qEN-00038XC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: NEIL GRANTHAM Subject: PINE on VMS Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:54:18 +0000 Message-Id: <32417ABA.46F628D2@snowdn.cv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello out there, Is anyone using PINE on OPENVMS, I have compiled it, but using compose or reply (^X) I get the following message:- Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. And I just 'bomb' out. Has anyone else had this and know how to solve the problem please Neil Grantham From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28381; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:13:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA18421 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA18416 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:06:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3qD7-00038UC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: alternate editor command Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:25:44 +0000 Message-Id: References: <51jnv3$hmt@news.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51jnv3$hmt@news.fsu.edu> On 16 Sep 1996, Joseph Cain wrote: > Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:24:35 GMT > From: Joseph Cain > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: alternate editor command > > I put an X in the enable-alternate-editor-cmd using superuser mode and > it appears also when I look on my own account. However, when I compose > a message it always goes to pico. Am I missing some other setting I > need to make to have this function? Did you actually specify and alternate editor? > ________________________________________________________________________ > Joseph Cain > cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu > (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 > > Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "May you live in.. Interesting Times." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29621; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:44:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA09347 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:41:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ceddec.ceddec.com (mercury.ceddec.com [207.91.200.193]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA09342 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:41:55 -0700 Received: (from shutdown@localhost) by ceddec.ceddec.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA31502 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:42:06 -0400 Received: from deimos(207.91.200.7) by ceddec via smap (V1.3) id sma031498; Thu Sep 19 17:41:36 1996 Received: by deimos (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0v3qNY-000EHDC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 17:11 EDT Date: Thu, 19 Sep 96 17:11 EDT Received: from localhost(127.0.0.1) by deimos.ceddec.com via smap (V2.0alpha) id xma008042; Thu, 19 Sep 96 17:11:21 -0400Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:11:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Zerucha Reply-To: tz@execpc.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine locks up for several seconds when reading - why? (repost) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Linux pine 3.95. When I browse an index and mark several messages as deleted, and start reading, or go back from reading to the index, pine often stops and does something that requires lots of disk accessing (maybe it is checkpointing the mailbox). It is not swapping pages in virtual memory, and there is no banner saying what it is doing, but it will lock up for several seconds to a minute (the more messages the longer), but remember keystrokes. Expunging takes the same amount of time, but isn't any faster after one of these apopletic seizures. Why does it do this, and how do I make it stop. (please cc my actual account as well as responding to the list) tz@execpc.com finger tz@execpc.com for PGP key From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29396; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:57:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA19572 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:54:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA19564 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:54:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3r2y-00038TC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: Message saving Date: 15 Sep 1996 04:59:41 GMT Message-Id: <51g2ft$c4p@dns.ktb.net> References: Kevbosuk (kpd@dana.ucc.nau.edu) wrote: | Pine will not let me save my messages. It says that it can't create a | certain mailbox because there is no such file or directory. | Please help me. Wild-assed guess: Your .pinerc file directs that your mail be saved into a file in a non-existent subdirectory. I think pine defaults to someting like ~/Mail/saved-mail. If the subdirectory (Mail) doesn't exist, it can't save any files into it. Check your configuration. (Menu|Setup|Config) Bev bashley@ktb.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Don't you just KNOW that there is more than one Sierra Club member who is absolutely sure that the dinosaurs died out because of something humans did? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29799; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:57:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA09645 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:54:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA09640 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:54:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3r2f-00038BC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 14:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: me@somewhere.com Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Mon, 16 Sep 96 09:59:07 GMT Message-Id: <51j8eb$8vj@herald.concentric.net> References: <50sdtg$cru@sgi.computek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable In article <50sdtg$cru@sgi.computek.net>, hemicuda@computek.net (HemiCuda) wrote: >: I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and >: fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here >: over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it >: came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably >: nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with >: that in the From: field? > >Are you logging into the Linux machine as "ness"? You'll need to be doing >that if you are not now. Also, in Pine setup, you can set the domain name >so that it'll show "usa.net" after the "user@". =20 > Or you can set the environment variables HOSTNAME and LOGNAME to the correct values. You should make a .login file in your home directory that looks like this (or the variables will be reset to their default each time you log on): #/bin/csh setenv HOSTNAME usa.net setenv LOGNAME ness From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19560; Thu, 19 Sep 96 15:29:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA20526 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:27:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eos03a.eos.ncsu.edu (eos03a.eos.ncsu.edu [152.1.9.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA20520 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:27:25 -0700 Received: from sn02pa-214.stat.ncsu.edu by eos03a.eos.ncsu.edu (8.7.3/ES20May96) id SAA27465; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3241C8CA.1BE2@eos.ncsu.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:27:22 -0400 From: Jimmy Akira Doi Organization: North Carolina State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: 'Vacation' mode on PINE? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any way I can send an automatic reply to all incoming messages indicating that I am out of town and would be unable to answer their email messages immediately? Thanks J. Doi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30577; Thu, 19 Sep 96 15:34:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA20691 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:33:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA20686 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:33:02 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA12430; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:33:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: tz@execpc.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine locks up for several seconds when reading - why? (repost) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One way to see if Pine is doing a checkpoint is to "enable-mail-check-cue" Then you'll see one asterisk in the upper left corner while it is checking for new mail, and two asterisks while it is checkpointing the mailbox state. -teg On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Tom Zerucha wrote: > > I am using Linux pine 3.95. When I browse an index and mark several > messages as deleted, and start reading, or go back from reading to the > index, pine often stops and does something that requires lots of disk > accessing (maybe it is checkpointing the mailbox). It is not swapping > pages in virtual memory, and there is no banner saying what it is doing, > but it will lock up for several seconds to a minute (the more messages the > longer), but remember keystrokes. Expunging takes the same amount of > time, but isn't any faster after one of these apopletic seizures. > > Why does it do this, and how do I make it stop. > > (please cc my actual account as well as responding to the list) > > tz@execpc.com > finger tz@execpc.com for PGP key > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31247; Thu, 19 Sep 96 16:12:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA11675 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:10:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA11670 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:10:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3sEC-00038BC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 16:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clint Danbury Subject: Who's fault ? Pine ? Mine ? Yours ? Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:54:44 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using telnet, and so I have become accustomed to the cursor not responding to my keystrokes. I have also become accustomed to waiting for actions to occur; frequently 30-to-90 seconds or so. Tonight I just spent about 15 minutes composing a message to a newsgroup. I gave pine the send command, and the little "propeller" did its thing for a long time, then told me that something went wrong, and that was the end of the whole thing. I could not receive the test of the message. I also could not receive the text of the error; I believe that I remember something about the word "connection" in there. So, anyway, did I cause this error ? Did my service provider cause this error ? Did pine cause this error ? Should I quit using Pine ? Is this common with pine ? Oh, incidentally, the subject of the article was dealing with internic, and the newsgroup was the thing on domains, I don't have scrolling turned on my software here, so I can't give all the details like I want to do. Anyway, whom is the most likely culprit in this event, me ? My service provider ? Pine ? internic ? Gumby and Pokey ? What's the best way to avoid this in the future ? Nix telnet and pay for a real telephone call ? Thanks go to anyone who provides answers and advice which work in real life. Clint ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; - ; Please send full names and social security numbers of - ; anyone you know, especially government officials, well - ; known media stars, corporate human resources directors, - ; and anyone else you may have or can get, to me at - ; - ; danbury@ssnShirt.com Clint Danbury - ; Box 742226 - ; Dallas, TX 75374-2226 - ; - ; A Q&A document explaining this project will be emailed to - ; any person who convinces me that they really want to - ; know what this is all about. - ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31900; Thu, 19 Sep 96 18:27:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA24460 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:25:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA24453 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:25:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3uIF-00038BC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 18:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: renard@Hawaii.Edu (Jamie Kanoa Renard) Subject: Filtering...how to? Date: 10 Sep 1996 21:16:00 GMT Message-Id: <514lqg$p8k@news.Hawaii.Edu> Please can someone help me I need to know how to filter my mail, there is this annoying pain in the @ss who keeps sending me e-mail, I would just not like to recieve any more of his e-mail. Could someone tell me how to do this? Thanks -Atheist From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02630; Thu, 19 Sep 96 23:02:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA28247 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:00:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA28242 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:00:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3yc7-00038VC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 22:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Failed reply Date: 15 Sep 1996 10:21:21 -0400 Message-Id: References: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) writes: >I just wish there >was some real simple way to deal with the situation where the e-mail >address of some person given by the news server is not correct. I wish >there was a simple way of posting that message once you find out there >was a mail delivery problem, since replying by e-mail did not work. How about just typing F for forward and then ^R for rich headers and then type the news group name(s) in the Newsgrps header, edit the subject so that it is what it was in the bounced message and then edit the message so that it's what you want to post and post it using ^X. This is one of the many advantages of Pine being both a mailer and news reader. Note that this will not post the References header, which means it won't be threaded correctly by threaded news readers, but since it's a rare event, I say go for it! -Nancy (posted and mailed) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02854; Thu, 19 Sep 96 23:58:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA19308 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:55:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA19303 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 23:55:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3zRK-00038TC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 23:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jie.yuan@uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Can pine fetch remote POP accounts? Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:26:40 -0400 Message-Id: References: <51pe40$mbb@herald.concentric.net> In article <51pe40$mbb@herald.concentric.net>, Newark@cris.com (MOBILE02) wrote: > Hi... I use pine for my work account and Eudora to fetch mail from my POP > accounts at home. > > I was wondering... is it possible to use pine to fetch mail from remote > POP accounts? If so, what is the syntax? And this would be even nicer: is > it possible to get it to fetch mail but leave it on the remote POP server > so that I can still get that mail at home. Yes. The default inbox is "Inbox". If you change to "{you@remote.com/POP3}Inbox", you access the remote host via POP3. You can also use IMAP if the remote host supports it (my school's server does). In that case, you omit the "/POP3" qualifier. If you server does IMAP, and you access mail at home using PC/DOS/WIN, there is PC-Pine. If you use Mac, there is a MailDrop from Baylor Univ. They all can do IMAP. PC-Pine can do POP3 also. -- -- Jie Yuan - Dept. of Pharmacology & Cell Biophysics - U. Cin. -- -- Cin, OH 45267-0575 - Fax: 513-558-1169 - using NewsWatcher -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02989; Fri, 20 Sep 96 00:50:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA29539 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:46:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA29534 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:46:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v40Ei-00038TC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 00:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kjell Andresen Subject: Re: Untitled Date: 16 Sep 1996 12:04:52 GMT Message-Id: <51jfp4$4l@ratatosk.uio.no> References: In-Reply-To: butaiban@burgan.Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW's message of 15 Sep 1996 where can i get the lastest version of pine thanks Omar Butaiban >ftp ftp.cac.washington.edu -Kjell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03075; Fri, 20 Sep 96 00:51:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA19984 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:48:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA19979 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:48:41 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA16580 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:48:39 +0200 X-Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA13813 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:06:29 +0200 X-Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA04556 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:34:32 -0700 X-Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA04549 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:34:28 -0700 X-Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v3nux-00038BC; Thu, 19 Sep 96 11:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Terry Gray Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 INBOX folders Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:19:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:48:22 +0200 (MET DST) Resent-From: Bruno Boettcher Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: The best you can do at this point is use TAB to cycle through the incoming folders. It will only stop and open the folder if there are new messages. -teg On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Mark Habersack wrote: > > I have several Incoming Folders on my system. How do I make Pine report when > a message arrives to any of these folders, and not only when it comes to INBOX > folder? I'd like to know that any of these folders contains messages WITHOUT > having to open them one by one. > Thanks in advance > > Mark > > ********************************************************************** > So if you ask me how do I feel inside, I could honestly tell you we've > been taken on a very long ride. And if my owners let me have free time > some day, with all good intention I would probably run away! > Clutching the short straw... > ******************* http://ananke.amu.edu.pl/~grendel **************** > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25772; Fri, 20 Sep 96 00:55:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA20052 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:52:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA20045 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:52:16 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA16629 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:52:15 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:52:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 INBOX folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > The best you can do at this point is use TAB to cycle through the incoming > folders. It will only stop and open the folder if there are new messages. > Is there an option to do circle scan? I find the prompt at the end of the scan quite annoying. I would like to specify 2 more options to the behaviour of the scan: at end of scan return to inbox and at end of scan stay in actual folder. Is this already implemented? ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03689; Fri, 20 Sep 96 01:12:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA29751 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:04:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA29746 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:04:07 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA16710; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:58:52 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:58:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: "Paige A. Niederer" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 INBOX folders In-Reply-To: <324159F4.1AAC@nrcs.usda.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Paige A. Niederer wrote: > Mark Habersack wrote: > > > > I have several Incoming Folders on my system. How do I make Pine report when > > a message arrives to any of these folders, and not only when it comes to INBOX > > folder? I'd like to know that any of these folders contains messages WITHOUT > > having to open them one by one. > > Thanks in advance exerpt out of my .bashrc: LISTBOXES=`find /home/bboett/mail -type f |sed 's/\(.*\)/\1?"New mail in \1"/' |tr "\012" ":"` MAILPATH=/var/spool/mail/bboett:$LISTBOXES > Sorry, I can't answer your question but I have one for you if you don't mind > answering. How do you > specify certain incoming mail to go to certain folders? Is this a > feature of version 3.95 ( I'm using 3.94)? > > Please respond by mail. since i answered the first one too: out of my .deliver: #!/bin/sh SENDER=`cat $HEADER | grep "From " | cut -d' ' -f 2` case $SENDER in *pine*) cat $HEADER $BODY >>/home/bboett/mail/pine_in; echo DROP;; *) echo $SENDER > sender; echo "$1" esac When using deliver You have to know, that there are 3 environment variable defined: SENDER, where's the From: field (unsuitable for discussion lists, therefore my redefinition...) HEADER where's stored the header of the mail and BODY where's the body of the mail. ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 02:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09848; Fri, 20 Sep 96 02:49:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA21372 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 02:46:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA21367 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 02:46:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v428Y-00038UC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 02:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcin@usk.pk.edu.pl (Marcin Klimowski) Subject: Re: Bounce, automated? Date: 20 Sep 1996 09:31:56 GMT Message-Id: <51toac$l0i@info.cyf-kr.edu.pl> References: <32416F6C.367E@connix.com> Pete Brunelli wrote: : Can bounce be made to automatically bounce incoming mail to another : account? use .forward file in your $HOME for this purpose. just place address for the mail in this file. : Thanks and shorten this ugly sigblock. : : _____________________________ : .../ pete brunelli /\... : / / http://www.connix.com/~pcb / // : / /............................./ /// : /.................................\../// : /....[].[].[].[].[].[].[].[].[].[]...// : /..................................../ : \............................/ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marcin Klimowski | Marcin.Klimowski@pk.edu.pl | hit ANY user to continue ..it's de facto >>--| http://www.pk.edu.pl/~marcin |-->> 4 line only sig.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. (C) marcin 1995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 03:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04152; Fri, 20 Sep 96 03:54:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA01686 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 03:52:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA01681 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 03:52:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v437b-00038VC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 03:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jab38@bton.ac.uk (buckenham) Subject: finding addresses Date: 19 Sep 1996 14:28:22 GMT Message-Id: <51rla6$5ab@saturn.brighton.ac.uk> Is there any way of finding out peoples email addresses ie an email directory. Only interested in uk addresses. -- Jason Buckenham jab38@brighton.ac.uk Department of Computing Information Systems Msc From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 05:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05727; Fri, 20 Sep 96 05:48:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA23565 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 05:41:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA23559 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 05:41:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v44tQ-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 05:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: truran@cf.ac.uk Subject: AIX 3.2 :Pine3.95 won't send mail (Never has) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:31:16 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi there, thanks for reading this. This week I have built pine3.95 on our RS6000 ,AIX 3.2.1. It seems to run ok, but messages like "domain name incorrect" and "return mail address might be wrong" are displayedon the menu. The problem :- When sending mail CTRL X (as I remember), pine locks solid and I have to eventually kill the process. Any ideas, I would appriaciate help Richard Bioengineering University Hosp. of Wales Cardiff truran@cardiff.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06389; Fri, 20 Sep 96 06:24:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24027 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:22:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24022 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:22:26 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA19727; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:22:09 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:22:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: buckenham Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: finding addresses In-Reply-To: <51rla6$5ab@saturn.brighton.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 19 Sep 1996, buckenham wrote: > Is there any way of finding out peoples email addresses ie an email > directory. Only interested in uk addresses. > try with web search IAF, or find a host with x.500 support... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22660; Fri, 20 Sep 96 06:39:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA03774 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:36:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA03768 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:36:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v45iS-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 06:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: stop it!!! Date: 19 Sep 1996 17:42:43 GMT Message-Id: <51s0mj$25u@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What is it? Who sent you 221 copies of the same email? Don't post to the group this kind of message. Jie ------------------------------------------------------------------ In article , arh5mlr@titan.vcu.edu ("Melanie L. Russell") writes: > > i tried pine e-mail, just once, yesterday. and since then i have received > 221 messages from you--all the same exact message, 221 times. since i > have logged on today i have received 11 more of the same fucking message. > > stop it. > now. > > i don't know if this is an accident, or if it is not your fault...either > way, i do not care. > if you do not know how to prevent this annoying, frustrating incident from > occuring again, ask someone for help, or tell me where i can get help with > this. > > if i have not made myself very clear, let me do so now... > > stop sending your messages to me. > do not send me anything. > ever. > > also, i will be sure to notify the next 10 e-mail users i see today at my > university that if they try out your pine e-mail, they may encounter the > same frustrating affair that i have encountered. > > once again...just stop it. a reply is not necessary, just stop it. > -- -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29504; Fri, 20 Sep 96 06:49:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24337 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:46:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chinet.isdn.wwa.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24329 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:46:04 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (localhost) by chinet.isdn.wwa.com ; 20 SEP 96 08:43:56 CDT Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:43:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Adding the "References: " header (was Failed reply) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: References: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: , In-Reply-To: , > From: Nancy McGough > Date: 15 Sep 1996 10:21:21 -0400 > abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) writes: > >I wish there was a simple way of posting that message once you find out > >there was a mail delivery problem, since replying by e-mail did not work. > How about just typing F for forward and then ^R for rich headers > and then type the news group name(s) in the Newsgrps header,... > Note that this will not post the References header, which means > it won't be threaded correctly by threaded news readers, but since > it's a rare event, I say go for it! No one on this list/newsgroup has yet agreed with me, but I think that as Usenet users we should all voluntarily cooperate with conventions even if pine doesn't. pine gives us the opportunity to customize our headers. If I use pine to post news, or post an article via a mail-to-news gateway, I add the Message ID of the article I am referencing by cutting the Message-ID into the References: header. To make this easier, I add "References: " to my customized composer headers, and "Message-ID: " to my customized viewer headers. I wish there were a way to overcome pine's limitation preventing the user from adding additional message IDs to the "In-Reply-To: " header. Like "References: ", the RFC implies that "In-Reply-To: " can contain the message IDs of each message being referenced in the reply. (As always, I've also added my own meaningless "References: " and "In-Reply-To: " headers to the body of my message, as mail-to-news gateways do not always pass all the headers through.) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06433; Fri, 20 Sep 96 07:03:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24457 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:56:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24452 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:56:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v460t-00038TC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 06:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hiran Chaudhuri Subject: wrong from field in pine Message-Id: <3238285E.2B88@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:12:30 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there. Somehow, since upgrading the whole linux system, I have problems with the mail system. Whenever somebody sends a mail, the from-field will be filled with @ instead of @. I checked sending mail with sendmail, and that works fine... Any suggestions? Hiran From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06571; Fri, 20 Sep 96 07:03:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA04140 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:01:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA04135 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:01:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v467Q-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 06:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jimmy A. Doi" Subject: 'Vacation' mode in PINE? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:53:45 -0400 Message-Id: <3241CEF9.5D05@eos.ncsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way for PINE to automatically reply to all incoming messages indicating that I am out of town and would not be able to answer their messages immediately? Please send an email response to jadoi@eos.ncsu.edu Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31400; Fri, 20 Sep 96 08:17:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA25619 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:12:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA25614 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:12:20 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA23410; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:12:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jie Yuan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can pine fetch remote POP accounts? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Corrections: 1. Using Pine with POP3 does not result in all messages being fetched, with the implication that they can be viewed after disconnecting. (Pine does not yet support offline operation.) However, that also means that nothing gets deleted from the server unless you explicitly mark it deleted. 2. PC-Pine does not yet support POP. -teg On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Jie Yuan wrote: > In article <51pe40$mbb@herald.concentric.net>, Newark@cris.com (MOBILE02) wrote: > > > Hi... I use pine for my work account and Eudora to fetch mail from my POP > > accounts at home. > > > > I was wondering... is it possible to use pine to fetch mail from remote > > POP accounts? If so, what is the syntax? And this would be even nicer: is > > it possible to get it to fetch mail but leave it on the remote POP server > > so that I can still get that mail at home. > > Yes. The default inbox is "Inbox". If you change to > "{you@remote.com/POP3}Inbox", you access the remote host via POP3.. You > can also use IMAP if the remote host supports it (my school's server > does). In that case, you omit the "/POP3" qualifier. > > If you server does IMAP, and you access mail at home using PC/DOS/WIN, > there is PC-Pine. If you use Mac, there is a MailDrop from Baylor Univ. > They all can do IMAP. PC-Pine can do POP3 also. > -- > -- Jie Yuan - Dept. of Pharmacology & Cell Biophysics - U. Cin. -- > -- Cin, OH 45267-0575 - Fax: 513-558-1169 - using NewsWatcher -- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06413; Fri, 20 Sep 96 08:21:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA25764 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:19:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA25759 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:19:38 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA15851; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:19:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:19:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Bruno Boettcher Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 INBOX folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruno, These options are not yet available. Question about suggestion 1: So you just want to avoid the prompt and have "Return to INBOX?" be implicit? Question about suggestion 2: I'm not clear on which folder you want to stay in. As you know, Pine stays in the last one with recent messages, or by prompt takes you back to the inbox. Are you saying you'd like options equivalent to "always say yes" and "always say no" to the prompt? -teg On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > The best you can do at this point is use TAB to cycle through the incoming > > folders. It will only stop and open the folder if there are new messages. > > > Is there an option to do circle scan? I find the prompt at the end of the > scan quite annoying. I would like to specify 2 more options to the > behaviour of the scan: at end of scan return to inbox and at end of scan > stay in actual folder. > > Is this already implemented? > > ciao > bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24911; Fri, 20 Sep 96 09:21:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA06844 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:18:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA06839 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:18:06 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA73018; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:14:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:14:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: NNTP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to use my ISP for my computer at home to access news via nntp on the unix system @ work...but I do not know the correct syntax to put my user name so it won't deny access. Is this possible? NNTP = isp.net news collection = *{isp.net/nntp ...............??? user id adgmac help please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREA D. GONZALES adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29071; Fri, 20 Sep 96 09:34:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA07116 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:32:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA07111; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:31:59 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA22046; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:31:55 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:31:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 INBOX folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Question about suggestion 1: So you just want to avoid the prompt and > have "Return to INBOX?" be implicit? exactly, should be an option as delete_without_confirm etc... > > Question about suggestion 2: I'm not clear on which folder you want to > stay in. As you know, Pine stays in the last one with recent messages, > or by prompt takes you back to the inbox. Are you saying you'd like > options equivalent to "always say yes" and "always say no" to the prompt? yes exactly, when scanning other inboxes, if no other new mail is found, i am prompted if i want to return into inbox. I would then like to say default behaviour is Yes i want or no, without beeing prompted. But for the 'no'option this would be useful only if scanning was circular... ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18108; Fri, 20 Sep 96 09:35:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA27695 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:32:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jade.saintmarys.edu (jade.saintmarys.edu [147.53.6.51]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA27690 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:32:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by jade.saintmarys.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA007287464; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:37:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:37:43 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell Reply-To: Dan Mandell To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Subject: Configuration Problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been experimenting with Pine 3.95 on our HP (hpux 9.04) and have experienced unpredictable delays in sending messages. This morning I noticed the following diagnostic message which perhpas will provide a clue regarding some of the intermittent delays. "Can't write in directory containing .addressbook.lu, using temp file" Can anyone tell me what this message refers to. My setup configuration has defaults for local addressbook, and /usr/local/lib for the global addressbook. Dan -- Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu Adding wings to caterpillars does not create butterflies--it creates awkward and dysfunctional caterpillars. Butterflies are created through transformation." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06726; Fri, 20 Sep 96 11:05:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA00431 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:02:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA00426 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:02:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v49qD-00038UC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 10:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 INBOX folders Date: 19 Sep 1996 15:41:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mark Habersack writes: >I have several Incoming Folders on my system. How do I make Pine report when >a message arrives to any of these folders, and not only when it comes to INBOX >folder? I'd like to know that any of these folders contains messages WITHOUT >having to open them one by one. What do you use to filter your messages? With procmail, you can use mailstat to tell you about new messages. With filter, you can use `filter -s'. See my Filtering Mail FAQ for details: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12998; Fri, 20 Sep 96 11:09:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA09745 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:07:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA09740 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:07:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v49vd-00038UC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 11:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Marc D. Williams" Subject: Can't get INBOX Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 04:11:50 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howdy All, I've been messing with PC-Pine for quite awhile and can't seem to get to an inbox. I've tried at least a dozen different inbox-path settings with no luck. The best thing I get is: ([CLOSED]) imap connection broken (server response) Is it possible to add a password to {domain.name/user=marcw}. I've heard reference to passwords but don't know how it's set. Anyhind, I've asked my ISP about the PC-Pine problem and haven't received a response yet. As you can see I can read/compose news (and compose email via news) but can't do email email. Any tips? Danke, Marc -- >> ANIME SENSHI << Marc D. Williams marcw@bbs.annex.com > Annex! Online marc@hwsys.com > Interludes marc.williams@f903.n218.z1.fidonet.org > Bad Dog BBS marc.williams@mb.fidonet.org > The Mailbox marc.williams@idibbs.com > Idaho Interactive BBS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14193; Fri, 20 Sep 96 11:45:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA01574 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:42:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA01567 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:42:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4AVl-00038TC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 11:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dvillar@jet.es (Daniel Villar) Subject: [Q] Pc-Pine 3.95 (Win16) Configuration. Date: 20 Sep 1996 18:35:40 GMT Message-Id: <51uo5s$er1@artemis.ibernet.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Application/octet-stream; name=texto Hi folks, After having used a DEC Alpha (and pine as my mail tool) for a while, now I'm back at home with my PC. I liked the program so I was interested in running it on my home computer. However, I just can't get it to work ok. After configuring it I get the following error: No inbox! Folder to open as inbox : and it stops prompting for a new name. I'd be really thankful to anybody helping me setting up the first fields in the 'config' screen. These are my email account data ... Real name : Daniel Villar Email address : dvillar@jet.es POP3 server : jet.es login : dvillar SMTP server : correo.jet.es Is there a way of getting rid of the message and making it work? Mail OnNet is not that bad for dealing with the mail and so far, it's proved to do the job, but apart from being used to pine, I never liked a lot those fancy GUIs with drag and drop facilities. Any help please? Thanks very much in advance. P.S.: If useful, both servers are supposed to be Linux boxes. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14763; Fri, 20 Sep 96 12:04:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA11418 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:02:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA11413 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:02:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4Alk-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 11:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce G Cornelius Subject: Re: How do you set the return address? Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:30:05 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Thanks for your advice, Nathan, but I tried that four different ways and couldn't get it to work. The best it would do is come up as "Reply:" on the rich text header. I tried the following: Reply to: Replyto: Replyto: Bruce Cornelius Replyto: The first one should have worked but it just gave me the "Reply" under the rich text and it never showed up on messages. I am using PINE 3.91, and it's on another acccount. AARRGGH On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Nathan Richards wrote: > On 20 Sep 1996, Bruce G Cornelius wrote: > > > Could someone tell me how to set the return address on Pine to be > > different from the e-mail address from which I'm sending, but without > > changing this configuration for anything else? > > > > Thank you in advance for your reply. > > > > -- Bruce > You have to have Pine 3.91 or ablove in order to do this. > > Go to Setup, Config > Cursor down to Customized-Headers and press A to add one. > type Reply to: and press enter > press E to exit out of there and quit Pine. > > Voila. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11689; Fri, 20 Sep 96 12:26:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA11927 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:23:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA11922 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:23:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4B9C-00038TC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 12:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert Mail Address Lists Date: 20 Sep 1996 19:12:37 GMT Message-Id: <51uqb5$i8h@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora, Netscape, Pine and Elm All possible translations are supported. You can find these at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08438; Fri, 20 Sep 96 12:29:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA12049 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:27:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA12042 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:27:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4BE7-00038TC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 12:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Bounce, automated? Date: 20 Sep 1996 15:21:25 -0400 Message-Id: References: <32416F6C.367E@connix.com> <51toac$l0i@info.cyf-kr.edu.pl> marcin@usk.pk.edu.pl (Marcin Klimowski) writes: >and shorten this ugly sigblock. > >: _____________________________ >: .../ pete brunelli /\... >: / / http://www.connix.com/~pcb / // >: / /............................./ /// >: /.................................\../// >: /....[].[].[].[].[].[].[].[].[].[]...// >: /..................................../ >: \............................/ I don't think it's ugly at all - I even saved it in my sig gallery! To me the following sig is the ugly one... >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Marcin Klimowski | Marcin.Klimowski@pk.edu.pl | hit ANY user to continue >..it's de facto >>--| http://www.pk.edu.pl/~marcin |-->> 4 line only sig.... >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any >form, in whole or in part. (C) marcin 1995 >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12485; Fri, 20 Sep 96 12:42:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA12266 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:38:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chinet.isdn.wwa.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA12255 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:38:51 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (localhost) by chinet.isdn.wwa.com ; 20 SEP 96 14:36:35 CDT Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:36:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do you set the return address? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: In-Reply-To: > From: Bruce G Cornelius > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:30:05 -0500 > I tried the following: > Reply to: > Replyto: > Replyto: Bruce Cornelius > Replyto: Read the context-sensitive help text for the configuration of Customized-hdrs. The exact name of the header is given there. The information you need to add is: Reply-To: corn0060@gold.tc.umn.edu and you can skip the angle brackets. You may not have spaces in header tag text. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10699; Fri, 20 Sep 96 14:40:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA06302 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:37:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA06296 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:37:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4DD3-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 14:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dvanecek@third-wave.com (David Vanecek) Subject: Pine uses CPU time Date: 20 Sep 1996 00:08:16 GMT Message-Id: <51sn9g$s8c@news.third-wave.com> Would anyone care to speculate what a detached pine process on BSDi would be doing to consume two thousand CPU minutes? I see several of these regularly on a system I visit. Spamming? Junk Mailing? Some kind of hack? The amount of outbound mail traffic doesn't seem *that* big... Someway to read news? Any thoughts would be appreciated, particularly by E-mail. D.V. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19102; Fri, 20 Sep 96 15:44:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA17149 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:42:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA17144 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:42:57 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA28237; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:42:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:42:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: David Vanecek Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine uses CPU time In-Reply-To: <51sn9g$s8c@news.third-wave.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Presumably looping on some event that is never going to happen... Is this happening with version 3.95? If so, please sig QUIT one of the suckers and send a stack trace to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu -teg On 20 Sep 1996, David Vanecek wrote: > Would anyone care to speculate what a detached pine process on > BSDi would be doing to consume two thousand CPU minutes? > > I see several of these regularly on a system I visit. > > Spamming? Junk Mailing? Some kind of hack? The amount of outbound > mail traffic doesn't seem *that* big... Someway to read news? > > Any thoughts would be appreciated, particularly by E-mail. > > D.V. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20782; Fri, 20 Sep 96 16:16:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA17818 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:12:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA17813 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:12:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4EkM-00038TC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 16:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sally gregg Subject: Need Help about Name In "From" column! Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:45:13 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am a real computer illiterate, but something has happened that I don't know how to fix. I have been using Pine for almost a year, and when opening up a newsgroup, on the board in the "From" column, my name always appeared next to the thread subject. Just last week, I switched over to the "new" Isis system, which the university is requiring us to do. All went well, but when I post to a ng now, instead of seeing my name, there appears a "to. & then the name of the ng." I went into Set-Up, Configuration, but I don't see anything there that I can relate to in that area. Is there a simple way to correct this problem? I would certainly appreciate any help - I called our "Help Desk," but the person there didn't have a clue, and she said someone will have to get back to me, but it may be "quite awhile." Thanks, Sally From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20809; Fri, 20 Sep 96 16:42:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA09305 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:37:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA09300 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:37:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4F6P-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 16:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Pine Looping on Newsreader Failure (long) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:33:05 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to pass this on to the Pine Development Team as a possible bug report. I apologize for posting it, but I cannot use the normal bug reporting process, because my service provider goofed and misconfigured the bug reporting screens off the main menu. (I reported this to my help desk in early August and followed up on it, but they still haven't gotten around to fixing the goof.) The configuration is Pine 3.94 under SunOS 4.1.4. News is read via an nntp server. It has happened several times that I will be reading Usenet news with Pine. When I finish with one newsgroup, I delete and expunge all the articles and press TAB to go on to the next group listed in my .newsrc file. Normally there is no problem, but occasionally something has happened in the connection with the news server. The little task indicator whirls and whirls, and eventually the connection suffers a timeout with an appropriate message. Unfortunately, instead of just stopping at that point and doing something like returning to the folder list screen, Pine attempts to GO ON TO THE NEXT NEWSGROUP, where the same thing happens. Eventually it would futilely attempt to go through all my unread newsgroups. Unfortunately, I cannot find a way to break out of this deadly situation short of crudely breaking my dialup telephone connection and terminating my shell session by brute force. This, of course, is a real pain. Is there a bug in V3.94 such that it will not recognize and honor Ctrl-C when Pine is trying to open a newsgroup? Is there some other way to break out of this situation (even terminating Pine as such) so I can get out of this kind of deadly embrace? (If the reply is to upgrade to 3.95, my service provider has already rejected that on the ground that 3.95 is buggy, as I mentioned in an earlier post.) Thanks. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14289; Fri, 20 Sep 96 16:44:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA18476 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:42:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA18471 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:42:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4FBA-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 16:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: 'Vacation' mode on PINE? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 19:53:59 -0400 Message-Id: References: <51shgo$aa3@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51shgo$aa3@rain.psg.com> On 19 Sep 1996, Jimmy Akira Doi wrote: > Is there any way I can send an automatic reply to all incoming messages > indicating that I am out of town and would be unable to answer their > email messages immediately? Thanks Not with Pine as such. A 'vacation' reply is part of the mail *delivery* process. Pine gets into the picture as part of the mail *reading* process after delivery is complete (skipping sending for now). Therefore, you need something that hooks into the delivery process. If you are using Pine under some flavor of Un*x operating system then you can use 'vacation' itself (or something a little dressier, like 'procmail'). If you are on a different system, you will have to use some other process I am not familiar with. Nancy McGough has a lot of good material on her WWW pages. I don't remember the top URL, but I have a link in my home page. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22486; Fri, 20 Sep 96 19:24:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA11880 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:23:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA11874 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:23:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4Heb-00038TC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 19:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: mail? Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:26:18 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 16 Sep 1996, chris wrote: > Date: 16 Sep 1996 16:29:32 -0700 > From: chris > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: mail? > > i've been sitting here for hours feeling really stupid. > i can't get my mail from my isp's pop3 server. > (they don't have imapd ...) > > i have v3.95 / fbsd. where's the "getPOP3mail" option? > > > Use a POP client (I use popclient on linux), and make it retrive your mail box for you. My popclient call is thus: #!/bin/sh popclient -3 -v -uUSENAME -pPASSWORD -c 194.145.1.31 >> /var/spool/mail/root Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "May you live in.. Interesting Times." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23349; Fri, 20 Sep 96 19:25:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA20916 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:23:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA20911 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:23:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4HeY-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 19:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: Wrong From record (as you see) ;-) Can someone help me? Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:25:16 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Robert Duic wrote: > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:24:33 +0200 > From: Robert Duic > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Wrong From record (as you see) ;-) Can someone help me? > > > Well as you see in From record where shold be my name ther is a > "to:comp.mail.pine" . What should i change in .pinerc to correct post the > article to newsgroups ? > > BTW I upgrade from 3.93 to 3.95 and problems begun :( It's a feature, for your own reference, enjoy it! Basically it means you can easily tell which posts / mails are *from* yourself, so you can skip over them without reading them.. purely a convenience thing. :) > Please replay to me directly. > > > Robert Duic > WIMAL International > > Phone: (48 22) 47-94-62 > Fax: (48 22) 47-94-22 > E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl > > > Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "May you live in.. Interesting Times." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20863; Fri, 20 Sep 96 20:59:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA22061 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA22056 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:56:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 20 SEP 96 19:53:52 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:53:52 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: "Jimmy A. Doi" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 'Vacation' mode in PINE? In-Reply-To: <3241CEF9.5D05@eos.ncsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Seems that there was some mention of this last month. Apparently, there's a unique program that's NOT part of Pine called "vacation." What I recall is that you need to execute it from the root directory, and not all ISPs provide thi p[rogram. Good luck! ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Jimmy A. Doi wrote: > Is there a way for PINE to automatically reply to all incoming messages > indicating that I am out of town and would not be able to answer their > messages immediately? Please send an email response to > jadoi@eos.ncsu.edu Thanks! > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24403; Fri, 20 Sep 96 21:11:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA22242 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:10:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA22231 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:10:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 20 SEP 96 20:02:12 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:02:12 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Looping on Newsreader Failure (long) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've experienced this situation as well, Paul. The only way out for me has been to break the line connection and log in again. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > I am trying to pass this on to the Pine Development Team as a > possible bug report. I apologize for posting it, but I cannot use the > normal bug reporting process, because my service provider goofed and > misconfigured the bug reporting screens off the main menu. (I reported > this to my help desk in early August and followed up on it, but they > still haven't gotten around to fixing the goof.) > > The configuration is Pine 3.94 under SunOS 4.1.4. News is read via > an nntp server. > > It has happened several times that I will be reading Usenet news > with Pine. When I finish with one newsgroup, I delete and expunge all > the articles and press TAB to go on to the next group listed in my > .newsrc file. Normally there is no problem, but occasionally something > has happened in the connection with the news server. The little task > indicator whirls and whirls, and eventually the connection suffers a > timeout with an appropriate message. Unfortunately, instead of just > stopping at that point and doing something like returning to the folder > list screen, Pine attempts to GO ON TO THE NEXT NEWSGROUP, where the > same thing happens. Eventually it would futilely attempt to go through > all my unread newsgroups. > > Unfortunately, I cannot find a way to break out of this deadly > situation short of crudely breaking my dialup telephone connection and > terminating my shell session by brute force. This, of course, is a > real pain. Is there a bug in V3.94 such that it will not recognize and > honor Ctrl-C when Pine is trying to open a newsgroup? Is there some > other way to break out of this situation (even terminating Pine as > such) so I can get out of this kind of deadly embrace? (If the reply > is to upgrade to 3.95, my service provider has already rejected that > on the ground that 3.95 is buggy, as I mentioned in an earlier post.) > > Thanks. > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02946; Fri, 20 Sep 96 21:30:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA13413 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:28:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA13408 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:28:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4Jbo-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 21:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: add@pecos.is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham) Subject: How to specify build arguments? Date: 19 Sep 1996 21:37:17 GMT Message-Id: <51seed$k47@listserv.rice.edu> I'm just about to build pine on three different architectures (Sun 4, Solaris 2.5, and Irix 5.3). I'm trying to specify make arguments to build, but they don't really seem to work. Specifically, under sun if I give './build CC=gcc sun' It eventually runs 'echo cc > CCTYPE' and proceeds to run using cc. Similar attempts to specify debugging or Cflags also fail. I also tried setting the environment variable CC, but that didn't work either. It seems to me I'm going to have to modify more than one makefile for each of the builds. Is there any way around this? I don't mind the work, but it's terribly hard to maintain. When >3.95 comes out, it's much easier to leave a note saying 'for our systems try the command "build CC=gargle FOO=megaplex WHAT=ever sun"' than it is to mention where and how to edit makefiles. -- Darren Dunham add@is.rice.edu UNIX Sysadmin Rice University (This line currently in revision) Houston, TX Any resemblance between real opinions and my post is coincidental From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03200; Fri, 20 Sep 96 21:34:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA13471 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:33:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id VAA13466 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:33:05 -0700 Received: from homer23.u.washington.edu (homer23.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.3]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA20318 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:33:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by homer23.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA98881; Fri, 20 Sep 96 21:33:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "D. Chiu" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, Sept 29, 1996 d32chiu wrote: Hi. Is there a system malfunction or something? When I tried to retrieve my email, the bottom of the screen said "[Closed] IMAP connection broken (server response). What does this mean? I can only compose emails, and I cannot retrieve. My address is d32chiu@u.washington.edu if you can correct it directly. I don't know how this happened. It was working fine yesterday. Can you help? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09757; Fri, 20 Sep 96 21:38:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA22559 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:37:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA22554 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:37:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 20 SEP 96 20:34:28 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:34:28 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Name in the Column Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whenever I post a msg through Pine 3.95 to a newsgroup or to a listserv, instead of my name appearing in the left column, I'm seeing a statement that starts with "To: xxxxx." Can anyone explain this? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24668; Fri, 20 Sep 96 22:06:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA22833 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:02:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA22828 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:02:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 20 SEP 96 20:59:51 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:59:51 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Vacation Msg (YIKES!!) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I decided to try the "vacation" program to see if it's installed here and guess what? Here's the message I received: UX: vacation: INFO: vacation notification installed UX: vacation: INFO: logging will go to '/home/lindae/.maillog' UX: vacation: INFO: '/usr/share/lib/mail/std_vac_msg' will be used for the connect message OK, gurus, how do I get out of this one? And how can I change the standard vacation message when I am ready to use the program? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 00:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25302; Sat, 21 Sep 96 00:15:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA24292 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 23:53:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA24287 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 23:53:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4Lrp-00038BC; Fri, 20 Sep 96 23:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Capt.Evangelos Rigos" Subject: CONFIGUATION Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:49:57 -0700 Message-Id: <32431185.26A8@Rigos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently, I got my own domain name and my E-Mail address is Evangelos@Rigos.com When I send an E-mail with a script, the correct address is going out. When I send mail with my pine, pine is picking up the old address. I can configure the second part to read Rigos.com. How can I configure the first part to read Evangleos? Thanks Evangelos From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 00:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24601; Sat, 21 Sep 96 00:40:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA15723 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 00:38:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA15718 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 00:38:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4MdS-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 00:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: stop it!!! Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:41:52 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 19 Sep 1996, Melanie L. Russell wrote: > i tried pine e-mail, just once, yesterday. and since then i have received > 221 messages from you--all the same exact message, 221 times. since i > have logged on today i have received 11 more of the same fucking message. Umm, that's either a problem with your server, or some individual is mail bombing you. I've been using Pine since last year, and, other than a few configuration problems that were corrected, it has ran flawlessly. > stop it. > now. > > i don't know if this is an accident, or if it is not your fault...either > way, i do not care. Geez! Aren't we in a bad mood! Next time, try to remedy this problem with your ISP or system admin. before making childish posts like you have done. If you're not absolutely sure what the problem is, it's a good idea to check locally (that is, with your admin.) first. I'm judging that you didn't do this, or you wouldn't have made this post in the first place. > if you do not know how to prevent this annoying, frustrating incident from > occuring again, ask someone for help, or tell me where i can get help with > this. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Precisely what you should have done before complaining with foul language to this newsgroup!! > if i have not made myself very clear, let me do so now... How can you make yourself clear to us when you're not 100% sure why you're having your problems?! Sheese! > stop sending your messages to me. > do not send me anything. > ever. Who are you talking about??? Most people on comp.mail.pine are totally confused about this. > also, i will be sure to notify the next 10 e-mail users i see today at my > university that if they try out your pine e-mail, they may encounter the > same frustrating affair that i have encountered. Oh boy. That's a good way to spend a portion of your life: tell those users a problem YOU are not even sure about. Go ahead. Spread the confusion. > once again...just stop it. a reply is not necessary, just stop it. Again, what the hell are you talking about????? Get your facts straight, then we will have a better chance of helping you. Obviously, you don't want that at the moment. Judging by your name, I take it you're female. Just to be blunt since you were in your post, is it that time of the month? -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s - MIDI, Humor, KI2, etc. } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 01:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26194; Sat, 21 Sep 96 01:40:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA25579 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 01:37:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zone.jcm.com (jcm.com [198.175.186.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA25571 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 01:37:44 -0700 Received: by zone.jcm.com (5.65/1.35) id AA01126; Sat, 21 Sep 96 01:37:41 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 01:37:39 -0700 (MST) From: "John C. Musselman" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: missing file? someone please help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i recently ftp'd pine3.95.tar.gz from ftp.cac.washington.edu and attempted to compile it for isc (interactive unix). i ran into the following problem: in the pine directory, in the makefile.isc, there is a reference to osdep/iscextra, however this file does not exist in the tar of 3.95 or 3.94. Can you please help? The program appears to really need this to compile :) thank you very much ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- john@jcm.com The elevator to success is broken today.... John C. Musselman You'll have to take the steps... one at a time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02105; Sat, 21 Sep 96 03:57:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA26908 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 03:54:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA26903 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 03:54:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4PgL-00038TC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 03:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Printing from Pine 3.93 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:49:04 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We've run into a situation in regards to printing mail messages. They print fine, but they're going to the wrong printer. We'd like for Pine to print to the line printer (when using "lp" from Unix), but it goes to our laser printer instead. I'll tell you how our system is configured. Users get to their accounts by using telnet from Windows and Macs. When they press "Y" to print, Pine asks them if they want to print using "attached-to-ansi". When they say Yes, Pine apparently sends a command over the telnet connection to tell the PC or the Mac to print, which sends the message to the laser printer. We rather have the messages print to the line dot-matrix printer, which is what we thought Pine would do. The only way around this is to export the message from Pine, then use "lp" to use the line printer. Isn't there a way to change the printing location for Pine 3.93? I went into Setup/Config and didn't see an option to change the location. Does this have to be configured on the PCs and Macs? Any information would be deeply appreciated. Thanks for reading. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s - MIDI, Humor, KI2, etc. } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26806; Sat, 21 Sep 96 04:08:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA17986 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:05:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA17918 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:04:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4PnP-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 04:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krin@wam.umd.edu (Karen E. King) Subject: Opening a specific newsgroup? Date: 20 Sep 1996 16:10:03 -0400 Message-Id: <51utmr$liu@rac4.wam.umd.edu> I know how to open a specific mail folder in pine (pine -f ), but is there a way to automatically open a specific newsgroup? Karen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 07:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28344; Sat, 21 Sep 96 07:01:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA29015 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 06:59:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA29010 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 06:59:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4SX5-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 06:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Henor Hysa Subject: Saving a URL Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 23:16:55 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm wondering if it's posible to save a URL and if yes how? Thanks Henor Hysa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29629; Sat, 21 Sep 96 08:06:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA20319 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:04:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA20314 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:04:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4Tba-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 08:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: Vi and Pine Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:32:50 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I can't tell you how much I'd love to give up trying to figure out all these damn control-this-and-that commands. I mean control-f to move right? Come on!, I thought this was to move down a full screen! Control-b to move left. Give me a break, I'm tired of learning non-portable editing commands for every unix client I want to use. Give us Vi! Pine Dev. People??? Harry On 18 Sep 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > Harry Slaughter writes: > >Is there any chance that the next version of Pine will allow me to use vi > >commands when editing headers and other things within Pine? > > Yes, yes, yes, this would be great! I'm always typing jjj to try > to move up into the headers and then dd to try to delete a line. > > -Nancy vi-is-hard-wired-into-my-fingers McGough > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > > -- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ Harry Slaughter @Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: .oooO ---> http://ultra.infoseek.com ( ) Oooo. =======\ (====( )========================== \_) ) / (_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29348; Sat, 21 Sep 96 08:12:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA20413 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:09:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA20408 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:09:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4TcL-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 08:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Aleksei Katuntsev Subject: Physic? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:46:55 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is anybody know some physic newsgroup? --------------------- / Aleksei Katuntsev \ < worm@ut.ee > \ Tartu University / --------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29325; Sat, 21 Sep 96 08:13:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA29704 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:09:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA29699 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:09:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4Tch-00038UC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 08:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wpatterson@asap.bus.wisc.edu (Bill Patterson) Subject: Sending problem on Pine for OpenVMS Date: 17 Sep 1996 16:00:01 GMT Message-Id: <51mhu1$meg@news.doit.wisc.edu> We are running Innosoft's Pine under OpenVMS. One of our users can't send any messages using Pine. It is working OK for all other users and I can't find anything wrong. When he enters control-X to send a message that he composes, then the screen just freezes and no message is sent. If he enters control-C at this point, then he is booted out of Pine and back to an OpenVMS prompt. Any ideas as to what is wrong? Thanks, in advance, for your comments. Bill Patterson Applied Security Analysis Program UW-Madison School of Business wpatterson@asap.bus.wisc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29519; Sat, 21 Sep 96 08:13:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA29711 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:09:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA29706 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 08:09:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4TcM-00038TC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 08:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Grosso Subject: Re: Who's fault ? Pine ? Mine ? Yours ? Date: 17 Sep 1996 15:39:52 GMT Message-Id: <51mgo8$gv@news.wco.com> References: <51jtkk$7pp@news.wco.com> <323E2AF8.728E@OurWeb.com> <51lbjc$klv@news.wco.com> <323EAD4E.5813@OurWeb.com> Not you Pete, the original poster, who couldn't figure out why he was having certain problems that we aren't. He was telnetting in from out of state. - Paul In wco.general Pete Childress wrote: : Um, I don't think I left anything out... merely said I think the proxy at : work slows it down. I don't allow my users modem connections (for security : reasons), and I don't do it myself, to set the example. : -Pete : Paul Grosso wrote: : > : > Geeze, you kind of left some important information out of the mix, didn't : > you? Yeah, the shell account is pretty slow when you telnet in from : > somewhere else. I do this on a pretty regular basis from my work in the : > East Bay and there are long delays - all you need to do is dial in direct : > and you'll see that the problems are the connection getting to WCO - not : > WCO. : > : > - Paul : > : > --------------------------- : > Paul Grosso : > paulg@wco.com : > http://www.wco.com/~paulg/ : > : > In wco.general Pete Childress wrote: : > : > : Paul Grosso wrote: : > : > : > : > In wco.general Clint Danbury wrote: : > : > : > : > : I'm using telnet, and so I have become accustomed to the cursor not : > : > : responding to my keystrokes. I have also become accustomed to waiting for : > : > : actions to occur; frequently 30-to-90 seconds or so. : > : > : > : > You're using Pine to post to the usenet? Try using tin - the right : > : > program for the right job. Chances are you lost connection with the : > : > newsserver if you took a long time to make a post but knowing what the : > : > error message was would help - a whole lot. Trying to figure out the : > : > answer to a problem when the only clue is "It didn't work" is not that : > : > easy. : > : > : > : > Also - it's very rare that the response time using my shell account is : > : > that delayed. It happens now and then for a few seconds but not 30-90 : > : > seconds. If you're looking for a place to lay blame, it sounds like : > : > something is wrong with the configuration of your comm program, modem : > : > settings or port configuration. I don't think those LONG delays are a : > : > regular thing. Is anyone else having those sort of problems? : > : > : > : > - Paul : > : > : > : > ---------------- : > : > Paul Grosso : > : > Paulg@wco.com : > : > http://www.wco.com/~paulg/ : > : > : Only when I telnet to shell.wco.com from work through the proxy... Delays are both : > : noticeable and annoying, but it's more the proxy's fault than wco's... : > : > : -Pete From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27870; Sat, 21 Sep 96 13:04:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA03824 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:01:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.edu (ursa.calvin.edu [153.106.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA03819 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:01:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (cmoore29@localhost) by calvin.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA11467; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 16:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 16:00:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Coleman Moore X-Sender: cmoore29@ursa To: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printer command Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you could please help or tell me who to talk to. I cannot get my HP Deskjet 660Cse printer to communicate with Pine. It is hook up to LPT1 and that seems to function as "name", but none of the "command" instructions I have tried work. Coleman Moore From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31275; Sat, 21 Sep 96 13:17:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA24269 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:15:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA24264 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:15:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4YO5-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 13:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Subject: Re: Problem with 'personal name'. Date: 21 Sep 1996 19:55:56 GMT Message-Id: <521h8c$jks@news.asu.edu> References: : Hello all, : : When I want to post a message to a newsgroup I use my personal name : which is butterfly. Usually (with the old version of pine), upon posting, : what others see when they look at my message in the index is my personal : name and the subject of the message. This time, after posting, my : personal name did not appear. Instead, it said, "To: 'newsgroup name'" : and the subject. This is actually only within pine. Your actual message shows up with "butterfly." What you are seeing is a new feature allowing you to easily identify messages you have sent. The idea is that you want to know where you sent your messages. -- Adam Myrow From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17174; Sat, 21 Sep 96 13:21:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA04030 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:20:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA04025 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:20:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4YVR-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 13:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@poseidon.physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: Forwarding to a WWW-Page? Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 11:32:13 -0400 Message-Id: <5212jq$vk@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <32382108.41C6@uni-hohenheim.de> <519v3o$8ql@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> William Burrow wrote: > Yes, the famous Unix (or any system running sendmail, really) .foward > file will do this and more for you. If, for example, you wanted to run a > program that pages you whenever you receive, mail, you can get the > .forward file to do this for you as well. > > Unfortunately, I forget the syntax used in the .forward file for more > complex actions, and I cannot find this info with a couple hours > searching for it. try "|command" as a .forward file. Command should better be the full path of the command/program/script you want to execute. Now you need some script that extracts the information from the incoming mail and accesses the site via a http connection, freeding it with the relevant information in a format it expects. -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26642; Sat, 21 Sep 96 14:12:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA24883 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:10:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA24878 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:10:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4ZIr-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 14:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: PINE Date: 17 Sep 1996 13:58:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: <51kum3$1ic@rain.psg.com> <51mha3$7v5@news.ececs.uc.edu> yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) writes: >In article <51kum3$1ic@rain.psg.com>, > brobbins@mc6adm.uwaterloo.ca (Barb Robbins) writes: >> I am using PINE at my workplace (University of Waterloo) and haven't >> quite figured out how to access my mailbox from my home. Can anyone >> help? I am fairly computer ILLITERATE so be kind! > >If you use PC at home, use PC-Pine. > >If you use Macintosh, MailDrop probably does it. The alpha version works >very well on my Q650 and 6100/66 machines. I don't like the 1.1 for lack >of features. You could also just telnet in to your work host and run pine on the host. Ask your sys admins what host to telnet into and to recommend a good telnet client for your system. I'm assuming that you have a PPP connection - is that true? Good luck, Nancy (posted and mailed) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01107; Sat, 21 Sep 96 15:59:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA05772 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:55:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA05767 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:55:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4aww-00038TC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 15:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: Vi and Pine Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:37:15 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > > lot, but I hate Pico and hate having to learn a lot of new and awkward > > commands just to edit my address-book and headers and so on. I know the two I'm talking about these, not the composer's editor. If I had do use Pico for every aspect of Pine, I wouldn't be using it at all. Harry On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Matt Chatterley wrote: > On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:28:53 -0700 > > From: Harry Slaughter > > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > > Subject: Vi and Pine > > > > Is there any chance that the next version of Pine will allow me to use vi > > commands when editing headers and other things within Pine? I like Pine a > > lot, but I hate Pico and hate having to learn a lot of new and awkward > > commands just to edit my address-book and headers and so on. I know the two > > are closely related, but couldn't they take into consideration those who > > prefer other editors? > > Switch on the "use-alternate-editor" option, and put vi in the slot for > "alternate-editor" down the bottom of the config screen? :) > > > Just wonderin' -- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) =====ooO====U====Ooo========================= Harry Slaughter @Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: .oO() ---> http://ultra.infoseek.com ( ) ()Oo. =======\ (====( )========================== \_) ) / (_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21208; Sat, 21 Sep 96 17:29:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA27008 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:25:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA27003 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:25:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4cIN-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 17:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi Subject: Signature Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:12:51 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Some information.....I'm trying to put the automatic signature using pine. The signature appears on the top of my email message and when I uses the function "reply" it usually happens that I have the signature on top and the letter is on the bottom. QUESTION: when I reply a message, how can I do to have my signature at the bottom of the old letter?? Thanks to everybody for reading. Enrico ********************************************************************** *** ** Enrico Degli Esposti Elisi *** E-mail: edeelisi@peabody.jhu.edu ** ***************************** *** ** Peabody Conservatory of Music *** Phone: (410) 837-7982 ** Campus Box #149 *** ** 606 St. Paul Street *** *** ** 21202-2355 Baltimore *** ** Maryland - U.S.A. *** ******* *** ** ***** *** *** ***** ** ********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01271; Sat, 21 Sep 96 17:44:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA06997 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:40:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA06991 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:40:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4cX8-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 17:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cml@compusmart.ab.ca Subject: INTERNET & INTRA-NET MAIL ON 1 ISP ADDRESS Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:45:26 GMT Message-Id: <3240355f.0@ntnews.compusmart.ab.ca> Anyone out there ever find any useful software that will allow for multiple mailboxes on one ISP address, that will sort and deliver the mail on an Intra-net (MS, Novell, etc) to the various users mailboxes and allow for their replies via one "server" connection to the internet. We have been looking for software that will allow us to have only one ISP address but have multiple users within our company that access the net regularly to send or receive e-mail. The problem that we have found is that whoever gets the mail first, presently gets all the mail for all users in the company bvecause we only have one ISP address. We found a program called Cmail pput out by a coimpany in the UK but have nothing but trouble getting it set up. Is there any other programs ou there like Cmail and if so, where are they? Please e-mail all replies to this article to: cml@compusmart.ab.ca Brad M. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00500; Sat, 21 Sep 96 18:13:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA07335 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA07330 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:10:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4d2i-00038TC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 18:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Pine with new DG-Intel Date: 17 Sep 1996 17:46:18 GMT Message-Id: <51mo5a$jim@test-sun.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't seem to make pine work with DG's new Aviion 3000, does anyone know if it will work, or what I have to compile it as? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30483; Sat, 21 Sep 96 18:14:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA27468 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:10:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA27463 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:10:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4d2i-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 18:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cain@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Subject: Re: alternate editor command Date: 17 Sep 1996 22:42:36 GMT Message-Id: <51n9gs$13v@news.fsu.edu> References: <51jnv3$hmt@news.fsu.edu> In article zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) writes: >Checking "enable-alternate-editor-cmd" just allows you to use an alternate >editor if you press Ctrl-space. You need to check >enable-alternate-editor-implicitly for it to always kick in. > All seems to be working ok now. Instead of Ctrl-space it seems to like the Control-shift _ (underline) to invoke the editor. It is neat in that I find that while using Pico I can copy text from another window (either xwindow on the Sun or some editor window on a Pentium) into a message, whereas this is not possible using emacs. I can then use emacs, which I am more familiar with, to do the actual editing. I tried but did not like using the implicitly option for this reason. ________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Cain cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02916; Sat, 21 Sep 96 19:03:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28030 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:00:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28025 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:00:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4doa-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 18:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: How do you set the return address? Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:45:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Bruce G Cornelius wrote: > Thanks for your advice, Nathan, but I tried that four different ways and > couldn't get it to work. The best it would do is come up as "Reply:" on > the rich text header. I tried the following: > Reply to: > Replyto: > Replyto: Bruce Cornelius > Replyto: > The first one should have worked but it just gave me the "Reply" under > the rich text and it never showed up on messages. I am using PINE > 3.91, and it's on another acccount. AARRGGH Reply to: Bruce Cornelius try that one :-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22240; Sat, 21 Sep 96 19:43:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28510 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:40:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28505 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:40:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4eRC-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 19:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cain@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Subject: cmsg cancel <51m0g5$48u@news.fsu.edu> Control: cancel <51m0g5$48u@news.fsu.edu> Date: 17 Sep 1996 22:43:13 GMT Message-Id: <51n9i1$142@news.fsu.edu> References: <51lvkk$3ja@news.fsu.edu> <51m0g5$48u@news.fsu.edu> <51m0g5$48u@news.fsu.edu> was cancelled from within rn. ________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Cain cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03770; Sat, 21 Sep 96 19:59:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA08553 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:55:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA08547 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:55:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4eeI-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 19:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine hangs (was Re: Version 3.95 Buggy?) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:03:18 -0700 Message-Id: References: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> <51re9h$gnb@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51re9h$gnb@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> On 19 Sep 1996, Tony Fitzgerald wrote: > The problem that we are observing appears to happen to only one specific > account but has happened at least twice in the past month. The account > appears to get a pine session into a hung state (presumably some sort of > kernel block because a kill -9 will not get rid of the process.) This > occurs with PINE3.95 running under Solaris 2.5. Once this account gets > into the hung state, subsequent login attempts also hang (/bin/mail -E > is run during login to check for new mail and that process also hangs > and can not be killed.) At this time, the account has two immortal pine > processes and about a dozen /bin/mail processes and it seems only a > system re-boot will solve the problem.) This problem sounds like a lockd failure on an NFS mounted filesystem. Would that be possible? If so, check the health of rpc.lockd on the server... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03730; Sat, 21 Sep 96 20:49:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA29251 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:46:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA29246 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:45:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4fQh-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 20:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine hangs (was Re: Version 3.95 Buggy?) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:38:25 -0700 Message-Id: References: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> <51re9h$gnb@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51re9h$gnb@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> On 19 Sep 1996, Tony Fitzgerald wrote: > The problem that we are observing appears to happen to only one specific > account but has happened at least twice in the past month. The account > appears to get a pine session into a hung state (presumably some sort of > kernel block because a kill -9 will not get rid of the process.) This > occurs with PINE3.95 running under Solaris 2.5. Once this account gets > into the hung state, subsequent login attempts also hang (/bin/mail -E > is run during login to check for new mail and that process also hangs > and can not be killed.) At this time, the account has two immortal pine > processes and about a dozen /bin/mail processes and it seems only a > system re-boot will solve the problem.) If "kill -9" won't kill it, then it's not a Pine bug, it's an operating system bug which Pine is inadvertantly tickling (we don't try to tickle OS bugs!!!). I'm not terribly surprised that Solaris has other OS bugs, if it has a bug that hangs the whole system because a user program does a zero-byte read(). I'll leave it up to your own judgement whether you really want to run an OS that has that kind of egregious bugs. We don't run Solaris much around here, and so I'm making an educated guess here. By any chance, are any of these mail files accessed via NFS? If so, you may be bit by a well-known bug with the fcntl() locking call; when locking over NFS, it invokes a pair of daemons called statd and lockd that are very fragile. Supposedly, the code in 3.95 disables fcntl() locking if NFS is involved, but Solaris 2.5 may have cleverly broken the test that it used for NFS. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02146; Sat, 21 Sep 96 21:40:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA09791 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:36:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA09786 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:36:36 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 22 Sep 96 12:41:42 +0800 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:33:16 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi wrote: > Hi! Some information.....I'm trying to put the automatic signature using > pine. The signature appears on the top of my email message and when I > uses the function "reply" it usually happens that I have the signature on > top and the letter is on the bottom. > > QUESTION: when I reply a message, how can I do to have my signature at > the bottom of the old letter?? INFORMATION: From the M(ain) meun go to S(etup), C(onfig). Look over all the various options that pine has waiting for you to use. ANSWER: While performing "information research" find" [ ] signature-at-bottom Put an X between the brackets. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 22:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23506; Sat, 21 Sep 96 22:27:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA00376 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 22:21:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from essex.UCHSC.edu (essex.UCHSC.EDU [140.226.1.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA00371 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 22:21:18 -0700 Received: (from hoeppner@localhost) by essex.UCHSC.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA06825; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:27:10 -0600 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:27:09 -0600 (MDT) From: ret To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help!! I seem to be stuck with the pine system. Can send messages, (i think), but cant receive them. any suggestions? Also,,, is it possible for me to upgrade system by myself, or must I contact UofColorado for that? Thanks for your help. Margaret Hoeppner From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05198; Sat, 21 Sep 96 23:09:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA10666 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:06:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA10661 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:06:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4hca-00038TC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 23:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyhsu@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USER) Subject: How to config character different from US-Ascii??? Date: 18 Sep 1996 08:03:24 GMT Message-Id: <51oacc$sbq@voyager.iii.org.tw> I get a lot of Chinese mail. From time to time, I get messages saying the e-mail is using iso-8859-1 character set, and my display is US-ASCII character set. The message is garbled. Any way to fix this problem? Thanks. Jun-ming Chen jmchen@enlighting.com.tw From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05418; Sat, 21 Sep 96 23:09:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA00807 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:06:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA00802 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:06:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4hcQ-00038BC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 23:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Mime Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:46:17 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199609180941.FAA07730@tiger.towson.edu> On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Douglas Rockwell wrote: > Do you happen to know what Pine needs to make it able to process Mime > attachments? > > Whenever I try to process a Mime attachment, it fails, saying something > about 'metamail' Unfortunately, I am not sure just what you mean by "process a Mime attachment." Do you mean when you try to make an attachment to a piece of outgoing mail, or when you receive something that is coming in that already has an attachment? I have heard the term 'metamail', but I know nothing about it, so I cannot give you help there. Perhaps someone else on the newsgroup will know. Also, as a rule of thumb, when you request help with a failure, you need to provide as much diagnostic information as you can (better too much than not enough). Many people ask, "My car's making a funny noise. How do I fix it?" Probably not the best mechanic in the world can answer an open-ended question like that. What version of Pine are you running? On what version of what operating system? How are things configured? What is the *exact* error message? At precisely what point in the process does the error message occur? The more information you provide, the more likely it is that somebody, somewhere, will be able to help. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06248; Sun, 22 Sep 96 01:33:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA02165 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:30:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA02160 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:30:07 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 22 Sep 96 16:35:21 +0800 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 16:26:52 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mime In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Douglas Rockwell wrote: > > > Do you happen to know what Pine needs to make it able to process Mime > > attachments? > > > > Whenever I try to process a Mime attachment, it fails, saying something > > about 'metamail' > > Unfortunately, I am not sure just what you mean by "process a Mime > attachment." Do you mean when you try to make an attachment to a piece > of outgoing mail, or when you receive something that is coming in that > already has an attachment? I have heard the term 'metamail', but I > know nothing about it, so I cannot give you help there. Perhaps > someone else on the newsgroup will know. metamail was written by one of the authors, Nathaniel Borenstein, of the original MIME RFC. It contains a groups of utilities which assist in the composition and rendering of MIME messages. Chances are that Douglas has in his home directory a file called .mailcap. This file, which pine accesses, will instrust clients (like pine) how to render specific MIME types. So, if you'd want to use metamail to render the message then you need to install metamail on your system. > Also, as a rule of thumb, when you request help with a failure, you > need to provide as much diagnostic information as you can (better too > much than not enough). Many people ask, "My car's making a funny > noise. How do I fix it?" Probably not the best mechanic in the world > can answer an open-ended question like that. What version of Pine are > you running? On what version of what operating system? How are things > configured? What is the *exact* error message? At precisely what > point in the process does the error message occur? The more > information you provide, the more likely it is that somebody, > somewhere, will be able to help. I second that motion! Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07404; Sun, 22 Sep 96 03:20:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA13148 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:16:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA13143 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:16:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4lWT-00038TC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 03:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: change@nas.com (Kingsley G. Morse Jr.) Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <521i7q$o4b@cleese.nas.com> Control: cancel <521i7q$o4b@cleese.nas.com> Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06242; Sun, 22 Sep 96 03:42:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA13338 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:36:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA13333 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:36:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4lrV-00038UC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 03:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <521fud$rt2@due.unit.no> Control: cancel <521fud$rt2@due.unit.no> Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07460; Sun, 22 Sep 96 03:42:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA03377 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:36:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA03372 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:36:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4lr0-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 03:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06405; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:24:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA13882 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:17:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA13877 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:16:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4mTC-00038XC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Vi and Pine Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 22:28:53 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any chance that the next version of Pine will allow me to use vi commands when editing headers and other things within Pine? I like Pine a lot, but I hate Pico and hate having to learn a lot of new and awkward commands just to edit my address-book and headers and so on. I know the two are closely related, but couldn't they take into consideration those who prefer other editors? Just wonderin' -- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: http://ultra.infoseek.com ============================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07889; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:24:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA03892 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:16:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA03887 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:16:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4mTB-00038WC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Install Pine Date: 18 Sep 1996 18:19:10 GMT Message-Id: <51peeu$3cs@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <51p7kh$lhh@pegasus.interpac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <51p7kh$lhh@pegasus.interpac.net>, jchen@taro.poi.net (jchen ) writes: > Where can I get some information on installing pine on a unix > system? > > Can I just install it on my own dir? Or does it have to be intall by > the system admin? Pine web page starts at: http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ that should be sufficient for you. No, you do not need to install Pine system-wide. Any user can do his/ her own, as long as you have enough disk space, plus your platform is covered, or you have c compiler. On SGI, Pine 3.95 takes about 500k disk space. Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07416; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:24:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA13875 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:16:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA13870 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:16:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4mT9-00038VC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scabby Subject: hiding To: addresses Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:08:20 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I created a list in addressbook, but every time I use it it shows all the addresses on the list so the receiver has to scroll through the other names to get to the body of the message. Is there a way to hide that? === Rob From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05554; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:25:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA03885 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:16:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA03880 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:16:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4mT9-00038UC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hardy@alpha1.phoenix.net (Chris Hardy) Subject: Web-Calendar Date: 18 Sep 1996 16:38:28 GMT Message-Id: <51p8i4$16o@uhura.phoenix.net> We would like to invite anyone interested in beta testing Web-Calendar. No charge its free. No special server or database. If a 4th grader can publish a web calendar you sure can. thanks -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04663; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:28:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA03947 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:21:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA03942 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:21:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4mZQ-00038UC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 04:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 05:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07932; Sun, 22 Sep 96 05:58:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA14815 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 05:52:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA14810 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 05:52:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4nyu-00038UC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 05:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <521h8c$jks@news.asu.edu> Control: cancel <521h8c$jks@news.asu.edu> Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08114; Sun, 22 Sep 96 06:38:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA05218 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:32:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from peabody.jhu.edu (gigue.peabody.jhu.edu [128.220.102.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA05213 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:32:20 -0700 Received: by peabody.jhu.edu; Sun, 22 Sep 96 09:32:17 EDT Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:32:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > QUESTION: when I reply a message, how can I do to have my signature at > > the bottom of the old letter?? > > INFORMATION: From the M(ain) meun go to S(etup), C(onfig). Look > over all the various options that pine has waiting for you to use. > > ANSWER: While performing "information research" find" > [ ] signature-at-bottom > Put an X between the brackets. It was so easy.....THANKS a lot! Enrico > ********************************************************************** *** ** Enrico Degli Esposti Elisi *** E-mail: edeelisi@peabody.jhu.edu ** ***************************** *** ** Peabody Conservatory of Music *** Phone: (410) 837-7982 ** Campus Box #149 *** ** 606 St. Paul Street *** *** ** 21202-2355 Baltimore *** ** Maryland - U.S.A. *** ******* *** ** ***** *** *** ***** ** ********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08518; Sun, 22 Sep 96 06:53:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA15349 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:46:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA15344 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:46:49 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 22 Sep 96 21:52:02 +0800 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 21:43:34 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Scabby Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: hiding To: addresses In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Scabby wrote: > I created a list in addressbook, but every time I use it it shows all the > addresses on the list so the receiver has to scroll through the other > names to get to the body of the message. Is there a way to hide that? > You are using pine 3.91. Upgrade to 3.95, go to the rich headers, use LCC. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08818; Sun, 22 Sep 96 07:33:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA05726 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:22:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA05721 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:22:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4pMM-00038TC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 07:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08899; Sun, 22 Sep 96 07:39:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA15756 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:32:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA15751 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:32:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4pVu-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 07:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Printing from Pine 3.93 Date: 22 Sep 1996 14:26:01 GMT Message-Id: <523i9p$cp4@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Jago wrote: > >Isn't there a way to change the printing location for Pine 3.93? I went >into Setup/Config and didn't see an option to change the location. Does >this have to be configured on the PCs and Macs? Any information would >be deeply appreciated. Thanks for reading. You want to look at Setup/Printer, not Setup/Config. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 08:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09422; Sun, 22 Sep 96 08:45:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA06528 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 08:42:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA06523 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 08:42:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4qeM-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 08:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lindae@mlode.com (Linda Emerson) Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08997; Sun, 22 Sep 96 09:21:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA16841 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:17:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA16836 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:17:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4rAd-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 09:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pseelig@dialin33.zdv.uni-mainz.de (Paul Seelig) Subject: Re: porting 3.95 to Linux Date: 17 Sep 1996 16:37:21 GMT Message-Id: <51mk41$1ij@dialin33.zdv.uni-mainz.de> References: <51bp7b$ci0@tick.cs.wm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [Posted and mailed] > Has anybody successfully ported Pine 3.95 to Linux ? > Yes and no! When i was using a Slackware based system it compiled out of the box with gcc-2.6.3. But after having switched to Debian-1.1.6 since almost two weeks i can't compile it no more. But this is due to the fact that Pine relies on termcap which is not supported by Debian no more. The Debian source package of Pine-3.94 is modified to use ncurses instead and compiles just fine. Being no programmer i don't feel capable of changing the original Pine-3.95 sources to compile properly in the Debian Linux environment. Hopefully some kind soul will supply us with a Pine-3.95.deb package some time. I'll be using Pine-3.94 in the meantime... > I've been having a bit of trouble with that... > I cannot create the c-client.a library since > I'm getting compilation errors in the os dependent > code. > Well, you are not very informative here. What Linux are you using? What kind of distribution, which kernel version and which compiler version? Regards, P. Seelig *8^) -- Paul Seelig pseelig@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09172; Sun, 22 Sep 96 09:22:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA06968 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:17:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA06963 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:17:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4rAm-00038TC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 09:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pseelig@dialin33.zdv.uni-mainz.de (Paul Seelig) Subject: Re: Version 3.95 Buggy? Date: 17 Sep 1996 16:40:20 GMT Message-Id: <51mk9k$1ij@dialin33.zdv.uni-mainz.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [Posted and mailed] > Has anyone had bug > problems with 3.95? Thanks. > I had some inconsistencies in the behaviour of Pine-3.94 which were resolved by upgrading to the 3.95 release. This was supposed to be a bugfix for 3.94! Regards, P. Seelig -- Paul Seelig pseelig@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25378; Sun, 22 Sep 96 09:40:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA17111 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:37:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA17106 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:37:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4rU3-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 09:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Henor Hysa Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30349; Sun, 22 Sep 96 09:57:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA07394 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:52:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA07389 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:52:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4rhQ-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 09:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03712; Sun, 22 Sep 96 10:30:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA17672 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:27:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA17667 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:27:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4sIX-00038TC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 10:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@zone.jcm.com ("John C. Musselman") Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13713; Sun, 22 Sep 96 17:35:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA12704 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:28:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA12699 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:28:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4ysr-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 17:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Vi and Pine Date: 18 Sep 1996 18:04:53 -0400 Message-Id: References: Harry Slaughter writes: >Is there any chance that the next version of Pine will allow me to use vi >commands when editing headers and other things within Pine? Yes, yes, yes, this would be great! I'm always typing jjj to try to move up into the headers and then dd to try to delete a line. -Nancy vi-is-hard-wired-into-my-fingers McGough -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14064; Sun, 22 Sep 96 17:39:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA22556 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:33:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA22551 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:33:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v4yum-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 17:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@poseidon.physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <5212jq$vk@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Control: cancel <5212jq$vk@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Message-Id: These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13577; Sun, 22 Sep 96 18:16:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA13196 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:11:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from graf.cc.emory.edu (graf.cc.emory.edu [170.140.1.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA13191 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:11:15 -0700 Received: from larry.cc.emory.edu (larry.cc.emory.edu [170.140.1.65]) by graf.cc.emory.edu (8.7.3/8.6.9-950630.01osg-itd.null) with SMTP id VAA09872 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 21:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 21:11:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Carly Elizabeth Hamlett X-Sender: chaml01@larry.cc.emory.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: attachment troubles Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whomever can help me, I received an email with an attachment that I cannot read. I did as the directions suggested and saved them as files but cannot access those files (i.e. cannot even find them now). If you could send me any information, I would greatly appreciate it. Carly Hamlett chamL01@emory.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14610; Sun, 22 Sep 96 19:24:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA14046 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:18:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA14041 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:18:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v50YF-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 19:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Printing from Pine 3.93 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:47:00 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199609221425.QAA17843@lie.matstat.unit.no> <199609222021.WAA18289@lie.matstat.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199609222021.WAA18289@lie.matstat.unit.no> On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > [Posted and mailed] > > In article , > Jago wrote: > > > >Uh oh. I didn't see Printer in 3.93. Are you sure it's in that version, > >or is it in 3.95? > > >From the release notes this appears to have been added in 3.92. > Are you starting the right version - you seem to be using 3.91? I use 3.91 on this account, but the version in questions is the one my other account. That version is 3.93, and I don't see a Printer option. When I press 'S' from the main menu, all I see at the bottom are the following: Help Newpassword Update Cancel Config Signature That's all I see. Option 'Printer' does not appear. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s - MIDI, Humor, KI2, etc. } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15251; Sun, 22 Sep 96 19:54:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA14444 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:48:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA14439 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:48:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5127-00038BC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 19:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: additional page is printed with each printed message Date: 23 Sep 1996 00:23:13 GMT Message-Id: <524l9h$4um@dns.ktb.net> References: Christoph Spoerri (cs7@acpub.duke.edu) wrote: | I have a problem printing with pine. Pine itself runs on a UNIX machine, | to which I connect from a PC. The PC is on a network and therefore prints | to a network printer. Now, whenever one of the PCs on the network print | from pine, an additional page come after each printed e-mail/message. On | each page there are always the same three characters. | Does any body have an idea where the bug could be? By the way this thing | just recently started happening, after upgrading the network to LANWork 5. My guess -- and that's all it is -- is that it has nothing to do with pine, but is part of the printer configuration -- either yours, or the general configuration file. Ask your local network sysadmin. Bev bashley@ktb.net **************************************************************** "Make it work? I can make it stand up and spit in your pocket!" -- A. Ashley From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15330; Sun, 22 Sep 96 22:11:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA26097 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:08:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cc.joensuu.fi (cc.joensuu.fi [193.167.41.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA26092 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:08:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (jmakkon@localhost) by cc.joensuu.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA04452 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:10:02 +0300 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:10:02 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jaana Reply-To: Jaana To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: sent-mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! I don't have sent-mail folder in my Pine. I must have deleted it or can I still find it somewhere? I'd like to have it but I don't find it in my folders. It should be there, right? Could a new one be created? Jaana from Finland From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16198; Sun, 22 Sep 96 22:47:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA16911 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:44:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dub-img-1.compuserve.com (dub-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.206.131]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA16906 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:43:59 -0700 Received: by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id BAA14795; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:43:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 21:34:46 -0400 From: TIFFANY ENNIS Subject: how do i connect?? To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Message-Id: <199609230143_MC1-9AF-E2D0@compuserve.com> i have wow and i cant seem to be able to figure out how to connect to the irc freeware From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17173; Sun, 22 Sep 96 23:24:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA27026 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:21:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com (mailhost1.primenet.com [206.165.5.51]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id XAA27021 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:21:47 -0700 Received: from primenet.com (angell@usr02.primenet.com [206.165.5.102]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA14824 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:21:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (angell@localhost) by primenet.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id XAA29179 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:21:45 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 02:21:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine command in newsgroup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to know if there is a way to delete newsgroup entries in bulk. That is, currently each entry must be marked with a D and then X to exclude it. With 1,000's of entries, this can be quite time consuming. I want to know if entries can be deleted by the date of entry, etc, and if so, HOW? Any help is appreciated, as I have read the help screens and found nothing pertaining to this. Thanks in advance. Angel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- angell __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ angell@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14796; Sun, 22 Sep 96 23:27:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA27059 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:24:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA27054 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:24:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v54Qo-00038TC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 23:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Oldfield Subject: [Q] Pine folders -> Eudora folders Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:39:13 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to "give" a number of email folders to someone else. I am using PC-Pine 3.95 and he is using Eudora (1.5 ?). Is there a way I can convert my pine folders so that Eudora will read them ? Please reply by email to S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au Thanks in advance Simon Oldfield _____________________________________________________________________ Simon Oldfield Email: S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au CSC Australia Phone: +61-6-262-1128 A Unit of Computer Sciences Corporation Fax: +61-6-273-2116 _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16046; Sun, 22 Sep 96 23:47:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA17637 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:44:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA17632 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:44:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v54gR-00038TC; Sun, 22 Sep 96 23:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Interface gaff Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:36:24 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just noticed (the hard way) that if you accidentally hold down the "y" key in various places in the pine program you can end up with many, many copies of a particular e-mail message being dumped to the printer. Having the same key used to trigger printing as to answer yes to the ensuing "Print to ...?" check seems to defeat the purpose of having a check in the first place. If there is a user interface redesign, may I suggest that you consider reserving the "y" key for answering yes to the various "Are you sure?" questions, and find some other key for printing? Ian Ollmann From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 00:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12328; Mon, 23 Sep 96 00:11:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA27509 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 00:04:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA27504 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 00:04:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v550X-00038TC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 00:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Subject: minor problem Date: 23 Sep 1996 05:51:28 GMT Message-Id: <5258h0$p4k@news.asu.edu> I upgraded to pine 3.95 and now instead of the status message saying "folder "INBOX" opened with N messages," it now says "sorting "INBOX" 100%." This is extremely minor but I was wondering if this was deliberate. I am using the pre-compiled binary for Solaris. -- Adam Myrow From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17890; Mon, 23 Sep 96 01:23:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA28280 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:19:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA28275 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:19:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v56ET-00038VC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 01:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: cancel Date: 16 Sep 1996 19:13:02 GMT Message-Id: <51k8ru$o26@due.unit.no> References: In article , Linda Emerson wrote: >Can someone explain why these "cancellation" messages are appearing? Is >there some way to cancel a message after you've sent it? Certainly, although pine doesn't have special support for it, like many other newsreaders do. (I use trn, which does.) There are two kinds of cancels, an ordinary cancel which removes your message, and a supersede which replaces it with a new message. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16979; Mon, 23 Sep 96 01:24:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA18608 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:19:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA18603 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:19:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v56Ac-00038TC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 01:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eubrafo@origo.bahnhof.se (Rabbe Fogelholm) Subject: Re: How do you set the return address? Date: 23 Sep 1996 08:05:20 GMT Message-Id: <525gc0$rq1@Steinlager.tip.net> References: <51sqa2$1jv@epx.cis.umn.edu> : On 20 Sep 1996, Bruce G Cornelius wrote: : : > Could someone tell me how to set the return address on Pine to be : > different from the e-mail address from which I'm sending, but without : > changing this configuration for anything else? Nathan Richards (nathan@phish.nether.net) wrote: : You have to have Pine 3.91 or ablove in order to do this. : : Go to Setup, Config : Cursor down to Customized-Headers and press A to add one. : type Reply to: and press enter : press E to exit out of there and quit Pine. This explains how to customize the "Reply-to:" header. Would it also be possible to customize the "From:" header, or is that outside the scope of a mail client? The reason that I am asking is this: At our site we have platform-independent addresses on our business cards (Firstname.Lastname@Domain), but the From: header that Pine inserts looks more like "Firstname Lastname" , which has caused people to ask me which address to really use when responding. Rabbe Fogelholm, Ellemtel, Stockholm, Sweden From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16294; Mon, 23 Sep 96 01:24:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA18615 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:19:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA18610 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 01:19:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v56EU-00038WC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 01:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Wrong From record (as you see) ;-) Can someone help me? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:24:33 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well as you see in From record where shold be my name ther is a "to:comp.mail.pine" . What should i change in .pinerc to correct post the article to newsgroups ? BTW I upgrade from 3.93 to 3.95 and problems begun :( Please replay to me directly. Robert Duic WIMAL International Phone: (48 22) 47-94-62 Fax: (48 22) 47-94-22 E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19396; Mon, 23 Sep 96 03:24:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA29477 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:18:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from raj.raj.nic.in (raj.nic.in [164.100.153.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA29472 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:18:43 -0700 From: dagur@raj.raj.nic.in Received: from raj.raj.nic.in by raj.raj.nic.in; Mon, 23 Sep 96 15:44 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:44:23 -0430 (GMT) >From: raj.raj.nic.in!dagur (dagur) X-Sender: dagur@raj.nic.in To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Dagur@raj.raj.nic.in (Ramvir Singh Dagur) Subject: Problem in attachment to a file. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-843509663=:11824" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-843509663=:11824 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sir, I am Unix pine user. If I am using attachment option for sending my any of ASCII file, then pine is converting it to Mime format, so receipent is unable to get my orginal file. And if I am using insert option to sent the same file, the receipent is getting the orginal file, I am sending the same file to you with both options. kindly reply me with the solution. Thanks and Regards. R.S.DAGUR This is a attach message . on 23-09-96. That day I got your phone after long back, actually I was expacting your call on 11th but any way you was not well that day.Now you tell me about Sonu. She got a major opration or a minor opration and now what is the satuation, she is feeling well, we hope for early recovery for the same. Now you tell me about that day (25th jan). I am sorry for that day.But for future I will keep this thing in mind. Actually I was having wrong confidence about myself and your parents. Basically they were thinking the same for all, Any way we can,t change them. Dagur. ---559023410-851401618-843509663=:11824 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=attac Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: DQogICAgVGhpcyBpcyBhIGF0dGFjaCBtZXNzYWdlIC4gb24gMjMtMDktOTYu DQoNCg0KDQogICAgVGhhdCAgZGF5ICBJICBnb3QgeW91ciBwaG9uZSBhZnRl ciBsb25nIGJhY2ssIGFjdHVhbGx5ICBJICB3YXMNCiAgICBleHBhY3Rpbmcg IHlvdXIgY2FsbCBvbiAxMXRoIGJ1dCBhbnkgd2F5IHlvdSB3YXMgbm90IHdl bGwgdGhhdA0KICAgIGRheS5Ob3cgeW91IHRlbGwgbWUgYWJvdXQgU29udS4g IFNoZSBnb3QgYSBtYWpvciBvcHJhdGlvbiBvciBhDQogICAgbWlub3IgIG9w cmF0aW9uIGFuZCBub3cgd2hhdCBpcyB0aGUgc2F0dWF0aW9uLCBzaGUgaXMg IGZlZWxpbmcNCiAgICB3ZWxsLCB3ZSBob3BlIGZvciBlYXJseSByZWNvdmVy eSBmb3IgdGhlIHNhbWUuDQoNCiAgICBOb3cgIHlvdSAgdGVsbCBtZSBhYm91 dCB0aGF0IGRheSAoMjV0aCBqYW4pLiAgSSBhbSAgc29ycnkgIGZvcg0KICAg IHRoYXQgIGRheS5CdXQgIGZvciAgZnV0dXJlICBJIHdpbGwga2VlcCB0aGlz ICB0aGluZyAgaW4gIG1pbmQuDQogICAgQWN0dWFsbHkgIEkgd2FzIGhhdmlu ZyB3cm9uZyBjb25maWRlbmNlIGFib3V0IG15c2VsZiBhbmQgIHlvdXINCiAg ICBwYXJlbnRzLiAgIEJhc2ljYWxseSB0aGV5IHdlcmUgdGhpbmtpbmcgdGhl IHNhbWUgZm9yIGFsbCwgIEFueQ0KICAgIHdheSB3ZSBjYW4sdCBjaGFuZ2Ug dGhlbS4NCg0KRGFndXIuDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQo= ---559023410-851401618-843509663=:11824-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18924; Mon, 23 Sep 96 03:28:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA19894 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:23:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasmda.vsnl.net.in (giasmda.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.161]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA19889 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:23:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by giasmda.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA27464; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:56:27 +0530 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:56:26 +0530 (IST) From: HEMLATA JAIN X-Sender: hemajain@giasmda To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: send information on internet Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII send directory of motorala book SSSSPSSSSSSSSS CCCC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18478; Mon, 23 Sep 96 03:38:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA29658 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:35:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasmda.vsnl.net.in (giasmda.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA29648 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:35:00 -0700 Received: from localhost by giasmda.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA29846; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:07:38 +0530 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:07:37 +0530 (IST) From: HEMLATA JAIN X-Sender: hemajain@giasmda To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Forwarded mail.... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SSSSPSSSSSSSSS CCCC ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:35:33 +0530 From: "0000-Admin(0000)" Dear customer, Welcome to GIAS Student Server. we hope this facility proves very helpful and exciting. Your e-mail address will be your "loginname@giasmda.vsnl.net.in". The moment you login, you are advised to change your password to the one desired by choosing option number 6 from the menu. Disk space is limited to 500Kbytes. If your disk space requirement exceeds that, you can use the disk space allocated in the directory /home3/tmp But please be advised that this directory will be cleared every midnight (23:59Hrs). So you are urged to download the files to your machine before that. To facilitate mobile users a mobile user telnet facility has been created in our system.The users can avail this facility to login into Students server at Madras,Bombay,Delhi,Calcutta,Bangalore or Pune with login name as guest and password as gias123 and make a connection to the location the user has registered. Our telephone numbers for assistance are : 588584 560093 588652 566740 extn: 4013, 4019, 4026 For any help/assistance, please send an e-mail to : helpdesk@giasmda.vsnl.net.in Your feedback is most welcome. Regards, Helpdesk, Madras From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 07:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21887; Mon, 23 Sep 96 07:41:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA22926 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 07:36:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA22921 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 07:36:13 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME (wpb-fl5-09.ix.netcom.com [205.184.3.137]) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA23119 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 07:36:07 -0700 Message-Id: <3246C89E.6937@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:27:58 -0700 From: Terry X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: irc Help X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00657.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings! I am writing in hopes you can help me out with a biggie...or not. I have been searching the net hi and lo looking for this information. Recently my computer was slapped by a lightening induced blackout and I lost several files. I did not realize a file for mIRC was missing until I tried to use mIRC two days ago. I get an error message...(cannot find ftpcfg.dll). Can you possibly help me to find this library? I am assuming it goes in the system files for windows. Is my computer ignorance showing yet?? I would truly appreciate any help you may offer...I am at a loss as I don't even know what this file is. Thank you in advance, Terry Sizemore-Rahn rickrahn@ix.netcom.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23285; Mon, 23 Sep 96 08:31:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA23787 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:23:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA23781; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:23:44 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA09678; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:23:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:23:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ian Russell Ollmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Interface gaff In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ian, In retrospect, it's clear that using "y" for printing (or anything other than "yes") was a mistake. (I remember the fateful day well... it "seemed like a good idea at the time".) Alas, with so many millions of Pine users now, it is *very* difficult to change key-bindings any more. All I can say is that I'm a lot unhappier about "y" than you are :( -teg On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > I just noticed (the hard way) that if you accidentally hold down the "y" > key in various places in the pine program you can end up with many, many > copies of a particular e-mail message being dumped to the printer. Having > the same key used to trigger printing as to answer yes to the ensuing > "Print to ...?" check seems to defeat the purpose of having a check in the > first place. If there is a user interface redesign, may I suggest that you > consider reserving the "y" key for answering yes to the various "Are you > sure?" questions, and find some other key for printing? > > Ian Ollmann From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23838; Mon, 23 Sep 96 08:58:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA24663 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:55:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vianet.on.ca (gwn.vianet.on.ca [204.187.88.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA24658 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:55:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (carle@localhost) by vianet.on.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26994 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:53:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Carle Brisson X-Sender: carle@gwn To: Pine-Info Subject: Message-ID not working ??? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have pine setup on 4 of our servers, one of which is our main mail host. All works fine on the mail host. On the other servers however, the message-ID is broken... it's always Message-ID: -100000 Anyone have this problem b4? ----------------- -----------------------< V I A - N E T >------------------------- Carle@ViaNet.on.ca ----------------- Systems Administrator Carle Brisson A division of Via Computer & Communications 361 Algonquin Blvd West, Timmins ON Can. P4N 2S3 Ph: 705-268-5021 Fax: 705-264-6277 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24330; Mon, 23 Sep 96 08:59:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA04501 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:55:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA04496 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:55:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5DJU-00038XC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 08:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rhodes@rhodes.es.vt.edu (Tim Rhodes) Subject: Pine 3.95 Hang Date: 23 Sep 1996 14:17:30 GMT Message-Id: <52665q$gj6@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I'm experiencing a intermittent hang when sending mail. Occasionally, When I send mail (from the Unix client on a NeXTstep 3.0 system), I hang at the message Sending 100% for several minutes. After that time, pine returns to the index as expected. I get the impression that it is a file locking bug. Is this a known problem or has someone else solved it? Thanks... -- .. Tim Rhodes ..................... http://rhodes.es.vt.edu/~rhodes .. .. Sr Systems Engineer, Virginia Tech ........... Tim.Rhodes@vt.edu .. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24685; Mon, 23 Sep 96 09:31:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA05541 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:29:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu (admin.aurora.edu [192.203.224.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA05533 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:29:09 -0700 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21679; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:34:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:34:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Subject: Pine 3.95 Hang (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have experienced the same kind of problem but on a OSF/1-DEC Unix version of Pine 3.95. -- Steve Lowe slowe@admin.aurora.edu Aurora University ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 23 Sep 1996 14:17:30 GMT From: Tim Rhodes To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.95 Hang I'm experiencing a intermittent hang when sending mail. Occasionally, When I send mail (from the Unix client on a NeXTstep 3.0 system), I hang at the message Sending 100% for several minutes. After that time, pine returns to the index as expected. I get the impression that it is a file locking bug. Is this a known problem or has someone else solved it? Thanks... -- .. Tim Rhodes ..................... http://rhodes.es.vt.edu/~rhodes .. .. Sr Systems Engineer, Virginia Tech ........... Tim.Rhodes@vt.edu .. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25252; Mon, 23 Sep 96 09:33:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA25760 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:30:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA25755 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:30:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5Dre-00038UC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 09:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine hangs (was Re: Version 3.95 Buggy?) Date: 23 Sep 1996 16:22:24 GMT Message-Id: <526dg0$hfs@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> <51re9h$gnb@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> Mark Crispin writes: >On 19 Sep 1996, Tony Fitzgerald wrote: >> The problem that we are observing appears to happen to only one specific >> account but has happened at least twice in the past month. The account >> appears to get a pine session into a hung state (presumably some sort of >> kernel block because a kill -9 will not get rid of the process.) This >> occurs with PINE3.95 running under Solaris 2.5. Once this account gets >> into the hung state, subsequent login attempts also hang (/bin/mail -E >> is run during login to check for new mail and that process also hangs >> and can not be killed.) At this time, the account has two immortal pine >> processes and about a dozen /bin/mail processes and it seems only a >> system re-boot will solve the problem.) >If "kill -9" won't kill it, then it's not a Pine bug, it's an operating >system bug which Pine is inadvertantly tickling (we don't try to tickle OS >bugs!!!). I'm not terribly surprised that Solaris has other OS bugs, if >it has a bug that hangs the whole system because a user program does a >zero-byte read(). Would you care to tell us which versions of UNIX you are comfortable do not have some serious bugs? >I'll leave it up to your own judgement whether you really want to run an >OS that has that kind of egregious bugs. We don't run Solaris much around >here, and so I'm making an educated guess here. At least Sun publishes bug fixes. You are allowing your anti-Sun anti-Solaris bias to show here. Whether or not you like Sun or Solaris, if you want to offer your software to the world, you need to be aware that Sun Solaris THE dominent commercial UNIX. If you do not recommend that it be run on Solaris, you need to be clear about that. >By any chance, are any of these mail files accessed via NFS? If so, you >may be bit by a well-known bug with the fcntl() locking call; when locking >over NFS, it invokes a pair of daemons called statd and lockd that are >very fragile. >Supposedly, the code in 3.95 disables fcntl() locking if NFS is involved, >but Solaris 2.5 may have cleverly broken the test that it used for NFS. I am not a network expert, but in the past you have failed to take account of some of the special features of the Solaris environment (old header include kluges ~pine 3.91). With Solaris 2.5, Sun has wisely or unwisely gone back to including support for some older BSD interfaces (I think they should have left them out). Could any of those be fooling the tests you are making for fcntl()? It might be helpful if the original poster has access to a Solaris 2.4 machine to config and compile pine on that and see if the binary gives the same problems as his Sol 2.5 binary. >-- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" >DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" >Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26817; Mon, 23 Sep 96 10:43:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA07582 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:40:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA07574 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:40:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5ExD-00038UC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 10:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: Signature Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 00:32:21 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi wrote: > Hi! Some information.....I'm trying to put the automatic signature using > pine. The signature appears on the top of my email message and when I > uses the function "reply" it usually happens that I have the signature on > top and the letter is on the bottom. > > QUESTION: when I reply a message, how can I do to have my signature at > the bottom of the old letter?? When you're in Pine, go to Main Menu --> Setup --> Configurations, and check the box beside the item `Signature-at-bottom'. Hope this helps. J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27392; Mon, 23 Sep 96 11:03:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA08116 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:00:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA08109 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:00:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5F3u-00038UC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 10:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John C. Musselman" Subject: interactive unix- 3.95 Date: 22 Sep 1996 20:24:02 -0700 Message-Id: <524vsi$ab0@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Has anyone compiled 3.95 for isc?If so, please mail me! -- John C. Musselman (JCM2) john@jcm.com voice direct: 602.966.0123 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22394; Mon, 23 Sep 96 11:04:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA28090 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:00:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA28084 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:00:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5F4b-00038VC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 10:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: PuppyCat Subject: bounce Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:22:29 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII excuse the ignorance here.. but what does bounce do? PuppyCat@digimag.net "PuppyCat" http://ocean.st.usm.edu/~agiegler From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11233; Mon, 23 Sep 96 11:05:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA08126 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:00:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA08120 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:00:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5F5U-00038XC; Mon, 23 Sep 96 10:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccam@spiral2.its.latrobe.edu.au (Andrew Moar) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 INBOX folders Date: 23 Sep 1996 05:19:06 GMT Message-Id: <5256ka$npo@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mark Habersack writes: > > I have several Incoming Folders on my system. How do I make Pine report when > a message arrives to any of these folders, and not only when it comes to INBOX > folder? I'd like to know that any of these folders contains messages WITHOUT > having to open them one by one. > I do a similar thing using procmail to do my filtering. To check for incoming mail I use a program that comes with elm (can I say that in comp.mail.pine? :) called newmail, with which you can specify a number of different folders and intervals to check, etc... You should be able to find elm in many places via archie. Regards, Andrew From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27193; Mon, 23 Sep 96 11:24:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA08786 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:21:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs3.facpya.uanl.mx (rs3.facpya.uanl.mx [148.234.45.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA08781 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:21:55 -0700 Received: by rs3.facpya.uanl.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22953; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:21:31 -0600 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:21:31 -0600 (CST) From: Denisse Luna Garza To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help me please... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE =09I have a terrible problem, I'm in Monterrey (M=E9xico) and i want=20 to write to my family in other city of the country, but, I don't know=20 which is the problem, all the messages that send are back, my local=20 support either know what happen and I need to comunicate to my family some things ... what can i do ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23127; Mon, 23 Sep 96 11:51:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA09578 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:48:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dingo (dingo.eng.fsu.edu [128.186.224.39]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA09573 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:48:22 -0700 Received: from localhost by dingo (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA29192; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:48:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:48:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kirk D. Mccoy" X-Sender: mccoy@dingo To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Blind Carbon Copy Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a such thing as BCC? How do I use it? * * ******* ******* ********* ********* *************** Kirk D. McCoy II *************** *************** Mechanical Engineer *************** *************** Senior *************** *************** Florida A&M University *************** *********** Tallahassee, Florida *********** ********* ********* ((__|__)) ((__|__)) (( | )) (( | )) [__|__] "Find Your Destiny and Fulfill It." [__|__] (( | )) (( | )) [__|__] [__|__] [__|__] NCSSM FAMU [__|__] ((|)) '93 '98 ((|)) ((|)) ((|)) (|) *** mccoy@eng.fsu.edu *** (|) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24825; Mon, 23 Sep 96 13:23:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA11620 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:20:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dilbert.uncg.edu (dilbert.uncg.edu [152.13.2.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA11609 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:20:49 -0700 Received: from scruffy.uncg.edu (rjlouden2.uncg.edu [152.13.37.153]) by dilbert.uncg.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07537; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3246F11C.539C@uncg.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:20:44 -0400 From: Rachel Louden Organization: UNC Greensboro X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: rjlouden@uncg.edu, jsthyer@uncg.edu, caryjm@uncg.edu Subject: Windows95 IP Stack and Imap Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello We have recently switched to an IMAP server on one of our UNIX machines. Which is accessed by mulitple platforms -- UNIX, VAX, Win3, Win95, WinNT, and MAC. The new server works fine erverywhere except for on the WIn95 and WinNT machines. With those Operating Systems everytime you mail a message or list a folder, you receive the error [IMAP Connection Broken-No Server Response]. We have done the following to diagnos the problem: We installed Pine 3.92 on both Win3 and Win95 boxes. Everything worked on the Win3 machines but not on the Windows 95 ones. We installed Sun Soltice Mail Client on both Win3 and Win95 boxes with the same results. We snooped the traffic between the client and server of various Pine sessions. Note: We were able to install the 32 bit applications on the Windows 3.1 machines because we have Win32apps installed. We are using the Novell Workplace IP stack on our Win3 machines and the MS TCPIP stack on the Windows 95 ones. These results lead us to believe that there was a problem with the MS TCPIP stack. We are trying to use a DNS name alias to our IMAP server --namely imap.uncg.edu. It looks as though the IP stack is incorrectly caching the information associated with the alias. When a user first starts pine, the client machine sends a querry to the UNIX name server to get the authoritative name and IP number of the IMAP server at login. The login succeeds, but when a user tries to list folders, the client machine fails to recognize that it is already connected to the imap server and logs in a second time. After the folders are listed, the client machine logs out and the broken connection server error is recieved. When we use the authoritative name of the UNIX machine in place of the alias, everything works fine. In case there was a problem with the DHCP server we defined the Windows 95 machine's ip address locally and used the c:\windows\hosts file to point to the imap servers without result. Additionally in order to test things out, we tried to connect the Windows95 machine to an imap server on a VMS machine and everything worked. We called Microsoft Technical support and were told the Microsoft does not support TCPIP connections to UNIX machines and thus they were unable to help us. They said that there is some patch that we can put on our UNIX machine to get in to work though. Does anyone know of any solutions or what that patch might be. Our IMAP server is running Solaris v2.5 and is patched to current. revs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Rachel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00712; Mon, 23 Sep 96 14:50:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA13722 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:44:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA13717 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:44:49 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 24 Sep 96 05:50:03 +0800 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:41:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: PuppyCat Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: bounce In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, PuppyCat wrote: > excuse the ignorance here.. but what does bounce do? Do you mean not knowing enough to read the help menus?? :-) :-) BOUNCE The bounce (B) command allows you to re-send, or "remail", a message, as if you were never in the loop. It is analogous to crossing out your address on a postal letter, writing a different address on the envelope, and putting it into the mailbox. Bounce is used primarily to redirect email which was sent to you in error. Also, some owners of email lists need the bounce command to handle list traffic. The presence or absence of the Bounce command is determined by the "enable-bounce-cmd" feature-list option in your Pine configuration. Note that Bounce may be administratively disabled by your system manager; if it doesn't work, please check with your local help desk before reporting a bug. Directly from the help...... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00465; Mon, 23 Sep 96 14:53:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA04184 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:48:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA04179 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:48:15 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 24 Sep 96 05:53:29 +0800 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:44:59 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Kirk D. Mccoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Kirk D. Mccoy wrote: > Is there a such thing as BCC? Yes. > How do I use it? Sparingly. :-) Actually, with your cursor in the address portion of the screen you type Ctrl-R and the Bcc: header will appear....along with several others. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12877; Mon, 23 Sep 96 14:55:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA13920 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:50:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA13915 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:50:48 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 24 Sep 96 05:56:02 +0800 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:47:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Denisse Luna Garza Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help me please... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Denisse Luna Garza wrote: > =09I have a terrible problem, I'm in Monterrey (M=E9xico) and i want=20 > to write to my family in other city of the country, but, I don't know=20 > which is the problem, all the messages that send are back, my local=20 > support either know what happen and I need to comunicate to my family > some things ... what can i do ? =09Phone home? :-) =09Honestly, you have not given enough information for anyone to divine an answer. What kind of error is shown for your returned mails? =09Details, details, details..... =09Regards, =09=09Ed --=20 Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Comme= rce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section= 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15616; Mon, 23 Sep 96 23:01:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA12882 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 22:55:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA12877 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 22:55:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 23 SEP 96 21:50:52 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:50:52 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: How Do I Turn Off Vacation Msg? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Someone suggested that I delete the file in my home directory called .forward in order to reverse the auto-generated vacation msg. I tried this and received the message that the file doesn't exist. I've contacted the sysadmin at my ISP but he claimed that he didn't even know the program existed! Any other suggestions? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10045; Tue, 24 Sep 96 02:37:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA15192 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:35:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA15187 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:35:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5TpD-00038WC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 02:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ivan Almaleh Subject: Hur kan man spara filer fren ett e-post till ett disket? HJDLP Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:27:23 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hej, Jag har lite problem med att spara mina brev fr=E5n mitt e-mail l=E5da ti= ll en diskett i datorn. Jag har faktiskt alldrig lyckats att g=F6ra det och jag undrar om n=E5gon kan ge mig tips om hur man kan spara filer fr=E5n e-pos= t till dators diskett enhet. Jag brukar anv=E4da b=E5de PC (telnet program) och Mac (SITcomm program). H=E4lsningar=20 Ivan (ivan@lysator.liu.se)=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18108; Tue, 24 Sep 96 02:38:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA24904 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:35:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA24899 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:35:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5Tq3-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 02:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi Subject: Signature Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:12:51 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. Hi! Some information.....I'm trying to put the automatic signature using pine. The signature appears on the top of my email message and when I uses the function "reply" it usually happens that I have the signature on top and the letter is on the bottom. QUESTION: when I reply a message, how can I do to have my signature at the bottom of the old letter?? Thanks to everybody for reading. Enrico ********************************************************************** *** ** Enrico Degli Esposti Elisi *** E-mail: edeelisi@peabody.jhu.edu ** ***************************** *** ** Peabody Conservatory of Music *** Phone: (410) 837-7982 ** Campus Box #149 *** ** 606 St. Paul Street *** *** ** 21202-2355 Baltimore *** ** Maryland - U.S.A. *** ******* *** ** ***** *** *** ***** ** ********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11023; Tue, 24 Sep 96 05:25:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA17030 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:21:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id FAA17025 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 05:21:24 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbinx16082; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA20679; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:22:27 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01829; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:21:08 -0300 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:21:07 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Subject: displaying pine on X!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can i display pine under xwindows ??????????// Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10817; Tue, 24 Sep 96 06:10:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA27299 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:05:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vianet.on.ca (gwn.vianet.on.ca [204.187.88.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA27294 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:05:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (carle@localhost) by vianet.on.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09427; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:00:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Carle Brisson X-Sender: carle@gwn To: Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi wrote: > Hi! Some information.....I'm trying to put the automatic signature using > pine. The signature appears on the top of my email message and when I > uses the function "reply" it usually happens that I have the signature on > top and the letter is on the bottom. > > QUESTION: when I reply a message, how can I do to have my signature at > the bottom of the old letter?? > Setup->Config-> [X] signature-at-bottom Make sure this is checked. ----------------- -----------------------< V I A - N E T >------------------------- Carle@ViaNet.on.ca ----------------- Systems Administrator Carle Brisson A division of Via Computer & Communications 361 Algonquin Blvd West, Timmins ON Can. P4N 2S3 Ph: 705-268-5021 Fax: 705-264-6277 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11657; Tue, 24 Sep 96 06:20:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA17629 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:17:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA17622 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:17:08 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id PAA22780; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:15:43 +0200 Message-Id: <199609241313.PAA00328@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id PAA00328; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:13:08 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:06:39 +0200 (MET DST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Put this msg into wastebasket. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32749; Tue, 24 Sep 96 07:09:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA18313 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:05:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA18308 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:05:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5Y3y-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 07:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Mark mail read Date: 24 Sep 1996 09:45:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <51rp0v$hkg@capella.hkstar.com> Gareth Boden writes: >Make sure you have 'enable-aggregate-command-set' and >'enable-flag-command' on in the setup->config. > >Then use > ; A A * ! N > >; A = Select all messages >A * = Apply flag command to selection >! N = Flag as 'not new' If you are using Pine 3.95 the last step should be changed so that instead of `! N' you arrow down to the New field and then type `X X' to unset that flag. -Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13397; Tue, 24 Sep 96 07:54:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA28783 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:50:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA28778 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:50:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5Ynu-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 07:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schmacht@DBresearch-berlin.de (Martin Schmachtel) Subject: how to avoid bogus X-Sender header? Date: 24 Sep 1996 12:11:34 GMT Message-Id: <528j5m$94e@janitor.focus.dbag.bln.DaimlerBenz.com> Hi, I recently tried to build pine 3.95 (first on Solaris 2.5) because elm gave me so much trouble. It compiled out of the box (something I never seen with elm) but there is one annoying problem: I compiled with ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM and DF_USE_ONLY_DOMAIN_NAME, then set the domain in the config file because pine itself couldn't figure it out. Now every mail composed with pine gets a completely bogus X-Sender header which only contains username@hostname (without domain). I did not find any setting to switch this very annoying behaviour off (I do not mind to set ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM to off, as long as there is a way to specify the domainname somewhere at compile time) - is there a way to do this without fiddling with the source on every platform I compile it? Unfortunately I didn't find anything in tech-notes or the pine information center. Any clue appreciated. TIA schmadde From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08481; Tue, 24 Sep 96 08:02:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA19064 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:58:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA19057 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:58:05 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA27417; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:57:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:57:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Martin Schmachtel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how to avoid bogus X-Sender header? In-Reply-To: <528j5m$94e@janitor.focus.dbag.bln.DaimlerBenz.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Look in your /etc/hosts file to make sure that the complete form of host name is listed *before* the short form. -teg On 24 Sep 1996, Martin Schmachtel wrote: > Hi, > > I recently tried to build pine 3.95 (first on Solaris 2.5) because elm gave > me so much trouble. It compiled out of the box (something I never seen > with elm) but there is one annoying problem: > > I compiled with ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM and DF_USE_ONLY_DOMAIN_NAME, then > set the domain in the config file because pine itself couldn't figure > it out. Now every mail composed with pine gets a completely bogus > X-Sender header which only contains username@hostname (without domain). > > I did not find any setting to switch this very annoying behaviour off > (I do not mind to set ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM to off, as long as there is > a way to specify the domainname somewhere at compile time) - is there a > way to do this without fiddling with the source on every platform I compile > it? Unfortunately I didn't find anything in tech-notes or the pine > information center. Any clue appreciated. > > TIA > schmadde > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13743; Tue, 24 Sep 96 08:03:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA19085 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:58:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA19080 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:58:53 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA27427; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:58:19 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:58:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mark mail read In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Only if the full signature screen feature is enabled... -teg On 24 Sep 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > Gareth Boden writes: > >Make sure you have 'enable-aggregate-command-set' and > >'enable-flag-command' on in the setup->config. > > > >Then use > > ; A A * ! N > > > >; A = Select all messages > >A * = Apply flag command to selection > >! N = Flag as 'not new' > > If you are using Pine 3.95 the last step should be changed > so that instead of `! N' you arrow down to the New field and > then type `X X' to unset that flag. > > -Nancy > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03495; Tue, 24 Sep 96 09:14:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA01143 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:11:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vuse.vanderbilt.edu (mailhost.vuse.vanderbilt.edu [129.59.100.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA01138 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:11:42 -0700 Received: from jjrpc.vuse.vanderbilt.edu by vuse.vanderbilt.edu (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/VUSE-1.24) id LAA29030; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:09:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <32481432.5853@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:02:42 -0700 From: Gagan Jeet Bhalla X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems with the PINE inbox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, I'm hoping someone could help me out. Lately, I'd changed my read/write permissions to my account and from then on for some strange(and possibly unrelated reason) reason, I'm not able to recieve any messages in my PINE Inbox although I know that I'm getting new messages everyday(which I check on Netscape). I tried playing around with the Configuration within PINe but to no avail. Hope some of you can help, Thanks, -Gagan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19124; Tue, 24 Sep 96 11:25:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA24316 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:21:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA24311 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:21:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5c5Q-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 11:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rch@katie.vnet.net (rch) Subject: Win95 Pine *offline* Date: 24 Sep 1996 14:00:36 -0400 Message-Id: <5297k4$b7i@katie.vnet.net> Is there any way to disable Pine's startup networking (which eventually times out, but it's a pain) so that it can be used off-line to read mail folders stored on a PC? Command-line switch, pinerc variable? If not, is there a similar program that can be used just to read stored mail files (most in RFC822 format)? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19127; Tue, 24 Sep 96 11:29:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA04399 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:26:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA04394 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:26:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5c8X-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 11:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joel F Kislan Subject: PINE in Win NT dos window Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 10:01:34 -1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody know how to get PINE to run as a dos window? I am trying to set up a mail server where people can telnet in and check mail, but on a Windows NT 3.51 server. If not does anybody know of another full-featured text mail/POP client for NT? Thanks Joel Kislan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19231; Tue, 24 Sep 96 11:31:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA24436 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:28:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id LAA24431 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:28:29 -0700 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA08059; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:28:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:27:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma To: rch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Win95 Pine *offline* In-Reply-To: <5297k4$b7i@katie.vnet.net> Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII pine -f MAILBOX will have pine just open the mailbox named "MAILBOX".... works on UNIX, don't know about a PC.... TjL On 24 Sep 1996, rch wrote: > > Is there any way to disable Pine's startup networking (which eventually > times out, but it's a pain) so that it can be used off-line to read mail > folders stored on a PC? Command-line switch, pinerc variable? If not, > is there a similar program that can be used just to read stored mail > files (most in RFC822 format)? > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19712; Tue, 24 Sep 96 11:48:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA25041 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:46:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA25036 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:46:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5cTW-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 11:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rooster@bgnet0.bgsu.edu (Kevin Roth) Subject: Re: OK to install in ~/bin? Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:56:59 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit } Has anyone installed pine in the bin subdirectory of their home directory? } And it worked? ;-) It worked fine for me... Of course, this is assuming you have enough quota to compile the sucker. Pine itself doesn't need to do anything as root. --Kevin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04602; Tue, 24 Sep 96 11:48:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA05034 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:46:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA05029 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:46:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5cUP-00038YC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 11:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Mark mail read Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:06:09 GMT Message-Id: <5290pd$e5h@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <51rp0v$hkg@capella.hkstar.com> Yes, there is. In the Pine set-up, make sure that you have the "enable-aggregate-command-set" and "enable-flag-cmd" options checked. Go to your folder index and do "; a" to select all messages, then use "a * ! n" to flag all selected messages as "not new." A final "; a" will unselect all messages. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 19 Sep 1996 15:31:43 GMT, chiyung@b1.hkstar.com (Chan Chi Yung) wrote: > I wonder if there is a function that can mark all mail read, if it did, >it save me a lot of time! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20104; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:18:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25847 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:16:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25842 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:16:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5cxA-00038YC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:44:58 GMT Message-Id: <529a33$nvm@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <526q36$k4@news.ececs.uc.edu> Bounce is not the same as BCC. To see the Blind Carbon Copy header, use CTRL-R while in the header section of the message you're composing to reveal the "rich headers." If you use it a lot, modify your setup option "default-composer-hdrs" to make BCC appear automatically for each message you send. -Ram Basu -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 23 Sep 1996 19:57:26 GMT, yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) wrote: >In article , > mccoy@wombat.eng.fsu.edu ("Kirk D. Mccoy") writes: >> >> Is there a such thing as BCC? >> How do I use it? >Pine has a "bounce" command which seems to be what you want. You need to >enable "bounce" in order to use it when you read mails. It is time to go >through the setup-configureation once again ... :-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13937; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:24:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA06053 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:21:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA06047 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:21:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5d2b-00038YC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL (Dick Hogeweg) Subject: Re: alternate editor command Date: Fri, 20 Sep 96 06:45:36 GMT Message-Id: <51teim$fao@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: <51jnv3$hmt@news.fsu.edu> In article , Matt Chatterley wrote: >On 16 Sep 1996, Joseph Cain wrote: >> >> I put an X in the enable-alternate-editor-cmd using superuser mode and >> it appears also when I look on my own account. However, when I compose >> a message it always goes to pico. Am I missing some other setting I >> need to make to have this function? If you don't want to use the Pico editor anymore you'll have to enable the option "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly"!-) Kind regards, Dick Hogeweg Email: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL WWW: http://www.LeidenUniv.NL CRI, instituut voor telecommunicatie _______ en computerdienstverlening | Postbus 9512, 2300 RA Leiden Rijks Universiteit Leiden | tel. +31 71 5276900, fax +31 71 5276967 | | | | | | | - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20655; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:24:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25970 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:21:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25965 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:21:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5czl-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: corn0060@gold.tc.umn.edu (Bruce G Cornelius) Subject: How do you set the return address? Date: 20 Sep 1996 00:59:46 GMT Message-Id: <51sqa2$1jv@epx.cis.umn.edu> Could someone tell me how to set the return address on Pine to be different from the e-mail address from which I'm sending, but without changing this configuration for anything else? Thank you in advance for your reply. -- Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19821; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:24:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25977 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:21:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25972 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:21:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5d2e-00038ZC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: HELP!! Can't send e-mail to Mac Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 00:49:34 GMT Message-Id: <51vdts$edp@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <51ms06$47n@news1.io.org> I dunno why the attachment shouldn't arrive, but if you want to convert the WP51 file to a straight text file, I'd suggest the following steps: 1. In WP, set your margins/font so the lines wrap before the edge of the screen. 2. Use CTRL-F5, T, S to save the text as a straight text file. Then you can use Pine's CTRL-R command to read the file directly into the message you're composing. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 17 Sep 1996 18:51:50 GMT, flash@io.org (Sheldon Gordon) wrote: >Need advice on sending e-mail with file attachment from a PC platform to >a Mac platform. I am using a 286 with DOS. The e-mail reaches the >destination but not the uploaded file. I am told I should cut and paste >the file content into the e-mail message, but I don't think I can cut and >paste with 286 DOS. What about converting the file - a WordPerfect 5.1 >file - into a DOS file or TEXT file? How would I do that? Any other >suggestions? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20619; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:24:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA06037 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:21:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA06032 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:21:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5cyh-00038WC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Pine's command Select(Cur) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:40:14 GMT Message-Id: <5299q7$nvm@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: After selecting the message(s) you want, you can operate on them as a group using the "a" (for "apply") command. This allows you to "apply" the commands "save," "export," "delete" and a variety of others to your selected messages. -Ram Basu -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 23 Sep 1996 18:02:02 GMT, lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) wrote: >In elm, you can tag messages in a message list and with one command for >example save the marked to a specific folder. In pine, there is a also >the passibility (with the ':') to select messages. However, to my >surprise you can't _do_ anything with the selceted - not save to a >folder, nor export to a file. Have I overlooked something? If not, what >is the idea behind the Select(Cur) command? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20564; Tue, 24 Sep 96 12:24:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA06024 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:21:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vianet.on.ca (gwn.vianet.on.ca [204.187.88.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id MAA06019 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:20:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (carle@localhost) by vianet.on.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA04136 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Carle Brisson X-Sender: carle@gwn To: Pine-Info Subject: *** Who knows about Message-ID in pine ? *** Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have pine setup on 4 of our servers, one of which is our main mail host. Using MAPI to connect to main host. All works fine on the mail host. On the other servers however, the message-ID is broken... it's always Message-ID: -100000 Anyone have this problem b4? ----------------- -----------------------< V I A - N E T >------------------------- Carle@ViaNet.on.ca ----------------- Systems Administrator Carle Brisson A division of Via Computer & Communications 361 Algonquin Blvd West, Timmins ON Can. P4N 2S3 Ph: 705-268-5021 Fax: 705-264-6277 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21752; Tue, 24 Sep 96 13:19:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA07811 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:16:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA07805 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:16:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5dru-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 13:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: pine command in newsgroup Date: 24 Sep 1996 20:09:59 GMT Message-Id: <529f6n$dvq@due.unit.no> References: In article , Jill wrote: > >I want to know if entries can be deleted by the date of entry, etc, and if >so, HOW? Absolutely. First, you need to have the enable-aggregate-command option set in Setup/Config. Then, you can select messages using the ; command, and delete the selected messages with A(pply) D(elete). To select according to date received, find the first and last message you want to delete (say, from 1 to 850) and do a select by number: ;n1-850 Sending date requires you to do a sort by date first: $d ;n1-850 If you use a different default sort order than Arrival in your folders, you need to resort for the first case as well. Selecting by text content and other things in messages is also possible: follow the ; sub-menus. Note that the select (;) command behaves slightly different if you already have something selected. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20929; Tue, 24 Sep 96 13:22:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA07869 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:18:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA07864 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:18:46 -0700 Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by copland.udel.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11189 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaclyn Miche Marino Reply-To: Jaclyn Miche Marino To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: What is wrong?? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Recently my inbox says "readonly" and I can't delete any messages nor can any messages be moved from my inbox to "read-mail". Can you please tell me what is wrong and how I can fix it. Thank you. Jaclyn Marino From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21813; Tue, 24 Sep 96 13:33:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA08193 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:30:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news1.radix.net (news1.radix.net [204.157.34.41]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA08188 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:30:47 -0700 Received: from saltmine.radix.net (jhd@saltmine.radix.net [204.157.34.40]) by news1.radix.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20329 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:30:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Joseph Davidson X-Sender: jhd@saltmine.radix.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Convert Address Lists Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Between Pine, Elm, Eudora, Netscape check www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23671; Tue, 24 Sep 96 14:24:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA29395 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:21:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ceddec.ceddec.com (mercury.ceddec.com [207.91.200.193]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA29389 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:20:54 -0700 Received: (from shutdown@localhost) by ceddec.ceddec.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA31309 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:20:55 -0400 Received: from deimos(207.91.200.7) by ceddec via smap (V1.3) id sma031295; Tue Sep 24 17:20:39 1996 Received: by deimos (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0v5etP-000ENWC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:19 EDT Date: Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:19 EDT Received: from localhost(127.0.0.1) by deimos.ceddec.com via smap (V2.0alpha) id xma004846; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:19:30 -0400Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:19:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Zerucha Reply-To: tz@execpc.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I stop (or increase the delay) for mailbox checkpointing? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK, I get two asterisks, so it is saving the state of the mailbox. How do I make it stop doing this every few minutes or so? It is really annoying since it will buffer keystrokes for the 10-30 seconds or more it takes, so I may inadvertently delete messages or worse. tz@execpc.com finger tz@execpc.com for PGP key From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23706; Tue, 24 Sep 96 14:24:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA29415 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:21:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA29410 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:21:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5esT-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 14:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neilg@snowdn.cv.com (Neil Grantham (neilg@marstons.cv.com)) Subject: PINE Aborts Date: 24 Sep 96 11:24:42 GMT Message-Id: <1996Sep24.112442@snowdn> Hello out there, I have a problem with PINE 3.91, it may be platform specific, but here goes. If you had this problem, how is it fixed please:- Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. I just 'bomb' out. Has anyone else had this and know how to solve the problem. Neil Grantham From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09442; Tue, 24 Sep 96 14:50:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA10145 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:46:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA10140 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:46:16 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 25 Sep 96 05:51:31 +0800 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:42:59 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: tz@execpc.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I stop (or increase the delay) for mailbox checkpointing? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Tom Zerucha wrote: > OK, I get two asterisks, so it is saving the state of the mailbox. How > do I make it stop doing this every few minutes or so? It is really > annoying since it will buffer keystrokes for the 10-30 seconds or more it > takes, so I may inadvertently delete messages or worse. If you were using pine 3.95 you could go to setup/config and find the following "feature": mail-check-interval = You might even read the help menu and find: OPTION: Mail-Check-Interval This options specifies, in seconds, how often Pine will check for new mail. If set to zero, new-mail checking is disabled. There is a minimum value, normally 15 seconds. SUPRIZE!!!! Your header information shows..... Message-ID: So, guess what.....that feature is available to you! You just failed to do "information research". Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20860; Tue, 24 Sep 96 15:21:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA11078 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:18:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA11073 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:18:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5fk0-00038WC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 15:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: James Shattuck Subject: Re: What is wrong?? Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:25:05 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: : : Recently my inbox says "readonly" and I can't delete any messages nor can : any messages be moved from my inbox to "read-mail". Can you please tell : me what is wrong and how I can fix it. Thank you. : Jaclyn Marino Jaclyn, What that usually means is that something else is trying to access your inbox at the same time you are there. That means someone else has access to your acount, or you have Netscape open at the same time and it is trying to check if you have mail. This can go away easily, by quitting Pine and re-entering again, you may have to do that everytime you get that message, though. Good Luck, James ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Alan Shattuck Computer Science Major Disabled Student Services - High Tech Center CSU, Chico 898-5959 DSS Home Page: http://www.csuchico.edu/dss/ Born: 9/3/63 Adopted: 7/71 as Anthony Douglass, San Francisco, Ca Searching for Birth Family Adoption Home Page: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~progman/adoption ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24832; Tue, 24 Sep 96 15:25:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA11182 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:21:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [204.147.226.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA11177 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:21:56 -0700 Received: (from plato@localhost) by quack.kfu.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA27433; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:21:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:21:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Alice Kao To: Timothy Luoma Cc: rch , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine *offline* In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Is there any way to disable Pine's startup networking (which eventually > > times out, but it's a pain) so that it can be used off-line to read mail > > folders stored on a PC? Command-line switch, pinerc variable? If not, > > is there a similar program that can be used just to read stored mail > > files (most in RFC822 format)? > pine -f MAILBOX > will have pine just open the mailbox named "MAILBOX".... > works on UNIX, don't know about a PC.... If anyone knows how to do the same thing on a PC, please let me know! Alice Kao (plato@quack.kfu.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20271; Tue, 24 Sep 96 16:31:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA02749 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:28:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tortoise.oise.utoronto.ca (tortoise.oise.utoronto.ca [192.75.177.236]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA02744 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:28:24 -0700 Received: by tortoise.oise.utoronto.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (rsm960617)) for id TAA27456; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:24:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:24:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Linda Kalli Paakspuu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 Technical Notes (fwd Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a question. Is it possible to change the "From" on Pine? While 'surfing the net' I wrote letters to a few sites, and I was able to choose what name i would go under, and I was given the option of allowing the person who was to recieve my message of keeping my e-mail adress confidential. Is there anyway to perform this command on Pine? I appreciate your help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26612; Tue, 24 Sep 96 16:53:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA03314 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:52:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA03307 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:51:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5hEJ-00038WC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 16:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Gostin Subject: PINE piping into Zmodem Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:43:34 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm reading a msg in a newsgroup. I wish to download it using Zmodem. Is there a way to pipe it into rz/sz? (I currently have to save it into a file, exit PINE, download it, re-enter PINE. Of course I lose my place where I was last reading.) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18973; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:08:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA03775 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:06:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [204.147.226.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA03770 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:06:07 -0700 Received: (from plato@localhost) by quack.kfu.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA29535; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:06:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:06:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Alice Kao To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Subject: Error message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Can't send message without an open remote folder" How can I get rid of this error message which pops up whenever I try to compose offline? I have PC-Pine 3.95 running on DOS, and set up Pine to use a file (which I manually update) on my PC as the inbox. Alice Kao (plato@quack.kfu.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27118; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:09:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA13642 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:07:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [204.147.226.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA13631 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:07:37 -0700 Received: (from plato@localhost) by quack.kfu.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA29627; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:07:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:07:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Alice Kao To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Subject: Colors in PICO In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a DOS version of PICO which came with the PC-Pine package I downloaded. Is there a way to change the noxious blue, cyan, and orange colors which PICO came in? (I was able to change it in Pine.) Alice Kao (plato@quack.kfu.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27266; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:29:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA04235 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:27:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA04228 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:27:30 -0700 Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by copland.udel.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02468 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:27:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaclyn Miche Marino To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I need some help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My first question is can I change my password, and if so how. Second, my inbox says(read only) and I tried quitting and reentering pine bit it did not help. Can someone please try to answer my questions and get back to me soon. Thank you. -Jaclyn Marino From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08393; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:29:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA13983 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:27:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA13978 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:27:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5hoV-00038UC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jungshik@net161-61.student.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: attaching html file Date: 24 Sep 1996 20:05:39 -0400 Message-Id: <529t0j$o7a@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Some mail/news programs including Pine(with an appropriate entry in mailcap) can be configured to launch a web browser to display text/html. My ~/.mailcap contains following line, which works with most mail client/news reader endorsing mailcap(e.g. Pine, Tin,Elm) text/html; xterm -e lynxpipe %s where lynxpipe is a shell script shown below. -------------- #!/bin/sh trap 'rm -f /tmp/$$.*; exit 1' 1 2 15 IN=$1 test $IN || { IN=/tmp/$$.stdin ;cat >$IN; } cp $IN $IN.html lynx $IN.html /bin/rm /tmp/$IN.html /bin/rm /tmp/$$* ------------- Netscape-Mail is also able to display text/html in mail message as it should be the case because it's a web browser. Problem with Pine is that there's no way to attach HTML file with Content-Type header text/html. Pine blindly put 'text/plain' in "Content-Type: " whether it's html or really plain text. I suspect it also puts 'text/plain' instead of even if it's a Postscript file. To solve this problem, I suggest a couple of options be added to Pine configuration. They are 'Allow manual Content-Type designation when attaching' and/or 'Automatically determine Content-Type for attachment based on extension'. I guess what they are meant to be is obvious. Besides, there can be a case when attached text file(text/plain, text/html) uses character set different from other part of message as specified in 'charset' of Pine configuration. Hence, it'd be nice to have Pine ask for charset field when attaching 'text/*' file. I wish this would be cosnidered carefully and reflected in next release of Pine. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28154; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:35:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA04359 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:33:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from he.net (he.net [207.33.3.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA04351 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:33:22 -0700 Received: (from gatenet@localhost) by he.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA03482; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:30:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:30:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Gatenet Software To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Remove From: from print Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can i remove ther From header when a print a message? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27995; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:42:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA04517 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:40:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA04512 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:40:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 24 SEP 96 16:36:02 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:36:02 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Thanks for the Help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I got the answer to my vacation msg problem. One of two commands can do it: mail -F "" or vacation -n Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16049; Tue, 24 Sep 96 17:47:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA04606 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:45:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA04600 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:45:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 24 SEP 96 16:41:22 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Pine Manual Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've searched around for a copy of the 3.95 manual but can't seem to locate it anywhere on the system. I thought it was under Setup, Update but no luck. Am I looking in the wrong place? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28848; Tue, 24 Sep 96 18:27:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA14952 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:26:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frontier.wilpaterson.edu (frontier.wilpaterson.edu [149.151.1.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA14947 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:26:04 -0700 Received: by frontier.wilpaterson.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA10719; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:28:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:28:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Mary Monroe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: chip@frontier.wilpaterson.edu Subject: Problem with my e-mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To who it may concern, For some reason I am able to recieve e-mail, but not able to send it. I ws given this e-mail address if I had any problems. Please if you know what is going on get back in touch with me. Thank-you, chip From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11049; Tue, 24 Sep 96 19:00:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA05598 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:57:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA05592 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:57:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5jAv-00038WC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 18:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: How do you set the return address? Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:46:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Or Reply-to: Bruce Cornelius Either one should work, I think... --- Nathan Richards, aka. Sunspot on Efica MUD (http://195.92.35.130:3995/) Email: bm782@torfree.net WWW: http://www.naples.net/~nfn04143/Nathan/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22192; Tue, 24 Sep 96 20:04:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA16118 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:02:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA16113 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:02:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5kE4-00038YC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 20:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (J. Tse) Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:32:09 GMT References: In article , Kirk D. Mccoy wrote: > >Is there a such thing as BCC? >How do I use it? When you're composing a message, move the cursor to one of the header lines and press ^R. This keystroke enables Rich Headers, which include the field Bcc:. Hope this helps. J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32260; Wed, 25 Sep 96 00:11:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA09578 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:07:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA09573 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:07:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5o2a-00038YC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 00:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paolo@tecno.ior.it (Paolo Mattioli) Subject: PINE & POP3 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:00:55 GMT Message-Id: <52al8r$1nt@sirio.cineca.it> Hi, my name is Paolo Mattioli and I would like to know if Pine (Unix - Irix 5.3 Version) could be configured to access a POP3 Server without using sendmail. In other words I would like to delete sendmail program, cause of security, and to receive e-mail messages from a POP3 server. Thanks for your suggestions, Paolo Mattioli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paolo Mattioli Laboratorio di Tecnologia dei Materiali tel. 0039-51-6366864 Istituti Ortopedici Rizzoli via di barbiano 1/10, 40136 - Bologna, Italy fax. 0039-51-6366863 E-mail: paolo@tecno.ior.it ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32418; Wed, 25 Sep 96 00:47:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA19631 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:44:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA19626 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:44:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5oYm-00038YC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 00:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eubrafo@origo.bahnhof.se (Rabbe Fogelholm) Subject: Re: How do you set the return address? Date: 25 Sep 1996 07:21:41 GMT Message-Id: <52ami5$h96@Steinlager.tip.net> References: <51sqa2$1jv@epx.cis.umn.edu> : > This explains how to customize the "Reply-to:" header. Would it also : > be possible to customize the "From:" header, or is that outside the : > scope of a mail client? : > : > The reason that I am asking is this: At our site we have : > platform-independent addresses on our business cards : > (Firstname.Lastname@Domain), but the From: header that Pine inserts : > looks more like "Firstname Lastname" , which has : > caused people to ask me which address to really use when responding. : > : > -- Rabbe.Fogelholm@ellemtel.se : : At my site, the mail exchanger alters the "From" line to "First.Last@UC.EDU" : and users do not have to worry about it in Pine or other mail agents. Can : you ask your sys adm to do the same? : : Jie : -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- : == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == : == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == : == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= Most people at our site are using PC clients such as Eudora, which are said to allow the From: header to be configured by the user. The sys adm asked me why I couldn't do like everyone else. I still would like to be able to use Pine, though. -- Rabbe.Fogelholm@ellemtel.se From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31708; Wed, 25 Sep 96 01:05:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA10305 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:03:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA10300 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:02:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5orS-00038YC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 00:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbenny Subject: Configuration Problem? Date: 25 Sep 1996 00:55:04 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII TIA for any assistance that can be provided. Not a big problem, but annoying and makes me feel and look like the newbie that I am. Because I like Pine and learned how to do e-mail initially with Pine, I also use it for news groups. This situation began with version 3.94 and continues into version 3.95. I think it is a configuration situation, but my system admin says it is a "feature" that is built into Pine. When I post to a newsgroup, in the index of the newsgroup, instead of showing my name, the line "To:" appears. How can I correct this? I have read the faq, read everything that seems relevant in the Pine homepage, but I can't figure it out. Again, thanks for any help. ============================================================================= jbenny@primenet.com ============================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32565; Wed, 25 Sep 96 01:35:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA10753 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:32:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA10745 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:32:15 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 25 Sep 96 16:37:31 +0800 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:28:57 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: jbenny Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Sep 1996, jbenny wrote: > When I post to a newsgroup, in the index of the newsgroup, instead of > showing my name, the line "To:" appears. How can I correct this? There is *nothing* to correct. This question pops up many times a week. It leads one to wonder if anyone actually reads the replies, etc..... Anyway, if you go to the I(ndex) screen and type ?(help) you can read a bit and find... SENDER: The name or email address of the sender. If you are the sender, then the first recipient's name is shown here. In Newsgroups, if you are the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be listed. So, it is a feature..... *Your* pineine knows who you are....you know who you are (we hope.... ). So, why display that a message was sent by you when you know your sent it??? *MY* pine doesn't know who you are.....so *MY* pine displays your name. OK??? -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32660; Wed, 25 Sep 96 01:41:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA20438 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:39:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA20427 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:39:36 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id KAA11235; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:39:24 +0200 Message-Id: <199609250837.KAA17184@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA17184; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:37:01 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:53:35 +0200 (MET DST) To: Gatenet Software Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remove From: from print In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Gatenet Software wrote: -> How can i remove ther From header when a print a message? -> You can do: 1) Save the mesg to a file, and edit the header. Print the edited file. 2) Use a tailored print cmd, which does eleminating unwanted headers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20345; Wed, 25 Sep 96 01:42:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA10854 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:39:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA10849 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 01:39:44 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id KAA11254; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:39:29 +0200 Message-Id: <199609250837.KAA17193@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA17193; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:37:06 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:10:45 +0200 (MET DST) To: Jungshik Shin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attaching html file In-Reply-To: <529t0j$o7a@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 24 Sep 1996, Jungshik Shin wrote: -> Some mail/news programs including Pine(with an appropriate entry in -> mailcap) can be configured to launch a web browser to display -> text/html. My ~/.mailcap contains following line, which works -> with most mail client/news reader endorsing mailcap(e.g. Pine, Tin,Elm) -> -> text/html; xterm -e lynxpipe %s -> -> where lynxpipe is a shell script shown below. -> -> -------------- -> #!/bin/sh -> trap 'rm -f /tmp/$$.*; exit 1' 1 2 15 -> IN=$1 -> test $IN || { IN=/tmp/$$.stdin ;cat >$IN; } -> cp $IN $IN.html -> lynx $IN.html -> /bin/rm /tmp/$IN.html -> /bin/rm /tmp/$$* -> ------------- -> -> Netscape-Mail is also able to display text/html in mail message -> as it should be the case because it's a web browser. -> -> Problem with Pine is that there's no way to attach HTML file -> with Content-Type header text/html. Pine blindly put 'text/plain' -> in "Content-Type: " whether it's html or really plain text. -> I suspect it also puts 'text/plain' instead of even if it's a -> Postscript file. To solve this problem, I suggest a couple of options -> be added to Pine configuration. They are -> -> 'Allow manual Content-Type designation when attaching' -> and/or -> 'Automatically determine Content-Type for attachment based on extension'. -> -> I guess what they are meant to be is obvious. Besides, -> there can be a case when attached text file(text/plain, text/html) -> uses character set different from other part of message as specified -> in 'charset' of Pine configuration. Hence, it'd be nice to have -> Pine ask for charset field when attaching 'text/*' file. -> -> I wish this would be cosnidered carefully and reflected in -> next release of Pine. -> -> Jungshik Shin -> -> -> -> I have this line in my ~/.mime.types: text/html html and in my ~/.mailcaps: text/html; netscape %s ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" This works for attached files with .html as suffix (pine 3.95 at linux). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 02:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08770; Wed, 25 Sep 96 02:05:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA20723 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 02:03:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA20718 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 02:03:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5pnZ-00038ZC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 01:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbenny Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? Date: 25 Sep 1996 01:54:03 -0700 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Sep 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 25 Sep 1996, jbenny wrote: > > > When I post to a newsgroup, in the index of the newsgroup, instead of > > showing my name, the line "To:" appears. How can I correct this? > > There is *nothing* to correct. This question pops up many > times a week. It leads one to wonder if anyone actually reads the > replies, etc..... I had not yet read all the posts in this news group. Sorry! > Anyway, if you go to the I(ndex) screen and type ?(help) you > can read a bit and find... > > SENDER: The name or email address of the sender. If you are the sender, > then the first recipient's name is shown here. In Newsgroups, if you are > the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be > listed. I had done this. Reading the help file does not explain why we do not see our name in the index file nor is the change mentioned in any of the update files. Perhaps you have extraordinary abilities that I don't and therefore you assume the righteousness to insult me and others. FWIW, I think it was a stupid change. I like features that are wysiwyg, goodness knows there are enough things that can go wrong in using the internet and newsgroups that we should be able to see what the rest of the world is seeing. There didn't seem to be a problem prior to version 3.94, so why the change? > So, it is a feature..... *Your* pineine knows who you > are....you know who you are (we hope.... ). So, why display that a > message was sent by you when you know your sent it??? Because I expect, and would much prefer, that it display in the same manner that the other messages are displayed > > *MY* pine doesn't know who you are.....so *MY* pine displays > your name. > > OK??? It is ok that it displays properly for you, but it is not ok that it doesn't display in the same format for me. [snip sig lines] ============================================================================= jbenny@primenet.com ============================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00986; Wed, 25 Sep 96 03:08:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA12047 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:04:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA12042 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:04:14 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:58:42 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA00878; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:03:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:03:09 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: jbenny Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" [Tries to pour some oil on troubled waters...] On 25 Sep 1996, jbenny wrote: > > Anyway, if you go to the I(ndex) screen and type ?(help) you > > can read a bit and find... > > > > SENDER: The name or email address of the sender. If you are the sender, > > then the first recipient's name is shown here. In Newsgroups, if you are > > the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be > > listed. > > I had done this. Reading the help file does not explain why we do not see > our name in the index file nor is the change mentioned in any of the > update files. Ummm... agreed that the built-in help doesn't explain the "Why?" of this feature, but you must admit that it does say "What" is done. As for why it doesn't explain the "Why?"... well I guess they didn't feel the need; many, many pieces of documentation explain the "what" but rarely the "why". Perhaps the Pine Team could consider including a bit of "why" about this feature in the built-in help given how many times the question gets asked. > Perhaps you have extraordinary abilities that I don't and > therefore you assume the righteousness to insult me and others. Hmmm... I don't think they feel they have extraordinary abilities. Perhaps, like myself at times, they are just fed up with having this question asked and answered half a dozen times or so each week. Are you (jbenny) new to this mailing list/newsgroup? If so then there is perhaps reason for you to ask your question (although Netiquette suggests reading past articles and "lurking" for a while before starting to post your own). If you have been reading the group for a while then I'm surprised you haven't noticed how often this question goes by :-} > FWIW, I > think it was a stupid change. It depends what you mean by "change" here... Pine has always -- as far as I recall -- behaved in this way. > I like features that are wysiwyg, goodness > knows there are enough things that can go wrong in using the internet and > newsgroups that we should be able to see what the rest of the world is > seeing. There didn't seem to be a problem prior to version 3.94, so why > the change? Sorry to disagree with you but Pine 3.91 certainly behaves in this way (I have just checked) and, if memory serves, versions all the way back to 3.87 (the version at which I think I first encountered Pine) did likewise. Perhaps you've only just started using Usenet News or saving outgoing messages and so have just noticed the effect? > Because I expect, and would much prefer, that it display in the same > manner that the other messages are displayed OK... the current version of Pine (3.95) allows you to change this. (Note that this is new to 3.95 -- or possibly slightly earlier; it was definitely missing in 3.91) At the Main Menu type "S" (Setup) then "C" (Configuration) and look through the options for "index-format". Put your cursor on this entry and type "?" to read the built-in help about it. Assuming you are otherwise happy with the layout of the Index screen you can change things to as you want them by noting the default value used: index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROMORTO(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) and setting a value based very closely on this: index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) (Note the change of FROMORTO to become FROM.) So far from the Pine Team introducing a change which you hate, the only change the've actually made is to let you _avoid_ the display you despise so much :-) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01158; Wed, 25 Sep 96 03:25:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA21798 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:23:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA21793 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:23:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5r6f-00038ZC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 03:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thierry philipovitch Subject: pine for MAC, and PC/Unix interactions... Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:05:13 +0100 Message-Id: <324903D9.41C67EA6@cetiis.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I've two problems/questions which I guess to be easy. 1) Is there a version of Pine for Mac OS 7.x ? 2) I've just installed pc-pine on a PC running win95, and with an ethernet card (I'm using the resident TCP/IP stack given iwth win95). I would like to read my mail on a Unix machine connected to this PC. But I can't access to my MBOX! Is there someone who could tell me what I should install on my snmtp (unix) server to read my mails on my PC ? note: I well specified in the pine configuration the name of the snmtp server ! Thanks a lot in advance ! Thierry -- ===================== Thierry PHILIPOVITCH ===================== CETIIS Aix Metropole - Bt D 30, av Malacrida 13100 Aix-en-Provence -- FRANCE -- ===================== Tel. : (33) 42 93 47 07 Fax : (33) 42 26 52 19 Email: thierry@cetiis.fr ===================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01133; Wed, 25 Sep 96 03:26:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA21821 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:24:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA21815 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:24:50 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:30:06 +0800 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:21:33 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: jbenny Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Sep 1996, jbenny wrote: > I had not yet read all the posts in this news group. Sorry! No need to be sorry. Just follow proper netiquette, which is to read the past few weeks of messages before posting. In the past 10 days this same question has been asked/answered 5X. > > SENDER: The name or email address of the sender. If you are the sender, > > then the first recipient's name is shown here. In Newsgroups, if you are > > the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be > > listed. > > I had done this. Reading the help file does not explain why we do not see > our name in the index file nor is the change mentioned in any of the > update files. Perhaps you have extraordinary abilities that I don't and > therefore you assume the righteousness to insult me and others. No desire to "insult" but I'm not sure how clearer the extraction from the help menu could be? It states: "If you are the sender, then the first recipient's name is shown here". That's what you are seeing.... right? > FWIW, I > think it was a stupid change. I like features that are wysiwyg, goodness > knows there are enough things that can go wrong in using the internet and > newsgroups that we should be able to see what the rest of the world is > seeing. There didn't seem to be a problem prior to version 3.94, so why > the change? The "change" only affects the I(ndex) screen. If you type v(iew) you will see what everyone in the rest of the world sees. > > So, it is a feature..... *Your* pineine knows who you > > are....you know who you are (we hope.... ). So, why display that a > > message was sent by you when you know your sent it??? > > Because I expect, and would much prefer, that it display in the same > manner that the other messages are displayed One reason is that you can get many messages that start out like this: Subject: Re: Bug in pine 3.95 (Well.....hopefully not too many with that subject :-) ) If I've a visual indication that I've sent this message...I can skip over it. > It is ok that it displays properly for you, but it is not ok that it > doesn't display in the same format for me. Oh, well. Suspect you can't please all of the people all of the time. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00434; Wed, 25 Sep 96 04:03:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA12619 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:01:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from net161-61.student.yale.edu (net161-61.student.yale.edu [130.132.161.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA12614 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:01:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (jungshik@localhost) by net161-61.student.yale.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA29877 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:01:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:01:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Jungshik Shin Reply-To: jshin@pantheon.yale.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attaching html file In-Reply-To: <199609250837.KAA17193@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm afraid I failed to make myself understood as clearly as I wished. > -> Problem with Pine is that there's no way to attach HTML file > -> with Content-Type header text/html. Pine blindly put 'text/plain' > -> in "Content-Type: " whether it's html or really plain text. > -> > -> > I have this line in my ~/.mime.types: > text/html html > and in my ~/.mailcaps: > text/html; netscape %s ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" > This works for attached files with .html as suffix (pine 3.95 at linux). Of course, it should work although I don't wanna invoke netscape to display attached HTML. My solution, invoking much lighter lynx instead, is preferrable to me. Anyway, that's NOT an issue,here. My posting is NOT about viewing attached HTML file but about attaching HTML file(and other file in plain text format but not text/plain. e.g. Postscript) in Pine. Pine should put 'text/html' in Content-Type header when a file one wanna attach is 'html' file. One easy way is determine MIME subtype by file extension and the other is let users specify MIME type manually. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00664; Wed, 25 Sep 96 04:08:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA12714 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:03:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA12703 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:03:46 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:58:10 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA10776; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:02:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:02:41 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: thierry philipovitch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine for MAC, and PC/Unix interactions... In-Reply-To: <324903D9.41C67EA6@cetiis.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, thierry philipovitch wrote: > Hello, > I've two problems/questions which I guess to be easy. > > 1) Is there a version of Pine for Mac OS 7.x ? No. However there are some alternatives (which make better use of the Mac interface). You may like to try out: * Mail Drop (free) See (Get the latest development (d) or beta (b) version.) * Mulberry (commercial) See (Demo version available.) A list of other IMAP clients (Mac and other platforms) can be found at The IMAP Connection: > 2) I've just installed pc-pine on a PC running win95, and with an > ethernet card (I'm using the resident TCP/IP stack given iwth win95). I > would like to read my mail on a Unix machine connected to this PC. But I > can't access to my MBOX! Is there someone who could tell me what I > should install on my snmtp (unix) server to read my mails on my PC ? > note: I well specified in the pine configuration the name of the snmtp > server ! [Please be careful when using acronyms: SNMP is a network management protocol; SMTP is the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol!] In order to use PC-Pine to read mail from a UNIX machine that UNIX machine must have an IMAP server installed and properly configured. You then set up PC-Pine to open an IMAP connection to this server to give access to your mail folders. In the first instance check whether an IMAP server has been set up on your UNIX system. If not, then that is the first step. If there is one there (and it is known to work) then there is a problem with your PC-Pine configuration (which no-one can help with unless you descibe how it is currently configured, the name of your IMAP server, etc.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27272; Wed, 25 Sep 96 05:12:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA13553 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:07:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA13548 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:07:12 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 25 Sep 96 20:12:29 +0800 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:03:55 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I err'd and missed Cc'ing the group. Credit should go where credit is due.... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:50:05 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > At the Main Menu type "S" (Setup) then "C" (Configuration) and look > through the options for "index-format". Put your cursor on this entry and > type "?" to read the built-in help about it. > > Assuming you are otherwise happy with the layout of the Index screen you > can change things to as you want them by noting the default value used: > > index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROMORTO(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) > > and setting a value based very closely on this: > > index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) Now there's a "power" user! Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01984; Wed, 25 Sep 96 05:18:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA13636 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:13:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA13631 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:13:17 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13204 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:13:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:13:09 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pc-pine, sources... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, surely a stupid question : a friend want's to adapt pc-pine to his needs and asked me for the sources. I didn't find anything looking like this... Did i miss something? ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02087; Wed, 25 Sep 96 05:34:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA13782 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:28:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA13777 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:28:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5t0W-00038YC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 05:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neilg@snowdn.cv.com (Neil Grantham (neilg@marstons.cv.com)) Subject: Move messages Date: 24 Sep 96 15:26:29 GMT Message-Id: <1996Sep24.152629@snowdn> Question: If you mark mail items in one folder using ";" How do you move them ? (A)pply only seems to have forward, delete, undelete etc. Can you help Neil Grantham From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23638; Wed, 25 Sep 96 06:29:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA14597 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:26:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA14592 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:26:35 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:21:52 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA04373; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:26:08 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:26:07 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Bruno Boettcher Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pc-pine, sources... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="ISO-8859-1" There isn't a separate set of sources just for PC-Pine. Instead the usual Pine sources are used (they can be compiled for a nummber of UNIX platforms plus Windows etc). You can find the current (3.95) sources at: The former is compressed using gzip, the latter compress (so make sure you transfer them in binary mode in order to uncompress them successfully). The latest version is always pointed to by: Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > Hello, > > surely a stupid question : > > a friend want's to adapt pc-pine to his needs and asked me for the sources. > I didn't find anything looking like this... > > Did i miss something? > > > > ciao > bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr > > ============================================================== > Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr > http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ > =============================================================== > the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. > human population is growing.... > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29183; Wed, 25 Sep 96 06:40:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24033 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:33:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24028 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:33:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5u4G-00038ZC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 06:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Problem with my e-mail Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:31:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 24 Sep 1996, Mary Monroe (chip?) wrote: > For some reason I am able to recieve e-mail, but not able to send it. I > ws given this e-mail address if I had any problems. Please if you know > what is going on get back in touch with me. For starters, comp.mail.pine is not an email address. It is the name of a newsgroup. I am not being picky -- there really is a difference, both practically and technically. If this were an email address and you weren't able to send email, we could not have seen your message, could we? :-) As for your problem, we cannot help you until you provide more information. Just telling an auto mechanic, "My car's making a funny noise" is insufficient data for him to be able to do very much about fixing your car. The more information you can provide, the more likely it is that someone will be able to help you. Does your site have a help desk or user information center? If so, that is the first place to ask for help. Otherwise, diagnostic information is necessary. From your message header, it appears that you are using Pine version 3.95, although it is always nice to have that confirmed. (That information is very important.) I do not recognize an apparent system designator of "GSO." What operating system are you using? What version? What kind of hardware? What mail transfer agent is involved? (Sendmail? Some other? What version?) Most importantly of all, when you try to send mail, *exactly* what happens? What kind of error message pops up? How do you know and why do you say that you cannot send mail? I hope you won't take offense, but just saying, "It's broken. What's wrong?" just isn't enough information for people to be able to help you. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21591; Wed, 25 Sep 96 06:48:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24221 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:45:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA24216 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:45:09 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:40:22 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA08360; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:44:49 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:44:48 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Neil Grantham (neilg@marstons.cv.com" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Move messages In-Reply-To: <1996Sep24.152629@snowdn> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Apply also offers "S" (Save -- moves messages between folders) and "E" (Export -- exports a copy of the message to a file "outside" Pine)... COmmand Menu after typing "A" (Apply): B Bounce D Del R Reply Y prYnt S Save * Flag ^^^^^^ ^C Cancel U Undel F Forward T TakeAddr E Export | Pipe ^^^^^^^^ Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 24 Sep 1996, Neil Grantham (neilg@marstons.cv.com wrote: > Question: If you mark mail items in one folder using ";" > How do you move them ? (A)pply only seems to have > forward, delete, undelete etc. > Can you help > > Neil Grantham > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02949; Wed, 25 Sep 96 06:55:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA14983 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:53:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA14978 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:53:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5uKk-00038aC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 06:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: comsci <"comsci"@singnet.com,sg> Subject: help me plsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 21:47:03 +0800 Message-Id: <52bd38$v3r@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm a singnet user who had just change my e-mail address but i prefer using chamelon mail.the problem is after i start changing some things eg:hostname n password... i can't it get to work the reason stated is :mail database directory cannot be acess.i can't even get into postmaster.any1 who can help me pls e-mail me immediately cos i need to use the mail daily,pls do not advised me to use other mail servers,thanks!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21166; Wed, 25 Sep 96 06:56:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24340 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:53:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24335 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:53:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5uLK-00038bC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 06:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahk@chinet.chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman) Subject: Re: How to config character different from US-Ascii??? Date: 24 Sep 1996 00:36:28 -0500 Message-Id: <527s0s$pf5@chinet.chinet.com> References: <51oacc$sbq@voyager.iii.org.tw> In-Reply-To: <51oacc$sbq@voyager.iii.org.tw> The "character-set=" option marks outgoing e-mail with the appropriate header. (If pine finds that the outgoing message contains nothing but 7-bit characters, it will be marked US-ASCII regardless of how this variable is set.) The gentleman needs to describe what type of terminal he is using. The terminal itself must be capable of displaying the character set used by the incoming message. pine only passes the message along as-is. In article , Virtual Joe wrote: >On 18 Sep 1996, PC_USER wrote: >>I get a lot of Chinese mail. From time to time, I get messages saying >>the e-mail is using iso-8859-1 character set, and my display is US-ASCII >>character set. The message is garbled. Any way to fix this problem? >If you go to your Config setup (Main, then "s" then "c") and go down until >you see "character-set=", you can then insert a different one there. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03158; Wed, 25 Sep 96 07:08:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA15171 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:04:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ceddec.ceddec.com (mercury.ceddec.com [207.91.200.193]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA15166 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:04:09 -0700 Received: (from shutdown@localhost) by ceddec.ceddec.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA02508; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:04:04 -0400 Received: from deimos(207.91.200.7) by ceddec via smap (V1.3) id sma002497; Wed Sep 25 10:03:39 1996 Received: by deimos (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0v5izA-000ENbC; Tue, 24 Sep 96 21:42 EDT Date: Tue, 24 Sep 96 21:42 EDT Received: from localhost(127.0.0.1) by deimos.ceddec.com via smap (V2.0alpha) id xma006077; Tue, 24 Sep 96 21:41:58 -0400Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:41:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Zerucha Reply-To: tz@execpc.com To: Ed Greshko Cc: tz@execpc.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I stop (or increase the delay) for mailbox checkpointing? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Tom Zerucha wrote: > > > OK, I get two asterisks, so it is saving the state of the mailbox. How > > do I make it stop doing this every few minutes or so? It is really > > annoying since it will buffer keystrokes for the 10-30 seconds or more it > > takes, so I may inadvertently delete messages or worse. > > If you were using pine 3.95 you could go to setup/config and > find the following "feature": mail-check-interval... I did. But I set it to 65535, and 30000 and other numbers. It seems to work better at 3600, but it says "mail-check" and not folder checkpointing. I assume this controls both? tz@execpc.com finger tz@execpc.com for PGP key From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03500; Wed, 25 Sep 96 07:25:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA24813 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:23:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA24806 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:22:54 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 25 Sep 96 22:28:10 +0800 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:19:37 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: tz@execpc.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I stop (or increase the delay) for mailbox checkpointing? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Tom Zerucha wrote: > mail-check-interval... > > I did. But I set it to 65535, and 30000 and other numbers. > It seems to work better at 3600, but it says "mail-check" and not > folder checkpointing. I assume this controls both? No, it does not control checkpointing. Only mail-check can be set via the config. For checkpointing you need to modify the os-XXX.h file and recompile. An excerpt fromt the os-sol.h file shows: #define CHECK_POINT_TIME (7*60) /* Check point the mail file (write changes to disk) if more than CHECK_POINT_TIME seconds have passed since the first change was made. Depending on what is happening, we may wait up to three times this long, since we don't want to do the slow check pointing and irritate the user. */ #define CHECK_POINT_FREQ (12) /* Check point the mail file if there have been at least this many (status) changes to the current mail file. We may wait longer if it isn't a good time to do the checkpoint. */ Hope this is of some value.... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23145; Wed, 25 Sep 96 07:50:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA16025 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:45:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.bristol.mass.edu (phantom.bristol.mass.edu [134.241.43.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA16017 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:44:57 -0700 Received: (from rbreton@localhost) by phantom.bristol.mass.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA26362; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:45:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:45:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Breton To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID YF6IC): Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-242872533-1235398271-843662735=:26172" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---242872533-1235398271-843662735=:26172 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having troubls with my configuration setup. I seem to somehow have lost my folders and can't find them. I asked my local administrator but they didn't know what to do. So then I reported the bug to pine and they advised me to contact you. Pleaswe help me as soon as possible I need to use my email to its fullest capacity. Thank you. Richard Breton ---242872533-1235398271-843662735=:26172 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = rbreton, full = richard breton home = /home/rbreton home_dir= /home/rbreton hostname= phantom.bristol.mass.edu localdom= bristol.mass.edu userdom= NULL maildom= phantom.bristol.mass.edu cur_cntxt= cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /var/spool/mail/rbreton msgmap: tot=1, cur=1, del=1, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt220, ttyname=/dev/ttyp1, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Richard Breton user-id : rbreton inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : "" default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature global-address-book : "" address-book : RDB feature-list : auto-open-next-unread saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : No printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.9 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/rbreton/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Richard Breton folder-collections : "" global-address-book : "" address-book : RDB feature-list : auto-open-next-unread saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : No printer : attached-to-ansi last-time-prune-ques : 96.9 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---242872533-1235398271-843662735=:26172-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15465; Wed, 25 Sep 96 07:51:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA16085 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:48:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA16080 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:48:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5vC8-00038bC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 07:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Subject: Re: Problem with 'personal name'. Date: 21 Sep 1996 19:55:56 GMT Message-Id: References: Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. : Hello all, : : When I want to post a message to a newsgroup I use my personal name : which is butterfly. Usually (with the old version of pine), upon posting, : what others see when they look at my message in the index is my personal : name and the subject of the message. This time, after posting, my : personal name did not appear. Instead, it said, "To: 'newsgroup name'" : and the subject. This is actually only within pine. Your actual message shows up with "butterfly." What you are seeing is a new feature allowing you to easily identify messages you have sent. The idea is that you want to know where you sent your messages. -- Adam Myrow From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00493; Wed, 25 Sep 96 07:52:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA25321 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:48:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA25316 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:48:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5vG4-00038aC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 07:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John C. Musselman" Subject: interactive unix- 3.95 Date: 21 Sep 1996 19:44:01 -0700 Message-Id: Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. has anyone here compiled isc version 3.95? there appears to be a file missing. in the pine dir, in the makefile.isc, there is a reference to osdep/iscextra. i can't find this. it seems to be needed! HELP! -- John C. Musselman (JCM2) john@jcm.com voice direct: 602.966.0123 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04332; Wed, 25 Sep 96 07:56:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA16191 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:53:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA16186 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:53:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5vHQ-00038aC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 07:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Unix mail information (tcsh) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 12:30:49 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. Will someone send me those neat commands that I can have in my login file that show how I can have it tell me "You have new mail." AND "You have messages"? Are there other quick commands like "from" which are handy to use. I ususally use from before entering pine to save some time. Thanks, Rasheed _________________________________________________________________________ Rasheed*University of California, Irvine - Information & Computer Science A. * http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ * Baqai ***********************rasheed@poboxes.com************************ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06965; Wed, 25 Sep 96 09:09:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA27307 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:03:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA27299 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:03:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5wPe-00038cC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 09:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: PINE & POP3 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:53:26 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52al8r$1nt@sirio.cineca.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52al8r$1nt@sirio.cineca.it> On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Paolo Mattioli wrote: > Hi, > my name is Paolo Mattioli and I would like to know if Pine (Unix - > Irix 5.3 Version) could be configured to access a POP3 Server without > using sendmail. In other words I would like to delete sendmail > program, cause of security, and to receive e-mail messages from a POP3 > server. If you're using Pine 3.91 and above. Setup, Config, inbox-path, Change, change it to {server.goes.here/pop3}inbox Nathan --- Nathan Richards, aka. Sunspot on Efica MUD (telnet 195.92.35.130 4000) Also known as Xoron on IRC (Undernet, DALnet, sometimes EFNet if you're lucky) Email: nathan@phish.nether.net or bm782@torfree.net WWW: http://www.naples.net/~nfn04143/Nathan/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30200; Wed, 25 Sep 96 09:44:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA19197 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:39:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA19189 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:39:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5wv4-00038bC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 09:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: How do you set the return address? Date: 21 Sep 1996 19:33:33 GMT Message-Id: References: Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. In article , To the pine development team if they are reading this: This has got to be the Message-Id From Hell. Can't pine use an X-Mailer: header instead? While an X-Mailer header might use a bit of space, a Message-Id will use space in all follow-ups as well. Bruce G Cornelius wrote: >Thanks for your advice, Nathan, but I tried that four different ways and >couldn't get it to work. The best it would do is come up as "Reply:" on >the rich text header. I tried the following: >Reply to: >Replyto: >Replyto: Bruce Cornelius >Replyto: Bad luck. You need a hyphen: Reply-To: Bruce Cornelius Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10203; Wed, 25 Sep 96 11:06:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA00933 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:04:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA00928 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:04:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5yHS-00038bC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 11:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mihai Ibanescu Subject: Pine 3.95: problem with locking file Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:06:16 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What do I have to do to make Pine understand that I want the lok files in /tmp, and not in /var/spool/mail/xxxxxx.MyServer? I have this error every time I enter Pine and my mailbox is not empty: [Error creating/var/spool/mail/misa.lock.843667486.10412.thor.infoiasi.ro: Permission denied... I assume that I have to modify something in the sources and recompile Pine. But I don't know where. Please respond to misa@infoiasi.ro From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31505; Wed, 25 Sep 96 11:47:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA22985 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:44:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA22977 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:44:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v5yvX-00038bC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 11:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbenny Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? Date: 25 Sep 1996 04:44:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > [Tries to pour some oil on troubled waters...] > A previous poster wrote: > > > Anyway, if you go to the I(ndex) screen and type ?(help) you > > > can read a bit and find... > > > > > > SENDER: The name or email address of the sender. If you are the sender, > > > then the first recipient's name is shown here. In Newsgroups, if you are > > > the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be > > > listed. > On 25 Sep 1996, jbenny wrote: > > I had done this. Reading the help file does not explain why we do not see > > our name in the index file nor is the change mentioned in any of the > > update files. > > Ummm... agreed that the built-in help doesn't explain the "Why?" of this > feature, but you must admit that it does say "What" is done. No, I don't believe it does explain what is done to make the index file look differently in the news groups index. > As for why it doesn't explain the "Why?"... well I guess they didn't feel > the need; many, many pieces of documentation explain the "what" but rarely > the "why". Well, again, it doesn't explain the "what" or the "why" as it pertains to news groups. It does explain the "what" in the index folders that are personal to me, but not the news groups. > Perhaps the Pine Team could consider including a bit of "why" about this > feature in the built-in help given how many times the question gets asked. Yes, especially since this only began in version 3.94 and did not occur in the previous version that I and others had been using. It would also be helpful if the information appeared in the faq, which it does not. > > Perhaps you have extraordinary abilities that I don't and > > therefore you assume the righteousness to insult me and others. > Hmmm... I don't think they feel they have extraordinary abilities. > Perhaps, like myself at times, they are just fed up with having this > question asked and answered half a dozen times or so each week. Then maybe it shouldn't have been changed? > Are you (jbenny) new to this mailing list/newsgroup? No, but I have not subscribed for several months as Pine was working so smoothly, I didn't really have a need to subscribe 'til now. > If so then there is > perhaps reason for you to ask your question (although Netiquette suggests > reading past articles and "lurking" for a while before starting to post > your own). True, enough. However, one would expect to find the answer in the faq or somewhere at the Pine homepage site. While there is an abundance of wonderful information there, the situation at hand is not mentioned at all. > If you have been reading the group for a while then I'm > surprised you haven't noticed how often this question goes by :-} > > FWIW, I > > think it was a stupid change. > It depends what you mean by "change" here... Pine has always -- as far as > I recall -- behaved in this way. In the 2 years that I have been using Pine to read newsgroups and do e-mail, Pine has NOT behaved this way in the index of newsgroups. It is an unexpected behavior for me and apparently for others. > > I like features that are wysiwyg, goodness > > knows there are enough things that can go wrong in using the internet and > > newsgroups that we should be able to see what the rest of the world is > > seeing. There didn't seem to be a problem prior to version 3.94, so why > > the change? > Sorry to disagree with you but Pine 3.91 certainly behaves in this way (I > have just checked) and, if memory serves, versions all the way back to > 3.87 (the version at which I think I first encountered Pine) did likewise. We must be talking about two different things, because this is just not the case. I don't know what version I started with, but it was prior to version 3.93. Using Pine as a news reader both at the university as well as my commercial account, I can assure you that in the index of the news groups, my name appeared as did everyone else's name. If Pine had always appeared with a "To:" line in the newsgroup index, then no one would question it. If we were all new to using Pine, then we wouldn't know that it is a change. > Perhaps you've only just started using Usenet News or saving outgoing > messages and so have just noticed the effect? Yet another insult to our intelligence. Perhaps we aren't talking about the same things. Do you use Pine as a news reader. You are correct in that Pine did appear in the index of "sent-mail" this way, but not in the index of the news group. > > Because I expect, and would much prefer, that it display in the same > > manner that the other messages are displayed > > OK... the current version of Pine (3.95) allows you to change this. (Note > that this is new to 3.95 -- or possibly slightly earlier; it was > definitely missing in 3.91) > > At the Main Menu type "S" (Setup) then "C" (Configuration) and look > through the options for "index-format". Put your cursor on this entry and > type "?" to read the built-in help about it. > > Assuming you are otherwise happy with the layout of the Index screen you > can change things to as you want them by noting the default value used: > > index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROMORTO(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) > > and setting a value based very closely on this: > > index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) > > (Note the change of FROMORTO to become FROM.) I will attempt your suggested change and see what happens. I appreciate the valuable time you took to answer my inquiry. > So far from the Pine Team introducing a change which you hate, the only > change the've actually made is to let you _avoid_ the display you despise > so much :-) I don't "hate" it, but it just looks stupid. Yes, I know who wrote the message, and I know where it was posted to, but I would much prefer that the index of the newsgroup appear as it did before. [snip sig] ============================================================================= jbenny@primenet.com ============================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10870; Wed, 25 Sep 96 11:52:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA02456 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:49:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id LAA02451 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:49:56 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA25306; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:49:51 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: jshin@pantheon.yale.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attaching html file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I'm afraid I failed to make myself understood as clearly as I wished. Are you sure that you read Rudolf's reply as clearly as he wished? He gave you the solution in the information about the .mime.types file. Or are you saying that you tried that and it didn't work? -teg On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Jungshik Shin wrote: > I'm afraid I failed to make myself understood as clearly as I wished. > > > -> Problem with Pine is that there's no way to attach HTML file > > -> with Content-Type header text/html. Pine blindly put 'text/plain' > > -> in "Content-Type: " whether it's html or really plain text. > > -> > > -> > > I have this line in my ~/.mime.types: > > text/html html > > and in my ~/.mailcaps: > > text/html; netscape %s ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" > > This works for attached files with .html as suffix (pine 3.95 at linux). > > > Of course, it should work although I don't wanna invoke netscape to > display attached HTML. My solution, invoking much lighter lynx instead, > is preferrable to me. Anyway, that's NOT an issue,here. My posting is > NOT about viewing attached HTML file but about attaching HTML file(and > other file in plain text format but not text/plain. e.g. Postscript) in > Pine. Pine should put 'text/html' in Content-Type header when a file one > wanna attach is 'html' file. One easy way is determine MIME subtype by > file extension and the other is let users specify MIME type manually. > > > Jungshik Shin > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13419; Wed, 25 Sep 96 13:32:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA04962 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:29:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA04957 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:29:42 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA27218; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:29:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:29:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Gatenet Software Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remove From: from print In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Upgrade to 3.95 and then set the "print-includes-from-line" as desired. -teg On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Gatenet Software wrote: > How can i remove ther From header when a print a message? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13470; Wed, 25 Sep 96 13:34:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA05026 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:32:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA05021 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:32:11 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA02948; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:32:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:32:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Nathan Richards Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & POP3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That takes care of *accessing* mail... note that either a local sendmail or a remote SMTP server is still needed for *sending* mail. -teg On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Nathan Richards wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Paolo Mattioli wrote: > > > Hi, > > my name is Paolo Mattioli and I would like to know if Pine (Unix - > > Irix 5.3 Version) could be configured to access a POP3 Server without > > using sendmail. In other words I would like to delete sendmail > > program, cause of security, and to receive e-mail messages from a POP3 > > server. > > If you're using Pine 3.91 and above. > Setup, Config, inbox-path, Change, change it to {server.goes.here/pop3}inbox > > Nathan > > --- > Nathan Richards, aka. Sunspot on Efica MUD (telnet 195.92.35.130 4000) > Also known as Xoron on IRC (Undernet, DALnet, sometimes EFNet if you're lucky) > Email: nathan@phish.nether.net or bm782@torfree.net > WWW: http://www.naples.net/~nfn04143/Nathan/ > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01752; Wed, 25 Sep 96 13:43:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA05327 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:41:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA05322 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:41:33 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA27546; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:41:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:41:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Gatenet Software Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remove From: from print In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Upgrade to 3.95 and then set the "print-includes-from-line" as desired. ^feature > > On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Gatenet Software wrote: > > > How can i remove ther From header when a print a message? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10511; Wed, 25 Sep 96 14:11:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA06118 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:08:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA06113 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:08:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v61AB-00038eC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 14:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ruth Anne Ladue Subject: Re: Enabling the mbox driver Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:41:26 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52bt9r$8qe@unix.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 25 Sep 1996, Ruth Anne Ladue wrote: > > We are transitioning our MM users to pine, and we would like for > > the user to be able to continue to use their existing mbox files > > as INBOX. The FAQ mentions having to enable the mbox driver to > > allow this, but does not mention where the driver can be found. > > I've checked the tech notes and all the group archives, and I can > > not find any reference to where the driver can be found. Can > > someone enlighten me? > > Do you really mean "mbox files", or do you mean "mail.txt files"? > mail.txt is the native and natural format of MM. I do mean "mbox files." The "native and natural" mail.txt file was changed to mbox for reasons lost in history. Additional information: the OS is Solaris 2.5 (SunOS 5.5) on a Sun 670; the users' home directories are not NFS mounted. --Ruth Anne From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15125; Wed, 25 Sep 96 15:42:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA29495 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:40:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phish.nether.net (phish.nether.net [198.87.20.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA29490; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:40:50 -0700 Received: from phish.nether.net (nathan@phish.nether.net [198.87.20.2]) by phish.nether.net (8.8.Beta.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA07976; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:40:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:40:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Richards To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & POP3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: A small bunch of furry wombles X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Priority: 1 Precedence: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > That takes care of *accessing* mail... note that either a local sendmail > or a remote SMTP server is still needed for *sending* mail. > > -teg For an SMTP server, try mx1.cac.washington.edu. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16995; Wed, 25 Sep 96 15:52:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA09021 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:50:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA09010 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:50:55 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA00354; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:50:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:50:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Nathan Richards Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & POP3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please don't. -teg On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Nathan Richards wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > That takes care of *accessing* mail... note that either a local sendmail > > or a remote SMTP server is still needed for *sending* mail. > > > > -teg > > For an SMTP server, try mx1.cac.washington.edu. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14849; Wed, 25 Sep 96 16:05:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA09289 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:02:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phish.nether.net (phish.nether.net [198.87.20.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA09284; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:02:20 -0700 Received: from phish.nether.net (nathan@phish.nether.net [198.87.20.2]) by phish.nether.net (8.8.Beta.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA11499; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:02:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:01:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Richards To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & POP3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: A small bunch of furry wombles X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Priority: 1 Precedence: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Please don't. I was just telling you in case you didn't know. Sheesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17743; Wed, 25 Sep 96 16:20:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA09679 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:18:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phish.nether.net (phish.nether.net [198.87.20.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA09667 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:18:32 -0700 Received: from phish.nether.net (nathan@phish.nether.net [198.87.20.2]) by phish.nether.net (8.8.Beta.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA13758 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:18:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:18:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Richards To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Test please ignore Message-Id: Organization: A small bunch of furry wombles X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Priority: 1 Precedence: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17120; Wed, 25 Sep 96 16:26:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA09803 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:24:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA09798 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:24:36 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA01070; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:24:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:24:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Nathan Richards Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & POP3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Please don't. > I was just telling you in case you didn't know. > > Sheesh. Nathan, Sorry; it wasn't immediately obvious that you had confused me with the person who needed help. (I know what my smtp server address should be, and I wasn't the person who posted the original query, so I assumed your intent was to suggest to the original inquirer that they should use one of our smtp servers.) -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15657; Wed, 25 Sep 96 16:33:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA00777 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:30:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA00769; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:30:21 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 26 Sep 96 07:35:37 +0800 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 07:27:01 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Nathan Richards Cc: Terry Gray , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & POP3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Nathan Richards wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Please don't. > I was just telling you in case you didn't know. The original question concerning POP3 came from Paolo Mattioli . You'll notice that Paolo is writing from Italy. Even if mx1.cac.washington.edu was willing to act as the SMTP host for the world it would not be purdent for an individual in Italy to point to a host on the west coast of the USA as their SMTP host. But Terry is 1000% correct. Please don't point to mx1.cac.washington.edu as your SMTP host *or* any other host outside of your domain without the express written consent of the postmaster for that site. To do so may put a strain on that orgainization's facilities and is certainly in bad form. In addition, it may result in some unexpect and undesireable results. For example, if you supply underqualified addresses it is standard practice for a site to tack-on their local domain part. So, if Paolo were to send a message to the person down the hall as antony@tecno but pointed to ibm.com as the SMTP host then it is more than likely that ibm.com will try to deliver to antony@tecno.ibm.com. See the problem? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17594; Wed, 25 Sep 96 16:34:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA00819 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:32:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA00814 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:32:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v63N5-00038fC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 16:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ed Greshko" Subject: Re: hiding To: addresses Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:39:05 +0800 Message-Id: <01bbaa71.f447e780$1511b381@edspc17> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Gareth Boden wrote in article ... > Scabby writes: > > > I created a list in addressbook, but every time I use it it shows all the > > addresses on the list so the receiver has to scroll through the other > > names to get to the body of the message. Is there a way to hide that? > > Use the Bcc field. Better still....use the Lcc: field. Don't know what the Lcc: field is? Maybe it is time to upgrade to the latest version of pine? Maybe it is time to do "information research"? Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18439; Wed, 25 Sep 96 16:43:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA10127 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:39:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hestia.ccs.deakin.edu.au (hestia.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA10122 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:39:47 -0700 Received: from eros.ccs.deakin.edu.au (eros.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.2.8]) by hestia.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11322 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:39:45 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (larowlan@localhost) by eros.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.7.4/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA22372 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:39:44 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: eros.ccs.deakin.edu.au: larowlan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:39:44 +1000 (EST) From: "lee rowlands (and family)" X-Sender: larowlan@eros.ccs.deakin.edu.au To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mailbox Format Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear who ever is reading this When logging into pine i get and error message 'select failed- inbox is not in valid format' any one with any ideas on what could have caused this and how to fix it please mail jmkramer@deakin.edu.au with subject 'please pass on to Lee Rowlands' thanks Lee Rowlands (and Family) School of Engineering & Technology Deakin University, VIC Australia email- larowlan@deakin.edu.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19094; Wed, 25 Sep 96 17:11:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA01819 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:08:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from net161-61.student.yale.edu (net161-61.student.yale.edu [130.132.161.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA01811 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:08:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (jungshik@localhost) by net161-61.student.yale.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02632 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:08:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:08:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Jungshik Shin Reply-To: jshin@pantheon.yale.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attaching html file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I'm afraid I failed to make myself understood as clearly as I wished. > > > -> Problem with Pine is that there's no way to attach HTML file > > > -> with Content-Type header text/html. Pine blindly put 'text/plain' > > > -> in "Content-Type: " whether it's html or really plain text. > > > -> > > > -> > > > I have this line in my ~/.mime.types: > > > text/html html > > > and in my ~/.mailcaps: > > > text/html; netscape %s ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" > > > This works for attached files with .html as suffix (pine 3.95 at linux). > > > > > > is preferrable to me. Anyway, that's NOT an issue,here. My posting is > > NOT about viewing attached HTML file but about attaching HTML file(and > > other file in plain text format but not text/plain. e.g. Postscript) in > > Pine. Pine should put 'text/html' in Content-Type header when a file one > > wanna attach is 'html' file. One easy way is determine MIME subtype by > > file extension and the other is let users specify MIME type manually. > > Are you sure that you read Rudolf's reply as clearly as he wished? > He gave you the solution in the information about the .mime.types file. > Or are you saying that you tried that and it didn't work? Thanks a lot for poingting this out. I'm sorry I didn't know Pine refer to mime.types to determine what to write in 'Content-Type:' header when sending out attachment and accordingly didn't try adding 'text/html html' to ~/.mime.types. As I understands him, he wasn't talking about sending html attachment but about receiving and displaying it, which is not my concern because I know it works well(whether I use my script lynxpipe or netscape as he suggested) even without the line("Content-Type: text/html" in header is sufficient to convince Pine and other MIME-aware programs that it's html file and .mime.types mechanism is not necessary). Anyway,I guess my original suggestion still stands worthwhile to consider. That is, it would not be a bad idea to add option 'Allow manual Content-Type designation for attachment', which includes allowing 'charset' specification different from primary charset designated in ~/.pinerc and other configuration file. Another related issue(it's about viewing attached text/html) is the way Pine handles external viewers that need to use the same tty(terminal device : I don't know the exact term to use here) currently under control of Pine. Suppose there are following lines in ~/.mailcap where lynxpipe is a script to hand over (%s) to lynx with suffix 'html' added to the end of temporary file name. -------- text/html; xterm -e lynxpipe %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" text/html; lynxpipe %s -------- When $DISPLAY is defined(i.e. under X window), xterm is launched in which lynx runs to display text/html and everything works fine while under text-only terminal Pine doesn't release the control of 'tty'(terminal) to a external viewer and nothing happens except for that the message 'External viewer is launched' is displayed. My understanding is this is in a sense intentional for such reason as security. I wonder if there's any way to allow external viewers requiring control of the current termial device to work gracefully without compromising advantages of not doing so. I would be very grateful if Pine team could carefully consider my suggestions. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19542; Wed, 25 Sep 96 17:46:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA11437 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:44:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA11432; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:44:25 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 26 Sep 96 08:49:43 +0800 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:41:09 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Terry Gray Cc: Nathan Richards , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & POP3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > > > Please don't. > > I was just telling you in case you didn't know. > > > > Sheesh. > > Nathan, > Sorry; it wasn't immediately obvious that you had confused me with the > person who needed help. (I know what my smtp server address should be, > and I wasn't the person who posted the original query, so I assumed your > intent was to suggest to the original inquirer that they should use one of > our smtp servers.) OOOPPSS.....same goes for me. Sorry Nathan.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19829; Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:24:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA11992 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:22:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA11987 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:22:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v655Q-00038iC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: PuppyCat Subject: Re: Another Suggestion Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:17:47 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Well, the main reason I am GLAD that there is a confirm for sending messages is that ^X and ^C are right next to each other... many were the time when I hit a x when I meant c, or even more terrible, hitting c after typing in a half hour missive... I would have been extremely upset to see that letter cancelled... On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: > And I'm tired of confirming everything before I do it. > > Actually sending out a letter is not such a monumental event that it should > require a second thought (and confirmation). When I'm done with a letter, I > want to hit ^X and be done with it. > > I know that most of the "confirm before doing" options can be turned off. > Why can't we turn off all of them? > > -- > > ~~~^~ > `0^0' > (* " *) > ========ooO=U=Ooo============================ > Harry Slaughter Infoseek Corporation > harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com > 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 > --------------------------------------------- > Harry's Homepage: > http://ng.netgate.net/~harrys > Check out the best new engine on the web: > http://ultra.infoseek.com > ============================================= > > > PuppyCat@digimag.net "PuppyCat" http://ocean.st.usm.edu/~agiegler From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12084; Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:25:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA02927 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:22:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA02922 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:22:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v655P-00038gC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: PuppyCat Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:11:28 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a server that automatically marks every (more that 29 thousand) newsgroup as subscribed. When using TIN to access newsgroups, I created a seperate file and used (prompt) tin -f .real (ret) to access it... Is there either a global Unsubscribe for pine, or a way to access only the newsgroups listed in .real? Please send a copy of answers to address below, since I am having trouble with newsgroups at the moment, and may not be able to find it later... thanks PuppyCat@digimag.net "PuppyCat" http://ocean.st.usm.edu/~agiegler From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19671; Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:25:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA11985 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:22:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA11980 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:22:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v655N-00038fC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Printing from Pine 3.93 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:50:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199609221425.QAA17843@lie.matstat.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199609221425.QAA17843@lie.matstat.unit.no> On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > [Posted and mailed] > > In article , > Jago wrote: > > > >Isn't there a way to change the printing location for Pine 3.93? I went > >into Setup/Config and didn't see an option to change the location. Does > >this have to be configured on the PCs and Macs? Any information would > >be deeply appreciated. Thanks for reading. > > You want to look at Setup/Printer, not Setup/Config. Uh oh. I didn't see Printer in 3.93. Are you sure it's in that version, or is it in 3.95? -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s - MIDI, Humor, KI2, etc. } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19373; Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:25:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA02934 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:22:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA02929 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:22:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v655Z-00038jC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Printing from Pine 3.93 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:56:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199609221425.QAA17843@lie.matstat.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199609221425.QAA17843@lie.matstat.unit.no> On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: Sorry, I meant to say version 3.94. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s - MIDI, Humor, KI2, etc. } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19516; Wed, 25 Sep 96 19:59:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA13399 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:57:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA13394 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:57:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v66bS-00038fC; Wed, 25 Sep 96 19:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: displaying pine on X!! Date: 25 Sep 1996 21:13:53 GMT Message-Id: <52c7ah$b9n@due.unit.no> References: In article , Omar Butaiban wrote: > > can i display pine under xwindows ??????????// Sure, I do that all the time, in an xterm window: xterm -e pine & I've put it in a menu as well, so I don't have to write it everytime. How to do that depends on your window manager. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 21:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22096; Wed, 25 Sep 96 21:56:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA15139 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 21:49:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gruelk.stu.rpi.edu (gruelk.stu.rpi.edu [128.113.167.147]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id VAA15134 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 21:49:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (drathos@localhost) by gruelk.stu.rpi.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA01161 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 00:49:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 00:49:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Drathos To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: configuring pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi... i recently upgraded to pine 3.95 and was trying to configure it to have a reply-to in the rich header... also i want to get rif of the annoying "dead.letter" that get's created when i cancel a message... i have been using pine for a long time and have never run into that before... how can i do it? please send any responses to gruelk@rpi.edu... thanks... ,-----------------------------------------------------------------------. | ///, //// | | Drathos \ /, / / | | (drathos@gruelk.stu.rpi.edu) \ /, _/ / | | \_ /_/ / | | I watch the world go round and round \__/_ / | | And see mine turning upside down /<<< \_\ | | -Genesis (Throwing It All Away) /,)^>>_._ \ | | (/ \\ /\\\ | | May your way be green and golden... // ```` | | ((` | `-----------------------------------------------------------------------' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20867; Wed, 25 Sep 96 22:21:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA06458 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:19:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA06453 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:19:28 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 26 Sep 96 13:24:45 +0800 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:16:09 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Drathos Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: configuring pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Drathos wrote: > hi... i recently upgraded to pine 3.95 and was trying to configure it to > have a reply-to in the rich header... also i want to get rif of the > annoying "dead.letter" that get's created when i cancel a message... i > have been using pine for a long time and have never run into that > before... how can i do it? > > please send any responses to gruelk@rpi.edu... When you upgraded to 3.95, did you read the release notes??? Have you performed *any* type of "Information Research"? Did you read the past 10 days worth of traffic on this group and notice that the "Reply-To: " question has popped up several times? I gather not....since if you did you would have tripped over "quell-dead-letter-on-cancel" in the config menu. Had you performed "Information Research" you would have typed "?" and read: FEATURE: quell-dead-letter-on-cancel This feature affects Pine's behavior when you cancel a message being composed. Pine's usual behavior is to write the canceled message to a file named "dead.letter" in your home directory (under UNIX; "DEADLETR" under WINDOWS/DOS) overwriting any previous message. Under some conditions (some routine), this can introduce a noticeable delay. Setting this feature will cause Pine NOT to write canceled compositions into the file called dead.letter. NOTE: Enabling this feature means NO record of canceled messages is maintained. If you were to be more information hungry you would have found "customized-Headers". You would then have typed "?" and been presented with exactly the information you so desire..... OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. Wow....it even mentions the "Reply-To:" header by name..... Please folks....try a bit of "Information Research". You'll be glad you did. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12100; Thu, 26 Sep 96 01:23:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA08575 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:20:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA08570 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:20:40 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:15:52 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA14630; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:20:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:20:26 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ed Greshko Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: configuring pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > Please folks....try a bit of "Information Research". You'll > be glad you did. I agree with Ed ... except I think his last sentence should really read: "_We'll_ be glad you did." ;-) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24291; Thu, 26 Sep 96 01:55:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA18019 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:53:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA18014 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:53:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6CA9-00038iC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 01:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: How Do I Turn Off Vacation Msg? Date: 25 Sep 1996 00:10:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: (I also replied to your earlier note, but see that you're still in trouble.) Make _definitely_ sure that there isn't a /home/lindae/.forward file (try an "ls -a /home/lindae" to see all the files there). Definitely try "man vacation" to get the documentation. Insist on talking to a systems administrator who, if he or she doesn't know that a program is present on the system, will research the problem for you. Failing that, find a supervisor at your ISP and complain vehemently. It's a _very_ competetive market out there, and you should either convince them to help you out, or change service providers. -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24147; Thu, 26 Sep 96 01:55:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA08932 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:53:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA08927 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:53:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6C8m-00038gC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 01:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: Vacation Msg (YIKES!!) Date: 25 Sep 1996 00:05:11 -0400 Message-Id: References: lindae@mlode.com (Linda Emerson) writes: > I decided to try the "vacation" program to see if it's installed here and > guess what? Here's the message I received: > > UX: vacation: INFO: vacation notification installed > UX: vacation: INFO: logging will go to '/home/lindae/.maillog' > UX: vacation: INFO: '/usr/share/lib/mail/std_vac_msg' will be used for the > connect message > > OK, gurus, how do I get out of this one? And how can I change the > standard vacation message when I am ready to use the program? See the manual page for "vacation" for details (that is, run the command "man vacation". If you don't get a documentation page for "vacation", then scream loudly at your ISP that they must install the Unix manual pages. If they refuse, change ISP). There is now probably a file ".vacation.msg" in your home directory that you can edit as you see fit. The actual invocation of vacation is controlled by the presence and contents of a file ".forward" in your home directory containing a single line, something like: \lindae, "|/usr/ucb/vacation lindae" If you delete or move that file (say, to "..forward"), then the "vaction" function will cease. -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24237; Thu, 26 Sep 96 01:55:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA08939 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:53:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA08934 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:53:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6CBc-00038jC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 01:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eliezer Lerner Subject: Help: PC-UNIX site Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:17:10 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am sure my questions are not new, but I still haven't received any answers on them. If somebody can help me, please send a response directly to my mailbox. We have a site with ~70 UNIX machines & ~90 PCs (NT and 95). All PCs have NFS client. Our mail-server is UNIX computer (all mailboxes are resident on its disk). I want to configure Pine 3.95 to enable all users of the site to use it. Two major problems: 1. How can I share global address book between UNIXs and PCs. There is no problem for UNIXs. But how to export the same address book for PCs? I even accept a solution of different (not UNIX) but still a single one global address book for all PCs. 2. Any notification for new mail in Windows 95|NT, while pine is iconed. Without this I can't convince our PC users to use Pine. Best regards, +================================================================+ |Eliezer Lerner,| Email: eli1@cimatron.co.il| 11 Gush Etzion St.,| |System Admin, | Phone: +972-3-5312127 | Givat Shmuel, | |Cimatron | Fax: +972-3-5312192 | 51905, Israel | +================================================================+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22313; Thu, 26 Sep 96 02:10:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA18180 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:08:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA18175 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:08:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6CQG-00038jC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 02:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Bug (ID YF6IC): Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:42:18 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It looks like you have reset your folder-collections to "". Change it back to "mail/[]" (or whatever it was before) and restart Pine... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 25 Sep 1996, Richard Breton wrote: > From: Richard Breton > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Bug (ID YF6IC): > Date: 25 Sep 1996 07:51:39 -0700 > Organization: PSGnet mail to news gate > Sender: nobody@psg.com > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.psg.com > X-M2n: psg.com > > > I am having troubls with my configuration setup. I seem to somehow have > lost my folders and can't find them. I asked my local administrator but > they didn't know what to do. So then I reported the bug to pine and they > advised me to contact you. Pleaswe help me as soon as possible I need to > use my email to its fullest capacity. Thank you. > > > Richard Breton From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24653; Thu, 26 Sep 96 02:35:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA09333 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:33:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA09328 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:33:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6Cmq-00038gC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 02:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmiller@ccs.carleton.ca (Jane Miller) Subject: Obscure bug in pine 3.95 Date: 25 Sep 1996 20:04:40 GMT Message-Id: <52c38o$b0o@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> I have noticed a bug in pc-pine 3.95, when running it under Windows 3.1, and I would like to find a solution. This is how to reproduce the bug: - Edit the pinerc file, adding "disable-keymenu" to the feature-list. - Get into pine, select a message and select "Export" from the "Message" menu. - Select "To Files". - Then select "Cancel". - The error message is: " An error has occurred in your application. If you choose Ignore, you should save your work in a new file. If you choose Close, your application wil terminate." - Your choices are: "Close" or "Ignore" I have the source code. If anyone has a clue about where to look in the source code to fix this bug, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Jane -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Jane Miller, Senior Analyst | Phone: (613) 520-2600 ext.2506 Computing & Communications Services | Carleton University, | Email: jmiller@ccs.carleton.ca 1125 Colonel By Drive, | postmaster@chat.carleton.ca Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 5B6 | URL: http://www.carleton.ca/~jmiller -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 03:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23681; Thu, 26 Sep 96 03:21:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA09781 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 03:18:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA09776 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 03:18:09 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA17131; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:40:22 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa04371; 26 Sep 96 11:36 WET Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:37:19 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering Reply-To: Richard Gering To: jshin@pantheon.yale.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: MIME viewers on terminals (Was: attaching html file) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Jungshik Shin wrote: [ snip ] > Suppose there are following lines in ~/.mailcap where > lynxpipe is a script to hand over (%s) to lynx with suffix > 'html' added to the end of temporary file name. > > -------- > text/html; xterm -e lynxpipe %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" > text/html; lynxpipe %s > -------- > > When $DISPLAY is defined(i.e. under X window), xterm is launched in > which lynx runs to display text/html and everything works fine while > under text-only terminal Pine doesn't release the control of > 'tty'(terminal) to a external viewer and nothing happens except for that > the message 'External viewer is launched' is displayed. My understanding > is this is in a sense intentional for such reason as security. I wonder > if there's any way to allow external viewers requiring control of the > current termial device to work gracefully without compromising > advantages of not doing so. If, as you say, the program needs control of the terminal you should specify the option "needsterminal" in your mailcap file. So, change your entry for plain terminals into: text/html; lynxpipe %s; needsterminal With this option is specified, Pine will close its tty drivers and give complete control to the external viewer for the time that program runs. After the viewer has terminated, Pine will take back control of the tty. Hope this helps! Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26127; Thu, 26 Sep 96 06:19:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA20884 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:15:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA20879 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:15:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6GDO-00038lC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 06:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Enabling the mbox driver Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:55:36 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52bt9r$8qe@unix.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52bt9r$8qe@unix.sri.com> On 25 Sep 1996, Ruth Anne Ladue wrote: > We are transitioning our MM users to pine, and we would like for > the user to be able to continue to use their existing mbox files > as INBOX. The FAQ mentions having to enable the mbox driver to > allow this, but does not mention where the driver can be found. > I've checked the tech notes and all the group archives, and I can > not find any reference to where the driver can be found. Can > someone enlighten me? Do you really mean "mbox files", or do you mean "mail.txt files"? mail.txt is the native and natural format of MM. Pine supports mail.txt files automatically. However, Pine does database-type access to mail.txt files (this is different from MM); it's faster than MM and allows multiple instances of Pine to have the same file open, but at the cost of not working over NFS. Locking and simultaneous read/write access does't work over NFS. So if your users' home directories are NFS-mounted, you should have them use IMAP to the machine which actually holds the real disk. NFS is not really a filesystem, and should not be used to export mail. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 07:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26084; Thu, 26 Sep 96 07:03:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA12341 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:59:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lgsx01.lg.ehu.es (lgsx01.lg.ehu.es [158.227.2.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA12333 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:59:34 -0700 Received: from lgdx02.lg.ehu.es by lgsx01.lg.ehu.es (4.1/4.7 ) id AA17404; Thu, 26 Sep 96 15:58:57 +0100 Received: by lgdx02.lg.ehu.es (5.65/4.7) id AA05670; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:06:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:06:58 +0100 (WET DST) From: Nieves Pena Cerezo X-Sender: lgbpecem@lgdx02 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A BIT PROBLEM... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1404610007-843738434=:26916" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1404610007-843738434=:26916 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: PLEASE ANSWER ME.... I`m a user of your program PINE. This is a good programm but I have had a bit problem with this the last days. I`m going to relate that. If you are in the LIST FOLDERS, you can create diferents folders, but if you have very diferents folders, sometimes could be necesary the creating of some folders whose contens was others folthers as directorys in a UNIX machine. I hope you can understand me, in this case I wish you can answer me with the exact reason about why you don`t do this or if you are planing do this in the next version of PINE. Thanks very very very .... much. Nieves (lgbpecem@lg.ehu.es) CIDIR. --0-1404610007-843738434=:26916 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = lgbpecem, full = Maria Nieves Pena Cerezo home = /usuarios/lgbpecem home_dir= /usuarios/lgbpecem hostname= lgdx02 localdom= lgdx02 userdom= lg.ehu.es maildom= lg.ehu.es cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= INBOX msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt200, ttyname=/dev/ttyr5, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Nieves Pena Cerezo user-id : lgbpecem user-domain : lg.ehu.es smtp-server : "" nntp-server : news.lg.ehu.es inbox-path : INBOX folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : *{news.lg.ehu.es/nntp}[] default-fcc : enviados postponed-folder : pospuestos mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : leidos signature-file : .signature global-address-book : direcciones address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set : signature-at-bottom saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : lg.ehu.es printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.9 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/usuarios/lgbpecem/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Nieves Pena Cerezo user-domain : lg.ehu.es smtp-server : "" nntp-server : news.lg.ehu.es inbox-path : INBOX folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : enviados postponed-folder : pospuestos read-message-folder : leidos global-address-book : direcciones feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set : signature-at-bottom use-only-domain-name : lg.ehu.es last-time-prune-ques : 96.9 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --0-1404610007-843738434=:26916-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27666; Thu, 26 Sep 96 08:21:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA22835 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:16:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sma.usna.navy.MIL (math3.sma.usna.navy.mil [128.56.49.120]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA22820 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:16:21 -0700 Received: from math5.sma.usna.navy.MIL by sma.usna.navy.MIL (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00229; Thu, 26 Sep 96 11:16:04 EDT Received: from c350.sma.usna.navy.mil by math5.sma.usna.navy.MIL (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18948; Thu, 26 Sep 96 11:15:54 EDT Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:12:57 -0400 () From: Cheryl Thuot To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: cthuot@math5.sma.usna.navy.MIL Subject: Spell Checker for PC-Pine 3.95 Message-Id: X-X-Sender: cthuot@math5.sma.usna.navy.MIL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for a spell checker for PC-Pine 3.95. I've tried the web sites documented in the release notes but the links do not work. Specifically, I've tried ftp://oak.oakland/SimTel/win3/wp and http://clever.net/quinion/spell/Where.htm. Does anyone know where I might find this? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28081; Thu, 26 Sep 96 08:26:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA13849 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:24:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA13844 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:24:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6IDa-00038mC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 08:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: The "+" sign Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:17:17 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Gregg Tate wrote: > OK, everyone, I'm stupid and probably deserve to be flamed, but what does > the "+" sign to the left of a message mean?? It's a reasonable question. It means the message was specifically addressed to you instead of to a list. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18014; Thu, 26 Sep 96 09:00:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA23929 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:55:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA23924 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:55:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6Igz-00038mC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 08:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anq4@ie.cuhk.hk (Qin An) Subject: [Q] about address book Message-Id: <52ds6v$5bd@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> Date: 26 Sep 1996 12:16:31 GMT Hello, I have a question. Can I make aliases for a group of friends in address book? Why when I type their email addresses PINE said comma is not allowed between two email addresses, and white space is also not allowed. Please tell me how to type the email addresses. Thank you in advance. Qin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30295; Thu, 26 Sep 96 09:22:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA15449 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:19:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA15444 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:19:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6J7A-00038nC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 09:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mitch Baltuch Subject: INBOX error Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:49:26 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, We are running pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.5 and having a recurring problem. One or more times a day, pine complains of an INBOX access error, which can only be cleared by killing and restarting pine. It started as we moved our users over to CDE. I have eliminated the AMD automounter as the cause, and we have tried a number of kernel patches that we thought might help. Unfortunately, nothing seems to work. Anyone else having this problem, or does anyone have a solution? Thanks, Mitch _______________________________________________________________________________ Mitchell S. Baltuch Unidata Program Center Software Engineer Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research mitch@unidata.ucar.edu WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/ Java Resource Page: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/mitch/java.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26627; Thu, 26 Sep 96 09:28:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA24788 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:25:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA24783 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:25:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6JDy-00038mC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 09:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: [Q] about address book Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:59:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52ds6v$5bd@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52ds6v$5bd@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> On 26 Sep 1996, Qin An wrote: > I have a question. Can I make aliases for a group of friends > in address book? Why when I type their email addresses PINE > said comma is not allowed between two email addresses, and > white space is also not allowed. Please tell me how to type > the email addresses. I find this unusual, because I do not have any problems with sending messages to multiple recipients on the From: by separating each address with a commaa followed by a space. (I am using version 3.94.) But in answer to your question, yes, you can set up aliases for whole groups of address and enter only the alias on the From:, Cc:, Bcc:, or Lcc: lines of the message header. Just go into the address book and read the online help screens. It's all explained there. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31280; Thu, 26 Sep 96 10:44:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA17699 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:40:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA17694 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:40:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6KKb-00038mC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 10:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: send 8bit text without encode? Date: 26 Sep 1996 15:36:48 GMT Message-Id: References: <52dqtn$5bd@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Qin An wrote: >I'd like send 8bit text (other languages mixed with English) in PINE >without any encode, neither base64 nor quoted-printable. But I can't >find how to config PINE to do that. Is it possible in PINE? No it is not, and that seems to be due the Pine team's deliberate policy regarding 8-bit. I asked the same question as you in a local Finnish newgroup, and got an answer with the following material: http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.04/msg00433.html > > On 19 Apr 1995, Ulrich Windl wrote: > > > In an elder PINE you could use charset = ASCII, and PINE would not touch the > > 8-bit characters. Only if you use ISO Latin-1 Pine converts characters. > > > Official answer: > > Pine is based on, and tries hard to adhere to, Internet mail standards. > Current Internet mail standards do not permit sending unencoded 8bit > characters except when an 8bit connection has been negotiated via ESMTP. > > Unfortunately, not eveyone agrees with the current Internet standards. There > are areas in the world where it is considered acceptable to violate the > standards and "just send 8" even without a negotiated 8bit connection. > Regrettably, a few have even created "outlaw" versions of Pine that violate > the standard, but no official version of Pine has ever done so. (At > least not intentionally.) > > Version 3.92 will support negotiated 8bit connections via ESMTP's > 8BITMIME construct. > > -teg -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi University of Helsinki * Nordica / Institute of literature From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08613; Thu, 26 Sep 96 12:15:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA21033 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:12:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com (wolfe.wimsey.com [204.191.160.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA21028 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:12:09 -0700 Received: from zeus by wolfe.wimsey.com with uucp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #13) id m0v6Lqy-000UEIC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 19:12 GMT Received: from localhost by travelgold.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22375; Thu, 26 Sep 96 11:43:30 PDT Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:43:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "(TSI)Ty Haeber" X-Sender: thae@zeus To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Why is my .addressbook ReadOnly? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently installed pine v3.95 on our SunOS machine. When I try to modify the global addressbook, it is flagged as ReadOnly. The setting in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf is.... global-address-book=/usr/local/sun1/pine3.89/.addressbook The file has the correct permissions (666). Am I missing something? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Ty Haeber Travel Underwriters Richmond, B.C. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08731; Thu, 26 Sep 96 12:37:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA00771 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:29:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA00766 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:29:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6M5g-00038nC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 12:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: serena.ng@bc.edu Subject: deleting messages every 30 days Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:57:26 GMT Message-Id: <525q0g$dje@delphi.bc.edu> Hi Pine 3.95 is deleting my messages every month automatically. Can someone tell me how to disable this? Many thanks serena.ng@bc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10452; Thu, 26 Sep 96 12:54:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA01389 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:52:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id MAA01384 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:52:05 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA18698; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:51:47 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:51:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mitch Baltuch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: INBOX error In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mitch, Are you using IMAP or local access to the INBOXes? -teg On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Mitch Baltuch wrote: > Hi, > > We are running pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.5 and having a recurring problem. > One or more times a day, pine complains of an INBOX access error, which > can only be cleared by killing and restarting pine. It started as we > moved our users over to CDE. I have eliminated the AMD automounter as the > cause, and we have tried a number of kernel patches that we thought might > help. Unfortunately, nothing seems to work. Anyone else having this > problem, or does anyone have a solution? > > Thanks, > Mitch > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Mitchell S. Baltuch Unidata Program Center > Software Engineer Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research > mitch@unidata.ucar.edu WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/ > Java Resource Page: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/mitch/java.html > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29471; Thu, 26 Sep 96 13:03:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA22424 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:01:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wcfields.unidata.ucar.edu (wcfields.unidata.ucar.edu [128.117.140.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA22419; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:01:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (mitch@localhost) by wcfields.unidata.ucar.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08944; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:01:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: wcfields.unidata.ucar.edu: mitch owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:01:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Mitch Baltuch To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: INBOX error In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Mitch, > Are you using IMAP or local access to the INBOXes? We are not using IMAP. We are running on Sparc10's using sendmail. Mitch _______________________________________________________________________________ Mitchell S. Baltuch Unidata Program Center Software Engineer Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research mitch@unidata.ucar.edu WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/ Java Resource Page: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/mitch/java.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12532; Thu, 26 Sep 96 13:37:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA23426 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:34:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA23420 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:34:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6N4l-00038nC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 13:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Multiple recipients: how does Pine do it? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:05:39 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine offers several choices for sending mail to multiple recipients - comma-delimited lists in to To:, Cc:, Bcc:, and Lcc: fields. When I am sending out such a message, the mail system must, at some point, determine who is going to receive a copy of this message. How is this done? I can only imagine that Pine, or our local mailer daemon, create an 'envelope' for every recipient, put a copy of my message into this envelope (stripping off fields libe Bcc: or Lcc:), and send this to its destination. The recipient's mailer daemon, on the other hand, opens the envelope and puts the letter into the respective mailbox. Am I wrong? (Just curious) Thanks, - Hans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12603; Thu, 26 Sep 96 14:43:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA04515 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:39:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA04507 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:39:36 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 27 Sep 96 05:44:49 +0800 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 05:36:13 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Hans Schleichert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple recipients: how does Pine do it? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Hans Schleichert wrote: > Pine offers several choices for sending mail to multiple recipients - > comma-delimited lists in to To:, Cc:, Bcc:, and Lcc: fields. When I am > sending out such a message, the mail system must, at some point, determine > who is going to receive a copy of this message. How is this done? I can > only imagine that Pine, or our local mailer daemon, create an 'envelope' > for every recipient, put a copy of my message into this envelope > (stripping off fields libe Bcc: or Lcc:), and send this to its > destination. The recipient's mailer daemon, on the other hand, opens the > envelope and puts the letter into the respective mailbox. > > Am I wrong? (Just curious) Not wrong......just close. pine is a UA (user agent). It will call a program (quite often sendmail) known as an (message transport agent) to perform the transportation of the message. You are correct that an envelope is formed. There is no reall stripping however. When pine builds the message it will not create a Bcc: header in the message headers. However, when it calls the MTA it will give the MTA a receipient list which includes the Bcc: info. The "header" and "envelope" receipients are generally kept apart. Hope this helps.... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10362; Thu, 26 Sep 96 14:50:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA25506 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:47:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA25498 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:47:06 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 27 Sep 96 05:52:24 +0800 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 05:43:48 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Holger Lillqvist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: send 8bit text without encode? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Sep 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > Qin An wrote: > >I'd like send 8bit text (other languages mixed with English) in PINE > >without any encode, neither base64 nor quoted-printable. But I can't > >find how to config PINE to do that. Is it possible in PINE? > > No it is not, and that seems to be due the Pine team's deliberate policy > regarding 8-bit. I asked the same question as you in a local Finnish > newgroup, and got an answer with the following material: > > > http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.04/msg00433.html [snip] > > Version 3.92 will support negotiated 8bit connections via ESMTP's > > 8BITMIME construct. pine is now at 3.95 and as the link promised......8bit is possible when ESMTP support is available.... An excerpt from the help menu (after doing "Information Reasearch" :-) ) shows: FEATURE: enable-8bit-to-smtp-server This feature affects Pine's behavior when sending mail. Internet standards require that all electronic mail messages traversing the global Internet consist of 7bit ASCII characters unless a pair of cooperating mail transfer agents explicitly agree to allow 8bit messages. In general, then, exchanging messages in non-ASCII characters requires MIME encoding. However, there are now Internet standards that allow for unencoded 8bit exchange of messages between cooperating systems. Setting this feature tells Pine to try to negotiate unencoded 8bit transmission during the sending process. Should the negotiation fail, Pine will fall back to its ordinary encoding rules. Note, this feature relies on your system's mail transport agent or configured "smtp-server" having the negotiation mechanism introduced in "Extended SMTP" (ESMTP) and the specific extension called "8BITMIME". Hope this helps..... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15161; Thu, 26 Sep 96 15:12:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA05306 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:10:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from boisdarc.tamu-commerce.edu (boisdarc.etsu.edu [165.95.92.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA05300 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:10:39 -0700 Received: by boisdarc.tamu-commerce.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA07738; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:06:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:06:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Chevy Vulchev To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII dudes, I can't get any meaningful printed output, other than print screen. What I get is one page of widely spaced highly variable, useless text. The reason I am contacting you is that I can't get anyone to listen to me here. Please help if you can. The chevmeister P.S. go dawgs, maul noted dames! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15274; Thu, 26 Sep 96 15:27:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA05690 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:25:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA05680 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:25:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6Oqm-00038nC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 15:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: How Do I Turn Off Vacation Msg? In-Reply-To: lindae@mlode.com's message of 24 Sep 1996 01: 54:27 -0700 Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:24:32 GMT In article lindae@mlode.com (Linda Emerson) writes: Someone suggested that I delete the file in my home directory called .forward in order to reverse the auto-generated vacation msg. I tried this and received the message that the file doesn't exist. I've contacted the sysadmin at my ISP but he claimed that he didn't even know the program existed! Hmm. Look in /etc/sendmail.cf (possibly /usr/lib/sendmail.cf or even elsewhere) for a line that starts with "OJ" or "O ForwardPath=" for other locations where a .forward file might be living. Specifically, this line should give a colon-delimited list of pathnames for potential .forward files. Probably there are some abbreviations: $z for your home directory, and $w for your hostname (unqualfied by its domain name -- no dots). If you find such a .forward file, I would suggest renaming it rather than deleting it, e.g. mv .forward.myhost .forward.myhost.DISABLED or at least to read and record its contents before deleting it. That way you'll know if it was really behind your autoresponses. Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15644; Thu, 26 Sep 96 15:49:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA27098 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:45:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA27093 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:45:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6P9Q-00038oC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 15:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problem with my e-mail Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:12:03 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 24 Sep 1996, Mary Monroe (chip?) wrote: > > > For some reason I am able to recieve e-mail, but not able to send it. I > > ws given this e-mail address if I had any problems. Please if you know > > what is going on get back in touch with me. > > For starters, comp.mail.pine is not an email address. It is the > name of a newsgroup. I am not being picky -- there really is a > difference, both practically and technically. If this were an email > address and you weren't able to send email, we could not have seen your > message, could we? :-) If you look closer at the headers of her message, it looks like it passed through the pine-info=>comp.mail.pine gateway at psg.com. Thus she apparently did send her message via e-mail... > From your message header, it appears that you are using Pine > version 3.95, although it is always nice to have that confirmed. (That > information is very important.) I do not recognize an apparent system > designator of "GSO." What operating system are you using? GSO is the port for Solaris using the GCC compiler (as opposed to the Solaris compiler). > What version? What kind of hardware? What mail transfer agent is > involved? (Sendmail? Some other? What version?) Most importantly > of all, when you try to send mail, *exactly* what happens? What > kind of error message pops up? How do you know and why do you say > that you cannot send mail? All good questions..... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12599; Thu, 26 Sep 96 17:32:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA29728 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:30:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA29723 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:30:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6QoR-00038oC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 17:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gregg Tate Subject: The "+" sign Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:20:36 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK, everyone, I'm stupid and probably deserve to be flamed, but what does the "+" sign to the left of a message mean?? Really dumb guy gregg@computate.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17078; Thu, 26 Sep 96 17:33:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA08818 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:30:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA08812 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:30:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6QoM-00038nC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 17:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "James T. Plath" Subject: Help: Win95 & Pine Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:44:17 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've looked through the various FAQs, checked the man entries, but no luck. I hope someone on this list can help with what is probably an easy problem. I'm setting up several new win95 systems, and have them all configured. The problem is when I try to run pine (through a Netscape telnet connection), I get the error message "Your terminal, of type 'ansi', is lacking functions needed to run pine." Now when I run pine through a winqvt terminal connection, everything works just fine. So what's wrong with my non-qvt configuration that is giving this error? Thanks for any and all help. /James T. Plath /jtp11@columbia.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17582; Thu, 26 Sep 96 18:27:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA09745 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:25:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA09740 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:25:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6Rfc-00038nC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 18:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yeh@netcom.com (Zhenghao Yeh) Subject: Broadcasting emails Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:45:54 GMT Hi! Expert, How can I send broadcasting emails? I have a list of my friends, I want to send the same email to all of them with one address on each mail header. What I mean is that there shouldn't be all the addresses in the header? Can pine do that? Thanks. - Yeh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18399; Thu, 26 Sep 96 18:37:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA09924 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:35:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA09919 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:35:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6RoC-00038oC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 18:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: space for rent Subject: Re: bounce Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:44:13 CST Message-Id: References: <525jbf$sge@ratatosk.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: yes. just hit b. also I am usually sending to someone I have in my addressbook and I usually just type their nickname in. It supplies the email address. On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, PuppyCat wrote: > Hmm... that has to be useful. is it abailable in 3.91? I dont see it... > > > On 23 Sep 1996, Kjell Andresen wrote: > > > Forwards a message keeping original sender and adding resent-headers. > > Try to bounce a message from sombody to yurself and watch the result! > > > > -Kjell > > > > -- > > > > > > puppycat@digimag.net (secondary address: agiegler@ocean.st.usm.edu) > http://ocean.st.usm.edu/~agiegler "PuppyCat" > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18975; Thu, 26 Sep 96 18:37:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA00856 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:35:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA00851 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:35:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6Rny-00038nC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 18:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: space for rent Subject: Re: Bouncing mail to newsgroups? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:46:50 CST Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I have tried forwarding to newsgroups but don't know how. What I usually do is reply back. If I want to take something off one newsgroup and repost it to another group I hit reply then change the name of the group with the name of the new group before sending. I don't know any other way. On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Nathan Richards wrote: > On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Mentor Cana wrote: > > > Is it possible to bounce selected messages to a newsgroup? > Er...nope, you can forward them though. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19701; Thu, 26 Sep 96 19:22:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA01532 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:20:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA01527 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:20:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6STR-00038nC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 19:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aalston@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (ALSTON) Subject: pine {ansi color} Date: 26 Sep 1996 21:08:20 -0500 Message-Id: <52fcuk$q99@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> I've been receiving forwarded msgs that have colored and/or flashing text. I've asked everywhere, how this is done, but no one seems to know. All I know is that it has something to do with CHARACTER COMMANDS. Is there anyone out there with a list of commands or a suggestion as to where I could look for them? Arthur aalston@s-cwis.unomaha.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19797; Thu, 26 Sep 96 20:23:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA11393 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:20:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.135]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id UAA11388 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:20:31 -0700 Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu (kessler@rac1.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.101]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.8.0/8.8.Gamma.0) with ESMTP id XAA00180 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kessler@localhost) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08971 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:20:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac1.wam.umd.edu: kessler owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:20:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "David M. Kessler" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a problem with pine. I subscribed to the newsgroup alt.baldspot, and it didn't work, so I tried it again 3 more times, and it worked the third time. Now I "?alt.baldspot" shows up on my screen 3 times, and I can't delete them. I've tried unsubscribing them, but everytime I go back onto pine they come back. Can you help? Thanx, David Kessler University of Maryland kessler@wam.umd.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Kessler BS''D 14 Fraternity Row College Park, MD 20740 (301) 314-5359 http://www.wam.umd.edu/~kessler From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17068; Thu, 26 Sep 96 21:00:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA02697 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:57:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id UAA02692 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:56:58 -0700 Received: from dana.ucc.nau.edu (dana.ucc.nau.edu) by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-6 #2384) id <01I9Y5EQ550GQPX94B@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:56:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (pas2@localhost) by dana.ucc.nau.edu (8.7.1/2.12b-nau) with SMTP id UAA02970 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:56:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:56:50 -0700 (MST) From: "Patricia A. Smith" Subject: help To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT my time is off when ever I send mail. I have been told the time is wrong. The time right now is 8:56. Please help me if you can. Tricia XOXOXOXOXOX XOXOXOXOXOX OXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO OXOXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOXOOXO XOXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOOXOXOXOOXOXOOXO OXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOOXOXOXOXOX OXOXOXOXOOXOXOOXOXOOXOOXO XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX OXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOX XOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOOXOXO XOXOXOXOX XOXOX From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31411; Thu, 26 Sep 96 21:20:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA02996 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:18:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com ([129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA02991 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:18:00 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 27 Sep 96 12:23:17 +0800 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:14:40 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: ALSTON Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine {ansi color} In-Reply-To: <52fcuk$q99@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Sep 1996, ALSTON wrote: > I've been receiving forwarded msgs that have colored and/or flashing > text. I've asked everywhere, how this is done, but no one seems to know. > All I know is that it has something to do with CHARACTER COMMANDS. Is > there anyone out there with a list of commands or a suggestion as to > where I could look for them? This is *highly* discouraged. It is done with control characters. The "problem" is that not all displays react the same to those control characters. Some will turn a person's screen into garbage which will require a POMC (Power On Master Clear) to fix. So, be kind to your fellow human. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21427; Thu, 26 Sep 96 21:23:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA12143 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:21:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com ([129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA12138 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:21:00 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 27 Sep 96 12:26:18 +0800 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:17:41 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Patricia A. Smith" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Patricia A. Smith wrote: > my time is off when ever I send mail. I have been told the time is wrong. > The time right now is 8:56. Please help me if you can. Well, your date line showed: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:56:50 -0700 (MST) So, if you are in the Mountain Standard Timezone....and if it is starting to get dark outside.....then you time shows 8:56PM. Sounds about right to me.. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20984; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:33:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA04828 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA04823 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:30:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6WN0-00038qC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Chris O'Donoghue" Subject: Re: header question Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:49:48 +1200 Message-Id: <3247221C.41C67EA6@nelson.planet.org.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scabby wrote: > > I have a mailing list for a club here at school. The problem is that when > I do a mailing, the other students have to scroll through all the > addresses of the other members. Is there a way to suppress this? I have > been all through the configuration and can't find one. Thanks for any help. > > === Rob Try setting rich headers. ^R in the headers section. and put the list in the bcc: field. This will make the list invisible to the recipients. Chris -- Chris O'Donoghue | Coordinator PlaNet (NZ) Nelson PO Box 3261 | Richmond, 7031 | Ph +64-3-5449009 New Zealand | Fax +64-3-5449008 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21317; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:34:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA14073 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA14068 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6WNC-00038uC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (NDIAYE Amadou) Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy Date: 24 Sep 1996 02:03:33 GMT Message-Id: <527fhl$dpg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <526q36$k4@news.ececs.uc.edu> Un jour, Jie Yuan (yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | In article , | mccoy@wombat.eng.fsu.edu ("Kirk D. Mccoy") writes: |> Is there a such thing as BCC? |> How do I use it? | Pine has a "bounce" command which seems to be what you want. You need to | enable "bounce" in order to use it when you read mails. It is time to | go through the setup-configureation once again ... :-) I think he means that Bcc: is not visible in the headers. In the header section, hit ^R to get the rich headers. HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ En amour, il importe seulement de ne pas paraître plus sot qu'on ne le devient. -- K. Kraus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22224; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:34:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA14059 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:30:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA14053 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:30:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6WMw-00038pC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (NDIAYE Amadou) Subject: Re: The "+" sign Date: 24 Sep 1996 01:56:24 GMT Message-Id: <527f48$dpg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Gregg Tate (gtate@intr.net) affirmait publiquement que: | OK, everyone, I'm stupid and probably deserve to be flamed, but what | does the "+" sign to the left of a message mean?? Message was addressed to you and not to a mailing-list, or you got a Bcc or whatever comes to your mind :-) HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ En amour, il importe seulement de ne pas paraître plus sot qu'on ne le devient. -- K. Kraus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22882; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:34:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA14066 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA14061 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6WN1-00038sC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine hangs (was Re: Version 3.95 Buggy Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:01:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: <51uob2$j8k@lendl.cc.emory.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <51uob2$j8k@lendl.cc.emory.edu> On 20 Sep 1996, Steve Pittard wrote: > I don't have out and out hangs but upon closing a modified INBOX, I notice > that Pine 3.95 takes longer to close out than previous versions. > The mailboxes are NFS mounted. We are > running under sol 2.5 on a SC 2000. Expunges take the longest. A truss > against the PID reveals that the modified malbox is getting written > back to disk(with writev). For an INBOX of about 300 messages (our users > are lazy about cleaning up), the write back takes about 20 -25 seconds. That isn't an artifact of 3.95; every version of Pine has done that. You shouldn't be using NFS for exporting mail from one machine to the other. Use IMAP instead. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22813; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:35:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA14080 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA14075 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6WNH-00038wC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@poseidon.physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: Forwarding to a WWW-Page? Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 11:32:13 -0400 Message-Id: References: <32382108.41C6@uni-hohenheim.de> <519v3o$8ql@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. William Burrow wrote: > Yes, the famous Unix (or any system running sendmail, really) .foward > file will do this and more for you. If, for example, you wanted to run a > program that pages you whenever you receive, mail, you can get the > .forward file to do this for you as well. > > Unfortunately, I forget the syntax used in the .forward file for more > complex actions, and I cannot find this info with a couple hours > searching for it. try "|command" as a .forward file. Command should better be the full path of the command/program/script you want to execute. Now you need some script that extracts the information from the incoming mail and accesses the site via a http connection, freeding it with the relevant information in a format it expects. -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11719; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:35:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA04842 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA04837 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6WNF-00038vC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (NDIAYE Amadou) Subject: Re: help me please... Date: 24 Sep 1996 02:01:19 GMT Message-Id: <527fdf$dpg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Denisse Luna Garza (al787282@rs3.facpya.uanl.mx) affirmait publiquement que: | ... but, I don't know which is the problem, all the messages that send | are back, my local support either know what happen and I need to | comunicate to my family some things ... what can i do ? A lot of thing could have happened. Maybe their server is down. Until it's up again, you could call them :-) HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ En amour, il importe seulement de ne pas paraître plus sot qu'on ne le devient. -- K. Kraus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23271; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:35:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA04835 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA04830 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:31:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6WN3-00038tC; Thu, 26 Sep 96 23:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: butterfly Subject: Problem with 'personal name'. Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:14:48 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. Hello all, When I want to post a message to a newsgroup I use my personal name which is butterfly. Usually (with the old version of pine), upon posting, what others see when they look at my message in the index is my personal name and the subject of the message. This time, after posting, my personal name did not appear. Instead, it said, "To: 'newsgroup name'" and the subject. Could you please tell me how to configure my account so that when I post a message my personal name appears again. Thank you, Helen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24707; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:43:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA06539 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:41:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA06534 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:41:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6YQk-00038BC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adm_oaep@mozart.inet.co.th (Wasu Srisanan) Subject: Re: bounce Date: 25 Sep 1996 22:00:05 GMT Message-Id: <52ca15$82k@chopin.inet.co.th> References: PuppyCat (puppycat@kamper.digimag.net) wrote: | excuse the ignorance here.. but what does bounce do? -- Bounce: re-mail message to correct recipient The bounce (B) command allows you to re-send, or "remail", a message, as if you were never in the loop. It is analogous to crossing out your address on a postal letter, writing a different address on the envelope, and putting it into the mailbox. Bounce is used primarily to redirect email which was sent to you in error. Also, some owners of email lists need the bounce command to handle list traffic. The presence or absence of the Bounce command is determined by the "enable-bounce-cmd" feature-list option in your Pine configuration. Note that Bounce may be administratively disabled by your system manager; if it doesn't work, please check with your local help desk before reporting a bug. -Vasu vasu@oaep.go.th From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24684; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:43:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA15751 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:41:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA15746 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:41:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6YRz-00038jC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: PINE reply Date: 25 Sep 1996 21:04:11 GMT Message-Id: <52c6ob$b49@due.unit.no> References: <3247C797.40EFDDC4@marstons.cv.com> In article <3247C797.40EFDDC4@marstons.cv.com>, NEIL GRANTHAM wrote: >When I reply to a message, and quote the previous message, PINE puts in >the following:- > >On -1 xxx -1 fred.flintstone@bed.rock. wrote: > >How do I change the -1 xxx -1 bit to read something sensible ? The problem is (probably) at Fred Flintstone's end - his Date: header is broken. I seem to recall getting this behavior when replying to a French person whose program put in _French_ month names. Clearly, pine doesn't have a chance to understand that. Greetings, Oerjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24360; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:48:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA06586 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:46:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA06579 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:46:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6YVH-00038BC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Enabling the mbox driver Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:43:34 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52bt9r$8qe@unix.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Ruth Anne Ladue wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > On 25 Sep 1996, Ruth Anne Ladue wrote: > > > We are transitioning our MM users to pine, and we would like for > > > the user to be able to continue to use their existing mbox files > > > as INBOX. The FAQ mentions having to enable the mbox driver to > > > allow this, but does not mention where the driver can be found. > > > I've checked the tech notes and all the group archives, and I can > > > not find any reference to where the driver can be found. Can > > > someone enlighten me? > > > > Do you really mean "mbox files", or do you mean "mail.txt files"? > > mail.txt is the native and natural format of MM. > > I do mean "mbox files." The "native and natural" mail.txt file was changed > to mbox for reasons lost in history. If mail is delivered directly to the mbox file (in the users' home directory, you don't need to compile the mbox driver. All you need to do is include the following definition in your /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file: inbox-path=mbox > > Additional information: the OS is Solaris 2.5 (SunOS 5.5) on a Sun 670; > the users' home directories are not NFS mounted. > If mail is delivered to /usr/spool/mail and you want Pine to move incoming messages to ~/mbox, build Pine as follows: build sol EXTRADRIVERS=mbox Good luck! --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22068; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:48:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA15814 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:46:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA15809 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:46:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6YX4-00038jC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: HELP, I CANT GET MY MAIL!!!! Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:51:20 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52ca22$179@linet06.li.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52ca22$179@linet06.li.net> We need more information than that. What version of Pine are you using? Have you consulted the Suffolknet support staff? --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 25 Sep 1996, Weinert wrote: > From: Weinert > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: HELP, I CANT GET MY MAIL!!!! > Date: 25 Sep 1996 22:00:34 GMT > Organization: LI Net (Long Island Network) > Message-ID: <52ca22$179@linet06.li.net> > NNTP-Posting-Host: bookworm.suffolk.lib.ny.us > X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] > > When I try to access PINE from my main menu, I get the following message: > > > > Problem detected: "Received abort signal". > Pine Exiting. > Abort (core dumped) > > why? what does this mean? Is it PINE's fault, my fault, my ISP's fault. I > have access through Suffolknet ( A free non graphical interface for anyone > living in Suffolk County New York). Please help me, I would ask you to > reply personally, but I cant read my mail!!!!! Thanks > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12364; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:52:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA06642 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:51:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA06637 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:51:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6Ybt-00038BC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PICO - Trying to find info Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:34:41 -0700 Message-Id: References: <32496908.5436@sph.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32496908.5436@sph.jhu.edu> On Wed, 25 Sep 1996 rhoffman@sph.jhu.edu wrote: > From: rhoffman@sph.jhu.edu > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: PICO - Trying to find info > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:16:57 -0400 > Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA > Message-ID: <32496908.5436@sph.jhu.edu> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.220.210.216 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) > > Hallo there. I work for my university's Information Systems department, > and we're trying to put together information packets for new students > about the unix email system. I have been able to find plenty of info on > the web about unix commands and the vi editor we support, and even > plenty of info about pine, but next to NOTHING about pico!! > > The only information about pico i can find is a basic list of commands, > which is the same list that is always displayed at the bottom of the > editing screen! I tried the U. Washington homepage, the pine homepage, > nothing! (you'd think that they'd have info about the program they > wrote). I wrote email to them and got an automated reply (which also > said i would get no personal reply) (what is the point of having a way > to email them if no human ever reads it?) We read as much of the incoming mail as we can, but with 130+ messages/day coming in, we wouldn't get anything done if we answered each one personally. > > Is the reason i am finding NILL on pico because it has NO advanced > capabilities, and the only commands available are the ones on the > screen? Between the online help text (press ^G) and the man page, I think the documentation is basically complete. Pico does not have any "advanced" capabilities hidden away anywhere. There are some references to Pico in the Tech Notes, but most of that is covered in the help text or man page... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27687; Fri, 27 Sep 96 02:03:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA15968 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:01:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA15963 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:01:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6Yiz-00038BC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 01:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: conrads@dolphin.neosoft.com (Conrad Sabatier) Subject: Re: displaying pine on X!! Date: 26 Sep 1996 02:42:44 GMT Message-Id: <52cqj4$puj@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <52c7ah$b9n@due.unit.no> In article <52c7ah$b9n@due.unit.no>, Orjan Johansen wrote: >In article , >Omar Butaiban wrote: >> >> can i display pine under xwindows ??????????// > >Sure, I do that all the time, in an xterm window: > >xterm -e pine & > >I've put it in a menu as well, so I don't have to write it everytime. How >to do that depends on your window manager. There are also a few X options in pine's config, for things like enabling the mouse, changing the icon (when minimized) to indicate new mail. -- Conrad Sabatier | Tired of the Microsoft monopoly? conrads@neosoft.com | Try FreeBSD! UNIX on a PC! It rocks! http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads | http://www.freebsd.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22797; Fri, 27 Sep 96 02:07:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA16033 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:06:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA16028 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:06:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6Ynn-00038BC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 02:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anq4@ie.cuhk.hk (Qin An) Subject: send 8bit text without encode? Date: 26 Sep 1996 11:54:31 GMT Message-Id: <52dqtn$5bd@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> Hello, I'd like send 8bit text (other languages mixed with English) in PINE without any encode, neither base64 nor quoted-printable. But I can't find how to config PINE to do that. Is it possible in PINE? Thank you in advance, Qin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24599; Fri, 27 Sep 96 02:08:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA06807 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:06:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA06802 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:06:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6YnJ-00038jC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 02:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Wenzelhuemer Subject: pgp-interface Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:25:47 -0700 Message-Id: <324C000B.11D7@atpibm6000.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi out there! does anyone know if there exists a pine-pgp-interface and where to get it! Peace tony From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25188; Fri, 27 Sep 96 02:34:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA07081 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:31:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA07076 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:31:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6ZFc-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 02:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Move messages Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:50:49 GMT Message-Id: <52ej63$can@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <1996Sep24.152629@snowdn> The (S)ave command is what you want. Use the (A)pply command to (S)ave the messages to another folder. Pine's default action is then to mark the moved messages as deleted in the current folder. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 24 Sep 96, neilg@snowdn.cv.com (Neil Grantham) wrote: >Question: If you mark mail items in one folder using ";" > How do you move them ? (A)pply only seems to have > forward, delete, undelete etc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25218; Fri, 27 Sep 96 02:54:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA16407 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:46:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA16402 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:46:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6ZRh-00038BC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 02:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rhoffman@sph.jhu.edu Subject: PICO - Trying to find info Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:16:57 -0400 Message-Id: <32496908.5436@sph.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo there. I work for my university's Information Systems department, and we're trying to put together information packets for new students about the unix email system. I have been able to find plenty of info on the web about unix commands and the vi editor we support, and even plenty of info about pine, but next to NOTHING about pico!! The only information about pico i can find is a basic list of commands, which is the same list that is always displayed at the bottom of the editing screen! I tried the U. Washington homepage, the pine homepage, nothing! (you'd think that they'd have info about the program they wrote). I wrote email to them and got an automated reply (which also said i would get no personal reply) (what is the point of having a way to email them if no human ever reads it?) Is the reason i am finding NILL on pico because it has NO advanced capabilities, and the only commands available are the ones on the screen? It seems there MUST be more to things than that. Is there at least a FAQ out there or SOMETHING? Please help me out, or at least point me in the right direction for finding answers. I dont check this newsgroup, so if you could please send any replies to rhoffman@sph.jhu.edu i would really appreciate it. Thanks! -Rebecca Hoffman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25860; Fri, 27 Sep 96 04:14:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA17441 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:11:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA17436 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:11:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6aoO-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 04:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atsai@fas.harvard.edu (sparrow) Subject: [q] replying to multiple recipients Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 02:57:21 GMT Message-Id: <32489f52.85348939@news.fas.harvard.edu> i am using pine 3.95 when replying to mulitple recipients, it always includes my name in the cc: line. i couldn't find the toggle switch in the [c]onfig settings. any ideas? please email responses to : atsai@fas.harvard.edu thanks a lot -a From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25509; Fri, 27 Sep 96 04:14:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA08253 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:11:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA08248 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:11:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6anz-00038BC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 04:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atsai@scunix4.harvard.edu (sparrow) Subject: [q] replying to multiple recipients Date: 25 Sep 1996 03:01:35 GMT Message-Id: <52a7af$sdo@decaxp.harvard.edu> -- ----- ~ alexander c. tsai contact:finger -l atsai@fas.harvard.edu w3 http://www.virtually.net/~alex From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16888; Fri, 27 Sep 96 04:20:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA17510 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:17:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bellatrix.tdb.uu.se (bellatrix.tdb.uu.se [130.238.136.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA17504 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:17:18 -0700 Received: from alya (6nI6h7VdlwovkrLWh1othE7O9AP+fwK6@alya.tdb.uu.se [130.238.136.209]) by bellatrix.tdb.uu.se (8.7.6/8.7.3/TDB_STAFF_MAIN_1.0) with ESMTP id NAA24164 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:17:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (t92tfr@localhost) by alya (8.7.6/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA04998 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:17:13 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: alya.tdb.uu.se: t92tfr owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:17:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Torbjoern Friberg X-Sender: t92tfr@alya.tdb.uu.se To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Reply text Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! How do you change the text that appears at the top of a reply message? Instead of "On Wed, 25 Sep ... wrote:" I would like to insert something i= n swedish. I run pine under Unix (if that information is needed). Thanks, Torbj=F6rn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21600; Fri, 27 Sep 96 04:40:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA17740 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:39:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA17731 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:38:48 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:26/EUnetD-2.5.4.d) via EUnet id NAA01577; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:38:31 +0200 Message-Id: <199609271136.NAA02244@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id NAA02244; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:36:10 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:07:23 +0200 (MET DST) To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: displaying pine on X!! In-Reply-To: <52cqj4$puj@uuneo.neosoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Sep 1996, Conrad Sabatier wrote: -> In article <52c7ah$b9n@due.unit.no>, -> Orjan Johansen wrote: -> >In article , -> >Omar Butaiban wrote: -> >> -> >> can i display pine under xwindows ??????????// -> > -> >Sure, I do that all the time, in an xterm window: -> > -> >xterm -e pine & -> > -> >I've put it in a menu as well, so I don't have to write it everytime. How -> >to do that depends on your window manager. -> -> There are also a few X options in pine's config, for things like enabling -> the mouse, changing the icon (when minimized) to indicate new mail. -> -> -- -> Conrad Sabatier | Tired of the Microsoft monopoly? -> conrads@neosoft.com | Try FreeBSD! UNIX on a PC! It rocks! -> http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads | http://www.freebsd.org -> I'm using pine in conjunction with coolmail (a substitute of xbiff), starting it from .xinitrc (Linux) in such a way: coolmail -geometry 95x70-0+660 -int 30 -e "xterm -T PINE -n pine -e pine" & In the small coolmail-window new mail is flagged; then I click on the window and the xterm with pine is opened. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16419; Fri, 27 Sep 96 06:30:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA09796 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:26:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA09791 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:26:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6cre-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 06:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neilg@snowdn.cv.com (Neil Grantham (neilg@marstons.cv.com)) Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails Date: 26 Sep 96 16:18:38 GMT Message-Id: <1996Sep26.161838@snowdn> References: In article , yeh@netcom.com (Zhenghao Yeh) writes: > Hi! Expert, > > How can I send broadcasting emails? I have a list of my friends, I want > to send the same email to all of them with one address on each mail > header. What I mean is that there shouldn't be all the addresses in the > header? Can pine do that? Thanks. > > - Yeh > Is your system Unix ? If so, we have a lot of machines on a network In /etc on the server we have a file called aliases In there are alaises for users on the system, and also groups of people EG fredf fredf@bedrock betty betty@bedrock wilma wilma@bedrock flintstones fredf,wilma,betty So you would send mail to flintstones@server, and the aliases does the rest. Hope that helps, or steers you in the right direction Neil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26943; Fri, 27 Sep 96 06:54:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA10162 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:50:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA10157 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:50:15 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:26/EUnetD-2.6.0.c) via EUnet id PAA21826; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:49:53 +0200 Message-Id: <199609271347.PAA04127@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id PAA04127; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:47:33 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:45:30 +0200 (MET DST) To: Jim Amanatidis Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: displaying pine on X!! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII coolmail comes with Linux. You can compile it for Solaris. Check prior the definition of the spool file. On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Jim Amanatidis wrote -> -> Hello, -> I noticed your message below. I have a question. -> What is "coolmail"? Is it freeware? Does it work under Solaris? -> -> Any informatioin is appreciated. -> -> Jim Amanatidis Tel: 516-576-2329 -> Email: jima@aip.org Fax: 516-349-7669 -> -> -> -> On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: -> -> > On 26 Sep 1996, Conrad Sabatier wrote: -> > -> > -> In article <52c7ah$b9n@due.unit.no>, -> > -> Orjan Johansen wrote: -> > -> >In article , -> > -> >Omar Butaiban wrote: -> > -> >> -> > -> >> can i display pine under xwindows ??????????// -> > -> > -> > -> >Sure, I do that all the time, in an xterm window: -> > -> > -> > -> >xterm -e pine & -> > -> > -> > -> >I've put it in a menu as well, so I don't have to write it everytime. How -> > -> >to do that depends on your window manager. -> > -> -> > -> There are also a few X options in pine's config, for things like enabling -> > -> the mouse, changing the icon (when minimized) to indicate new mail. -> > -> -> > -> -- -> > -> Conrad Sabatier | Tired of the Microsoft monopoly? -> > -> conrads@neosoft.com | Try FreeBSD! UNIX on a PC! It rocks! -> > -> http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads | http://www.freebsd.org -> > -> -> > I'm using pine in conjunction with coolmail (a substitute of xbiff), -> > starting it from .xinitrc (Linux) in such a way: -> > -> > coolmail -geometry 95x70-0+660 -int 30 -e "xterm -T PINE -n pine -e pine" & -> > -> > In the small coolmail-window new mail is flagged; then I click on the -> > window and the xterm with pine is opened. -> > -> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -> > Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de -> > -> > -> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26823; Fri, 27 Sep 96 06:58:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA19306 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:54:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu (watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA19301 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:54:18 -0700 Received: (from brennan@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA01991 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 96 9:54:17 EDT From: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Enabling the mbox driver In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:55:36 -0700 Message-Id: Mark Crispin wrote, > mail.txt is the native and natural format of MM. Not really. There are various MMs but Columbia MM can do both mbox and mail.txt, and we're using mbox format here for the mbox file. Pine and MM are fairly compatible if you have Pine using the mbox driver; the main difference is how they flag messages, e.g. marking what was seen. Remind people to kill MM before running Pine in the same session, or a suspended MM will yell about the file changing out from under it, and save its version too. The mbox driver is included in the c-client package, but is not used in the Makefile. Make a change something like this in Makefile: from: DEFAULTDRIVERS=imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy to: DEFAULTDRIVERS=tenex mh mbox imap bezerk nntp mtx news mmdf phile dummy You have to get the mbox driver ahead of imap so it tries it first. The mbox driver will be used if there is a non-empty mbox file in the account. If there is no mbox or an empty mbox, it will skip to the next driver, e.g. imap. To force use of mbox for people who only use Pine, you'd need to do 2 things. First, bezerk.c has to accept an empty mbox as valid: bezerk.c 141 < if (!sbuf.st_size)errno = 0;/* empty file */ --- > if (!sbuf.st_size) { > errno = 0;/* empty file */ > ret = T; > } Second, you'd have to touch mbox as Pine starts. Shell wrapper? Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu bug-mm@columbia.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10830; Fri, 27 Sep 96 07:02:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA19333 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:56:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA19328 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 06:56:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6dM1-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 06:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: specifying login name for remote folder Date: 27 Sep 1996 09:46:40 -0400 Message-Id: <52gls0$k7v@net161-61.student.yale.edu> I'm wondering if there's any way to specify 'user-name'(login name) when defining remote folder/folder-collection. I've got a few accounts on different machines with different login-name and Pine prompts me for login-name with default set to local login name of mine when I try to access remote folder/folder collection on hosts where I have login name different than local login name. In case it's not possible as of Pine 3.95, I suggest following scheme for remote folder/folder collection definition. {loginname#password@remote.host.somewhere.net}inbox {loginname#password@remote.host.somewhere.net}dir/[] Of course, password should not be displayed literally (instead, it should be displayed as "****") and need to be stored encrypted. Well, I guess most of use can type password everytime when accessing remote folder(s), so that 'password' in folder specfication is not as necessary as login-name specification if security could be compromised with password. Another question/suggestion is if there's any way to avoid entering login/password when I press 'L'(Folder List) from the main menu. Pine 3.95 prompts me for login name/password whenever I press L with remote folder/folder collection defined in folder list even if I just wanna see the local folder list. I found turning off 'expanded folder collection view' does the job(i.e. it doesn't ask for login/password when pressing L and ask for them only when I expand a remote folder collection). If that's the only way, I propose next version of Pine offer a way to turn 'expanded view of folder collection' on and off per folder collection basis so that I can turn off that for remote folder collection by default and would be prompted for login/password when I expand remote folder collection. Jungshik Shin I would be greatly obliged to Pine team if this would be considered carefully and reflected in next release of Pine. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20582; Fri, 27 Sep 96 07:19:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA19692 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:16:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA19687 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:16:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6dgi-00038nC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 07:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdevoe@ix.netcom.com (Raymond DeVoe) Subject: New User Question Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:43:48 GMT Message-Id: <324d2e0b.10227902@nntp.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I've noticed that many folks seem to prefer the Unix Shell/Pine approach for reading mail/news instead of going the PPP/SLIP route with all the GUI interfaces. Why this preference? Is there something that's lacking in the GUI readers that can be found by using a shell account with Pine? Is there more functionality using Pine? -Ray- -- Posted Using Agent v.99f From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07571; Fri, 27 Sep 96 07:19:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA10598 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:16:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA10590 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:16:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6dgI-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 07:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (NDIAYE Amadou) Subject: Re: Question about incoming folders Date: 24 Sep 1996 01:55:15 GMT Message-Id: <527f23$dpg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Nathan Richards (nathan@phish.nether.net) affirmait publiquement que: | Question: would it be possible to have mail from a certain person | automatically put in a different incoming folder than INBOX...like | INBOX2 or something? Not in PINE. On UNIX, man filter or man procmail HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ En amour, il importe seulement de ne pas paraître plus sot qu'on ne le devient. -- K. Kraus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11220; Fri, 27 Sep 96 07:19:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA10605 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:16:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA10600 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:16:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6dgY-00038jC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 07:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (NDIAYE Amadou) Subject: Re: Pine's command Select(Cur) Date: 24 Sep 1996 01:58:24 GMT Message-Id: <527f80$dpg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Holger Lillqvist (lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI) affirmait publiquement que: | In pine, there is a also the passibility (with the ':') to select | messages. However, to my surprise you can't _do_ anything with the | selceted - not save to a folder, nor export to a file. It should be ';'. Afterwards, you can 'a'pply any action to selected messages. HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ En amour, il importe seulement de ne pas paraître plus sot qu'on ne le devient. -- K. Kraus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27613; Fri, 27 Sep 96 07:34:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA19891 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:31:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA19886 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:31:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6dw5-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 07:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: priyo@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Priyabroto Chatterjee) Subject: Addressbook BUG??! Date: 27 Sep 1996 14:12:42 GMT Message-Id: <52gncq$mgu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Hi, I need some help. I use distribution lists to send out mail. In the addressbook menu, I've listed (ungrouped) aliases for a lot of people; I've also created a separate (grouped) list where I use the aliases of the people created above. The problem is when I try to send mail to the grouped list, the list stops at the letter k and doesn't include email addresses after k. I'll really appreciate any help. PS: I don't have this problem if I type in the complete address in the grouped list. -- Priyabroto Chatterjee, PUTTC | Snail Mail: 120 S. Chauncey Avenue Department of Economics | West Lafayette, IN 47906 Krannert Graduate Sch. of Mgmt. | Email : priyo@expert.cc.purdue.edu Purdue University | Voice : (317)743-5608 -- 'If the world doesn't fit my model, so much the worse for the world.' --- John Eatwell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 08:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25449; Fri, 27 Sep 96 08:42:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA12514 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 08:37:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com ([129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA12503 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 08:37:01 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 27 Sep 96 23:42:20 +0800 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:33:41 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Raymond DeVoe Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: New User Question In-Reply-To: <324d2e0b.10227902@nntp.ix.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Raymond DeVoe wrote: > I've noticed that many folks seem to prefer the Unix Shell/Pine approach > for reading mail/news instead of going the PPP/SLIP route with all the > GUI interfaces. Ahhh....PPP/SLIP is transport related and has not much to do with Unix shell. I beleive what you want to say is that the shell account is preferred over the client/server approach. > Why this preference? Is there something that's lacking in the GUI > readers that can be found by using a shell account with Pine? Is there > more functionality using Pine? If you are asking the question as it relates to pine and PC-pine the Windows version....then the answer is maturity. If you are talking about email in general...then I'm not sure your conclusion is accurate. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30149; Fri, 27 Sep 96 09:05:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA13213 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:02:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA13208 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:02:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6fIU-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 08:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stephen.weihman@tel.gte.com ("Stephen J. Weihman") Subject: Re: Addressbook BUG??! Date: 27 Sep 1996 15:16:07 GMT Message-Id: <52gr3n$e40@news.gte.com> References: <52gncq$mgu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <52gncq$mgu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, priyo@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Priyabroto Chatterjee) writes: > I need some help. I use distribution lists to send out mail. In the > addressbook menu, I've listed (ungrouped) aliases for a lot of people; I've > also created a separate (grouped) list where I use the aliases of the > people created above. The problem is when I try to send mail to the > grouped list, the list stops at the letter k and doesn't include email > addresses after k. I had this same problem when accessing a global address book created with Pine 3.95, while using Pine 3.91. Upgrading to 3.95 cured the problem. You might want to check that. -- Most of our future lies ahead. -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- -- Which could be a good thing! -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- There is more to life than increasing it's speed. -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- -- Which could be a good thing! -- ------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21658; Fri, 27 Sep 96 10:02:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA23651 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:58:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.delta.edu (alpha.delta.edu [161.133.129.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA23646 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:58:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by alpha.delta.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/20Dec95-1058AM) id AA17454; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:01:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:01:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael J Mcquaid To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I need help enabling MIME - please? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, My name is Mike, and I use email pine 3.95, and I need help with enabling the correct searh paths and setting the value for MIME on my configuration. Would you please send me a message with the step by step set up for this feature. Thank You, Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02433; Fri, 27 Sep 96 11:19:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA25874 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:13:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA25861 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:13:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6hKQ-000392C; Fri, 27 Sep 96 11:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spraguem@clem.mscd.edu (SPRAGUE MARIAT) Subject: assignment #3-maria sprague Date: 27 Sep 1996 15:45:09 GMT Message-Id: <52gsq5$o40@clem.mscd.edu> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01359; Fri, 27 Sep 96 11:31:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA17596 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:27:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA17590 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:27:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6haa-00038pC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 11:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: changing from adress Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:33:38 GMT Message-Id: <5299dr$nvm@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <32472191.3A44@the-simpsons.com> <324786E5.965128A@aeeo.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Actually, you can change the "From" header even if that ability hasn't been compiled in. Compose your message, then *postpone* it instead of sending it. Suspend or exit Pine, then use a text editor to edit your postponed-msgs file, changing the line starting with "From:" as you wish. Save the file, resume or restart Pine. Use "c" to continue composing your postponed message, then send it using "CTRL-X" as usual. The recipient sees the "From:" header you want, and "reply" sends to that address, but full headers will show where the message really came from. -Ram Basu -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Ralf Hereth wrote: >Nicholas Sinikoski wrote: >> >> in the "From" field/ can this be >> changed in any way???? >> >Add a "From:..."-header to the customized headers. If this doesn't work >you have to recompile pine after changing the option ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM >in the file pine/osdep/os-***.h (*** stands for your operating system). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02663; Fri, 27 Sep 96 12:00:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA27105 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:57:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA27099 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:57:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6i2v-00038jC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 11:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: send 8bit text without encode? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:51:18 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52dqtn$5bd@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52dqtn$5bd@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> On 26 Sep 1996, Qin An wrote: > I'd like send 8bit text (other languages mixed with English) in PINE > without any encode, neither base64 nor quoted-printable. But I can't > find how to config PINE to do that. Is it possible in PINE? You can try, although there is no guarantee that you will be successful every time, simply because worldwide Internet standards are still 7-bit. However, if your version of Pine is recent (I forget when the feature came in), from the Main Menu go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation and be sure to read the online help screen. You should also probably specify a character set other than USASCII. With the 8-bit feature enabled, Pine will TRY to negotiate an unmodified 8-bit transmission. If the negotiation is succcessful, Pine will send your message unmodified 8-bit. If the negotiation fails, Pine will fall back to its standard 7-bit encodings, such as Quoted-Printable or base64. Note that this depends in large measure on the receiving system and the transmission path (possibly), so there is no assurance that it will work every time. (I think that successful 8-bit transmission also requires a compatible mail transfer agent on your system.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03374; Fri, 27 Sep 96 12:49:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA19849 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:41:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA19843 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:41:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6imp-00038pC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 12:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Markus Roskothen" Subject: shared addressbook? Date: 24 Sep 1996 22:33:52 GMT Message-Id: <01bbaa6e$9e458020$5ff8f184@sledge> To who may know it, what is the difference between shared and gobal addressbooks? I understand the idea of these two but not how to implement shared addressbooks. I went through the pine FAQ and the archive and there is some info about global addressbooks. I would appreciate if someone can inform me about shared addressbooks and how to implement them. Greetings, Markus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03904; Fri, 27 Sep 96 12:52:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA28454 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:46:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA28448 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:46:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6ip2-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 12:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: akr@cisco.com (Abhay Roy) Subject: Re: Signature Date: 24 Sep 1996 05:14:36 GMT Message-Id: <527qns$sgs@cronkite.cisco.com> References: Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi (edeelisi@peabody.jhu.edu) wrote: : Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. : : Hi! Some information.....I'm trying to put the automatic signature using : pine. The signature appears on the top of my email message and when I : uses the function "reply" it usually happens that I have the signature on : top and the letter is on the bottom. : : QUESTION: when I reply a message, how can I do to have my signature at : the bottom of the old letter?? Setup/Config. Select signature-at-bottom. Later, -Roy- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer Cisco Systems Inc. "Better to understand a little, than to misunderstand a lot." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22268; Fri, 27 Sep 96 12:52:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA19950 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:46:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA19945 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:46:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6ip4-00038jC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 12:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: NEIL GRANTHAM Subject: PINE reply Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:35:51 +0000 Message-Id: <3247C797.40EFDDC4@marstons.cv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I reply to a message, and quote the previous message, PINE puts in the following:- On -1 xxx -1 fred.flintstone@bed.rock. wrote: How do I change the -1 xxx -1 bit to read something sensible ? Neil Grantham From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16024; Fri, 27 Sep 96 14:37:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA01028 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:31:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA01023 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:31:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6kS5-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 14:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Markus Roskothen Subject: shared addressbook ? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:14:34 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To who may know it, what is the difference between shared and gobal addressbooks? I understand the idea of these two but not how to implement shared addressbooks. I went through the pine FAQ and the archive and there is some info about global addressbooks. I would appreciate if someone can inform me about shared addressbooks and how to implement them. Greetings, Markus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06879; Fri, 27 Sep 96 14:51:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA22896 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:46:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA22891 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:46:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6kgy-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 14:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: specifying login name for remote folder Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:41:46 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52gls0$k7v@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52gls0$k7v@net161-61.student.yale.edu> On 27 Sep 1996, Jungshik Shin wrote: > I'm wondering if there's any way to specify 'user-name'(login name) > when defining remote folder/folder-collection. I've got a few > accounts on different machines with different login-name and > Pine prompts me for login-name with default set to local > login name of mine when I try to access remote folder/folder > collection on hosts where I have login name different than > local login name. In case it's not possible as of Pine 3.95, > I suggest following scheme for remote folder/folder collection > definition. > > {loginname#password@remote.host.somewhere.net}inbox > {loginname#password@remote.host.somewhere.net}dir/[] The definition are actually {remote.host.somewhere.net/user=loginname}INBOX {remote.host.somewhere.net/user=loginname}dir/[] The password cannot be specified. This works in Pine 3.92 and later. > Another question/suggestion is if there's any way to > avoid entering login/password when I press 'L'(Folder > List) from the main menu. Pine 3.95 prompts me for > login name/password whenever I press L with remote > folder/folder collection defined in folder list even if > I just wanna see the local folder list. I found turning off > 'expanded folder collection view' does the job(i.e. > it doesn't ask for login/password when pressing L > and ask for them only when I expand a remote folder collection). Pine is supposed to keep the last password you used for each server for the duration of a session. We will investigate this further... > If that's the only way, I propose next version of Pine > offer a way to turn 'expanded view of folder collection' > on and off per folder collection basis so that I can > turn off that for remote folder collection by default > and would be prompted for login/password when I expand > remote folder collection. > We'll keep this in mind! > Jungshik Shin > > I would be greatly obliged to Pine team if this would be considered > carefully and reflected in next release of Pine. > --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07853; Fri, 27 Sep 96 15:29:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA02296 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:26:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA02291 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:26:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6lJb-00038pC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 15:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tze-yau William Ng Huang Subject: How can I filter and forward? Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:23:11 -0700 Message-Id: <324C53CF.291D@eecs.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am using PINE 3.91. I would like to learn how to filter incoming emails and forward them to specific addresses acording to the originating address. Please email me. mailto:thuang@eecs.berkeley.edu Thanks, William Ng From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07579; Fri, 27 Sep 96 16:04:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA24935 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:01:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chinet.isdn.wwa.com.isdn.wwa.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA24930; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:01:07 -0700 Received: from localhost by chinet.isdn.wwa.com.isdn.wwa.com (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id WAA03255; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:58:49 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:58:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: specifying login name for remote folder In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is the appropriate syntax for a remote news collection via nntp when a different user name must be specified? I had no luck with *{news.remote.host/nntp/user=login}[] on the news collections line, with a 2nd machine, news.remote.host, specified on the nntp line. >From: David L Miller >Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:41:46 -0700 >The definition are actually > {remote.host.somewhere.net/user=loginname}INBOX > {remote.host.somewhere.net/user=loginname}dir/[] >The password cannot be specified. This works in Pine 3.92 and later. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09326; Fri, 27 Sep 96 16:29:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA25701 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:27:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA25696 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:26:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6mHh-00038qC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 16:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: burnettn@almond.enmu.edu (Nathan Burnett) Subject: Compiling pine as a NeXTstep FAT Binary Date: 27 Sep 1996 22:03:34 GMT Message-Id: <52hivm$47e@sahara.enmu.edu> Has anyone been able to successfully compile pine 3.95 in the NeXTstep FAT (multi-architecture) format. I'm trying to install it on a network of NeXT machines that include the NeXT m68k boxes, hppa's and Intels. Any help would be appreciated. thanks, Nate --- Nathan C. Burnett "If nobody quotes you, you probably nathan.burnett@math.enmu.edu haven't said anything worth saying." http://chestnut.enmu.edu/~burnettn PGP Key: finger -l burnettn@mojave.enmu.edu -- KMFDM From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09859; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:04:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA04896 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:02:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA04891 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:02:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6moq-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 16:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Frampton Subject: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:58:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10341; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:24:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA27120 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:22:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA27115 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:22:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6n8R-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: pine {ansi color} Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:19:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52fcuk$q99@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52fcuk$q99@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> On 26 Sep 1996, ALSTON wrote: > I've been receiving forwarded msgs that have colored and/or flashing text. I've asked everywhere, how this is done, but no one seems to know. All I know is that it has something to do with CHARACTER COMMANDS. Is there anyone out there with a list of > commands or a suggestion as to where I could look for them? DO NOT DO THIS!!!! Many people think this is cute. Unfortunately, you have no control over what kind of terminal device or computer the recipient is using. For some recipients, control characters in the stream will do cute things. For other recipients, such control characters may do very nasty things, and the recipients will curse your name to the skies. I suggest that you just forget it. (Another suggestion is that when you compose messages, you put in some hard line-ends. Your first list was four screens wide. I am sure others will appreciate it as well.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31638; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:28:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA05708 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:27:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA05703 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:27:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6nDt-00038pC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Filtering messages Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:25:13 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Balaji C Krishnan wrote: > I am on a unix system. I am now on multiple mailing lists and > receive close to 150 mails a day. I was wondering if I may be able to > setup a filtering system such that the mails from the listservs can be > saved in separate folders. [...] Yes, this is easy to do with tools such as procmail (which I use) and filter. You do not need any shell scripts for procmail. Nancy McGough has a lot of good information on how to set up mail filtering. If you have a WWW browser, browse my home page: I have a link to Nancy's site (and a mirror) where you can get a lot of directions. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28043; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:44:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA27520 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:42:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA27515 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:42:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6nQp-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spraguem@clem.mscd.edu (SPRAGUE MARIAT) Subject: ASSIGNMENT #3-Maria Sprague Date: 27 Sep 1996 15:48:14 GMT Message-Id: <52gsvu$o40@clem.mscd.edu> README.TXT File README file for VT320 for Windows, Version 2.xx (C) Copyright Ipswitch, Inc., 1994 README.TXT Date: November 4, 1994 ========== This README.TXT file contains important information about Ipswitch, Inc.'s VT320 for Windows. Suggestions for enhancements and constructive criticism are always welcome. We will continue to add new features and functionality based on customer feedback. 1. NOTABLE 2.40 ENHANCEMENTS ---------------------------- - If you're not connected, and you press the ENTER key, the connect dialog box will appear for your convenience. This will not occur if the emulator is in local mode. - A command line parameter has been added to allow you to specify a node name to automatically connect to when you start the emulator. Syntax: /node=nodename Where: nodename is the name of the desired node and can be up to 32 characters. Do not put this name in quotes. Example: In the properties dialog box, enter the following as a command line: C:\ACADIA\APPS\VT320W.EXE /node=kronos This option overrides any node name specified in the Auto Connect field of the Setup:Communications dialog box. If the Auto Connect port has been specified (with or without a Node Name), this port will be used for the connection. For Example: If you are running the DECNET version (i.e. 2.40-DD.16), and if you specified CTERM as the Auto Connect Port, then the /node option will use CTERM as the desired port. Otherwise, if you specified LAT or None, then the /node option will use LAT as the desired port. 2. NOTABLE 2.13 ENHANCEMENTS ---------------------------- - Added Private ESCape sequence to set the number of terminal lines: [7;nn| where nn is the number of lines (range 24 thru 48). This is the equivalent of the following Emulator Command Language (ECL) command: SET TERM /LINES=nn where nn is 24 thru 48. - Added VT420 ESCape sequence to set the number of terminal lines: [nnt where nn is the number of lines (range 24 thru 48). Note: this has been enhanced as compared to the VT420 sequence (which only supports nn values 24, 25, 36 and 48). Also note that values of 72 and 144 are not implemented. 3. NOTABLE 2.xx FEATURES AND ENHANCEMENTS ---------------------------------------- OPERATIONAL CHANGES =================== The following operational concepts have changed. -FILE TRANSFER: monitor status in minimized mode You can monitor the progress of file transfers even while minimized through a small, concise status window. This feature helps you spot a transfer problem immediately and/or gives you constant reassurance that the tranfser is proceeding normally while you're running another application. In previous versions, you could not monitor the file transfer progress while minimized. -FILE TRANSFER: Receive - "*.*" makes Filenames Derived from Host In V1.x of VT320 for Windows, when "*.*" was entered as the PC filename and the Host Filename was empty, the file transfer would ask the host for each filename that it found on the PC. In V2.xx of VT320 for Windows, this has been disabled. -FILE TRANSFER: Selecting Multiple Files To select multiple sequential files, click on the first file, drag the cursor to the last file to select, and release the mouse button. Another option is to click on the first file to select, press and hold the Shift button, then click on the last file to select. To select non-sequential files in the list, hold the Control key while clicking on each file. To deselect any file, click on the filename again, while holding the Control key. -MOUSE SETTINGS: Changes to the dialog box. The Save button has been removed from the Mouse Settings dialog box. The selections are now saved automatically when the OK button is clicked. -SCROLLBACK - Toggling Scrollback Mode with Right Mouse Button The right mouse button no longer toggles scrollback mode. -SCROLLBACK SCROLLBAR: The vertical scrollbar associated with scrollback memory can now appear in an alternate location when maximized. This location is to the upper right of the emulation window. When in this location, the full width of the screen is usable by text in the emulation window. In previous versions, the scrollbar was directly to the right of the emulation window, which prevented the entire screen width from being used for text, resulting in a smaller font. When maximimized, clicking the scrollback scrollbar button (to the right of the status line) will switch this scrollbar's location from the alternate location, to the normal location, and then turn it off (and so on). -TOOLBAR SETTINGS: Changes to the dialog box. The Save button has been removed from the Toolbar Settings dialog box. The selections are now saved automatically when the OK button is clicked. -WINDOW POSITION - Saving VT320W will now save the current window position upon exit. -Log File Record - Stopping a recording To stop a log file recording, click on File - Record Log File. The checkmark (indicating a log in progress) will disappear. -Connect - Session Name doesn't appear when COM port selected Because the Session name for a COM connection is not needed, it was removed. The Session name group only appears when making a network connection is selected. Command Language Changes ======================== The following commands were changed. SET TERMINAL /LINES=nn - Added: 24-48 line screens Where: nn - is the number of screen lines from 24 through 48. SET TERMINAL /NOPROTOCOL - Deleted: Use /PROTOCOL=None SET TERMINAL /NOPARITY - Deleted: Use /PARITY=None SET TERMINAL /[NO]PSEUDO - Deleted: Not used anymore SET MESSAGE [location] - Deleted: All messages go to status line. LOG /TEXT Records only the text and ignores the control sequences. READ SCREEN [row,col] Symbol-name - Added: Reads information from the screen Where: row - The row of the screen to read col - The column of the screen to start reading. If col is not specified, column 1 is used. Reads a specific row of text from the screen into the symbol. Example: This command will read all of the text on line 1 of screen, starting at column 10, into the variable text. READ SCREEN [1,10] TEXT Loading Alternate Setup Files Here is another method for loading alternate setup files. 1. Edit the Program Item Properties for the VT320W icon. 2. Add the name of the alternate setup file to the end of the current Command Line. Example: C:\ACADIA\APPS\VT320W.EXE VTNEW.SET 3. Press the OK button. Each time the VT320W program is run, it automatically loads the setup file VTNEW.SET. List Box File Selection To select sequential files, click on the first file to select, then drag the cursor to the last file to select. Or, click on the first file, press the shift key and then click on the last file. To select non-sequential files, hold the control key and click on the file. To deselect any file, click on the filename again, while holding the control key. DDEDEMO ======= The DDEDEMO for VT320W demonstrates some of the Dynamic Data Exchange(DDE) capabilities of the emulator. Look at the commands in the command (.ECF) file for examples of how to write your own DDE scripts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The DDEDEMO includes the following files: DDEDEMO.EXE - A Windows DDE Server application that provides Date/Time and the estimated United States population. DDEDEMO.ECF - A Command file DDEDEMO.TXT - What you are reading now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To run the DDE Demo: 1. Run the DDEDEMO.EXE program. The demo only runs as an ICON and cannot be maximized (it may appear that nothing happened after double- clicking it). 2. Start VT320W, if not already running. 3. Run the Command File DDEDEMO.ECF using the File|Command menu selections. The DDE demo displays a screen that indicates the current time and US population. This information is provided by the DDE server. The ECF file runs for 30 seconds. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32118; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:54:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA27691 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:52:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA27680 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:52:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6nZg-00038pC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kjell Andresen Subject: tip; More than one signature Date: 24 Sep 1996 09:10:02 GMT Message-Id: <5288ha$2f8@ratatosk.uio.no> Make the signatures you need and store them in different files e.g in you home directory and use ^R in pico to insert this files. If the files are named something short this saves you a lot of typing! Kjell Andresen Systems administrator, University of Oslo, Norway Center for Information Technology Services and Department of Geophysics -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10794; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:54:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA06206 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:52:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA06201 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:52:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6nZg-00038qC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Saving a URL Date: 24 Sep 1996 09:58:32 -0400 Message-Id: References: Henor Hysa writes: >I'm wondering if it's posible to save a URL and if yes how? It would be great if there were a command like T (TakeAddr) which would present all the URLs in a message and then allow you to pick and choose which ones to add to your ACAP-accessible universal bookmark file. -Nancy (can't wait for ACAP bookmark files and address books) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10291; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:56:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA06199 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:52:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA06194 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:52:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6nZe-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: additional page is printed with each printed message Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:57:31 GMT Message-Id: <529097$e5h@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: We, too, were having a similar problem. Although we weren't getting any junk characters on the second page, we always got a second (blank) page printed after each e-mail message. We use FTP Software's On Net package to provide TCP/IP connectivity to Windows users. We've fixed the problem (in Pine 3.95) by setting the Pine printer to "attached-to-ansi-no-formfeed" using the Setup option on the Main Menu. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Christoph Spoerri wrote: >I don't know it this is the right news group, but I'll try it once. >I have a problem printing with pine. Pine itself runs on a UNIX machine, >to which I connect from a PC. The PC is on a network and therefore prints >to a network printer. Now, whenever one of the PCs on the network print >from pine, an additional page come after each printed e-mail/message. On >each page there are always the same three characters. >Does any body have an idea where the bug could be? By the way this thing >just recently started happening, after upgrading the network to LANWork 5. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25011; Fri, 27 Sep 96 18:50:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA07070 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:48:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (mail1.grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.81]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA07065 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:47:59 -0700 Received: from willow.grove.ufl.EDU (root@grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.13]) by mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02697 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:49:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill R Strollo Received: from localhost (blueeyes@localhost) by willow.grove.ufl.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/2) with SMTP id NAA20299 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:40:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: willow.grove.ufl.edu: blueeyes owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:40:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: blueeyes@willow Reply-To: blueeyes@grove.ufl.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problems In-Reply-To: <9609261846.AA28505@groupfs.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having a problem writing and sending mail. If my message is longer then a line it has been telling me "disc quota exceeded". I have no saved messages, and only 2 in my in-box. I also have a few addresses. This is becoming a problem since I would like to send longer messages. Thank you, Jill Strollo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12122; Fri, 27 Sep 96 20:04:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA29859 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:02:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA29854 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:02:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6pfN-00038jC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 20:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi Subject: signature: how to use or not use??? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:16:57 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi please if possible, post the answer on the group, of course and email me because sometimes I've problems to retry the news.......thanks. I have a signature written with "pico" (pico .signature) and when I use pine the sign. automatically appears on the bottom. If I don't want to send my signature without delete the file .signature, what can I do? Thanks for having read the text. Talk to you later..... Enrico ********************************************************************** *** ** Enrico Degli Esposti Elisi *** E-mail: edeelisi@peabody.jhu.edu ** ***************************** *** ** Peabody Conservatory of Music *** Phone: (410) 837-7982 ** Campus Box #149 *** ** 606 St. Paul Street *** *** ** Baltimore MD 21202-2355 *** ** U.S.A. *** ******* *** ** ***** *** *** ***** ** ********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13236; Fri, 27 Sep 96 20:25:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA08799 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA08794 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:22:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6puP-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 20:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chambejd@bc.edu (Joy Chambers) Subject: Re: deleting messages every 30 days Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:53:20 GMT Message-Id: <52i38o$bmo@delphi.bc.edu> References: <525q0g$dje@delphi.bc.edu> I don't think that this is fixable through the Pine application. This is something that BC has control over. You could create new folders to store the messages you want to save. That way they will be stored on your memory and not the school's server. Joy -- Joy Chambers Chestnut Hill, MA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13505; Fri, 27 Sep 96 21:25:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA00972 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:23:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA00967 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:23:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 27 SEP 96 20:26:48 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:26:48 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode Reply-To: Linda Emerson To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Canned Message Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What program generates the following message & why? "Reposting article removed by rogue canceller" Earlier this week, there were a number of "cancelled messages" in my inbox; then during the week I noticed a number of messages that contained this message as the first line. Just curious. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13015; Fri, 27 Sep 96 21:29:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA01033 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:27:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA01028 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:27:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6qva-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 21:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: Please, help me with 8bit subjects in Pine. Date: 27 Sep 1996 16:44:39 -0400 Message-Id: <52hebn$mo1@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: Alexander S. Urakov wrote: : If I use russian characters in subject field pine converts them to MIME : encoded string and I can read this subject only on the same version of : Pine. Most users in our country use mail packages which allow to display : only 8bit plain text in Subject and message body. So how can I force Pine : to send Subject in 8bit plain text format?? And without -- [KOI8-R] at : begin of line?? Sorry, it's impossible. 8bit characters in mail header including Subject is explicitely prohibited by RFC 1522 and STD 10/11 and Pine strictly adheres to those standard and doesn't allow 8bit characters in mail header without B/Q encoding as specified in RFC 1522. You'd better ask your correspondents to get MIME-compliant mail user agent/POP3 client like Pine,Netscape-Mail, MS Internet Mail,MIME-enabled Elm which have no trouble decoding B/Q encoded header. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13917; Fri, 27 Sep 96 21:44:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA01225 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:42:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA01220 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:42:33 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 28 Sep 96 12:47:50 +0800 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 12:39:11 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: signature: how to use or not use??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi wrote: > Hi please if possible, post the answer on the group, of course and email > me because sometimes I've problems to retry the news.......thanks. > > I have a signature written with "pico" (pico .signature) and when I use > pine the sign. automatically appears on the bottom. If I don't want to > send my signature without delete the file .signature, what can I do? > > Thanks for having read the text. Mark the text you want to delete from the message (contents of the .signature. Then ^K to delete. Ed [snip...my sigs gone] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13374; Fri, 27 Sep 96 21:59:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA09944 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:57:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA09939 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:57:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6rT0-00038iC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 21:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Gideon Weisz) Subject: how adjust linewrap column location? Date: 27 Sep 1996 22:56:14 -0600 Message-Id: <52ib5e$oeg@nyx10.cs.du.edu> i'd appreciate any info on how to adjust where the line wraps in PINE. ideally, i'd like to be able to change that location within the letter i'm typing. but i don't know how to adjust it at all! TIA, gideon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14320; Fri, 27 Sep 96 22:19:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA10158 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:17:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA10153 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:17:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6rkD-00038nC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 22:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: [Q] Copying sent messages to folders Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:37:49 GMT Message-Id: <529gmj$nvm@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: You can do two things: 1. Create entries in your addressbook for people to whom you send mail that you routinely want in a folder other than sent-mail. Using the addressbook, even for a user on your own system and using as the nickname the "real" username, allows you to specify a default Fcc folder. 2. Modify your "default-composer-hdrs" option under setup to include the "Fcc" header. This way, for any outgoing message, you have an in-your-face reminder that you can change the default Fcc value. (You should always be able to do this using the CTRL-R command to view rich headers while in the headers section of your outgoing message.) -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:40:29 -0700, wrote: >> Is there any way I can have pine ask me which folder I would like >>to copy the message to as I am sending it or something. I know about the >>Fcc field on my address book but I would rather classify them by what they >>are about than by who I am sending them to. >I haven't found a slick way, but every once in a while I open the folder I >keep my sent mail in and (s)ave each message into a different appropriate >file. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13123; Fri, 27 Sep 96 22:19:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA01619 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:17:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA01614 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:17:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6rkC-00038jC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 22:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mliccardo@tim.it (Massimiliano Liccardo) Subject: using pine as a newsgroup moderator ? Date: 23 Sep 1996 12:58:29 GMT Message-Id: <5261hl$o8l@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> Hi all, How can I use pine as a newsgroup moderator ?? -- Max Liccardo mliccardo@tim.it "..fatti non foste per viver come bruti, ma per seguir virtute e cAnoscenza .." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14316; Fri, 27 Sep 96 22:20:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA01626 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:17:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA01621 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:17:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6rkH-00038pC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 22:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: What is wrong?? Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:08:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 24 Sep 1996, Jaclyn Miche Marino wrote: > Recently my inbox says "readonly" and I can't delete any messages nor can > any messages be moved from my inbox to "read-mail". Can you please tell > me what is wrong and how I can fix it. Thank you. It was most likely because there was another Pine session open. --- Nathan Richards, aka. Sunspot on Efica MUD (telnet 195.92.35.130 4000) Also known as Xoron on IRC (Undernet, DALnet, sometimes EFNet if you're lucky) Email: nathan@phish.nether.net or bm782@torfree.net WWW: http://www.naples.net/~nfn04143/Nathan/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14370; Fri, 27 Sep 96 23:40:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA11061 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:38:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id XAA11056 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:38:08 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjbu01012; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27438; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:36:31 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA17671; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:35:21 -0300 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:35:20 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Subject: ftp pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi , where can i ftp the latest version of pine and pico and i want to know are there bugs in the version and are they files that i can ftp them to use them with pine and pico ..... thanks and one more thing , i want to know what is the name of the tar file that i will ftp thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03464; Fri, 27 Sep 96 23:54:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA02702 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:52:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA02697 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:52:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6tFP-00038jC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 23:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 20:24:09 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Sep 1996, Kirk D. Mccoy wrote: > Is there a such thing as BCC? Yes. > How do I use it? First, while the cursor is in the header area of your message, press Ctrl-R to see if Bcc: is already defined in your configuration. If it is not, from the Main Menu go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to default-hdrs: and add it. A work of warning. If you use Bcc:, make sure *something* (if nothing else, your own address) is in the To: field, or the Bcc: entries may no longer be "blind." Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15129; Fri, 27 Sep 96 23:54:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA11224 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:52:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA11219 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:52:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6tFi-00038nC; Fri, 27 Sep 96 23:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Question about incoming folders Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 20:26:52 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Nathan Richards wrote: > Question: would it be possible to have mail from a certain person > automatically put in a different incoming folder than INBOX...like > INBOX2 or something? Yes, it is certainly possible (a lot of us do it), but Pine itself will not do it for you. You need a technique which will route the mail as part of the delivery process before Pine ever touches it. There are various ways to do it (often called mail filtering). Nancy McGough has a lot of good material on this in her WWW pages. I never remember her URL, but I have a link to her pages from my home page. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15791; Sat, 28 Sep 96 01:24:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA03805 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:23:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pwa.acusd.edu (pwa.acusd.edu [192.55.87.207]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA03800 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:23:06 -0700 Received: by pwa.acusd.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA22868; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:23:20 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:23:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Doherty To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you use talk or chat in pine 3.89. Jennifer Doherty University of San Diego jdoherty@pwa.acusd.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15265; Sat, 28 Sep 96 01:40:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA04012 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:39:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA04006 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:39:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6upu-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 01:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: signature: how to use or not use??? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <52g0o5$mci@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 00:15:27 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <52g0o5$mci@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 27 Sep 1996, TRAN Huu Da wrote: > Un jour, Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi (edeelisi@peabody.jhu.edu) > affirmait publiquement que: > > | I have a signature written with "pico" (pico .signature) and when I use > | pine the sign. automatically appears on the bottom. If I don't want to > | send my signature without delete the file .signature, what can I do? > > Deleting the lines of the signature in your message by hand (with ^K). An alternative is save your signature with a short file name, such as "s" (that's what I used). Whenever you're composing and you want to include your signature, just press ^R, s, (Enter key). These keystrokes will import your signature file into the e-mail that you're composing. Hope this helps. J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15786; Sat, 28 Sep 96 02:12:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA04273 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:08:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA04268 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:08:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6vLs-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 02:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: akr@cisco.com (Abhay Roy) Subject: Re: Problems with the PINE inbox Date: 28 Sep 1996 08:57:22 GMT Message-Id: <52ip9i$f2o@cronkite.cisco.com> References: <5291cr$i0d@rain.psg.com> Gagan Jeet Bhalla (bhalla@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) wrote: : Hi everybody, : I'm hoping someone could help me out. Lately, I'd changed my : read/write permissions to my account and from then on for some : strange(and possibly unrelated reason) reason, I'm not able to recieve : any messages in my PINE Inbox although I know that I'm getting new : messages everyday(which I check on Netscape). I tried playing around with : the Configuration within PINe but to no avail. Hope some of you can : help, You are not very clear on what you did ;-( When you say you have changed read/write permission for your account, do you mean your home directory permissions ? You /var/spool/mail (INBOX) permission ? Or something like chmod -R . ? A simple test will be to look at the size of your mail folder (INBOX). Assuming you are running Unix, you could do "ls -l ", and see if the size is changing. Once you see the INBOX with > 0 bytes in it, next you can see the pine configuration (~/.pinerc) to make sure you have the right filename set for your inbox. (variable inbox-path) If that appears to be fine, you might want to consult your system admin, who can throw some more light on this problem. Later, -Roy- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer Cisco Systems Inc. "Better to understand a little, than to misunderstand a lot." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15667; Sat, 28 Sep 96 02:15:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA12817 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:13:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA12812 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:13:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6vPj-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 02:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE Date: 24 Sep 1996 19:57:44 GMT Message-Id: <529efo$dr2@due.unit.no> References: In article , PuppyCat wrote: >there either a global Unsubscribe for pine, or a way to access only the >newsgroups listed in .real? You need to change to a newer version of pine. (Current: 3.95.) Since 3.92 there has been a Setup/Config option: newsrc-path. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16235; Sat, 28 Sep 96 02:51:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA04702 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:48:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA04697 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:48:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6vyP-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 02:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kaukasoi@elektroni.ee.tut.fi (Petri Kaukasoina) Subject: tenex format in mail boxes Date: 28 Sep 1996 08:04:33 GMT Message-Id: <52im6h$t6c@cc.tut.fi> Is it possible to use tenex format in mail boxes other than the INBOX? If yes then how to change to tenex? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 03:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05620; Sat, 28 Sep 96 03:07:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA13302 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 03:04:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA13291 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 03:04:01 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjci11055; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 06:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00615; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 12:06:17 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA18599; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 12:04:30 -0300 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 12:04:29 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is there a talk ( chat on pine ) thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 04:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16784; Sat, 28 Sep 96 04:36:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA14451 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 04:33:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA14446 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 04:33:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6xdi-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 04:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Sage One Subject: Re: How Do I Turn Off Vacation Msg? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:26:20 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 The command is $ Mail -F "" don't forget the double quotes at the end. They are important ( I don't know why I assume it's a path thing) Stick On 24 Sep 1996, Linda Emerson wrote: > Someone suggested that I delete the file in my home directory called > .forward in order to reverse the auto-generated vacation msg. I tried > this and received the message that the file doesn't exist. > > I've contacted the sysadmin at my ISP but he claimed that he didn't even > know the program existed! > > Any other suggestions? > > ... : ... > :: > Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra > lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher K. MacLeod *cmacleod@cs1.presby.edu* http://cs1.presby.edu/~cmacleod "Stick" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04028; Sat, 28 Sep 96 05:04:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA14730 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:01:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lily.bu.ac.th (lily.bu.ac.th [202.44.254.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id FAA14716; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:00:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (g39b0024@localhost) by lily.bu.ac.th (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01117; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:48:22 +0700 (ICT) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:48:22 +0700 (ICT) From: VEERAPONG MALAI To: root@docserver.cac.washington.edu Cc: pine@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you for your information. But I can't understand about this programme . You can give me for more details about it. If possible I want to know about your University.Please send for more information to me at home following address. Thank you and hope to answering from you. =============================================================================== VEERAPONG MALAI BANGKOK UNIVERSITY OFFICE: HOME: 40/4 RAMA 4TH ROAD ROBINSON DEPT. STORE 33/454 ROUMCHOK VILLAGE KLUAYNAMTAI PUBLIC COMPANY CHOKCHAI 4, LARDPROW RD. PRAKHANONG, KLONGTEI 139 RACHADA RD. BANGKOK THAILAND 10230 BANGKOK 10110 THAILAND BANGKOK THAILAND 10320 E-MAIL: TEL: (662) 245-4811, TEL: (662) 530-1143 g39b0024@lily.bu.ac.th 245-4822, MOBILE: (01) 905-4531 248-2626-35, EXT: 1003 FAX:(662) 247-5319 =============================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15921; Sat, 28 Sep 96 05:15:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA06317 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:13:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA06312 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:13:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6yFB-00038pC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 05:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: OK to install in ~/bin? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:47:18 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 21 Sep 1996, Kingsley G. Morse Jr. wrote: > Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. > > Has anyone installed pine in the bin subdirectory of their home directory? > And it worked? ;-) Sure, it works fine, but it does take up a bit of space for those with limited storage. Harry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17061; Sat, 28 Sep 96 05:25:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA14948 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:23:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA14943 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:23:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6yQb-00038tC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 05:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: How can you save files from an e-mail to a diskette? HELP Date: 24 Sep 1996 20:29:22 GMT Message-Id: <529gb2$ea8@due.unit.no> References: In article , Ivan Almaleh wrote: Translation for the benefit of this international newsgroup: ]Hi, ]I have a small problem saving my letters from my mailbox to a ]diskette in my computer. I have never actually succeeded in this and ]I wonder if anyone can give me any tips of how to save files from ]e-mail and onto the diskette station. ]I use both a PC (telnet program) and Mac (SITcomm program). ] ]Greetings ] ]Ivan (ivan@lysator.liu.se) Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17471; Sat, 28 Sep 96 05:45:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA06636 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:43:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA06631 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:43:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v6yg1-00038tC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 05:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: pine command in newsgroup Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:06:33 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Type in a ";" while in the index. You can then select messsages in several different ways, including by date or text. Then you can perform a single command on the whole group by hitting "a" and selecting a command from the menu that appears. Harry On 22 Sep 1996, Jill wrote: > > I would like to know if there is a way to delete newsgroup entries in > bulk. > > That is, currently each entry must be marked with a D and then X to > exclude it. With 1,000's of entries, this can be quite time consuming. > > I want to know if entries can be deleted by the date of entry, etc, and if > so, HOW? > > Any help is appreciated, as I have read the help screens and found nothing > pertaining to this. > > Thanks in advance. > > Angel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16806; Sat, 28 Sep 96 05:47:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA15194 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:45:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA15189 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:45:48 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 28 Sep 96 20:51:05 +0800 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 20:42:27 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 28 Sep 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > is there a talk ( chat on pine ) No.......thank goodness. :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 08:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18847; Sat, 28 Sep 96 08:56:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA08668 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 08:54:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA08663 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 08:54:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v71gL-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 08:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ed Greshko" Subject: Re: Distribution Lists Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:16:47 +0800 Message-Id: <01bbad3f.c0f8db20$1511b381@edspc17> References: <52ihd1$fpv@news.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > tcj6054@tam2000.tamu.edu (Theodore Calest III Johnson) wrote in article <52ihd1$fpv@news.tamu.edu>... > Howdy, > > > Could anyone tell me how to do a distribution list in Pine? Thanx. Sure.... From the m(ain) menu, go to a(ddressbook). Then type "?" for help and do some "Information Research". If, after you've done "Information Research" you still don't understand... then come on back. Hint: While doing "information research" you will find a section entitled "Distribution Lists". This may be a good section to read. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19370; Sat, 28 Sep 96 09:41:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA17941 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:39:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA17936 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:39:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v72LS-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 09:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "cristobal baray" Subject: Tabs in Pico... Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:20:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1608@843927663> Is there a way to adjust the tab size in pico? I'm on a unix box and am not sure if there's an environment variable I should set that could fix this - any suggestions? thanks... cris. -- -- cristobal baray From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19428; Sat, 28 Sep 96 09:48:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA18022 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:46:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA18017 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:46:37 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr45.interl.net [205.244.161.45]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA18620; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:45:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA07037; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:46:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:46:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Tony Wenzelhuemer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pgp-interface In-Reply-To: <324C000B.11D7@atpibm6000.tuwien.ac.at> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Tony Wenzelhuemer wrote: > Hi out there! > does anyone know if there exists a pine-pgp-interface and where to get > it! For Pc-Pine I don't know, but I'm using mkpgp2.1 under Linux. It's a Perl script so I'm sure it'll work with any flavor of Unix Pine. ftp://ftp.rivertown.net/pub/unix/privacy/mkpgp2.1.tar.gz ...and if you're looking for some PGP-related links (or something for PC-Pine) you might find it at http://pgp.rivertown.net/ Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMk1WQiGB07hAGnFhAQF3GwP/dt1nslnSCAkcaEQjfJQOrDnqhevQOtqz VBipzKJNp3lGEQIMUAxMitYE1rACIqJU4PmMF/rVQ3e+JX11PVTqCV23UrMe0M5s GUHqTPW+ag/QHCyhpcCIEhXOwn84ZceoRSo6Unf1jwF5QTAqGwZTTE2Lh9g0XC2a Q09tc5iGMfY= =cQaq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, jasoneng@interl.net Misc Links : http://jfs.home.ml.org/ Linux Links : http://necro.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13005; Sat, 28 Sep 96 10:10:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA18312 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 10:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA18307 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 10:09:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v72qM-00038XC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 10:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 25 Sep 1996 11:41:23 GMT Message-Id: <52b5p3$lv4@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ignore Article canceled by slrn 0.9.0.0 (BETA) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18900; Sat, 28 Sep 96 10:10:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA09700 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 10:09:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA09695 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 10:09:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v72qI-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 10:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 25 Sep 1996 11:41:14 GMT Message-Id: <52b5oq$lv4@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ignore Article canceled by slrn 0.9.0.0 (BETA) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19471; Sat, 28 Sep 96 11:26:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA10630 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:24:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA10625 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:24:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v742z-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 11:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:30:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 28 Sep 1996, Jennifer Doherty wrote: > How do you use talk or chat in pine 3.89. You don't (with any version of Pine). Talk and chat are independent programs that have nothing to do with Pine. There may be other newsgroups that deal with these activities, but your best bet is to inquire of your help desk. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14446; Sat, 28 Sep 96 12:36:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA20189 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 12:34:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA20184 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 12:34:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v756Z-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 12:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bryan Shelton Subject: Problem: IMAP Login/ From Address Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 14:07:35 -0700 Message-Id: <324D9397.49C7@mail.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I recently saw the answer to one of my questions about the login name for the INBOX on an IMAP connection, but I still have a problem with it. My login name on the UNIX server I'm running is "shelton", while my login name for my IMAP account is: "bsshelton". When I send mail, the from address always reads "shelton@mail.utexas.edu" Instead of "bsshelton@mail.utexas.edu". Is there any way to override the default lookup for the local username? -Bryan Shelton From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 13:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12238; Sat, 28 Sep 96 13:11:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA12214 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 13:09:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA12209 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 13:09:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v75hO-00038nC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 13:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Simms Subject: Pine for Win95 crashes when sending Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:27:14 GMT Hi! I am not a regular reader of this newsgroup, but I hope you can help me anyway. We have installed Pine 3.95 for Windows 95 on several public access workstations. When toolbars and dialog boxes are turned on, and we try to send a message, pine crashes with an "invalid instruction" error. If we turn off either dialog boxes or the toolbar it works. I should mention that Pine is running from a Novell server. However, even if it is run from the local hard disk, the same crash occurs. Has anyone encountered this problem? I would appreciate any feedback you can give me. -- Michael Simms Network Services University of Toronto michael.simms@utoronto.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 15:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22204; Sat, 28 Sep 96 15:02:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA22080 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 14:59:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA22075 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 14:59:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v77Ld-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 14:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Baratunde Rafiq Thurston" Subject: moving INBOX to another account Date: 28 Sep 1996 17:24:03 GMT Message-Id: <01bbad63$18e13300$59b1f78c@THURSTON.fas.harvard.edu> I am moving my PINE mail to another account (both have v. 3.95), but I am having trouble transporting the INBOX. My folders and addressbook were easy with ftp (simply overwrite the old stuff), but there is no INBOX folder in my home or mail directory. Does anyone know how to move the INBOX over? -- ___________________________________________________________________ _ _______ __ ( )__ __/_ ______ ___/ /__ Baratunde Rafiq Thurston '99 \| / / / / / / _ \/ __ / _ \ thurston@fas.harvard.edu / / / /_/ / / / / /_/ / __/ http://hcs.harvard.edu/~thurston /_/ \__,_/_/ /_/\__,_/\___/LB ================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 15:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22490; Sat, 28 Sep 96 15:59:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA14353 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 15:54:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA14348 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 15:54:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v78G9-00038TC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 15:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dunlap@scus1.ctstateu.edu (Michael Dunlap) Subject: Filtering with pine Date: 28 Sep 1996 19:36:16 GMT Message-Id: <52jung$auc@csunet.ctstateu.edu> Hi, guys and gals, I was hoping to find some help. Does anyone know how to use PINE (if it can be used) to filter incoming mail? I've been recieving a lot of scam mail from the good old folks at interramp and AOL, and I would like to put up some sort of filtering system. So if any of you know how, please drop me a line at: dunlap@scus1.ctstateu.edu Thanks for the help! -Mike -- Michael Dunlap ============== "Man against God, God against Man. Man against Nature, Nature against Man. God against Nature, Nature against God. Funny religion, no?" -Suzuki From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22487; Sat, 28 Sep 96 16:24:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA23148 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:22:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA23143 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:22:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v78ev-000391C; Sat, 28 Sep 96 16:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: INBOX error Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:45:21 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 26 Sep 1996, Mitch Baltuch wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Mitch, > > Are you using IMAP or local access to the INBOXes? > > We are not using IMAP. We are running on Sparc10's using sendmail. > Are the INBOXes NFS mounted? If so, you are probably running into file locking failures. Pine does the best it can, but over NFS it is a no-win situation. Converting to IMAP access for remote folders will alleviate the locking problems. FWIW, The last reports I've heard indicate that Sun will be deprecating NFS access to mail in favor of IMAP in their next generation of mail software... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19907; Sat, 28 Sep 96 16:38:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA14813 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:36:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA14805 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:36:01 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 29 Sep 96 07:41:18 +0800 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 07:32:40 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Michael Dunlap Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering with pine In-Reply-To: <52jung$auc@csunet.ctstateu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Sep 1996, Michael Dunlap wrote: > Hi, guys and gals, I was hoping to find some help. Does anyone know > how to use PINE (if it can be used) to filter incoming mail? I've been > recieving a lot of scam mail from the good old folks at interramp and > AOL, and I would like to put up some sort of filtering system. > So if any of you know how, please drop me a line at: > dunlap@scus1.ctstateu.edu If you read this newsgroup before posting you may have noticed... From pobart@access.digex.net Sun Sep 29 07:31:11 1996 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:25:13 -0400 From: Paul O Bartlett To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering messages On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Balaji C Krishnan wrote: > I am on a unix system. I am now on multiple mailing lists and > receive close to 150 mails a day. I was wondering if I may be able to > setup a filtering system such that the mails from the listservs can be > saved in separate folders. [...] Yes, this is easy to do with tools such as procmail (which I use) and filter. You do not need any shell scripts for procmail. Nancy McGough has a lot of good information on how to set up mail filtering. If you have a WWW browser, browse my home page: I have a link to Nancy's site (and a mirror) where you can get a lot of directions. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23206; Sat, 28 Sep 96 17:16:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA15278 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:15:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA15273 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:15:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v79Sc-00038XC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 17:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mitch Baltuch Subject: Re: INBOX error Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:50:24 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, David L Miller wrote: > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:45:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: David L Miller > To: Mitch Baltuch > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: INBOX error > > Are the INBOXes NFS mounted? If so, you are probably running into > file locking failures. Pine does the best it can, but over NFS it is > a no-win situation. Converting to IMAP access for remote folders will > alleviate the locking problems. They are NFS mounted, but I don't believe that that is the problem. We had others using pine on other workstations with NFS mounted spools and they did not experience the same problem I am seeing until I switched them over to CDE, under Solaris 2.5. Originally, we thought it might be amd timeouts (we use amd, rather than automounter), but we disproved that one. It may still turn out to be lock contention, but it will probably be caused by something other than NFS (although I have been wrong before :-). I have pine running with -d9 set and we will see if that tells us anything. > FWIW, The last reports I've heard indicate that Sun will be > deprecating NFS access to mail in favor of IMAP in their next > generation of mail software... Oh goodie. Something else to install :-). Mitch _______________________________________________________________________________ Mitchell S. Baltuch Unidata Program Center Software Engineer Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research mitch@unidata.ucar.edu WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/ Java Resource Page: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/mitch/java.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23545; Sat, 28 Sep 96 17:16:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA23758 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:15:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA23753 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:15:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v79Vh-00038qC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 17:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Why is my .addressbook ReadOnly? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:02:31 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 26 Sep 1996, (TSI)Ty Haeber wrote: > I recently installed pine v3.95 on our SunOS machine. When I try to > modify the global addressbook, it is flagged as ReadOnly. The setting in > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf is.... > > global-address-book=/usr/local/sun1/pine3.89/.addressbook > > The file has the correct permissions (666). Am I missing something? Any > help would be greatly appreciated! > All global-address-book's are ReadOnly to simplify access contention problems. If you want to manually update a global addressbook, list it as one of your personal addressbooks. --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23798; Sat, 28 Sep 96 18:07:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA15910 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:05:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA15905 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:05:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7AHZ-00038qC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 18:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Using IMAP to the localhost. Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:23:43 -0700 Message-Id: References: <32483903.167E@kindred.whoi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32483903.167E@kindred.whoi.edu> On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: > I am surprised by my lack of ability to figure this out, so please bare > with this this no doubt supremely easy question. > > I want my mail users when they type "pine" to contact the IMAP server on > the local host and get their mail that way rather than reading from > /var/mail/username (SGI's location). How can I do this? > > I think this is tied up with my inability to figure out how to specify a > remote INBOX on a remote host...whenever I try to add a folder as > "{host.wherever}INBOX" I always get an error about INBOX being used... > That specification is correct. Have you tested the IMAP server manually? You can do this by telnetting to port 143 on the server. If you allow pre-authenticated (rsh) access, try "rsh host.wherever /etc/rimapd". --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11636; Sat, 28 Sep 96 18:32:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA24648 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA24643 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:30:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7Aew-00038qC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 18:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: *** Who knows about Message-ID in pine ? *** Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:27:36 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 24 Sep 1996, Carle Brisson wrote: > I have pine setup on 4 of our servers, one of which is our main mail host. > Using MAPI to connect to main host. All works fine on the mail host. On > the other servers however, the message-ID is broken... it's always > > Message-ID: -100000 > > Anyone have this problem b4? > I've never seen that problem or any reports that were even similar. Does the broken Message-ID appear in the copy of the message in your sent-mail folder? If that copy is normal, some process outside of Pine is corrupting the Message-ID... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23566; Sat, 28 Sep 96 18:32:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA16202 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:30:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA16197 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:30:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7AhP-00038sC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 18:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sherwood@mailhost.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Subject: Re: INBOX error Date: 26 Sep 1996 22:25:37 GMT Message-Id: <52evt1$75i@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: Mitch Baltuch (mitch@unidata.ucar.edu) wrote: : Hi, : We are running pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.5 and having a recurring problem. : One or more times a day, pine complains of an INBOX access error, which : can only be cleared by killing and restarting pine. It started as we : moved our users over to CDE. I have eliminated the AMD automounter as the : cause, and we have tried a number of kernel patches that we thought might : help. Unfortunately, nothing seems to work. Anyone else having this : problem, or does anyone have a solution? Yes we have it here also. I think it's something to do with the way nfs mounted spool files work. I solved it by having procmail deliver everything to my mail directory. Procmail and pine seem to be very good about keeping out of eachother's way, and honoring file locks. -- Sherwood Botsford |Unsolicited email that advertises commercial Physics Dept |activities will consitute a request for U of Alberta |spellchecking of all words of less than three Edmonton, AB, |characters. I charge $US500 for this service. T6G 2J1 |There is no warranty of correctness of this service. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 20:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18320; Sat, 28 Sep 96 20:05:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA17289 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 20:03:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA17284 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 20:03:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7C8d-00038XC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 20:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: help Date: 28 Sep 1996 23:06:42 GMT Message-Id: <52kb22$73u@due.unit.no> References: In article , Ed Greshko wrote: >On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Patricia A. Smith wrote: > >> my time is off when ever I send mail. I have been told the time is wrong. >> The time right now is 8:56. Please help me if you can. > > Well, your date line showed: > >Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:56:50 -0700 (MST) No, that was not in the Date: line, that was at the end of the Path:. There was a Date: line too, which showed 21:00:00 or something. My wild guess at what is happening: Your (Patricia's) Date: header is first in your message. There is an error in whatever program generates the original "Path:" header, such that it does not end in an end-of-line, and therefore your original Date: header ends up on the end of the Path: line. A little later, your message will be transfered to the server, which will believe there is no Date: in your message, and generate its own. Possibly the starting Path: is in a file somewhere, and someone has used an editor which does not automatically put EOL characters at the end of a file (I recall xedit doesn't, at least.) Ask your system administrator to fix this. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 20:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25152; Sat, 28 Sep 96 20:05:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA25686 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 20:03:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA25681 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 20:03:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7C8o-00038qC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 20:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: question Date: 28 Sep 1996 22:53:49 GMT Message-Id: <52ka9t$6bh@due.unit.no> References: In article , David M. Kessler wrote: >I have a problem with pine. I subscribed to the newsgroup alt.baldspot, >and it didn't work, so I tried it again 3 more times, and it worked the >third time. Now I "?alt.baldspot" shows up on my screen 3 times, and I >can't delete them. I've tried unsubscribing them, but everytime I go back >onto pine they come back. Can you help? Strange. I suggest you try "pico .newsrc" from your UNIX prompt to edit the file containing the list of newsgroups directly, and delete the extra lines. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12925; Sat, 28 Sep 96 21:17:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA26490 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:14:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA26485 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:14:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7DFW-00038XC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 21:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Hereth Subject: Re: changing from adress Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:59:49 +0200 Message-Id: <324786E5.965128A@aeeo.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> References: <32472191.3A44@the-simpsons.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nicholas Sinikoski wrote: > > in the "From" field/ can this be > changed in any way???? > Add a "From:..."-header to the customized headers. If this doesn't work you have to recompile pine after changing the option ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM in the file pine/osdep/os-***.h (*** stands for your operating system). -- Ralf Hereth From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03908; Sat, 28 Sep 96 21:20:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA26535 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:16:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA26530 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:16:24 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 29 Sep 96 12:21:42 +0800 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 12:13:01 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Orjan Johansen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: <52kb22$73u@due.unit.no> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-843970381=:3063" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-843970381=:3063 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Sep 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > In article , > Ed Greshko wrote: > >On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Patricia A. Smith wrote: > > > >> my time is off when ever I send mail. I have been told the time is wrong. > >> The time right now is 8:56. Please help me if you can. > > > > Well, your date line showed: > > > >Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:56:50 -0700 (MST) > > No, that was not in the Date: line, that was at the end of the Path:. > There was a Date: line too, which showed 21:00:00 or something. Try not to say "no" too quickly. It is more approriate to say something along the lines of "that is not what I'm seeing". I'm telling you what I see. I've attached the full message from Patricia which showed up in my mail. I don't normally read the newsgroup but read the gatewayed email. So, to me, everything looks fine....and I dare say the header show it. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. 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Date: 25 Sep 1996 22:00:34 GMT Message-Id: <52ca22$179@linet06.li.net> When I try to access PINE from my main menu, I get the following message: Problem detected: "Received abort signal". Pine Exiting. Abort (core dumped) why? what does this mean? Is it PINE's fault, my fault, my ISP's fault. I have access through Suffolknet ( A free non graphical interface for anyone living in Suffolk County New York). Please help me, I would ask you to reply personally, but I cant read my mail!!!!! Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26086; Sat, 28 Sep 96 21:42:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA26854 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:39:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA26849 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:39:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7Ddk-00038qC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 21:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.95: problem with locking file Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:51:11 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The answer to your question is: You can not, because this decision is not under Pine's control. These locks are between Pine and sendmail's delivery program (usually /bin/mail). The authors of /bin/mail (or whatever you used) decided that their lock is on /var/spool/mail. If Pine is to lock against the sendmail delivery program, it must write the locks that the sendmail delivery program uses. Of course, you can modify the Pine source code, but if you don't also modify the /bin/mail source code with corresponding changes then there is no locking between Pine and sendmail. "No locking between Pine and sendmail" is the situation you have now; that is why you are getting a warning message. In older versions of Pine, you got no warning message. You just didn't have locking unless your /bin/mail respected the 4.3BSD flock() convention on /var/spool/mail (very few systems do this today since it doesn't work over NFS), and every so often you would get lost messages or other mail file corruption. What you need to do is permit world write access on /var/spool/mail with the sticky bit; that is, protection 1777. Pine also has a separate lock against other invocations of Pine; these use /tmp. That's right, there are *TWO* locks. On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Mihai Ibanescu wrote: > What do I have to do to make Pine understand that I want the lok > files in /tmp, and not in /var/spool/mail/xxxxxx.MyServer? > > I have this error every time I enter Pine and my mailbox is not empty: > > [Error creating/var/spool/mail/misa.lock.843667486.10412.thor.infoiasi.ro: > Permission denied... > > I assume that I have to modify something in the sources and recompile > Pine. But I don't know where. > > Please respond to misa@infoiasi.ro > > > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20540; Sat, 28 Sep 96 21:42:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA18692 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA18687 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:39:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7DcU-00038XC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 21:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcschw@minerva.cis.yale.edu Subject: error 452?? Date: 29 Sep 1996 04:17:30 GMT Message-Id: <52kt8q$nlh@news.ycc.yale.edu> i'm running into a problem with pine -- trying to send mail, but nothing is going -- the system keeps returning an error 452 -- anybody know what this is?? please reply via email (i can still receive, just not send). tia, --marc s. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25777; Sat, 28 Sep 96 23:31:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA27983 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:29:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA27978 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:29:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7FKy-00038qC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 23:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meacham@teleport.com (Guy Meacham) Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails Date: 29 Sep 1996 06:18:40 GMT Message-Id: <52l4c0$9k2@nadine.teleport.com> References: <52ipts$f2o@cronkite.cisco.com> On 28 Sep 1996 09:08:12 GMT Abhay Roy wrote: : Zhenghao Yeh (yeh@netcom.com) wrote: : : Not only pine, but all the mailers I know so far, CAN'T do this. : I dont know about pine bur Pegasus will do this just fine. I use Pine to read and weed out e mail then Pegasus to save wanted mail and write mail. guy. -- Guy Meacham.......................finger -l meacham@teleport.com Rippingale Nursery...............http://www.teleport.com/~meacham/ . "Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts." -- Vice President Dan Quayle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08057; Sat, 28 Sep 96 23:47:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA28140 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:44:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA28135 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:44:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7FYU-00038qC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 23:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? Date: 29 Sep 1996 01:29:01 -0500 Message-Id: <52l4vd$bsr@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Ed Greshko wrote: > On 25 Sep 1996, jbenny wrote: > > > When I post to a newsgroup, in the index of the newsgroup, instead of > > showing my name, the line "To:" appears. How can I correct this? > > There is *nothing* to correct. This question pops up many > times a week. It leads one to wonder if anyone actually reads the > replies, etc..... It also leads one to wonder if it was such a good feature to add in the first place. Maybe it should have been a selectable option, rather than the default. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25447; Sat, 28 Sep 96 23:48:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA20084 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:44:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA20079 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:44:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7FYm-00038sC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 23:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? (fwd) Date: 29 Sep 1996 01:37:25 -0500 Message-Id: <52l5f5$gsb@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Ed Greshko wrote: > I err'd and missed Cc'ing the group. > > Credit should go where credit is due.... > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > At the Main Menu type "S" (Setup) then "C" (Configuration) and look > > through the options for "index-format". Put your cursor on this entry and > > type "?" to read the built-in help about it. > > > > Assuming you are otherwise happy with the layout of the Index screen you > > can change things to as you want them by noting the default value used: > > > > index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROMORTO(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) > > > > and setting a value based very closely on this: > > > > index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) > > Now there's a "power" user! That is a great tip from Mike, but considering the weekly number of questions regarding this issue, it would seem that a more nature default (by which I mean the one that people expect initially) would have been the index format that Mike shows in the second line, not the actual default. Then, true power users could change their index format so that it uses the fromorto while the newbies get the behavior they expect. No, I'm not saying that people should be excused from reading the documentation and I certainly don't feel there's any excuse for the FAQs this newsgroup sees, but it does seem to be an unfortunate choice for a default. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13088; Sat, 28 Sep 96 23:53:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA20149 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:49:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA20144 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:49:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7Ff1-00038qC; Sat, 28 Sep 96 23:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ruthanne@unix.sri.com (Ruth Anne Ladue) Subject: Enabling the mbox driver Date: 25 Sep 1996 11:22:51 -0700 Message-Id: <52bt9r$8qe@unix.sri.com> We are transitioning our MM users to pine, and we would like for the user to be able to continue to use their existing mbox files as INBOX. The FAQ mentions having to enable the mbox driver to allow this, but does not mention where the driver can be found. I've checked the tech notes and all the group archives, and I can not find any reference to where the driver can be found. Can someone enlighten me? Thanks, --Ruth Anne Ruth Anne Ladue ruthanne@unix.sri.com -- --Ruth Anne From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25965; Sun, 29 Sep 96 00:49:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA28833 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:44:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA28828 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:44:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7GVu-00038VC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 00:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adm_oaep@mozart.inet.co.th (Wasu Srisanan) Subject: cmsg cancel <52ca15$82k@chopin.inet.co.th> Control: cancel <52ca15$82k@chopin.inet.co.th> Date: 29 Sep 1996 02:17:33 GMT Message-Id: <52km7t$jbd@chopin.inet.co.th> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27305; Sun, 29 Sep 96 00:49:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA20814 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:44:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA20809 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:44:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7GWD-00038sC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 00:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adm_oaep@mozart.inet.co.th (Wasu Srisanan) Subject: cmsg cancel <52ca15$82k@chopin.inet.co.th> Control: cancel <52ca15$82k@chopin.inet.co.th> Date: 29 Sep 1996 02:16:56 GMT Message-Id: <52km6o$jbd@chopin.inet.co.th> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16602; Sun, 29 Sep 96 00:51:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA28895 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:49:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA28890 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:49:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7Gap-00038VC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 00:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Booth Subject: changing the From: address when using Pine Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:23:30 GMT Message-Id: <843690210.25169.0@annex1-14.mcc.ac.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- OK, this is bending my brain a bit, and I'd like some help/ideas to tell me if what I want done can be done *cleanly* :-). I have a machine, which has a hostname (and obviously an email domain) which I want to keep intact for other users of the machine. So, my machine has say, an A address of machine-1.domain.com. Which is fine, or should be. But I have a different email address at machine-2.domain.org, which I want to use instead of pabooth@machine-1.domain.com. I thought it would be possible using re-writing rules in Sendmail, which I did, and which works fine for mail, elm and probably mush. Trouble is, I'm using pine, and it doesn't work. Is there any way of doing this? I'd like to keep some of the features of pine like looking in the passwd fine to qualify addresses and such. I know that setting: 'user-domain' = machine-2.domain.org would work but this would mean that any unqualified mail would be made up as users@machine-2.domain.org which isn't the local machine so is defeating the objecting. I could turn this off using 'compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs' but I wouldn't get local lookup then :-). Argh. Why can't pine just let sendmail rewrite headers? :-). Just out of interest, if I was to set 'compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs' it would override 'quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file' wouldn't it? Cheers for your time, Paul. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: ascii Comment: original Grumpy Networking Associates production iQEVAwUBMkmur5PjSkqddB+RAQEy3Qf9EXGQVpQ9i9YNHDWdadJLrrnFVS502orS svJp69KFgtw2YOZhm6dtZZ0UThpi/r54TMk0RBUaeqbpsZwiebzTUGxxOB4H10It NDo9gdSxGAujjXhI6TQGXJSqL1UtdYK57bsFWLD9USGTAxyT/+XmZoQ3GSbvhcxI W0M6q/dVuSacZk2UZJcXJ+wX6RivnuFUKNwDUmwPX2SqNATy1rHSC61tG7YrBHoc RQITAvUFcD8HqUEwAhlgZ0H6ZDB473MNMn6te0LN6I2OUrp3IImNYj4B48yWGvFw 2vIdJd68X4BjdnlvJdXXCs3DAYWYrAJFRbD3dTxvCOcrDzXkaYyNhg== =ixBd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27372; Sun, 29 Sep 96 01:06:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA29041 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:04:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA29036 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:04:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7Gnd-00038WC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Filtering with pine Date: 29 Sep 1996 06:10:41 GMT Message-Id: <52l3t1$c3j@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <52jung$auc@csunet.ctstateu.edu> Un jour, Michael Dunlap (dunlap@scus1.ctstateu.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | Hi, guys and gals, I was hoping to find some help. Does anyone know | how to use PINE (if it can be used) to filter incoming mail? PINE is only a mail user agent. It doesn't provide any facilities to filter incoming mail. On UNIX platforms, try man procmail and man filter. The latter comes with the ELM distribution. HTH.... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ La surface la plus passionnante de la terre, c'est, pour nous, celle du visage humain. -- G.C. Lichtenberg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27366; Sun, 29 Sep 96 01:06:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA21025 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:04:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA21020 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:04:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7Gn8-00038VC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 00:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Subject: Re: Multiple pine.conf files Date: 24 Sep 1996 02:36:52 GMT Message-Id: <527hg4$67e@news.asu.edu> References: Jeffrey Goldberg (cc047@ecs.pc.Cranfield.ac.uk) wrote: : I know what people will probably answer, but maybe someone has a clever : solution. : Starting very soon we will have two imap servers, one which new : users will be set up on (call it mainhost) and another which is also : working as a kpop (Kerberos POP3) server (call it oldhost) which contains : a hacked imap server so that it sits well next to DECAthena's kpop server [rest snipped] Do what A.S.U. does. Have an environment variable called $IMAPSERVER set in each user's .profile (or .cshrc depending on what shell is in use.) Next, in the pine.conf.fixed, define the user-domain as $IMAPSERVER. With this scheme, A.S.U. has managed to divide their users up ammong 3 imap servers. -- Adam Myrow From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27145; Sun, 29 Sep 96 01:06:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA21032 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:04:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA21027 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:04:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7Gnf-00038sC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Problem: IMAP Login/ From Address Date: 29 Sep 1996 06:08:45 GMT Message-Id: <52l3pd$c3j@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <324D9397.49C7@mail.utexas.edu> Un jour, Bryan Shelton (bsshelton@mail.utexas.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | When I send mail, the from address always reads "shelton@mail.utexas.edu" | Instead of "bsshelton@mail.utexas.edu". Using IMAP doesn't bring you to your remote account. It only gives you access to that account. Therefore, whenever you reply to a mail, your current e-mail is given as the sender. HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ La surface la plus passionnante de la terre, c'est, pour nous, celle du visage humain. -- G.C. Lichtenberg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 02:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17436; Sun, 29 Sep 96 02:06:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA29750 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 02:04:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA29745 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 02:04:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7Hk3-00038VC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 02:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gareth Boden Subject: Re: hiding To: addresses Date: 20 Sep 1996 11:23:39 +0100 Message-Id: References: Scabby writes: > I created a list in addressbook, but every time I use it it shows all the > addresses on the list so the receiver has to scroll through the other > names to get to the body of the message. Is there a way to hide that? Use the Bcc field. -- __ /| Gareth Boden (my opinions are my own) \'o.O' .. APM Ltd, Poseidon House, Castle Park, CAMBRIDGE, England, UK. =(___)= .... gdb@ansa.co.uk | http://squeak.fitz.cam.ac.uk/~gdb20/ U ...... What if there were no hypothetical questions? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 02:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27612; Sun, 29 Sep 96 02:06:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA21720 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 02:04:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA21715 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 02:04:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7HkB-00038WC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 02:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gareth Boden Subject: Re: Mark mail read Date: 20 Sep 1996 11:31:40 +0100 Message-Id: References: <51rp0v$hkg@capella.hkstar.com> chiyung@b1.hkstar.com (Chan Chi Yung) writes: > I wonder if there is a function that can mark all mail read, if it did, > it save me a lot of time! Thanks Make sure you have 'enable-aggregate-command-set' and 'enable-flag-command' on in the setup->config. Then use ; A A * ! N ; A = Select all messages A * = Apply flag command to selection ! N = Flag as 'not new' *wavie* Gareth -- __ /| Gareth Boden (my opinions are my own) \'o.O' .. APM Ltd, Poseidon House, Castle Park, CAMBRIDGE, England, UK. =(___)= .... gdb@ansa.co.uk | http://squeak.fitz.cam.ac.uk/~gdb20/ U ...... What if there were no hypothetical questions? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 05:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28984; Sun, 29 Sep 96 05:22:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA23829 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 05:19:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA23824 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 05:19:18 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 29 Sep 96 20:24:36 +0800 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:15:57 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Tim Mooney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <52l5f5$gsb@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Sep 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > No, I'm not saying that people should be excused from reading the > documentation and I certainly don't feel there's any excuse for the FAQs > this newsgroup sees, but it does seem to be an unfortunate choice for a > default. You may be right that it was an unfortunate choice....but I'm sure the creators had their reasons. Maybe it was to satisfy the needs of the folks paying the bill for writing pine? In any case, pine has gotten so "feature rich" that it seems quite impossible to please everyone with the default settings. I, for one, am happy with that particular default setting. Maybe that is why I didn't investigate how to change it. (Narrow minded on my part I must say....) But anyway, you have to credit the pine folks for giving you plenty of features and allowing you the flexibility to change things as you see fit. All for the amazing low price of *free*. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 05:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29382; Sun, 29 Sep 96 05:30:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA02040 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 05:27:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA02035 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 05:27:47 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 29 Sep 96 20:14:32 +0800 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:05:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Gareth Boden Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: hiding To: addresses In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Sep 1996, Gareth Boden wrote: > Scabby writes: > > > I created a list in addressbook, but every time I use it it shows all the > > addresses on the list so the receiver has to scroll through the other > > names to get to the body of the message. Is there a way to hide that? > > Use the Bcc field. Or the Lcc field....which may yield better results since if you forget to put something in the To: field when you use the Bcc field you may endup with sendmail adding an "Apparently-To:" field. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 06:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28245; Sun, 29 Sep 96 06:39:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA02758 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 06:35:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA02753 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 06:35:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7M15-00038uC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 06:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Adam H. Kerman" Subject: Re: Canned Message Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:15:11 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: >From: Linda Emerson >Date: 27 Sep 1996 21:25:41 -0700 >What program generates the following message & why? >"Reposting article removed by rogue canceller" >Earlier this week, there were a number of "cancelled messages" in my >inbox; then during the week I noticed a number of messages that contained >this message as the first line. Just curious. That was Chris Lewis, resurrecting as many article as possible. comp.mail.pine (and its mirror, the pine-info mailing list) were hit by the rogue canceller. Excerpts from his article: Over the weekend, someone using sophisticated cancel-generating software posted nearly 30,000 cancels forged in the name of the original posters. The cancels purport to be legitimate spam/advisory cancellations, but, it is clear that they weren't. It appears that someone ran a program that simply listened into inbound Usenet on a server, and generated cancels for every article it saw in the groups it was listening to. The cancels were labeled with "tags" indicating why they were cancelled, but these tags were simply labels assigned to the groups the program was listening to. If it was a alt.sex group, it got "twatcancel". If it was a comp.* group, it got "geekcancel". In essence, then, in the jargon of news.admin.net-abuse.misc, a Usenet-wide UDP (cancel every article in usenet) was operating for a time. As of this date, then, 18304 articles were resurrected from 27474 cancels. To follow the discussion, read Chris Lewis's full article, with the subject "Massive cancel attack report" in news.admin.net-abuse.announce or news.admin.net-abuse.misc. The discussion takes place in the latter newsgroup. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 09:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30451; Sun, 29 Sep 96 09:14:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA26139 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 09:10:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA26131 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 09:10:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7OQF-00038BC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 09:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert mail address lists between mailers Date: 29 Sep 1996 16:00:21 GMT Message-Id: <52m6el$o1g@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora, Netscape, Pine and Elm All possible translations are supported. You can find these at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 10:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31671; Sun, 29 Sep 96 10:47:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA05617 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 10:45:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA05612 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 10:45:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7Pu9-00038BC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 10:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: Please, help me with 8bit subjects in Pine. Date: 29 Sep 1996 11:28:50 -0400 Message-Id: <52m4ji$7b6@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: <52hebn$mo1@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Jungshik Shin wrote: : Alexander S. Urakov wrote: : : Pine. Most users in our country use mail packages which allow to display : : only 8bit plain text in Subject and message body. So how can I force Pine : : to send Subject in 8bit plain text format?? And without -- [KOI8-R] at : : begin of line?? : Sorry, it's impossible. 8bit characters in mail header including : Subject is explicitely prohibited by RFC 1522 and STD 10/11 and : Pine strictly adheres to those standard and doesn't allow 8bit : characters in mail header without B/Q encoding as specified in I guess it's not so bad an idea to add options, 'Allow 8bit header in News posting' and 'Allow 8bit header in mail message' since sometimes sending 8bit header is necessary as in case of recipients without MIME-compliant MUAs although '8bit header' is prohibited. News article can make a better case for allowing 8bit header as all but few news server have trouble passing through 8bit characters in both header and body of articles and in some part of the world as (implicitely) permitted(?) in "son of RFC 1036", it's established that both header and body can contain 8bit characters and quite many news readers cannot handle B/Q encoded header, making a good case for a new option 'allow 8bit header in news posting'. These two options are already used in other Mail/News reader like MS Internet News/Mail and Tin 1.3 unoff-beta. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 12:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32527; Sun, 29 Sep 96 12:38:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA28665 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 12:34:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id MAA28660 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 12:34:53 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA10904; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 12:34:49 -0700 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 12:34:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jungshik Shin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Please, help me with 8bit subjects in Pine. In-Reply-To: <52m4ji$7b6@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Safe transfer of 8bit characters is only one of the issues. Another is the charset labelling. Unless a sender (either naively or arrogantly) assumes that all recipients of a message use the same charset as the sender, it must be idenitified in the header/text. RFC-1522 specifies how to do that, and the need for charset labelling makes MIME essential even if you postulate an 8bit-clean transmission path. -teg On 29 Sep 1996, Jungshik Shin wrote: > Jungshik Shin wrote: > : Alexander S. Urakov wrote: > > : : Pine. Most users in our country use mail packages which allow to display > : : only 8bit plain text in Subject and message body. So how can I force Pine > : : to send Subject in 8bit plain text format?? And without -- [KOI8-R] at > : : begin of line?? > > : Sorry, it's impossible. 8bit characters in mail header including > : Subject is explicitely prohibited by RFC 1522 and STD 10/11 and > : Pine strictly adheres to those standard and doesn't allow 8bit > : characters in mail header without B/Q encoding as specified in > > I guess it's not so bad an idea to add options, > 'Allow 8bit header in News posting' and 'Allow > 8bit header in mail message' since sometimes > sending 8bit header is necessary as in case of recipients without > MIME-compliant MUAs although '8bit header' is prohibited. > News article can make a better case for allowing 8bit header > as all but few news server have trouble passing through > 8bit characters in both header and body of articles and > in some part of the world as (implicitely) permitted(?) > in "son of RFC 1036", it's established that both header > and body can contain 8bit characters and quite many news > readers cannot handle B/Q encoded header, making a good case > for a new option 'allow 8bit header in news posting'. > These two options are already used in other Mail/News > reader like MS Internet News/Mail and Tin 1.3 unoff-beta. > > Jungshik Shin > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 13:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00499; Sun, 29 Sep 96 13:25:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA07521 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 13:22:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from net161-61.student.yale.edu (net161-61.student.yale.edu [130.132.161.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA07516; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 13:22:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (jungshik@localhost) by net161-61.student.yale.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09393; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:22:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:22:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jungshik Shin Reply-To: jshin@pantheon.yale.edu To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Please, help me with 8bit subjects in Pine. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 29 Sep 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > News article can make a better case for allowing 8bit header > > as all but few news server have trouble passing through > > 8bit characters in both header and body of articles and > > in some part of the world as (implicitely) permitted(?) > > in "son of RFC 1036", it's established that both header > > and body can contain 8bit characters and quite many news > > readers cannot handle B/Q encoded header, making a good case > > for a new option 'allow 8bit header in news posting'. > > These two options are already used in other Mail/News > > reader like MS Internet News/Mail and Tin 1.3 unoff-beta. > > > > Jungshik Shin > Safe transfer of 8bit characters is only one of the issues. > Another is the charset labelling. > > Unless a sender (either naively or arrogantly) assumes that all recipients > of a message use the same charset as the sender, it must be idenitified > in the header/text. RFC-1522 specifies how to do that, and the need for > charset labelling makes MIME essential even if you postulate an 8bit-clean > transmission path. Yes, it's essential to label charset used in header. Sometimes, however, giving users to choose what to do with 8bit chars in header (let them decide whether or not put 8bit chars encoded or as they are) is not a bad idea. That's even more the case for local news groups or particular set of newsgroups in which particular language/charset is assumed to be used. Yet Another Newswatcher for Mac let users specifiy primary charset per newsgroup basis( i.e. For major six hierarchies,fr.*,de.*,and many Western European groups, use ISO-8859-1, han.* for EUC-KR, fj.* for ISO-2022-JP, etc) , so that fonts corresponding to predesignated charset for a particular newsgroup is used automatically without relying on header information, which is sometimes incorrect either due to misconfiguration by user or inability of program and/or ignorance of programmer to put charset name other than ISO-8859-1 in the header). This is quite a nice idea, IMHO. Of course, those primary charsets should be overridable for particular news article. The same mechanism can be used in Pine. If RFC 1522 style-information about charset is missing, assume 8bit chars in header are those in primary charset for that news group. Although less desirable for mail than for news article, similar thing can be done with mail message. I understand it's pretty tough to decide whether to give users more freedom or force(?) them to stick to the standard and that Pine has been on the latter side in most cases. As far as I know, however, allowing 8bit chars in news header is not so grave a violation of the standard as using 8bit chars in mail header mostly because standard/RFCs regarding news article format are outdated and even some RFC-to-be(son of 1036) states that it's permissable to use 8bit chars in closed circle of newsgroups(e.g. local hierarchy. han.* newsgroups have used 8bit EUC-KR in both header and body from the beginning without any problem). Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01905; Sun, 29 Sep 96 15:05:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA08975 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA08970 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:03:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA26734; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:03:21 -0700 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Adam H. Kerman" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: specifying login name for remote folder In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > What is the appropriate syntax for a remote news collection via nntp when a > different user name must be specified? > > I had no luck with *{news.remote.host/nntp/user=login}[] on the news > collections line, with a 2nd machine, news.remote.host, specified on the nntp > line. Pine 3.95 does not currently have that capability, but Pine 4.0 will. --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01667; Sun, 29 Sep 96 15:48:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA01230 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:46:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA01225 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:45:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7UXz-00038BC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 15:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adm_oaep@mozart.inet.co.th (Wasu Srisanan) Subject: Re: OK to install in ~/bin? Date: 29 Sep 1996 02:14:28 GMT Message-Id: <52km24$jbd@chopin.inet.co.th> References: Kingsley G. Morse Jr. (change@nas.com) wrote: | Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. | Has anyone installed pine in the bin subdirectory of their home directory? | And it worked? ;-) | -- | Kingsley G. Morse Jr. -- 3.91 worked. -vasu@oaep.go.th ======== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00023; Sun, 29 Sep 96 16:26:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA01670 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:23:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from snoopy.virtual.net.au (snoopy.apana.org.au [202.12.87.129]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA01665 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:23:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (randy@localhost) by snoopy.virtual.net.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13696 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:29:21 +1000 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:29:20 +1000 (EST) From: andrew clarke X-Sender: randy@snoopy.virtual.net.au To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02760; Sun, 29 Sep 96 16:53:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA01963 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:47:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from peabody.jhu.edu (gigue.peabody.jhu.edu [128.220.102.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA01958 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:47:49 -0700 Received: by peabody.jhu.edu; Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:47:46 EDT Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:47:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: signature: how to use or not use??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII thanks for the good suggestion! Enrico ********************************************************************** *** ** Enrico Degli Esposti Elisi *** E-mail: edeelisi@peabody.jhu.edu ** ***************************** *** ** Peabody Conservatory of Music *** Phone: (410) 837-7982 ** Campus Box #149 *** ** 606 St. Paul Street *** *** ** Baltimore MD 21202-2355 *** ** U.S.A. *** ******* *** ** ***** *** *** ***** ** ********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01220; Sun, 29 Sep 96 18:58:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA11871 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:56:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA11866 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:56:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7XXc-00038UC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 18:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mitch@smithphoto.com (Mitchell Leben) Subject: Re: displaying pine on X!! Date: 25 Sep 1996 17:14:14 GMT Message-Id: <52bp96$kg5@lurch.sccsi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sure, just open an xterm. If you mean is there an X version of Pine, I have no idea. Omar Butaiban decided to say: : can i display pine under xwindows ??????????// : Omar Butaiban -- ---------------------------- Mitchell Leben mitch@smithphoto.com http://snappy.smithphoto.com/~mitch ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02038; Sun, 29 Sep 96 18:58:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA03513 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:56:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA03508 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:56:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7XXj-00038WC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 18:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: akr@cisco.com (Abhay Roy) Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails Date: 28 Sep 1996 09:08:12 GMT Message-Id: <52ipts$f2o@cronkite.cisco.com> References: Zhenghao Yeh (yeh@netcom.com) wrote: : Hi! Expert, : : How can I send broadcasting emails? I have a list of my friends, I want : to send the same email to all of them with one address on each mail : header. What I mean is that there shouldn't be all the addresses in the : header? Can pine do that? Thanks. Not only pine, but all the mailers I know so far, CAN'T do this. The best you can do is something like this. Send the message to YOURSELF, and put the distribution list as bcc. When it reaches all, they will see that mail was sent from you to you !! They won't know, who else got a copy. Later, -Roy- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer Cisco Systems Inc. "Better to understand a little, than to misunderstand a lot." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02395; Sun, 29 Sep 96 18:58:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA11878 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:56:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA11873 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:56:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7XXk-00038XC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 18:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ed Greshko" Subject: Re: ftp pine Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:20:41 +0800 Message-Id: <01bbad40.3480f780$1511b381@edspc17> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > hi , where can i ftp the latest version of pine > and pico ftp.cac.washington.edu > and i want to know are there bugs in the version That's for you to tell us..... (The only software that doesn't have bugs is software that isn't used.) > and are they files that i can ftp them to use them with pine > and pico ..... thanks Not sure what you mean... > and one more thing , i want to know what is the name of the > tar file that i will ftp Its fairly obvious when you got to ftp.cac.washington.edu....... Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23685; Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:23:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA03929 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:21:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA03924 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:21:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7XxN-00038BC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: How can I filter and forward? Date: 29 Sep 1996 13:57:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: <324C53CF.291D@eecs.berkeley.edu> Tze-yau William Ng Huang writes: > I am using PINE 3.91. I would like to learn how to filter > incoming emails and forward them to specific addresses acording > to the originating address. Please email me. ... Use procmail (which may already be installed on your system). It is not part of Pine: Pine is a "mail user agent" (allows you to read mail and prepare mail for sending), not a "mail delivery agent" (which shuffles mail into, out of, or around in your computer system). See for information on procmail, where to get it, and links to other mail filtering information. -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03971; Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:23:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA12314 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:21:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA12309 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:21:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7XyL-00038UC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Balaji C Krishnan Subject: Filtering messages Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:22:02 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am on a unix system. I am now on multiple mailing lists and receive close to 150 mails a day. I was wondering if I may be able to setup a filtering system such that the mails from the listservs can be saved in separate folders. I understand that filtering devices such as Procmail, Elm filter exist. I would like to use Procmail to set it up. One of my friends mentioned that I may have to set up a shell script to do the same. I also understand that it is possible to set up filtering in Eudora. However I am using Pine. Has anybody faced a similar situation (I am sure many would have). Can anybody guide me? Thanks. Balaji ********************************************************************** Balaji C Krishnan 3450, Nicholson Dr. # 2005, Baton Rouge, LA 70802. Good Morning is an oxymoron for any Home # 504 338 0986 Doctoral student and Assistant Professor. Off # 504 388 8797 *********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04157; Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:31:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA04024 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:29:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA04019 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:29:47 -0700 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA23589; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:28:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:29:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma To: Balaji C Krishnan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Don't use anything other than procmail. If you write your own, you risk losing email to an unforseen error, whereas procmail is already setup to check for every know possibility. It is also free, there are vast archives of examples, and a mailing list. Most decent ISPs already have it installed. ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 21:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04884; Sun, 29 Sep 96 21:39:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA05724 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 21:37:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA05719 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 21:37:55 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr27.interl.net [205.244.161.27]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA15620 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:36:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA03700 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:37:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:37:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: displaying pine on X!! In-Reply-To: <52bp96$kg5@lurch.sccsi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 25 Sep 1996, Mitchell Leben wrote: > Sure, just open an xterm. If you mean is there an X version of Pine, I > have no idea. > > Omar Butaiban decided to say: > > > : can i display pine under xwindows ??????????// ...or if you're using fvwm, you can add the following to /usr/lib/X11/fvwm/system.fvwmrc in one of your Popup menu definitions: Exec "Pine" exec xterm -e pine & to run Pine without going to the shell. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMk9OZCGB07hAGnFhAQHs/wP/Ue4dg5Us7xGNJd9NV3XJnDyM6AFAR45A Hcw8wb9I3Mpp/fpF7c3YXj8AAiopNu5LW5o3ogy7pwPnThnSCMsYpRM+C83hH0P9 uhutkr3bI42ehKfQ9N6r2UEBIL0+dLkPmOxPAQ9SKXG2K2CByUkFqxOyM0Loehty hvYMKcw+rX8= =VHCW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, jasoneng@interl.net Misc Links : http://jfs.home.ml.org/ Linux Links : http://necro.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06472; Sun, 29 Sep 96 22:59:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA06685 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:56:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA06680 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:56:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7bKs-00038UC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 22:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: How do you set the return address? Date: 24 Sep 1996 13:22:42 GMT Message-Id: <528nb2$l20@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <51sqa2$1jv@epx.cis.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <525gc0$rq1@steinlager.tip.net>, eubrafo@origo.bahnhof.se (Rabbe Fogelholm) writes: > This explains how to customize the "Reply-to:" header. Would it also > be possible to customize the "From:" header, or is that outside the > scope of a mail client? > > The reason that I am asking is this: At our site we have > platform-independent addresses on our business cards > (Firstname.Lastname@Domain), but the From: header that Pine inserts > looks more like "Firstname Lastname" , which has > caused people to ask me which address to really use when responding. At my site, the mail exchanger alters the "From" line to "First.Last@UC.EDU" and users do not have to worry about it in Pine or other mail agents. Can you ask your sys adm to do the same? Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28004; Sun, 29 Sep 96 23:03:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA15153 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:01:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA15148 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:01:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7bPu-00038TC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 23:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: Tabs in Pico... Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1608@843927663> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 14:54:42 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <1608@843927663> Mime-Version: 1.0 On Sat, 28 Sep 1996, cristobal baray wrote: > Is there a way to adjust the tab size in pico? I'm on a unix box and am > not sure if there's an environment variable I should set that could fix > this - any suggestions? I've also asked this question before, but no one replied me. Perhaps we have to modify the source program to do that. J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30859; Sun, 29 Sep 96 23:04:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA06753 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:01:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA06747 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 1996 23:01:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7bPu-00038UC; Sun, 29 Sep 96 23:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: Filtering with pine Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 14:52:29 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <52jung$auc@csunet.ctstateu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 28 Sep 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 28 Sep 1996, Michael Dunlap wrote: > > > Hi, guys and gals, I was hoping to find some help. Does anyone know > > how to use PINE (if it can be used) to filter incoming mail? I've been [ snipped question ] > If you read this newsgroup before posting you may have noticed... > >From pobart@access.digex.net Sun Sep 29 07:31:11 1996 > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:25:13 -0400 > From: Paul O Bartlett > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Filtering messages > [ snipped answer from Paul ] It may be the case that Michael's News server doesn't carry all the articles in Usenet (this phenomenon is common), or Paul's article arrived late at Michael's News server. J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19967; Mon, 30 Sep 96 01:34:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA17110 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:32:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA17105 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:32:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7djs-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 01:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rogue The Bronze Firelizard Subject: PINE 3.94 Incoming Message Folders Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:22:16 +1200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ok I remember (from before my provaed upgraded pine to 3.94) that I could have remote INBOXs and i had it working, but the inboxs wernt realy remote but made by procmail. but i abbanded it do to the fact i couldn't get procmail installed properls. now things have changed, we have upgraded to 3.94 and due to resent bought of spamming from interamp.com procmail has been installed on the server (instead of evey one that wanted to use it having to install it indavidualy) now i can rember how to set up the out inboxs, 8( help |\ /^~~^\ /| -------------------------------------------------------------qqQ-\O||O/-Qpp-- _ \ __ __| | _ ) \oo/ / _ \ _` | | | -_) | \ -_) _ \ _| _ \ \ _ / -_) ~~ _|_\___/__, |\_,_|___| _| _| _|___| ___/_| \___/_| _\___|___| ____/ __|_) |_) |GRENIER_G@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz _| | _| -_) | |_ / _` | _| _` |http://www.sans.vuw.ac.nz:8099/ _| _|_| \___|_|_|___|__,_|_| \__,_| --------------------------------------------------------------d----------b--- "I'm not suffering from insanity, I'm quite injoying it" \()/ \/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07279; Mon, 30 Sep 96 01:53:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA17330 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:50:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA17322 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:49:57 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:44:53 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) for id JAA12150; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:49:30 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:49:30 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Configuration Problem? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <52l5f5$gsb@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I'm afraid I disagree with the suggestion that the standard index-format be changed to use "From" instead of "Fromorto"... Certainly for e-mail folders Pine has used "Fromorto" for as far back as I can remember. (Some comments made by one person seem to imply that this behaviour has only recently been introduced for newsgroups, however. I can understand and appreciate the Pine Team's desire to continue their harmonisation of mail and news reading and making this change (if, indeed, it has changed).) Neither I nor any of our 10,000+ users seem to have any difficulty with the concept or its use by default. I would hesitate about changing from such a useful default merely because a few voice surpise by its behaviour. I wonder how many people are happy with the behaviour but are silent? (Perhaps I should ask each of our users to send a message to this group saying how happy they are with the current default? ;-) My feelings are that things may be helped somewhat by slightly improved documentation about the action (perhaps reassuring that only the Index Screen display is affected) and perhaps a brief explanation of why the behaviour is this way. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 29 Sep 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > > > Assuming you are otherwise happy with the layout of the Index screen you > > > can change things to as you want them by noting the default value used: > > > > > > index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROMORTO(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) > > > > > > and setting a value based very closely on this: > > > > > > index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) > > > > Now there's a "power" user! > > That is a great tip from Mike, but considering the weekly number of questions > regarding this issue, it would seem that a more nature default (by which I > mean the one that people expect initially) would have been the index format > that Mike shows in the second line, not the actual default. > > Then, true power users could change their index format so that it uses the > fromorto while the newbies get the behavior they expect. > > No, I'm not saying that people should be excused from reading the > documentation and I certainly don't feel there's any excuse for the FAQs > this newsgroup sees, but it does seem to be an unfortunate choice for a > default. > > Tim > -- > Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu > Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) > Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) > North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 02:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27787; Mon, 30 Sep 96 02:35:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA09362 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 02:32:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA09357 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 02:32:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7ed0-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 02:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Pine 3.93 problem with VT100 terminals Message-Id: Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:47:14 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi Pine users, I've been having trouble with Pine 3.93 with my VT100 terminal. I run Pine in a UNIX shell. Normally my terminal is 24 rows in height. But whenever I exit from Pine 3.93, my VT100 terminal becomes 25 rows in height, instead of 24 rows. This ruins my terminal program and makes the screen a mess. I didn't have this problem with Pine 3.91, though. Does anyone know the solution? Thanks in advance. J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 04:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29534; Mon, 30 Sep 96 04:06:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA18750 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 04:03:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA18745 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 04:03:34 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjjw02402; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04497; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:03:09 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00556; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:01:22 -0300 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:01:20 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi , i want to put all .pine-debug files in a certain directory , can any one help please *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 04:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08807; Mon, 30 Sep 96 04:49:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA10994 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 04:44:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.jaring.my (relay1.jaring.my [192.228.128.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA10989 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 04:44:15 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by relay1.jaring.my (8.6.13/8.6.12) with UUCP id TAA06879 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:26:14 +0800 Received: from CYSEE ([33.1.1.21]) by fico.po.my (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA25664 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:11:22 +0800 Message-Id: <199609300911.RAA25664@fico.po.my> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "C Y See" Organization: Fico Asia Sdn Bhd To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:58:22 +8:00 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: faq Reply-To: cysee@fico.po.my X-Confirm-Reading-To: cysee@fico.po.my X-Pmrqc: 1 Return-Receipt-To: cysee@fico.po.my Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) CYSEE TOOL & MOLD DESIGN ENGINEER E-MAIL : CYSEE@FICO.PO.MY TEL : 03-5111799 ext. 1635 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 05:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00652; Mon, 30 Sep 96 05:37:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA19863 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 05:32:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA19858 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 05:32:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7hU1-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 05:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David A. Hollman" Subject: Re: PINE piping into Zmodem Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:19:00 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > I'm reading a msg in a newsgroup. I wish to download it using Zmodem. > Is there a way to pipe it into rz/sz? > > (I currently have to save it into a file, exit PINE, download it, re-enter > PINE. Of course I lose my place where I was last reading.) Make a little script called szpipe or something with the following contents: cat > temp sz temp rm temp Then make sure it's in your path somewhere. You can type szpipe in the pipe field and it should work. --David From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09234; Mon, 30 Sep 96 06:23:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA12067 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:17:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA12061 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:17:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7iBc-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 06:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Evangelos Rigos Subject: CONFIGURATION QUESTION Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 22:05:47 -0700 Message-Id: <324E03AB.841@Rigos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I run pine 3.95. I do have my own domain name Evangelos@Rigos.com but I do not know how to configure pine to use my domain. It always picks up my providers domain name. Any hepl? Evangelos From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09978; Mon, 30 Sep 96 06:46:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA20793 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:42:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA20788 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:42:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7ibq-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 06:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@somerville.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Question related to version 3.95 Date: 30 Sep 1996 13:36:33 GMT Message-Id: References: <51gba6$si6@vnetnews.value.net> butaiban@burgan.Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (roam): > have pine 3.91. is there a new edition for pine Yes. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06827; Mon, 30 Sep 96 07:02:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA12717 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:57:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA12712 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:57:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7ipg-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 06:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: pgp-interface Date: 30 Sep 1996 13:12:27 GMT Message-Id: <52ogvr$3km@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <324C000B.11D7@atpibm6000.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <324C000B.11D7@atpibm6000.tuwien.ac.at>, Tony Wenzelhuemer writes: > Hi out there! > does anyone know if there exists a pine-pgp-interface and where to get > it! I have a web page that describes the use of PGP with Pine (3.92 or newer) on Unix machines (SGI in particular). There is a short (a dozen lines) shell script in this scheme. A few configuration settings in Pine. It is quite simple and easy. Please check it out: http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html Note it is an underline "_", not a hyphen in the filename. Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02769; Mon, 30 Sep 96 07:07:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA21120 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:02:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA21115 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:02:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7iqs-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 06:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Pine for Mac? Date: 30 Sep 1996 13:15:36 GMT Message-Id: <52oh5o$3km@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , Dara Ghahremani writes: > > > Are there any plans to make Pine for Macintosh? > > I'm sure this is a common question, though, I haven't seen any info about > this anywhere. Good question! I have the impression that the Pine team does not have a plan to port it to Mac. It is a pitty. Alternatively, you may want to try "MailDrop" on Mac if you want to do IMAP. I like the alpha version (1.2a???) a lot, but my main use is Unix Pine. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09832; Mon, 30 Sep 96 07:38:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA13277 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:27:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA13272 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:27:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7jHP-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 07:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meyerbos@best.com (Joe Luttrell) Subject: Domain name v ISP Date: 30 Sep 1996 07:15:56 -0700 Message-Id: <52okms$f90@shellx.best.com> When I send an e-mail message in Pine, my ISP defaults to show it coming from meyerbos@best.com I would like to change this to show it coming from my domain name at Best and would like it to appear as rarelaw@meyerbos.com How can I do this? Many thanks, Joe Luttrell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10657; Mon, 30 Sep 96 07:41:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA21334 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:11:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gcom.com (gcom.com [199.97.226.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA21317 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:11:22 -0700 Received: from mikel.gcom.com by gcom.com (8.7.5/3.1.090690-GCOM) id PAA00977; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:04:13 GMT Received: (from mikel@localhost) by mikel.gcom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA01718 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:06:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:06:41 -0500 From: "Mikel L. Matthews" Message-Id: <199609301406.JAA01718@mikel.gcom.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bug in pine 3.95 I am reporting a bug in the 3.95 version of pine. Below are two uuencoded files. The first one is an original version of the file, the second one is the same, but it was sent through pine 3.95. The last line of the second entry has the "#.H" converted to "#..H". Sorry for such a long listing, but we felt that you needed the file (we removed the last 2500 lines of each file). The rest of the file had the same problem. Certain places had the "." converted to a "..". I am sending this with the regular mailer, not pine to let you see the problem. My OS is linux 2.0.18. 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M^^2\V"S6H\B!*N1]W^X^\>L@CX;M2_]]$/HAZG+,!PKF4]%G]O@ZC,<;E^T% M&V@7V?^R-!H&Y` Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11485; Mon, 30 Sep 96 08:07:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA22188 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:02:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA22177 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:02:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7jo8-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 07:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: I need some help Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:49:53 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 24 Sep 1996, Jaclyn Miche Marino wrote: > My first question is can I change my password, and if so how. Second, my > inbox says(read only) and I tried quitting and reentering pine bit it did > not help. Can someone please try to answer my questions and get back to > me soon. Thank you. -Jaclyn Marino 1 - Change your password by typing passwd in UNIX/Linux/whatever. 2 - It's because there is another Pine session running that needs to be quit. Nathan --- Nathan Richards, aka. Sunspot on Efica MUD (telnet 195.92.35.130 4000) Also known as Xoron on IRC (Undernet, DALnet, sometimes EFNet if you're lucky) Email: nathan@phish.nether.net or bm782@torfree.net WWW: http://www.naples.net/~nfn04143/Nathan/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15967; Mon, 30 Sep 96 10:43:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA27102 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:38:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA27097 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:38:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7mGu-00038TC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 10:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: Undelete??? Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:25:55 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 29 Sep 1996, Colleen Bridge wrote: > > Is it possible to undelete files in pine?? I deleted all of my files by > mistake (long story) and want them back, some are very important to me > (longer story) :) > > Any help is appreciated! > Colleen 'the bee' Contact your ISP. You can usually get a copy of any deleted files from their backups if you're quick about it (within 24-48 hours). Aside from that, Unix isn't very forgiving with deletes. Good Luck Harry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19254; Mon, 30 Sep 96 12:44:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA00785 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:41:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smtp.interlog.com (smtp.interlog.com [198.53.145.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id MAA00780 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:41:16 -0700 Received: from gold.interlog.com (gold.interlog.com [198.53.145.2]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.7.6/8.7.6) with ESMTP id PAA02282 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gold.interlog.com (gold.interlog.com [198.53.145.2]) by gold.interlog.com (8.7.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA17513 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:41:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Steven Bamber To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bugs reporting Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi sir it is me steven.I am a blind computer user. I am an user of the pine software that is on my internet vendor. Recently I have been getting an error message in this program which is error 25. This error tells me that I cannot send email on the internet. How do I get rid of this error message. I do notice that I get this message from time to time when I am sending email on the internet to other people who use this ervice. If you have any feedback on this thing it would be helpful to me with the info. I will look for my mail during the week. So good by for now. Your friend, Steven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20988; Mon, 30 Sep 96 14:28:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA25404 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:23:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA25399 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:23:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7pka-00038TC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 14:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flash@io.org (Sheldon Gordon) Subject: HELP!! Can't send e-mail to Mac Date: 17 Sep 1996 18:51:50 GMT Message-Id: <51ms06$47n@news1.io.org> Need advice on sending e-mail with file attachment from a PC platform to a Mac platform. I am using a 286 with DOS. The e-mail reaches the destination but not the uploaded file. I am told I should cut and paste the file content into the e-mail message, but I don't think I can cut and paste with 286 DOS. What about converting the file - a WordPerfect 5.1 file - into a DOS file or TEXT file? How would I do that? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Sheldon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11688; Mon, 30 Sep 96 15:36:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA05777 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:33:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA05772 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:33:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7qsS-00038XC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 15:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us (Richard E. Depew) Subject: ignore: bug in pine 3.95 Control: cancel <199609301406.JAA01718@mikel.gcom.com> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:11:06 GMT Canceling large binary file posted to unmoderated discussion group From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24972; Mon, 30 Sep 96 16:09:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA28642 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:07:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from oak.cats.ohiou.edu (oak.cats.ohiou.edu [132.235.8.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA28637 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:07:08 -0700 Received: from localhost by oak.cats.ohiou.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/03Feb95-1128AM) id AB13980; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:12:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:12:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Sara Hawk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Pine, I have a huge problem. I have been using pine since last year and I have never had any problems until now. I have not been able to get any of my new messages. They aren't where they have always been. I have been getting mail since early September and have read and replayed to those and now the only things in my folder are from last year. I am not able to get new mail. The system tells me that I have mail but I am unable to find it in any of my folders. I know that people have been sending me stuff and I am just not getting it. It is also not a problem of the wrong address because everyone sending me mail gets no return messege after sending it to me. No one at my local support staff knows what to do. Please help. Thanks, Sara Hawk, Ohio University From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23163; Mon, 30 Sep 96 17:18:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA08668 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:16:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA08663 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:16:19 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 1 Oct 96 08:21:37 +0800 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:12:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Sara Hawk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Sara Hawk wrote: > I have a huge problem. I have been using pine since last year and > I have never had any problems until now. I have not been able to get any > of my new messages. They aren't where they have always been. I have been > getting mail since early September and have read and replayed to those and > now the only things in my folder are from last year. I am not able to > get new mail. The system tells me that I have mail but I am unable to > find it in any of my folders. I know that people have been sending me > stuff and I am just not getting it. It is also not a problem of the wrong > address because everyone sending me mail gets no return messege after > sending it to me. No one at my local support staff knows what to do. > Please help. You need to do a bit of testing....or maybe your support staff. Your header information shows your are using pine3.93 on an OSF platform. I'm not familar with OSF....but suspect it is a variation on U*IX. Also, we don't know if your mail is being accessed by direct means or via IMAP. In any case, your "INBOX" is normally in /usr/spool/mail, or /var/spool/mail with the name sh247995. Check to see if that file exists. Check the size of the file. Then send yourself mail. See if the size of the file increases. What are the results? Do you have a .forward file in your home directory? Does you system have quotas on disk space? Are you over the limit? Are you the only person having trouble? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22301; Mon, 30 Sep 96 19:16:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA02675 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:14:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA02670 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:14:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7uK0-00038aC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 19:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Undelete??? Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:24:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 29 Sep 1996, Colleen Bridge wrote: > Is it possible to undelete files in pine?? I deleted all of my files by > mistake (long story) and want them back, some are very important to me > (longer story) :) I would say that you are probably out of luck, although there may be faint hope. What system are you running Pine under? If it is PC-Pine under MS-DOS, I presume that Pine is using the normal DOS file structures. IF YOU ARE QUICK ENOUGH (!), there are MS-DOS utilities which may be able to recover your files -- maybe. If you are running Pine under some flavor of Unix, about all you can do is try to sweet talk your system administrator to try to restore your files from the most recent backup tapes -- presuming, of course, that backup tapes were even made relatively recently, which is frequently not the case. Even if tapes were made, you will probably still lose something. As for Pine running on other systems, I cannot speak. Unfortunately, overall I would not be optimistic about your prospects. Sorry. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28145; Mon, 30 Sep 96 20:11:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA11561 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:09:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA11556 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:09:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7v7p-00038bC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 20:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Colleen Bridge Subject: Undelete??? Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:02:42 -0230 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to undelete files in pine?? I deleted all of my files by mistake (long story) and want them back, some are very important to me (longer story) :) Any help is appreciated! Colleen 'the bee' \ / _(II)_ (_(__)_) || /\ An Eye For An Eye... )( _______________________ ()////////////(><)________________________> cbridge@plato.ucs.mun.ca )( \/ Leaves Us All Blind. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26992; Mon, 30 Sep 96 20:15:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA03575 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:14:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA03570 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:14:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7vCZ-00038bC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 20:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Moyer Subject: Delivery Filtering into folders Date: 1 Oct 1996 01:52:45 GMT Message-Id: <52pthd$cf9@swen.emba.uvm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to know if there is any way to have mail automatically placed into folders based on the "to" or "reply to" address. The purpose is to have mail from mailing lists automatically placed into the appropriate folders before I even use Pine. Thanks, Steve Moyer http://www.gen.com/solutions From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28573; Mon, 30 Sep 96 20:49:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA04140 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:47:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA04135 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:47:21 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:52:38 +0800 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:43:58 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Steve Moyer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Delivery Filtering into folders In-Reply-To: <52pthd$cf9@swen.emba.uvm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Oct 1996, Steve Moyer wrote: > I would like to know if there is any way to have mail automatically > placed into folders based on the "to" or "reply to" address. The > purpose is to have mail from mailing lists automatically placed into the > appropriate folders before I even use Pine. Yes, and my goodness this has been asked/answered more than a few times in the past couple of weeks. One of the best (but some claim not the easiest) packages to use is called "procmail". It may be installed on your site...it may not be. You can ask your sysadmin and/or type "procmail -v" to see if it is there. If it is...then also type "man procmail" to see if the man pages are available. If no man pages....well you'd better get them first before trying to use procmail. If you need to pickup the sources they can be found at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as (g)zipped tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz as compressed tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.Z There may even be a newsgroup devoted to procmail. I know there is a mailing list. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25046; Mon, 30 Sep 96 22:22:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA13726 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:19:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA13721 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:19:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7xEF-00038bC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 22:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Configuration Problem? Date: 29 Sep 1996 14:56:52 GMT Message-Id: <52m2nk$8q2@due.unit.no> References: <52l4vd$bsr@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> In article <52l4vd$bsr@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>, Tim Mooney wrote: >In article , >Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 25 Sep 1996, jbenny wrote: >> >> > When I post to a newsgroup, in the index of the newsgroup, instead of >> > showing my name, the line "To:" appears. How can I correct this? >> >> There is *nothing* to correct. This question pops up many >> times a week. It leads one to wonder if anyone actually reads the >> replies, etc..... > >It also leads one to wonder if it was such a good feature to add in the >first place. Maybe it should have been a selectable option, rather than >the default. This seems to have appeared at the same time as the index-format option appeared. My guess is, before that there was different behavior in newsgroups and mail, or possibly different behavior in the sent-mail folder versus other folders. (At least I seem to recall seeing To: at certain places in the old days.) Certainly, it makes sense to have the sent-mail folder using To:, since there every message is from yourself, while it does not really make sense to use To: in newsgroups. But since the index-format option was added, every folder has to behave the same way (otherwise, the option would have to be split or made more complicated), and they chose the only option which does not lose information compared to the old system. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26646; Mon, 30 Sep 96 22:22:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA05575 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:19:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA05570 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:19:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7xEF-00038cC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 22:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Bug in pine-info -> comp.mail.pine gateway Date: 29 Sep 1996 14:40:17 GMT Message-Id: <52m1oh$8ae@due.unit.no> References: <52kb22$73u@due.unit.no> In article , Ed Greshko wrote: >On 28 Sep 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: >> No, that was not in the Date: line, that was at the end of the Path:. >> There was a Date: line too, which showed 21:00:00 or something. > > Try not to say "no" too quickly. It is more approriate to say >something along the lines of "that is not what I'm seeing". Excuse me while I remove this foot from my mouth.. I didn't see that the message was coming through the mailing list. There _is_ an error though, causing the original Date: header to merge with the news Path: header. I guess it is in the pine-info -> comp.mail.pine gateway. It appears in your message as well. My wild guess about a file missing the last EOL character still stands. As for Patricia's original problem, I don't know. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29782; Mon, 30 Sep 96 22:40:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA14018 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:37:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA14013 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:37:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7xRL-00038BC; Mon, 30 Sep 96 22:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Virtual Joe Subject: Re: [Q] imapd problem -More Info! Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:13:31 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It appears that my problems are due to our "trusted" system. Has anyone whacked the code for imapd or popper to work with HP-UX 10.X trusted systems? I would be forever in your debt.... *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: < http://www.creighton.edu/~jduche/>> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*