From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 00:21:59 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 00:21:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16405; Fri, 1 Nov 96 00:21:59 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA29813 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 00:18:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA29803 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 00:17:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJEjF-00038eC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 00:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph Davidson Subject: Re: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:25:20 -0500 Message-Id: References: <55avct$l75@saltmine.radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: If you send me a copy of a groupwise address list I will look at it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, R R Neuswanger wrote: > Neither your page nor your message mentions > Groupwise -- any hope? > > > R R (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph D, NRA-L > rrne@loc.gov Better to hunt, while > strength lasts, than > I speak for me. Only. eat or sleep. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 01:01:16 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 01:01:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16741; Fri, 1 Nov 96 01:01:16 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA23635 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 00:58:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA23631 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 00:58:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJFMF-00038eC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 00:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Receiving newsgroup in pine Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 20:06:11 -0500 Message-Id: References: <559eev$uq9@lucy.swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <559eev$uq9@lucy.swin.edu.au> On 31 Oct 1996, Pui Shan Queenie Kam wrote: > Now how do you just do that? > Is it possible to receive newsgroup in pine? > Well...im new to pine... hehe First, you'll have to talk to your ISP to determine what News server you should use (it'll be the same one you're using for Tin). Once you know what it is, go into Setup/Config and select nntp-server. Then type in the name of the server (whatever.foo.bar - again, ask your ISP). This should also set news-collections automatically. In this case, it would be *{whatever.foo.bar/nttp}[]. If you can, get together with your ISP to set this since you just began using Pine. Hope this helps! -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 01:10:56 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 01:10:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15519; Fri, 1 Nov 96 01:10:55 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA00518 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 01:08:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA00514 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 01:08:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJFUo-00038eC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 01:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shakeel Ur Rahman Subject: USER CONFIRM AND DELETE? Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:01:24 -0600 Message-Id: <32776DC4.68E2@fedex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wanted to know how I can get a mail sent to me when the person to whom I have sent a mail sees the mail and reads it. What are the config settings if available. shakeel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 02:01:01 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:01:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11886; Fri, 1 Nov 96 02:01:00 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA01105 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 01:58:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA01101 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 01:58:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJGIe-00038eC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 01:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Requesting Automatic Message Acknowledgement Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:31:14 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Jonathan David Makepeace wrote: > We are running Pine 3.91. > > Is it possible to configure Pine to request acknowledgement that a > message has been received? Old, old, old, old, old question answered many, many, many, many, many times on this newsgroup. You can go into your configuration (off the Main Menu) and add the customized header: Return-Receipt-To: your_email_address However, there is no Internet standard enforcing return receipts, so there is no way to predict whether any particular email will garner you a receipt or not. It all depends on whether the receiving system honors your request, and it is not required to do so. Even if you do get a receipt back, it only says the message has been delivered. It says nothing about whether the message has been read (or even possibly thrown away unread). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 02:01:24 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:01:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11302; Fri, 1 Nov 96 02:01:23 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA24382 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 01:58:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA24378 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 01:58:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJGHr-00038fC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 01:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andyb@coat.com (Andy Behrens) Subject: Re: Plans to put a password cache in pine? Date: 30 Oct 1996 21:25:45 GMT Message-Id: <558h4p$jok@delphi.bc.edu> References: <550i61$q1g@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> David Ross (snakey@wam.umd.edu) wrote: > The header says it all... Right now, if your sysadmin hasn't set > up rimapd correctly, you are screwed. I have to type my login and > password in every few seconds! I don't mind doing once per session, > but the way things are set up now is a real pain. If you are reading > this and are a pine developer, please do something! =) Thank you! You might want to tell Pine that it shouldn't even try rimapd, but should go directly to imap. You can do that by adding the port number afer the hostname, for example inbox-path={imap5.u.example.edu:143}INBOX But wouldn't it be better to have your sysadmin fix the rimapd problem, so that other people could use Pine also? Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 02:11:10 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:11:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16421; Fri, 1 Nov 96 02:11:10 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA24492 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:08:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA24488 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:08:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJGSV-00038eC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 02:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stotsky Haim Subject: mail is here !!!! how ? Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:33:34 +0200 Message-Id: <3277592E.21BCF652@elbit.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello , i have some imap server that allow users using pine to get mail using the remote feature of pine (smtp server = {host:143}inbox) the problem is that those users cannot get any beep or something like that to tell them that mail is arraived . do know any way to solve this problem ? reply to: stots@elbit.co.il stots From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 03:01:18 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 03:01:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17890; Fri, 1 Nov 96 03:01:18 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA24981 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:58:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA24977 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:58:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJHG6-00038fC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 02:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Receipt function in Pine? Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:29:34 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3266269F.6038@acpub.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3266269F.6038@acpub.duke.edu> On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Namjin Chung wrote: > Does Pine has a "receipt" function which enables you to check > if your email recipient has received your email? If so, > please tell me how to set up. If not, is there any way to > emulate this? TIA. Did you check out customized-hdrs in your configuaration? You can add a customized Return-Receipt-To: your-email-address on your own. (It is not there automatically.) I hope you are aware that even with this header, you will get a receipt only if the receving system honors it, which it is not required to do, and it will tell you nothing about whether the end recipient has actually opened and read your message. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 03:01:50 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 03:01:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17859; Fri, 1 Nov 96 03:01:50 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA01752 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:58:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA01748 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 02:58:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJHFx-00038eC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 02:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: got big problems Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:24:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 17 Oct 1996, Elizabeth Bettencourt wrote: > All my messages are coming back to me as "returned mail" due to a > "local configuration error". What's the problem? Can it be fixed? Can you provide us with more diagnostic data? Just saying "my car won't run" is not quite enough information for a mechanic to fix it. It would be good it you could include one of the returned mails with the error messages in its entirety -- you can X out any personal information. Information of what version of Pine and what operating system you are running under (so we don't have to try to dig that out of the headers) is also useful information. A copy of your Pine personal configuration file would be good. My point is that too much information is far superior to too little when it comes to diagnosing a problem. As it stands, I have no idea what the problem is without further data. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 03:48:05 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 03:48:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18162; Fri, 1 Nov 96 03:48:04 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA02288 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 03:43:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA02284 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 03:43:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJHvI-00038jC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 03:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lev Kitsis Subject: Pine problems (need HELP) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 23:58:50 +0200 Message-Id: <3279211A.5578@mailhost.cs.biu.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please I need Help with the Pine ! There are some files that Pine is creating during its work and they called like .pine-debug1 .pine-debug2 .pine-debug3 .pine-debug4 Does anybody knows what they do? Do I need them in my $HOME directory Or I can Remove 'em without any Question and What should I mark in .pinerc so that files will appear in some other places i want. -- ____________________________________________________________ | Lev A. Kitsis == Young hacker and UNIX maniac ;-))) | | My WWW-HomePage: http://www.cs.biu.ac.il:8080/~lkitsis/ | | My E-Mail: lkitsis@sunbeam.cs.biu.ac.il | |==========================================================| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 04:03:48 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:03:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18289; Fri, 1 Nov 96 04:03:48 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA25633 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 03:58:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA25629 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 03:58:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJICN-00038kC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 03:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: IMAP folder specification question Date: 1 Nov 1996 11:48:54 GMT Message-Id: <55co36$rln@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <1996Oct30.014246.21668@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov> Un jour, Logan Shaw (logan@kronos.arc.nasa.gov) affirmait publiquement que: | Is there a way I can tell pine to use an alternate user name on that | host? As suggested by Ørjan in another thread, you can use this syntax: {mailhost.whatever.edu/user=snakey}INBOX HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Le remariage: le triomphe de l'espérance sur l'expérience. -- S. Johnson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 04:41:26 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:41:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02370; Fri, 1 Nov 96 04:41:25 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA03090 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:38:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA03086 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:38:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJIlu-00038TC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 04:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmccarro@maplesoft.on.ca (James McCarron) Subject: Re: Print every message in folder, piping each through mp - HELP Message-Id: References: <5563hv$5kh@news.eecs.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:39:41 GMT In article <5563hv$5kh@news.eecs.umich.edu>, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: >Pardon the crosspost, but I am in rather desperate need of being able to >print most of the messages in a folder, but I want each separately formatted >with the Solaris Mail Prettyprinter mp, so that each has its own To: and >Subject: bubbles. There are hundreds, if not thousands of messages, so >doing it one at a time is out of the question. > [ ... deletia ... ] > >I would deeply appreciate any help someone can offer. > > >-- > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ > Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ > Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / > Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / Hi: There is a Perl program `unmbox' that will take a mailbox and split it into individual messages (called `01', `02', `03' ...). You could feed your mail folder to unmbox, and then run mp on each of the individual files, sending the output of each to the printer. (*Very* handy script, this `unmbox'!). My copy here at home does not have a net URL, but I suspect you can find it at any CPAN site (that being the most likely place that *I* found it). If you can't find it, let me know, and I shall email you my copy (it is quite short; I'd post it, but I haven't the authors permission to do so). Cheers! James -- ]> James McCarronjmccarro@maplesoft.com E Pluribus UNIX From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 04:51:42 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:51:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18659; Fri, 1 Nov 96 04:51:42 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA26463 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:48:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA26459 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 04:48:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJIvd-00038UC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 04:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Latest version pine for SCO ? Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:45:10 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 29 Oct 1996, Ray Vermey wrote: > i am looking for the latest version of Pine for SCO ? > Can anyone tell me where i can find it ? > Latest source is ok too, i hope i can get it compiled then ;)) If you have a World Wide Web browser, browse http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ This is the "official" web page for Pine by its developers, and it has a lot of extremely valuable material, including information on where to get Pine. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 05:41:39 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 05:41:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18970; Fri, 1 Nov 96 05:41:38 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA03873 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 05:38:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA03869 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 05:38:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJJiD-00038TC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 05:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snakey@Glue.umd.edu (David Andrew Ross) Subject: Re: Plans to put a password cache in pine? Date: 31 Oct 1996 01:41:06 GMT Message-Id: <55903i$5ta@hecate.umd.edu> References: <550i61$q1g@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <555n4a$4j1@due.unit.no> : {mailhost.whatever.edu/user=snakey}INBOX : The "user=snakey" makes pine understand that you want to use the same : account every time you open the folder, and you only need to give the : password once per session. I tried this, and it does help a lot, but... I have multiple incoming folders, and so when I go to the folder list or try to "tab" to the next incoming folder, pine asks me again for my password. Ideas? Dave : Greetings, : Ørjan. -- David Ross dross@pobox.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 06:12:58 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 06:12:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19255; Fri, 1 Nov 96 06:12:57 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA27481 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 06:08:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA27477 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 06:08:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJKBM-00038TC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 06:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 938039@bud.cc.swin.edu.au (Pui Shan Queenie Kam) Subject: Receiving newsgroup in pine Date: 31 Oct 1996 05:46:07 GMT Message-Id: <559eev$uq9@lucy.swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now how do you just do that? Is it possible to receive newsgroup in pine? Well...im new to pine... hehe Thanx Queenie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 07:57:40 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 07:57:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20877; Fri, 1 Nov 96 07:57:40 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA05681 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 07:53:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA05677 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 07:53:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJLsb-00038TC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 07:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: a neat feature (unix pine 395) - ^j Date: 1 Nov 1996 15:35:20 GMT Message-Id: <55d5bo$h4k@news.ececs.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I accidentally found this neat feature of ^j (fill paragraph) in Pine. I got an email with lines like these: >I think >Thursday >is >better >for >me. I thought it would look terrible in my reply. And it was terrible until I hit the ^j (ctrl-j) in the paragraph. Pine was able to remove all the unnecessary ">" signs and make a nice paragraph! It ended up like this: >I think Thursday is better for me. > I like it! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 09:51:44 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:51:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12122; Fri, 1 Nov 96 09:51:43 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA08483 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:47:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from b1.hkstar.com (b1.hkstar.com [202.82.0.89]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA08473 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:47:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (k8195420@localhost) by b1.hkstar.com (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA07663 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:47:03 +0800 (HKT) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:47:03 +0800 (HKT) From: Ng Wing Lam To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 10:02:39 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:02:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24366; Fri, 1 Nov 96 10:02:39 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA08796 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:59:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA08786 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:59:25 -0800 From: janefu@creighton.edu Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu by mailjay.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA18908; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:00:12 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:59:23 -0600 (CST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: VIRUS! (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, here is another info about another type of virus that my other friend sent me and I don't know if this applies to me either, so you might want to take a look at it. I don't know if it is a joke either, thanks. >...no, this is not a joke...this message is a serious warning... > > >There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If >you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Irina", DO NOT >read the message. DELETE it immediately. Someone is sending people >and files under the title "Irina". If you receive this mail or file, do not >download it. It has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating >anything on it. Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care >about. > >(Information received from the Professor Edward Prideaux, College of >Slavonic Studies, London). > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bad command. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaay.. ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 10:04:11 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:04:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24392; Fri, 1 Nov 96 10:04:10 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA08737 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:58:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA08730 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:57:55 -0800 From: janefu@creighton.edu Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu by mailjay.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA16930; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:58:41 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:57:53 -0600 (CST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Warning: [misc] Watch Out the Virus (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! My friend sent this to me and I am not sure if this applies to me. So I thought you might help me with this and maybe be aware of this virus too. V I R U S - W A R N I N G There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you receive an email message with the subject line "Good Times", DO NOT read the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. Some miscreant is sending email under the title "Good Times" nationwide, if you get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about. WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new computer virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ON LINE that is unparalleled in its destructive capability. What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It can be spread through the existing email systems of the Internet. Once a Computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If the computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If the program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in an nth-complexity infinite binary loop -which can severely damage the processor if left running that way too long. Luckily, there is one sure means of detecting what is now known as the "Good Times" virus. It always travels to new computers the same way in a text email message with the subject line reading "Good Times". Avoiding infection is easy once the file has been received simply by NOT READING IT! The act of loading the file into the mail server's ASCII buffer causes the "Good Times" mainline program to initialize and execute. The program is highly intelligent- it will send copies of itself to everyone whose email address is contained in a receive-mail file or a sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then proceed to trash the computer it is running on. The bottom line is: - if you receive a file with the subject line "Good Times", delete it immediately! Do not read it" Rest assured that whoever's name was on the "From" line was surely struck by the virus. Warn your friends and local system users of this newest threat to the Internet! It could save them a lot of time and money. Could you pass this along to your global mailing list as well? George H. Bowers Vice President for Information Systems University of Maryland Medical System 410-328-2579 (fax)410-328-0572 ************************************************************************* ** This mail is forwarded by The CGSA mailing list ** ** For help send mail to cgsalist@asid-9.umd.edu with ** ** "get info" on the Subject line. ** ** For questions send mail to guo@eng.umd.edu ** ************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 10:44:02 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:44:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25628; Fri, 1 Nov 96 10:44:01 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA03380 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:37:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.214]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA03371 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:36:55 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA) id LAA02148 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:37:24 -0700 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA41990 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:36:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:36:53 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: VIRUS! (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Nov 1996 janefu@creighton.edu wrote: > >There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If > >you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Irina", DO NOT > >read the message. DELETE it immediately. Someone is sending people > >and files under the title "Irina". Man, the stuff you learn in this business. OK, so, from the above I learned that a) FINALLY there's another name for the "Good Times" spam; and b) You can send people via e-mail. Wonder what *that* bit of news will do once the airlines hear about it? ROTFL :-) Happy Friday! Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 1 11:28:36 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:28:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18016; Fri, 1 Nov 96 11:28:35 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA04551 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:24:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA04540 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:24:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJP7x-00038TC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 11:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Missing Body in Pine 3.95 Messages Date: 30 Oct 1996 18:59:48 GMT Message-Id: References: <556mcl$6v6@buffnet7.buffnet.net> In-Reply-To: werner@buffnet7.buffnet.net's message of 29 Oct 1996 23:43:01 -0500 In article <556mcl$6v6@buffnet7.buffnet.net> werner@buffnet7.buffnet.net (Craig Werner) writes: I'm using Pine 3.95 on a UNIX BSD system. A friend of mine who uses a recent version of Pegasus tells me that whenever I forward a message using Pine's "f" command, he only receives the subject of the message. I don't know if Pine is broken relative to Pegasus or if, for some reason, something in my friend's Pegasus configuration could be hiding the body of the message from him. Amy ideas as to where to look to fix this problem are greatly appreciated. The only thing that occurs to me is that, when Full Headers are on when Forward is selected, a prompt is offered: Forward message as an attachment? Be sure to respond No in this circumstance. Good luck, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov http://www.dc-sage.org/bios/rick_troxel 301/435-2983 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:28:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26961; Fri, 1 Nov 96 11:28:58 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA04574 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:25:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA04570 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:25:55 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr43.interl.net [205.244.161.43]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA31084 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:23:45 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA01966 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:25:13 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:25:11 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: Problems getting POP3 to run with UNIX Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 29 Oct 1996, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:09:17 GMT, John Hansen wrote: > > > I'm attempting to use Pine 3.91 under Linux to read mail on a > >POP3 server. I've used the recommended syntax: > > > >(oak.ait.fredonia.edu/pop3)INBOX > > > > That syntax is incorrect. The correct syntax is: > incoming-folders= INBOX {oak.ait.fredonia.edu/pop3} > > Note that the brackets are very different. Your syntax is incorrect as well. It should be the same as John's example but with the parenthesis replaced by {}'s: incoming-folders="John's Inbox" {oak.ait.fredonia.edu/pop3}INBOX Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMnpOfyGB07hAGnFhAQHmRAQAzj0fyw1/Rto/0BBKa4ZKJhhQEN+aexBg qHz3cbHA5Xy48BvTk9/ZlpNjBhuqJnPKekMaHZJtXcl0+eoS4iKRta/9WtNZN2tm IK3MhTt72fnlkJznUwYxbUeZrnLF5FV7/iHZn+Ww7H6z4P7tc/+HR9s6L8npkdQy CbKTf6KJeCY= =kXO4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:14:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29764; Fri, 1 Nov 96 13:14:52 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA13588 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:09:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA13584 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:09:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJQkv-00038UC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 13:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snakey@Glue.umd.edu (David Andrew Ross) Subject: Re: Plans to put a password cache in pine? Date: 1 Nov 1996 15:23:34 GMT Message-Id: <55d4lm$jtl@hecate.umd.edu> References: <550i61$q1g@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <555n4a$4j1@due.unit.no> <55903i$5ta@hecate.umd.edu> <55b3dd$bt0@due.unit.no> <55ctvg$j8u@hecate.umd.edu> Problem solved... I realized that the name of my imap server really resolves to one of two machines to balance the load. I just picked one of the two and now I only have to log in once per session! -- David Ross dross@pobox.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:07:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03199; Fri, 1 Nov 96 18:07:51 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA20652 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:04:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA20648 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:04:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJVMT-00038XC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 17:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfuhr@dimensional.com (Michael Fuhr) Subject: Re: A good mail filter? Date: 1 Nov 1996 16:00:47 -0700 Message-Id: <55dvev$rnf@nova.dimensional.com> References: <55dq7t$k3g@crl7.crl.com> colorado@crl.com (Scott Matteson) writes: >Does anyone know of a good, reliable mail filtering program that can be >configured to reject e-mail from a specific e-mail address or addresses? >I've attempted to use procmail but it's worthless and I was wondering >if there's something out there that does the job simply and efficiently. >Thanks in advance for any suggestions- Ok, I'll take the bait. What do you find worthless about procmail? Perhaps if you told us what the problem is you'd get a useful answer. -- Michael Fuhr mailto:mfuhr@dimensional.com http://www.dimensional.com/~mfuhr/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:07:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02986; Fri, 1 Nov 96 18:07:58 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA14224 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:04:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA14220 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:04:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJVMf-00038YC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 17:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "'Rob' R. Fulwell" Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:22:31 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Or you could use filter. It is fairly easy to set up. You put a line in you .forward file like: | /usr/local/bin/filter and create a filter-rules file which includes a rule like: if (from = "ex-boyfriends-address") then delete and you will never see mails from this person again. The filter can also create a log to let you know about everying it does. This information (and much more is available by typing 'man filter' (no quotes) at your shell prompt. There is also probably a longer filter document on the system there which will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about filtering your mail. If you wanted a slightly fancier solution you could have the filter reply to mails from this person with an automated response saying that the mail had been summarily deleted and would never be seen. Good luck. -- Rob Fulwell http://weber.u.washington.edu/~miser or keyserver for PGP public key NOTICE: Please check the above web page for my policy on commercial e-mail From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:22:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18204; Fri, 1 Nov 96 18:22:23 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA14441 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:19:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA14436 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:19:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJVdo-00038VC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 18:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tina@spirou.uab.ericsson.se (Tina Marie Holmboe) Subject: Re: A good mail filter? Date: 2 Nov 1996 01:46:27 GMT Message-Id: <55e95j$rld@euas20.eua.ericsson.se> References: <55dq7t$k3g@crl7.crl.com> { colorado@crl.com (Scott Matteson) } > Does anyone know of a good, reliable mail filtering program that can be > configured to reject e-mail from a specific e-mail address or addresses? > I've attempted to use procmail but it's worthless and I was wondering > if there's something out there that does the job simply and efficiently. > Thanks in advance for any suggestions- A suggestion might be to take a look at http://www.ee.umd.edu/medlab/filter/filter.html "Information Filtering Resources" As for 'procmail', well, YMMV - personally I wrote my own filter when I found procmail to be a) written in C, b) *huge*, and c) employing rule-files that were *almost* incomprehensible. But again, YMMV. -- Tina Marie Holmboe / http://www.ifi.uio.no/%7Etina/ / / tina@spirou.uab.ericsson.se / 'When correctly viewed, Everything is lewd. (I could tell you things about Peter Pan, And the Wizard of Oz, there's a dirty old man!)' - Tom Lehrer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:02:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03691; Fri, 1 Nov 96 19:02:37 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA21350 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:59:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA21346 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:59:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJWGQ-00038VC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 18:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eugene Delacroix Subject: transferring mail Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:45:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3278670E.2A7A@Musee.de.Paris> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there some way I can send a bunch of emails (that I've saved) at once (all to one address)? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:31:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04264; Fri, 1 Nov 96 20:31:56 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA16076 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:29:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA16072 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:29:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJXdm-00038VC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 20:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gtk@walsh.med.harvard.edu (Gregory Tucker-Kellogg) Subject: INBOX is read-only (Pine 3.95, SunOS) Date: 1 Nov 1996 16:35:14 GMT Message-Id: <55d8s2$mmr@mufasa.harvard.edu> I just upgraded pine on our Sparc from 3.89 to 3.95. Testing it on my own account, I get the following message "Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly" I've even tried changing the permissions on /var/spool/mail/, but to no avail. Is pine unable to create the .lock file? Is it not flock()ing? Any help is appreciated. Greg -- Gregory Tucker-Kellogg Department of Biological Chemistry and Molecular Pharmacology Harvard Medical School, Boston MA 02115 "Mojo Dobro" Finger for PGP info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:37:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05150; Fri, 1 Nov 96 21:37:54 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA23192 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:34:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA23188 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:34:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJYfE-00038VC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 21:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Pine problems (need HELP) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 20:26:52 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3279211A.5578@mailhost.cs.biu.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3279211A.5578@mailhost.cs.biu.ac.il> On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Lev Kitsis wrote: > Please I need Help with the Pine ! > There are some files that Pine is creating during its work > and they called like > > > .pine-debug1 > .pine-debug2 > .pine-debug3 > .pine-debug4 > > Does anybody knows what they do? Do I need them in my $HOME directory > Or I can Remove 'em without any Question > and What should I mark in .pinerc so that files will appear in some > other places > i want. Those are files that Pine creates for sake of debugging in case the program should mysteriously crash. By default, Pine sets the debug level to 1. Everytime you run Pine, it makes a new debug file like in your case. To prevent these from being created, use the command 'pine -d 0' (without the quotes). This tells Pine to set the debug level to zero, meaning that no debug file will be created. Of course, you can set this as an alias (if you're on Unix) or symbol (if you're on VMS). As for me, I set up a 'p' alias to run Pine at 0 debug level. Lazy? Yeah, but who cares? ;-) -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:41:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05168; Fri, 1 Nov 96 21:41:51 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA16894 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:39:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA16890 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:39:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJYli-00038VC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 21:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: George Machiavello Subject: Re: Got Problems??? Date: 29 Oct 1996 23:06:09 GMT Message-Id: <5562l1$jem@taurus.tor.onramp.ca> References: <554nos$9hb@wormer.fn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have Eudora 1.4 and very often I get an error called Eudora 14. Could youexplain me what do it means? Thanks a lot George From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:51:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05322; Fri, 1 Nov 96 21:51:28 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA16983 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:48:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from home.au.ac.th (home.au.ac.th [202.6.101.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA16977 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:48:38 -0800 Received: from au2.au.ac.th (g3829219@au2.au.ac.th [202.6.101.2]) by home.au.ac.th (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18280 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:47:47 +0700 (TST) Received: from localhost by au2.au.ac.th (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA25742; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:01:48 +0700 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:01:46 +0700 (TST) From: Yossaporn Artornchaikul Reply-To: Yossaporn Artornchaikul To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: INFORMATION Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I WAS SUGGESTED TO ASK FOR INFORMATION FROM YOU. MY ENQUIRY IS WHETHER I CAN SEND MESSAGE DIRECTLY TO ANY USERS WITH WWW.***.COM (E.G. WWW.DISNEY.COM), I HAVE SEVERAL TIMES TRIED TO DO THIS BUT IT SEEMED TO BE UNSUCCESSFUL. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW I WILL KNOW WHETHER I AM IN THE WORLD WIDE WEB. PLEASE ADVISE. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:02:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05387; Fri, 1 Nov 96 22:02:23 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA23466 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:59:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA23462 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:59:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJZ2f-00038VC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 21:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: What happened to my "From:"? Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:32:43 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Thomlinson John R wrote: > This message, I am sure, will have the text "To: comp.mail.pine" in the > "From:" field of the index page. [...] Uh, well, no, when I opened newsgroup comp.mail.pine, there was your post sitting on top of the heap with your name in the index page. Please be aware that there is usually a difference in Pine between what you, the sender, see, and we, the recipients, see. We see your name. You see whom or what group you sent the message to. The design of Pine is that you are assumed to know your own name, so that information is rather superfluous to you. Whom you sent something to you is assumed to be of more value, so that's what you see. On the other hand, when I open mail or news, your name is more valuable to me, so that's what I see. Nothing is broken. That's just the way it works. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:02:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05417; Fri, 1 Nov 96 22:02:41 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA17074 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:59:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA17070 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:59:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJZ2m-00038WC; Fri, 1 Nov 96 21:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Harris Subject: Newsgroup Warning? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:02:32 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to disable the "this is going out to thousands of people" warning before posting to a newsgroup? After the hundredth post, it becomes very annoying. I am using Unix PINE version 3.91. Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:49:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05518; Fri, 1 Nov 96 22:49:15 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA17574 for pine-info-out; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:45:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA17570 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:45:27 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 2 Nov 96 14:43:34 +0800 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:44:38 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: George Machiavello Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Got Problems??? In-Reply-To: <5562l1$jem@taurus.tor.onramp.ca> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Oct 1996, George Machiavello wrote: > I have Eudora 1.4 and very often I get an error called Eudora 14. Could youexplain me what do > it means? Yes! It means you are using the *wrong* user agent. If you check the online help of Eudora you will find a section that tells you if you get that error you need to switch to using "pine" as your User Agent. If you find it difficult to switch then you should at least ask questions about Eudora on the Eudora newsgroup. :-) Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:27:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05512; Sat, 2 Nov 96 00:27:14 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA24949 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:24:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA24945 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:24:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJbMO-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 00:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Harris Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:45:28 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This girl's predicament, and many others, is *exactly* why I think PINE needs the ability for killfiles. Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:27:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06346; Sat, 2 Nov 96 00:27:37 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA18618 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:24:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA18608 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:24:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJbMS-00038WC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 00:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and sudo Date: 1 Nov 1996 18:11:52 -0500 Message-Id: <55e03o$fvk@gaffa.voicenet.com> References: <55d3jk$cbg_007@human.cornell.edu> In article <55d3jk$cbg_007@human.cornell.edu> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine, Ken Simler wrote: >I am the de facto sysadm for a shared workstation running AIX, which >includes checking root's mail on a regular basis, such as the output from >cron jobs run by root. This has nuffin' to do with Pine but answers the question.... A better solution would be to edit /etc/aliases to include the line: root: your_user_id and then run the 'newaliases' command. Then, all mail that's normally delivered to root will be delivered to your non-root userid. Bill -- billd@doa.net billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) "Yesterday, apropos of nothing, one friend said to me 'Do you ever have days where you just want to get everyone you know together in one place, have them all take off their clothes, and let nature take its course?'" --Susan Groppi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:12:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06581; Sat, 2 Nov 96 01:12:32 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA25446 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:10:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA25442 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 01:10:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJc1v-00038WC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 01:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: heitkamp@amiga1.fred.org (Frederick V. Heitkamp) Subject: Re: Pine Questions Date: 30 Oct 1996 11:45:32 GMT Message-Id: <557f4s$ao2$1@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <5528on$kdo$1@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Frederick V. Heitkamp (heitkamp@amiga1.fred.org) wrote: Sorry about the previous post, my terminal emulation was messed up. My questions are: How to you edit the subject line when posting or replying to news? Pine alwatys seems to put To: in there for me. How to I fix "rsh IMAP connection timed out" when connecting to nntp server? -- ################################################################# # Fred Heitkamp # # Linux m68k/i486 AmigaOS OS/2 Warp # # fheitka@ibm.net fheitkamp@worldnet.att.net # ################################################################# From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:23:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08891; Sat, 2 Nov 96 06:23:41 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA22755 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:20:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA22751 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:20:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJgsP-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 06:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: USER CONFIRM AND DELETE? Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:48:16 -0500 Message-Id: References: <32776DC4.68E2@fedex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32776DC4.68E2@fedex.com> On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Shakeel Ur Rahman wrote: > I wanted to know how I can get a mail sent to me when the person to whom > I have sent a mail sees the mail and reads it. What are the config > settings if available. > shakeel In brief, No, if you want to know that the mail has been read. Please see my followup I made a few minutes ago to almost the same question. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:38:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08826; Sat, 2 Nov 96 06:38:17 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA29134 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:35:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA29130 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 06:35:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJh7x-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 06:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: email address in pine Date: 31 Oct 1996 23:41:25 GMT Message-Id: <55bdf5$8j9@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <3278F565.6441@niu.edu> Un jour, bobthecow (bobthecow@niu.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | If anyone can help me to change the email address that PINE sends in the | FROM: field when I send messages, please let me know how I might do | that. First, you could ask your sysadmin to fix that or just go in the setup/config menu and put "Yes" to "use-only-domain-name" HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Le premier livre à interdire devrait être le catalogue des livres interdits. -- G.C. Lichtenberg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:09:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10017; Sat, 2 Nov 96 09:09:00 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA24554 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:06:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA24550 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:05:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJjRZ-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 09:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hubey@pegasus.montclair.edu (H. M. Hubey) Subject: Suppressing some of the headers Date: 30 Oct 1996 13:11:19 -0500 Message-Id: How does one suppress the cc field on receipt of pine mail I get about 1200 names on the cc field when I receive mail, and it's much much longer than the message which is usually a few lines. Is it possible to suppress the cc field on mail received? -- o-o-o-o-oo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o http://www.csam.montclair.edu/Faculty/Hubey.html hubey@pegasus.montclair.edu hubeyh@alpha.montclair.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:17:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09990; Sat, 2 Nov 96 09:17:45 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA00964 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:16:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA00960 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:15:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJjdV-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 09:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 20:19:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Dowell Sean wrote: > This may be a dumb question but i hope someone answers it!! > > My girlfriend has e-mail with university the same as i do and she writes > to some of her friends at home. An exboyfriend of hers has her address > and often writes letters to her, we changed her address but she always has > to write her friends and because of mutual friends her boyfriend always > will get her address. Is there any way to block out his E-mail or his name > from any address or something. this is really annoying and I have bounced > his mail back but he is persistant. please if anybody knows anything that > could help or anywhere i could ask please leave me a message here She'll have to use a mail filtering program like procmail (or DELIVER if she's on VMS). I'm not familiar with procmail at all, so I can't offer any pointers on how to set it up (I'm learning it slowly as we speak). However, her ex-boyfriend could really get into trouble, for his actions could possibly be labeled as harassment. I say 'possibly' because it depends on how she's treating the situation. If she really wants him to stop, she could request it by writing a letter to the 'postmaster' account at his site. Most postmasters are quite prompt at handling account abuse. Of course, I would treat this as a last resort, but do not hesitate to do it when it's necessary! Hope this helps! -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:33:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09861; Sat, 2 Nov 96 09:33:10 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA24853 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:31:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA24849 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:30:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJjsZ-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 09:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 1 Nov 1996 02:09:49 GMT Message-Id: <55bm5d$qqt@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ignore Article canceled by slrn 0.9.1.1 BETA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:48:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11067; Sat, 2 Nov 96 10:48:51 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA02071 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:46:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA02067 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:46:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJl43-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 10:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: logan@kronos-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov (Logan Shaw) Subject: Re: Print every message in folder, piping each through mp - HELP Message-Id: <1996Oct30.065759.24206@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov> References: <5563hv$5kh@news.eecs.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:57:59 GMT In article <5563hv$5kh@news.eecs.umich.edu>, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: >Pardon the crosspost, but I am in rather desperate need of being able to >print most of the messages in a folder, but I want each separately formatted >with the Solaris Mail Prettyprinter mp, so that each has its own To: and >Subject: bubbles. There are hundreds, if not thousands of messages, so >doing it one at a time is out of the question. > >Right now if I open a folder with Pine 3.95, select all the messages in the >folder and pipe them through the command 'mp | lp', I get all the messages >printed as one, with one To: header (bubble) and one Subject: footer >(bubble). > >I have iterated through the following mp options: -d -m. > >I have also tried the formail component of procmail. I still get all the >messages in the mbox formatted as one. What incantation did you use with formail? I would think you'd want to do this: formail -s mp > somefile < mailfolder This would run "mp" lots of times and keep appending the output to the file "somefile". If mp spits Postscript out on stdout, this should be okay, since in general you can do this cat 1.ps 2.ps 3.ps > all.ps lp all.ps with Postscript files safely. An alternate way of doing it is to invoke a little shell to run your pipe command and spool zillions of separate print jobs. Bad idea if you have a header page for each print job. At any rate, you could do that like this: formail -s sh -c 'mp | lp' < mailfolder A better idea would be to make the script generate a zillion files, then print them with one big command: formail -s sh -c 'mp > mail.$$.ps' < mailfolder lp mail.*.ps If this is the kind of thing you've already tried, you might want to look at the "mailfolder" file. If you have been piping messages to the formail program straight from pine, or you've used the "export" (instead of "save") feature to create the "mailfolder" file, you should be aware that both pipes and exports strip all kinds of header stuff from the mail message, most importantly the "From " line (NOT the "From: " line). If formail does not see "From " lines, chances are that it's not going to see the boundaries between messages. Personally, I recommend marking all the messages you want to print, then doing an aggregate save of them to a new folder ("~/mailfolder"), then doing an aggregate undelete (since the save will have caused them to be marked for deletion). If you want to print all the messages in a folder, then just copy the folder, or run formail with the folder as its standard input. Hope this helps. I believe that the fact that an export does not produce the same kind of data as a save is probably one of pine's worst violations of the principle of least astonishment. But hey -- overall it's a pretty good program. - Logan -- Logan Shaw, Unix Systems Administrator "everybody / loves to see / justice done / on somebody else" (Bruce Cockburn) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:39:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12468; Sat, 2 Nov 96 13:39:46 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA27760 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:36:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA27756 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:36:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJni2-00038YC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 13:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew Shi Subject: print from pine Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:49:05 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do print messages from pine? Can anyone tell me that? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:56:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12173; Sat, 2 Nov 96 13:56:58 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA04326 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:54:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA04322 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:54:39 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA25190; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:54:36 -0800 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:54:35 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Logan Shaw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Print every message in folder, piping each through mp - HELP In-Reply-To: <1996Oct30.065759.24206@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Logan Shaw wrote: > Hope this helps. I believe that the fact that an export does not > produce the same kind of data as a save is probably one of pine's worst > violations of the principle of least astonishment. But hey -- overall > it's a pretty good program. Interesting view. If Export and Save used the same format, we wouldn't have needed two different commands. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:34:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12987; Sat, 2 Nov 96 14:34:27 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA04741 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:31:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA04737 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:31:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJoWl-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 14:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Yoobi@cris.com (Jeff Roberts) Subject: Error creating subdirectory "`:\mail" : No such file or directory Date: 25 Oct 1996 19:27:27 GMT Message-Id: <54r4av$ape@herald.concentric.net> Hello, everyone! When installing PINEOS2, the program seems to be trying to use ASCII 85h as either a variable, or the drive letter. I looked in the docs, and PINERC, but didn't see anywhere a possible solution. I thinksomeone else had this same problem, but no answers seem to have been posted. Is there a workaround, or is there something I'm missing? My 3.95 didn't come with that WATTCP.CFG (or whatever) file. What should I do? TIA, Jeff Roberts (strider@pobox.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:00:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13275; Sat, 2 Nov 96 15:00:29 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA05056 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:57:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-relay2.its.yale.edu (mail-relay2.its.yale.edu [130.132.21.73]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA05052 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:57:00 -0800 Received: from janus.cis.yale.edu (0@janus.cis.yale.edu [130.132.143.22]) by mail-relay2.its.yale.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11054 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from minerva.cis.yale.edu (bbartlt@minerva.cis.yale.edu [130.132.143.250]) by janus.cis.yale.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10951 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bbartlt@localhost) by minerva.cis.yale.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA11465 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:56:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:56:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Beatrice S. Bartlett" X-Sender: bbartlt@minerva.cis.yale.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem with adding new addresses in the new system Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nov. 2 1996 Dear Sirs: I have already asked my local consultants about this and they said to get in touch with you. The new address system works differently from the old and the instructions are bewildering. The only way I seem to be able to add a new E-mail address is to find one I no longer want, erase its entries, and write in the new one. Obviously I shall soon run out of choices to erase. When I used the new form to create a new entry, it whizzed over to something called DISTRIBUTION. Reading Help did not help. I shall appreciate any assistance you can provide. Thank you. Beatrice Bartlett, Yale From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:00:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12926; Sat, 2 Nov 96 15:00:31 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA28642 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:56:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA28638 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:56:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJoxp-00038YC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 14:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ebassett@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Subject: "=20" problem: mime, printed quotable Date: 1 Nov 1996 20:26:44 GMT Message-Id: <55dme4$m7c@news.sas.ab.ca> I need to be e-mailing text to an automatic program that sends my text out on the web and listserv. But it always gets there full of =20 at the end of most lines, and lines are not at all nice to read. I really do not think the problem is just that I type my lines too long (typed up in Word, saved as text with line breaks, then cut&pasted or uploaded to PINE). The guardian of the program tells me that I need to turn off MIME and QUOTED PRINTABLE (or some such thing). Can anyone tell me how to do this (PINE 3.95 on AIX 4.1)? Please e-mail me directly if you have an answer Thank you, world. -Edward Bassett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:29:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13496; Sat, 2 Nov 96 15:29:02 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA05435 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:26:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA05428 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:26:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJpPI-00038WC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 15:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Harris Subject: Re: Can i chat using pine? Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:53:12 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Gonzaga Santesteban wrote: # i'm a Pine's newuser, and i'd like to know if chatting is posible. And if # it isn't, what should i do? Change the server? PINE is strictly for electronic mail, and has nothing to do with chatting. There are three ways you may be able to chat with another individual: either through Internet Relay Chat (IRC), through the Unix 'talk' command, or through a chat board you can usually access through 'telnet'. You'd probably want to speak to your system administrator to determine which is the most viable option for you. Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:04:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31690; Sat, 2 Nov 96 17:04:22 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA00197 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:01:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA00193 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:01:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJqwF-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 17:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomlinson John R Subject: Re: What happened to my "From:"? Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:57:25 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 31 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > [I'm presuming you're new to this newsgroup/mailing-list? This is a very > frequently asked and answered question.] > > Don't worry... there is nothing wrong, and your messages are going out and > appearing exactly right. The "To:" prefix only affects your own Index > screen. This is mentioned in Pine's built-in help for the Index screen > (type a "?" at that screen to see it) ... > Hi Mike: Thanks for the reply. I am somewhat embarrased that the answer is available in help - I looked at all the help I could think of (including line-by-line in the configuration) but not in the Index Page. Mea culpa. > > Folks, rather than keep on answering this particular question perhaps we > could usefully have some discussion about how best to avoid it being asked > in the dirst place? (I remember the days when Pine-Info did this sort of > thing, before being gatewayed to comp.mail.pine :-( > > How is Pine/its documentation/help falling down here? Is the description > in the help not sufficiently clear (perhaps including the reason for the > behaviour would be helpful?)? Are people even finding the built-in help? > As an occasional user of Pine, I would find a complete help file useful. It was not immediately clear to me that the answer lay in the Index Page - I was thinking it was something I had changed in my configuration. The Index Page used to show my name, rather than To: x.x.x, in earlier versions of Pine, so when it changed I assumed it was something I had done. A complete version of on-line help would, I think, have avoided this problem: a search for all occurrences of "To:" would presumably have hit (eventually) the answer. Finally, I apologise for asking a frequently asked and answered question. I couldn't find any reference to it in the FAQ, however. Thanks for all the help: maybe my dumb question will be the catalyst for a whole new era in Pine documentation. Cheers, John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John Thomlinson Institute for Tropical Ecosystem Studies University of Puerto Rico Voice: 787/767-0371 PO Box 363682 FAX: 787/758-0815 San Juan, PR 00936 email: thomlins@sunceer.upr.clu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:44:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14728; Sat, 2 Nov 96 17:44:34 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA07075 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:41:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA07071 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 17:41:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJrYM-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 17:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Harris Subject: Re: VIRUS! (fwd) -- No, it ain't a virus ... Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 20:39:41 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 1 Nov 1996 janefu@creighton.edu wrote: # Hi, here is another info about another type of virus that my other friend # sent me and I don't know if this applies to me either, so you might want # to take a look at it. I don't know if it is a joke either, thanks. # # There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If # you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Irina", DO NOT # read the message. DELETE it immediately. Someone is sending people # and files under the title "Irina". If you receive this mail or file, do not # download it. It has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating # anything on it. Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care # about. # # (Information received from the Professor Edward Prideaux, College of # Slavonic Studies, London). From the "Good Times Virus Hoax FAQ", by Les Jones at macfaq@aol.com and lesjones@usit.net: "Q: Is an email virus possible? "A: The short answer is no, not the way Good Times was described. The longer answer is that this is a difficult question that's open to nitpicking. Keep three things in mind when considering the question: 1. A virus is computer specific. IBM PC viruses don't affect Macintoshes, and vice versa. That greatly limits the destructive power of viruses. (And notice that none of the Good Times warnings mention which types of computers are affected.) 2. A virus, by definition, can't exist by itself.It must infect an executable program. To transmit a virus by email, someone would have to infect a file and attach the file to the email message. To activate the virus, you would have to download and decode the file attachment, then run the infected program. In that situation, the email message is just a carrier for an infected file, just like a floppy disk carrying an infected file. 3. Some of the situations that people have dreamed up involve Trojan horses rather than viruses. A virus can only exist inside another program, which then automatically infects other programs. A Trojan horse is a program that pretends to do something useful, but instead does something nefarious. Trojans aren't infectious, so they're much less common than viruses. There are some email programs that can be set to automatically download a file attachment, decode it, and execute the file attachment. If you use such a program, you would be well advised to disable the option to automatically execute file attachments. You should, of course, be wary of any file attachments a stranger sends you. At the least, you should check such file attachments for viruses before running them." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:00:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13355; Sat, 2 Nov 96 19:00:08 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA01590 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 18:57:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA01585 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 18:57:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJsiZ-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 18:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Threaded USENET news in Pine? Date: 31 Oct 1996 21:33:05 GMT Message-Id: Is there support for threading USENET news articles in Pine? If not, does anyone know when we can expect it? I mean, reading USENET news without threading support is riduculous, as the posts would keep getting duplicated and cause embarrasment/needless flames, etc. I know that I can 'sort' by ordered subject to simulate threading but this operation is TOOOOOO slow. --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:39:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15392; Sat, 2 Nov 96 19:39:26 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA08404 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:37:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA08400 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:37:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJtKK-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 19:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Jess Bowers Subject: Q: Is there a FAQ? Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:37:47 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've lurked for about a week and have several unanswered questions. Would someone please send me a copy of the FAQ. I believe I have everything UW's Email Robot has to offer and I've checked the help screens (but that doesn't mean I didn't miss something). TIA, T. Jess Bowers GSU College of Law tjbowers@gsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:44:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15466; Sat, 2 Nov 96 19:44:04 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA02070 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:42:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA02066 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:42:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJtOU-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 19:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: INFORMATION Date: 2 Nov 1996 23:13:53 GMT Message-Id: <55gkjh$sq5@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Yossaporn Artornchaikul wrote: [recapitalized] >I was suggested to ask for information from you. >My enquiry is whether I can send message directly to any users with >www.***.com (e.g. www.disney.com), I have several times tried to do this >but it seemed to be unsuccessful. If the URL of a Web page is of the form http://www.***.com/~username/*** or http://www.***.com/users/username/***, then the email address of the owner will often be username@***.com (no www.) No guarantees, though. Some pages will contain Mailto: links, which you can use to mail people from within your Web browser. Many people put their address as a Mailto: link on the bottom of their home page. >Also I would like to know how I will know whether I am in the world wide >web. If you are using a Web browser and the current URL starts with http:// I would say you are on the Web. (Though you could be on a local Intranet, if your place has one.) Your letter appeared on a public mailing list and a Usenet newsgroup, I would not consider either of those part of the WWW, for example. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:01:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15979; Sat, 2 Nov 96 22:01:19 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA09855 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:57:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA09851 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 21:57:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJvYG-00038VC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 21:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bob@cynical.net (Bob Alou) Subject: Compiling Pine with non-default INBOX Date: Sun, 03 Nov 96 04:16:02 GMT Message-Id: <55h69m$9sa@news.interlog.com> I am having trouble finding where to define the default INBOX that Pine uses. Now, Pine reads from /usr/spool/mail/$USER as the default inbox. I would prefer to have mail read from $HOME/.mail.incoming I was considering as an alternative to recompiling placing the new inbox in the pine.conf file. It seems, though, that although Pine recognizes the $USER variable, it does not recognize the $HOME variable. If anyone has any insight into this problem, I'd like to hear it. Thanks, Bob From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:05:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16937; Sat, 2 Nov 96 23:05:19 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA10509 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:02:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA10503 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:02:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJwVq-00038WC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 22:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bobthecow Subject: email address in pine Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:52:21 -0600 Message-Id: <3278F565.6441@niu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My university uses PINE 3.91 and I have a question regarding how I might change my email address in the header. PINE's default seems to be to put my account name before the domain as my email address. I would like to change this to my preferred email address: bobthecow@niu.edu I can't seem to find a way to do this. If anyone can help me to change the email address that PINE sends in the FROM: field when I send messages, please let me know how I might do that. Thank you in advance for your suggestions. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:27:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16790; Sat, 2 Nov 96 23:27:18 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA10813 for pine-info-out; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:23:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA10808 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:22:59 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA01154; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:22:55 -0800 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:22:54 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Bob Alou Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Compiling Pine with non-default INBOX In-Reply-To: <55h69m$9sa@news.interlog.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Bob Alou wrote: > I am having trouble finding where to define the default INBOX that Pine uses. > Now, Pine reads from /usr/spool/mail/$USER as the default inbox. I would > prefer to have mail read from $HOME/.mail.incoming > > I was considering as an alternative to recompiling placing the new inbox in > the pine.conf file. It seems, though, that although Pine recognizes the $USER > variable, it does not recognize the $HOME variable. What *exactly* did you try that led to this conclusion? -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:05:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17497; Sun, 3 Nov 96 00:05:07 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA04768 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:02:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA04764 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:02:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJxSE-00038WC; Sat, 2 Nov 96 23:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Oldfield Subject: [Q] "backing up" mail folders Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:11:56 -1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have set up my 25 or so folders in my folder collection(s). I arrange for both sent and received mail to go into these folders based on the subject matter of the email. This seems to work quite well, but my folders are all starting to get quite large (~700 messages is not uncommon) and slow to use. In lieu of better suggestions I would like to have pine automatically "prune" my folders each month like it does with sentmail. Is there any way I can specify ALL my folders in the "pruned-folders" setting WITHOUT actually listing each and every one ? The other problem is that according to help, the pruned-folders go into the folder collection which is the default for saves. Can I have them go into different folder collection(s) ? Even better would be to have something like a folder collection set up for "backups" into which all the pruned-folders go each month just leaving me the "current" stuff in my other folder collections. Something like this anyway. Any ideas ? Any other suggestions for doing this "pruning" of my folders so that they remain at a manageable size while still keeping all my old email around if I need it are most welcome as well. Please reply by email to S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au Thanks in advance Simon Oldfield _____________________________________________________________________ Simon Oldfield Email: S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au CSC Australia Phone: +61-6-262-1128 A Unit of Computer Sciences Corporation Fax: +61-6-273-2116 _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:09:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17546; Sun, 3 Nov 96 00:09:59 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA04856 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:08:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA04852 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:07:58 -0800 Received: from cs60-16.cac.washington.edu (cs60-16.cac.washington.edu [140.142.176.189]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA06380; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:07:52 -0800 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:06:04 -0800 (PST) From: Stefan Kramer To: Thomas Jess Bowers Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Is there a FAQ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: skramer@shivams.cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Have you checked the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ ? --------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu Network Information Center Computing & Communications University of Washington Seattle, WA 98105-4527, USA --------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Thomas Jess Bowers wrote: > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:37:47 -0500 > From: Thomas Jess Bowers > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Q: Is there a FAQ? > > I've lurked for about a week and have several unanswered questions. Would > someone please send me a copy of the FAQ. I believe I have everything > UW's Email Robot has to offer and I've checked the help screens (but that > doesn't mean I didn't miss something). > > TIA, > > T. Jess Bowers > GSU College of Law > tjbowers@gsu.edu > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:22:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17926; Sun, 3 Nov 96 01:22:06 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA12047 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:17:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA12043 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:17:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJygF-00038BC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 01:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Greg Derylo Subject: Re: Building 3.95 on HP/UX 10.01 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:36:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: <555n77$plq@news1.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <555n77$plq@news1.halcyon.com> On 29 Oct 1996, Dan Durfee wrote: > Before I go through these files and attempt to change anything, I am > hoping someone out there has done this already. If so, was it painless > (yeah, right)? Does it just compile 'out of the box' on 10.01. Should I > forget it all together? > I've had mixed results on HPs. I recently tried it on 9.01 and it didn't work ("biuld" died when compiling "send.c" when making Pine). Out of curiosity, I tried it on the lone machine we have running 10.20 and it went fine. So I'd recommend giving it a try. Greg PS - Any recommendations for my 9.01 problems would be greatly appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________ Gregory E. Derylo "That government is best which gderylo@nyx.net governs least." www.nyx.net/~gderylo/ - Thomas Jefferson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:47:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02741; Sun, 3 Nov 96 01:47:38 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA05893 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:43:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA05889 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:43:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJz38-00038BC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 01:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snakey@Glue.umd.edu (David Andrew Ross) Subject: Re: Plans to put a password cache in pine? Date: 1 Nov 1996 13:29:20 GMT Message-Id: <55ctvg$j8u@hecate.umd.edu> References: <550i61$q1g@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <555n4a$4j1@due.unit.no> <55903i$5ta@hecate.umd.edu> <55b3dd$bt0@due.unit.no> Orjan Johansen (oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no) wrote: : Ideas.. make sure you use the above format for every incoming folder. : After all, pine could think you have more than one account on a single : machine. All accounts are on the same machine, so maybe I'm just doing something wrong. Actually, I believe it worked when I set it up for just two incoming folders (the INBOX plus a secondary incoming folder), but then it started asking me passwords again after I added more. : Greetings, : Ørjan. -- David Ross dross@pobox.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 06:31:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20336; Sun, 3 Nov 96 06:31:28 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA15514 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 06:28:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA15510 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 06:28:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vK3WB-00038BC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 06:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@linux.scott.net (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: 31 Oct 1996 08:33:30 GMT Message-Id: References: <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl> <32654846.794B@audry.gsfc.nasa.gov> <32662AE0.59E2@info.wcss.wroc.pl> <5592v4$63t@news.onramp.net> On 31 Oct 1996 02:29:56 GMT, Paul Smith wrote: >In article <32662AE0.59E2@info.wcss.wroc.pl>, misiak@info.wcss.wroc.pl >says... >>Ye Hong wrote: >>> > once again the same question: how can I read the mail of another user in >>> > the same system? I run the AIX 4.1, and I have three accounts. I would >>> > like to read mail from all the accounts starting single Pine. >>> Why don't you add .forward file in your multi-accounts so that all >>> emails will finally go to only one account? >> >>I use few accounts in order to separate email regarding different >>aspects of my work. E.g. one of my accounts is for administering >>listservers only, the onother one for all the stuff regarding contacts >>with my supercomputer users etc. >>-- >> >>Pawel Misiak > >I enable "incoming folders" in pine and use `procmail' as a filter to >distribute new mail into an appropriate folder. > >Stuff that needs regular attention (e.g cron output from daily sysadmin >tasks, notification of firewall issues, postmaster related stuff) goes into >its own `incoming folder'; stuff that is of interest when I get around to it >goes straight to a regular folder (non-incoming) and I check it over morning >coffee etc. > >Thus, a .forward in your other accounts could feed mail to your favourite >account where procmail could distribute and filter it. > Or, if like me, you haven't quite got procmail working yet, try the following: In your .pinerc, setup alternate incoming folders like so: incoming-folders=ACCOUNT2 {xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx}/var/spool/mail/accountname, ACCOUNT3 {xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx}/var/spool/mail/otheraccountname, JOEBOB {127.0.0.1}/var/spool/mail/joeb Where ACCOUNTx & JOEBOB are the folder names displayed, xx.xx.xx.xx are the IP address of your machine(s), and the /var/spool/mail... lines are the actual system mailboxes for the accounts. In this case, you must set these as {host}/mailbox, in order to force userid and password checking. If you try to access them as files, i.e. ACCOUNT2 /var/spool/mail/name, you'll get a "permission denied" message. With the {host} syntax, you'll get in, as long as you know the userID's and passwords. I had trouble with using {localhost}, but I *think* that's because my /etc/hosts file is a bit screwy. 127.0.0.1 worked, as is my FQDN. I wasn't able to access my root account from my sbuntin account, though. This is probably a good thing. If you're root as well as a mortal user, you'll need to run pine as root to access everything including root. This is a bit more involved than .forward'ing everything to one account, but you've still got separate folders. -- Scott Buntin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 07:22:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20538; Sun, 3 Nov 96 07:22:47 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA09539 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 07:18:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA09535 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 07:18:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vK4G9-00038BC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 07:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: MIME-Attaches attached to reply? Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:59:43 -0400 Message-Id: References: <54l7ov$61c@spinnaker.rhein.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <54l7ov$61c@spinnaker.rhein.de> On 23 Oct 1996, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: > Just a simple question: Why does pine 3.95 keep a MIME attach from a > mail in the reply I send? > [...] You can control whether or not Pine will include attachments in the reply. Go into the configuration and look for include-attachments- in-reply (something like that: I am going from memory). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 07:38:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19014; Sun, 3 Nov 96 07:38:46 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA16242 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 07:35:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA16238 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 07:35:42 -0800 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbogc13119; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:35:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15795; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:36:54 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05854; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:34:38 -0300 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:34:35 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: Gregory Tucker-Kellogg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: INBOX is read-only (Pine 3.95, SunOS) In-Reply-To: <55d8s2$mmr@mufasa.harvard.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Me too i have the same message "Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly" i want to know why? also i want to know where can i get information in WWW about installing pine in my home directory ( just for me ) and what file that i can downloading it i want to download pine that can configure to my system thanks ************************************************************************** ** *** ** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** ** college of engineering *** ** ** Computer Engineering student *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** ** Kuwait University *** ** ** *** ** ** *** ** ************************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 07:58:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20966; Sun, 3 Nov 96 07:58:30 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA16447 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 07:54:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA16443 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 07:54:32 -0800 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbogd14243; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15813; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:55:59 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06105; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:53:46 -0300 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:53:45 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII what is uninx banaries of Pine, pico and IMAP ? ************************************************************************** ** *** ** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** ** college of engineering *** ** ** Computer Engineering student *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** ** Kuwait University *** ** ** *** ** ** *** ** ************************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:04:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21011; Sun, 3 Nov 96 08:04:29 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA10014 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:02:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA10010 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:02:03 -0800 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQboge14743; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15824; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:03:25 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06155; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:01:12 -0300 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:01:11 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII how can i know my system platform so that i can install pine? ************************************************************************** ** *** ** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** ** college of engineering *** ** ** Computer Engineering student *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** ** Kuwait University *** ** ** *** ** ** *** ** ************************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:05:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17299; Sun, 3 Nov 96 08:05:38 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA16547 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:03:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA16543 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:03:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vK50V-00038BC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 08:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: logan@kronos-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov (Logan Shaw) Subject: IMAP folder specification question Message-Id: <1996Oct30.014246.21668@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:42:46 GMT Hi. I use pine, and I have an IMAP folder on a remote system that I want to access. I have added by going to my list of incoming folders and adding this specification: {remotehost}folder However, my user-id on the remote host is actually different than on the local host. It prompts me with the wrong one and I have to re-type the right one every time I access the folder. Is there a way I can tell pine to use an alternate user name on that host? I'm imagining what you can do with Unix "rcp" or "rdist" or even "rdump", i.e. something like {username@remotehost}folder or maybe even {remotehost!username}folder Just curious. Thanks, Logan -- Logan Shaw, Unix Systems Administrator "everybody / loves to see / justice done / on somebody else" (Bruce Cockburn) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:08:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21083; Sun, 3 Nov 96 08:08:00 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA10079 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:05:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA10075 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:05:49 -0800 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQboge14992; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15827; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:07:16 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06186; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:05:03 -0300 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:05:02 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII my system is sunos 5.3 how can i install pine on it? ************************************************************************** ** *** ** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** ** college of engineering *** ** ** Computer Engineering student *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** ** Kuwait University *** ** ** *** ** ** *** ** ************************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:56:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14469; Sun, 3 Nov 96 08:56:04 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA17049 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:52:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA17045 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 08:52:26 -0800 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbogh18311; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15978; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:53:56 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06464; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:51:43 -0300 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:51:42 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i want pine version 3.91? where can i get it? ************************************************************************** ** *** ** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** ** college of engineering *** ** ** Computer Engineering student *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** ** Kuwait University *** ** ** *** ** ** *** ** ************************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:53:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25503; Sun, 3 Nov 96 17:53:09 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA17508 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:50:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA17501 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:49:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKEAE-00038BC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 17:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dbromage@metz.une.edu.au (David Bromage) Subject: Pine and procmail Date: 4 Nov 1996 01:22:23 GMT Message-Id: <55jggf$bgr@grivel.une.edu.au> I've got a few problems with procmail and pine. Assuming a piece of mail passes through all the filtering rules, I want it to go to /var/spool/mail/dbromage. Instead, the "default" mail folder appears to be /use/dbromage/mail/? ? is a very strange name for a folder since I do not have the ? character anywhere in my .procmailrc Cheers David From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:58:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26150; Sun, 3 Nov 96 18:58:11 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA24584 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:55:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA24574 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:55:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKF9F-00038BC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 18:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Howie Subject: Re: [Q] Trying to transfer RTF files with AOL Date: 3 Nov 1996 17:54:07 GMT Message-Id: <55im7v$mc7@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <553rep$99k@panix3.panix.com> In comp.mail.pine Jeff Kalikstein wrote: : On 28 Oct 1996 massato@panix.com wrote: : > : > Is there any way to send Rich Text Format files as a MIME attachment : > that is NOT in type TEXT/PLAIN? I'm trying to send an RTF file to an AOL user. : > What happens is that the TEXT/PLAIN attachment simply gets viewed in-line, and : > the other person can't download it as a separate RTF file. : Why don't you just use pkzip to make it a different file. Or just include it directly in the body of your mail message? RTF files are just a plain ascii file in any case - why bump up the size by sending them as a Mime attachment? Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:58:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26421; Sun, 3 Nov 96 18:58:25 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA18254 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:55:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA18250 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:55:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKFBA-00038VC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 18:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: INBOX is read-only (Pine 3.95, SunOS) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:45:18 -0800 Message-Id: References: <55d8s2$mmr@mufasa.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Nov 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > Me too i have the same message > "Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly" > i want to know why? Fix the directory protection on /tmp. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26247; Sun, 3 Nov 96 19:03:00 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA18323 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:00:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA18318 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:00:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKFCL-00038VC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 18:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:34:48 -0500 Message-Id: References: <55i7h0$727@nerd.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <55i7h0$727@nerd.apk.net> On 3 Nov 1996, High Flight wrote: > I'd hate to post a "me too," so I'll add something. That seems to be the > only major user-friendly feature that's missing. Is it just not feasible > from an engineering perspective? Once upon a time I seem to remember one of the Pine Development Team commenting in passing that killfiles were at least under consideration for a future version of Pine. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:03:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17641; Sun, 3 Nov 96 19:03:38 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA24658 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:00:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA24648 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:00:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKFBu-00038BC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 18:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: INBOX is read-only (Pine 3.95, SunOS) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:53:35 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <55iu34$i8c@csun2.csun.edu> On 3 Nov 1996, jeffrey trust wrote: > > > "Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly" > > Fix the permissions on /tmp. Somebody write-protected it. > Actually I wonder if it might be a pine problem. Due to widespread > mailbox-lock errors (and other bugs I'm not aware of) the computer center > here has reverted to pine 3.91. Locking is the same in Pine 3.95 as it was in Pine 3.91. The only difference is that in 3.95, a problem with locking is reported, whereas in 3.91, it silently proceeded. In other words, 3.91 (and earlier versions) is happy to allow your mailbox to be corrupted, whereas 3.95 gives you a warning that there may be a problem. All it takes is bad luck; have mail delivery happen at the same time Pine does a rewrite of the mailbox (checkpoint or expunge). On a few systems (e.g. FreeBSD) the lock failure warning really is spurious. It was initially to BSD specifications that the code was written, hence the past practice of silently proceeding. But most systems today are not BSD, and even the majority of BSD systems follow the SysV locking convention (which can have the problem) and not the BSD locking convention. If your computer center reverted to 3.91 because of this warning, they've swept the underlying problem under the rug. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:33:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26366; Sun, 3 Nov 96 20:33:46 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA19471 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:30:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA19455 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:29:10 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA22997; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:16:04 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA03433; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:18:24 -0600 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:18:21 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Logan Shaw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP folder specification question In-Reply-To: <1996Oct30.014246.21668@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Logan Shaw wrote: > Hi. I use pine, and I have an IMAP folder on a remote system > that I want to access. I have added by going to my list of > incoming folders and adding this specification: > > {remotehost}folder > > However, my user-id on the remote host is actually different than on > the local host. It prompts me with the wrong one and I have to re-type > the right one every time I access the folder. Is there a way I can > tell pine to use an alternate user name on that host? I'm imagining > what you can do with Unix "rcp" or "rdist" or even "rdump", i.e. > something like > > {username@remotehost}folder > > or maybe even > > {remotehost!username}folder > > Just curious. Try {remotehost/user=username}folder then it'll only ask for the password. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMn1udiGB07hAGnFhAQGg/gQAp2HXQ7X/91cf04yCNL0bOb1MikAwWDkE Jxf6237WzkY8jyWrs5l93lT3nz73g+6We3+2eAbCQ+xNRXRajYP5mjc4s+/CCkO+ +EDoBzjulQENFP737S/bojdW1vFt9Xhl6+JU7lv/edmLmn5UFTP3O0BcM3/uBYZl m1HHsklv3PY= =DgF2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:40:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26184; Sun, 3 Nov 96 20:40:26 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA25907 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:37:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tiberium.circ.gwu.edu (tiberium.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.251]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA25903 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:37:37 -0800 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (gwis2 [128.164.127.252]) by tiberium.circ.gwu.edu (8.8.0/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA26421 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gretchen@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.8.0/8.6.12) id XAA16471; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:37:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:37:03 -0500 (EST) From: Gretchen Ann Reilly Message-Id: <199611040437.XAA16471@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Url: http://www.gwu.edu/~circ/QAnov1.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.5 Subject: finding e-mail addresses at GW Cc: gretchen@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu The computer folks at GWU told me ya'll are the ones to talk to about this: Why isn't there some way (or maybe there is, and I just don't know it) to find out someone's GW e-mail address when you're in the compose message mode? If you need to send someone a message and you don't have their address, you have to close your e-mail (which is so slow to open and close) and go out to that earlier screen that lets you find an address and then go back into your e-mail (which is so slow....). Can someone using PINE find out someone else's e-mail address while in the compose message mode? I don't think I gave my address for ya'll to respond... it's gretchen@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Thanks, Gretchen Reilly From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:14:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28361; Sun, 3 Nov 96 22:14:31 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA27151 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:10:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA27147 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:10:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKIAb-00038VC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 22:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Compression script for Pine - UNIX users. Date: 3 Nov 1996 23:44:12 -0600 Message-Id: <55jvrc$u49@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [cc'ed and posted] In article , David Hunt wrote: > Some time ago I began to have problems with 'over-quota' warnings due to > a much too large mail file. I wrote a small script to compress the files > in the mail directory between Pine sessions, ending the quota warnings. Just don't do that to your INBOX. > This script utilizes gzip compression, and reduces the size of the mail > files to 35% of original. Unless you've set GZIP="--best" in your environment, you could get better compression (at the expense of longer compression time) by adding a -9 or --best to the gzip command. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:55:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28989; Sun, 3 Nov 96 22:55:03 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA21380 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:50:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA21376 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:50:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKInB-00038VC; Sun, 3 Nov 96 22:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbgeo002@huey.csun.edu (jeffrey trust) Subject: Re: INBOX is read-only (Pine 3.95, SunOS) Date: 3 Nov 1996 20:08:04 GMT Message-Id: <55iu34$i8c@csun2.csun.edu> References: <55d8s2$mmr@mufasa.harvard.edu> Mark Crispin (mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU) wrote: > On 1 Nov 1996, Gregory Tucker-Kellogg wrote: > > I just upgraded pine on our Sparc from 3.89 to 3.95. Testing it on > > my own account, I get the following message > > > > "Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly" > Fix the permissions on /tmp. Somebody write-protected it. Actually I wonder if it might be a pine problem. Due to widespread mailbox-lock errors (and other bugs I'm not aware of) the computer center here has reverted to pine 3.91. Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Trust (jtrust@csun.edu). Student, Dept. of Geological Sciences, California State University, Northridge (for which I don't speak). "The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves." -John Muir http://www.csun.edu/~hbgeo002/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:11:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29204; Sun, 3 Nov 96 23:11:30 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA21685 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:08:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA21681 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:08:23 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA15704; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:08:14 -0800 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:08:13 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Logan Shaw , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Print every message in folder, piping each through mp - HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andrej, you did a better job of expressing the point I was trying to make. Thanks! -teg On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Logan Shaw wrote: > > > > > Hope this helps. I believe that the fact that an export does not > > > produce the same kind of data as a save is probably one of pine's worst > > > violations of the principle of least astonishment. But hey -- overall > > > it's a pretty good program. > > > > Interesting view. If Export and Save used the same format, we wouldn't > > have needed two different commands. > > > > -teg > > > > > > At least one point: Export translates message to local conventions (I > believe, it even translates between transport and local character sets) > and Save leaves message intact, which is quite correct. > > If you ever change it, you will hopelessly break one of them > > greetings > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 > SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > > NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:13:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29096; Sun, 3 Nov 96 23:13:37 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA21645 for pine-info-out; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:05:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA21641 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:05:35 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA27197 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:04:34 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25786; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:05:49 +0300 (MOW) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:05:47 +0300 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Terry Gray Cc: Logan Shaw , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Print every message in folder, piping each through mp - HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Logan Shaw wrote: > > > Hope this helps. I believe that the fact that an export does not > > produce the same kind of data as a save is probably one of pine's worst > > violations of the principle of least astonishment. But hey -- overall > > it's a pretty good program. > > Interesting view. If Export and Save used the same format, we wouldn't > have needed two different commands. > > -teg > > At least one point: Export translates message to local conventions (I believe, it even translates between transport and local character sets) and Save leaves message intact, which is quite correct. If you ever change it, you will hopelessly break one of them greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:08:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29711; Mon, 4 Nov 96 00:08:30 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA22389 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:04:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov (ptolemy-fddi1.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.113.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA22385; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:04:26 -0800 Received: from exodus.arc.nasa.gov by ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov (4.1/) id for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 4 Nov 96 00:04:17 PST Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:04:14 -0800 (PST) From: Logan Shaw X-Sender: logan@exodus.arc.nasa.gov Reply-To: logan@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov To: Terry Gray Cc: Logan Shaw , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Print every message in folder, piping each through mp - HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Logan Shaw wrote: > > Hope this helps. I believe that the fact that an export does not > > produce the same kind of data as a save is probably one of pine's worst > > violations of the principle of least astonishment. But hey -- overall > > it's a pretty good program. > > Interesting view. If Export and Save used the same format, we wouldn't > have needed two different commands. Hehe. And all this time I thought the essential difference was that save marks a message to be deleted, while export doesn't. To me, save was analogous to Unix "mv", whereas export was analogous to Unix "cp". I had assumed the change in format was an unintentional inconsistency. Makes sense this way, though. - Logan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:03:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28775; Mon, 4 Nov 96 01:03:48 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA29196 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:00:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nzamky.sk ([194.196.125.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA29192 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:00:25 -0800 Received: from pentacom.pentacom.sk (servis.pentacom.sk [194.196.125.3]) by nzamky.sk (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA18890 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:03:31 +0100 Message-Id: <327DB0EC.72E1@pentacom.sk> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 10:01:32 +0100 From: "Pentacom s.r.o" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: news servers] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:31:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30352; Mon, 4 Nov 96 01:31:03 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA29461 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:26:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA29454 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:26:03 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:20:06 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA25613; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:25:36 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:25:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "Frederick V. Heitkamp" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Questions In-Reply-To: <557f4s$ao2$1@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On 30 Oct 1996, Frederick V. Heitkamp wrote: > Frederick V. Heitkamp (heitkamp@amiga1.fred.org) wrote: > > Sorry about the previous post, my terminal emulation was > messed up. > > My questions are: How to you edit the subject line when posting > or replying to news? Pine alwatys seems to put To: > in there for me. Ummm... I think you're confusing different screens here? It is quite possible -- probable even -- that Pine is showing you "To: username" in the Index screen (in the column you see the sender's name for messages you receive from others). This is quite separate from the Subject text (which is at the right hand end of each entry's line in the Index screen. When you start a Reply I would be really surprised if you're getting anything untoward; could I ask a silly question: have you tried it (as against _assuming_ what will happen)? > How to I fix "rsh IMAP connection timed out" when connecting to > nntp server? This implies that you have got your Pine configured to use IMAP rather than NNTP to read Usenet News from your news server. First check that you have set a value for "nntp-server" in your Pine Configuration Screen. You will need this setting in order to be able to _post_ articles to Usenet News. Setting this also implicitly sets up a "news collection" configured to use NNTP to the same server for news _reading_. In most cases people just need to set a value for nntp-server, and should leave the (related)_ news-collections variable _unset_. >From the appearance of the error message I suspect that you have a value set currently for news-collections. Either unset this or, if you *really* need it make sure it looks something like this: news-collections=*{news.your.site/nntp}[] The important part is the "/nntp"; it is this that tells Pine to use NNTP to connect to this server for news reading. If you miss "/nntp" off then Pine uses the IMAP protocol to try and read news instead. If your news server isn't running an IMAP daemon configured to serve the news then it won't work for you! Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:35:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30399; Mon, 4 Nov 96 01:35:18 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA23434 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:31:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA23428 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:31:35 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:25:48 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA26502; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:31:17 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:31:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "H. M. Hubey" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suppressing some of the headers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" A far better solution (in that it will benefit all the recipients rather than just yourself) is to contact the person who sends out the message and ask them to use the Blind Carbon Copy (BCC) header to list the intended recipients rather than Carbon Copy (CC). CC shows the full list of recipients to each recipient; BCC suppresses the list. Note that to prevent some misconfigured mail delivery agents (the software receiving and delivering the message on each recipients' system) still revealing the list as a series of "Apparently-to" headers a "To:" header should be supplied. This could be the sender's own e-mail address (in which case they'll get a copy of the message back themselves). Alternatively the magic fake e-mail address along the lines of: Name of list:; will work (Note the magical ":;") In fact if they are using Pine 3.93 or later and a Distribution List they can short-cut this to just putting the lists's nickname in the "Lcc:" (List Carbon Copy) header field. This will automatically fill in a suitable "To:" field value derived from the full (descriptive) name of the list, and use BCC to list the intended recipients. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 30 Oct 1996, H. M. Hubey wrote: > > How does one suppress the cc field on > receipt of pine mail I get about 1200 names on the > cc field when I receive mail, and it's much much > longer than the message which is usually a few lines. > > Is it possible to suppress the cc field on mail > received? > > > > > > -- > o-o-o-o-oo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o > http://www.csam.montclair.edu/Faculty/Hubey.html > hubey@pegasus.montclair.edu hubeyh@alpha.montclair.edu > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 03:20:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31345; Mon, 4 Nov 96 03:20:11 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA24603 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 03:16:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA24599 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 03:16:52 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:10:48 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) for id LAA00078; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:16:19 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:16:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Pine problems (need HELP) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Another solution to avoiding the .pine-debugN files is to compile Pine from the source code without the '-DDEBUG' command line option amongst the other C flags. This gets rid of the debug files once and for all (so if you want to trace a problem you'll need to compile up a DEBUGable version). Note that the pre-compiled executables are compiled, I believe, *with* the -DDEBUG option, and hence produce the files (unless invoked with the '-d 0' commandline option already referred to). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Jago wrote: > On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Lev Kitsis wrote: > > > Please I need Help with the Pine ! > > There are some files that Pine is creating during its work > > and they called like > > > > > > .pine-debug1 > > .pine-debug2 > > .pine-debug3 > > .pine-debug4 > > > > Does anybody knows what they do? Do I need them in my $HOME directory > > Or I can Remove 'em without any Question > > and What should I mark in .pinerc so that files will appear in some > > other places > > i want. > > Those are files that Pine creates for sake of debugging in case the > program should mysteriously crash. By default, Pine sets the debug level > to 1. Everytime you run Pine, it makes a new debug file like in your > case. To prevent these from being created, use the command 'pine -d 0' > (without the quotes). This tells Pine to set the debug level to zero, > meaning that no debug file will be created. Of course, you can set this > as an alias (if you're on Unix) or symbol (if you're on VMS). As for me, > I set up a 'p' alias to run Pine at 0 debug level. Lazy? Yeah, but who > cares? ;-) > > -- > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } > { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } > { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } > { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} > { "The way to do is to be." } > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 04:19:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31663; Mon, 4 Nov 96 04:19:29 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA25433 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 04:15:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA25423 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 04:15:02 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:06:27 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA19143; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:11:55 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:11:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: timneeno@educator.nctu.edu.tw Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: help? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" {Isn't it strange how people never seem to tell you the whole story, or even enough for you to answer properly... :-} You said in your message that you're using a Macintosh. I'm *assuming* you are using and talking about the Pine mail program (mainly because you're asking for help in a forum about the Pine mail program, and also because you mention the "Export" command, a term not used by many other mail programs). Next thing: I *know* that Pine is not available as a program for a Macintosh (an icon you can double-click to get Pine running with a full Mac interfaxce). So I'm *assuming* that you are running some sort of terminal program to login to a mainframe computer (running UNIX?) and using Pine there. If I'm right in these assumptions... When you use Pine's "Export" command a copy of the message is placed in a file in your home directory on the (UNIX?) mainframe. This is not the same as your Mac's own hard disk. To get it there you will need to use some sort of file transfer program on your Mac (and possibly also on UNIX) to copy the file across from your home directory down to your Mac's hard disk. Such a program could be something like Anarchie or Fetch (if your Mac has an Ethernet-type connection) or Kermit or Xmodem (if you have only a plain serial link). Only you or people at your site know what software isinstalled on your computer(s). Please ask your local help desk for assistance. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 1 Nov 1996 timneeno@educator.nctu.edu.tw wrote: > > > Hi. > > I hope you can help me. I'm using a Mac and I want to export email onto my > desktop. I know I can hit "Export file" and put in name of home directory, > but what do I hit to actually send it there before I quit?? Please answer > to Rabi'a Neeno at timneeno address. Thankyou. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:26:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32331; Mon, 4 Nov 96 06:26:44 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA03057 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:20:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from julie.univ-savoie.fr (univax.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.120.32]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA03053 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:20:03 -0800 Received: from fuji.univ-savoie.fr by julie.univ-savoie.fr (8.8.2/jtpda-5.0) with SMTP id PAA03278 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:20:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:20:24 +0100 (MET) From: Christophe Harbine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem with PINERC configuration... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, We are running PINE on PCs ( Win 3.11 and Win 95 ) as "free-service" terminals for students. PINERC is configured to run PC-PINE as IMAP client. Each student who runs PC-PINE, enter his login and password to read/send mail on the IMAP server. For such a configuration, I use the syntax user-id="" in PINERC. This is working quite good, but each time the user tries to send a message, PC-PINE asks to confirm the "user-id for from address". I am just wondering if there is a way to prevent PC-PINE from doing that. Of course, the syntax inbox-path={imaphost/user=login} is not possible here, since the imap host is accessed with different login names from the same PC-PINE. Sory for the poor english !... Thanks for your help. Amicalement, /\ Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique / \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France /\ \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 \ \ / / \/\ --------------------------------------------- PS : please answer directly, I am not in the list !... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:43:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24268; Mon, 4 Nov 96 07:43:09 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA04208 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:37:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA04194 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:37:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKR44-00038VC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 07:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Can i chat using pine? Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:27:55 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Gonzaga Santesteban wrote: > i'm a Pine's newuser, and i'd like to know if chatting is posible. And if > it isn't, what should i do? Change the server? No, you cannot use chat with Pine. Pine and chat are two entirely separate functions that have nothing to do with each other. As for how to chat, I suggest contacting your Help Desk, if there is one, or looking for a newsgroup that deals with chat-type functions. (I do not use chat myself, only ytalk, so I am not familiar with it.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:49:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03465; Mon, 4 Nov 96 08:49:16 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA29693 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:41:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA29689 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:41:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKS4V-00038BC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 08:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dowell Sean Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:20:10 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Derrick Green wrote: > On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Dowell Sean wrote: > > > My girlfriend has e-mail with university the same as i do and she writes > > to some of her friends at home. An exboyfriend of hers has her address > > and often writes letters to her, we changed her address but she always has > > to write her friends and because of mutual friends her boyfriend always > > will get her address. Is there any way to block out his E-mail or his name > > from any address or something. this is really annoying and I have bounced > > his mail back but he is persistant. please if anybody knows anything that > > could help or anywhere i could ask please leave me a message here > > Yes, get procmail filtering (if you're on UNIX) and write the following > recipe. > > :0 > * ^From:.(email1@address.com|email2@address.com) > /dev/null > > That will throw it into the trash. You can put as many email addresses > these as you like. You can also write scripts that will bounce it right > back to him with a message. > > The bottom line is that you have to have procmail filtering or some other > mail filtering program. > > --- > Derrick Green > eusdegr@wser.ericsson.se > can you use wildcards with his name or country etc ?? The Honourable SEAN H.N. DOWELL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:36:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06427; Mon, 4 Nov 96 10:36:36 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA08491 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:32:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA08487 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:32:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKTkC-00038BC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 10:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Problem compiling on HP-UX Date: 3 Nov 1996 23:38:47 -0600 Message-Id: <55jvh7$fih@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Greg Derylo wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Greg Derylo wrote: > > > > I just downloaded PINE 3.95 and tried a build on an HP 735 running > > HP-UX 9.01 and got the following error in the section entitled > > "Making Pine": > > > > cc: Internal Error 5705. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Any recomendations would be greatly appreciated. If you've got the unbundled C compiler, patches to the compiler are available at http://us.external.hp.com/patches/html/ptc_hpux.html Alternately, you could try compiling just send.c with less optimization or different flags, to see if the compiler problem is being triggered by the flags you're passing it. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:40:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA31583 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA04499 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:27:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA04493 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:27:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKUe1-00038VC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 11:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Horst.Hanak@infp.fzk.de Subject: Content-type: message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:41:45 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are two messages shown in 'FOLDER INDEX' with pine. Only one message arrived with Content-type: multipart/mixed the second part Content-type: message/rfc822. The second part is shown with 0 byte Message and 0 lines Text! With 'mailx' I see one message. mailx -H -f tmp/mail O 1 j.royston Thu Oct 31 18:23 121/4129 Re: your mail > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.101.24044.cts4.846780936.1" > Content-Length: 3277 > Parts/attachments: > 1 Shown 19 lines Text > 2 Shown 0 byte Message > 2.1 Shown 0 lines Text > ---------------------------------------- > > --PART.BOUNDARY.101.24044.cts4.846780936.1 > Content-ID: <101_24044_846780936_7@cts4> > Content-type: message/rfc822 > > From Horst.Hanak@infp.fzk.de Wed Oct 30 08:30 MEZ 1996 > Return-Path: > Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com by cts4.europe.dg.com (8.6.13/Jerry's sendmail configuration) > id IAA12192; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:30:54 +0100 > From: Horst.Hanak@infp.fzk.de Is there a compile-option or a setup-option to have also in pine the presentation for only one message in the case of Content-type: message/rfc822? Horst Hanak __________________________________________________________________ Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe E-Mail: Horst.Hanak@infp.FZK.DE Institut:INFP Horst Hanak ------------------------- Postfach 3640 tel: +49 7247/82-3353 D 76021 Karlsruhe / Germany fax: +49 7247/82-4624 __________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:28:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA11785 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA11591 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:22:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA11587 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:22:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKVTk-00038BC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 12:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Stop pine from rewriting .pinerc ? Date: 3 Nov 1996 23:56:19 -0600 Message-ID: <55k0i3$g24@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I've missed this in the documentation or online help, please give me a hint where to look. Otherwise, can anyone explain to me how I can curb pine so that it doesn't feel the need to rewrite its .pinerc everytime it runs? I can see many situations where pine would need to rewrite the .pinerc, but it appears that it rewrites it *every* time it runs. This seems excessive. This question comes about as the result of some drive activity profiling a friend did on a busy multi-user machine. It was determined that the majority of the writes on the drives housing his users' home directories are coming from pine rewriting its .pinerc. An RTFM reply is welcomed, if you indicate the FM. Thanks! Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:35:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA12579 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA11737 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:27:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA11733 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:27:30 -0800 Received: from dana.ucc.nau.edu (dana.ucc.nau.edu) by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-6 #18805) id <01IBG72RE5KW02UFXJ@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:27:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (jcc4@localhost) by dana.ucc.nau.edu (8.7.1/2.12b-nau) with SMTP id NAA19408 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:27:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:27:15 -0700 (MST) From: Joe Cain4 Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: WARNING!!] (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 15:00:21 -0500 From: CROLLING24@aol.com To: jcc4@dana.ucc.nau.edu Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: WARNING!!] In a message dated 96-11-04 08:12:12 EST, croll@ohio.net (Chris Rolling) writes: << >>>FYI >>> >>>There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. >>>If you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Irina", DONOT >>>read the message. DELETE it immediately. >>>Some miscreant is sending people files under the title "Irina". If >>>you receive this mail or file, do not download it. It has a virus >>>that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. Please be >>>careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about. >>> >>>( Information received from the Professor Edward Prideaux, College of >>>Slavonic Studies, London ). >>> >> --------------------- Forwarded message: From: croll@ohio.net (Chris Rolling) To: Sara7710@aol.com CC: Brad.Dudas@ustra.mail.abb.com, Crolling24@aol.com, mhumer@ix.netcom.com, ColemanS@tcescra1.scranton.indy.tce.com Date: 96-11-04 08:12:12 EST >Return-Path: >Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 07:24:39 -0500 >From: Forrest Godby >Organization: MAPCOM Systems, Inc. >To: Chris Rolling >Subject: [Fwd: WARNING!!] > >-- >Forrest E. Godby >FGODBY@MAPCOM.COM >MAPCOM Systems,Inc. >7345 Whitepine Road >Richmond, VA 23237 >(804) 743-1860 > >The Future is Spatial! >Return-Path: <75720.770@CompuServe.COM> >Received: from mail.grpva.com (I2020-MailHub.i2020.net) by mail.i2020.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) > id AA09874; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:01:57 -0500 >Received: from arl-img-7.compuserve.com by mail.grpva.com (5.65/SMI-SVR4) > id AA24869; Fri, 1 Nov 96 18:19:01 -0500 >Received: by arl-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) > id SAA26446; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:53:25 -0500 >Date: 01 Nov 96 18:52:41 EST >From: DAVE - FDSI DENVER <75720.770@CompuServe.COM> >To: VONNIE COOK , > Adam Gadbois , > Forrest Godby , > INTELLIGRAPHICS , > TRENT KELLY <75720.770@CompuServe.COM>, > BILL MAH <76660.2342@CompuServe.COM>, > GARY MILLER , Eric Olsen , > GARY WILKISON >Subject: WARNING!! >Message-Id: <961101235241_75720.770_FHR37-1@CompuServe.COM> >Content-Type: text >X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 > >>>FYI >>> >>>There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. >>>If you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Irina", DONOT >>>read the message. DELETE it immediately. >>>Some miscreant is sending people files under the title "Irina". If >>>you receive this mail or file, do not download it. It has a virus >>>that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. Please be >>>careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about. >>> >>>( Information received from the Professor Edward Prideaux, College of >>>Slavonic Studies, London ). >>> > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:56:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA13403 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA06581 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:52:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA06576 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:52:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKVxR-00038BC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 12:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Mozena Subject: Please help w/ .procmailrc Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:17:24 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK, my system has procmail, and I've gotten it set up far enough that I can have mailing lists sorted into different folders. Problem is, my system doesn't have the man pages for procmailex, so I don't know how to use procmail & Pine to: A) Toss all mail from a certain IP address into /dev/null and send a "your mail was trashed unread" message in response. and B) Same as A), except sort by keyword in header or body. (As in "autoresponder," test," etc.) If somebody wants to send me a copy of a typical .procmailrc that accomplishes these things, that would be wonderful. If I just get a pointer to a FAQ that spells it out for the non-programmer, that would be fine as well. Thanks in advance. "Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." -- Kipling http://www.alliance.net/~moz19/home.html ** Finger for Geek & PGP Blocks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:25:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA31415 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA13317 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:19:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA13307 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:18:53 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:16:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:16:29 -0500 From: SandraB Reply-To: SandraB To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: feature / script to block muliple access In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <96Nov4.161604est.18433@gateway.happy.com> > On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Lynn Clark wrote: > > If we start pine on one machine, everything is fine. Then, with this > > instance of pine running, we start pine on another machine as the same > > user. Along these lines, is there a feature that I may have missed that prevents a user from firing up more than one session of pine? (currently using 3.93). We use a "windowing" software for AIX Unix and sometimes a user will forget that they have a pine session running in one window and fire up another one in another window. Has anyone written a script to prevent this type of event? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:49:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA17722 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA11207 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:44:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA11198 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:44:24 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (dlm@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA28422; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:44:20 -0800 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:44:17 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: David Andrew Ross cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Plans to put a password cache in pine? In-Reply-To: <55d4lm$jtl@hecate.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Nov 1996, David Andrew Ross wrote: > Problem solved... I realized that the name of my imap server really > resolves to one of two machines to balance the load. I just picked > one of the two and now I only have to log in once per session! > Hmmm... How do both machines get to your folders? If they access them via NFS, you are vulnerable to locking failures, at least with the UW imapd. This could lead to folders getting corrupted. It is safer and more efficient to have imapd running on the server that physically stores the data. I wouldn't be suprized if the savings in NFS overhead completely offsets the extra imapd load of putting everything on one server.... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8374.94 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:31:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA18114 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA18164 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:27:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA18160 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:27:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKZII-00038BC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 16:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: IMAP HOW? Date: 4 Nov 1996 21:55:20 GMT Message-ID: <55loo8$7b6@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , Harry Eldridge writes: > HEllo all, > How do I find out how to configure IMAP for pine? > I tried getting some info from my computer by typeing man imap but no > response. The man pages for pine were not any help either. > I want to configure Imap to retrive my messages from my ISP instead of > useing popclient that produces a blank message every other message. > Any help is appreciated. You have to have root previlidge (be a sys adm) to set up an IMAP server. It is not your job. It is your ISP's job. You should ask them. It is quite easy to do if they want to set up one. Even if the server is equipped with IMAP server, you may not see any man page for it, unless such man pages are installed (not likely). You can do a telnet to port 143 to test it it exists. For example, I can "telnet ucunix.san.uc.edu 143" and see the greetings from the server. I had to use ^] to get out of the telnet connection (quit, exit and bye all fail to kick it off). You are warned ... :-) Just my 2c. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:03:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA16505 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA14572 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:59:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA14562 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:59:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKakz-00038WC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 17:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@linux.scott.net (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: Untitled Date: 4 Nov 1996 23:50:23 GMT Message-ID: References: On 3 Nov 1996 08:05:01 -0800, Omar Butaiban wrote: > > > how can i know my system platform so that i can install > pine? > Just a guess, but I think yours is running Unix, System V, Release 4.0. Does that help?: -- -- Scott Buntin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:11:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA20852 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA20556 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:08:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA20552 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:08:36 -0800 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 4 NOV 96 18:03:07 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:03:07 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Printing Problems (2nd request) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure if this msg was ever received, and since I didn't receive any responses, I'll try it again... I've been putting off this question, hoping to resolve the problem on my own, but I haven't had any luck. Whenever I attempt to print a message using ^Y (attached-to-ansi set in config file), everything cooks along just fine, my software (Procomm Plus/Windows) indicates that it's operating in "dedicated print mode", but just when the job is about to print, I get an HP msg indicating a printer port problem. When I look at Print Manager, I see that the printer (HP DeskJet 540) is in "pause" mode & to resume the print job only sends up the same port problem message again. Some info that might be helpful: I'm using Pine 3.94 (didn't have this problem with the previous version), my comm port is COM2 & my printer is LPT1. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. I've already tried disabling Print Manager but ended up with the same problem. Many, many thanks! ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:32:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA21207 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA20914 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:29:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA20910 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:29:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKbDq-00038aC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 18:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "'Rob' R. Fulwell" Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:56:43 -0800 Message-ID: References: <55i7h0$727@nerd.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <55i7h0$727@nerd.apk.net> On 3 Nov 1996, High Flight wrote: > Mike Harris (mharris@nj5.injersey.com) wrote: > : This girl's predicament, and many others, is *exactly* why I think > : PINE needs the ability for killfiles. > > I'd hate to post a "me too," so I'll add something. That seems to be the > only major user-friendly feature that's missing. Is it just not feasible > from an engineering perspective? Well, Pine does not do any filtering (that is left to outside programs that are specifically made for this purpose (see the threads about procmail and filter)). Having the facility for killfiles (with e-mail) would mean that Pine would have to do some pre-processing of the mail as it arrived. This is typically done by filter programs, so would not be handled by Pine. It seems that it would be more likely for Pine to incorporate killfiles when reading news as Pine handles all the fetching and display of newsgroups and there is not another external program that would handle the filtering of these articles. I suppose it would be possible for someone to write an interface between Pine and your filter program of choice, thus making it easier for the user to control the filtering process. -- Rob Fulwell Dod#0718-GS850L http://weber.u.washington.edu/~miser or keyserver for PGP public key NOTICE: Please check the above web page for my policy on commercial e-mail From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:15:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA20962 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA21591 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:12:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sbudiman.trg.sm.kpm.my ([161.142.252.94]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA21587 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:12:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (sharipah@localhost) by sbudiman.trg.sm.kpm.my (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00191 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:12:35 +0800 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:12:35 +0800 (SGT) From: Sharipah Rahmah bt Syed Ahmad To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: information Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello , I'm Sherry fromKuala Terengganu ,Malaysia. I'm anew internet user. Ireally do not know much about it. I'm very interested to know more about how pine works and at the same to get new friends all over the world. Hope to get a good response. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:32:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA19899 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA16059 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:29:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA16045 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:29:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKc6d-00038cC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 19:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven C King Subject: Re: ALWAYS enable background sending? Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:29:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <55ll4j$ahk@emily.oit.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <55ll4j$ahk@emily.oit.umass.edu> On 4 Nov 1996, Daniel M. Drucker wrote: > > Is there a way to have background sending be the default? > (I.e., make it always as if I'd sent a message with ^x ^r y) According to the documentation, background sending is still in its experimental stages (v3.95). I was also interested in making this a default (instead of it being an option at the bottom of the screen), but there's no current setting to make it permanent. Maybe you could suggest it to the Pine development team. Oh, in case anyone is interested, I've had no problems using background sending. It's quite nice except for one minor grievance. You can only have one background at a time, but it's nothing major. It's still a nice feature. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:18:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA22368 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA22582 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:14:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA22578 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:14:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKcop-00038kC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 20:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: 3.95 - Prompting of INBOX Emails Date: 4 Nov 1996 21:55:05 GMT Message-ID: <55lonp$57v@due.unit.no> References: <55g7rj$gv6@nerd.apk.net> <55gjh5$se4@due.unit.no> <55i788$727@nerd.apk.net> In article <55i788$727@nerd.apk.net>, High Flight wrote: >Orjan Johansen (oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no) wrote: >: >: This is determined by the assume-slow-link option. If set, then a '>' > >It was off. But I tried toggling it a few times. The result was the same. >When I enter PINE as my first application after I log on, it's inverse. But >after I exit PINE and run another application, then return to PINE, it's the >->. My ISP just installed a new machine (SunOS 5.5.1). My answer was a bit off, I said that when set, it will be a '>' when the link is slow, and otherwise it will be inverse video. It seems that when set, it will always be '>', and possibly when not set it will depend on the speed. But I rather suspect that pine does not check the actual speed at all, but just relies on this option? One thing that occured to me: maybe after you quit pine the first time, or while running the other application, your terminal settings become garbled, so that Pine does not know _how_ to do inverse video? Try to remove your TERMCAP variable ('unset TERMCAP') before starting Pine the second time and see if it helps. If you use xterm you might also want to do a 'resize'. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:52:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA24030 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA18947 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:49:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA18943 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:49:46 -0800 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbomd17838; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 01:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19196; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:01:37 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13292; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:59:24 -0300 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:59:23 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am now dowloading emacs-manual it ends with dvi.gz So, how can i uncompress it and use it ? ************************************************************************** ** *** ** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** ** college of engineering *** ** ** Computer Engineering student *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** ** Kuwait University *** ** ** *** ** ** *** ** ************************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:23:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA23910 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA25261 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:21:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA25257 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:21:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKflI-00038bC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 23:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmouse@prime.common.net (Pauline M. Marshall) Subject: Help Required Date: 3 Nov 1996 07:17:14 GMT Message-ID: I've got a little question for all interested. I am currently running PINE 3.93 and I'm not sure how to do the following. I want to list in my address book listing under the FCC: option, a folder, that isn't in /MAIL. I have 3 folders: /MAIL /FOLD1 /FOLD2. Now if I want it to FCC: into a file say 'topic1' in folder /FOLD1, how do I do that? Or can I? I tried listing it as: FCC: FOLD1/topic1, but it comes up with "file FOLD1/topic1 isn't a folder in /MAIL, create? and when I try to creat it it gives me an error, and doesn't send the mail. :( Am I dreaming, or is this possible (short of changing my defult save directory)? Please e-mail all responces as I don't get time to read news all the time. :( Thanx in advance. -- ___ {~._.~} - - - -- --- ---- ----- ----------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - - _( Y )_ I'm here, I'm awake, I'm dressed... Pauline M. Marshall (:_~*~_:) --= MightyMouse =-- (_)-(_) ... WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!? mmouse@common.net - - - - - -- --- ---- ----- ----------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:24:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA24245 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA19327 for pine-info-out; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:21:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA19323 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:21:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKfk3-00038BC; Mon, 4 Nov 96 23:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: news@HAMMER.msfc.nasa.gov Subject: cmsg cancel <329.654193326831@news.nemonet.com> no reply ignore Control: cancel <329.654193326831@news.nemonet.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:08:10 GMT ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:03:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA24788 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA21190 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:00:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccug.wlv.ac.uk (ccug.wlv.ac.uk [134.220.1.12]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA21186 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:00:03 -0800 Received: from comp-df.wlv.ac.uk by ccug.wlv.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0vKiIX-000oH6C; Tue, 5 Nov 96 09:59 GMT From: george xinari To: Ceaser the Geazer Subject: Are you gonna reply? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:59:52 -0500 (EST) Priority: NORMAL X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Come on Ceaser, please reply!!................HAIL CEASER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:43:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA21142 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA24343 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:34:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA24339 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:34:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKmYG-00038BC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 06:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (DION Maxime) Subject: Re: Compiling Pine with non-default INBOX Date: 5 Nov 1996 14:06:00 GMT Message-ID: <55nhk8$hjm@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <55h69m$9sa@news.interlog.com> Un jour, Bob Alou (bob@cynical.net) affirmait publiquement que: | I would prefer to have mail read from $HOME/.mail.incoming Then, in the pine.conf, define the INBOX as ~/.mail.incoming HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Rien n'imprime si vivement quelque chose à notre souvenance que le désir de l'oublier. -- Montaigne From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:47:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA12034 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA00744 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:39:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA00740 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 06:39:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKmae-00038BC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 06:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (DION Maxime) Subject: Re: filtering multiple mailing lists into separate folders??? Date: 5 Nov 1996 14:14:01 GMT Message-ID: <55ni39$hjm@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <327E2224.399B7F7@webdev.co.uk> Un jour, Stefan Magdalinski (stefan@webdev.co.uk) affirmait publiquement que: | Is there a way I can get pine to automatically file stuff into | different folders PINE CAN'T do that. "man procmail" or "man filter" if you can. (On UNIX platforms). HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Rien n'imprime si vivement quelque chose à notre souvenance que le désir de l'oublier. -- Montaigne From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:07:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA27688 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA24761 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:00:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA24757 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:00:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKmyd-00038BC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 06:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fpielage@smaug.netwave.de (Friedhelm Pielage) Subject: MacIntosh, Pine and extended Characters? Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 13:21:33 GMT Message-ID: <327f3535.2145590@news.nacamar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of mine has a MacIntosh and uses the Pine program for email. We correspond in German, so that there are some extended characters (Umlaute, those with two points on top). I post Umlaute with Mime, quoted printable, but she can't see them. If she replies the Umlaute, I can see the characters as I posted them. This are the Mime settings in her mail: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE So what can she do for seeing my Umlaute. And how can she do it? (I've never seen this Pine program) Thanks. Friedhelm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friedhelm Pielage, Bremen, Germany fpielage @ mail.netwave.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:24:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA28446 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA01296 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:18:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA01292 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:18:35 -0800 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.8.2/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA18585 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:18:33 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:18:33 +0100 (MET) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: quoted-printable/MIME-compliance problem... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello, i have set in my pine conf the character set to iso, when i receive iso encoded messages from other users, it works if there is no X.400<->SMTP conversion on receive, but it doesn't work when i send. The only cases where it works is when the other person also uses pine (seems to me)... I have recently tryed to send files through attachment to a friend of mine who is on a sun and to my father (X.400) in both cases it didn't work... What possibities exist to find the source of the problem (pine, MTA(sendmail), mail exchanger, bridge etc...) and what test should i run? Does pine decide when to generate quoted-printable? Can this behaviour be controlled. I tryed to receive on my machine MIME compliant sendings composed of a note in iso-latin 1 char set + attachments, but the attachments are uuencoded in the note, separated by: _________________________________________________ --smxr-96110511082010673 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=PAD1.TXT Content-Transfer-Encoding: Base64 an then the uucode and for example the german umlauts appear this way: =94=3do mit Umlaut =84=3da mit Umlaut =81=3du mit Umlaut =e1=3dscharf s =82=3d e accent aigu =8a=3de accent grave seems to me to be quoted printable, but i am not an expert.... if i send an attachment, there too it appears merged with the note... any help will be appreciated ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:49:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA00761 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA05902 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:41:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA05887 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:41:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKqNR-00038WC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 10:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gtk@walsh.med.harvard.edu (Gregory Tucker-Kellogg) Subject: Re: INBOX is read-only (Pine 3.95, SunOS) Date: 4 Nov 1996 15:55:52 GMT Message-ID: <55l3m8$k9@mufasa.harvard.edu> References: <55d8s2$mmr@mufasa.harvard.edu> Mark Crispin (mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU) wrote: : On 1 Nov 1996, Gregory Tucker-Kellogg wrote: : > I just upgraded pine on our Sparc from 3.89 to 3.95. Testing it on : > my own account, I get the following message : > : > "Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly" : Fix the permissions on /tmp. Somebody write-protected it. % ls -ld /tmp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 8 Oct 9 13:45 /tmp -> /var/tmp/ % ls -ld /var/tmp drwxrwxrwx 3 root 1536 Nov 4 10:50 /var/tmp/ % pine [... menu comes up and then I get this line:] Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly So how are my permissions set incorrectly? -- Gregory Tucker-Kellogg Department of Biological Chemistry and Molecular Pharmacology Harvard Medical School, Boston MA 02115 "Mojo Dobro" Finger for PGP info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:40:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA01982 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA01237 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:36:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA01233 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:36:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKrGd-00038WC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 11:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: BIG TIME Folder file problems Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:42:44 +0000 Message-ID: References: <556cfk$202@news1.panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <556cfk$202@news1.panix.com> I encountered a similar trouble several months ago, except that my folders vanished completely (were deleted). I was using 3.95. I downgraded then to 3.94, but the bug was still there(!). I made a bug report then, but got no answer at all. As countermeasure, now I made my ~/Mail directory read-only, that is nobody can add or remove folders from there. Since then no folder vanished anymore, but pine gets sometimes upset and crashes! :-) Just to mention, since on this Sun box I am the administrator, I am sure there was no configuration change to justify this strange behaviour of pine. I was pretty astonished, because I use pine since 3.89 and never got such problems. Great tool this pine, however! Regards, Mihai L. -- Mihai Teodor LAZARESCU Ph.D. student Voice: + 39 (0)11 564 5128 | Polytechnic of Turin Fax : + 39 (0)11 564 4134 | Electronics & Communic. Department email: lazarescu@polito.it | Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 http://ccmserv.polito.it/mihai/ | 10129 TORINO, ITALY On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Andrew Mathis wrote: > Hello all: > > Over the past couple of days, I have lost all of the information in my > INBOX and saved-messages files. They've literally gone from having, > respectfully, 5 and 21 messages in each, to going to 0 bytes. > > And the really freaky thing is that I didn't do anything. > > Particularly in the latter case, I'm perplexed. Since, when the file > was revised to 0 bytes I was neither running an FTP (which would allow > me to replace the file), nor was I in Unix mode, I'd have had to have > deleted all 21 messages manually. > > This I *know* I did not do. > > My ISP claims ignorance. They claim they didn't delete my messages (I > have no reason to doubt them on this), and they also claim that > they've never seen a "bug" of this kind in Pine. > > So has anyone ever seen this kind of bug in Pine? Particularly Pine > 3.94? Particularly Panix users? > > Please reply to me at aem0608@is2.nyu.edu > > E-mail is preferred, but public responses OK too. > > Thanks, > Andrew Mathis From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:50:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA03412 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA08974 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:46:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA08967 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:46:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKsKo-00038WC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 12:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dana Booth Subject: Mark posts Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:19:11 GMT I would like to be able to mark posts as 'delete' in the newsgroups, so that they'll be eXluded. I find that I can do this on a per-post basis, but I would like to mark a group of posts, or all the posts in a particular newsgroup, for example, with one command. Is this possible in Pine? ---------------------------- Dana Booth ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:52:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA03316 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA02965 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:46:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA02959 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:46:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKsL1-00038ZC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 12:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tlange@netcom.com (Tom Lange) Subject: Re: pine 3.95 SERIOUS DISK ERROR Message-ID: References: <5533b9$bum@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <55a9ik$bt4@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:33:04 GMT My girlfriend encountered the same disk error over on Netcom some time ago. It turned out that there was a file placed in her /mail directory which had a suffix of "lock". I have no idea how that strange file got there, but removing it solved the problem. It's been so long ago that I don't remember whether the file was called inbox.lock or some strange number followed by .lock. All I know is that Netcom was acting really flakey that day and there was no apparent reason why those .lock files should be there, so I got rid of them. Problem solved. CHEERS! Tom From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:42:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA06037 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA11743 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:31:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA11739 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:31:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKtxi-00038WC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 14:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wllarso@sandia.gov (William L. Larson) Subject: Re: IMAP HOW? Date: 5 Nov 1996 14:53:40 -0700 Message-ID: <55od14$ij6@somnet.sandia.gov> References: In article , Harry Eldridge wrote: >HEllo all, >How do I find out how to configure IMAP for pine? >I tried getting some info from my computer by typeing man imap but no >response. The man pages for pine were not any help either. >I want to configure Imap to retrive my messages from my ISP instead of >useing popclient that produces a blank message every other message. >Any help is appreciated. As was stated in another followup, configuring an IMAP server to allow you to retrieve your messages is the job of your ISP. This is a server process, not a client process. Until your ISP provides IMAP services, you are stuck. (By the way, most of the time typing "man imap" will NOT return anything unless there is a man page for a command named "imap". From what I have seen, most IMAP servers run a process called "imapd". The "man" command expects an exact match unless you supply a "-k" option.) Be aware that some ISPs are less than thrilled with having IMAP because of the possibility of users leaving mail on the system using up disk space. They really want users to stick with a POP3 type operation where the mail is downloaded and deleted. Now, another possibility is that instead of using "popclient" you may want to look into using "fetchmail". "fetchmail" is the successor to "popclient". It may take care of the problems that you are experiencing. No knowledge of any certainity though. Just tried out "popclient" again and duplicated your problem. What appears to be occuring is the "popclient" adds an additional header line which some mail clients interpret as the beginning of another new message. (At least this is what appears to occur with the "Elm" mail system, "Pine" may have the same type problem.) Actually, it appears the "popclient" adds two "From POPmail" header lines to each message. You may want to track down the new "fetchmail" which may fix your problem. Or you can always strip out the extra header lines introduced by "popclient" to solve your problem. Either way, it will be simpler than trying to set up an IMAP server. Bill Larson (wllarso@sandia.gov) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:22:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA08098 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA08663 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:16:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA08659 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:16:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKvfT-00038ZC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 16:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: A Wish for the Folks at PINE Date: 5 Nov 1996 17:56:28 GMT Message-ID: <55nv4c$fir@news1.epix.net> References: Mike Harris (mharris@nj5.injersey.com) wrote: : I would like to ask the PINE development team if they could : install control keys that would let one go to the beginning : and to the end of a message either within the composer or : within reading a message. This would be especially useful : when blocking text, as currently if one wants to highlight : text from one point to the end of a document, they have to : hit Next Pg as many times as it takes -- which can be a : pain in the tuchus. If you look at the options available at the bottom of the screen you will see that (while reading): "w" followed by "^V" (control + v) takes you to the bottom "w" followed by "^Y" (control + y) takes you to the top and while composing (in pico) use ^W rather than w then ^v or ^y Hope that helps ... BYE : And, of course, a killfile feature would be nice. It might, but be warned that killfiles slow down loading (retrieving). Bye again. John From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:30:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA08676 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA14230 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:09:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from trapdoor.aracnet.com (trapdoor.aracnet.com [204.188.47.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA14224 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:09:41 -0800 Received: from shelob.aracnet.com (shelob.aracnet.com [204.188.47.2]) by trapdoor.aracnet.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA32256 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:09:21 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:09:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Jeffrey G. Rapp" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Questions and Answers (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -JGR ---- Jeffrey G. Rapp jrapp@capfund.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- I recently changed internet providers. The question I have concerns the "From:" address. I have a Domain "CAPFUND.COM" and I have configured my .pinerc file to include a customized header with the "From:" address being "jrapp@capfund.com". My problem is that the custom headers are not functioning and when I send a message or reply the address is "capfund@capfund.com". The only suggestion I have been given by the sysop is to do my email in Eudora or another IP program. Can you assist me. I am very comfortable with pine and would like to remain with pine as long as this problem can be eliminated. Thanks -JGR ---- Jeffrey G. Rapp jrapp@capfund.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:05:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA10521 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA17563 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:52:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA17553 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:52:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKy2Z-00038WC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 18:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Compression script for Pine - UNIX users. Date: 5 Nov 1996 15:49:42 -0600 Message-ID: <55ocpm$156@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , David Hunt wrote: > On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > > Just don't do that to your INBOX. > > Since the script runs gzip processes before pine is run, and again after > pine is finished, I don't see how it could affect INBOX. The way you're using it, it wouldn't being your INBOX is in another directory. I was warning against someone else taking your lead and applying the same procedure to their INBOX, which is a bad idea. > I've been > running the script for 6 months now with no problems re. INBOX. This > brings up some questions I had not considered re. INBOX configuration, > incoming folders, etc. I've only got INBOX, without incoming folders > enabled. In this case, the INBOX is really a peice of the mail spool. Right, but since many Unix machines have world write access on the mail spool directory (generally with the sticky bet set), you *could* (but shouldn't!!) run gzip on your mail spool file too. It was doing this that I was warning against. > Since INBOX isn't in any of my directories, then it should be safe from > the ravages of gzip. (INBOX appears as a folder in mail/[] when using > pine, but never shows in that directory when doing 'ls -al' on mail.) > Are there configurations of pine that could endager the INBOX if they > had gzip run on the directory 'mail'? Sure. If you do any mail filtering via an external program such as procmail, filter, et. al., and the messages are filtered into folders in your mail directory, then the same problems would occur. You just need to guard against compressing a mail file that could have new mail appended to it. That's all I'm warning about. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:52:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA12556 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:52:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA13454 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:47:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA13450 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:47:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vKzsw-00038ZC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 20:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Start Subject: Re: Are you gonna reply? 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Visit our website for complete info. | `------------------http://commercial-directory.com/free-ads-----------------' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:57:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA12561 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA19258 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:50:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA19254 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:50:23 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr27.interl.net [205.244.161.27]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA15307; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:48:06 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01097; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:49:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:49:45 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: "Jeffrey G. Rapp" cc: pine-info Subject: Re: Pine Questions and Answers (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Jeffrey G. Rapp wrote: > I recently changed internet providers. The question I have concerns the > "From:" address. I have a Domain "CAPFUND.COM" and I have configured my > .pinerc file to include a customized header with the "From:" address being > "jrapp@capfund.com". My problem is that the custom headers are not > functioning and when I send a message or reply the address is > "capfund@capfund.com". The only suggestion I have been given by the sysop > is to do my email in Eudora or another IP program. Can you assist me. I > am very comfortable with pine and would like to remain with pine as long > as this problem can be eliminated. Thanks You'll need to grab the source code (if you don't have it already you can get it at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.tar.gz or something like that) and recompile with one change. cd into ./pine3.95/pine/osdep then edit the os-lnx.h (for Linux - judging by the message id in the message headers, that's what you're running) file. Go to line 71, uncomment #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM and save it. Compile it, and then it will allow the From: custom header. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMoAY2iGB07hAGnFhAQHrJwQAw6h2HkJCe8GJTaBohvvixMgXy+IvzorZ ITJLY+ZMTLITN4af2MWvDJEeJmcrUX7rtXVI0M2iVOPCERTEfr3wnzqDwreoARVs aUEj7+VxG2xvvYygwFn41/n+gdVRTLYovMlYaEGQ7ASdHq5FBFw0N72UONiXOanP /lPmwpQDQfA= =l6gQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:37:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA11499 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA19858 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:32:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA19854 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:32:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL0Wd-00038ZC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 21:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hchapman@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Speed Racer) Subject: Re: A Wish for the Folks at PINE Date: 6 Nov 1996 02:58:40 GMT Message-ID: <55out0$nmg@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <55nv4c$fir@news1.epix.net> DearOldDad (dad@epix.net) wrote: : Mike Harris (mharris@nj5.injersey.com) wrote: : : I would like to ask the PINE development team if they could : : install control keys that would let one go to the beginning : : and to the end of a message either within the composer or : : within reading a message. This would be especially useful : : when blocking text, as currently if one wants to highlight : : text from one point to the end of a document, they have to : : hit Next Pg as many times as it takes -- which can be a : : pain in the tuchus. : If you look at the options available at the bottom of the screen you will : see that (while reading): : "w" followed by "^V" (control + v) takes you to the bottom : "w" followed by "^Y" (control + y) takes you to the top : and while composing (in pico) use ^W rather than w then ^v or ^y For some reason that doesn't exist in any of the versions we've had here and I'm using 3.95. R. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:08:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA29202 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA14682 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:02:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA14678 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:02:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL13j-00038WC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 22:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pwyzlic@pwyz.rhein.de (Peter Wyzlic) Subject: Re: Print every message in folder, piping each through mp - HELP Date: 30 Oct 1996 08:08:41 GMT Message-ID: References: <5563hv$5kh@news.eecs.umich.edu> On 29 Oct 1996 23:21:35 GMT, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: >I have also tried the formail component of procmail. I still get all the >messages in the mbox formatted as one. > >I am not sure whether I fail to understand pine APPLY commands, mp or >formail. I thought I had read something in the release notes of the newer >pines that they could keep an aggregate print like this separate. > >I would deeply appreciate any help someone can offer. I have never used mp, so I have no opinion. But if you are using formail you may do (e.g.): cat folder | formail -k -X From: -X To: -X Date: -X Subject: -X Message-ID: -s > newfolder Note the "-s" switch! For the rest: man formail. Perhaps it is advisable to write a shell script which does all the tasks automagically (saving of the original folder, filtering with formail, saving the new folder). \bye -- ########################################################################### Peter Wyzlic pwyzlic@pwyz.rhein.de ########################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:33:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA13224 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA20882 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:27:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA20878 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:27:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL1O5-00038WC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 22:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@linux.scott.net (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: Problems getting POP3 to run with UNIX Pine Date: 6 Nov 1996 05:54:03 GMT Message-ID: References: <55ojg1$c27@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> On 5 Nov 1996 16:44:01 -0700, David Start wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I'm attempting to use Pine 3.95 to read mail on a > POP3 server. I've used the recommended syntax: > > {commercial-directory.com/pop3}travagt > >or > > {commercial-directory.com}travagt > > > But when I try this from pine I get the following error: > > "Connection refused, 143" > > Is there some other change I need to make to get this to work? > I had the same problem a while back. I'm not sure if I was using the same syntax, though. I assume comm-dir-com has multiple servers? It's possible that com..dir..com defaults to a particular machine which does not provide pop3 service, while mail type stuff should go through another machine - try one of the following: {pop3.commercial-directory.com}travagt or {mail.commercial-directory.com}travagt One of these might just work. -- Scott Buntin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:33:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA13484 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA15171 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:27:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA15166 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:27:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL1OI-00038bC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@linux.scott.net (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: Pine Questions and Answers (fwd) Date: 6 Nov 1996 05:59:18 GMT Message-ID: References: On 5 Nov 1996 16:21:52 -0800, Jeffrey G. Rapp wrote: > > >-JGR >---- >Jeffrey G. Rapp >jrapp@capfund.com > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >I recently changed internet providers. The question I have concerns the >"From:" address. I have a Domain "CAPFUND.COM" and I have configured my >.pinerc file to include a customized header with the "From:" address being >"jrapp@capfund.com". My problem is that the custom headers are not >functioning and when I send a message or reply the address is >"capfund@capfund.com". The only suggestion I have been given by the sysop >is to do my email in Eudora or another IP program. Can you assist me. I >am very comfortable with pine and would like to remain with pine as long >as this problem can be eliminated. Thanks > Hmm. Instead of the customized header, try : personal-name=jrapp user-domain=capfund.com Works for me.. My machine has the rather unimaginative name of "linux.scott.net", but mail shows up as "sbuntin@calweb.com". Now I just need to fix my newsreader to do the same. -- Scott Buntin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:17:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA13818 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA21448 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:12:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA21444 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:12:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL28a-00038aC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 23:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbaker@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jason Baker) Subject: Problem with custom prints scripts in 3.95 Message-ID: <1996Nov4.093354.8659@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 4 Nov 96 09:33:54 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We're running into a problem with using a custom print script, where Pine keeps trying to treat arguments to the script as filenames. I've put it in a 'personally selected print command' as: Printer List: "" print_pine -bl06 In this case, "-bl06" is intended to be an argument to the script print_pine. When only print_pine is called, it works great. When the option is there, we get this error on the screen: [PRINT Result: Can't open -bl06: No such file or directory] This has me completely baffled. I'm fairly certain it's not the script, but if somebody wants to see it, I have no problem in posting it as well (it's a short Perl script). Any ideas? Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jbaker@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca | To err is human; to really Systems Administrator, Information Systems | bugger things up requires BC Family Maintenance Enforcement Program | the root password. print unpack("u","92G5S\=\"!A;F]T:&5R(\'!E Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:31:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA13024 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA15932 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:27:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA15928 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:27:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL2MR-00038WC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 23:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ryan Shaw Subject: save password Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:27:25 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i'm running pine 3.95 under linux and am wondering as to whether or not mailbox passwords may be saved in some way or not. i am accessing mailboxes on a unix server via imap and am quite tired of entering my password each time. thanks in advance for any info. direct email would be the most useful as i don't read this group often. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:49:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA10228 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA21750 for pine-info-out; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:39:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA21746 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:39:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL2Y1-00038WC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 23:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbgeo002@huey.csun.edu (jeffrey trust) Subject: Re: How to resend a message? Date: 3 Nov 1996 20:10:13 GMT Message-ID: <55iu75$i8c@csun2.csun.edu> References: Pavel Sykora (sykora@vsz.fsih.cvut.cz) wrote: > Hi, > I sent something to somebody, but I made a mistake in the address. I > received a notification from mailer daemon. Now I want to resend the same > message (only with the address edited) from the folder "sent-mail". What > is the simpliest way to do it? Use the 'bounce' command ('b'). You might have to enable it in your setup first. Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Trust (jtrust@csun.edu). Student, Dept. of Geological Sciences, California State University, Northridge (for which I don't speak). "The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves." -John Muir http://www.csun.edu/~hbgeo002/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:47:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA14374 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA16866 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:42:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA16862 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:42:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL3Xi-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 00:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Newsgroup Warning? Date: 4 Nov 1996 18:57:24 GMT Message-ID: References: On Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:02:32 -0500, Mike Harris wrote: > Is there a way to disable the "this is going out to thousands > of people" warning before posting to a newsgroup? After the > hundredth post, it becomes very annoying. > > I am using Unix PINE version 3.91. > > Mike Hyuck, Hyuck.... Very true. I always wondered about this myself but didnt get any replies back from wise folks out there. Guess the only way is to hack the source code.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:54:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA14419 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA22574 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:48:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA22567 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:47:49 -0800 Received: from scegud01.gud.siemens.at (root@[10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09283 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:47:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at by scegud01.gud.siemens.at with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA298540056; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:47:36 +0100 Received: from localhost by ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at (1.39.111.2/1.37) id AA055549999; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:46:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:46:38 +0100 (MET) From: Diethard Ohrt Reply-To: ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Format of .newsrc? Message-Id: Company: Siemens AG Organization: PSE TMN Graz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I had a .newsrc file produced by "tin". The lines were like siemens.graz.test: 1-4 Pine refused to read any News, it just complained: No messages (or alike). It only worked when I removed the numbers in each line, but now tin marks all news as unread. Is this a desired behaviour of Pine? Cheers, Diti _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _ __------ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | -- \ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ |_ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | ___-\ o | _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ /_/ | | |__---| Steiermark - das gruene Herz Oesterreichs Styria - the green heart of Austria Styrie - le coeur vert d'Autriche =========================================================================== Diethard Ohrt SIEMENS AG / PSE TMN G1 ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at A-8054 Graz Austria ohrt%ws6a21@graz.pseg.siemens.co.at Phone +43-316-1707-709 Diethard.Ohrt@siemens.at http://www.siemens.at/~psem/pse/de/psehomep.htm =========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:41:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA14184 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA17571 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:33:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from defiant (defiant.flash.net [208.194.223.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA17567 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:33:52 -0800 Received: from ipm3-92.flash.net (user@ipm3-92.flash.net [208.194.205.92]) by defiant (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA12705 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 03:33:43 -0600 From: mstan@flash.net ( mstan@flash.net) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Newsgroup Warning? Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 09:32:14 GMT Organization: Anonymous anonymous Reply-To: mstan@flash.net Message-ID: <328055e1.7746596@mail.flash.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 €€> Is there a way to disable the "this is going out to thousands €€> of people" warning before posting to a newsgroup? After the €€> hundredth post, it becomes very annoying. €€> €€> I am using Unix PINE version 3.91. €€> €€> Mike €€ €€Hyuck, Hyuck.... Very true. I always wondered about this myself but didnt €€get any replies back from wise folks out there. Guess the only way is €€to hack the source code.... €€ I'm really biting my tongue on this one....For all the non-hackers out there, do the following: edit your .pinerc file located in your home directory. find the text "feature-list" and add the following line to it: news-post-without-validation save the file and restart pine. **********bonus************ while you're at it, add the following line to quit without that annoying "are you sure you really want to quit" message: quit-without-confirm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:06:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA14589 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA23546 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:57:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA23542 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:57:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL4iA-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 01:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atlka@cent01.oi.pg.gda.pl (Adam Tla/lka) Subject: Re: A Wish for the Folks at PINE Date: 6 Nov 1996 09:12:36 GMT Message-ID: References: <55nv4c$fir@news1.epix.net> >"w" followed by "^V" (control + v) takes you to the bottom >"w" followed by "^Y" (control + y) takes you to the top I've made a patch to abtain work of Home, End and other editing keys in all pine fields. If you use terminfo try it: ftp://ftp.pg.gda.pl/pub/software/services/mail/pine3.95L01at.diff.gz O-O Adam Tla/lka mailto:atlka@pg.gda.pl ( System & Network Administration Group - Computer Center, Technical University of Gdansk, Poland From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:10:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA14900 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA23634 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:04:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from venere.inet.it (venere.inet.it [194.20.8.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA23630 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:04:53 -0800 Received: from sun1 (geodata.inet.it [194.20.13.48]) by venere.inet.it (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA40904 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:04:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199611061004.LAA40904@venere.inet.it> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 96 11:06:03 0100 From: geodata spa Organization: edp X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.1 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pop unix for sunos 4.1.1 X-URL: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.10/msg00380.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a problem !! could you help me or indicate where can i get the solution ? I have a sun sparct station 2 running sunos 4.1.1 and I use it to download the mail form my provider via uucp I would like to read my mail using a PC and Eudora. somebody has told me that i must install a pop on my sun ? where can i find it ? thanks. luciano From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:23:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA14574 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA23810 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:17:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA23806 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 02:17:29 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 6 Nov 96 18:15:44 +0800 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:15:44 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: jeffrey trust cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to resend a message? In-Reply-To: <55iu75$i8c@csun2.csun.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Nov 1996, jeffrey trust wrote: > > I sent something to somebody, but I made a mistake in the address. I > > received a notification from mailer daemon. Now I want to resend the same > > message (only with the address edited) from the folder "sent-mail". What > > is the simpliest way to do it? > > Use the 'bounce' command ('b'). You might have to enable it in your setup > first. > It is best *not* to use the bounce command in this case. Why? Because bounce does not alter the original header that was typed in error. So, if you have a To: which is bad and Cc: which is good and the person on the Cc: list does a reply their reply will bounce too. So, I would recommend using the forward from the sent-mail folder and do whatever minor editing you need to make it look "right". The other way is to save the message from the sent-mail folder to the postponed-mail folder and do a compose. You'll be prompted to resume composing. Take it from there..... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:05:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA16519 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA20255 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 04:54:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA20251 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 04:54:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL7PX-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 04:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Problems getting remote host to run with UNIX Pine Date: 6 Nov 1996 12:36:13 GMT Message-ID: <55q0nt$p34@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <55k43v$qha@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Un jour, travagt@primenet.com (travagt@primenet.com) affirmait publiquement que: | I have a mail account on commercial-directory.com my username is travagt | assume passwd is: 123456 [in case it is needed] I set the program, and | it says "connection refused, 143" This could mean that commercial-directry.com does not have an imapd installed. | I have it set as: | "travagt" {commercial-directory.com}travagt Shouldn't it be something like: COM-DIR {commercial-directory.com}inbox or perhaps COM-DIR {commercial-directory.com}/path/to/your/mailbox Then, if imapd is installed on commercial-directory.com, you should be prompted for your username and passwd. Sorry, I forgot the right syntax to provide your username directly. HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Celui qui peut, le fait. Celui qui ne peut pas, l'enseigne. -- G.B. Shaw From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:58:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA16932 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA26575 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:48:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA26571 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:48:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL8Iz-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 05:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clam@europa.winmail.com (salt on my hide pennies on my eyes) Subject: how to print from pine while running screen(unix multi window prog)?? Date: 5 Nov 1996 23:25:40 GMT Message-ID: <55oidk$8gn@europa.winmail.com> has anyone figured out how to print in pine while running screen? i print to attached to ANSI, and if i am running screen, it prints the message out to my screen, but if i'm not running screen, it prints it to the printer just fine..it's kind of an annoyance and i'd like to be able to print stuff w/out quitting or detaching my screens...anyone figure this out? email would be appreciated over replying to the newsgroup if possible:) thanx -clam -- ******************************************************************************** I stand accused, just like you, of being born without a silver spoon Stood at the top of the hill over my town, I was found The Verve ******************************************************************************** http://www.bantha-fodder.com/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:27:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA17203 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA21257 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:20:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason.magellan.umontreal.ca (MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA [132.204.40.133]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA21253 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:20:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (lacroixs@localhost) by jason.magellan.umontreal.ca with SMTP id JAA22946 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6 for ); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:20:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:20:49 -0500 (EST) From: Lacroix Sylvie To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problm with Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please how can I import a File from Word to this word processing software and than transmit the file trough E-Mail Thanks sylvie lacroix From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:34:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA17326 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA21334 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:28:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA21330 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 06:28:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vL8ug-00038ZC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 06:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Mark posts Date: 6 Nov 1996 12:40:29 GMT Message-ID: <55q0vt$p34@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Dana Booth (crom@eskimo.com) affirmait publiquement que: | but I would like to mark a group of posts, or all the posts in a | particular newsgroup, for example, with one command. Is this possible in | Pine? I assume PINE-news has the same behaviour as PINE-mail. You can then select (';') all ('a') articles, and then apply ('a') a deletion ('d'). Then expunge ('x') them... Be sure that you have enable-aggregate-command-set checked. HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Celui qui peut, le fait. Celui qui ne peut pas, l'enseigne. -- G.B. Shaw From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:16:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA21444 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:16:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA00297 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:10:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA00293 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:10:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLBPQ-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 09:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: julie@cdsnet.net (Julie) Subject: Re: I LOVE PINE!!! Date: 27 Oct 1996 20:52:40 GMT Message-ID: <550i2o$roh@news.cdsnet.net> References: <32714b66.145674198@news.tds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 I'm sorry I have the same Question and also, I have 3 POP acct.s and I want to set up Pine for all three e-mail address, if I can. In article <32714b66.145674198@news.tds.net>, xtian@devo.com says... > > >Well, the subject is true but I couldn't actually use a subject >pertaining to my question as I would get needlessly flamed. So, on to >the question, shall we? > >Yep, you guessed it. FILTERING. I want to know how to filter a >message. Wait, hold on, I've read the FAQ, and I know what procmail is >(and use it daily on my unix machines)! So how could I possibly have a >question about filtering? > >I use Windows NT 4.0. I run PC Pine for Windows 3.95. The IMAP server >is also on a WIndows NT 4 system. There is no ELM, nor an ELM filter >program, for NT. Thre is no procmail for NT either. > >What kind person out there can tell me how to filter my incoming >messages? > >Much oblidged! > >-Christian > > >[c h r i s t i a n r o h r m e i e r] >D E V O Communications >Publishers of unique information on the web >http://www.devo.com >xtian@devo.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:26:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA21695 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA24896 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:21:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA24892 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:20:58 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr22.interl.net [205.244.161.22]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA26420; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:18:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA02821; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:20:20 -0600 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:20:17 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Ryan Shaw cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: save password In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Ryan Shaw wrote: > i'm running pine 3.95 under linux and am wondering as to whether or not > mailbox passwords may be saved in some way or not. i am accessing > mailboxes on a unix server via imap and am quite tired of entering my > password each time. > > thanks in advance for any info. direct email would be the most useful as > i don't read this group often. I'm running Pine 3.95 under Linux also and rather than using IMAP or POP3 within Pine to read my mail, I use fetchmail to 'fetch' the mail from my ISP's Linux mail server, then save it to /usr/spool/mail/username. Then I run procmail to split it up into folders (each mailing list into it's own folder). Check http://nll.home.ml.org/software.html and look for the link to fetchmail's author's home page. ...or I think you can get it at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Mail. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMoDIxSGB07hAGnFhAQFpIAQA0gWtJcD6Pe4cG0N3z5ARlGzKcMWtie40 BS1W8b2owNERMW9nwSurWWTaKAndndMnR7PPmMp6cHPPEwtroCXM6FY4etb5v1RD 8u2mBgX9jHTc2CvYl1+/bgYkzUkXrG2Bj45kN+s5UTW0cdWmt/uP5tlIXX17ewNA IjiqgqYDQBA= =LzaR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:14:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA23021 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA25948 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:04:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA25943 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:03:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLCHv-00038aC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 10:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: MacIntosh, Pine and extended Characters? Date: 5 Nov 1996 17:16:08 GMT Message-ID: <55nsoo$ct5@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <327f3535.2145590@news.nacamar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <327f3535.2145590@news.nacamar.de>, fpielage@mail.netwave.de (Friedhelm Pielage) writes: > > A friend of mine has a MacIntosh and uses the Pine program for email. We > correspond in German, so that there are some extended characters (Umlaute, > those with two points on top). > > I post Umlaute with Mime, quoted printable, but she can't see them. If she > replies the Umlaute, I can see the characters as I posted them. > > This are the Mime settings in her mail: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > > So what can she do for seeing my Umlaute. And how can she do it? > (I've never seen this Pine program) How does your friend use Pine on Mac? I assume it is done through a telnet login. If that is the case, it is up to the telnet software to display the character set. Try the freeware NiftyTelnet and see if it helps. Alternatively, your friend can use MailDrop to access all the IMAP folders in the account where Pine has created them. I like MailDrop alot. Make sure you use the latest beta version. Older versions are too simple and don't work too well. NiftyTelnet's home page is at: http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/dist/niftytelnet.html MailDrop's home is at: http://ackmo.baylor.edu/files/Mail_Drop/info.html Just my 2c. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:53:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA08744 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA28614 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:45:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA28610 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:45:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLDqs-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 11:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jay@elmer.acc.georgetown.edu (Jay) Subject: Pine with VMS-Style Folders Message-ID: <1996Nov6.125314.21051@guvax> Date: 6 Nov 96 12:53:14 -0500 Hello, all: I am using PC-pine 3.93 (I can upgrade, if necessary) in conjunction with Innosoft's PMDF IMAP server to connect to an Alpha System running OpenVMS with OpenVMS-Style Mail and Mail folders. I want to be able to use the folders that are stored remotely on the VMS system, rather than using folders local to my PC. PC-Pine has successfully created a folder on its own. It created a "/sentmail" folder that contains a message I sent using PC-Pine. This leads me to believe that PC-Pine CAN deal with VMSMAIL-Style folders. The problem is, I have had trouble making PC-Pine make folders that I decide on. For instance, I wanted to save a new mail message to a folder (on the OpenVMS system) called "history". I used the trusty old 's'ave command from PC-Pine and entered "history" when prompted for the folder name. I get a message back from pine that says "Busy" and pine just waits and waits... until I crash out of it from Windows 95. I figure that I've got a piece of syntax wrong at the PC-Pine config end of things. I simply enter {vmssystem.domain.edu}NEWMAIL as my inbox specification and enter {vmssystem.domain.edu}/[] as my folder collection. My question is... Is there anyone out there who has successfully used PC-Pine to remotely access and correctly use VMSMAIL-style mail folders? If so, will they tell me what I am doing wrong? TIA Jay Whittle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:15:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA25309 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA29277 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:10:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA29273 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:10:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLEEc-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 12:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kirank@xnet.com Subject: Re: Got Problems??? Date: Tue, 05 Nov 96 07:48:02 GMT Message-ID: On 11/4/96 2:56PM, in message <327E589B.53EF@eds.com>, Pubgroup wrote: > Lester S. Garrett wrote: > > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 96 10:15:54 GMT swebber@nether.net (hotline) wrote in > > comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows: > > > > > LIVE 24 HOURS/DAY!!! > > > Talk to beautiful girls!!! > > > > > > 1-900-(snipped). > How do we know that they're beautiful if we're only hearing them on a voice phone? > .................................................................................. > .................................................................................. > .................................................................................. > .................................................................................. > .................................................................................. > .................................................................................. Is this the right place for such postings ? ThinkRight.... -- ******************************************************* Kiran Kanakadandila email: kirank@xnet.com WantMoreDetails ? EmailMe ******************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:41:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA31186 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA05767 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:34:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA05761 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:34:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLIQZ-00038ZC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 16:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Magdalinski Subject: filtering multiple mailing lists into separate folders??? Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:04:36 +0000 Message-ID: <327E2224.399B7F7@webdev.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way I can get pine to automatically file stuff into different folders depending on the Resent-From line in the header or some other criteria, so that I can separate out stuff from the different mailing lists I subscribe to? many thanks in advance. -- Stefan Magdalinski webdevelopment ltd. 0171 317 1318 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:17:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA31741 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA04561 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:11:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA04557 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:11:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLIwo-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 17:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: A Wish for the Folks at PINE Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:18:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Mike Harris wrote: > I would like to ask the PINE development team if they could > install control keys that would let one go to the beginning > and to the end of a message either within the composer or > within reading a message. [...] Just for fun, try Ctrl-W Ctrl-V and Ctrl-W Ctrl-Y to see what happens either viewing or composing. :-) (I think you might be pleasantly surprised with the results.) > And, of course, a killfile feature would be nice. Killfile capability may be under consideration for a future version of Pine, but only the Pine Development Team can speak properly to this. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:34:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA31292 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA07458 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:29:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA07446 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:29:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLJGI-00038ZC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 17:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: podres@busearch.lib.binghamton.edu Subject: Security in Pine?? Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 17:27:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3273E1BF.6A0D@busearch.lib.binghamton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After the deletion of the messages from your account, are there still records that are held in the central unit but it has already been deleted from your individual accounT? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:55:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA32391 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA05382 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:50:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rigel.oac.uci.edu (rigel.oac.uci.edu [128.200.80.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA05375 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:50:16 -0800 Received: from localhost (chengtse@localhost) by rigel.oac.uci.edu (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA00757 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:50:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: PSYCHOPHILOSOPHY To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Did anyone notice that the functions ^T and ^T don't work? Is it just my account or is there a problem in this edition of pine? Knowledge to the problem is greatly appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:49:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA32571 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:49:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA06241 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:41:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA06235 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:41:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLKMt-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 18:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Confirmation of succesful delivery Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:18:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Nov 1996, Christopher Gordon wrote on comp.mail.pine: > Can anyone tell me how to get pine to request a message confirming the > succesful delivery of a message I have sent. It would also be nice if it > was possible to get confirmation of a sent message being read. I know > both these features are available for Pegasus mail in dos. OK. First, Pegasus mail is a proprietary system which might or might not conform to Internet standards. Just because Pegasus does it does not mean you can do it anywhere on the Internet. And as a matter of fact, there are no Internet standards (so far as I know) regarding return receipts. It's rather much a crapshoot. More specifically, there simply is no Internet-wide way to get confirmation back that a recipient has read a particular piece of mail. Sorry, but you're just out of luck on that one. Sometimes is is possible to get a return receipt back indicating that a particular piece of mail was placed in a recipient's mailbox, and nothing more. Go into your Pine configuration and add the customized header Return-Receipt-To: your_email-address Sometimes you will get a receipt back and sometimes you won't. It all depends on whether the receiving system honors your request, and nothing says it has to. For now that's the best you can do. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:10:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA30249 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA09600 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:05:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA09596 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:05:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLLdu-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 20:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae986@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Mavis Spence) Subject: missing message Date: 28 Oct 1996 02:09:28 GMT Message-ID: <5514ko$l8e@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> Could someone please tell me why my messages disappear after posting them on a newsgroup. It has been suggested that I could be set up to read only unread messages, but I don't think so because sometimes I go back and read messages that others have written. I need help to fix this because I cannot access any responses if I can't find the original message!! Thanks Mavis. -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:10:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA01287 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA09612 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:05:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from victor1.vv.cta.com (victor1.vv.cta.com [205.227.92.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA09608 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:05:41 -0800 Received: from rkelley.vv.cta.com (annex103.vv.cta.com [205.227.95.113]) by victor1.vv.cta.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA09102 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:08:27 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:08:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199611070408.UAA09102@victor1.vv.cta.com> X-Sender: rkelley@mail.ctainforms.com (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rkelley@ctainforms.com (Bob Kelley and Family) Subject: setup printer X-Mailer: Hello Pine-Info, I've got 3.91 (UNIX), and cannot get a printer option under setup. From the main menu, "S" takes me to setup, where Newpassword, Config and Update become available, but no Printer. If I press "P", I get an error message indicating that no "P" has been defined for this screen. I'd appreciate any help you can offer. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:40:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA03019 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA09461 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:35:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA09455 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:35:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLO1i-00038bC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 22:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Setting up my In-box path for PC Pine, need help please. Date: 6 Nov 1996 16:50:41 GMT Message-ID: <55qfl1$kug@due.unit.no> References: <5533b9$bum@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <55a9ik$bt4@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> [Posted and mailed] In article , Tom Lange wrote: >Hi, >I have a really basic question. I use Unix pine all the time but got >curious about PC Pine and installed it today. I can't seem to get the >proper in-box path specified. In my pinerc file, I've specified that my >user id is tlange and my domain is concentric.net. The smtp server is >smtp.concentric.net. The NNTP server is news.concentric.net. I've tried >to set my inbox path to pop3.concentric.net and >pop3.concentric.net/tlange. Neither setting works. Oddly enough, I had an The syntax is a bit more complicated than that: {pop3.concentric.net/pop3/user=tlange}inbox ^^^^^only if you don't have imap Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:45:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA03436 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA02493 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:40:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA02487 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:40:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLP03-00038WC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 23:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bkogawa@primenet.com (Bryan Ogawa) Subject: Re: Problems getting POP3 to run with UNIX Pine Date: 5 Nov 1996 20:22:08 -0700 Message-ID: <55p090$365@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <55ojg1$c27@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> David Start writes: > Hi Folks: > I'm attempting to use Pine 3.95 to read mail on a > POP3 server. I've used the recommended syntax: Unless they have added functionality, I believe that Pine uses IMAP4 ONLY for its remote reading. If this is the case, then you will need to use a program (probably popclient) to pull the remote news to the local server to be able to reasonably use pine with it, or convince the appropriate admins to install an IMAP server on your remote mail host. > {commercial-directory.com/pop3}travagt > >or > {commercial-directory.com}travagt > > But when I try this from pine I get the following error: > "Connection refused, 143" > Is there some other change I need to make to get this to work? >The above words of wisdom are sponsored by my .sigfile > >.----------------------travagt@commercial-directory.com---------------------. >| Put FREE classified ads in over 500 newspaper editions worldwide! Email | >| to free-ads@commercial-directory.com, information mailed back instantly, | >| Virtual servers for only $29/mo. Visit our website for complete info. | >`------------------http://commercial-directory.com/free-ads-----------------' > -- bryan k. ogawa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:49:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA26586 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA10472 for pine-info-out; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:45:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA10465 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:44:56 -0800 Received: from scegud01.gud.siemens.at (root@[10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01678 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:44:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at by scegud01.gud.siemens.at with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA291222685; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:44:46 +0100 Received: from localhost by ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at (1.39.111.2/1.37) id AA046292627; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:43:47 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:43:46 +0100 (MET) From: Diethard Ohrt Reply-To: ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at To: Pine Info List Subject: Addressing local users? Message-Id: Company: Siemens AG Organization: PSE TMN Graz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Maybe I don't understand everythhing -- please answer, though ... We have a domain gud.siemens.co.at and a local subdomain pseg.siemens.co.at. So I have two HOMEs to run Pine, and for each I defined the appropriate of the above mentioned domains. When I send mails "into the Net", this makes no problems. But when I try to address local users, their names are expanded to @pseg.siemens.co.at (e.g.), but to reach a user, a host name is required! So such a mail goes nowhere ... How can I force Pine to set the To: header with the host name, like @. ? The only way to reach local users seems to be addressing them with @, but in this case I do _not_ get the name expanded (from the passwd file) ... I tried the smtp-server setting, with no effect. Is the only way to do this setting the domain _with_ host name? But in fact, .gud.siemens.co.at is no _domain_ name ... _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _ __------ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | -- \ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ |_ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | ___-\ o | _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ /_/ | | |__---| Steiermark - das gruene Herz Oesterreichs Styria - the green heart of Austria Styrie - le coeur vert d'Autriche =========================================================================== Diethard Ohrt SIEMENS AG / PSE TMN G1 ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at A-8054 Graz Austria ohrt%ws6a21@graz.pseg.siemens.co.at Phone +43-316-1707-709 Diethard.Ohrt@siemens.at http://www.siemens.at/~psem/pse/de/psehomep.htm =========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:55:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA04407 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA11475 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:52:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA11470 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:52:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLQAZ-00038WC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 00:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "SEDIGHY M." Subject: Problem with reading attachments by Pine Message-ID: <327FE810.2ED9@ecf.toronto.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:21:21 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi, I am a new user of pine on UNIX. Sorry if this has been already discussed or seems very trivial. I have recieved an e-mail sent to me using PCpine. It has one attachment. When I try to view the attachment, I get an error message saying " VIEWER RESULT sh: hd: not found". Can somebody pleaese tell me what is wrong and how I can view the attachment. By the way, I have also tried ELM. I get the same message. Thanks in adavnce M. Sedighy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:36:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA05432 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA04730 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:32:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA04726 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:32:25 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id LAA10460; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:32:17 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id LAA09436; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:30:13 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:16:01 +0100 (MET) To: "SEDIGHY M." cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Problem with reading attachments by Pine In-Reply-To: <327FE810.2ED9@ecf.toronto.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, SEDIGHY M. wrote: -> Hi, -> -> I am a new user of pine on UNIX. Sorry if this has been already -> discussed or seems very trivial. -> -> I have recieved an e-mail sent to me using PCpine. It has one -> attachment. When I try to view the attachment, I get an error -> message saying " VIEWER RESULT sh: hd: not found". Can somebody -> pleaese tell me what is wrong and how I can view the attachment. -> -> By the way, I have also tried ELM. I get the same message. -> -> Thanks in adavnce -> -> M. Sedighy -> Inspect your ~/.mailcaps file: The attachment obviously has the mime-type application/octet-stream and the standard viewer specification there is "hd". You can edit the line in the ~/.mailcaps to call the wanted command. (Do you know which data are in the mime-encoded attachment?) It seems to be better the sender uses a mime-type for data-encoding (see the ~/.mime.types file) which fits the content: image/gif, text/html ... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:40:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA05558 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA12625 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:32:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA12621 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:32:26 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id LAA10473; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:32:19 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id LAA09439; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:30:15 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:27:18 +0100 (MET) To: Stefan Magdalinski cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: filtering multiple mailing lists into separate folders??? In-Reply-To: <327E2224.399B7F7@webdev.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Stefan Magdalinski wrote: -> Is there a way I can get pine to automatically file stuff into different -> folders depending on the Resent-From line in the header or some other -> criteria, so that I can separate out stuff from the different mailing -> lists I subscribe to? -> -> many thanks in advance. -> -> -- -> Stefan Magdalinski -> -> webdevelopment ltd. -> 0171 317 1318 -> This is not Pine's task. Use procmail or elm to filter mail into separate folders. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:48:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA04314 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA04836 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:41:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA04832 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:41:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLRpm-00038aC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 02:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jac@apk.net (High Flight) Subject: Re: 3.95 - Prompting of INBOX Emails Date: 3 Nov 1996 13:38:16 GMT Message-ID: <55i788$727@nerd.apk.net> References: <55g7rj$gv6@nerd.apk.net> <55gjh5$se4@due.unit.no> Orjan Johansen (oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no) wrote: : In article <55g7rj$gv6@nerd.apk.net>, High Flight wrote: : >The prompting for emails will vary from full inverse to just a single > : >in the far left margin. I've looked in the 'help' files and can't find : >anything that addresses this. I'd like to set it for inverse. : : This is determined by the assume-slow-link option. If set, then a '>' : will be used to save the number of characters transfered, but only : when you actually have a slow connection. : : If you don't care about the speed drop, just unset it in Setup Config. Thank you for the reply. It was off. But I tried toggling it a few times. The result was the same. When I enter PINE as my first application after I log on, it's inverse. But after I exit PINE and run another application, then return to PINE, it's the ->. My ISP just installed a new machine (SunOS 5.5.1). - Jack ~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~ o/~ "Music is God's voice" )Jack Zupan )jac@apk.net - Brian Wilson - ) Keet (^,^) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:38:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA06029 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA05432 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:33:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA05428 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:33:46 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr26.interl.net [205.244.161.26]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA15788 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 05:31:26 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA05436 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 05:33:43 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 05:33:40 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: Problems getting POP3 to run with UNIX Pine In-Reply-To: <55p090$365@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 5 Nov 1996, Bryan Ogawa wrote: > Date: 5 Nov 1996 20:22:08 -0700 > From: Bryan Ogawa > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Problems getting POP3 to run with UNIX Pine > > David Start writes: > > > Hi Folks: > > > I'm attempting to use Pine 3.95 to read mail on a > > POP3 server. I've used the recommended syntax: > > Unless they have added functionality, I believe that Pine uses IMAP4 ONLY > for its remote reading. > > If this is the case, then you will need to use a program (probably > popclient) to pull the remote news to the local server to be able to > reasonably use pine with it, or convince the appropriate admins to install > an IMAP server on your remote mail host. > > > {commercial-directory.com/pop3}travagt > > > >or > > > {commercial-directory.com}travagt POP3 support has been in there at least since version 3.91 (if not longer) - I think, and it's definately still in version 3.95 (I use it). {commercial-directory.com/pop3}INBOX ...would work for him. He _could_ use popclient (or fetchmail which has replaced it), but he doesn't have to. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMoHI+CGB07hAGnFhAQG2dAP9FIQpibja3DIEnfIWRQRUVI6xouUYjSbF 4Ad587YR8TWKqpY2LcHB4l1Cea/SdOI3Mpq42+AAxFrkjuVfhuaS49nkeMUAc6v/ DKEcYevoWHC0NQOg7CRB2I5qDn/ouDZqLk5hxgMguNMoXKYIGhVcY4XmIBY4Lumf kGrIy+gX9F8= =EGX3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 06:43:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA26102 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 06:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA15743 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 06:39:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.135]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA15738 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 06:39:25 -0800 Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu (wendye@rac10.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.110]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.8.2/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA03879 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (wendye@localhost) by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.8.2/8.8.0) with SMTP id JAA11060 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:39:21 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac10.wam.umd.edu: wendye owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:39:21 -0500 (EST) From: Wendy Phyllis Eisner Reply-To: Wendy Phyllis Eisner To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern: I recieved a read only file and saved it to a directory, but am unable to read it. I am not sure how to access it. When I go to about attachattach, it says that it is unable to be accessed because it does not know how to read the file. It is 48KB. Also, it won't let me delete it. HELP!! How can I read it or delete it. I don't even need to read it, I just want to get rid of it. Thank you, Wendy Eisner From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:21:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA09343 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA17220 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:06:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA17216 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:06:03 -0800 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id LAA47695; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:03:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:03:41 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones To: Orjan Johansen cc: tlange@netcom.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting up my In-box path for PC Pine, need help please. In-Reply-To: <55qfl1$kug@due.unit.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Nov 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: | In article , Tom Lange | wrote: | >curious about PC Pine and installed it today. I can't seem to get the | >proper in-box path specified. In my pinerc file, I've specified that my | >user id is tlange and my domain is concentric.net. The smtp server is | >smtp.concentric.net. The NNTP server is news.concentric.net. I've tried | >to set my inbox path to pop3.concentric.net and | >pop3.concentric.net/tlange. Neither setting works. Oddly enough, I had an | | The syntax is a bit more complicated than that: | {pop3.concentric.net/pop3/user=tlange}inbox | ^^^^^only if you don't have imap I think you are going to be out of luck here. If I remember correctly, PC-Pine does not support POP, and there was a posting to this effect a while ago from the Washington gurus. I just tried here with PC-Pine, with the correct syntax, and it doesn't work, even though I know that I can access my mail using POP from my home computer. Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-282-4484 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:39:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA09890 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA10070 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:31:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA10060 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:31:31 -0800 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.8.2/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA08905 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:31:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:31:29 +0100 (MET) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: just a thought.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII today was one of those nice days as the M$-crap installed in the informatics service of our university showed again and repeadetly its professionalism: it crashed. Unfortunately it is the MTA for our offcial addresses (Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr unlike bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr which is my SMTP address). This way, as often (the M$-MTA is VERY professional :) mail send to poor M$-mail-(yes they exist)-users went lost, and i have now to resend it.... and there lacks a functionality of pine, or i haven't found it yet: in the saved folder there seems to be no 'resend' option, so at the moment i am forwarding all the lots, making cut&paste with the mouse for the addresses.... Does this function exist? if not will it be implemented? is there an easier way to resend all the stuff? ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:41:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA25742 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA18122 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:36:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA18112 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:36:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLXPm-00038WC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 08:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae986@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Mavis Spence) Subject: Re: print from pine Date: 4 Nov 1996 21:54:10 GMT Message-ID: <55lom2$r4k@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> References: Andrew Shi (ez072139@peseta.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : How do print messages from pine? Can anyone tell me that? Same question from me - I have a Canon BJ-10EX Printer can I print from pine?-Mavis From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:15:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA10596 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:15:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA11192 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:07:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbmb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA11183 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:07:10 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA11695; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:41:16 +0530 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:41:16 +0530 (IST) From: Slayer X-Sender: ksri@giasbmb To: UW Email Robot Subject: Subscription to news-letter In-Reply-To: <9610250700.AA16002@docserver.cac.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there ! Thanks for sending the response letter. I would like to subscribe to your news-letter or any E-zine of yours. Please send it to this E-mail address : ksri@giasbma.vsnl.net.in Thanks once again. Srikant. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:29:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA13050 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:29:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA21224 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:27:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA21220 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:27:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLZAG-00038bC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 10:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Start Subject: Re: Setting up my In-box path for PC Pine, need help please. Date: 5 Nov 1996 18:42:02 -0700 Message-ID: <55oqda$mqu@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5533b9$bum@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <55a9ik$bt4@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> Tom Lange wrote: Hi, I have a really basic question. I use Unix pine all the time but got curious about PC Pine and installed it today. I can't seem to get the proper in-box path specified. In my pinerc file, I've specified that my user id is tlange and my domain is concentric.net. The smtp server is smtp.concentric.net. The NNTP server is news.concentric.net. I've tried to set my inbox path to pop3.concentric.net and pop3.concentric.net/tlange. Neither setting works. Oddly enough, I had an easier time getting news folders set up. What am I doing wrong and what do I need to set my in-box path to. Please post here and e-mail me at tlange@netcom.com, which is where I get most of my e-mail for now until I switch over completely to concentric.net. Thanks in advance. CHEERS! Tom From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:30:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA13229 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA13542 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:27:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA13538 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:26:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLZ9n-00038aC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 10:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Start Subject: Re: Pine Questions and Answers (fwd) Date: 5 Nov 1996 18:40:04 -0700 Message-ID: <55oq9k$mmo@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: Jeffrey G. Rapp wrote: : -JGR : ---- : Jeffrey G. Rapp : jrapp@capfund.com : ---------- Forwarded message ---------- : I recently changed internet providers. The question I have concerns the : "From:" address. I have a Domain "CAPFUND.COM" and I have configured my : .pinerc file to include a customized header with the "From:" address being : "jrapp@capfund.com". My problem is that the custom headers are not : functioning and when I send a message or reply the address is : "capfund@capfund.com". The only suggestion I have been given by the sysop : is to do my email in Eudora or another IP program. Can you assist me. I : am very comfortable with pine and would like to remain with pine as long : as this problem can be eliminated. Thanks I would add a custom header line saying "Reply-To: user@domain.com" [inserting your name and domain] then all your replies go to the right provider, it doesnt really matter the origin as long as your mail gets its replies right. 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Visit our website for complete info. | `------------------http://commercial-directory.com/free-ads-----------------' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:35:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA14841 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA15471 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:32:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from co.cees.edu (ceesnfs.co.cees.edu [131.118.223.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA15461 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:32:01 -0800 Received: from coadm2 ([131.118.223.4]) by co.cees.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12891; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:41:03 +0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961107222740.003141bc@co.cees.edu> X-Sender: bendler@co.cees.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 14:27:40 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "James E. Bendler" Subject: CC When you reply-to-all from a message that you were CC'd on, how do you keep pine from including you in the TO list? Thanks, Jim -------------------------------------------------------------- James E. Bendler MIS CEES Information Systems Coordinator Center for Environmental and Estuarine Studies P.O. Box 775 Cambridge, MD 21613 Voice: 410-228-9250 ext. 620 Beeper: 410-221-3635 FAX: 410-228-3843 E-Mail: bendler@co.cees.edu WWW: http://www.cees.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:50:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA15226 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA23320 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:46:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de (uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de [131.220.8.49]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA23316 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:46:13 -0800 Received: from oink.rhein.de (oink.rhein.de [193.175.27.130]) by uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de (8.8.2/8.8.2-ws3) with ESMTP id UAA16851 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:45:53 +0100 (MET) Received: (from Uapis@localhost) by oink.rhein.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id UAA25777 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:45:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (bahr@localhost) by apis.rhein.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA00649 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:39:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:39:39 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: "Rudolf E. Bahr" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: INBOX(READONLY)? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, After a reboot there couldn't be any other mail session. Nevertheless the message "INBOX (READONLY)" remains. Where is that annoying flag? Regards, R.E.Bahr NISI APES FINIS http://www.dainet.de/buckfast/home.htm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:16:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA15630 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA16543 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:09:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA16536 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:09:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLahO-00038ZC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 12:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Eldridge Subject: IMAP HOW? Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:47:02 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HEllo all, How do I find out how to configure IMAP for pine? I tried getting some info from my computer by typeing man imap but no response. The man pages for pine were not any help either. I want to configure Imap to retrive my messages from my ISP instead of useing popclient that produces a blank message every other message. Any help is appreciated. Thank you, Harry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:12:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA17491 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA18173 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:07:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acf4.NYU.EDU (ACF4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.139]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA18163 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:07:07 -0800 Received: by acf4.NYU.EDU (5.65/1.34) id AA05289; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:06:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:06:29 -0500 (EST) From: Beads Reply-To: beads@beadsland.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing postscript files from pine to a postscript printer under NCSA telnet Message-Id: Organization: "Beads Land, Webmaster" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I'm using Pine 3.91 on a UNIX machine and NCSA Telnet 2.6 for the Mac. I'm trying to print PostScript files using the ansiprn.c utility to deliver the output to my local printer. My printer command option is set as: enscript -2 -p - | ansiprn When I hit pr(y)nt everything seems to work. Pine goes through its motions, a print selection window opens up on the desktop. I hit return to send it on its way. And the *source* of my postscript document arrives on the printer! When I tried printing to a file, I discovered that somewhere along the line the postscript being produced by enscript was being fed as text into a second postscript file. That is, I ended up with a postscript file of a postscript file of a mail message. What's going on here, and can it be fixed? Beads * Beads (TM) Land Information Landscaping and Content Specialist * * Webmaster General GSAS Web Online * * President Emeritus Computer Advocacy @ NYU* * http://www.beadsland.com/ beads@beadsland.com (800) 607-1570 * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:48:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA17901 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA18992 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:42:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tolip.njin.net (tolip.njin.net [165.230.224.140]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA18988 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:42:47 -0800 Received: from pilot.njin.net (pilot.njin.net [165.230.224.139]) by tolip.njin.net (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA27686; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:42:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:42:13 -0500 (EST) From: "J.S. Duggal" X-Sender: duggal@pilot.njin.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: "J.S. Duggal" Subject: erasing messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Pine Manager: Need assistance: I was trying to delete 11 messages from my account. I got the following: Can't expungebecause milbox is in use by another process. Please adivise. J J S Duggal From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:52:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA18385 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA26807 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:48:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA26803 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:48:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLcFh-00038ZC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 13:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John A. Mahler Jr." Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 15:43:43 MET Subject: cmsg cancel <3277EAF8.6C90@starnetinc.net> no reply ignore Control: cancel <3277EAF8.6C90@starnetinc.net> Message-ID: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:29:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA18969 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA27732 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:25:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA27728 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:25:47 -0800 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id QAA135292; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:44:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:44:27 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: Harry Eldridge cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP HOW? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Harry Eldridge wrote: | How do I find out how to configure IMAP for pine? I don't know myself, but you can probably get started from the information below: -Gregor Jones From mrc@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 07 16:20:07 1996 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:53:35 -0800 From: Mark Crispin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:13:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA19939 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA28983 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:07:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA28977 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:07:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLdWL-00038ZC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 15:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:28:08 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Dowell Sean wrote: > This may be a dumb question but i hope someone answers it!! Good question, wrong list. > My girlfriend has e-mail with university the same as i do and she writes > to some of her friends at home. An exboyfriend of hers has her address > and often writes letters to her, we changed her address but she always has > to write her friends and because of mutual friends her boyfriend always > will get her address. > Is there any way to block out his E-mail or his name > from any address or something. this is really annoying and I have bounced > his mail back but he is persistant. There are tools (procmail) which can be used to filter incoming mail. Setting it up depends on your system and you may need to contact local support. But, for this kind of case I recommend the following: Your friend should (1) write a clear and unambiguous message to the person that she insists that he no longer send her mail. It should be polite, but there must be no two ways of interperting it. (2) When that fails (it will, but it is a crucial step), she should tell him clearly and unambiguously that if he persists in this she will talk to the university's Email people (Postmaster). (3) If he continues you MUST follow up and talk to your email people. They may be willing to do things unofficially or they may insist on persuing matters in a way that may raise a stink. My experience is that they will try a low-key quiet approach before taking further action. I have seen cases where 1 and 2 worked. And where on step 3 the postmaster in agreement with the person getting the mail informally approached the sender to make it quite clear that the recipient really didn't want to get the messages. I have never personally seen a case go beyond that. - -j - -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBMoDYqxu6nIqxqP+5AQHXNAQAredItwwLSBwgxBt0XrWBNDe3LtHcRGLP qrG+GvtDAkN2WBoiHViekv4SuB57raQAvLWD3+/ynI3V0aVVLtgMZyP1Hm2xk+hV BxKzvY6UXLVwElP9r3P2zRsuFaPZjqJCAuY/RGxr9AMtvctEFrSeCOqoqzYeK8kv Nz15lvicoqM= =GqXG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:31:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA22060 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA23605 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:28:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from physics.ubc.ca (physics.ubc.ca [137.82.43.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA23598 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:28:10 -0800 Received: by physics.ubc.ca (4.1/UBC_Phys1.5.6) id AA08710; Thu, 7 Nov 96 16:28:07 PST Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:28:06 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew van Wollen X-Sender: mvanwoll@physics.ubc.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: FAQ about pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi guys, I hope this reaches the right address... I didn't know where to send my question. How do you *un*justify in pico? Every time I hit CTRL-J, and hope for a particular justification, my paragraph "over-justifies" and I have to go back and manually edit it, a highly annoying venture. I trust that someone will respond soon.,.. Frustrated, MvW From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:38:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA19545 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA25500 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:34:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA25496 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:34:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLfmh-00038aC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 17:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) Subject: BIG TIME Folder file problems Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:04:54 GMT Message-ID: <556cfk$202@news1.panix.com> Hello all: Over the past couple of days, I have lost all of the information in my INBOX and saved-messages files. They've literally gone from having, respectfully, 5 and 21 messages in each, to going to 0 bytes. And the really freaky thing is that I didn't do anything. Particularly in the latter case, I'm perplexed. Since, when the file was revised to 0 bytes I was neither running an FTP (which would allow me to replace the file), nor was I in Unix mode, I'd have had to have deleted all 21 messages manually. This I *know* I did not do. My ISP claims ignorance. They claim they didn't delete my messages (I have no reason to doubt them on this), and they also claim that they've never seen a "bug" of this kind in Pine. So has anyone ever seen this kind of bug in Pine? Particularly Pine 3.94? Particularly Panix users? Please reply to me at aem0608@is2.nyu.edu E-mail is preferred, but public responses OK too. Thanks, Andrew Mathis ================================================================= Shining a flashlight on the ugly underside of the 'net: http://www.webmagazine.com/Features/Hate/splash.html What's new with Frente? http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous: http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608 "Panu derech Hashem" --Yeshayahu 40:3 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:52:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA23467 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA03687 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:49:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA03683 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:49:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLg1b-00038aC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 17:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Hutchinson Subject: Reply to all recipients bug. Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 01:50:46 -0500 Message-ID: <32799DC5.752DEC28@pfc.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pine 3.95 seems to have a logical error during reply if I say yes to reply to all recipients, I get (for example) the following error in the composer screen. Cc : HUTCH@CMOD2.PFC.MIT.EDUhutch, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR., hutch@VENUS.PFC.MIT.EDUHUTCH The header of the message I am replying to is Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:30:43 +0100 From: Jennifer Crockett To: Ian Hutchinson Subject: Re: Technician projections. Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: HUTCH@CMOD2.PFC.MIT.EDU Resent-From: hutch@PFC.MIT.EDU Resent-To: hutch@VENUS.PFC.MIT.EDU Resent-To: HUTCH@CMOD2.PFC.MIT.EDU The different addresses arise because of forwarding of my mail from remote machines. This happens with all messages, but there is no error if I say no to reply to all recipients. Does anyone know how to fix this problem? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:02:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA20188 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA28605 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:58:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA28601 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:58:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLiyb-00038ZC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 20:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nander2566@aol.com Subject: Array Trade Service & Pine Date: 29 Oct 1996 23:50:26 GMT Message-ID: <19961029235000.SAA21484@ladder01.news.aol.com> Would like to talk to users of Pine on Trade Service Array AIX Systems Would like to know what you think of the product. How do you use it? Is it easy to use Thank you Norm Anderson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:30:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA25820 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA06913 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:27:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA06908 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:27:15 -0800 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 7 NOV 96 21:27:06 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:27:05 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Can Anyone Read This? Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you're reading this, please send a reply (no text required) just so I can verify that my messages are getting through. Thanks a bunch! ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:56:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA19249 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA08237 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:53:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA08233 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:53:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLkn8-00038ZC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 22:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Seth Rogovoy Subject: Re: filtering multiple mailing lists into separate folders??? Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:01:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <327E2224.399B7F7@webdev.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Nov 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Stefan Magdalinski wrote: > > -> Is there a way I can get pine to automatically file stuff into different > -> folders depending on the Resent-From line in the header or some other > -> criteria, so that I can separate out stuff from the different mailing > -> lists I subscribe to? > -> > -> > This is not Pine's task. Use procmail or elm to filter mail into separate > folders. Yeah, I've heard and tried that before, but you need to be somewhat of a programmer to figure those out. It may not be Pine's task now, but it sure would be helpful if it were made Pine's task at some point. --Seth Rogovoy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:54:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA27141 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA01168 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:49:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA01164 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:49:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLleV-00038aC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 23:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dedek@lexis-nexis.com (Mike Dedek) Subject: Re: 3.95 slower? Date: 6 Nov 1996 22:20:54 GMT Message-ID: <55r306$h29@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> References: In article , Seth Rogovoy writes: |> up until last week, i was using Pine 3.91 or 3.92 (sorry, I don't remember |> exactly which one). |> |> last week, my ISP installed 3.95. Is it just my imagination, or is |> everythign a lot slower now? You were probably using 3.91 before. Yes, everything is slower. There is a script, sendit.sh, which is included in the installation package. You can specify in .pinerc option sendmail-path=. We've found some improvement with this, but still some serious slowdowns with a particular type of mail (1Mb postscript files with very short lines). You could try different sendmail options in that same place, or write your own program that might work better. I hope this is helpful! -Mike Dedek Development Services/Tools Lexis-Nexis, a division of Reed-Elsevier PLC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:02:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA27335 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA09092 for pine-info-out; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:58:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA09087 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:58:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLllV-00038aC; Thu, 7 Nov 96 23:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de (Roland Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: PGP with Pine ? Date: 7 Nov 1996 21:50:22 +0100 Message-ID: <55ti2e$evf@spinnaker.rhein.de> References: Cedric Maion wrote: > I was wondering if Pine could easily be used with PGP. That would be > a great and useful feature ! On http://www.rhein.de/~roland/pgppine/ you will find some filter scripts to integrate PGP into pine. Have fun with them :-) Ciao Roland -- * Internet: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de * Fido: 2:2450/42 * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:22:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA27094 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA01554 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:19:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA01547 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:18:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLm6J-00038ZC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 00:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Format of .newsrc? Date: 7 Nov 1996 21:43:39 GMT Message-ID: <55tl6b$840@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Diethard Ohrt wrote: >I had a .newsrc file produced by "tin". The lines were like > >siemens.graz.test: 1-4 > >Pine refused to read any News, it just complained: No messages (or alike). >It only worked when I removed the numbers in each line, but now tin marks >all news as unread. Is this a desired behaviour of Pine? Well, Pine's idea of deleted articles (in newsgroups) is the same as tin and others' idea of read ones. Therefore, if you have already read all articles using tin, you will not see any articles from within pine. To see already read articles in pine, press & for unexclude. Similarly, if you want tin to know what articles you have read with pine, you should use "D" to go to the next article when reading news in pine. The article will not become invisible until you leave the newsgroup or use eXclude explicitely. If this still does not solve your problem, you might also check that pine and tin are using the same news server, as otherwise their idea of which articles the read article numbers in .newsrc refer to would be different. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:37:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA16212 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA01705 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:32:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dub-img-3.compuserve.com (dub-img-3.compuserve.com [149.174.206.133]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA01701 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:32:33 -0800 Received: by dub-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id UAA04819; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:57:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:56:37 -0500 From: the LiMiTeR Subject: STUFF To: sam lool , "pine-info@cac.washington.edu pine-info@cac.washington.edu" , "victron@easynet.co.uk victron@easynet.co.uk" , matt curto Message-ID: <199611072057_MC1-BC5-AD03@compuserve.com> hi whats up? NUTHIN HERE.....ITS CHRIS IF YA DIDN'T KNOW-----I CAN'T GET ON LATER SO ILL LOOK 4 YA TOMMOROW----THAT RITE---I CAN'T SPELL----O WELL SEE YA LATER ----CHRIS P.S MY OTHER E MAIL IS BROKE OR SUMTHIN ---SO USE THIS ONE the_LiMiTeR@wow.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:35:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA25066 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:35:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA03119 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:32:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cnct.com (cnct.com [165.254.118.51]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA03115 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:32:38 -0800 Received: (from quick@localhost) by cnct.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA22822; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:44:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:44:59 -0500 (EST) From: Fred Quick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Signature configuration Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, When "signature is enabled" in the configuration menu, your prewritten message is appended to the the bottom when composing a message.This is a problem some times when subscribing to lists. The server reads all of that extra text and rejects the subscription. My question is: Can the signature b toggled on or off without going into the configuration menu? Thanks in advance. Fred (signature disabled) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:24:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA30061 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA13375 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:20:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA13370 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:20:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLqmA-00038ZC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 05:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simler@mango.human.cornell.edu (Ken Simler) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and sudo Date: Mon, 04 Nov 96 14:45:36 GMT Message-ID: <55kvig$fro_002@human.cornell.edu> References: <55d3jk$cbg_007@human.cornell.edu> <55e03o$fvk@gaffa.voicenet.com> In article <55e03o$fvk@gaffa.voicenet.com>, billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) wrote: >In article <55d3jk$cbg_007@human.cornell.edu> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine, >Ken Simler wrote: > >>I am the de facto sysadm for a shared workstation running AIX, which >>includes checking root's mail on a regular basis, such as the output from >>cron jobs run by root. > >This has nuffin' to do with Pine but answers the question.... > >A better solution would be to edit /etc/aliases to include the line: > >root: your_user_id > >and then run the 'newaliases' command. > >Then, all mail that's normally delivered to root will be delivered to your >non-root userid. Thanks Bill, but I already know about the aliases file. I have reasons, good ones I think, for not wanting to forward all of root's mail to my mailbox. For example, if I can't make it to the office or to a telnet connection, I want to be able to call in and ask someone else to check root's mailbox to see if there were any errors in the nightly backup, which get reported to root via email. A person with limited root privileges (as configured under sudo), would be able to do this. With your solution I would have to give the person my password so they could go into my mailbox to get the message, which I would rather not do. Thanks for the response, but I'd still welcome a better one. -Ken -- Kenneth Simler Research Associate, Cornell Food & Nutrition Policy Program Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 USA simler@mango.human.cornell.edu http://mango.human.cornell.edu/kens/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:47:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA31081 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA06526 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:39:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA06522 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:39:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLs2U-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 06:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "S. Ebo" Subject: Can I see jpegs in Pine? Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:24:41 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Some newsgroups I lurk in occasionally have "jpegs" posted. I assume they are graphics of some kind (I'm new to the world of technology). Is there any way I can view and or download to a disk these images? Obviously I'd need to view them before downloading them, to see what they are. If I can't see them in Pine, is there a way to see them through Netscape? I will appreciate assistance. And please, explain it simply and clearly--I'm pretty dumb with computers. Steve From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 07:39:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA31828 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 07:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA15313 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 07:29:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sahara.llv.com (llv.chicago.agis.net [205.137.58.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA15309 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 07:29:27 -0800 Received: from ewilson (ppp38.llv.com [205.254.164.138]) by sahara.llv.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA13707 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 07:29:15 -0800 Message-Id: <199611081529.HAA13707@sahara.llv.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "THE CONSULTANT GROUP, INC" Organization: The Consultant Group, Inc. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:14:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA32740 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA15896 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:05:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA15892 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:05:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLtMk-00038TC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 08:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Greg Derylo Subject: Re: Problem compiling on HP-UX Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:09:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Greg Derylo wrote: > > I just downloaded PINE 3.95 and tried a build on an HP 735 running > HP-UX 9.01 and got the following error in the section entitled > "Making Pine": > > cc: Internal Error 5705. > *** Error code 1 > > Any recomendations would be greatly appreciated. To further narrow the problem, the error occurred when compiling "send.c". I would appreciate suggestions. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________ Gregory E. Derylo "That government is best which gderylo@nyx.net governs least." www.nyx.net/~gderylo/ - Thomas Jefferson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:28:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA02394 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA09901 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:21:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA09897 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:21:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLuZc-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 09:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbgeo002@huey.csun.edu (jeffrey trust) Subject: Re: Signature configuration Date: 8 Nov 1996 16:53:53 GMT Message-ID: <55voj1$b4e@csun1.csun.edu> References: Fred Quick (quick@cnct.com) wrote: > My question is: > Can the signature b toggled on or off without going into the > configuration menu? Use ^K to delete it. It should only be a few lines, so not much of a problem. (You can also mark it (ctrl-shft-^) and use ^K to delete it.) Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Trust (jtrust@csun.edu). Student, Dept. of Geological Sciences, California State University, Northridge (for which I don't speak). "The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves." -John Muir http://www.csun.edu/~hbgeo002/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:44:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA04787 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA20179 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:36:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA20175 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:36:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLviY-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 10:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Couper Subject: Re: Can I see jpegs in Pine? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:43:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Reginald N Patton posted to comp.mail.pine: > On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, S. Ebo wrote: > > > Some newsgroups I lurk in occasionally have "jpegs" posted. I assume > > they are graphics of some kind (I'm new to the world of technology). > > Is there any way I can view and or download to a disk these images? > ... However if the files are not > mime-encoded, but instead, are uuencoded. You will need to save the > message to a file. While reading a uuencoded jpg, why not | !pipe uudecode !send the post to be processed by uudecode program This produces somefile.jpg in the default directory. sz somefile.jpg !use zmodem to download the graphic file sz -u somefile.jpg !use zmodem & delete file from account on successful dl You'll still need a graphics viewer which you can easily find with a websearch. HTH, Barry duck@berkshire.net Barry Couper, Montague, MA USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:21:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA23246 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:21:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA15051 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:16:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gemsgw.med.ge.com (gemsgw.med.ge.com [192.88.230.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA15047 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:16:16 -0800 Received: from gemed.med.ge.com (gemed.med.ge.com [3.7.12.4]) by gemsgw.med.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA07270 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:13:58 -0600 Received: from ct.med.ge.com (ct [3.70.56.18]) by gemed.med.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA00685; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:16:15 -0600 Received: from bigbird.ct.med.ge.com by ct.med.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA25715; Fri, 8 Nov 96 14:16:12 CST From: rusch@ct.med.ge.com (William Rusch 5-5793) Received: by bigbird.ct.med.ge.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA01661; Fri, 8 Nov 96 14:16:13 CST Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 14:16:13 CST Message-Id: <9611082016.AA01661@bigbird.ct.med.ge.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.95 + SunOS 4.1.3 start problem Hi! When trying to run pine 3.95, the following error message always occurs. Can't access terminal or input is not a terminal. Redirection of standard input is not allowed. For example "pine < file" doesn't work. Researching the pine archives and docs yield no solution. Therefore, I'd appreciate any comments from the pine community as to where I can look for a resolution. Our environment is SunOS 4.1.3 with VT-100 terminals and Sun workstations. Pine appears to compile cleanly with gcc. Thanks in advance - William Rusch Email: ruschw@med.ge.com System Administration Fax: 414.785.5695 Mail Call NB920 Voice: 414.785.5793 General Electric Medical Systems Box 414 Milwaukee, WI 53201-0414 USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:31:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA10426 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:31:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA26537 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:25:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA26533 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:25:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLzJs-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 14:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Stewart Subject: Re: Q: Pine and HyperTerminal PE Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:05:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Thomas Jess Bowers wrote: >I use HyperTerminal to connect to Pine (Unix) at my school. I >just installed the upgrade to HyperTerm and everything is fine >until I bring up Pine. When I first used Pine (3.91) several >months ago I had black letters on a white screen. After using >pine two or three times it switched to White letters on Black >(but only in Pine). The first time I dialed up under the new >HyperTerm everything was normal until I got into Pine. Now I have >gray on black. About a month ago my school switched to Pine 3.95 >but this didn't effect anything. I always and still have black on >white until pine comes up -- then everything changes. I couldn't >find an explanation in the help screens and tried my help desk at >school. They had no explanation. Can anyone shed some light? I >realize this could be due to HyperTerm but the prior changes >leave me confused. I have a guess at what's causing the colors problem. It may be that the UNIX system you're dialing into uses a different terminal emulation. Try changing your HyperTerminal profile that calls to your school to use a different terminal emulation. ----------------------------- Bill Stewart wstewart@unm.edu http://www.unm.edu/~wstewart/ ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:13:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA11477 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA19465 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:06:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA19461 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:06:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vLzyf-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 15:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbolting@nemonet.com (Stephen Boltinghouse) Subject: Just try this, it will work Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:44:01 GMT Message-ID: <1004.47993391706@news.nemonet.com> Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months. think about it. You see those 'Make.Money.Fast' posts more and more. That's ... because it WORKS ! So I thought, all those new users might make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago. Besides, whats $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted. Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from AOL, Netcom, etc. they will join in and make it work for you. Well, two weeks later, I began recieving bucks in the mail! I couldn't believe it! Not just a little, I mean big bucks! At first only a few hundred dollars, then a week later, a couple of thousand, then BOOM. By the end of the fourth week, I had recieved nearly $47,000.00. It came from all over the world. And every bit of it perfectly legal and on the up and up. I've been able to pay off all my bills and still had enough left over for a nice vacation for me and my family. Not only does it work for me, it works for other folks as well. Markus Valppu says he made $57,883 in four weeks. Dave Manning claims he made $53,664 in the same amount of time. Dan Shepstone says it was only $17,000 for him. Do I know these folks? No, but when I read how they say they did it, it made sense to me. Enough sense that I'm taking a similar chance with $5 of my own bucks. Not a big chance, I admit--but one with incredible potential, because $5 is all anyone ever invests in this system. Period. That's all Markus, Dave, or Dan invested, yet their $5 netted them tens of thousands of dollars each, in a safe, legal, completely legitimate way. Here's how it works in 3 easy steps: STEP 1. Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate pieces of paper along with the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (In this way, you're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're paying for a legitimate service.) Fold a $1 bill, money order, or bank note inside each paper, and mail them by standard U. S. Mail to the following five addresses: 1- Fern Suarez Mallorca 112 Hato Rey, P.R., USA, 00917 2- Philippe 2104 De Mexico Chomedey, Laval Quebec, Canada H7M 3C6 3- Natalie Jansen Lancveldlaan 18 5671 CN Nuenen Holland 4- Chad Collier 2785 Cold Springs Rd. #49 Placerville, CA 95667 5- Steve Boltinghouse 1009 Bird St. Hannibal, MO 63401 STEP 2. Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other names up.This way, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name in as the fifth one on the list. STEP 3. Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at least 19000 newsgroups at any given moment in time. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can. Remember the more groups you post to, the more people will see your article and send you cash! STEP 4. You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the Internet is new and huge. There is no way you can lose. Now here is how and why this system works: Out of every block of 250 posts I made, I got back 5 responses. Yes, thats right,only 5. You make $5.00 in cash, not checks or money orders, but real cash with your name at #5. Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 250 additional postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings. On average then, 50 people will send you $1.00 with your name at #4,....$50.00 in your pocket! Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people= $500. They make 250 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000 postings=5000 returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash! Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at #1 and you get a return of $60,000 before your name drops off the list.And that's only if everyone down the line makes only 250 postings each! Your total income for this one cycle is $55,000. From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list, you take the latest posting you can find and start all over again. The end result depends on you. You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of. The more postings you make, the more cash ends up in your mailbox. It's too easy and too cheap to pass up!!! So thats it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it works. There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all day, all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net every day. You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper. So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it. Print this out right now so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real, then don't do it. But please print this article and pass it along to someone you know who really needs the bucks, and see what happens. REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH! *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10,000! TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!! :o) !!!!!!!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:55:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA11520 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:55:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA28641 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:51:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA28637 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:51:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM0dF-00038TC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 15:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven C King Subject: Re: just a thought.... Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:34:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Nov 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > today was one of those nice days as the M$-crap installed in the > informatics service of our university showed again and repeadetly its > professionalism: it crashed. > > Unfortunately it is the MTA for our offcial addresses > (Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr unlike bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr which > is my SMTP address). This way, as often (the M$-MTA is VERY professional :) > mail send to poor M$-mail-(yes they exist)-users went lost, and i > have now to resend it.... > > > and there lacks a functionality of pine, or i haven't found it yet: > in the saved folder there seems to be no 'resend' option, so at the moment > i am forwarding all the lots, making cut&paste with the mouse for the > addresses.... > > Does this function exist? if not will it be implemented? is there an easier > way to resend all the stuff? Check out PINE's online help for enable-bounce-cmd under feature-list in Setup/Config. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:35:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA15158 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:35:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA24338 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:31:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA24334 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:31:53 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA17919; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:31:50 -0800 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:31:49 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Speed Racer cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A Wish for the Folks at PINE In-Reply-To: <55out0$nmg@netnews.upenn.edu> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Speed, I'd really like to understand your comment... This capability has been in all versions of Pine for *years*... -teg On 6 Nov 1996, Speed Racer wrote: > DearOldDad (dad@epix.net) wrote: > : Mike Harris (mharris@nj5.injersey.com) wrote: > : : I would like to ask the PINE development team if they could > : : install control keys that would let one go to the beginning > : : and to the end of a message either within the composer or > : : within reading a message. This would be especially useful > : : when blocking text, as currently if one wants to highlight > : : text from one point to the end of a document, they have to > : : hit Next Pg as many times as it takes -- which can be a > : : pain in the tuchus. > > : If you look at the options available at the bottom of the screen you will > : see that (while reading): > : "w" followed by "^V" (control + v) takes you to the bottom > : "w" followed by "^Y" (control + y) takes you to the top > : and while composing (in pico) use ^W rather than w then ^v or ^y > > For some reason that doesn't exist in any of the versions we've had here > and I'm using 3.95. > > R. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:04:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA14075 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA24716 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:01:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA24712 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:01:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM4a9-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 19:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kim S Subject: Re: Reply to myself Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:30:24 +1100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi Kong..... You sound very complicated on the net. I am just wondering if you are Korean by birth. Pse reply. SUE On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Sing Yeong Kong wrote: > I am a user of unix pine. Every time I try to reply to all when my > address appears under the cc: portion, I end up replying to myself as > well. > > Is there any way to change this so that I will only reply to everyone > else without having to delete off my own address each time? > > Also, whenever I decide to break up a paragraph in to two by pressing the > return key, I find > myself having to realign the remaining parts of the > paragraph or it will turn out some thing like this. Is there a way so that > I do not have to manually realign the rest of the mail line by line? > > (By the way, in this case, the return key was pressed after the word > "find" and before the word "myself") > > Many Thanks! > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:14:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA15596 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA02896 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:11:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA02892 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:11:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM4jk-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 20:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) Subject: Configuration dilemma Date: 8 Nov 1996 13:48:17 GMT Message-ID: <55vdn1$4lf@srv13s4.cas.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I have read the Pine readme, the FAQ, and the technical doc. However, I haven't been able to locate a description of where to specify during configuration that I won't be installing things into /usr/local, so that all the appropriate programs look in the right place for the help files, etc. From looking at what is generated during the build execution, it appears that via some flag notation I should be able to do this (boy, I sure wish configure was being used - I know how to use that - and I don't even need to know 3 character machine/os names...) but I am not sure what the specific format is. Could someone send me an example? -- :s Larry W. Virden INET: lvirden@cas.org :s <*> O- "We are all Kosh." :s Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should :s be construed as representing my employer's opinions. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:25:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA09282 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:25:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA25008 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:22:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA25003 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:22:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM4rZ-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 20:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Duc Le Subject: Pine3.95 pre-compiled file needed! Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 11:00:35 -0800 Message-ID: <328231D3.7BAE@webvenue.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I want to use pine3.95 but do not have the c compiler on my server. I've tried to download gcc installable-package from SCO skunware but the installation has failed. Would someone please show me where I can obtain a pre-compiled binary file of Pine3.95 for SCO V? Thanks in advance, Duc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:11:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA14743 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA03659 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:07:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA03655 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:07:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM5aR-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 21:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: setup printer Date: 8 Nov 1996 20:48:27 GMT Message-ID: <5606ar$a6a@due.unit.no> References: <199611070408.UAA09102@victor1.vv.cta.com> [Posted and mailed] In article <199611070408.UAA09102@victor1.vv.cta.com>, Bob Kelley and Family wrote: >Hello Pine-Info, >I've got 3.91 (UNIX), and cannot get a printer option under setup. From the >main menu, "S" takes me to setup, where Newpassword, Config and Update >become available, but no Printer. If I press "P", I get an error message >indicating that no "P" has been defined for this screen. >I'd appreciate any help you can offer. Alas, that feature was introduced in Pine 3.92 at the earliest. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:19:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA02176 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:19:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA25657 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:16:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA25653 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:16:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM5ka-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 21:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tlange@netcom.com (Tom Lange) Subject: Re: problm with Pine Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:16:20 GMT In article lacroixs@MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA (Lacroix Sylvie) writes: >Please how can I import a File from Word to this word processing software >and than transmit the file trough E-Mail >Thanks > >sylvie lacroix > There are a couple of things that you can do, depending on what the recipient of the file will do with it on the other end. If you just want the recipient to view the text of the Word document, save the Word document as ASCII text, upload it to your Unix host, then use control-r to insert the text into your e-mail message. If you want the formatting to remain intact and the user will be using Word on the other end to view/manipulate the document in some way, then upload the Word document as is to your Unix host and send it across as an attached file. CHEERS! Tom From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:23:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA16272 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA03797 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:19:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ibm320h.phy.pku.edu.cn (ibm320h.phy.pku.edu.cn [162.105.159.189]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA03793 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:19:06 -0800 Received: by ibm320h.phy.pku.edu.cn (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21654; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 13:21:24 +0800 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 13:21:23 +0800 (TAIST) From: zhangch To: pine-info Subject: Help!!! (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1570136131-2002600785-847443075=:27355" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1570136131-2002600785-847443075=:27355 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Dear friend, I am now facing some problems as stated in the following forwarded message with my email-sending. I sincerely hope you can do me a favor. Thank you very much. Best regards. Yours, Nancy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:51:15 +0800 (TAIST) From: zhangch To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID XI7QJ): Dear Sir/Madam, First of all, I would like to thank you for the kind help you have always given to me. There is one thing I want to make clear that why it occasionally happens that the same email was sent for several times, even after a few days of the first sending, for I do not think it is unnecessary. I look forward to your answer. Best wishes! Nancy ---1570136131-2002600785-847443075=:27355 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = lanyang, full = home = /u/lanyang home_dir= /u/lanyang hostname= ibm320h.phy.pku.edu.cn localdom= phy.pku.edu.cn userdom= NULL maildom= ibm320h.phy.pku.edu.cn cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= inbox msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt220, ttyname=/dev/tty3, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : zhangch user-id : lanyang inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : enable-suspend : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : select-without-confirm : auto-move-read-msgs : auto-open-next-unread : expunge-without-confirm : save-will-advance saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : nickname use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.11 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/u/lanyang/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : zhangch feature-list : compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : enable-suspend : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : select-without-confirm : auto-move-read-msgs : auto-open-next-unread : expunge-without-confirm : save-will-advance addrbook-sort-rule : nickname printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.11 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---1570136131-2002600785-847443075=:27355-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:30:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA16896 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA26459 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA26453 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM6pV-00038UC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Jess Bowers Subject: Re: Q: Pine and HyperTerminal PE Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:06:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Thanks Bill! The terminal emulation mode was the answer to my second post (screen was black on white). I tried getting characters to return to white on a black background and got black on white. Black on white appears under VT100. Previously I had white on black background under ANSI. This changed to gray on black under ANSI using the new HyperTerminal. Since I changed back to ANSI it is still gray on black. I prefer the black background to reduce eye strain but find gray characters don't produce enough contrast. I'll just live with it until something else happens. Thanks Again, T. Jess Bowers GSU College of Law tjbowers@gsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:31:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA16869 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA26451 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA26446 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM6ph-00038WC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@linux.scott.net (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: How can I set the username? Date: 9 Nov 1996 04:21:21 GMT Message-ID: References: <55vh4r$3cb-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> On 8 Nov 1996 15:46:51 +0100, Joachim Schaaf wrote: >Hello, > >I send and receive my email "offline" on my Linux PC (with sendmail and >POP). The problem I have: the account names on my PC and at the provider >are not the same. What I need is to set the user name (like the user-domain >setting). >Can anyone help me? > Have you tried setting personal-name=yourpreferrednamehere in your .pinerc? -- Scott Buntin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:31:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA26975 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA04551 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA04547 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM6pB-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Untitled Date: 8 Nov 1996 20:39:11 GMT Message-ID: <5605pf$9rb@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , PSYCHOPHILOSOPHY wrote: > >Did anyone notice that the functions ^T and ^T Check> don't work? Is it just my account or is there a problem in this >edition of pine? It works fine here, so it is not a general problem with pine. However, since it is the same character (^T) which doesn't work in several situations, I suspect something is wrong with your terminal program. I had a similar problem once with a telnet program which insisted on using ^O as the flushoutput character, so I couldn't postpone. (I finally found out how to make a .telnetrc file which solved the problem.) Check the settings of your terminal program to see what characters it uses for special purposes. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:31:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA16772 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA04557 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA04553 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM6pK-00038TC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: New feature request Date: 8 Nov 1996 20:46:19 GMT Message-ID: <56066r$a3k@due.unit.no> References: In article , Scott Buntin wrote: >> >I had the same problem. So I *disabled* "enable-mouse-in-xterm." I can't use >the pick-a-message, but I can cut and paste. I guess it's one or the other, >not both. Not so fast. For programs which run in xterms and take over the mouse buttons, it is usually the case (perhaps even unavoidable) that you can get the usual xterm cut-and-paste behavior by holding down the key while you press the mouse button. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:31:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA09321 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA04563 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA04559 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:26:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM6pw-00038XC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 22:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: MacIntosh, Pine and extended Characters? Date: 8 Nov 1996 21:01:35 GMT Message-ID: <56073f$alo@due.unit.no> References: <327f3535.2145590@news.nacamar.de> In article , Ted Y. Wilson wrote: >Did you ever get umlauts to work? Does anyone >know how to modify Pine setup/configuration to >send and receive umlauts? I changed the character-set >line to ISO-8859-1, but it didn't solve the problem. I believe that is all that is needed from within pine. However, you also need to set up your terminal such that it transmits the characters correctly. In my .bashrc I have the following: export LC_CTYPE=iso_8859_1 if tty -s; then stty cs8 -istrip -parenb >&0 fi In my .login for tcsh on another machine I have stty -istrip stty pass8 setenv LC_TYPE iso_8859_1 Which to use depends on your UNIX shell, and the exact syntax might differ between UNIX versions. The LC_TYPE is not necessary for pine but might be useful for other programs. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:05:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA17087 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA26879 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:01:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA26869 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:01:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vM7N6-00038BC; Fri, 8 Nov 96 22:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: New feature request Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:07:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Abhay Roy wrote: > Pine developers, > > Is there a plan to support the following in any forthcoming releases (3.95 > doesn't have any of these). > > 1. Mouse cut and paste to and from pine window. It already exists for x-windows. Read PINE's online help for enable-mouse-in-xterm. As for PC-PINE, I'm uncertain. > 2. Mail/News threading. You can do pseudo-threading by selecting OrderedSubj under sort-key in Setup/Config. Will PINE actually create threads like Tin in future versions? I don't know, but it wouldn't be a bad feature, especially for active Tin users since they are use to reading posts via threads. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:11:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA17206 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA05047 for pine-info-out; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:07:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (vtbit.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.247]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA05043 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:07:44 -0800 Received: from VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU by VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3698; Sat, 09 Nov 96 02:07:32 EST Received: from SAKACS00.KACST.EDU.SA (NJE origin MAILER@SAKACS00) by VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9504; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 02:07:32 -0500 Received: from SAUPM00.BITNET (NJE origin MAILBOX@SAUPM00) by SAKACS00.KACST.EDU.SA (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3661; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 10:06:03 +0000 Received: (from SAUPM00 for S <@SAUPM00.DPC.KFUPM.EDU.SA:s918160@dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa> via BSMTP) Received: (from SAUPM00 for MAILBOX@SAUPM00 via NJE) (UCLA/Mail V1.500 M-SMTP-3285-23); Sat, 09 Nov 96 09:32:28 SAT Received: from dpc.kfupm.edu.sa by SAUPM00.DPC.KFUPM.EDU.SA (IBM MVS SMTP V3R1) with TCP; Sat, 09 Nov 96 09:32:12 LCL Received: from dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa (dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa [196.15.32.8]) by dpc.kfupm.edu.sa (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA24642 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 06:27:19 GMT Received: (from s918160@localhost) by dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA30343; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:28:48 +0300 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:28:48 +0300 (SAUST) From: AL-HUSAIN BASSAM MAATOUG IBRAHIM To: pine-info%cac.washington.edu%SAKACS00.BITNET@VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU Subject: get some info. about the pest use of pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI I AM INTERSET TO BE A GOOD YSER OF PINE AND I JUST WANT A SPRIT OF LIGHT TO GUID ME IN THIS. PLESE IF U CAN HELP ME I WILL BE THANKFULL TO U.. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 02:06:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA22039 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 02:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA07302 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 02:01:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA07298 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 02:01:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMABU-00038BC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 01:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abhay Roy Subject: Re: New feature request Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:58:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Jago wrote: + > Is there a plan to support the following in any forthcoming releases (3.95 + > doesn't have any of these). + > + > 1. Mouse cut and paste to and from pine window. + + It already exists for x-windows. Read PINE's online help for + enable-mouse-in-xterm. As for PC-PINE, I'm uncertain. Hmm .. With my window manager (olvwm), when I enable this feature, I can select the message I want to read, with the mouse. If I double-click, It automatically displays me the message. BUT I can't mark a few lines from the message display and paste in another xterm. Are you able to do that ? How ? Online Release Notes talks about the feature. And it appears to be available only for X/Motif users ? (olvwm is OpenLook) Regards, -Roy- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:41:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA23238 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA05746 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:37:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA05742 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:37:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMDYq-00038BC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 05:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kyle VanderBeek Subject: Re: IMAP HOW? Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 14:04:33 -0500 Message-ID: <32838441.5081@calvin.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harry Eldridge wrote: > > HEllo all, > How do I find out how to configure IMAP for pine? It is difficult to figure out, there doesn't seem to be much info in the given documentation. The best place to look is in the heavily documented pinerc file. Anyhow, the key is the use of curly braces like {} in your pinerc to designate an IMAP host. Here are some lines from mine (pine 3.94 on Linux 2.0.20): inbox-path={mailhost.calvin.edu}INBOX .... {mailhost.calvin.edu}mail/[] -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Kyle VanderBeek E-mail: kvbeek@calvin.edu Calvin College Computer Services http://www.calvin.edu/~kvbeek/ Systems Engineer/Webmaster/Postmaster 616.957.6144 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 06:04:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA23640 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 06:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA09861 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 06:02:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA09857 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 06:02:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMDvC-00038BC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 05:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: 4 Nov 1996 11:57:42 -0700 Message-ID: <55leb6$rpn@lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <55i7h0$727@nerd.apk.net> In article <55i7h0$727@nerd.apk.net>, High Flight wrote: :Mike Harris (mharris@nj5.injersey.com) wrote: :: This girl's predicament, and many others, is *exactly* why I think :: PINE needs the ability for killfiles. : :I'd hate to post a "me too," so I'll add something. That seems to be the :only major user-friendly feature that's missing. Is it just not feasible :from an engineering perspective? The natural place for filtering is between the mail transport agent (e.g. sendmail, on most UNIX systems) and the mail user agent (pine). I suppose you could have pine look into the mailbox and simply not display, or actually delete, certain messages according to a killfile, but that wouldn't be of much help if someone was mailbombing you. Then you need something to keep the messages out of your mailbox altogether. A robust and full-featured mail filter is a nontrivial program; look at the procmail distribution for example. It would add a lot to the size and complexity of pine to bundle something on that scale into what is already a pretty big program. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 07:45:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA24307 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 07:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA07062 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 07:42:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA07058 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 07:42:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMFXR-00038BC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 07:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de (Joachim Schaaf) Subject: Re: How do you stop annoying, unsolicited, incoming mail? Date: 9 Nov 1996 14:42:11 +0100 Message-ID: <5621nj$uc-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> References: <560if8$noo@news-central.tiac.net> Hi, Gentleman wrote: > Hi All, > How can I stop annoying, unsolicited business opportunity > mail from reaching me? The following webpage collects hints about this: http://www.knet.flemingc.on.ca/~surly/junkmail.html > Today when I logged in there were 5 mail messages from some > jerks in my mail box. A few days ago I got a mail message > from some idiot whose subject line was "Learn how to attract > women using your tongue". ;-) Gruss, Joachim. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Joachim Schaaf @ home running Linux, what else? M$ sucks. e-mail: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de, Joachim.Schaaf@gmd.de http://www.dvz.fh-koeln.de/~bn500/index.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:56:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA12919 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA12397 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:52:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA12393 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:52:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMHXd-00038BC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 09:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Hugh A. Pritchard" Subject: Composing with "rich text" (e.g. bold)? Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:09:51 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'd like to know how to include "rich text" (for example, bolding) in my Pine-composed mail. I'm using Pine 3.93 under Unix (Solaris 2.5). Seems other people, when they (or their mail user agents) include HTML tags in the body of their mail (Some text), Pine recognizes this by means of the "Content-type: text/enriched" header, and displays the bolding. When I include bold tags in my mail, Pine doesn't want to include "text/enriched," but rather chooses "text/plain." -- Hugh Pritchard, Smoke N' Mirrors, 703/318-1440, Hugh@snm.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:56:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA26783 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:56:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA10686 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:53:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA10676 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:53:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMKLl-00038BC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 12:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: A Wish for the Folks at PINE Date: 9 Nov 1996 20:42:10 GMT Message-ID: <562qb2$jvs@news1.epix.net> References: <55out0$nmg@netnews.upenn.edu> Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Speed, : I'd really like to understand your comment... This capability has been in : all versions of Pine for *years*... : On 6 Nov 1996, Speed Racer wrote: : > For some reason that doesn't exist in any of the versions we've had here : > and I'm using 3.95. Terry; I thing he (and many other users) just overlook the "O" (o)ther command posibilities available. PINE and PICO show 8 or 10 commands available on the first screen and the 2 most important are (o)ther and (?) for help. Maybe one of the more usefull things you could do in future releases mayhaps be to somehow highlight those features and or remind users periodically that they are available. IMHO it would cut down about 80% of the traffic in comp.mail.pine ... You may wish for example to post a periodic reminder of this here. I know the FAQ is available, and archives are available of prior posts etc etc but your average user doesn't seem to either know that or know how to access them. Only a few thoughts ... Hope this helps ... BYE For all others; PINE has context sensitive help available, just press ? anywhere anytime in pine or ^g in pico (compose) ... That's it. I'm off my soapbox now. BYE. John From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:06:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA28254 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA13556 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:03:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA13552 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:03:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMOFD-00038BC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 16:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: IMAP folder specification question Date: 31 Oct 1996 20:10:10 GMT Message-ID: <55b132$8vs@due.unit.no> References: <1996Oct30.014246.21668@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov> [Posted and mailed] In article <1996Oct30.014246.21668@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov>, Logan Shaw wrote: >something like > > {username@remotehost}folder > >or maybe even > > {remotehost!username}folder This is a FAQ. The format is {remotehost/user=username}folder Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:51:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA29006 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA18705 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:49:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA18701 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:48:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMPtN-00038BC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 18:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Pine + News Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Dirk Allard wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible to delete news articles not only one by one but in groups > (defined by a range of numbers) or completely? Go into Setup/Config and put an X for enable-aggregate-command-set under feature list if it isn't enabled already. Then when you display the articles (as well as your mail messages), hit the ';' character. Then hit the 'N' key, which will allow you to specify ranges. Next, hit 'A' then 'D'. That will delete the messages you selected. If you want to get rid of ALL the articles or mail messages in one shot, index the messages on your screen, then tap in this key sequence (it doesn't matter where you are in the index): ;AAD (the two As are correct) Looks weird, but that's how you do it. HTH! -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:22:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA31023 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA17811 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:19:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA17806 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:19:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMU6T-00038BC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 23:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Derrick Green Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:45:23 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Dowell Sean wrote: > My girlfriend has e-mail with university the same as i do and she writes > to some of her friends at home. An exboyfriend of hers has her address > and often writes letters to her, we changed her address but she always has > to write her friends and because of mutual friends her boyfriend always > will get her address. Is there any way to block out his E-mail or his name > from any address or something. this is really annoying and I have bounced > his mail back but he is persistant. please if anybody knows anything that > could help or anywhere i could ask please leave me a message here Yes, get procmail filtering (if you're on UNIX) and write the following recipe. :0 * ^From:.(email1@address.com|email2@address.com) /dev/null That will throw it into the trash. You can put as many email addresses these as you like. You can also write scripts that will bounce it right back to him with a message. The bottom line is that you have to have procmail filtering or some other mail filtering program. --- Derrick Green eusdegr@wser.ericsson.se From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:02:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA31543 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA21972 for pine-info-out; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:59:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA21968 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:59:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMUkF-00038UC; Sat, 9 Nov 96 23:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Victor B. Wagner" Subject: PC-Pine 3.95 cannot display some extended characters. How to patch? Date: 10 Nov 1996 10:03:02 +0300 Message-ID: <199611100703.KAA19478@softweyr.agropc.msk.su> Has anyone solved such problem: when I try to read in PC-Pine letter which contains characters with codes 128-159 or 255 (decimal), they are not displayed properly. This problem occurs after ISO_TO_CP translation in both DOS and Windows versions of Pine. It makes PC-Pine almost unusable for Russians, becouse in wide-spread cyrillic encodings this symbols are frequently used. I suppose that it has something to do with output library, but have no time to search for this place and patch it. May be somebody have already solved this and can point me to source routine or send a patch. Another simular question: Is there any way (perhaps compile-time) to disable QUOTED-PRINTABLE and Base64 encoding for cyrillic (i.e. texts, consisting of extended characters only). Lot of my correspondents use mail programs that are unable to handle MIME and I'm tired of switching between pine and mailx on per recipient basis. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:36:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA01386 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA25553 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:32:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.clark.net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA25549 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:32:12 -0800 Received: from explorer2.clark.net (sam@explorer2.clark.net [168.143.0.5]) by mail.clark.net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA01950 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 08:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sam@localhost) by explorer2.clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA22685 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 08:32:10 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: explorer2.clark.net: sam owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 08:32:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Samuel E. Jones" X-Sender: sam@explorer2 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Crash Dump -Why? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, Often I waited for awhile and got the core file there. Do you know the common crash dump file incident? let me to know why. Sam ---------------Samuel E. Jones -------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:44:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA02694 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA24396 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:40:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA24392 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:40:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMdrX-00038BC; Sun, 10 Nov 96 09:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tjrc1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Tim Cutts) Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: 7 Nov 1996 10:46:37 GMT Message-ID: <55semd$46t@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <55i7h0$727@nerd.apk.net> <55leb6$rpn@lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU> In article <55leb6$rpn@lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU>, Jim Davis wrote: >The natural place for filtering is between the mail transport agent >(e.g. sendmail, on most UNIX systems) and the mail user agent (pine). >I suppose you could have pine look into the mailbox and simply not >display, or actually delete, certain messages according to a killfile, >but that wouldn't be of much help if someone was mailbombing you. >Then you need something to keep the messages out of your mailbox >altogether. My site uses a Mail Transport Agent called exim, which includes fairly sophisticated mail filtering. This is not useful for the original poster in this thread, but it is very good at cutting down on general spam. Exim is configurable to refuse SMTP connections from certain sites completely, or it can reject mail from certain users/sites at the RCPT level (ie it claims the recipient user doesn't exist, even if they do). Lastly it can silently trash mail from given sites. Tim. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 10:24:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA17854 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 10:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA28512 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 10:21:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from postbox.dai.ed.ac.uk (postbox.dai.ed.ac.uk [192.41.104.196]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA28505 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 10:21:12 -0800 Received: from aberdeen.dai.ed.ac.uk (aboyne.dai.ed.ac.uk [192.41.107.77]) by postbox.dai.ed.ac.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA02847 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 18:21:05 GMT Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 18:21:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Sacha Horowitz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Trouble: empty inbox Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I'm a student using PINE in a UNIX environment. Sometimes - most of the time - when I open PINE recently, I have no messages in my inbox, whereas other mail readers do show messages. It even happens that messages that were in my inbox during one session are not there anymore when I use PINE another time. The local staff cannot help me because they're not using PINE, even though is on the network. Can anyone help me? Sacha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:04:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA04020 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA29768 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:02:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from canes.gsw.peachnet.edu (canes.GSW.PeachNet.EDU [168.18.217.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA29764 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:02:13 -0800 Received: (from jigang@localhost) by canes.gsw.peachnet.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA22853; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:01:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:01:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Dr. Jigang Liu" To: Sacha Horowitz cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trouble: empty inbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Change your password, then send a mail to yourself and see if the mbox is still empty. Good luck! On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Sacha Horowitz wrote: > > Hi. > I'm a student using PINE in a UNIX environment. > Sometimes - most of the time - when I open PINE recently, I have no > messages in my inbox, whereas other mail readers do show messages. It even > happens that messages that were in my inbox during one session are not > there anymore when I use PINE another time. > > The local staff cannot help me because they're not using PINE, even though > is on the network. > > Can anyone help me? > > Sacha > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:20:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA04194 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA29966 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:17:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from students.aurora.edu (students.aurora.edu [192.203.224.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA29962 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:17:11 -0800 Received: from localhost by students.aurora.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Aug96-0736AM) id AA03806; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:16:39 -0600 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:16:39 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:22:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA03970 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA26316 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:20:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu (admin.aurora.edu [192.203.224.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA26312 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:20:18 -0800 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA19409; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:20:19 -0600 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:20:19 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info Steve Lowe unsubscribe pine-info Steve Lowe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:51:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA04448 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA00452 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:46:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA00448 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:46:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMggq-00038BC; Sun, 10 Nov 96 12:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Harrington Subject: POP3, and Netscape and Pine 3.91 crash Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 11:54:48 -0800 Message-ID: <32823E88.37C6@lvccld.lib.nv.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7AB014C315E2" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7AB014C315E2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help please. We are attempting to move our mail off our overloaded UNIX box to our NT server. We are running Netscape Mailserver 2.0 on an NT 3.51 Server. Our unix box is a Sequent S81 running Dynix/PTX 2.1.6. Here is the problem. Not all of our users have access to netscape's mail client. Some will need to use Pine 3.91 to view the mail in their inbox. Some time they will also use Netscape 3.0 Mail Client to view the mail. If I send a message and view it using Pine 3.91 to our POP3 Server... I works! If I send a message as view it using Netscape 3.0 mail client WITH netscape set to DOWNLOAD the mail from to server to the local hard drive... It WORKS!! If I receive mail and view it using Netscape Mail Client set NOT do download the mail, and then I go in to Pine 3.91, I can log into the POP3 server. It tells me that I have the correct number of message waiting. When I press 'I' to go into my inbox I get this... Bug in Pine detected: "Out of free storage". Exiting pine. Attempting to save debug file to /home/tomh/.pine-crash IOT trap What gives? Any Ideas? We have enough free space on the drive. I just don't know whats going on. I have attached the .pine-crash file for those interested. I will be eternaly grateful for help with this. Thank You in advance... Thomas Harrington tomh@lvccld.lib.nv.us --------------7AB014C315E2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=".pine-crash" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename=".pine-crash" Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Thu Nov 7 11:45:39 1996 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "/lvccld/auto/home/tomh/.pinerc" Read 5574 characters: reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory ======= Current_val options set ======= smtp-server : post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us nntp-server : post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us inbox-path : {post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us/pop3} folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : NewsGroups *{post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.11 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/lvccld/auto/home/tomh/.pinerc) ======= smtp-server : post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us nntp-server : post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us inbox-path : {post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us/pop3} news-collections : NewsGroups *{post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us/nntp}[] last-time-prune-ques : 96.11 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: tomh Fullname: "Tom Harrington Automation" User domain name being used "" Local Domain name being used "lvccld.lib.nv.us" Host name being used "shaman.lvccld.lib.nv.us" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"shaman.lvccld.lib.nv.us" Context mail/[] type: LOCAL new win size -----<24 80>------ Terminal type: vt100 Context mail/[] type: LOCAL Context *{post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" IMAP 11:45 11/7 mm_log babble: post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us POP3 server (Netscape Mail Server v2.01) ready Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:48:36 -0800 Opened folder "{post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us/pop3}" with 4 messages Sorting by Arrival IMAP 11:45 11/7 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /lvccld/auto/home/tomh/.pine-interrupted-mail - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Out of free storage save_debug_on_crash: Version 3.91: debug level 2 : Thu Nov 7 11:45:51 1996 Attempting to save debug file to /lvccld/auto/home/tomh/.pine-crash --------------7AB014C315E2-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:08:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA04283 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA26842 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:06:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA26838 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:06:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMh44-00038BC; Sun, 10 Nov 96 13:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: setup printer Date: 10 Nov 1996 16:25:28 GMT Message-ID: <564vlo$i03@due.unit.no> References: <199611070408.UAA09102@victor1.vv.cta.com> <5606ar$a6a@due.unit.no> In article , Holger Lillqvist wrote: > >On 8 Nov 1996 20:48:27 GMT, Orjan Johansen wrote: >: Alas, that feature was introduced in Pine 3.92 at the earliest. > >Alas, you're wrong. Absolutely. I confused it with the Signature option. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 17:14:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA06485 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 17:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA03645 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 17:11:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA03641 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 17:11:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMksH-00038BC; Sun, 10 Nov 96 17:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@linux.scott.net (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: New feature request Date: 8 Nov 1996 04:44:59 GMT Message-ID: References: On Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:58:23 -0800, Abhay Roy wrote: > >On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Jago wrote: > >+ > Is there a plan to support the following in any forthcoming releases (3.95 >+ > doesn't have any of these). >+ > >+ > 1. Mouse cut and paste to and from pine window. >+ >+ It already exists for x-windows. Read PINE's online help for >+ enable-mouse-in-xterm. As for PC-PINE, I'm uncertain. > >Hmm .. With my window manager (olvwm), when I enable this feature, I can >select the message I want to read, with the mouse. If I double-click, It >automatically displays me the message. BUT I can't mark a few lines from the >message display and paste in another xterm. Are you able to do that ? How ? > >Online Release Notes talks about the feature. And it appears to be available >only for X/Motif users ? (olvwm is OpenLook) > >Regards, >-Roy- > > I had the same problem. So I *disabled* "enable-mouse-in-xterm." I can't use the pick-a-message, but I can cut and paste. I guess it's one or the other, not both. -- Scott Buntin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:59:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA08851 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:59:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA03282 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:54:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbmb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA03278 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:54:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA17674; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:28:59 +0530 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:28:58 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbmb To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: query Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, I am pretty new to pine. Can somebody please tell me as to how i delete all messages from the inbox at one go? thanks vipul. ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:23:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA08538 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA04452 for pine-info-out; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:17:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA04448 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:17:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMqcY-00038BC; Sun, 10 Nov 96 23:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Problem with custom prints scripts in 3.95 Date: 10 Nov 1996 21:38:06 GMT Message-ID: <565hvu$k57@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <1996Nov4.093354.8659@venus.gov.bc.ca> jbaker@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jason Baker) writes: >We're running into a problem with using a custom print script, where >Pine keeps trying to treat arguments to the script as filenames. >I've put it in a 'personally selected print command' as: > Printer List: "" print_pine -bl06 >In this case, "-bl06" is intended to be an argument to the script >print_pine. When only print_pine is called, it works great. When >the option is there, we get this error on the screen: > [PRINT Result: Can't open -bl06: No such file or directory] >This has me completely baffled. I'm fairly certain it's not the >script, but if somebody wants to see it, I have no problem in posting >it as well (it's a short Perl script). Any ideas? I do not do much perl, but what you describe could be a problem of improper quoting of args, or it might simply be a problem of not processing the args with getopt or getopts, whichever perl uses. This does not seem like a pine question, rather a problem with the script. >Jason >-- >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > jbaker@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca | To err is human; to really > Systems Administrator, Information Systems | bugger things up requires > BC Family Maintenance Enforcement Program | the root password. > print unpack("u","92G5S\=\"!A;F]T:&5R(\'!E PGP key available from keyservers. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:32:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA10007 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA09301 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:27:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA09297 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:27:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMriL-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 00:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: New feature request Date: 10 Nov 1996 21:44:29 GMT Message-ID: <565ibt$l3k@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: Abhay Roy writes: >Pine developers, >Is there a plan to support the following in any forthcoming releases (3.95 >doesn't have any of these). >1. Mouse cut and paste to and from pine window. I cut and paste with a mouse all the time. Solaris 2.X running xterms. >2. Mail/News threading. Get a real newsreader. However I do not like real threading and am happy with a real newsreader, nn, that does not do threading. >Regards, >-Roy- -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:33:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA08822 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA05465 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:29:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA05461 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:29:27 -0800 Received: from gonzo.wolfenet.com (jullman@gonzo.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.2]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id AAA16275 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:30:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:29:24 -0800 (PST) From: John Ullman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How can I read mail folder files on my PC? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for a way to read and edit messages I have saved in PINE mail folder files off line on my PC. I would like to download a mail folder file and read and edit messages with either a DOS or Windows based program. I would appreciate knowing which programs can be used for this purpose and how to aquire them. Thanks! John Ullman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 01:27:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA10333 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 01:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA06263 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 01:24:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA06259 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 01:24:36 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id KAA10734; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:24:13 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA01141; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:22:11 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:15:22 +0100 (MET) To: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: query In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND wrote: -> hi, -> -> I am pretty new to pine. Can somebody please tell me as to how i delete -> all messages from the inbox at one go? -> -> thanks -> -> vipul. -> -> ----------------------------- -> -> Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay -> cheers -> ----------------------------- -> Change to setup-menu and read help for the switch "enable-aggregate-command-set". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:52:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA11750 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA08112 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:48:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA08108 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:48:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMung-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 03:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tornadotla@aol.com Subject: Sending error 452 Date: 10 Nov 1996 18:42:37 GMT Message-ID: <19961110184500.NAA10096@ladder01.news.aol.com> To Whom it May Concern, I use pine with the megahertz system at the New Jersey Institute of Technology. When I try to send out e-mail, I get sending error message 452. What is that? How can I get rid of that message? NJIT e-mail address: tla2390@megahertz.njit.edu Thank you. Tomlee L. Abraham e-mail me at tornadotla@aol.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:59:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA11472 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA11958 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:53:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA11948 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 03:53:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMusA-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 03:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Untitled Date: 10 Nov 1996 02:44:04 GMT Message-ID: References: In-reply-to: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no's message of 8 Nov 1996 20:39:11 GMT In article <5605pf$9rb@due.unit.no> oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) writes: However, since it is the same character (^T) which doesn't work in several situations, I suspect something is wrong with your terminal program. I had a similar problem once with a telnet program which insisted on using ^O as the flushoutput character, so I couldn't postpone. (I finally found out how to make a .telnetrc file which solved the problem.) Both cases could probably be addressed by pine's "fail-safe" alternate escape sequences, in which a pair of Escape key presses replaces use of the Ctrl key. Thus, if ^T doesn't work, try Esc Esc t; if ^O doesn't work try Esc Esc o. Hope it helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov http://www.dc-sage.org/bios/rick_troxel 301/435-2983 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:29:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA09269 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA13988 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:26:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dc.isx.com (mole.dc.isx.com [205.138.218.44]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA13978 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:26:34 -0800 Received: from euclid ([205.138.218.51]) by dc.isx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09375; Mon, 11 Nov 96 09:25:46 EST Message-Id: <32873783.7F2E@dc.isx.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:26:11 -0500 From: Murtaza Kamal Organization: ISX Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Pine Information List Cc: Pine Information List Subject: (no subject) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe pine-info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:34:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA12906 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:34:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA14008 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:28:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dc.isx.com (mole.dc.isx.com [205.138.218.44]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA14004 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:28:22 -0800 Received: from euclid ([205.138.218.51]) by dc.isx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09400; Mon, 11 Nov 96 09:27:36 EST Message-Id: <328737F1.6083@dc.isx.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:28:01 -0500 From: Murtaza Kamal Organization: ISX Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Pine Information List Subject: (no subject) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe pine-info Murtaza Kamal unsubscribe pine-info Murtaza Kamal From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:02:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA12469 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA10633 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:53:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logoplex.com (logoplex.com [205.148.209.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA10628 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:53:23 -0800 Received: (from glenn@localhost) by logoplex.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA00038; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:54:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:54:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Glenn Allan; Farkas" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII help pine-info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:04:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA32137 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA14304 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:51:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logoplex.com (logoplex.com [205.148.209.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA14300 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 06:51:50 -0800 Received: (from glenn@localhost) by logoplex.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA00016; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:52:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:52:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Glenn Allan; Farkas" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.95 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I just tried upgrading from pine 3.91 to 3.95 on my Linux (picasso) system (basically, just copied the binary into /usr/bin - saving the 3.91 version, of course). When I try to start 3.95, I get the message: "Error creating /var/spool/mail/glenn.lock.847655022.12958.logoplex.com" It doesn't stop me from viewing messages, but it is fairly annoying. More annoying is that I get a messagin when I try to send a message which tells me that it can't access sendmail (actually, I believe the message was something about being unable to pipe to sendmail...). Obviously I've had to go back to 3.91 for now. I never got this on 3.91 of pine. I'm the "system administrator" of this system, so I can't check with anyone else here. Can you guys help me out? Thanks. Glenn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:00:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA13710 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA11445 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:53:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA11441 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:53:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vMybG-00038TC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 07:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: werner@world.std.com (Craig Werner) Subject: Sending Pine address book between providers Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:46:06 GMT Hello, everyone. I would like to take my .addressbook and .addressbook.lu files on one provider and send them to another. The files were created with Pine 3.95, but the system I'll be sending them to uses 3.93. Will this transfer result in a usable address book on the destination system? Thank you for all help. Craig Werner From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:04:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA13813 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA11582 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:01:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA11578 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:01:21 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (pm2-adr24.interl.net [205.244.161.24]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA27920; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:58:54 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA02005; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:01:29 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:01:27 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: "Glenn Allan; Farkas" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Glenn Allan; Farkas wrote: > I just tried upgrading from pine 3.91 to 3.95 on my Linux (picasso) > system (basically, just copied the binary into /usr/bin - saving the 3.91 > version, of course). > > When I try to start 3.95, I get the message: > > "Error creating /var/spool/mail/glenn.lock.847655022.12958.logoplex.com" Try setting the /usr/spool/mail directory to rwx by owner, group, and others, and turn on the sticky bit (sorry, I forget the 'octal' number for this permission). I had the same problem - also with Pine 3.95 with Linux. I thought it was a new problem with Pine 3.95, but it turns out that 3.95 reports the problem that 3.91 ignored. That'll probably take care of the sendmail problem too. Jason PS - You might want to run 'chown root.mail mail' just in case -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBModNwiGB07hAGnFhAQHfigP+NLu8qIznBQ8ijkBlgixtffwIzkM85dZX bMdls994enBEeB7lmD+x7CqXSIt+c2WzQztNrfP+iZ2em/EIABoxyvuJTWCY1kbU t+pMargDk+dbfAcgThAITPIe5+eOJlQRwUS7Y8ea1lP0N2bdsw58wmG/qPjSlZkW t7TeNgWHn/Y= =NnLC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:08:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA13811 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA11649 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:06:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA11645 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:06:10 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (pm2-adr26.interl.net [205.244.161.26]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA28062; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:03:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA02133; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:06:15 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:06:14 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: query In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND wrote: > I am pretty new to pine. Can somebody please tell me as to how i delete > all messages from the inbox at one go? Turn on enable-aggregate-command-set in Pine's setup|config, and from the index of your inbox hit ;aad ; = select -> a = all a = apply -> d = delete Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBModO6yGB07hAGnFhAQFCCAP+L+fBUJ33C4P78Y1FgWyDfw4YURC9lzbe dH65ln1cDuMd3L6dE6c7YprnSYKl9lluOtJ3K1G07DzUpWZnpY8zkmf7zJIvMa1B GpO3GvgjS2xGdGqxzlrfX8Kp/ksfrYNHO1qDEv+fOUsymfES1yyEPwvkxZLeiePF 7RB8jGS8ZMg= =awPB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:53:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA14399 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA16062 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:49:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.usa1.com (franklin.usa1.com [204.249.224.68]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA16058 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:49:46 -0800 From: oompah@usa1.com Received: from oompah.usa1.com ([204.249.225.112]) by franklin.usa1.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11518) with SMTP id AAA136 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:47:37 -0500 Message-ID: <32874FCE.2C70@usa1.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:09:50 -0500 Reply-To: oompah@usa1.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unable to delete message 0x7ee040 from inbox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Pine users, I use Pine 3.91 on a VMS system and normally see the error message shown in this message's subject line whenever I delete messages from my inbox. Actually, the error doesn't happen every single time I delete messages but it does happen quite often. Sometimes the '0x7ee040' is a slightly different number which I assume to be something in hexadecimal. Is anyone familiar with this error and could you suggest a fix to it ?? Also, a few days ago somebody sent me a message a few pages in length and when I tried to "forward" the message to somebody else, pine crashed out of the program. The computer then displayed a message about an 'access violation' and other gobbly gook like register values and such. This error only seems to happen when I try to forward that particular message! Could the problem be with the message itself? Has anyone had Pine crash when trying to send or forward a message ?? Any help is greatly appreciated... Sincerely, - oompah From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:58:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA13733 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA12446 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:53:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.usa1.com (franklin.usa1.com [204.249.224.68]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA12442 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:53:52 -0800 From: oompah@usa1.com Received: from oompah.usa1.com ([204.249.225.112]) by franklin.usa1.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11518) with SMTP id AAA223 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:51:30 -0500 Message-ID: <32875929.3C47@usa1.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:49:45 -0500 Reply-To: oompah@usa1.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: digest form Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if its possible to get messages from this list in digest form? Apparently the listserver doesn't understand the "set digest" command. I like being on the list but it's a bit annoying always getting messages from pine-info throughout the day. Anyone?? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:24:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA14710 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:24:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA13013 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:20:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA13009 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:20:37 -0800 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA20005; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:20:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:20:28 -0500 (EST) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma To: oompah@usa1.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: digest form In-Reply-To: <32875929.3C47@usa1.com> Message-ID: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would suggest using procmail (ftp from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de) to sort your incoming mail. By doing so, all email messages for 'pine' can be sent to a separate mailbox, so you won't be bothered by each message, but can stay on the list. Just open the mailbox once a day and read whatever messages have come in... I do this to stay on several mailing lists without being bothered by them. BTW if your version of procmail is not procmai.3.11pre4, you should upgrade. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:27:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA15508 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA17698 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:23:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA17694 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:23:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vN100-00038TC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 10:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Duc Le Subject: Re: INBOX(READONLY)? Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 17:03:03 -0800 Message-ID: <328286C7.548C@webvenue.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rudolf E. Bahr wrote: > > Hello, > > After a reboot there couldn't be any other mail session. Nevertheless > the message "INBOX (READONLY)" remains. > > Where is that annoying flag? > > Regards, > R.E.Bahr > > NISI APES FINIS http://www.dainet.de/buckfast/home.htm Did you check the permission of the mailbox? Duc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:48:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA15554 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA14541 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:43:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA14537 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:43:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vN1G7-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 10:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (PAQUIN Isabelle) Subject: Re: FAQ about pico Date: 8 Nov 1996 19:55:10 GMT Message-ID: <56036u$r1@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Matthew van Wollen (mvanwoll@physics.ubc.ca) affirmait publiquement que: | How do you *un*justify in pico? Every time I hit CTRL-J, Doing a ^U just after you ^J will unjustify it. But don't do anything else in between... HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ La mémoire est l'avenir du passé. -- P. Valéry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:28:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA15791 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:28:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA18739 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:23:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA18735 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:23:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vN1tJ-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 11:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: 3.95 - Prompting of INBOX Emails Date: 2 Nov 1996 22:55:33 GMT Message-ID: <55gjh5$se4@due.unit.no> References: <55g7rj$gv6@nerd.apk.net> In article <55g7rj$gv6@nerd.apk.net>, High Flight wrote: >The prompting for emails will vary from full inverse to just a single > >in the far left margin. I've looked in the 'help' files and can't find >anything that addresses this. I'd like to set it for inverse. This is determined by the assume-slow-link option. If set, then a '>' will be used to save the number of characters transfered, but only when you actually have a slow connection. If you don't care about the speed drop, just unset it in Setup Config. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:37:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA18724 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA18285 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:34:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA18278 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:34:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vN4vc-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 14:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pwyzlic@pwyz.rhein.de (Peter Wyzlic) Subject: Re: A good mail filter? Date: 2 Nov 1996 09:40:07 GMT Message-ID: References: <55dq7t$k3g@crl7.crl.com> On 1 Nov 1996 13:31:41 -0800, Scott Matteson wrote: >Does anyone know of a good, reliable mail filtering program that can be >configured to reject e-mail from a specific e-mail address or addresses? >I've attempted to use procmail but it's worthless and I was wondering >if there's something out there that does the job simply and efficiently. >Thanks in advance for any suggestions- Have you really looked at the following man pages : procmail (1) - autonomous mail processor procmailex (5) - procmail rcfile examples procmailrc (5) - procmail rcfile procmailsc (5) - procmail weighted scoring techique Especially procmailex is full of useful examples. It took only one hour or two to read the documentation, to understand it (:-), and to write a procmailrc. Here it does what you want it to do and it does it's work flawlessly. BTW there is a mailing list for procmail questions. \bye -- ########################################################################### Peter Wyzlic pwyzlic@pwyz.rhein.de ########################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:22:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA20676 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA24572 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:19:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from WG1.garrett.ncin.com ([205.130.242.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA24565 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:19:02 -0800 Received: from [205.130.242.65] by garrett.ncin.com id a24d0.wrk; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:18:26 EDT Message-ID: <32880AEF.5E32@garrett.ncin.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:28:15 -0800 From: "Glenn P. Tolbert" Reply-To: glenn.tolbert@garrett.ncin.com Organization: self X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Makimg a pine cone wreath Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can you tell us how to make a pine cone wreath. We ahve the pine cones, wire and a grapevine form. Is that the right beginning? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:33:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA20700 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:33:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA21208 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:29:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA21204 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:29:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vN7d0-00038TC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 17:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dirk Allard Subject: Pine + News Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:02:23 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, is it possible to delete news articles not only one by one but in groups (defined by a range of numbers) or completely? Dirk Internet: allad000@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de Mausnetz: Dirk Allard @ WI2 Spielleiter (GM) von UN2/UN3 und GC00x UN3: http://wipux2.wifo.uni-mannheim.de/~son01087/united_3.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:02:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA19041 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA25070 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:59:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA25066 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:59:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vN84d-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 17:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: Session Hangs with Alternate Editor Date: 11 Nov 1996 19:12:11 GMT Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paul O Bartlett wrote: ; From time to time, when I go to reply to either mail or news, I get ; a session hang. I will fill out the headers and then move down into ; the message body. Pine generates the file on /tmp and invokes JOE. ; However, at seemingly random intervals -- I have not been able to ; detect a pattern -- as soon as JOE is entered everything locks up tight. A nasty problem.. The obvious thing to do now is to change alternate editor for a time (why not try jed with ws emulation, it is not so far from joe). If the problems then are gone - well, too bad for joe. -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:07:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA20731 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA21738 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:04:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA21734 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:04:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vN897-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 18:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Black Subject: Re: Signature configuration Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:30:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Another way, though requiring a little more effort, is to put your signature in a file named something other than signature. Then, when you want a signature, use ^r, and you'll get a prompt for the filename. This way, you can add the signature only when desired (but without wading through the configuration menu each time), and even have more than one signature (for different occasions) by having different files. Michael On 8 Nov 1996, Fred Quick wrote: > Greetings, > > > When "signature is enabled" in the configuration menu, your prewritten > message is appended to the the bottom when composing a message.This is a > problem some times when subscribing to lists. The server reads all of > that extra text and rejects the subscription. > > My question is: > Can the signature b toggled on or off without going into the > configuration menu? > > Thanks in advance. > > Fred > (signature disabled) > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:09:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA20613 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:09:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA21799 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:06:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA21793 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:06:53 -0800 Received: from tuppence.cac.washington.edu (tuppence.cac.washington.edu [140.142.189.6]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA00950; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:06:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:06:43 -0800 () From: Terry Gray To: Sacha Horowitz cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trouble: empty inbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you go to your setup/config screen, from the Main Menu, what do you see shown for "Inbox-path" ? -teg On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Sacha Horowitz wrote: > > Hi. > I'm a student using PINE in a UNIX environment. > Sometimes - most of the time - when I open PINE recently, I have no > messages in my inbox, whereas other mail readers do show messages. It even > happens that messages that were in my inbox during one session are not > there anymore when I use PINE another time. > > The local staff cannot help me because they're not using PINE, even though > is on the network. > > Can anyone help me? > > Sacha > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:17:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA07848 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA26274 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:14:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA26270 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:14:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vN9Gn-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 19:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbolting@nemonet.com (Stephen Boltinghouse) Subject: cmsg cancel <1004.47993391706@news.nemonet.com> Message-ID: Control: cancel <1004.47993391706@news.nemonet.com> References: <1004.47993391706@news.nemonet.com> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 00:31:05 +1 MMF chain letter cancelled by hw@atlantic.fb12.tu-berlin.de . Ongoing huge MMF by Stephen Boltinghouse. Subject was: Just try this, it will work. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:23:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA20807 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA26349 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:21:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (uxa.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA26345 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:21:01 -0800 Received: from ecom4.ecn.bgu.edu (root@ecom4.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.24]) by uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id VAA20639 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:21:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (muadg3@localhost) by ecom4.ecn.bgu.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13317 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:12:33 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ecom4.ecn.bgu.edu: muadg3 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:12:32 -0600 (CST) From: Allan D Greggs X-Sender: muadg3@ecom4.ecn.bgu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: newsgroup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was reading that I should be able to subscribe to newsgroups through pine and I was wondering how I would go about doing so?? Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:07:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA22895 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA24477 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:05:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA24473 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:05:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNB0A-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 21:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@unc.edu (Joe Morris) Subject: Re: Sending Pine address book between providers Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 20:06:12 GMT Message-ID: <5680s1$gb1@newz.oit.unc.edu> References: In article , werner@world.std.com (Craig Werner) wrote: |I would like to take my .addressbook and .addressbook.lu files on one |provider and send them to another. The files were created with Pine |3.95, but the system I'll be sending them to uses 3.93. Will this |transfer result in a usable address book on the destination system? I used to share my addressbook between Pine 3.91, PC-Pine 3.94, and PC-Pine 3.93. Never had a problem. BTW, you do not need the file with the "lu" extension. This is created and updated dynamically by Pine. _______________________________________________________________ Joe Morris - morris@unc.edu - http://sunsite.unc.edu/morris Academic Technology and Networks (formerly OIT), Development University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:01:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA22806 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA25179 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:56:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.214]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA25174 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:56:26 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA) id WAA16467 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:56:32 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA64618 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:56:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:56:24 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Makimg a pine cone wreath In-Reply-To: <32880AEF.5E32@garrett.ncin.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Glenn P. Tolbert wrote: > Can you tell us how to make a pine cone wreath. We ahve the pine cones, > wire and a grapevine form. Is that the right beginning? I don't know if this was supposed to be funny or not, but I don't think I've laughed this hard in a long time. Thanks, Glenn, for the levity in a (literally) long weekend...(I'm in Edmonton, Canada, and we've had a foot of snow over the weekend and it's *still* falling...)... Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:28:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA23655 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:28:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA28903 for pine-info-out; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:25:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA28899 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:25:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNCG3-00038BC; Mon, 11 Nov 96 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dbromage@metz.une.edu.au (David Bromage) Subject: Re: someone is bothering me HELP!!!! Date: 8 Nov 1996 09:36:22 GMT Message-ID: <55uuum$jb2$2@gruvel.une.edu.au> References: Mike Harris (mharris@nj5.injersey.com) wrote: >This girl's predicament, and many others, is *exactly* why I think >PINE needs the ability for killfiles. if you're running pine you can run procmail. Cheers David From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:04:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA23134 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA28403 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:00:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA28399 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:00:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNFZE-00038TC; Tue, 12 Nov 96 01:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: CC Date: 10 Nov 1996 04:09:54 GMT Message-ID: <563kii$mmp@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <2.2.32.19961107222740.003141bc@co.cees.edu> Un jour, James E. Bendler (bendler@ceesnfs.co.cees.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | When you reply-to-all from a message that you were CC'd on, how do you | keep pine from including you in the TO list? It would be easier for you to keep a local FCC (Folder Carbon Copy) instead of sending it to yourself. On the other hand, it will reduce the mail traffic on your mail server... HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ La possibilité que Dieu n'existe pas n'est pas encore un motif de croire aux hommes. -- K. Fischer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:31:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA17641 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA03616 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:21:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spinoza.jesus.ox.ac.uk (spinoza.jesus.ox.ac.uk [163.1.136.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA03606 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:20:51 -0800 Received: by spinoza.jesus.ox.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0vNHon-000IgjC; Tue, 12 Nov 96 12:19 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 12:19 GMT From: clifford@jesus.ox.ac.uk (Peter Clifford) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Moving Read Mail We're using pine on a Sparc server with around 400 users and we'd like to set the global default so that read messages are automatically moved to SAVEDMAIL. The trouble is that users leave their messages in INBOX and our /var/spool/mail directory overflows. The users can't be relied upon to edit their own .pinerc files. Is there some way of doing this globally? Peter Clifford From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 05:46:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA27296 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 05:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA04843 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 05:34:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA04833 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 05:33:59 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:13:50 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id NAA19582; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:19:35 GMT Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:19:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Peter Clifford cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Moving Read Mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Yes.... you will need to set up and configure a systemwide configuration file for Pine. This is typically called /usr/local/lib/pine.conf ... you can get a template file by using the "-conf" option on the Pine command line... pine -conf > pine.conf and then editing the result. (This option is described in the man page for Pine.) Note that any settings in this file can still be over-ridden by users in their own preferences file. However you can copy any settings you want to FORCE into place (so that users can't override them) to a "fixed configuration file" (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf/fixed). -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Peter Clifford wrote: > > We're using pine on a Sparc server with around 400 users and we'd like > to set the global default so that read messages are automatically moved > to SAVEDMAIL. The trouble is that users leave their messages in INBOX > and our /var/spool/mail directory overflows. The users can't be relied upon > to edit their own .pinerc files. > > Is there some way of doing this globally? > > Peter Clifford > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 06:35:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA26983 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 06:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA05689 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 06:31:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA05685 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 06:31:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNJri-00038BC; Tue, 12 Nov 96 06:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Mailcap question Date: 11 Nov 1996 14:56:47 GMT Message-ID: This is a mailcap/MIME question but it concerns Pine so here goes. o How do I view a text/HTML attachment in one of my mails in my Netscape browser? Here is what I tried + Added the following line to my $HOME/.mime-types file text/html html + Added the following line to my $HOME/.mailcap file text/html;netscape -remote 'openFile (%s)' I used the 'remote' option because I want it to display the HTML file in a already running Netscape process. Here is what happens when I say View Attachment in Pine: It raises up my Netscape window all right but gives some error message about 'Unable to open file....., etc. Here is what shows in my Pine 'About Attachment' command about this attachment: Details about Attachment #2 : Type : Text Subtype : HTML Encoding : 7BIT Parameters : CHARSET = us-ascii NAME = index.html Approx. Size : 32,321 bytes Display Method : "netscape -remote 'openFile ()'" So it is picking up my .mailcap entry but still does not work.. HELP, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:27:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA29044 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA04304 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:22:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logoplex.com (logoplex.com [205.148.209.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA04298 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:22:36 -0800 Received: (from glenn@localhost) by logoplex.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA07110; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:23:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:23:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Glenn Allan; Farkas" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: More Pine 3.95 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Got past the lock file messages, thanks to the help of nice folks here. Now, though, when I try to send a message using Pine 3.95, I'm still getting the message: "Pipe can't access Sendmail: no such file or directory" Rather annoying. I don't see why 3.95 would have problems accessing sendmail when 3.91 doesn't seem to, but, then again, what do I know.... Any ideas would be most welcome. Glenn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:34:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA31956 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA06089 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:29:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA06085 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:29:04 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:04:22 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id RAA29256; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:10:04 GMT Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:10:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Mailcap question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Hmmmm..... no further suggestions immediately spring to mind, I'm afraid: our Pine seems quite happy with the following mailcap entry: text/html; /usr/local/bin/netscape %s; \ description="HTML document" If I think of anything I'll let you know. -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 vikas@insight.att.com wrote: > Yes, I do have Netscape already running. And I verified that the > -remote option works by typing the following on my Unix command line: > netscape -remote 'openFile(/home/vikas/index.html)' > > This indeed 'raised' my Netscape window to the top and displayed > that HTML file there. > > Any clues, > --Vikas > > > On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:57:13 +0000 (GMT) > > From: Mike Brudenell > > Subject: Re: Mailcap question > > > > Do you already have Netscape Navigator running? > > > > (I have heard that the -remote option only affects an already running > > Navigator: it will not start one if there isn't one already running.) > > > > I haven't replied to the entire list/newsgroup as I don't know for certain > > if the above snippet of information is true or not. If you find it is, > > then you might like to post a message about it yourself. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Mike Brudenell > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:46:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA01293 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA08017 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:37:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cagw2.att.com (cagw2.att.com [192.128.52.90]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA08013; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:37:25 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Received: from socrates.insight.att.com by caig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id NAA27439; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:40:04 -0500 Received: from joshua.insight.att.com (joshua.insight.att.com [135.205.200.52]) by socrates.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18509; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:36:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:36:38 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: David L Miller Subject: Re: Mailcap question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, !!!!!!!!! This kind of response from one of the authors of Pine :-) :-) Yes, I understand that I can always do that. But since Pine is supposed to adhere to RFC 1524, etc about MIME/mailcap compliance, I thought I should be able to simply do a 'V' and 'Enter' to see my attachment insread of saving it to a file. What you are asking me to do defeats the whole purpose of attachments and mailcap files and MIME? Please tell me you have looked at the code and have some suggestions as to why Pine is thinking that '/var/tmp/tmp-....' is my file name and not actually copying that file there.... I mean, this looks like a bug in Pine's mailcap handling, right? --Vikas On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, David L Miller wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:24:11 -0800 (PST) > From: David L Miller > Subject: Re: Mailcap question > > > > On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 vikas@insight.att.com wrote: > > > I did 'Save attachment' in the View Attachment Index screen and > > saved it to a file as /home/vikas/index.html. > > Then I did netscape -remote 'openFile(/home/vikas/index.html)' > > and voila, it displayed that HTML file just dandy. > > Try saving the attachment to /var/tmp/index.html then run > > netscape -remote 'openFile(/var/tmp/index.html)' > > --DLM > > -- > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8413.62 > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:48:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA31424 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA08200 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:44:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcgw2.att.com (kcgw2.att.com [192.128.133.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA08193 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:44:00 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Received: from socrates.insight.att.com by kcig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id MAA26289; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:39:31 -0600 Received: from joshua.insight.att.com (joshua.insight.att.com [135.205.200.52]) by socrates.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18720; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:43:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:43:20 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: Mailcap question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, I am sure that what you have will work even for me. But the point is that I ****DONT**** want to start of another invocation of netscape whenever I view a HTML attachment. **HENCE** the netscape -remote option.... Sorry for shouting. But I just got a response back from David Miller@WASHINGTON.EDU, one of the authors of Pine and his suggestion was 'Save the attachment to a file and then do netscape -remote 'openFile()' !!!! Sheesh... I knew that.. I think this is a simple bug in Pine that is being overlooked. Thanks for your help, --Vikas On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:10:04 +0000 (GMT) > From: Mike Brudenell > Cc: Pine Info Mailing List > Subject: Re: Mailcap question > > Hmmmm..... no further suggestions immediately spring to mind, I'm > afraid: our Pine seems quite happy with the following mailcap entry: > > text/html; /usr/local/bin/netscape %s; \ > description="HTML document" > > If I think of anything I'll let you know. > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 vikas@insight.att.com wrote: > > > Yes, I do have Netscape already running. And I verified that the > > -remote option works by typing the following on my Unix command line: > > netscape -remote 'openFile(/home/vikas/index.html)' > > > > This indeed 'raised' my Netscape window to the top and displayed > > that HTML file there. > > > > Any clues, > > --Vikas > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > > > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:57:13 +0000 (GMT) > > > From: Mike Brudenell > > > Subject: Re: Mailcap question > > > > > > Do you already have Netscape Navigator running? > > > > > > (I have heard that the -remote option only affects an already running > > > Navigator: it will not start one if there isn't one already running.) > > > > > > I haven't replied to the entire list/newsgroup as I don't know for certain > > > if the above snippet of information is true or not. If you find it is, > > > then you might like to post a message about it yourself. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > -- > > > Mike Brudenell > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:13:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA01808 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA12304 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:05:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA12300 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:05:41 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (pm2-adr31.interl.net [205.244.161.31]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA27513; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:03:13 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA03481; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:06:00 -0600 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:05:57 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: "Glenn Allan; Farkas" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: More Pine 3.95 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Glenn Allan; Farkas wrote: > Got past the lock file messages, thanks to the help of nice folks here. > Now, though, when I try to send a message using Pine 3.95, I'm still > getting the message: > > "Pipe can't access Sendmail: no such file or directory" > > Rather annoying. I don't see why 3.95 would have problems accessing > sendmail when 3.91 doesn't seem to, but, then again, what do I know.... > > Any ideas would be most welcome. Not sure about this but it sounds like you don't have a symbolic link from /usr/sbin/sendmail to /usr/lib/sendmail. I _think_ Pine looks for /usr/lib/sendmail by default. So, check if it's there and if not: ln -sf /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail Try running "whereis sendmail" just in case you don't have the executable in /usr/sbin. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMojKgCGB07hAGnFhAQFIMAQA5J/O7NxtrrLlFq9TPX33OD2+38VTb9Qq 9431oUJgw2ZfZIKE4RDPY38lZKllM/BcI3DGsA/yuCZpstXkyn2OrmspVK4N0OcI lJ2TYu87C0O+rWHIMq+84hDYqyK6pe0mx9Zn28y31302z5My08w2/9oc1n4pTowt mgmWL5nGK28= =BfMR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:53:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA04104 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA11144 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:41:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA11140 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:41:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNPaV-00038TC; Tue, 12 Nov 96 12:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeremy@hiway1.exit109.com (Jeremy) Subject: Re: cancelling articles? Date: 12 Nov 1996 14:24:03 -0500 Message-ID: <56aisj$cnb@hiway1.exit109.com> References: <199611071409.JAA20775@anon.lcs.mit.edu> pobart@access.digex.net (Paul O Bartlett ) wrote: > I have never had reason to do it, but I think you cancel articles >from Pine the way you cancel them from any other newsreader. Send a >blank (no body) post to the newsgroup(s) involved with the Subject: > >cmsg cancel > Since I have not had experience with cancelling news, I will >cheerfully accept corrections or amplifications. You should have a Control: cancel header in there. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeremy | The customer is always right, jeremy@exit109.com | until he tries to say something. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:51:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA05637 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA12794 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:42:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by 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AUIy6g7twAFHPwMNCgEfBQ0K4egD69JwwC//AeA8798EEN1Psb3wD50f88gN CuDw7t2O6/7b/83c7M3uv+7//w0Kzw0KDQouCECgUA0K4DDQUQ0K4S/g/N8M v/zfzQ0K8S7hYMA+8SAlDQpNDQo= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:16:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA06873 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:16:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA18726 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:12:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA18722 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:12:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNRzC-00038BC; Tue, 12 Nov 96 15:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Jess Bowers Subject: Re: Q: Pine and HyperTerminal PE Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:02:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I just dialed in for a third time and now I've got black letters on white. Haven't seen this in months. What give's? TIA, T. Jess Bowers GSU College of Law tjbowers@gsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:22:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA07707 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA15460 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:19:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logoplex.com (logoplex.com [205.148.209.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA15454 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:19:45 -0800 Received: (from glenn@localhost) by logoplex.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA09052; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:20:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:20:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Glenn Allan; Farkas" To: Jason Englander cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: More Pine 3.95 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Jason Englander wrote: > /usr/sbin/sendmail to /usr/lib/sendmail. I _think_ Pine looks for > /usr/lib/sendmail by default. > > So, check if it's there and if not: > > ln -sf /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail > > Try running "whereis sendmail" just in case you don't have the executable in > /usr/sbin. > > Ummmm, the link is already in place, I'm afraid. Any idea what else it could be? Glenn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:31:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA07902 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA17337 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:28:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.usa1.com (franklin.usa1.com [204.249.224.68]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA17332 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:28:15 -0800 From: oompah@usa1.com Received: from oompah.usa1.com ([204.249.225.106]) by franklin.usa1.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11518) with SMTP id AAA201 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:25:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3289154D.622E@usa1.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:24:45 -0500 Reply-To: oompah@usa1.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pine List Subject: incoming mail - where will it go next ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings fellow pine users, At work I use Pine 3.91 and lately I've run into a few problems. I've posted a couple of questions to the list but unfortunately no one has answered me yet. One thing I've noticed is that my new email will show up in EITHER my INBOX or my NEWMAIL folder. There seems to be no pattern as to which folder the new mail with go. I think it probably has something to do with possibly conflicting settings but I'm not sure. I've read through the descriptions of all the setting options but can't see why this is happening. Does anyone have a clue about this ? Regards, oompah. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA08226 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA18341 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:09:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from www.gnofn.org (www.gnofn.org [199.181.71.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA18337 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:09:14 -0800 Received: from www.gnofn.org (www.gnofn.org [199.181.71.9]) by www.gnofn.org (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id QAA14230 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:19:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:19:18 -0600 (CST) From: Katherine L Hart To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: need help with pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can no longer use quotation marks and apostrophes in the e-mail I send - the program does not recognize them. This affects my livelihood. I'm a freelance journalist and use e-mail to file stories. My local access provider - the greater new orleans freenet - did not have any advice. What can I do? Is it the character settings? How can I alter them? I use a Mac Performa 475. This occurs with files I export from a word-processing program (ClarisWorks). Thanks for reading this. Katherine Hart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:15:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA32721 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA24417 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:12:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aix1.uottawa.ca (aix1.uottawa.ca [137.122.33.202]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA24413 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:12:51 -0800 From: mmyles@aix1.uottawa.ca Received: from localhost by aix1.uottawa.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17096; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:12:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:12:46 -0500 (EST) To: U Washington Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HELLO THERE! COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME HOW I CAN SEND A MESSAGE TO ALL THE PERSONS IN ENTIRE ADDRESS BOOK AT ONCE? SURELY THERE MUST BE A WAY OF DOING THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MICHAEL MYLES, OTTAWA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:18:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA11254 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA25417 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:14:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA25413 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:14:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNWh2-00038BC; Tue, 12 Nov 96 20:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: cancelling articles? Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:06:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <199611071409.JAA20775@anon.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199611071409.JAA20775@anon.lcs.mit.edu> On 7 Nov 1996, grok the void type wrote: > The other day I posted a Usenet news article using pine's builtin > newsreader. Later I discovered I needed to cancel the article but couldn't > as there is no cancel command in pine. Is there a way to cancel a news > article posted with pine? I have never had reason to do it, but I think you cancel articles from Pine the way you cancel them from any other newsreader. Send a blank (no body) post to the newsgroup(s) involved with the Subject: cmsg cancel where you have to know what the message-id is. One caveat. I have heard (I have not verified) that you must post the cancellation from exactly the same domain as the original posting you are trying to cancel. Example: the generic domain of my address is access.digex.net . However, when I actually logon, my real physical address may be any one of access1.digex.net access2.digex.net access4.digex.net access5.digex.net If I were to try to cancel a news post, I would have to be logged on to exactly the same host server that I was logged on to when I submitted the original post I wanted to cancel. For many people, of course, this is simply not an issue, but for some it can be a gotcha. Since I have not had experience with cancelling news, I will cheerfully accept corrections or amplifications. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:55:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA14279 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:55:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA23239 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:52:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA23232 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:52:00 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr38.interl.net [205.244.161.38]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA11078; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:49:31 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00546; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:51:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:51:25 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: "Glenn Allan; Farkas" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: More Pine 3.95 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Glenn Allan; Farkas wrote: > Ummmm, the link is already in place, I'm afraid. Any idea what else it > could be? Hmmm... How about the permissions of /usr/sbin/sendmail? Over here I have it set to 104555 ( -r-sr-xr-x ), owned by user: root, group: bin. ...and do you have anything set in .pinerc under "sendmail-path=" ? Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMolhzSGB07hAGnFhAQGgvAP/VhOv77UrCpTY+Fa3ulKh/mD1sRsUeqNf Z+K5cBqorX90pFhE9S+z4SQ7w+r7ujgBojGbDBmq6pMDV11bVPEy1AseowCPDt1d JMTc8mvCCrciY4tOlUOvN0KLr2SgW/hfLkesOeQv0q2/HU7ivu8ByLsiNI6aogPl Fh0dr/4Ngnk= =Z0wF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:02:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA13969 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA23348 for pine-info-out; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:00:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA23343 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:00:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNYM9-00038BC; Tue, 12 Nov 96 21:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jooji@orion.webspan.net (Jasper O'Malley) Subject: Re: need help with pine Date: 13 Nov 96 05:18:10 GMT Message-ID: References: klh03@gnofn.org (Katherine L Hart) writes: >I can no longer use quotation marks and apostrophes in the e-mail I send - >the program does not recognize them. This affects my livelihood. I'm a >freelance journalist and use e-mail to file stories. My local >access provider - the greater new orleans freenet - did not have any >advice. What can I do? Is it the character settings? How can I alter them? >I use a Mac Performa 475. This occurs with files I export from a >word-processing program (ClarisWorks). Thanks for reading this. >Katherine Hart Make sure you've got curly-quotes (otherwise known as "smart" quotes) turned off in ClarisWorks. They don't convert to regular " characters when you import the file to a UNIX environment, and will either disappear or show up as control characters (Ms and Md, I think?). The option to turn off smart quotes should be somewhere in the Preferences selection of the Edit menu, I b'lieve. Cheers, Mick -- The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley dotdot:jooji@webspan.net System Administrator ringring:9088861994x419 Webspan, Inc. woowoo:http://www.webspan.net/~jooji From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:26:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA15957 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA29891 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:21:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wamba.cpd.uva.es (wamba.cpd.uva.es [157.88.18.31]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA29885 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:21:28 -0800 Received: by wamba.cpd.uva.es (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA16432; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:20:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:20:25 +0100 (MET) From: Tomas Elias Colarte Morando To: pine informacion Subject: solicitar en espanol pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Amigos: He contactado con Robot, UW Email solicitando informacion de Pine en idioma espanol y me han sugerido solicitar sus servicios.Soy usuario de Pine y me interesaria profundizar en todas sus posibilidades de forma rapida para aumentar mi rendimiento en las comunicaciones, es por ello que preciso de cualquier informacion que en idioma espanol de ello se tenga. Espero poder satisfascer mi deseo, pero si ello no fuera posible entonces agradeceria de todas formas su esperada respuesta. !!!! Exitos !!!!. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:20:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA16843 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA01581 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:14:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in (sangam.ncst.ernet.in [202.41.110.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA01548 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:12:30 -0800 From: kumar@axpb.cdotb.ernet.in Received: from iisc.ernet.in (iisc.ernet.in [144.16.64.3]) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.7.5) with SMTP id QAA23357 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:42:31 +0530 (GMT+05:30) Received: from axpb (axpb.cdotb.ernet.in) by iisc.ernet.in (ERNET-IISc/SMI-4.1) id AA20188; Wed, 13 Nov 96 16:43:57+0530 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:43:04 -0500 Message-Id: <96111316430395@axpb.cdotb.ernet.in> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help X-Vms-To: SMTP%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Dear Sir, I am writing from india, i like to install PINE on OPENVMS System, please give the address of a site from where , i can download these files ( binaries ). Thank u, D.Kumar kumar@axpa.cdotb.ernet.in From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:24:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA05237 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA01641 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:17:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lassie.eunet.fi (lassie.eunet.fi [192.26.119.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA01637 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:17:27 -0800 Received: from khro.fi (khrsun.khro.fi) by lassie.eunet.fi with SMTP id AA04951 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:17:24 +0200 Received: from localhost by khro.fi (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09442; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:19:01 -0200 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:19:00 -0200 (GMT) From: Mika Siiskonen X-Sender: msiiskon@khrsun To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Local address pops to To-field In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > > What i am trying to say is that i don't have any chance to > > write the rest of the address (for example hornet.pspt.fi) > > because when i have typed msiiskon@ pine makes the rest of > > the address automatically (that is msiiskon@khro.fi). > > > > After that it jumps to Cc-field and writes @-mark there and > > the cursor blinks in Cc-field too. > > > > Now if i want to correct this i have to delete @-mark from > > Cc-field, then go to To-field and edit the rest of the address > > by deleting khro.fi and retyping hornet.pspt.fi > > I *fully* understand now! > > OK, this appears not to be a pine problem. You should > *not* be getting the @ sign in any of the fields without your > typing it yourself. I suspect there is something amiss with > your "stty" settings or your TERM settings. > > Can you tell us more about your environment? Like the > platform you are running on, etc? > > I'm not an expert in stty settings and the like...but > you may want to type "stty -a" at your shell prompt and post > it to the group. Someone may see something. I've had a problem > in the past where typing a @ character acted as a "kill". Here comes some more details: computer is Sun Sparc Classic and UNIX is Solaris 2.4 TERM=vt100 my stty -a settings are: speed 38400 baud; eucw 1:0:0:0, scrw 1:0:0:0 intr = ^c; quit = ^|; erase = ^?; kill = ^u; eof = ^d; eol = ; eol2 = ; swtch = ; start = ^q; stop = ^s; susp = ^z; dsusp = ^y; rprnt = ^r; flush = ^o; werase = ^w; lnext = ^v; -parenb -parodd cs8 -cstopb -hupcl cread -clocal -loblk -crtscts -parext -ignbrk brkint ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl -iuclc ixon -ixany -ixoff imaxbel isig icanon -xcase echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -tostop echoctl -echoprt echoke -defecho -flusho -pendin iexten opost -olcuc onlcr -ocrnl -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel tab3 I am beginning to be quite sure that the problem comes with my telnet-program or its settings. I use NetTerm-program Does anybody know what should the settings be ? Mika From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:10:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA16933 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:10:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA02605 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:05:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA02600 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:05:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNe3X-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 04:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qman@lor501 (dave) Subject: Re: Mailing executables Date: 12 Nov 1996 08:55:21 -0500 Message-ID: <569vk9$lsi@toolbox.rutgers.edu> References: <1996Nov9.204023.150560@forest> Paul O Bartlett writes: >On 9 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: >> I was just wondering if there is anyway to send an executable through pine >> so that when the receiver goes to read it, the executable launches. I am >> not planning on doing anything evil, i am just curious > I am not aware of any way to do this, but even if there were, it is >an extremely bad idea. It is far worse than the desire of some people >to put control characters in an email to cause special visual effects on >the recipient's terminal, which is already a bad idea. The easiest way to do this (at least on unix) is a program called "uuencode." But, this way assumes that the reciever has uudecode and knows how to use it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:28:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA18303 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA03752 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:25:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA03744 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:25:08 -0800 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 13 NOV 96 05:24:57 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:24:57 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Need Info on Lynx Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone know if there's a "lynx-info" list out there? I've checked for newsgroups but there's nothing applicable. Thanks! ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:29:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA18266 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA29955 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:27:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA29951 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:27:08 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA23598; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:57:43 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:57:42 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: kumar@axpb.cdotb.ernet.in cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: <96111316430395@axpb.cdotb.ernet.in> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, > I am writing from india, i like to install PINE on OPENVMS System, please give > the address of a site from where , i can download these files ( binaries ). Please try www.cac.washington.edu/pine for more details. Hope this help. Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:30:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA02626 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA03780 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:27:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA03776 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:27:17 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA21576; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:59:30 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:59:28 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Is there a way using pine whereby which the mail which I receive are automatically updated to a particular folder, depending on the criteria set? Thank You, Regards, Dinesh. drt@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:52:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA18378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA00361 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:47:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA00351 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:47:30 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA24066; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:19:43 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:19:41 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Newsgroups!?! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Can anyone please tell me how can I un-subscribe to all the newsgroups at one stroke? Well, the story is, somehow the other, I have just become a member of all the newsgroups. Thanks, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:25:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA09903 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA04487 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:20:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu (watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA04483 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:20:56 -0800 Received: (from brennan@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22154 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:20:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 9:20:54 EST From: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: cancelling articles? In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:06:49 -0500 Message-ID: > I have never had reason to do it, but I think you cancel articles > from Pine the way you cancel them from any other newsreader. Not exactly. Most unix newsreaders have a cancel command. It checks the userid of the person running the newsreader and if it matches the article to be cancelled, the newsreader composes the cancel article by itself, sparing the user the details. If only Pine's Delete command did this, and the articles were marked read by reading them, it would be like "any other newsreader". Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:57:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA16816 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA04933 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:52:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA04929 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:52:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNgbV-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 06:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr (Ollivier Robert) Subject: Re: cancelling articles? Date: 13 Nov 1996 13:35:49 GMT Message-ID: <56cirl$ip1@polaris.eurocontrol.fr> References: <199611071409.JAA20775@anon.lcs.mit.edu> <56aisj$cnb@hiway1.exit109.com> [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email] In article , Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > You should have a Control: cancel header in there. > > In *addition* to the Subject: line to which I referred or in > *place* of the Subject: line? The "Control: cancel" line should be enough but you may want to include the "Subject: cmsg cancel" for compatibility. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr Mutt: faster, smaller & better than Elm. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:19:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA20900 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA06422 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:15:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cs.tamu.edu (clavin.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.130.106]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA06418; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:15:06 -0800 Received: from slx13.cs.tamu.edu (1277@slx13.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.132.213]) by cs.tamu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id KAA23685; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:14:47 -0600 (CST) Received: (from lindat@localhost) by slx13.cs.tamu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA22239; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:17:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:17:28 -0600 (CST) From: Linda Ling Thai To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: cravenja@cleo.bc.edu, dlm@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine source code Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Does anybody know where the pine source code is. I tried to get to ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine, but the pine.tar.Z wasn't there. any ideas? thanks a lot and hope to hear from you soon. Linda From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:38:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA19042 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA06726 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:30:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA06719 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:30:23 -0800 Received: from scegud01.gud.siemens.at (root@[10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13082 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:29:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at by scegud01.gud.siemens.at with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA129532612; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:30:13 +0100 Received: from localhost by ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at (1.39.111.2/1.37) id AA188362548; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:29:08 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:29:07 +0100 (MET) From: Diethard Ohrt Reply-To: ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at To: Pine Info List Subject: Once more: "send back"/autoreply Message-Id: Company: Siemens AG Organization: PSE TMN Graz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I already mailed this to the list -- the problem persists: I wanted to test the "automatically send back" feature from the procmailex man pages, but it doesn't work at all. First, see my .procmailrc: ===== # A sample small $HOME/.procmailrc from the procmail(1) man pages PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/vue/bin:/users/ohrt/bin:/users/ohrt/usr/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail # DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox/default -- completely optional LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended VERBOSE=yes :0: * ^TOpine-info PineInfo :0: * ^Subject:.*ProcmailLock lockTest :0 * ^From +burg burgMail :0 chb * !^From +ohrt * !^Subject:.*Re: * !^FROM_DAEMON * ^Subject:.*retrieve | (formail -r ; echo "AUTOANSWERED\n" ; cat $MAILDIR/info_file) | $SENDMAIL -oitrue -t :0 * ^Subject:.*Flame /dev/null ===== -- and the .forward: "|IFS=' '&&p=/users/ohrt/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #ohrt" ===== Compared to actual .procmailrc, I made these changes: * ^From:.*burg [...] :0 chb * !^Subject:.*Re: * !^FROM_DAEMON * ^Subject:.*retrieve [...] Then I tried: 1) mailx -s "retrieve" ohrt a) as user "burg" (on the same host) result: - "burg" gets a reply, but without the "info_file". - _no_entry_ in the log file ("from" in .procmailrc) - _no_entry_ in burgMail, as suggested by .procmailrc b) as myself, user "ohrt" result: - I get the "info_file". - log file: [...] procmail: Match on "^Subject:.*retrieve" procmail: Executing " (formail -r ; echo "AUTOANSWERED\n" ; cat $MAILDIR/info_file) | $SENDMAIL -oitrue -t" [...] 2) mailx -s "nosub" ohrt a) "burg": as 1)a) b) "ohrt": [...] procmail: Match on ! "^Subject:.*Re:" procmail: Match on ! "(^(Precedence:.*(junk|bulk|[...] [...] procmail: No match on "^Subject:.*retrieve" [...] 3) in .procmailrc: changed line to * ^From +burg mailx -s "retrieve" ohrt a) "burg": as 1)a) b) "ohrt": as 1)b) mailx -s "nosub" ohrt same as 2) Original .procmailrc, i.e.: :0 chb * !^From +ohrt * !^Subject:.*Re: * !^FROM_DAEMON * ^Subject:.*retrieve 1) "burg": same as above 2) as myself: just "No match on ..." -- so, no action ... Well, after one day of experimenting it seems that I DO NOT GET ANY MAIL from anybody into my mailbox, except from me ... What am I doing wrong? Do I have to define any default target? According to the man pages, this is superfluous ("completely optional") ... Please help ... Cheers, Diti _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _ __------ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | -- \ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ |_ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | ___-\ o | _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ /_/ | | |__---| Diethard Ohrt Steiermark - das gruene Herz Oesterreichs SIEMENS AG / PSE TMN G1 Styria - the green heart of Austria A-8054 Graz Austria Styrie - le coeur vert d'Autriche =========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:39:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA21843 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA06856 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:36:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA06852 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:36:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNiGN-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 08:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How do you stop annoying, unsolicited, incoming mail? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:28:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <560if8$noo@news-central.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <560if8$noo@news-central.tiac.net> On 9 Nov 1996, Gentleman wrote (excerpts): > How can I stop annoying, unsolicited business opportunity > mail from reaching me? > I know that using elm we can use a mail-bounce feature which will > clog the sender's mail box ( if everyone used it that is ). Pine as such will not help you. It does not do any preprocessing of incoming mail. However, there are tools which will do the job ahead of Pine, provided you have a reliable method for identifying the mail you want to trash-can. You mentioned Elm. Well, as I understand it, Elm's filter program can be used standalone to filter out unwanted mail before Pine opens it. On Un*x systems, procmail is also widely used for mail filtering. Nancy McGough as a lot of good material online about mail filtering. I never remember the URL, but I have a link to it. If you have a WWW browser, browse my home page and follow the links to Nancy's good stuff. By the way, I strongly recommend AGAINST bouncing spam and junk mail back to the sender. It may not do any good, anyway, if the sender is also prefiltering incoming mail, and it just adds to congestion on the networks. Either trash it outright, or complain to the sender's postmaster. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:15:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA22949 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA04189 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:11:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA04182 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:11:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNile-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 09:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: Confirmation of succesful delivery Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:55:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The Return-Receipt-To: header works fine, given the receiving system supports returning receipts. I have a question connected with this header. When I move to cursor into the To:, Cc:, Bcc:, etc. header lines, a menu choice of ^T - Go to addressbook is offered. This is not so for the Return-Receipt-To: line. Since I don't want to jam email systems with receipts, I only add my address to this header line in cases when I REALLY want a receipt. I'd like to add just the nickname which I defined for myself, but obviously this cannot be done w/o the ^T To addrbook option. Or can it? Thanks, - Hans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:22:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA22770 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA08066 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:16:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA08056 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:16:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNivB-00038TC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 09:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holeczek@clri6j.gsi.de (Jacek M. Holeczek) Subject: pine 3.95 MIME problem Date: 12 Nov 1996 14:17:01 GMT Message-ID: <56a0st$k8n@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> I have a problem with messages that come to me in form ( pine 3.95 ) : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From arab@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl Tue Nov 5 08:59 MET 1996 Received: from clri6a.gsi.de by rzhp9a.gsi.de with SMTP (1.37.109.10G/16.2) id AA184050762; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:59:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl by clri6a.gsi.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA156777; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:59:18 +0100 Message-Id: <9611050759.AA156777@clri6a.gsi.de> Received: by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA141610769; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:59:29 +0100 From: Andrzej Rabiecny Subject: dla Grazyny To: holeczek@clri6a.gsi.de (Grazyna Holeczek) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:59:28 +0100 (MET) X-Hpvue$Revision: 1.8 $ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Message/rfc822 X-Vue-Mime-Level: 4 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2989 Status: RO X-Status: The original text is removed here. So the Content-Length field is wrong now. Probably the original mail contains the correct length. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The problem is ( I think ) related to two fields : Content-Type: Message/rfc822 Content-Type: text Pine 3.95 thinks there are two parts : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 08:59:28 +0100 (MET) From: Andrzej Rabiecny To: Grazyna Holeczek Subject: dla Grazyny Parts/attachments: 1 Shown 136 bytes Message 1.1 Shown 0 lines Text ---------------------------------------- [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Note that it does NOT display the text of the message here. Then I try "View" and I get : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 136 bytes Message/RFC822 1.1 0 lines Text/PLAIN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I tried this on HP-UX 9.1 When I try "View" for #1.1 I get nothing on my screen ( [ALL of text] ). When I try "View" for #1 - in 30 percent of trials I get the text of this message on my screen, but in the remaining 70 percent of trials I get : [VIEWER command launched] Here are some details : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Details about Attachment #1 : Type : Message Subtype : RFC822 Encoding : 7BIT Approx. Size : 136 bytes Display Method : "cat < " Details about Attachment #1.1 : Type : Text Subtype : PLAIN Encoding : 7BIT Parameters : CHARSET = US-ASCII Approx. Size : 0 bytes Display Method : Pine's Internal Pager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The /usr/local/etc/mailcap contains : ----------- message/rfc822; cat % ----------- The /usr/local/etc/mime.types contains : ----------- text/plain txt message/rfc822 ----------- ( Nothing is defined for message/rfc822. ) Could anyone help me. Thanks in advance, Jacek. P.S. I think, I have also found a problem in .mailcap with Netscape : #mailcap entry added by Netscape Helper text/plain;;\ x-mozilla-flags=internal If I leave this entry in my .mailcap ( which was automatically added by Netscape ), I get always [VIEWER command launched] for #1.1 which is seen in this case as : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Details about Attachment #1.1 : Type : Text Subtype : PLAIN Encoding : 7BIT Parameters : CHARSET = US-ASCII Approx. Size : 0 bytes Display Method : " < " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jacek. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:15:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA11148 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA05743 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:09:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA05737 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:09:43 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr34.interl.net [205.244.161.34]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA21315; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:06:51 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA01187; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:09:01 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:08:59 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info cc: Peter Clifford Subject: Re: Moving Read Mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > However you can copy any settings you want to FORCE into place (so that > users can't override them) to a "fixed configuration file" > (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf/fixed). I think Mike make a slight, but important typo. That path should be /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMooOUiGB07hAGnFhAQHQ6AP+NCpfzLJWi5foBM9b3OCJizuS31UiDChW zwJRqq/TDeJTcbb2nrVLMNZR/wUBL73gDXXZbL1yHdeFOPAboHB+9Ys1J/rWh40v A5l02DvXZne/dvoXNnoRo8UpzsPb3bZDvEJIcmbsxmf5SfKN2upL9ACcTcLWhtBH iq8QKuJ0Ml8= =snXR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:22:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA24739 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA06036 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:17:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA06032 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:17:13 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr45.interl.net [205.244.161.45]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA21475; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:14:42 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA01452; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:16:52 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:16:50 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: "Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar" cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Newsgroups!?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > Can anyone please tell me how can I un-subscribe to all the newsgroups at > one stroke? > > Well, the story is, somehow the other, I have just become a member of all > the newsgroups. The quickest way would be to load up $HOME/.netrc with your favorite text editor and to remove them there. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMooQPyGB07hAGnFhAQHiGQQAxm1fxFM3rEFs1P78LMvPWJ7hjVRBR2fn afFCc6ec9V7VxAIWYo/AU8JskdrRbT1sTVSRREHensiionSxsCewp1NtQlSALRBg 6UdJQqVc0kEAds89MBJX78qbOt6oGpCS/YBtgsX+y+ARRW49g3IyIfhEOOv5LRgx LuDuPISlPwE= =Mqxm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:49:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA09640 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA06860 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:45:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.wco.com (shell.wco.com [199.4.94.16]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA06849 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:45:11 -0800 Received: from shell (redwood@shell [199.4.94.16]) by shell.wco.com (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA03292 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:45:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:45:06 -0800 (PST) From: Redwood High School Student X-Sender: redwood@shell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Automated mail system Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I would like more information on your automated mail return system. Thank you, Redwood High School. ======================================================================= Redwood High School Larkspur, California Marin County E-mail: redwood@wco.com OR redwhs@marin.k12.ca.us Check out URL: http://www.marin.k12.ca.us/~redweb/ <----- our AWESOME home page! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:54:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA24160 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA07075 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:51:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA07071 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:51:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNkN2-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 10:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Session Hangs with Alternate Editor Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 11:33:27 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am wondering if any other Un*x Pine users have experienced anything like this. I use Pine 3.94 under SunOS 4.1.4 with a DOS PC emulating a VT100 dialed into a shell account (C shell) via ProComm Plus v2/DOS. In place of the built-in Pine composer, I have specified as my alternate editor (implicitly) JOE v2.8. From time to time, when I go to reply to either mail or news, I get a session hang. I will fill out the headers and then move down into the message body. Pine generates the file on /tmp and invokes JOE. However, at seemingly random intervals -- I have not been able to detect a pattern -- as soon as JOE is entered everything locks up tight. The only way out I have been able to find is simply to hang up the connection and log back in again, a bit clumsy to say the least. These sessions lockups seemingly at random started all at once a couple of months ago. I have not myself changed the level of any of my software or made any configuration changes in any programs.. Before I rattle the cage of my ISP, I was just wondering if any other Pine users were experiencing similar problems. The lockup always occurs precisely when the alternate editor is entered. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:24:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA27861 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA13301 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:19:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA13297 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:18:58 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA24805; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:18:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:18:47 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar" cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Newsgroups!?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From your shell (not in Pine): rm .newsrc -teg On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > > Hello, > > Can anyone please tell me how can I un-subscribe to all the newsgroups at > one stroke? > > Well, the story is, somehow the other, I have just become a member of all > the newsgroups. > > Thanks, Dinesh. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:40:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA28120 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA13711 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:36:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA13707 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:36:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNlyw-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 12:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Mailing executables Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:55:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1996Nov9.204023.150560@forest> <569vk9$lsi@toolbox.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <569vk9$lsi@toolbox.rutgers.edu> On 12 Nov 1996 qman@lor501 wrote: > Paul O Bartlett writes: > >On 9 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > >> I was just wondering if there is anyway to send an executable through pine > >> so that when the receiver goes to read it, the executable launches. I am > >> not planning on doing anything evil, i am just curious > > I am not aware of any way to do this, [...] > The easiest way to do this (at least on unix) is a program called > "uuencode." But, this way assumes that the reciever has uudecode and > knows how to use it. uuencode may certainly be used to send an executable through the mail -- I have done that myself -- but that is not what the original inquiry was about. uuencode does not "launch" the executable: it just sits there, so to speak, waiting for the recipient to do something with it. Getting an executable to begin execution automatically when a recipient reads mail is an unbelievably awful notion that makes me shudder even to think about it. Fortunately, there is no blanket way to accomplish it, with Pine or any other mailer, that I know of, and uuencode has nothing to do with what the original writer was asking about. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:58:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA28354 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA10462 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:53:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA10458 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:53:35 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id CAA24303; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:21:49 +0530 (IST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:21:48 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Jason Englander cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Newsgroups!?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Thanks for replying. > > Can anyone please tell me how can I un-subscribe to all the newsgroups at > > one stroke? > > > > Well, the story is, somehow the other, I have just become a member of all > > the newsgroups. > > The quickest way would be to load up $HOME/.netrc with your favorite text > editor and to remove them there. I tried it. But unfortunately the editor is opening it as a new file. Thanks again. Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:10:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA29016 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA10815 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:06:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA10735; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:04:15 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id CAA19863; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:36:27 +0530 (IST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:36:25 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Terry Gray cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Newsgroups!?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Thank you for replying. > From your shell (not in Pine): rm .newsrc It worked very nicely!! Thanks. Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:16:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA28668 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA14645 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:12:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from knights.cc.ucf.edu (knights.cc.ucf.edu [132.170.246.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA14641 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:11:59 -0800 Received: from Pegasus.cc.ucf.edu(really [132.170.240.30]) by knights.cc.ucf.edu via sendmail with smtp (ident dem50401 using rfc1413) id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:05:39 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #14 built 1996-Oct-22) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:09:52 -0500 (EST) From: Dale E Mauldin X-Sender: dem50401@pegasus To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: dem50401@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i was wondering if you could help me out . i'm trying to send someone mail that has america online and the address ***@aol.com isn't working. what should i do to reach this address? the mail keeps returning to me!please help. thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:06:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA30343 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA12561 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:01:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA12557 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:01:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNnKd-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 13:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: changing "from" address Date: 13 Nov 1996 21:18:44 GMT Message-ID: <56ddvk$hcn@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <328A1B63.4DAC@grouplogic.com> Rob Newberry writes: >I have an account login of "rob", but I have an alias that I >would prefer to use as my "return address". That is, currently, >my outgoing mail says > rob@machine.domain.com >but I would like to change it so it says > robnewberry@domain.com >I already have the alias configured in sendmail so that if someone sends >mail to "robnewberry@domain.com", it will work fine. But I can't seem >to get elm or pine to let me set up my return address as this -- Eudora >on PCs and Macs allow me to. Is there some way to do this with either >elm or pine? Thanks! There is in fact an easy way to do it with elm (and a similar way to do it with pine, but AFAIK pine must be specifically compiled to allow changing your address). I'll give an exaple of how I do it with elm: On the machine I normally use elm on, lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de, I have the login name schwarz, so my "generic" address would be schwarz@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de. I do prefer however to use the address schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, so I created the file ~/.elm/elmheaders and put in the following line: From: Georg Schwarz I also put in Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de but that should not be necessary. The same way you can add other header lines like Organziation and so on. BTW, you can do similar things with nn and probably most other newsreaders as well. -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:26:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA30298 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA16637 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:22:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA16633 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:21:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNnek-00038UC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 14:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to .forward and keep a copy at the same time? Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:51:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5640r6$s7i@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5640r6$s7i@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Butch wrote: > I want all the email that's sent to my school forwarded to > my home address. That's easy, but I also want to keep a copy > of the email in the school... Well, it all depends on information which you did not provide. There are so many combinations and possibilities in the universe that there simply is no single answer. If the mail is addressed to a system running some kind of Un*x and if procmail is available on that system, then you can do what you want to do with procmail. There are other possible solutions depending on what your setup is. As such, your inquiry has nothing to do with Pine, which will not do what you want. (It was never designed to.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:11:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA30672 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA14242 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:07:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA14233 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:07:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNoKL-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 15:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Warner Subject: Re: Mailing executables Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:19:43 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <1996Nov9.204023.150560@forest> <569vk9$lsi@toolbox.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > uuencode may certainly be used to send an executable through the > mail -- I have done that myself -- but that is not what the original > inquiry was about. uuencode does not "launch" the executable: it just > sits there, so to speak, waiting for the recipient to do something with > it. Getting an executable to begin execution automatically when a > recipient reads mail is an unbelievably awful notion that makes me > shudder even to think about it. Fortunately, there is no blanket way > to accomplish it, with Pine or any other mailer, that I know of, and > uuencode has nothing to do with what the original writer was asking > about. Be careful opening attached .doc's in Word, f'r instance ... isn't that the macro-viruses' route? Takes more than pine, true. Eudora, now, I'd keep a close eye on that one. :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:53:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA00182 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA15190 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:49:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au (echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au [139.230.33.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA15186 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:49:50 -0800 Received: from home.burrow.com.au by echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id IAA24279; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:03:05 +0800 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 07:51:58 +0800 (WST) From: John Breen X-Sender: st9525cc@home.burrow.com.au To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Newsgroups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use Pine to read mail and news. The news I read comes from 2 servers, with some newsgroups being available on one but not the other. I want to be able to only show the newsgroups which are actually available on the appropriate servers, when I run Pine. For example, I use the servers news.cowan.edu.au and echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au Now, "outside" newsgroups are only available on news.cowan..., so a group like comp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usage would be found there. The other server contains local groups like cowan.extstudies.exams When I go to my news collections, I don't want to go to the list for news.cowan... and be offered newsgroups that don't exist there. Someday I will forget, and try to pick a group that isn't on that server, and problems will arise. Is there anything I can do to solve this problem? +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | John Breen | | Mandurah, WA | | Tel (Voice) +61-9-581-5424 | | Tel (Mobile) 0411-378-443 | | | | email: st9525cc@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au | | www: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/9812/ | | | | Wombat Computer Services | | "Our customers are the most important part of our business." | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:19:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA00533 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA19435 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:15:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA19427 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:15:19 -0800 Received: from default ([207.116.66.251]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA14031 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:15:13 +0000 Message-ID: <328A60F0.2F57@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:59:44 -0500 From: Marc Hairstone Organization: WorldTech X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: UUDECODE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I receivedmail with the explanation to decode the file use the UUDECODE program. What is this program, what does it do, and where do I get it? Thanks Marc H. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:26:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA00761 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA19666 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:22:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA19661 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:22:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNpVB-00038YC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 16:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Warner Subject: Re: Deleting spams in the Pine newsreader Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:27:34 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Ben Norwood wrote: > > Is it possible to 'delete' a spam in one newsgroup and have it automatically > deleted from the other newsgroups to which you are suscribed? > > I know several dedicated newsreaders offer this feature, but as far as I > know Pine [1] can't do it (yet!). > > Would it also be possible in future versions of Pine to have a feature which > allows you to 'delete' any articles in a newsgroup that have been spammed to > at least x other newsgroups? > I'd settle for only seeing crossposts the first time I read them. Even if they're not spam. -- Michael Warner warner@wsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:09:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA01983 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA20888 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:06:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bigdog.fred.net (fred.net [204.215.84.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA20882 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:06:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjj@localhost) by bigdog.fred.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA06337 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:05:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:05:42 -0500 (EST) From: Brian To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help with majordomo & Pine problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While running a moderated list on majordomo, majordomo sends all messages directed to the list to a Pine user which contain both the majordomo message and bounced message. However, Pine interprets majordomo's message as two seperate messages, when in fact it should just be one message--this must be because majordomo includes the headers for its bounced message and Pine interprets that as two different messages. It seems Pine doesn't notice the Content Length header in the majordomo headers. I've looked for a possible configuration option in Pine to correct this but have come up empty. Is there any way to correct this problem? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:09:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA00849 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA17324 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:07:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA17319 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:07:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNqGj-00038UC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 17:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: pine3.95, hpux problems Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:55:03 -0800 Message-ID: References: <56cmvp$ati@decaxp.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <56cmvp$ati@decaxp.harvard.edu> The first and most obvious suggestion is: Don't use NFS to access mail over the net, use IMAP instead. That's what IMAP is for. The problem is in file locking. It doesn't work over NFS -- or rather, it doesn't work reliably. Pine has a test to see if a file is NFS and if so it avoids doing file locking. My guess is that HPUX 10.10 breaks that test; probably the same way that Solaris 2.5 does. You'll be interested to know that SUN swears on a stack of bibles that they have fixed NFS file locking so it's just like local files, and thus it doesn't matter that they broke Pine's test. You can see for yourself how well they "fixed" it. You'll find IMAP to perform much better than NFS, and you won't have these locking problems. On 13 Nov 1996, Bill Mahoney wrote: > I have the following setup: > mail spool on an HPUX9.05 machine > client machine is HPUX10.10 > > The mail spooler is NFS mounted by the client machine. > When I try to read mail from the client machine, pine > hangs -- won't even give me the index of mail messages. > > On the server machine I get an "RPC_UNKNOWNHOST message in > the rpc.lockd.log file. > > Anyone have any ideas? -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:10:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA00545 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA20908 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:07:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA20904 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:07:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNqGZ-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 17:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: How to .forward and keep a copy at the same time? Date: 10 Nov 1996 15:18:15 GMT Message-ID: <564rnn$f0s@due.unit.no> References: <5640r6$s7i@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In article <5640r6$s7i@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, Butch wrote: >I want all the email that's sent to my school forwarded to >my home address. That's easy, but I also want to keep a copy >of the email in the school... > >Help! You can have more than one address in the .forward file, separated by commas, so put your school username there too, but prepended by "\", e.g. \butch, butch@home.address The "\" prevents the mail program from trying to use the .forward file again and going into an infinite loop.. For more about forwarding do a "man 5 forward" from the UNIX prompt. (Chapter 5 in the manual pages is about file formats.) Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:48:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA02505 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA21724 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:42:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA21718 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:42:38 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr47.interl.net [205.244.161.47]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA32234; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:40:04 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00335; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:42:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:42:25 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Jim Davis cc: pine-info Subject: Re: Newsgroups!?! In-Reply-To: <199611140054.RAA27203@lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Jim Davis wrote: > In article you write: > :-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > :The quickest way would be to load up $HOME/.netrc with your favorite text > .newsrc > :editor and to remove them there. > > oooooops... Thanks for the correction Jim. (Freudian slip: I was changing my .netrc on VT2 at the time) Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMop46yGB07hAGnFhAQGbVQP6A00mW+HBzlvYOcCzwQXPwCh9Kdy425fC mJPsZZBNbmh8vp+LUs33CgxY6xPgJLau7Et/o1qUt4wACmdr1rLYr7JqFu2/xNWm 2coLsXAQWT8pPxWTBmSjv/3NU5WyoNOKyvEx4hMJnEDa8P/rhbHIkx5DBfGb/uJ4 GsFUjOHipSM= =qusb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:37:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA03936 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:37:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA19896 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:32:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA19892 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:32:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNsV1-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 19:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmscully Subject: Christmas Wreaths From Maine Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:23:46 -0500 Message-ID: <328A82B2.4094@geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Millay family of Surry, Maine takes in war-damaged children from around the globe. The latest (8th) addition to their family is a blind 3-year-old girl from Nicaragua. To help raise money to save other children, they make and sell seasonal crafts. Below is a description and pricing for the Christmas wreaths they are currently making. Please help them by purchasing a wreath for yourself or as a gift. Thank you. You can print out the following and use it as an order form: Wreath #1: FRESH BALSAM FIR WREATH. 24" wide and 4" thick. Wreaths remain green and fragrant through the winter season when placed out of direct sunlight, indoors or outdoors. PRICE: $18 Wreath #2: FRESH BALSAM FIR WREATH W/ BOW. 24" wide and 4" thick. Simply decorated with a large red bow. Add your own decorations or enjoy the simplicity of the design. PRICE $21 Wreath #3: FRESH BALSAM FIR WREATH W/NATURAL DECORATIONS. 24" wide and 4" thick. Beautifully decorated with clusters of pine cones, berries, horse chestnuts, and a red velvet bow - the traditional Maine wreath. PRICE $26 Wreath #4: PINE CONE WREATH. 16" wide and 2" thick. Everlasting wreath from the forests of Maine. Patterns of Scotch-pine, white-pine and spruce cones, horse-chestnuts, acorn caps, and fragrant star anise, laced with dried white statice. Packed with fresh balsam fir, cedar and pine boughs. PRICE $36 Each wreath is carefully boxed and guaranteed to please you or the full purchase price will be refunded. A gift card with your message will be enclosed. Please Print: Send Wreath # ______ to: Name: ____________________________ Name: _________________________ Address: _________________________ Address: _______________________ __________________________________ ________________________________ City: ____________________________ City: __________________________ State: ___________________________ State: _________________________ Zip: _____________________________ Zip: ___________________________ Gift Card Message: Desired date of arrival: _______________________ Please list any additional wreaths on the back. Guaranteed Christmas arrival of wreath orders received up to December 12th. We will ship after that date only by your express request. Priced include U.P.S. delivery to the Continental United States. Please add $6 for shipments to Alaska and Hawaii. Please send check or money order to: The Millay Family RR 1, Box 750 Surry Maine 04684 Phone: 207-667-8331 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:55:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA04160 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA20212 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:50:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panther.Gsu.EDU (panther.Gsu.EDU [131.96.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA20205 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:50:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (gs04scf@localhost) by panther.Gsu.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA18582 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:49:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:49:55 -0500 (EST) From: Steven Charles Freedman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help please!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello my name is Steven Freedman and a student at Georgia State University. I dial into the pine system at GSU from my computer at home. My sister e-mails me attatchments and I cannot figure out how to view these. I would appriciate if someone would send me the procedures on how to view. Steven Freedman my address is gs04scf@panther.gsu.edu Thank you very much. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:23:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA04567 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:23:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA25285 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:18:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA25281 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:18:44 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA03665; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:50:35 +0530 (IST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:50:34 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Steven Charles Freedman cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help please!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, > hello my name is Steven Freedman and a student at Georgia State > University. I dial into the pine system at GSU from my computer at home. > My sister e-mails me attatchments and I cannot figure out how to view > these. I would appriciate if someone would send me the procedures on how > to view. While viewing the message please press 'v' to view the attachments. Hope this helps. Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:23:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA05101 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA21647 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:21:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from soback.kornet.nm.kr (soback.kornet.nm.kr [168.126.3.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA21643 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:21:04 -0800 Received: (from avanten@localhost) by soback.kornet.nm.kr (8.6.12h2/8.6.9) id OAA24195 for Pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:21:37 +0900 From: SunWook Chu (kornet) Message-Id: <199611140521.OAA24195@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Subject: unsubscribe To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:21:37 +0900 (KST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21-h4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:24:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA04667 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:24:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA25330 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:21:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA25326 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:21:54 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA11482; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:54:01 +0530 (IST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:54:00 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Procmail! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Can any please tell me what is procmail? Does it help in filtering messages to respective folders? Where will I get more information? Thanks, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:01:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA05713 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA22327 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:57:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA22322 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:57:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNunZ-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 21:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steven@oit.duke.edu (Steven McElwee) Subject: Pine 4.0 Date: 11 Nov 1996 09:01:10 -0500 Message-ID: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> I've noticed that some articles posted to this news group make reference to pine 4.0. I'm curious. What's the timetable for the release of pine 4.0? Is information specific to pine 4.0 available? If so, where? Note: I checked URL but didn't find anything specific to 4.0. TIA, Steven McElwee -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven McElwee | Email --> | steven@acpub.duke.edu OIT, System Admin. | <-- US Snail Mail | Duke University |------------------------|--------------------------- 417 North Building | (919) 660-6914 (Work) | (919) 660-7029 (Fax) Durham, NC 27706 | | (919) 971-0781 (Cellular) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:14:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA05710 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA26108 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:10:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA26104 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:10:04 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA09315; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:10:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:10:00 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Steven McElwee cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 In-Reply-To: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Steven, We don't have a timetable for release of 4.0 yet. Note however that there will not be very many new features in 4.0. Support for folder hierarchies is the main one. The primary objective is to adapt Pine to the latest "c-client" libraries that implement IMAP4rev1. This will provide a foundation for adding some new features later on that require IMAP4, such as disconnected operation. -teg On 11 Nov 1996, Steven McElwee wrote: > I've noticed that some articles posted to this news group make reference to > pine 4.0. I'm curious. What's the timetable for the release of pine 4.0? Is > information specific to pine 4.0 available? If so, where? > > Note: I checked URL but didn't find > anything specific to 4.0. > > TIA, > Steven McElwee > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Steven McElwee | Email --> | steven@acpub.duke.edu > OIT, System Admin. | <-- US Snail Mail | > Duke University |------------------------|--------------------------- > 417 North Building | (919) 660-6914 (Work) | (919) 660-7029 (Fax) > Durham, NC 27706 | | (919) 971-0781 (Cellular) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:44:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA05798 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA26552 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:38:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA26548 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:38:01 -0800 From: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 14 Nov 96 14:36:20 +0800 Priority: Normal To: "Mika Siiskonen" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Re: Local address pops to To-field X-Mailer: VistaMAIL for Windows - Version 6.3.0 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 20:45:50 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <328abde5279d008@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> > On 96.11.14 00:19, "Mika Siiskonen" wrote: > > Here comes some more details: > > computer is Sun Sparc Classic > and UNIX is Solaris 2.4 > > TERM=vt100 > my stty -a settings are: > > speed 38400 baud; > eucw 1:0:0:0, scrw 1:0:0:0 > intr = ^c; quit = ^|; erase = ^?; kill = ^u; > eof = ^d; eol = ; eol2 = ; swtch = ; > start = ^q; stop = ^s; susp = ^z; dsusp = ^y; > rprnt = ^r; flush = ^o; werase = ^w; lnext = ^v; > -parenb -parodd cs8 -cstopb -hupcl cread -clocal -loblk -crtscts -parext > -ignbrk brkint ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl -iuclc > ixon -ixany -ixoff imaxbel > isig icanon -xcase echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh > -tostop echoctl -echoprt echoke -defecho -flusho -pendin iexten > opost -olcuc onlcr -ocrnl -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel tab3 > > I am beginning to be quite sure that the problem comes with > my telnet-program or its settings. > I use NetTerm-program > Does anybody know what should the settings be ? I hope someone can come to your aid. I'm currently on the road will expensive access to my system. :-) Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:18:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA32115 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA26999 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:11:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA26995 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:11:04 -0800 Received: from graz.pseg.siemens.co.at (root@[10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24892 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:10:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from ws6a21.pseg.siemens.co.at by graz.pseg.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3 for ) id m0vNvwz-000Cl6C; Thu, 14 Nov 96 08:11 MET Received: from localhost by ws6a21.pseg.siemens.co.at (1.39.111.2/1.37) id AA098835369; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:09:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:09:29 +0100 (MET) From: Diethard Ohrt Reply-To: ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at To: Georg Schwarz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: changing "from" address In-Reply-To: <56ddvk$hcn@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Message-Id: Company: Siemens AG Organization: PSE TMN Graz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Nov 1996, Georg Schwarz wrote: [>Rob Newberry writes: [> [>>I have an account login of "rob", but I have an alias that I [>>would prefer to use as my "return address". That is, currently, [>>my outgoing mail says [> [>> rob@machine.domain.com [> [>>but I would like to change it so it says [> [>> robnewberry@domain.com [> [...] [>schwarz@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de. I do prefer however to use the address [>schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, so I created the file ~/.elm/elmheaders and [>put in the following line: [> [> From: Georg Schwarz [> [>I also put in [> [> Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de [> [>but that should not be necessary. [...] Also, if you set the user-domain in your pine setup, this will be used to complete your address -- and there's also the feature use-domain-only (or similar). But it is always a good idea to set the "Reply-To:" header. Cheers, Diti _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _ __------ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | -- \ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ |_ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | ___-\ o | _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ /_/ | | |__---| Steiermark - das gruene Herz Oesterreichs Styria - the green heart of Austria Styrie - le coeur vert d'Autriche =========================================================================== Diethard Ohrt SIEMENS AG / PSE TMN G1 ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at A-8054 Graz Austria Diethard.Ohrt@siemens.at http://www.siemens.at/~psem/pse/de/psehomep.htm =========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:39:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA06501 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA23666 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:32:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA23659 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:32:39 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id IAA00583; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:32:25 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id IAA01773; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:30:27 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:29:53 +0100 (MET) To: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Procmail! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: -> Hello, -> -> Can any please tell me what is procmail? Does it help in filtering -> messages to respective folders? Where will I get more information? -> -> Thanks, Dinesh. -> Yes, procmail is applicable to you if you use Un*x. Get the package from your nearest USENET comp.sources.misc or at ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz Hope,it helps Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:43:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA18817 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA27331 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:38:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA27326 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:38:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNwIY-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 23:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de (Joachim Schaaf) Subject: Re: How can I set the username? Date: 11 Nov 1996 15:09:20 +0100 Message-ID: <567c2g$2e3-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> References: <55vh4r$3cb-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Scott Buntin wrote: > On 8 Nov 1996 15:46:51 +0100, Joachim Schaaf wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I send and receive my email "offline" on my Linux PC (with sendmail and > >POP). The problem I have: the account names on my PC and at the provider > >are not the same. What I need is to set the user name (like the user-domain > >setting). > Have you tried setting > personal-name=yourpreferrednamehere > in your .pinerc? > -- > Scott Buntin Yes, it looks like this: personal-name=Joachim Schaaf user-domain=pu.nz.fh-koeln.de The problem is, that the personal-name is not the username (user@host). -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Joachim Schaaf @ home running Linux, what else? M$ sucks. e-mail: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de, Joachim.Schaaf@gmd.de http://www.dvz.fh-koeln.de/~bn500/index.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:44:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA05853 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:44:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA23746 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:38:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA23742 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:38:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNwLu-00038VC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 23:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Mailing executables Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:50:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1996Nov9.204023.150560@forest> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Nov9.204023.150560@forest> On 9 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > I was just wondering if there is anyway to send an executable through pine > so that when the receiver goes to read it, the executable launches. I am > not planning on doing anything evil, i am just curious I am not aware of any way to do this, but even if there were, it is an extremely bad idea. It is far worse than the desire of some people to put control characters in an email to cause special visual effects on the recipient's terminal, which is already a bad idea. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:58:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA06128 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA27534 for pine-info-out; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:53:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA27530 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:53:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNwXx-00038BC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 23:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine + News Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Dirk Allard wrote: > is it possible to delete news articles not only one by one but in groups > (defined by a range of numbers) or completely? Go into your configuration screens and read the online help information about aggregate commands. (There may be something about aggregate commands in the Help off the Main Menu, although I haven't looked at that in a while. It certainly never hurts to read it, though.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:36:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA31599 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA28060 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:31:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA28055 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:31:23 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id JAA09566; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:31:03 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id JAA02664; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:29:05 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:44:28 +0100 (MET) To: Brian cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Help with majordomo & Pine problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Brian wrote: -> -> While running a moderated list on majordomo, majordomo sends all messages -> directed to the list to a Pine user which contain both the majordomo -> message and bounced message. However, Pine interprets majordomo's message -> as two seperate messages, when in fact it should just be one message--this -> must be because majordomo includes the headers for its bounced message -> and Pine interprets that as two different messages. It -> seems Pine doesn't notice the Content Length header in the majordomo -> headers. I've looked for a possible configuration option in Pine to -> correct this but have come up empty. -> -> Is there any way to correct this problem? Thanks. -> I have seen a similar effect when sending a mail to my provider's "mirror" address. Mirror sends back a mail with the original mail in the body. Therefore 2 From lines exist, and pine gets the mail as 2 mails. Since I use procmail to filter all my incoming mail this effect vanishes. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:39:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA24118 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA28136 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:35:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mirage.irdu.nus.sg (mirage.irdu.nus.sg [137.132.19.24]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA28130 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:35:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (aaron@localhost) by mirage.irdu.nus.sg (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26767; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:35:18 +0800 (SGT) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:35:15 +0800 (SGT) From: Aaron Aw X-Sender: aaron@mirage Reply-To: Aaron Aw To: Pine-Info Mailing-List cc: Rudolf Kompf , "Dinesh R. Thakkar" Subject: Re: Procmail! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello, Is Pine3.95 able to perform any filtering without the use of external software such as procmail or elm filter? Thanks! Just Me, Aaron Aw - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- IRDU Webmaster, JavaTech Development Group Project Manager IRDU PGP KeyServer Administrator Internet R&D Unit Computer Center, National University of Singapore. email: aaron@irdu.nus.sg http://irdu.nus.sg/~aaron - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > > -> Hello, > -> > -> Can any please tell me what is procmail? Does it help in filtering > -> messages to respective folders? Where will I get more information? > -> > -> Thanks, Dinesh. > -> > Yes, procmail is applicable to you if you use Un*x. Get the package from > your nearest USENET comp.sources.misc or at ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as > pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz > > Hope,it helps > Rudolf > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMorZxVJOMVswgUgBAQGmFAQAtGT4m+1sPWgb4cFAaU+PjSCP3prGGHZz 0lIrmk641MIrBiDVoQHPCKL8gY/kYV7IHb+mvmfCpUkewFMrtVSbgYGddtjr473o OS8v3axF1sIf7V8XTdUAPjES3zMOQXJRHIB3Xjm3elLc3xqcEO4kA4QxH3wdpPIL UnAvl5JsItI= =cDnM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:49:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA07029 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA24618 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:43:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA24613 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:43:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vNxMx-00038UC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 00:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: newsgroup Date: 13 Nov 1996 18:03:55 GMT Message-ID: <56d2ib$lj3@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Allan D Greggs wrote: >I was reading that I should be able to subscribe to newsgroups through >pine and I was wondering how I would go about doing so?? Add the name of your local news server (a quick check reveals that 'news.ecn.bgu.edu' exists, try that) in Setup Config nntp-server. Also set the enable-8bit-nntp-posting option. Then quit and restart pine; you should now have a newsgroups folder collection. Use 'A' in the collection to subscribe to newsgroups. Greetings, Ørjan Johansen. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:26:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA07247 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA28706 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:17:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA28702 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:17:47 -0800 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbptt23661; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21241; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:19:33 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16122; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:16:57 -0300 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:16:56 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:51:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA27575 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA01410 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:43:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA01406 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:43:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vO144-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 04:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Weaver Subject: Re: setup printer Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:33:33 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: References: <199611070408.UAA09102@victor1.vv.cta.com> <5606ar$a6a@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5606ar$a6a@due.unit.no> On 8 Nov 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > In article <199611070408.UAA09102@victor1.vv.cta.com>, > Bob Kelley and Family wrote: > >Hello Pine-Info, > >I've got 3.91 (UNIX), and cannot get a printer option under setup. From the > >main menu, "S" takes me to setup, where Newpassword, Config and Update > >become available, but no Printer. If I press "P", I get an error message > >indicating that no "P" has been defined for this screen. > >I'd appreciate any help you can offer. > > Alas, that feature was introduced in Pine 3.92 at the earliest. Not so! I am using PINE 3.90 (unix), and it IS available on our system. Bruce Weaver UWB, Psychology pss091@bangor.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:52:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA32587 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA27746 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:43:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA27742 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:43:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vO15L-00038UC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 04:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dedek@lexis-nexis.com (Mike Dedek) Subject: Re: Configuration dilemma Date: 11 Nov 1996 19:38:49 GMT Message-ID: <567vc9$7au@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> References: <55vdn1$4lf@srv13s4.cas.org> In article <55vdn1$4lf@srv13s4.cas.org>, lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes: |> |> I have read the Pine readme, the FAQ, and the technical doc. However, |> I haven't been able to locate a description of where to specify during |> configuration that I won't be installing things into /usr/local, so that |> all the appropriate programs look in the right place for the help files, etc. |> From looking at what is generated during the build execution, it appears that |> via some flag notation I should be able to do this (boy, I sure wish configure |> was being used - I know how to use that - and I don't even need to know 3 |> character machine/os names...) but I am not sure what the specific format |> is. |> |> Could someone send me an example? |> -- |> :s Larry W. Virden INET: lvirden@cas.org |> :s <*> O- "We are all Kosh." |> :s Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should |> :s be construed as representing my employer's opinions. You need to change two variables in pine/osdep/os-xxx.h (whichever xxx corresponds to your system): SYSTEM_PINERC and SYSTEM_PINERC_FIXED should be changed to the location of the system-wide pine.conf files. Other than that the executables are self contained and once you build them, you should be able to move them anywhere and they'll work (providing libc.so.1 and libdl.so.1 are in the same place as where you built it). If they are not, changing LD_LIBRARY_PATH is probably the easiest way around it. I hope this helps! -Mike Dedek Development Services/Tools Lexis-Nexis, a division of Reed Elsevier PLC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:40:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA11699 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA04729 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:34:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA04719 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:34:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vO4fK-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 08:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Automated mail system Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:39:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 13 Nov 1996, Redwood High School Student wrote: > Hi, I would like more information on your automated mail return system. "Your" is whose, please? And just what do you mean by "automated mail return system? Just what does such a system do? I can think of different possible actions that might fit such a name. We probably need more detailed information before we can help you. The more detail you can provide, the more likely it is that someone can help you. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:48:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA10193 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA03327 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:44:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA03323 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:44:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vO5nB-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 09:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hakonarson RS Subject: ======> irc <====== Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:50:04 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could someone please issue a list of the different commands for the irc? Yours sincerely Ragnar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:32:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA16221 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA09147 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:24:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA09143 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:24:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vO7Lr-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 11:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: NEW signature file Date: 14 Nov 1996 18:16:28 GMT Message-ID: <56fnls$rvv$2@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , AERONUT writes: > to all: > > i am trying to create a signature file. can someone please give > me very exact details on what i should do. Also, please include the > information that i would need to add to my login.com. > > p.s all of this is running on a vms system I assume you are using Pine on a VMS machine (using login.com file). You can do these: 1. Edit a file (e.g. sig4pine.txt) in your login level, save it. 2. Add nothing in login.com. 3. In Pine (we have 3.91, but others should be same ... :-), do "s" and "c" to setup configurations. Go down to the "Signature file" line, and do an "a" to add value. Enter "sig4pine.txt" as the value. Do "e" to exit configuration and confirm the changes if necessary (3.92 or newer versions). That's all. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == Email: Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = WWW: http://uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews== == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:33:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA16251 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:33:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA09302 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:29:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA09295 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:29:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vO7Sv-00038WC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 11:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gtk@walsh.med.harvard.edu (Gregory Tucker-Kellogg) Subject: Strange lock problems in /tmp Date: 11 Nov 1996 16:44:19 GMT Message-ID: <567l53$pbc@mufasa.harvard.edu> A while ago I wrote about upgrading pine to v 3.95 on our Sun (SunOS 4.1). At the time I had the problem of a read-only INBOX which was fixed by following the suggestion of Mark Crispin, who wrote: > Second thing to try: as root, do: rm /tmp/.* Thanks Mark! Now I've installed pine for other users, and one of them just reported the same problem. I looked in /tmp, but *none* of the files there were owned by him. I noticed two old files, something like ---------- 1 foo cell 5 Nov 5 11:34 .706.11d33 ---------- 1 bar cell 5 Nov 5 12:26 .706.11c06 which appeared to have come from old pine sessions. After deleting these, the user in question was able to open his INBOX properly. How is it that a pre-existing file not owned by a user is able to affect that user's ability to properly open a mailbox lock? Greg -- Gregory Tucker-Kellogg Department of Biological Chemistry and Molecular Pharmacology Harvard Medical School, Boston MA 02115 "Mojo Dobro" Finger for PGP info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:33:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA16317 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA06208 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:29:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA06201 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:29:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vO7Pn-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 11:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Deleting spams in the Pine newsreader Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:20:55 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Ben Norwood wrote: > Is it possible to 'delete' a spam in one newsgroup and have it automatically > deleted from the other newsgroups to which you are suscribed? > > I know several dedicated newsreaders offer this feature, but as far as I > know Pine [1] can't do it (yet!). > [...] You are correct: Pine cannot do this. Pine does not do any preprocessing of news or mail. Some day it may, but some day is not here. However, Pine makes use of the same .newsrc file (on Un*x) that other newsreaders do, so it is possible to fake your way around the situation if one of those newsreaders is also installed on your system. For example, I follow a couple of newsgroups which -- sigh! -- get a lot of heavy crossposting. I run trn in a sort of batch mode with a script which uses trn killfiles to update my .newsrc so that when I start Pine, I only see a crosspost in one newsgroup and not the other. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than nothing. (I kill on some othe criteria, as well.) As for spam, the technique will work provided you have a reliable way of identifying spam at all so that you can put it in a killfile. You also have to have another newsreader available and learn a minimal amount about it. Lack of killfiles, many people think, is one of Pine's biggest functional shortcomings. I agree. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:43:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA15328 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA06507 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:39:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from SYSH.BELCAN.COM (sysh.belcan.com [192.131.246.207]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA06497 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:39:24 -0800 Received: from belrs.belcan.com by SYSH.BELCAN.COM via Pony Express SMTP with TCP (v9.5.0-moe002); Thu, 14 Nov 96 14:39:26 EST Received: from localhost by belrs.belcan.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.04) id AA33056; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:41:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:41:56 -0500 (EST) From: Thom Scott To: Pine Information Subject: ESCAPING A COMMAND Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Occasionally when I try to read news from our news server which is a remote machine I run into a problem. If the news server is down for some reason or a connection cannot be made PINE seems to lock up at least until the connection attempt times out. Is there some way to cancel such a command should I experience a delay without having to just wait for Pine to give up trying? I'm sure there must be something I'm overlooking. ****************************************************************************** * Thom Scott --- MIS Belcan Staffing Services Cincinnati, Ohio * * (513) 489-4300 ext.138 GO BUCKEYES! trs@belrs.belcan.com * ****************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:09:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA11886 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA07139 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:04:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA07135 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:04:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vO81I-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 12:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rameshg@Sun.COM (Ramesh Gunna) Subject: Re: Suppressing recipients e-mail addresses Date: 14 Nov 1996 18:05:21 GMT Message-ID: <56fn11$jo9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <1996Nov13.144113.150885@forest> Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On 13 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: : > I often have to mail one letter out to many people. But what I want to : > know, is there a way to suppress the recipients e-mail addresses, so that : > anyone who receives the message will not know who else it was sent to? : Depending on how current your version of Pine is, you can do one : and maybe two different things. In any case, you can put the list of : recipient addresses (using a nickname, if you have one) in the Bcc: : header field. In that case, _be_sure_ to put *something* in the To: : field, such as your own address (you have to "fake out" the mailing : system). If you have a later version of Pine, you can use the Lcc: : header field. Both of these should be amply explained in the online : help. (Use ^R to get "Rich Headers" if you need to in order to use : these fields.) : Paul : ---------------------------------------------------------- : Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA : Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key : Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart As a follow up on this topic, is it perfectly legal & ethical to supress the recipients address in a mailing list. I would like to know what others think. -- regards, Ramesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:50:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA18149 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA11255 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:44:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.3.53]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA11251 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:44:10 -0800 Received: from uhunix4.its.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.54]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <586889(7)>; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:43:37 -1000 Received: from localhost by uhunix4.its.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <216711>; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:43:31 -1000 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:43:26 -1000 From: Genel M Uehara X-Sender: genelu@uhunix4 To: world-wide usenet newsgroup Subject: (Fwd) New virus on the Internet! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 03:36:10 -1000 From: "Julienne K. Maeda" To: genelu@hawaii.edu Subject: (Fwd) New virus on the Internet! (fwd) >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:22:56 -0500 (EST) >Reply-To: obryant.2@osu.edu >Sender: owner-SESGTAS@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu >X-PH: V4.4@lists >From: obryant.2@osu.edu (Camille O'Bryant) >To: sesgtas@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu >Subject: (Fwd) New virus on the Internet! (fwd) >X-Sender: cobryant@pop.service.ohio-state.edu >X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN > >Hello there! >>> >>>Chanel forwarded some information to me about a new virus that we should= be >>aware of. I thought it would be helpful if I pass it along to you all. >>Please let others know. >>> >>>Camille >>> >>>p.s. thanks Chanel. >>> >>>>>The following is an e-mail I received from someone at the School of >>>>>Management at Rutgers University. The message had been forwarded from >>>>>quite a few credible organizations,including Rutgers, so I'm going to >>>>>assume this is a real scare. >>>>>Prof. Shields >>>>> >>>>>>>>Subject: New virus. >>>>>> >>>>>>Here's a warning you should be aware of: >>>>>>There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If = you >>>>>>receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Irina", DO NOT read = the >>>>>>message, DELETE it immediately. Some >>>>>>miscreant is sending e-mail under the title"Irina". If you receive th= is >>>>>>mail or file, Do NOT DOWNLOAD IT! It has a virus that rewrites your h= ard >>>>>>drive, obliterating anything on it. >>>>>> >>>>>>What makes this virus so terrifying is the fact that no program needs= be >>>>>>exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It can be spread through= the >>>>>>existing e-mail systems of the Internet. Once a computer is infected,= one >>>>>>of several things can happen. If the computer contains a hard drive, = that >>>>>>will most likely be destroyed. If the program is not stopped, the >>>>>>computer's processor will be placed in an nth-complexity infinite bin= ary >>>>>>loop - which can severely damage the processor if left running that way too >>>>>>long. Unfortunately, most novice computer users will not realize what= is >>>>>>happening until it is far too late. >>>>>>Luckily, there is one sure means of detecting what is now known as Ir= ina >>>>>>virus. It always travels to new computers the same way: In a text e-m= ail >>>>>>message with the subject >>>>>>line reading simply "Irina". >>>>>> >>>>>>Avoiding infection is easy once the file has been received - not reading >>>>>>it. The act of loading the file into the mail server's ASCII buffer c= auses >>>>>>the "Irina" mainline program to initialize and execute. Warn your fri= ends >>>>>>and local system users of this newest threat to thier computer system= ! It >>>>>>could save them a lot of time and money. This virus is almost identical to >>>>>>the "Good Times" virus that was plaguing the Internet about a year an= d a >>>>>>half ago. BE ADVISED that although it is currently only reported on = the >>>>>>Internet, this virus will undoubtedly work its way into local bulleti= n >>>>>>boards and other On-line services, >>>>>>AND BE SURE TO TELL YOUR KIDS IF THEY DO ANYTHING ON THE >>>>>>MODEM TO BE ALERT FOR THIS! >>>>>>So let me know if you come across it, and be sure to pass the message on to >>>>>>friends, family, associates, etc. Take care and I'll talk to you soon= =2E >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >>>> @ Chan=E9l L. King @ >>>> @ Sport Management Graduate Program @ >>>> @ The Ohio State University @ >>>> @ *Making it Happen* @ >>>> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Camille O'Bryant, Ph.D. >Assistant Professor >School of Physical Activity and Educational Services >347 Larkins Hall - 337 W. 17th Avenue >Columbus, OH 43210 >614-292-0867 >614-688-3432 (FAX) >obryant.2@osu.edu > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:06:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA18523 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA11661 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:59:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PEAK.ORG (PEAK.ORG [198.68.22.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA11654 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:58:58 -0800 Received: from [205.247.120.213] ([205.247.120.213]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.13/8.6.7) id MAA20716; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:58:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199611142058.MAA20716@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 15:58:23 -0500 To: Genel M Uehara Subject: Re: (Fwd) New virus on the Internet! (fwd) cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu References: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Genel M Uehara Original Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:43:26 -1000 Message-ID: You aren't serious, are you? A virus that comes across an email message? Really? How does it execute? Hmm? The "Good Times" virus was a hoax, and the same tired old plot now lives on with "Irina". Plain and simple: if you don't run the program, it can't touch your system. If someone mails you an executable, don't run it. Simply downloading your email will do nothing. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:07:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA18529 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:07:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA11757 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:01:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dc.isx.com (mole.dc.isx.com [205.138.218.44]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA11753 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:01:43 -0800 Received: from euclid ([205.138.218.51]) by dc.isx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09390; Thu, 14 Nov 96 16:00:54 EST Message-Id: <328B88A3.7267@dc.isx.com> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:01:23 -0500 From: Murtaza Kamal Organization: ISX Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe mkamal@dc.isx.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:38:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA12068 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA12623 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:34:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA12619 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:34:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vO9Ms-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 13:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qman@lor501 (dave) Subject: Re: A Wish for the Folks at PINE Date: 11 Nov 1996 15:54:08 -0500 Message-ID: <5683pg$ff6@toolbox.rutgers.edu> References: <55nv4c$fir@news1.epix.net> <55out0$nmg@netnews.upenn.edu> hchapman@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Speed Racer) writes: >For some reason that doesn't exist in any of the versions we've had here >and I'm using 3.95. We are rutgers have 3.95, and there is no w at the bottom. However, if you do what was suggested, you will get another menu. The rest is self explanatory. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:56:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA20891 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA14444 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:52:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tiger.lsu.edu (tiger4.ocs.lsu.edu [130.39.174.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA14434; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:52:46 -0800 Received: from localhost by tiger.lsu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA86056; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:52:35 -0600 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:52:35 -0600 (CST) From: Paul Daniel Zomerdijk To: pine@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Can I get, or suggest, graphics? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know that at some universities, such as Tulane -where the Kermit system is used- students are able to receive graphics through the use of Netscape Navigator. I have used this program this past summer, when a friend of mine had a student account there. I would like to know if Pine had the same type of program where I, as a student with a Pine account, can link the Netscape Navigator program to my student account and receive graphics. If there is such a way, and I believe our library uses this method, will you please send that information here, so that I can use the Netscape Navigator in conjuction with pine to get graphics. If there is no way for indevidual students to use this technology, I would like to suggest that Pine model itself more after the highly successfull Kermit system. Thank you, Paul Z. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:48:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA18973 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA12895 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:45:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA12883 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:45:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOBSc-00038UC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 15:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbgeo002@huey.csun.edu (jeffrey trust) Subject: Re: Suppressing recipients e-mail addresses References: <1996Nov13.144113.150885@forest> Message-ID: <328a5a9a.0@newz.csun.edu> Date: 13 Nov 96 23:32:42 GMT Reginald N Patton (rnp@mdtsoft.com) wrote: > Use the bcc(blind carbon copy): option. Place the users names on the bcc: > line and the recipients addresses(other than any addresses that you might > put on the to line) will be undisclosed. To get the bcc: option, while in the header part of your new composition (where the to: line is, for instance) do ctrl-R . Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Trust (jtrust@csun.edu). Student, Dept. of Geological Sciences, California State University, Northridge (for which I don't speak). "The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves." -John Muir http://www.csun.edu/~hbgeo002/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:50:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA23393 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA17400 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:45:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA17396 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:45:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOCLD-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 16:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Deleting spams in the Pine newsreader Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:54:03 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to 'delete' a spam in one newsgroup and have it automatically deleted from the other newsgroups to which you are suscribed? I know several dedicated newsreaders offer this feature, but as far as I know Pine [1] can't do it (yet!). Would it also be possible in future versions of Pine to have a feature which allows you to 'delete' any articles in a newsgroup that have been spammed to at least x other newsgroups? -- _ / | __ __ Web: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 /-< /_/ / / Email: bdn5@aber.ac.uk /__/ /_ / / Finger: bdn5@osfb.aber.ac.uk [1] I'm using v3.95 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:57:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA20371 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA14747 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:55:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA14743 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:55:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOCYO-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 16:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tomj@accudata.com Subject: HELP SCO Unix dummy wants pine Date: 15 Nov 1996 00:23:54 GMT Message-ID: <56gd6q$pbp@noc1.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please help a poor dummy - I want to install pine on SCO Unix but cannot penetrate the mysteries of the distribution and installation process. Your help, phrased in simple terms (like copy this, type this) would be very much appreciated tomj@accudata.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:35:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA24187 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA19536 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:30:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA19532 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:30:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOE0E-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 18:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cain@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Subject: How to cancel pine posted news? Date: 13 Nov 1996 12:52:22 GMT Message-ID: <56cga6$nlt@news.fsu.edu> Sometimes I wish to cancel an article I have posted. This is easy using rn with the C command. However, I see no way to do that in pine. Worse still, when I go to an article I have posted from pine, rn thinks I did not post it and will not let me cancel. It seems to think I am another poster. Any way around this? Joseph Cain cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 (904) 385-0227 (residence) http://geomag.gfdi.fsu.edu/~cain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:23:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA10059 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA20348 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:19:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nfinity.com (nfinity.nfinity.com [206.101.78.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA20344 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:19:32 -0800 Received: from dot.dot.net (root@ppp60.nfinity.com [206.101.78.99]) by nfinity.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA24663 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:38:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:18:49 -0600 (CST) From: Tim Russell X-Sender: root@dot.dot.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: News Authentication Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does pine 3.95 currently support news authentication? And if not, is this an upcoming feature? Thanks... Tim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:36:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA23651 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA17473 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:31:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA17469 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:30:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOEvD-00038BC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 19:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wfp5p@virginia.edu (Bill Pemberton) Subject: Re: changing "from" address Message-ID: References: <328A1B63.4DAC@grouplogic.com> <56ddvk$hcn@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:49:07 GMT In article <56ddvk$hcn@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>, Georg Schwarz wrote: >I'll give an exaple of how I do it with elm: >On the machine I normally use elm on, lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de, I have >the login name schwarz, so my "generic" address would be >schwarz@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de. I do prefer however to use the address >schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, so I created the file ~/.elm/elmheaders and >put in the following line: > > From: Georg Schwarz > Be aware that this won't work at many sites that use sendmail. Sendmail is typically configured to overwrite the From: header. -- Bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:04:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA26158 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA21750 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:00:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA21746 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:00:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOGLA-00038UC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 20:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Strange lock problems in /tmp Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:38:43 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <567l53$pbc@mufasa.harvard.edu> The lock files on /tmp control locking between multiple copies of Pine or imapd (as opposed to the .lock files which control locking with sendmail). The /tmp lock files are assigned a name based upon the device and inode number of the file (to handle the case of hard links). This wouldn't have to be done if UNIX had real locking, but UNIX doesn't. A lock file with protection 000 (as in your example) is a bug. That should not happen in current versions of Pine, although some older versions of Pine had this problem. Were the files really from Nov 5, or were they much older? Does your system clear /tmp as part of its reboot procedure (it should)? On 11 Nov 1996, Gregory Tucker-Kellogg wrote: > Now I've installed pine for other users, and one of them just reported > the same problem. I looked in /tmp, but *none* of the files there > were owned by him. I noticed two old files, something like > > ---------- 1 foo cell 5 Nov 5 11:34 .706.11d33 > ---------- 1 bar cell 5 Nov 5 12:26 .706.11c06 > > which appeared to have come from old pine sessions. After deleting > these, the user in question was able to open his INBOX properly. > > How is it that a pre-existing file not owned by a user is able to > affect that user's ability to properly open a mailbox lock? -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:23:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA27102 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA23058 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:20:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA23054 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:20:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOHcO-00038VC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 22:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: cancelling articles? Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:13:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <199611071409.JAA20775@anon.lcs.mit.edu> <56aisj$cnb@hiway1.exit109.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <56aisj$cnb@hiway1.exit109.com> On 12 Nov 1996, Jeremy wrote: > pobart@access.digex.net (Paul O Bartlett ) wrote: > > [...] Send a > >blank (no body) post to the newsgroup(s) involved with the Subject: > >cmsg cancel > > > Since I have not had experience with cancelling news, I will > >cheerfully accept corrections or amplifications. > > You should have a Control: cancel header in there. In *addition* to the Subject: line to which I referred or in *place* of the Subject: line? Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:23:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA26714 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA19944 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:20:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA19940 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:20:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOHcS-00038WC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 22:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kford@teleport.com (Kelly Ford) Subject: Jumping to URL Date: 11 Nov 1996 22:45:12 GMT Message-ID: <568a9o$m55@nadine.teleport.com> Is there any easy way to jump to an URL mentioned in an e-mail message with Pine? It would be handy if you could have LYNX automatically go to web sites mentioned in a message. Kelly Ford kford@teleport.com See my home page at www.teleport.com/~kford/index.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:45:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA27629 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:45:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA23420 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:42:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA23415 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:41:57 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr38.interl.net [205.244.161.38]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA01564; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:39:24 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA02935; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:42:12 -0600 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:42:09 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Kelly Ford cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Jumping to URL In-Reply-To: <568a9o$m55@nadine.teleport.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 11 Nov 1996, Kelly Ford wrote: > Is there any easy way to jump to an URL mentioned in an e-mail message > with Pine? It would be handy if you could have LYNX automatically go to > web sites mentioned in a message. I don't know anything about the system you are running Pine and Lynx on, but over here under Linux, I'm running gpm. I've never tried it, but I'm sure you could cut & paste text from Pine on one console to Lynx on another. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMowQYyGB07hAGnFhAQFBygP/eHz66/UFV56TR1tgqSpDQJNu8V5Tt3xe kSBxGD08x/ucpVpp1ezbbHvhIWJboHXQRdl+Kp8XSnL3g8rpQKNZFpALST0zaV/Q hhlvmF8X+MSQ3N/GrtD5GIn/BGHx2RUmcCxT1wYXFMLd15RVQPVJshzcOHF7KkWL ViFKhlnBK4U= =a4IQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:50:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA27105 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:50:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA23475 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:44:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA23469 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:44:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOHuL-00038VC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 22:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John B. Kizer" Subject: Behavior of Pine 3.91 when replying to newsgroup message? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:55:29 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know what Pine does when it replies to a newsgroup message? Does it send mail to the poster and post to the newsgroup, or just post? Thanks very much. -- John Kizer jkizer@zoomnet.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:02:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA27767 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA20536 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:59:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA20532 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:59:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOI76-00038XC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 22:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Calguire Subject: Re: ESCAPING A COMMAND Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:04:21 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Nov 1996, Thom Scott wrote: > Occasionally when I try to read news from our news server which is a > remote machine I run into a problem. If the news server is down for some > reason or a connection cannot be made PINE seems to lock up at least until > the connection attempt times out. Is there some way to cancel such a > command should I experience a delay without having to just wait for Pine > to give up trying? I'm sure there must be something I'm overlooking. > I'd like to know about this, too. I'm pretty sure there is no way to interrupt Pine once it gets going with a task. I'd like to suggest that this would make a great new feature for the next version of Pine. Netscape has a "stop" button. Lynx has control-g. Pine needs some sort of keystroke that will interrupt searches, sorting operations, and remote folder lookups in the event that these types of activities take too long. -- _____________ /_____ _____/ Tony Calguire _____/_/____ / __________/ calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us ( (__/ /____ \__/ /____/ / / /_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:16:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA27526 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA23883 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:13:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA23879 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:13:24 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA06712; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:45:11 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:45:10 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Rudolf Kompf cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Procmail! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > > -> Can any please tell me what is procmail? Does it help in filtering > -> messages to respective folders? Where will I get more information? > Yes, procmail is applicable to you if you use Un*x. Get the package from > your nearest USENET comp.sources.misc or at ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as > pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz Thanks for the information. Let me explain the setup I use. I am using a DOS based PC system to call up at the ISP. As far as I know, they too are not aware of procmail. They are using a UNIX system. I access Pine and Lynx which is resident on the ISP's hard disk. How can I still use procmail? What changes will have the ISP do? Or can I do them for myself? I have access to the shell prompt. Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:24:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA28002 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA23999 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:21:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA23995 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:21:33 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA09613; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:53:44 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:53:41 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Newsgroup! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, At the selection of folders, when I am trying to expand the list of newsgroups, I am getting the following message - 400 - No Space left on device writing article file - throttling. The message would not go off even after re-selecting the newsgroup folder.I am unable to access the Newsgroups. What should I do? Thanks. Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:27:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA28040 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA20859 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:25:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA20855 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:25:06 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA03217; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:57:16 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:57:13 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Filtering. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, A suggestion regarding filtering. I understand that Pine does not have any inbuilt feature to filter messages as it does not know how mails are delivered on different systems. But is it not possible to write a function whereby which the filtering takes place after the messages are delivered in the INBOX? What I mean is, after the messages are received and stored in the INBOX folder, Pine can take over. Either we can have an option to do it automatically or manual, by a particular key press. Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:43:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA26897 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA24235 for pine-info-out; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:40:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA24231 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:40:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOIsl-00038UC; Thu, 14 Nov 96 23:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Weaver Subject: Re: Printing Mail on MAC Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:29:09 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Did you select the "attached-to-ascii" printer? From the main menu, press S for Setup, then P for printer, and then read the instructions. If you have not done this, you may be printing on a network printer somewhere. Bruce Weaver UWB, Psychology pss091@bangor.ac.uk On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Lenherr wrote: > I cannot get mail to print directly to my printer using "^Y". If you have > any ideas please help me. > > Thanks > Kenny > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:29:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA28767 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA21821 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:25:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA21817 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:25:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOJXm-00038UC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 00:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu (Bill Mahoney) Subject: pine3.95, hpux problems Date: 13 Nov 1996 14:46:17 GMT Message-ID: <56cmvp$ati@decaxp.harvard.edu> I have the following setup: mail spool on an HPUX9.05 machine client machine is HPUX10.10 The mail spooler is NFS mounted by the client machine. When I try to read mail from the client machine, pine hangs -- won't even give me the index of mail messages. On the server machine I get an "RPC_UNKNOWNHOST message in the rpc.lockd.log file. This all works fine if I use elm on the client machine. Anyone have any ideas? (besides switching to elm......) Thanks Bill Mahoney bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:04:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA15436 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA22290 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:01:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA22286 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:01:45 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:00:50 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA06009; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:00:44 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:00:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Tim Russell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News Authentication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Yes, Pine 3.95 does support "Authinfo" authentication to News Servers. It works for those servers that allow you to read freely but not post until you've authenticated, and also for those that require yo uto authenticate before even allowing you to read (eg, INN 1.4unoff3 onwards). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, Tim Russell wrote: > Does pine 3.95 currently support news authentication? And if not, is this > an upcoming feature? > > Thanks... > Tim > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:14:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA29030 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA22363 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:06:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA22359 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:06:31 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:06:21 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA07426; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:06:10 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:06:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Newsgroup! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" You should contact your local help desk for assistance. The message is coming from the Usenet News server software itself (Pine is merely relaying it to you). The message means that the News server's disk is full. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > Hello, > At the selection of folders, when I am trying to expand the list of > newsgroups, I am getting the following message - > > 400 - No Space left on device writing article file - throttling. > > The message would not go off even after re-selecting the newsgroup > folder.I am unable to access the Newsgroups. What should I do? > > Thanks. > > Dinesh. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:15:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA29039 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA25536 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:11:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA25532 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:11:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOKGJ-00038UC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 01:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Mailcap question Date: 14 Nov 1996 21:09:40 GMT Message-ID: References: <56d1os$l2q@due.unit.no> Rick, Thanks for responding. I had already tried what you suggested but after a few mails with David Miller (one of the Pine authors), here is what my problem was; My 'netscape' was not the ACTUAL executable but a shell script wrapper written by our sys-admins which did some house-keeping and and then invoked the actual netscape. But Pine launches it like this (netscape -remote .... ; rm /var/tmp/) So, you see, by the time the actual netscape is invoked, the file is GONE :) Duh.. I felt quite foolish at how trivial the solution turned out to be i.e. calling the actual netscape executable from my mailcap file :) Thanks, --Vikas On 14 Nov 1996 17:52:54 GMT, Rick Troxel wrote: >I think I got these mailcap entries by replying to the author of a post, >rather than seeing them posted here. I believe they will meet your >needs. > ># HTML Support, courtesy Glenn A Malling ># Try to use an existing netscape instantiation; if not, start one >text/html; netscape -remote "openFile(%s)" || netscape %s; \ > test=test -n "$DISPLAY" -a -z "$LYNX_VERSION" ># When display is not set and lynx isn't already running ># Don't know whether a URL can be passed to a running lynx instantiation >text/html; lynx -force_html %s; \ > test=test -z "$DISPLAY" -a -z "$LYNX_VERSION"; needsterminal > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:17:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA28311 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA22470 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:11:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA22463 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:11:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOKGQ-00038VC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 01:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Newsgroups!?! Date: 14 Nov 1996 21:16:16 GMT Message-ID: References: I have a sneaky solution to your problem which makes use of the format of your newsrc file. o Go to the .newsrc file in your home directory. By default, it is $HOME/.newsrc o Load it up into any editor. o Change all the ':' characters in the file to '!' characters.. o That's it. You are done.... Hope it helps, --Vikas vikas@insight.att.com On 13 Nov 1996 05:53:16 -0800, Mr. Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > >Hello, > >Can anyone please tell me how can I un-subscribe to all the newsgroups at >one stroke? > >Well, the story is, somehow the other, I have just become a member of all >the newsgroups. > >Thanks, Dinesh. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:17:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA29056 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA25542 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:11:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA25538 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:11:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOKI7-00038XC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 01:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: viewing html attachments Date: 14 Nov 1996 21:33:41 GMT Message-ID: References: Do the following: + Add the following to your $HOME/.mailcap file. ####################### # HTML document text/html;/usr/local/add-on/netscape/netscape -remote "openFile(%s)" || /usr/local/add-on/netscape/netscape %s ; x-mozilla-flags=internal; description="HTML document" ####################### + Add the following to your $HOME/.mime.types file ####################### text/html html \ \ type=text/html \ exts="html,\" type=text/html \ exts="html" ####################### And voila, you should be up and running. Let me know if you have any problems, HTH, --Vikas vikas@insight.att.com On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:17:21 +0000, Sing Yeong Kong wrote: >Anyone know how to view html text files using pine? >Thanks! > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 02:53:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA30388 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 02:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA23603 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 02:46:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA23599 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 02:46:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOLkJ-00038VC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 02:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scott@ucs.ed.ac.uk (Scott Larnach) Subject: Re: turning off MIME processing? Date: 6 Nov 1996 13:47:50 GMT Message-ID: <55q4u6$70j@scotsman.ed.ac.uk> References: <557oqt$p9k@scotsman.ed.ac.uk> Paul O Bartlett writes: >[ ... ] there is a >configuration option include-attachments-in-reply, which I think will >put all attachments into the edit workspace when you are composing [ ... ] If you have this set and you reply to a message with an attachment, the attachment is included in the reply -- as an attachment, not as part of the edit buffer, even if the original attachment was text/plain. So thanks for the suggestion, but this doesn't do what I have in mind. Scott From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:09:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA30292 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA27901 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:06:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA27897 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:06:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOMxY-00038UC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 04:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sing Yeong Kong Subject: viewing html attachments Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:17:21 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone know how to view html text files using pine? Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:00:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA30681 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA25218 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:51:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA25214 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:51:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vONf7-00038WC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 04:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Russell Subject: News server authorization via pine Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:32:08 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use a news server (news.zippo.com) that requires authorization to login. Because of the high overhead of tin , i decided to use pine. Is there anyway to specify a password/login/newsserver combo with pine? Will it read the .newsauth file that tin uses? Thanks Tim trussell@nfinity.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:55:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA31435 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA25928 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:51:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA25924 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:51:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOOfj-00038VC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 05:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: AERONUT Subject: NEW signature file Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:33:20 PST Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII to all: i am trying to create a signature file. can someone please give me very exact details on what i should do. Also, please include the information that i would need to add to my login.com. p.s all of this is running on a vms system reply to pxaypraseuth@csupomona.edu thanks in advance peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:59:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA31527 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA29161 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:51:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA29156 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 05:51:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOOfe-00038UC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 05:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sing Yeong Kong Subject: Lcc: Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:09:05 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Did anyone notice that when you use the Lcc: to post, you can't "reply to all". Is it pine or is it just my system here? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:07:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA31624 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA29300 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:03:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from SYSH.BELCAN.COM (sysh.belcan.com [192.131.246.207]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA29293 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:02:56 -0800 Received: from belrs.belcan.com by SYSH.BELCAN.COM via Pony Express SMTP with TCP (v9.5.0-moe002); Fri, 15 Nov 96 09:02:57 EST Received: from localhost by belrs.belcan.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.04) id AA39037; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:05:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:05:28 -0500 (EST) From: Thom Scott To: Pine Information Subject: ESCAPING A COMMAND Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Occasionally when I try to read news from our news server which is a remote machine I run into a problem. If the news server is down for some reason or a connection cannot be made PINE seems to lock up at least until the connection attempt times out. Is there some way to cancel such a command should I experience a delay without having to just wait for Pine to give up trying? I'm sure there must be something I'm overlooking. ****************************************************************************** * Thom Scott --- MIS Belcan Staffing Services Cincinnati, Ohio * * (513) 489-4300 ext.138 GO BUCKEYES! trs@belrs.belcan.com * ****************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:14:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA04580 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA29386 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:09:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA29379 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:09:08 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:48:32 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id NAA22933; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:48:26 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:48:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Tim Russell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News server authorization via pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Pine 3.95 supports news authentication ("authinfo user/pass"); earlier versions do not. It does not makes use of the .newsauth file; you must enter your username and password manually when prompted to do so. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Tim Russell wrote: > > I use a news server (news.zippo.com) that requires authorization to login. > Because of the high overhead of tin , i decided to use pine. Is there > anyway to specify a password/login/newsserver combo with pine? Will it > read the .newsauth file that tin uses? > > Thanks > Tim > trussell@nfinity.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:26:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA32081 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA29407 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:11:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from curie.pacific.net.sg (curie.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.90]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA29389 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:10:46 -0800 Received: from LOCALNAME (max77ppp36.pacific.net.sg [203.120.77.36]) by 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macro32@wkuvx1.wku.edu, mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu, lanworks@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu, decmcc-l@auvm.american.edu, cmu-openvms-ip@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu, info-multinet@tgv.com, wintcp-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, info-tpu@shsu.edu, vmsnet@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu From: Mark Christie Subject: Confession At Gun-Point By Mark J. Christie Mother! Please don't shoot! I'll confess! I'll confess! (Mark J. Christie's mother is pointing a gun at his head and threatening to blow off his brain if he does not come clean). Please forgive me Steven Esau (Steven is the general counsel of Asymetrix Corporation, USA ), my mom will be visiting you later. This is what happened and I emphasize this is the absolute truth. ***The Objective - Get Jeffrey Tay's software called KaiZenWare Jeffrey Tay created a multimedia authoring tool called KaiZenWare in 1993. However, he has not released it for a variety of reasons. This year (1996) we came to know about it and wanted to get hold of KaiZenWare but we did not succeed. He found a company interested in marketing his software but we sabotaged him by telling that company that KaiZenWare violates Asymetrix's copyright without even seeing KaiZenWare (remember he refused to let go of his software). Details of this can be found at: http://www.ets.bris.ac.uk/comments/21612.htm. The question is: How to get hold of Jeffrey's Tay software called KaiZenWare? We hatched out a plot to lure him to release his software called KaiZenWare. This is how the plot works: Stage 1 we gave him a letter from Steven Esau, general counsel of Asymetrix Corporation, USA which authorized him to distribute his software called KaiZenWare. Stage 2 we waited for him to fall for our trap. He started marketing his software called KaiZenWare on the Internet in Aug 1996 and we proceeded to download a copy for our own reference so that we can copy his ideas. Stage 3 whenever someone enquired about KaiZenWare we will tell them that it is illegal (members of the ToolBook mailing list have been told in Aug 1996 that it is illegal) and we refuse to acknowledge the fact that KaiZenWare is an exception and that Steven Esau has indeed sent Jeffrey Tay a letter to authorize the distribution of KaiZenWare. Stage 4 we keep totally quiet about this dual-reality. Jeffrey Tay is the only one who knows of the letter from Steven Esau. Jeffrey Tay does not know that members of the ToolBook mailing list thinks it is illegal. Jeffrey Tay does not know that we spread words that it is illegal. Stage 5 we will carry on this charade and will ensure that nobody buys KaiZenWare because they think it is illegal. Jeffrey Tay can spend the rest of his life wasting time and money marketing KaiZenWare but nobody will buy because they think it is illegal. Unfortunately, Jeffrey Tay found out and complained to members of the ToolBook mailing list. Our good friend who owns the list speedily arranged to forbid Jeffrey Tay from posting articles to members of this list even though he has just subscribed to the list. The idea is to gag Jeffrey Tay and to let everyone else say bad things about KaiZenWare and Jeffrey Tay and ensuring that Jeffrey Tay does not have a chance to ask questions and answer questions. Is this cruel? This is the world of business and it is necessarily dirty and cruel. I have no sympathy for Jeffrey Tay because I also want to copy his ideas. I also want to make lots of money. Who cares about Jeffrey Tay even though his software called KaiZenWare was developed and tested in 1993? Jeffrey Tay's job is to prove that his software is good and then our job is to steal his idea and prevent him from selling KaiZenWare by sabotaging him secretly. Please broadcast this message to everyone on the Internet. Jeffrey Tay is a one-man show working from home and he needs all the help he can get. Steven Esau has to answer one question: Did he send a letter to Jeffrey Tay authorizing Jeffrey Tay to distribute KaiZenWare? Thank you. P.S. To find out about KaiZenWare, use Excite and HotBot and use "kaizenware" as the keyword to search the database. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:16:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA03275 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA03819 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:07:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA03815 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:07:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOSdv-00038YC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 10:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Pine & 1/2 News Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:18:49 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56d3fn$9en@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <56d3fn$9en@bigboote.WPI.EDU> On 13 Nov 1996, Paul English wrote: > > I'd [...] like to be able to simply post from pine by using rich > headers [without using pine to read news]. If you set up the nntp-host, but have no news collection then all should be exactly they way that you want it. > It doesn't look like this can be done from the config file, since as soon > as it's aware of an nntp server, it becomes fully news-aware. I believe that it can be done, but I have to admit that I haven't tested. If it doesn't work, you could always try to force the news-collection to something like /dev/null. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:19:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA03645 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA01043 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:07:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from 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music-research@prg.oxford.ac.uknewprod-request@chinacat.unicom.com, acm-l@kentvm.kent.edu, eff-news@eff.org, eff-talk@eff.org, coherent@vma.cc.nd.edu, cpm-l@vm.its.rpi.edu, linux-admin@SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU, linux-announce@SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU, linux-devel@SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU, linux-help@SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU, linux-misc@SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU, info-minix@udel.edu, 4dos@vma.cc.nd.edu, info-vax@sri.com, litprog@shsu.edu, kerberos@athena.mit.edu, tcp-ip@nic.ddn.mil, pcip@list.nih.gov, res-japan-group@cs.arizona.edu, risks@csl.sri.com, comsoc@auvm.american.edu, tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu, comp-privacy@pica.army.mil, nextstep@vma.cc.nd.edu, sas-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu, spssx-l@uga.cc.uga.edu, wavefr-l@psuvm.psu.edu, unix-sources@arl.army.mil, unix-sources@pa.dec.com, zforum@comlab.ox.ac.uk, csys-ami%mainecs@cunyvm.cuny.edu, ami-hard%mainecs@cunyvm.cuny.edu, ami-tech%mainecs@cunyvm.cuny.edu, apollo@umix.cc.umich.edu, info-apple@apple.com, info-atari8-request@pine.cse.nau.edu, info-atari16-request@pine.cse.nau.edu, hp3000-l@utcvm.utc.edu, micro-l@vm.its.rpi.edu, next-advocacy-d@antigone.com, next-announce-d@antigone.com, next-bugs-d@antigone.com, next-hardware-d@antigone.com, next-marketplace-d@antigone.com, next-misc-d@antigone.com, next-programmer-d@antigone.com, next-software-d@antigone.com, next-sysadmin-d@antigone.com, info-tahoe@csd1.milw.wisc.edu, info-1100@archive.cis.ohio-state.edu, info-terms@mc.lcs.mit.edu, dtp-l@antigone.com, info-tex@shsu.edu, solaris@vma.cc.nd.edu, virus-l@lehigh.edu, interviews@interviews.stanford.edu, xpert@x.org, xannounce@x.org, info-gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-bash@prep.ai.mit.edu, info-gnu-chess@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-gnu-chess@prep.ai.mit.edu, info-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu, info-gnews@ics.uci.edu, info-gnus-english@cis.ohio-state.edu, help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu, gnu-emacs-sources@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-vm@uunet.uu.net, info-vm@uunet.uu.net, vms-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu, info-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu, help-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-lib-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu, info-gcc@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-gcc@prep.ai.mit.edu, help-gcc@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-gdb@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-ghostscript@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-groff@prep.ai.mit.edu, gnu-misc-discuss@cis.ohio-state.edu, bug-gnu-smalltalk@prep.ai.mit.edu, bug-gnu-utils@prep.ai.mit.edu, emerg-l@vm.marist.edu, rferl-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, fedtax-l@shsu.edu, transit@gitvm1.gatech.edu, anu-news@vm1.nodak.edu, anime-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu, bonsai@cms.cc.wayne.edu, rec-arts-cinema-d@antigone.com, ballroom@mitvma.mit.edu, drwho-l@east-london.ac.uk, drumcorps-digest@cisco.com, sf-lovers@rutgers.edu, trek-review-l@cornell.edu, info-high-audio@introl.com, jewelry@mishima.mn.org, recipes@vistachrome.com, dipl-l@nda.com, hunting@tamvm1.tamu.edu, juggling@moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu, earlym-l@helios.edvz.univie.ac.at, love-hounds@uunet.uu.net, dead-flames@virginia.edu, synth-l@auvm.auvm.edu, phish@phish.net, sca@mc.lcs.mit.edu, info-hams@ucsd.edu, packet-radio@ucsd.edu, ham-policy@ucsd.edu, journal@airwaves.chi.il.us, radio-info@ucsd.edu, swl-l@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, nordic-ski@graphics.cornell.edu, ultimate-list@doe.carleton.ca, golf-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, videotech@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil, dbssat@vm1.nodak.edu, miscsat@vm1.nodak.edu, woodwork%ipfwvm@indycms.iupui.edu, airliners@chicago.com, scifaq-l@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu, fitsbits@nrao.edu, ecolog-l@umdd.umd.edu, ethology@searn.sunet.se, evolution@pogo.cqs.washington.edu, herp-l@xtal200.harvard.edu, pol-econ@shsu.edu, hydrogen@uriacc.uri.edu, nihongo@mitvma.mit.edu, aids@rutvm1.rutgers.edu, hspnet-l%albnydh2@cunyvm.cuny.edu, physics@unix.sri.com, fusion@zorch.sf-bay.org, psyc@pucc.princeton.edu, space@isu.isunet.edu, stat-l@vm1.mcgill.ca, edstat-l@jse.stat.ncsu.edu, chile-l@tamvm1.tamu.edu, scj@nysernet.org, nepal@mp.cs.niu.edu, scs-l@indycms.iupui.edu, vietnet@usc.edu, feminism-digest@netcom.com, gencmp-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, gen-fr-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, jewgen@gitvm1.gatech.edu, genmtd-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, genmsc-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, gennam-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, hist-sci@cshl.org, usnonprofit-l@rain.org, arms-l@buacca.bu.edu, bahai-faith@oneworld.new-era.com, bible-study@spss.com, tps-l@indycms.iupui.edu, vmsgopher-l@trln.lib.unc.edu, macro32@wkuvx1.wku.edu, mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu, lanworks@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu, decmcc-l@auvm.american.edu, cmu-openvms-ip@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu, info-multinet@tgv.com, wintcp-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, info-tpu@shsu.edu, vmsnet@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu From: Steven Esau Subject: Confession At Gun-Point By Steven Esau Mark J. Christie's mother visited me last night. Suddenly, she whipped out a gun and shoved it right into my mouth! She said: "Asshole, I don't like lawyers! They can't be trusted and you sure have no shit conscience lying and hurting an innocent young man. Do you remember Jeffrey Tay from Singapore? (Steven pretends he does not know and Mark J. Christie's mother thrusted the gun deeper down his throat!) As always, the coward finally confessed (after wetting his pants!). This is Steven Esau's confession: 1. I did send Jeffrey Tay a letter authorizing him to distribute KaiZenWare. 2. I did not announce it to anyone. The idea is to make sure that only Jeffrey Tay knows of the existence of the letter and nobody else needs to know. 3. When those folks at the ToolBook mailing list was discussing about KaiZenWare and about creating authoring tools using Asymetrix ToolBook, I simply kept quiet. Everyone had the impression that KaiZenWare was illegal. I didn't tell them that I have sent Jeffrey Tay a letter to authorize him to distribute KaiZenWare because I don't want anyone to know that KaiZenWare is an exception. 4. When he found out and joined the ToolBook mailing list, I simply refused to answer. Everyone on the ToolBook mailing list still thinks that KaiZenWare is illegal because we will never admit that we sent Jeffrey Tay a letter to authorize him to distribute KaiZenWare. Mark J. Christie's mother will be staying with me for the next few days. She said she does not trust lawyers and will hold me hostage to punish me. She specifically forbid me to change my pants because she wants that "thing" to rot and itch. Mark J. Christie's mother revealed that she spoke to Jeffrey Tay over the phone. She managed to persuade Jeffrey Tay to let everyone on earth use his software for FREE. Of course, voluntary donations will be appreciated. For those who want Jeffrey Tay to create a version of KaiZenWare to run on ToolBook 3, 4 or ToolBook II runtime, please send him a copy of your software and he will upgrade KaiZenWare for you for FREE. Please contact him in advance before you send your software to him. To find out more about KaiZenWare, use Excite and HotBot and use "kaizenware" as the keyword to search the database. Thank you. P.S. I am starting to itch in the you know where. Funny, my tongue kept snaking around the barrel of the gun; I think I am beginning to enjoy it! (the gun is still inside his mouth). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:27:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA06100 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA05686 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:20:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA05679 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:20:31 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id AAA02977; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:52:42 +0530 (IST) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:52:42 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Address Book and CC. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Can anyone please tell me as to how is it possible to send a single mail to all members of a paticular address book? How can one send a single mail to other using cc? Does it mean that I have to type in each and every address every time to send mail? Or is there a shortcut? Thanks for the help. Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:19:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA27752 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA06051 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:12:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA06047 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:12:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOVX3-00038VC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 13:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP help Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:48:43 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 12 Nov 1996, Jasper O'Malley wrote: > I hate to sound like a drooling idiot, but *are there* any decent docs for the > IMAP2bis server and/or c-client written by Mark Crispin (i.e. the one that > is distributed with Pine)? The README file says how to install it. It is designed to be plug and play; just install it and that's it. > I can't even figure out what the hell to put in > the imapd.conf file ;) Nothing. Don't use imapd.conf. You will just shoot yourself in the foot. The mere existance of a configuration file capability doesn't mean you have to use it. > In fact, I'm completely lost as how to the thing works, > and while I wouldn't especially mind sifting through Mark's volumes of code, > it'd be nice to have a tourbook along the way. Are you interested in funding such a project? I'm serious. Documentation takes a huge amount of time and effort. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:53:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA09189 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA07067 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:49:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eagle.ais.net (eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA07063 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:49:36 -0800 Received: from pfb.ais.net ([207.227.88.80]) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.2/AIS) with SMTP id PAA00917; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:49:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <328CE4E8.6C55@interaccess.com> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:48:03 -0600 From: Paul F Bergetz Reply-To: audigo@aol.com Organization: Alienconcepts X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: SCO PINE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would really appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction for getting a SCO pine binary. I have no compiler on the sco box. Anyhelp you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dave Burhardt ALSO please send EMAIL back to xeno@ais.net thankx. This is not my machine.. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:53:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA10316 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA10760 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:39:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA10754 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:39:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOWrb-00038VC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 14:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: Help: Decoding BINHEX Files Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:46:40 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, I didn't see your original post but it seems you are looking for a way to read Binhexed files. My advice: Get hold of a copy of the shareware program Winzip, version 6.2. There is a Win 3.x version and a Win 95/NT version. They can handle Binhexed files, in addition to several other formats which are often found in emails. Or at least, the online help says so. Winzip is available from http://www.winzip.com, and I found it worth the registration fee. - Hans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:54:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA09078 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA08230 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:39:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA08224 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:39:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOWrf-00038WC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 14:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Francois Babin Subject: How to use pine as a sendmail ? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:43:34 +0000 Message-ID: <328A24E6.681B@nt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, I just got pine 3.95 on HP-UX and it works fine. As a matter of fact, I want to use pine as an alternative for me to send email using an SMTP server since the sendmail command is not correctly set-up. So simple question : can I use pine as a command and avoid starting a pine session (like one would use the sendmail command)? Thanx a lot - francois From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:01:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA10550 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA08425 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:46:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (h141-206-15-5.NCR.COM [141.206.15.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA08420 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:46:45 -0800 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14347; Fri, 15 Nov 96 14:45:36 PST Received: from localhost by hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18422; Fri, 15 Nov 96 14:45:32 PST Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:45:32 -0800 (PST) From: Steven Feinholz X-Sender: sf3@hostsw7 Reply-To: Steven Feinholz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Steven Feinholz Subject: Clear Screen Capability (Pine on Unix) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use Pine as my email program on a SunOS 4.1.4 machine. When I try to use when remotely logged on from a different Unix server, I get a message saying: "Clear Screen Capability is required" Is this an stty setting I need to enable? If so, which one? I looked at the stty settings on the SunOS machine and it is not obvious to me. _____________________________________________________________________ ==== AT&T GIS | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 =--=== N | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 =--=== C | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 ==== R | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.NCR.com _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:08:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA10770 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA11270 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:02:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA11263 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:02:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOXGE-00038WC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 15:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:43:39 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Archive-name: mail/pine-faq Posting-Frequency: monthly URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html Frequently Asked Questions about Pine What documentation is available for Pine? The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive online help. Additional documentation, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, and information on where to obtain the software, can be accessed: * In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ * Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. + The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] _________________________________________________________________ Who should I ask for help with Pine? If you need assistance with Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using Pine. Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users. You may also be able to find the answer to your question through the Pine Discussion Forum -- see http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ _________________________________________________________________ Why does command X not work? Some of the Pine commands you may read or hear about have to be explicitly enabled in the SETUP CONFIGURATION menu, which is accessed from Pine's MAIN MENU, to be functional. For example, to be able to use the "Bounce" command, the following feature has to be checked: [X] enable-bounce-cmd and to be able to use the "Select"/"Apply" operations, you must first check: [X] enable-aggregate-command-set _________________________________________________________________ How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Once you have successfully set up your delivery filtering, you will have new mail arriving in several different folders, in addition to your INBOX. You can then access these folders just like any other mail folder. You can also define a collection of incoming message folders in Pine, through which you can then TAB to read new messages. For more information, see Pine's internal help on the enable-incoming-folders feature in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu. _________________________________________________________________ How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Config. Move down to the customized-hdrs option and read the context-sensitive help screen. _________________________________________________________________ How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Signature. The text you enter in the SIGNATURE EDITOR (new in Pine 3.92) will be appended to all messages you compose. _________________________________________________________________ How do I send a message to multiple recipients without showing all their names? In Pine's message composer, with the cursor in the message headers area, press Ctrl-R ("rich headers"). Then read the context-sensitive help screens for the Bcc: and Lcc: fields. _________________________________________________________________ How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment to a message I send? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to "understand" Pine's attachments. If the recipient of your message with attachment does not have MIME-capable email software, they should be able to save the attachment to a file and then decode that. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu//pub/mpack _________________________________________________________________ Can Pine be used with a POP server? As of version 3.95, PC-Pine cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. Pine for Unix can be configured to access the message INBOX on a POP3 server using the folder definition syntax {pop3server/pop3}INBOX where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server. However, this method accesses the POP server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between sessions. As an alternative, a program such as popclient can be used to download email from a POP server to a local Unix account, where it can then be accessed with Pine. One location from which popclient can be obtained is: ftp://ftp.mal.com/pub/pop/ Note: support for the offline mode of email access (using either POP or IMAP) is planned for a future release of Pine and PC-Pine. For a more detailed comparison of the POP and IMAP protocols, see Message Access Paradigms and Protocols at the URL: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.html _________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:35:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA08316 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA09485 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:29:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu (conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA09477 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:29:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (biehl@localhost) by conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06962 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:29:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:29:49 -0500 (EST) From: Erica M Biehl To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been experiencing problems with my e-mail. My screen continually shows that my sent mail has failed. Also, I am not recieving my incoming mail. This problem may be out of your control but, I would appreciate it if you could tell me why this is happening? Thank you, Erica Biehl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:02:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA10982 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA12538 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:56:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us [204.198.80.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA12531 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:56:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (cml3@localhost) by scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA24124 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:56:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:56:06 -0500 (EST) From: "C. Martin Lawyer" X-Sender: cml3@scfn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: e-mail problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't access address book, can't reply to old messages. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:45:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA05746 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA11195 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:37:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA11191 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:37:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOYkL-00038YC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 16:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pshen@library.berkeley.edu (Paul Shen) Subject: How does Pine separate messages? Date: 13 Nov 1996 23:11:34 GMT Message-ID: Hi Pine Users... Can someone tell me what Pine uses to distinguish between 1 message and the next. For example, if I were to type out 2 consecutive messages (header+body), I get one long text file. When I cat the /var/spool/mail file, it's one long text file, yet Pine can divide the text file into separate messages. I think this convention works for all e-mail readers...but don't know what it is... Any answer would be appreciated. Thanks. Paul Shen pshen@library.berkeley.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:50:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA13658 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA14797 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:42:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA14793 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:42:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOZiC-00038WC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 17:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Mailcap question Date: 14 Nov 1996 17:52:54 GMT Message-ID: References: <56d1os$l2q@due.unit.no> In-reply-to: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no's message of 13 Nov 1996 17:50:20 GMT In article <56d1os$l2q@due.unit.no> orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) writes: In article , Vikas Agnihotri wrote: [snip] > + Added the following line to my $HOME/.mailcap file >text/html;netscape -remote 'openFile (%s)' > > I used the 'remote' option because I want it to display the HTML >file in a already running Netscape process. Someone somewhere posted a script which would detect if Netscape was already running and start a new one only if it wasn't. That could be useful here. I think I got these mailcap entries by replying to the author of a post, rather than seeing them posted here. I believe they will meet your needs. # HTML Support, courtesy Glenn A Malling # Try to use an existing netscape instantiation; if not, start one text/html; netscape -remote "openFile(%s)" || netscape %s; \ test=test -n "$DISPLAY" -a -z "$LYNX_VERSION" # When display is not set and lynx isn't already running # Don't know whether a URL can be passed to a running lynx instantiation text/html; lynx -force_html %s; \ test=test -z "$DISPLAY" -a -z "$LYNX_VERSION"; needsterminal Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov http://www.dc-sage.org/bios/rick_troxel 301/435-2983 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:50:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA30723 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA12567 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:43:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA12563 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:42:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOZiv-00038XC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 17:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: PGP in Pine? Date: 14 Nov 1996 18:02:47 GMT Message-ID: References: <56e3hg$3kt@ms.mimos.my> In-reply-to: zarina@ms.mimos.my's message of 14 Nov 1996 11:26:40 +0800 In article <56e3hg$3kt@ms.mimos.my> zarina@ms.mimos.my (Zarina Musa) writes: I'm searching for pine which has support for PGP. Read somewhere that version 3.92 can ... does the latest version(3.95) also support PGP? Yes, and better (if I recall) than version 3.92, through the display-filters and sending-filters options. For instance, I use display-filters=_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ /path/to/slowpgp, _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----")_ /path/to/slowpgp sending-filters=/path/to/pgp -fast, /path/to/pgp -feast _RECIPIENTS_ where the slowpgp script is as follows. #!/usr/local/bin/perl # # filter for pine 3.93 and newer for decoding pgp mails # use this with the following in your .pinerc: # display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /home/roland/bin/pgpdecode # # $Id: pgpdecode,v 1.3 1996/05/17 11:47:30 roland Exp $ # # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld # 23.03.96 $TMPFILE moved to $PGPPATH. # 17.05.96 total rewrite in perl; many new features umask 077; $pgpout = "/home/rick/.pgp/pgp.tmp.stdout$$"; $pgperr = "/home/rick/.pgp/pgp.tmp.stderr$$"; $pgpfound=1; while ($pgpfound) { while (($_=<>) && !(/^-----BEGIN PGP/)) { print $_; } if (/^-----BEGIN PGP/) { $pgpfound=1; } else { $pgpfound=0; } if (/^-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----$/) { $pgpkeyblock .= $_; while (($_=<>) && !(/^-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----$/)) { $pgpkeyblock .= $_; } $pgpkeyblock .= $_; open(SAVEOUT, ">&STDOUT"); open(SAVEERR, ">&STDERR"); open(STDOUT, ">$pgpout") || &abort("Can't redirect stdout"); open(STDERR, ">&STDOUT") || &abort("Can't redirect stderr"); open(PGP, "|pgp -kaf") || &abort("Can't execute pgp"); print PGP $pgpkeyblock; close(PGP); close(STDOUT); close(STDERR); open(STDOUT, ">&SAVEOUT"); open(STDERR, ">&SAVEERR"); open(PGPOUT, "<$pgpout") || &abort("Can't read $pgpout"); while () { print "| $_"; } close(PGPOUT); unlink $pgpout; } elsif (/^-----BEGIN PGP( SIGNED)? MESSAGE-----$/) { $pgpmessage .= $_; $pgpheader = $_; while (($_=<>) && !(/^-----END PGP (MESSAGE|SIGNATURE)-----$/)) { $pgpmessage .= $_; } $pgpmessage .= $_; open(SAVEOUT, ">&STDOUT"); open(SAVEERR, ">&STDERR"); open(STDOUT, ">$pgpout") || &abort("Can't redirect stdout"); open(STDERR, "| tee $pgperr 1>&2") || &abort("Can't redirect stderr"); open(PGP, "|pgp -f") || &abort("Can't execute pgp"); print PGP $pgpmessage; close(PGP); close(STDOUT); close(STDERR); open(STDOUT, ">&SAVEOUT"); open(STDERR, ">&SAVEERR"); open(PGPERR, "<$pgperr") || &abort("Can't read $pgperr"); print "| "; while () { print "$_|"; } close(PGPERR); unlink $pgperr; print "\n| $pgpheader\n"; open(PGPOUT, "<$pgpout") || &abort("Can't read $pgpout"); while () { print $_; } close(PGPOUT); unlink $pgpout; $pgpheader =~ s/BEGIN/END/; print "\n| $pgpheader\n"; } } exit; sub abort { local ($message) = @_; unlink $pgpout; unlink $pgperr; die $message; } # Local variables: # mode:Perl # End: Hope it helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov http://www.dc-sage.org/bios/rick_troxel 301/435-2983 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:51:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA13385 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA14803 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:43:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA14799 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:43:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOZkN-00038YC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 17:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Suppressing recipients e-mail addresses Date: 14 Nov 1996 18:13:03 GMT Message-ID: References: <1996Nov13.144113.150885@forest> In-reply-to: "J.Y.E. Tse"'s message of Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:13:10 GMT In article "J.Y.E. Tse" writes: Perhaps you would want to put your own e-mail address in the field "To:", also. If "To:" is empty then the whole "Bcc:" will be visible ... I heard that this is a bug in "sendmail". It is true? Old sendmails, when presented with a message without a To: line, would fill in an Apparently-To: line with the local recipients; and current sendmails can be configured still to do this. So the short answer is "yes." Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov http://www.dc-sage.org/bios/rick_troxel 301/435-2983 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:53:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA11225 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA12680 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:47:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA12676 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:47:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOZo1-00038WC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 17:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Weaver Subject: Re: need help with pine Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:27:25 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi Katherine: I think you need to be a bit more explicit about what you mean by exporting from a word-processor. Are you using FTP (or KERMIT or whatever) to transfer a document to your unix homedirectory? If so, are you then uuencoding the document before e-mailing it? You probably need to provide details of this sort before anyone can offer helpful suggestions. Bruce Weaver UWB, Psychology pss091@bangor.ac.uk On 12 Nov 1996, Katherine L Hart wrote: > I can no longer use quotation marks and apostrophes in the e-mail I send - > the program does not recognize them. This affects my livelihood. I'm a > freelance journalist and use e-mail to file stories. My local > access provider - the greater new orleans freenet - did not have any > advice. What can I do? Is it the character settings? How can I alter them? > I use a Mac Performa 475. This occurs with files I export from a > word-processing program (ClarisWorks). Thanks for reading this. > Katherine Hart > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:12:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA14088 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA16002 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:07:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (vtbit.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.247]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA15998 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:07:38 -0800 Received: from VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU by VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7608; Fri, 15 Nov 96 22:07:24 EST Received: from SAKACS00.KACST.EDU.SA (NJE origin MAILER@SAKACS00) by VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8905; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:07:24 -0500 Received: from SAUPM00.BITNET (NJE origin MAILBOX@SAUPM00) by SAKACS00.KACST.EDU.SA (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5975; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:08:22 +0000 Received: (from SAUPM00 for S <@SAUPM00.DPC.KFUPM.EDU.SA:s918160@dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa> via BSMTP) Received: (from SAUPM00 for MAILBOX@SAUPM00 via NJE) (UCLA/Mail V1.500 M-SMTP-7838-32); Sat, 16 Nov 96 00:10:12 SAT Received: from dpc.kfupm.edu.sa by SAUPM00.DPC.KFUPM.EDU.SA (IBM MVS SMTP V3R1) with TCP; Sat, 16 Nov 96 00:09:55 LCL Received: from dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa (dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa [196.15.32.8]) by dpc.kfupm.edu.sa (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17294 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:04:57 GMT Received: (from s918160@localhost) by dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA30529; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:06:34 +0300 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:06:34 +0300 (SAUST) From: "Al-Hussain, Bassam Maatoug" To: PINE-INFO%CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU%SAKACS00.BITNET@VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU Subject: NEED HELP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was trying to join any friendship club but i failed. So could u help me and provid me the comand or some e-mail for such club. aail foand nowwithout any ____ __ /__/-------- ----------------------------------- /____/assam Al-Hussain. s918160@dpc.kfupm.edu.sa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:27:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA14920 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA14763 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:23:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA14759 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:23:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOcDd-00038WC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 20:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:51:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Nov 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: > Please.. please.. tell me that Pine's 'N' part i.e. Usenet news reading > module has been enhanced. > More specifically, support for threading and kill files... This is > **SORELY** needed. Right now, I am using 'slrn' for news-reading and > Pine for mail-reading and I hate doing it this way... :( I use trn in a kind of batch mode to implement killfiles immediately before invoking Pine. It's a little klunky, but it's better than the nothing of Pine, which I agree is grievously lacking this regard. Email me if you'd like details and a script. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:28:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA14558 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA16926 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:23:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA16922 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:23:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOcDa-00038VC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 20:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatic sending of a message Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:52:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1996Nov15.132757.151067@forest> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Nov15.132757.151067@forest> On 15 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > Is there anyway to have a message automaticaly sent out at a certain time? > For example, I want the message to be mailed out at 2:30 in case I forget. Not with Pine. Sorry. There may be other non-Pine techniques, although I am not familiar with them. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:28:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA14511 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA16932 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:23:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA16928 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:23:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOcDe-00038XC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 20:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: MacIntosh, Pine and extended Characters? Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:48:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <327f3535.2145590@news.nacamar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Ted Y. Wilson wrote: > Did you ever get umlauts to work? Does anyone > know how to modify Pine setup/configuration to > send and receive umlauts? I changed the character-set > line to ISO-8859-1, but it didn't solve the problem. By itself, Pine will not show you umlauts -- or any other diacritical mark on any character. For display purposes, Pine simply takes whatever bit pattern there is for each character and passes it unchanged to the display hardware you are using, or to the communication link, as the case may be. In a sense, Pine doesn't show you *anything* -- your hardware does. Therefore, your hardware display must be capable of displaying the characters, and you must make sure that any communications link doesn't mess things up (such as stripping off the high-order bit from each character). For example, I use a DOS PC dialed into a Un*x system, on which Pine runs. I get mail and newsgroup postings in ISO-8859-1. To view those postings correctly, I must load code page 819 on my PC, in place of the default code page 437. You may need to do something comparable or analogous to make sure that your hardware is displaying the proper characters. (DOS code pages are essentially instructions to the hardware how to display all 256 possible characters in non-graphics mode.) Pine is probably not the problem here. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:07:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA15246 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA15264 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:03:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA15260 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:03:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOctQ-00038VC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 21:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bourne DL Subject: Re: HOW TO SEND MAIL TO MULTIPLE ADDRESSES? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:48:31 +0000 Message-ID: References: <440v28$5ei$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <440v28$5ei$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> hello would you like a cup of herbal tea... This is an107 signing off for now, Say hi to all those nasty blokes, and keep away from all the fit birds, or was it the other way round . . . And remember, homosexuality is not something that you can turn your back on. see ya. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:57:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA00875 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:57:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA16570 for pine-info-out; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:54:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA16566 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:54:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOed7-00038VC; Fri, 15 Nov 96 22:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Pine & 1/2 News Date: 13 Nov 1996 19:15:04 GMT Message-ID: <56d6no$p37@due.unit.no> References: <56d3fn$9en@bigboote.WPI.EDU> In article <56d3fn$9en@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, Paul English wrote: >It doesn't look like this can be done from the config file, since as soon >as it's aware of an nntp server, it becomes fully news-aware. Can I patch >pine to do this? Yes, at least in 3.95. In Setup/Config, do an explicit delete of the news-collections option. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:38:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA17260 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA20465 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:34:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA20461 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:34:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOh4P-00038VC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 01:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Warner Subject: Re: cancelling articles? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:17:59 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <199611071409.JAA20775@anon.lcs.mit.edu> <56aisj$cnb@hiway1.exit109.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 12 Nov 1996, Jeremy wrote: > > > pobart@access.digex.net (Paul O Bartlett ) wrote: > > > [...] Send a > > >blank (no body) post to the newsgroup(s) involved with the Subject: > > >cmsg cancel > > You should have a Control: cancel header in there. > In *addition* to the Subject: line to which I referred or in > *place* of the Subject: line? In addition. -- Michael Warner warner@wsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:53:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA17059 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA18515 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:49:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA18511 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:49:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOhLv-00038XC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 01:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lloyd Wood Subject: ISO handling between Eudora and Pine Date: 13 Nov 1996 16:17:53 GMT Message-ID: <56csbh$2l4@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just had an interesting problem come up with a Solaris Pine 3.95 user receiving email from a Windows Eudora Lite 1.5.4 client. My user didn't understand why he was seeing a 'the charset is in "iso-8859-1" format, your display supports ISO-8859-1,ISO-88592,ISO-8859-3 all the way to 9' type message. Here are the headers that caused that: Received: from mail.datanet.hu by ainur.ee.surrey.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0vNbJo-000OjCC; Wed, 13 Nov 96 09:09 GMT Received: from verdi-24.dialin.datanet.hu by mail.datanet.hu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA100867; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:03:43 +0100 X-UIDL: 847887395.007 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:03:43 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19961113104732.1dd75f5c@mail.datanet.hu> X-Sender: pappvary@mail.datanet.hu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: I.Andrikopoulos@ee.surrey.ac.uk From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sara_Papp=2DV=E1ry_=3Cpappvary=40berlitz.datanet.hu=3E?=@mail.dat anet.hu [Gotta love that mangled From: line.] As far as I can see, the Windows Eudora Lite is generating Content-Type: headers where the 'ISO' of ISO-8859-x is in lower case and is 'iso'. Since I've only ever seen ISO-8859-x written in upper-case, this strikes me as sloppy. On the other hand, headers should not be case-dependent (any case-dependent stuff is rotten legacy code that needs fixing, IMHO), and Pine 3.95 ought to be capable of recognising that 'iso-8859-1' and 'ISO-8859-1' are one and the same thing (and that US-SCII is US-ascii is us-ascii is... you get the idea). It looks to me that Eudora is really the one at fault here for not rigidly following the capitalisation, but that Pine's handling of case variants is brain-dead and turns a small problem into a bigger problem. (No big deal for ISO-8859-1 here, but once you get to the more exotic variants like -7 and you're dealing with people unused to computers who are uncomfortable with English, uncomfortable with reading English manuals and even more uncomfortable with the gibberish on their screens resulting from ISO misinterpretation, you see where my time is going to be going in future.) Can I request that Eudora stick with convention (ISO should be caps) and that Pine be more tolerant in future releases? Writing robust code capable of handling case variations sensibly is, I would have thought, fairly trivial. (Although Netscape can't seem to handle it consistently for & &Amp; & &AmP; despite their many releases and person-years of hackery.) Thanks, L. -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 07:04:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA19396 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 07:04:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA24036 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 07:01:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA24032 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 07:01:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOmCv-00038VC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 06:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: pine source code Date: 13 Nov 1996 20:06:53 GMT Message-ID: References: On 13 Nov 1996 08:20:19 -0800, Linda Ling Thai wrote: >Does anybody know where the pine source >code is. I tried to get to >ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine, >but the pine.tar.Z wasn't there. any ideas? Seems to be there when I check .... maybe you should try retrieving pine3.95.tar.Z instead. lrwxr-xr-x 1 172 0 14 Nov 13 08:39 pine.tar.Z -> pine3.95.tar.Z lrwxr-xr-x 1 172 0 15 Nov 13 08:39 pine.tar.gz -> pine3.95.tar.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 3482865 Jul 15 16:01 pine3.95.tar.Z -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 2154473 Jul 15 16:01 pine3.95.tar.gz Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 08:55:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA19666 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 08:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA23073 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 08:51:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA23069 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 08:51:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOnvw-00038VC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 08:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nicole Walker Subject: hi Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 10:24:32 -0600 Message-ID: <328DEAC0.1D40@library.vanderbilt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:49:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA19308 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA27449 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:46:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.cns.ksu.edu (grunt.ksu.ksu.edu [129.130.12.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA27445 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:46:17 -0800 Received: from tony.ksu.ksu.edu (jts8314@tony.ksu.ksu.edu [129.130.93.4]) by mailhub.cns.ksu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/mailhub) with SMTP id NAA04228 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:46:15 -0600 (CST) Received: by tony.ksu.ksu.edu (8.6.12/1.34) id NAA15481; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:45:55 -0600 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:45:48 -0600 (CST) From: John T Swiniuch X-Sender: jts8314@tony.ksu.ksu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: My Mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having problems recieving my mail messages from others, and I am wondering why this is happening. It is getting really annoying because this has been going on for some time now, and my friends are getting a little angry at me when I am not responding to their mail on time. If their is anything that I can do to correct this little problem just let me know. Thank YOu. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:39:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA21406 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA28889 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:36:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA28885 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:36:15 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id DAA01418; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 03:08:23 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 03:08:23 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Pine and IRC Mail No. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, In my Pine INBOX I have the message count as 313. I quit pine and go to IRC. Now the status bar at IRC shows mail as 318. I am not able to understand where are the messages from 314 to 318. I even sent a test mail to check whether I as still recieving mail. Now the INBOX is showing the mail to be at 314, while IRC shows it as 319. Can anyone please help? Thanks, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:57:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA21382 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA29797 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:52:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA29788 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:52:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOtVi-00038VC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 14:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Backes Subject: sending mail from root su - still has original login name Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:20:38 -0700 Message-ID: <328D5D36.4574@qadas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would anyone know how I can have mail sent using Pine from my su - session to handled as from root@mydomain.com or support@mydomain.com when I send mail using pine. Situation is, I have to do a lot of followups from home to our clients and whenever I send mail from the root acct, it shows my original login name. But "of course" anything I send from the console at the office logged in as root gets sent with the support@mydomain.com In my root .bashrc i have USERNAME=$LOGNAME and I have tried everything else under the sun. even USERNAME=SUPPORT etc; Attempts to tweek the pinerc have been also negatory.. Any answers would greatly appreciated. Mike Backes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:18:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA19823 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA00833 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:15:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA00829 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:15:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOupx-00038WC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 16:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tallpaul@palantir.res.wpi.edu (Paul English) Subject: Pine & 1/2 News Date: 13 Nov 1996 18:19:35 GMT Message-ID: <56d3fn$9en@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Pine gurus, Brief question.. I like to use tin to read my news, hence would NOT like to see the news section of pine at all (as in when there is no nntp server defined). However, I would like to be able to reply to email which have newsgroups in the header, so that my reply will be posted to the newsgroup.. I'd also like to be able to simply post from pine by using rich headers. It doesn't look like this can be done from the config file, since as soon as it's aware of an nntp server, it becomes fully news-aware. Can I patch pine to do this? Thanks, Paul PS: this is pine for UNIX, if it makes a difference.. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:18:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA23921 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA28946 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:15:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA28942 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:15:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOupu-00038VC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 16:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: changing "from" address Date: 13 Nov 1996 21:38:39 GMT Message-ID: References: <328A1B63.4DAC@grouplogic.com> robnewberry@grouplogic.com (Rob Newberry): > I have an account login of "rob", but I have an alias > that I would prefer to use as my "return address". http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/reply-to.html Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [960930] ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm [sig.elm] ELM - Read the "ELM Pages": http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ ELM Info on ELMME+ patch: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/patches/#pgp ELM Latest ELMME+ patch: ELM2.4ME+PL28 [960930] (based on ELM2.4PL24ME8b+) ELM Latest ELM alpha: ELM2.5a11 [960809] ELM testers please check this! ELM Latest ELM release: ELM2.4PL25 [951204] patch25 fixes security bug! ELM Latest ELMPGP patch: ELMPGP6 [95????] "Supported". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:18:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA19855 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:18:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA28952 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:15:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA28948 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:15:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOuq5-00038YC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 16:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hellman Tapio Subject: Pine 3.95 crashes Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:37:35 -0200 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi! Some of our pine users have reported the same problem with pine 3.95: Pine crashes with the following error message: sendsig: can't grow stack, pid 13137, proc pine% |] Illegal instruction (core dumped) I have not been able to reproduce this problem with my own pine configuration, so it might be a configuration problem. Our system is DECstation 5000/125, Ultrix 4.5 operating system and 64 MB of physical memory. Tapio Hellman=09=09=09=09e-mail:=09Tapio.Hellman@setol.fi Computer Laboratory Engineer=09=09tel:=09+358 6 4162 787 Sein=E4joki Institute of Technology=09mobile:=09+358 49 565 024 T=F6rn=E4v=E4ntie 26, FIN-60200 Sein=E4joki=09fax:=09+358 6 4162 676 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:28:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA24581 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:28:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA01692 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:25:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA01688 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:25:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOvvt-00038VC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 17:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mberger@pdn-pix.com (Mike Berger) Subject: Re: changing "from" address Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:27:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <328A1B63.4DAC@grouplogic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article , guckes@math.fu-berlin.de wrote: > robnewberry@grouplogic.com (Rob Newberry): > > I have an account login of "rob", but I have an alias > > that I would prefer to use as my "return address". > > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/reply-to.html > > Sven My problem is similar. I need to add a "from:" header line, which I do now using the manual "headers:user..." technique. Looking at your reply-to.html page, I saw your description of the "elmheaders" file. My .elm directory does not contain such a file. Basically, I want the header change to be universal and permanent, so changing the elmheaders file sounds like the solution, but do I need to create the file myself or can I download a template from somewhere? Thanks, --Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:28:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA02439 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA00617 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:25:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA00613 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:25:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOwrT-00038VC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 18:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu (Bill Mahoney) Subject: Problem with saved-message folders and pine locks Date: 15 Nov 1996 15:06:28 GMT Message-ID: <56i0tk$os3@decaxp.harvard.edu> The mail server is running HPUX9.05. The client is running HPUX10.10. The client is using imap to access mail on the server. This works fine. However, when I try to save a message to a folder, pine hangs. The client's saved-message folders are NFS-mounted and located on the mail server. Any ideas on this? Thanks for any and all help, Bill Mahoney bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:16:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA25023 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA01190 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:14:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA01186 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:14:03 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA17371; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:14:00 -0800 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 19:13:59 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Ashok Aiyar cc: Pine Info Mailing List , lindat@cs.tamu.edu Subject: Re: pine source code In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I learned recently that we also had a failure of the ftp host last week, so Linda might have hit us at a bad time :( (Actually the host was just fine... it's just that there weren't any files on it for awhile.) -teg On 13 Nov 1996, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > On 13 Nov 1996 08:20:19 -0800, Linda Ling Thai wrote: > > >Does anybody know where the pine source > >code is. I tried to get to > >ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine, > >but the pine.tar.Z wasn't there. any ideas? > > Seems to be there when I check .... maybe you should try retrieving > pine3.95.tar.Z instead. > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 172 0 14 Nov 13 08:39 pine.tar.Z -> pine3.95.tar.Z > lrwxr-xr-x 1 172 0 15 Nov 13 08:39 pine.tar.gz -> pine3.95.tar.gz > -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 3482865 Jul 15 16:01 pine3.95.tar.Z > -rw-rw-r-- 1 172 0 2154473 Jul 15 16:01 pine3.95.tar.gz > > Ashok > -- > Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. > Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu > University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:03:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA25040 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA03478 for pine-info-out; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:00:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA03474 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:00:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vOyOD-00038VC; Sat, 16 Nov 96 19:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Suppressing recipients e-mail addresses Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:51:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1996Nov13.144113.150885@forest> <56fn11$jo9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <56fn11$jo9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> On 14 Nov 1996, Ramesh Gunna wrote: > Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: > : On 13 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > > : > I often have to mail one letter out to many people. But what I want to > : > know, is there a way to suppress the recipients e-mail addresses, so that > : > anyone who receives the message will not know who else it was sent to? > > : Depending on how current your version of Pine is, you can do one > : and maybe two different things. [...] > > As a follow up on this topic, is it perfectly legal & ethical to > supress the recipients address in a mailing list. > > I would like to know what others think. Frequently, using Bcc: (Blind Carbon Copy) or Lcc: (List Carbon Copy) is a courtesy and convenience to the recipients, and concealment has nothing to do with it. Suppose you want to send a single email to 500 address. If you list them all under To: or Cc:, then each recipient is going to have to scroll through screen after screen of addresses to get down to the message. This is irritating to many people, and they don't want to look at this huge list of addresses. Using Bcc: or Lcc: make it easy for them. Also, If I write an original piece of email and send it to you, then unless we have some sort of agreement between us, I have the right to send to to whomever else I wish. It is my work, my production, and I can do with it whatever I want -- including sending it to other people without telling you -- unless we already have an agreement to the contrary. I see no ethical difficulties whatever, and I am not aware of any legal restrictions. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:15:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA27119 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA04595 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:09:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.mntm.org (ns.mntm.org [207.40.156.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA04588 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:08:59 -0800 Received: from rrc2.rrcnet.org by ns.mntm.org; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/30Oct95-1021AM) id AA20484; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 02:13:20 -0600 Received: from anp15.rrcnet.org by rrc2.rrcnet.org; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0511PM) id AA14613; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 02:11:16 -0600 Message-Id: <9611170811.AA14613@rrc2.rrcnet.org> From: "Leonard Runck" To: Subject: disk space quotas on the UNIX box. Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 02:11:21 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am working with Pine Version 3.90 on an DEC Alpha Server. I would like to know how I can restrict the number messages stored on the UNIX server by the email clients. Or How to restrict the amount of disk space they can tie up before they have to delete some of their old messages. Thanks. Leonard Runck runckl@rrcnet.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:37:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA14275 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA06431 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:31:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA06427 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:31:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vP2Ys-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 00:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zorak@alaska.net (Brian N Myers) Subject: Procmail and Pine Date: 15 Nov 1996 04:54:01 GMT Message-ID: <56gt19$k1b@byatt.alaska.net> Using Pine 3.93 (with procmail) under SunOS 5.5.1, how do I have messages from a mailing list sent into a different folder? I tried the method in Nancy McGough's Filtering Mail FAQ, but it didn't work... it sent all the messages to the same folder. What I want to do is take all messages thta have [pal] anywhere in the subject line and divert them to a different folder. --- zorak@alaska.net is Brian Myers --- "You're Zorak!" "You're gone!" --- "I am Unicron. I have summoned you here for a purpose." "Nobody summons Megatron!" "Then, it pleases me to be the first." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 01:38:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA27767 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 01:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA05664 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 01:36:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA05660 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 01:36:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vP3dK-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 01:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chet Lad Subject: setting key bindings Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:16:38 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm currently using pine V3.95 for UNIX. When I'm reading a message, I want to use the 'return' key as a line advance...but it complains that the enter key is not defined. Is there any way of defining what the return key should do? Thanks, Chet --------------------------------------------------------- Chet Lad Phone: (905) 882-2600 CAD Engineer Ext: 8484 Fax: (905) 882-9339 ATI TECHNOLOGIES INC. 33 Commerce Valley Drive East Thornhill, Ontario Canada L3T 7N6 Email: clad@ATItech.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 06:24:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA21282 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 06:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA10400 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 06:22:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA10396 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 06:22:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vP83b-00038WC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 06:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbolting@nemonet.com (Stephen Boltinghouse) Subject: cmsg cancel <152.353194369934@news.nemonet.com> Message-ID: Control: cancel <152.353194369934@news.nemonet.com> References: <152.353194369934@news.nemonet.com> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:49:04 +1 MMF chain letter cancelled by hw@atlantic.fb12.tu-berlin.de . This is spam! Far above of ten thousand of these have been posted. The Breidbart index of this series was 1157. See report "Boltinghouse" in news.admin.net-abuse.announce. Subject was: Just try this, it will work. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:34:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA27467 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA11343 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:28:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA11336 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:28:28 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id AAA16175; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:00:32 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:00:32 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: News Server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am presently using 2 different news servers. Is it possible to have different .newsrc file for each server? How? Thanks, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:00:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA32163 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA12486 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:57:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA12482 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:57:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPDK2-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 11:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dedek@lexis-nexis.com (Mike Dedek) Subject: Re: HELP SCO Unix dummy wants pine Date: 15 Nov 1996 14:25:19 GMT Message-ID: <56hugf$j6f@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> References: <56gd6q$pbp@noc1.gwi.net> In article <56gd6q$pbp@noc1.gwi.net>, tomj@accudata.com writes: |> Please help a poor dummy - I want to install pine on SCO Unix but cannot penetrate the mysteries of the distribution and installation |> process. Your help, phrased in simple terms (like copy this, type this) would be very much appreciated |> |> tomj@accudata.com |> This assumes you have unzipped/uncompressed the files into wherever you want to keep the source. If you haven't got that far, you'll have to figure out on your own (it's not hard ;) % cd % build sco % su # cp bin/pine bin/pico bin/pilot /usr/local/bin # exit I hope that helps! -Mike Dedek Development Services/Tools Lexis-Nexis, a division of Reed-Elsevier PLC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:03:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA32223 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA12506 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:58:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay.iglou.com (relay.iglou.com [192.107.41.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA12502 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:58:42 -0800 Received: from iglou.com [root@192.107.41.3] by relay.iglou.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with smtp id m0vPDMX-000cKiC; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:58:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:58:36 -0500 (EST) From: James Syme X-Sender: jimsyme@iglou1 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to use BCC and LCC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine info recently responded to a message concerning suppressing E-mail addresses from the following inquiry: > : > I often have to mail one letter out to many people. But what I want to > : > know, is there a way to suppress the recipients e-mail addresses, so that > : > anyone who receives the message will not know who else it was sent to? > > : Depending on how current your version of Pine is, you can do one > : and maybe two different things. [...] > Frequently, using Bcc: (Blind Carbon Copy) or Lcc: (List Carbon Copy) is a courtesy and convenience to the recipients, and concealment has nothing to do with it. Suppose you want to send a single email to 500 address. If you list them all under To: or Cc:, then each recipient is going to have to scroll through screen after screen of addresses to get down to the message. This is irritating to many people, and they don't want to look at this huge list of addresses. Using Bcc: or Lcc: make it easy for them.> Could you please tell me how you implement BCC and/or LCC in Pine? thanks Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:17:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA28364 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:17:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA12612 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:06:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frodo.okcu.edu (frodo.okcu.edu [204.233.120.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA12608 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:06:02 -0800 Received: by frodo.okcu.edu (MX V4.2 AXP) id 33; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:06:05 CST6CDT5,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:06:03 CST6CDT5,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: kprasad To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu CC: kprasad@frodo.okcu.edu Message-ID: <009AB818.EE951F00.33@frodo.okcu.edu> Subject: dear sirs,please decode this document and re-mail it to me as soon as possible.Thanking you ,Keshav Prasad From: MX%"kprasad@lec.okcu.edu" 14-NOV-1996 11:00:35.57 To: MX%"kprasad@frodo.okcu.edu" CC: Subj: Invest in Britain Bureau (fwd) Return-Path: Received: from lec.okcu.edu by frodo.okcu.edu (MX V4.2 AXP) with SMTP; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:00:00 CST6CDT5,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 Received: by lec.okcu.edu (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA05103; Thu, 14 Nov 96 10:59:04 -0600 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:59:04 -0600 (CST) From: KESHAV PRASAD To: kprasad@frodo.okcu.edu Subject: Invest in Britain Bureau (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="----=_NextPart_000_01BBD173.DD85D380" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. 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Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA12882 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:27:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPDmB-00038XC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 12:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Pine and IRC Mail No. Date: 17 Nov 1996 17:50:25 GMT Message-ID: <56nj91$6uh@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > >I even sent a test mail to check whether I as still recieving mail. Now >the INBOX is showing the mail to be at 314, while IRC shows it as 319. > >Can anyone please help? I can make a guess: a few of the messages contain lines starting with "From " within them. IRC thinks this means the beginning of a new message, while pine is a bit smarter about how to recognize true message delimiters. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:33:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA32461 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:33:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA14377 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:27:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA14373 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:27:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPDlX-00038WC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 12:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Trouble: empty inbox Date: 17 Nov 1996 17:46:04 GMT Message-ID: <56nj0s$6nd@due.unit.no> References: In article , Kendall P Bullen wrote: >drw-rw---- 2 root mail 1024 Nov 15 14:40 mail/ That's your problem. It should be: drwxrwxrwt Full access to everyone, but the sticky bit set to prevent deletion of other people's files. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:36:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA00657 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA15991 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:32:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA15987 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:32:53 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA28409; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:32:46 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:32:46 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Bill Mahoney cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with saved-message folders and pine locks In-Reply-To: <56i0tk$os3@decaxp.harvard.edu> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why not configure Pine to use IMAP for the secondary folders too? It's more efficient and avoids the NFS locking problems. -teg On 15 Nov 1996, Bill Mahoney wrote: > The mail server is running HPUX9.05. The client is running > HPUX10.10. The client is using imap to access mail on the server. > This works fine. However, when I try to save a message to a folder, > pine hangs. The client's saved-message folders are NFS-mounted and > located on the mail server. Any ideas on this? > > Thanks for any and all help, > > Bill Mahoney > bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:10:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA31728 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:10:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA16436 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:07:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from latte.harvard.edu (latte.harvard.edu [140.247.210.252]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA16432; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:07:42 -0800 Received: by latte.harvard.edu (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA067742319; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:11:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:11:59 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Mahoney To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with saved-message folders and pine locks In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Didn't know I could do that. Thanks a lot! A number of questions come to mind: -- do I specify a complete path? or just a path relative to home directories? -- with this make the folder-tree recursively accessibel thru imap? Is there a document that I can read? I've been thru the tech-notes, the FAQ, the man pages ... nothing there. Thanks again for your help. Bill Mahoney bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Why not configure Pine to use IMAP for the secondary folders too? > It's more efficient and avoids the NFS locking problems. > > -teg > > On 15 Nov 1996, Bill Mahoney wrote: > > > The mail server is running HPUX9.05. The client is running > > HPUX10.10. The client is using imap to access mail on the server. > > This works fine. However, when I try to save a message to a folder, > > pine hangs. The client's saved-message folders are NFS-mounted and > > located on the mail server. Any ideas on this? > > > > Thanks for any and all help, > > > > Bill Mahoney > > bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:21:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA25225 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA16557 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:17:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA16553 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:17:41 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA28975; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:17:38 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:17:37 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Bill Mahoney cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with saved-message folders and pine locks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Bill Mahoney wrote: > Didn't know I could do that. Thanks a lot! A number of questions > come to mind: > > -- do I specify a complete path? or just a path relative to > home directories? In the absence of a leading slash, home-dir relative is assumed. > -- with this make the folder-tree recursively accessibel > thru imap? At the moment, you have to define a separate folder collection for each directory or subdirectory with folders in it. Pine 4.0 will support folder hierarchies more flexibly. > Is there a document that I can read? I've been thru the tech-notes, > the FAQ, the man pages ... nothing there. Only the help for the Folder-collections variable in Setup/Config Here's a sample from my .pinerc: folder-collections=MAIN {shivams.cac.washington.edu/user=gray}MAIL/[*], Pine {shivams.cac.washington.edu}PINE/[*] > Thanks again for your help. HTH. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:46:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA28151 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA16884 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:43:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA16880 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:43:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPGqP-00038WC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 15:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Pine & 1/2 News Date: 14 Nov 1996 21:20:16 GMT Message-ID: References: <56d3fn$9en@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Yup.. just go to Setup/Config.. And enter the following for news-collections: "" i.e. a empty/null/blank value. This will prevent the news collection from showing up in your Folder List. But as long as you have nntp-server defined, you should still be able to post to newsgroups thru the rich headers or simply reply to any mail which has a newsgroup in the header. HTH, --Vikas On 13 Nov 1996 18:19:35 GMT, Paul English wrote: >Pine gurus, > Brief question.. I like to use tin to read my news, hence would NOT >like to see the news section of pine at all (as in when there is no nntp server >defined). However, I would like to be able to reply to email which have >newsgroups in the header, so that my reply will be posted to the newsgroup.. >I'd also like to be able to simply post from pine by using rich headers. >It doesn't look like this can be done from the config file, since as soon >as it's aware of an nntp server, it becomes fully news-aware. Can I patch >pine to do this? > Thanks, > Paul > >PS: this is pine for UNIX, if it makes a difference.. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:11:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA01161 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA15891 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:08:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA15881 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:08:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPHBK-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 16:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jules" Subject: PC Pine 3.95 and large mail boxes Date: 17 Nov 1996 23:50:19 GMT Message-ID: <01bbd4e1$e6a84c60$3d1f7da3@ada> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi. I'm having a problem with PC Pine 3.95 running on NT4sp1 that involves Pine spontaneously quitting when I try to open a large (1.3Mb) message folder on my local drive. Bug? Feature? Best, Jules -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMo+kP/jCcm9zXSbVAQEOOQQAyKQctUm9fd+6nXyZaY5d7AxrKEsXrQJj P4i2wDUi9En8e2dQO7gN8GX4kq3qGjnsKP/onBJZcJuwAXVjCGlhipE9+7UyI0TO UT5snotxw0CJM/4SxKyDV1DPcO2b5hNqNL5+Ot5c8jTgdxNBysN5wPwnj4ATdBca IEMLgygsQ6M= =8nHS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:16:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA02638 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA18854 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:13:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA18850 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:13:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 17 NOV 96 18:13:37 Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:13:37 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: John T Swiniuch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: My Mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was having some problems with mail once my ISP upgraded to v3.95 as well. Contact your ISP administrator to see if there's a problem on their side... that cleared it up for me. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, John T Swiniuch wrote: > I am having problems recieving my mail messages from others, and I am > wondering why this is happening. It is getting really annoying because > this has been going on for some time now, and my friends are getting a > little angry at me when I am not responding to their mail on time. > If their is anything that I can do to correct this little problem > just let me know. > Thank YOu. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:02:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA19416 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA19370 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:58:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA19366 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:58:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPJrj-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 18:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J.Y.E. Tse" Subject: Re: automatic sending of a message Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1996Nov15.132757.151067@forest> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:28:02 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <1996Nov15.132757.151067@forest> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 15 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > Is there anyway to have a message automaticaly sent out at a certain > time? For example, I want the message to be mailed out at 2:30 in case I > forget. As far as I know, Pine can't do this. If you're using UNIX, you can try "at", "cron", etc. They allow you to run a script at specified times. If you're dialing up to a shell account, you can set up your terminal program such that it runs a script at the specified time. That script will dial into your account, log on, send the e-mail, and log off. Hope this helps. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:31:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA17854 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA18376 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:28:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA18372 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:28:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPKNu-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 19:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roessler@sobolev.rhein.de (Thomas Roessler) Subject: Re: (Fwd) New virus on the Internet! (fwd) Date: 15 Nov 1996 20:33:05 GMT Message-ID: <56ik21$dok@sobolev.rhein.de> References: In article , Ben Norwood wrote: >Viruses spread by email can only take effect if 1) they are included in an >executable attachment to the email, and 2) the attachment is saved locally >and executed. Just reading a mail cannot cause any harm to your system. Since we are in comp.mail.pine, I agree with you. However, with Visual Basic getting more and more widespread on personal computers, it's quite possible to have Macro Viruses propagate from one system to the other in Mail attachments; you won't have to save and execute anything. Viewing the mail with the appropriate software (e.g., Word) should be sufficient to get into trouble. Similar problems seem to have been considered several years ago: The default mailcaps file which is distributed with the metamail MIME reference implementation handles PostScript attachments by sending them to the printer to not have them do any harm to the system. On another note, did anyone notice the nice inconsistency in the Irina announcement? The proposed solution is not to *read* the message after it has been received. Nevertheless, a few lines later the posting claims that the code is executed when the virus is saved on the *server*'s disk. tlr -- Thomas Roessler http://www.rhein.de/~roessler/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:16:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA04166 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA19714 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:14:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA19710 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:13:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPLjW-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 20:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: changing "from" address Date: 15 Nov 1996 12:15:45 GMT Message-ID: References: <328A1B63.4DAC@grouplogic.com> mberger@pdn-pix.com (Mike Berger): > > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/reply-to.html > My problem is similar. I need to add a "from:" header line, which I do now > using the manual "headers:user..." technique. Looking at your reply-to.html > page, I saw your description of the "elmheaders" file. > My .elm directory does not contain such a file. > Basically, I want the header change to be universal and permanent, so > changing the elmheaders file sounds like the solution, but do I need to > create the file myself or can I download a template from somewhere? No. Just create the file with any editor. Or just use echo: echo From: Mike Berger \ > $HOME/.elm/elmheaders If you need an example then take a look at mine: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elmheaders MUTT users can do this via the muttrc (no extra file required): my_hdr From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) my_hdr X-Mailer-Info: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/ Or is you use header editing then just add anything to your header. :-) Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de using MUTT 0.50 [961108] ,, WOOF! http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/ .'\___) http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/vs.elm.html /| |\ http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/pictures.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:17:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA03270 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA19734 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:15:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA19730 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:15:01 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA20094; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:47:24 +0530 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:47:22 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Orjan Johansen cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and IRC Mail No. In-Reply-To: <56nj91$6uh@due.unit.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, can i email a IRC conversation to myself? further is it possible to have a choice of servers on IRC. i am using Pine 3.93. thanks ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:28:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA29479 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA21100 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:23:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA21096 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:23:50 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA23739; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:56:31 +0530 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:56:30 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: "J.Y.E. Tse" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatic sending of a message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i am using pine 3.93. is it possiblke to compose a meesage while i am in the inbox folder. further my system doesn't allow me to delete inbox folder. how do i delete all messages in inbox without doing it individually. thanks ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:28:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA03841 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA21106 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:24:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA21102 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:24:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPM8k-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 21:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Suppressing recipients e-mail addresses Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:48:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1996Nov13.144113.150885@forest> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Nov13.144113.150885@forest> On 13 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > I often have to mail one letter out to many people. But what I want to > know, is there a way to suppress the recipients e-mail addresses, so that > anyone who receives the message will not know who else it was sent to? Depending on how current your version of Pine is, you can do one and maybe two different things. In any case, you can put the list of recipient addresses (using a nickname, if you have one) in the Bcc: header field. In that case, _be_sure_ to put *something* in the To: field, such as your own address (you have to "fake out" the mailing system). If you have a later version of Pine, you can use the Lcc: header field. Both of these should be amply explained in the online help. (Use ^R to get "Rich Headers" if you need to in order to use these fields.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:49:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA04078 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA21429 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:45:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA21425 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:45:33 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA06884; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:17:37 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:17:36 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: News Group. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, What is a tin? Is it another method of reading newsgroups? Is there a way to read and post to newsgroups, without using the news servers? Is there a gateway, which transfer all the messages to newsgroups to a systems similar to the email mailing list? I am aware of the www interface to newsgroups, but would like to use Pine. Thanks, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:02:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA30126 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA21641 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:59:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA21636 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:59:01 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA05871; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:30:57 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:30:57 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Folders. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Is there a way where by which, messages sent to a particular address is saved in a particular folder automatically? For example, I send a lot of mail to Pine mailing list. I would like to save all the messasges send by me to the Pine list to a separate folder automatically. Thanks for the help. Dinesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:12:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA04803 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA21523 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:09:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA21519 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:09:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPNnE-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 23:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: News Server Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:55:14 +930 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 17 Nov 1996, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > I am presently using 2 different news servers. > Is it possible to have different .newsrc file for each server? How? Not that I am aware of. However, you can do what I do. I have one NEWSRC. file (I am under VMS). The lines of my pine.pinerc file, in the news-collections section read: *{ferntree.com.au/nntp}[aus.*] *{ferntree.com.au/nntp}[comp.*] *{ntx.city.unisa.edu.au/nntp}[unisa.*] (My newsrc file is something like: aus.computers.amiga xx-xxx aus.computers.mac xx-xxx comp.mail.pine xx-xxx unisa.general xx-xxx (but with more entries) This way, I have four collections - my local mail collection, with INBOX, MAIL etc, and three remote news-collections. It is not the most elegant setup, but it works. BTW, you can only post to the first entry in the nntp-server config entries. --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1197 Top Fermentation is Good From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:32:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA05201 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA22926 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:29:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA22922 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:29:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPO5a-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 23:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Move folders from PC to server? Date: 17 Nov 1996 21:37:51 GMT Message-ID: <56o0jf$aou@due.unit.no> References: <56jh0g$ok0@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> In article <56jh0g$ok0@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>, Spike99 wrote: > >I FTPed my mail folders/files from my PC to the server. The 32-bit Pine >client can read them OK, but if I try to save new messages to those >folders, I get a 'not Berkley format' message and it won't save the >message. Any new folders I create on the server are just fine. > >Is there any way to get those folders into the Berkley format or to >otherwise get the Pine client to be able to write to them? Save all the messages (using the aggregate command ;AAS) to a new folder from within pine, then rename the new folder. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:37:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA05393 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA21822 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:34:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA21818 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:34:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPO9r-00038VC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 23:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven C King Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:14:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Nov 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: > Please.. please.. tell me that Pine's 'N' part i.e. Usenet news reading > module has been enhanced. > More specifically, support for threading and kill files... This is > **SORELY** needed. Right now, I am using 'slrn' for news-reading and > Pine for mail-reading and I hate doing it this way... :( Well, you can pseudo-thread in PINE by selecting OrderedSubj in sort-key in Config/Setup. Of course, all your folders will sort this way by default. Though it's not TRUE threading (hence, pseudo), it works quite well. As for killfiles, we'll have to wait and see if the PINE development team will add that feature, which is highly requested. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:37:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA05710 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA23003 for pine-info-out; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:34:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA22999 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:34:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPO9r-00038WC; Sun, 17 Nov 96 23:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ebromber@forest.drew.edu Subject: automatic sending of a message Message-ID: <1996Nov15.132757.151067@forest> Date: 15 Nov 96 13:27:57 EST Is there anyway to have a message automaticaly sent out at a certain time? For example, I want the message to be mailed out at 2:30 in case I forget. THanks in advance ebromber@drew.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:58:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA07311 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:58:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA25468 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:54:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA25464 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:54:35 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:52:08 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA16530; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:52:01 GMT Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:52:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: James Syme cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to use BCC and LCC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" To use Bcc and/or Lcc with Pine... 1. Upgrade to Pine 3.95 2. Start composing a message. 3. Put cursor on any header line of your message. 4. Type ^R (Rich Headers), shown in the Command Menu at the bottom of the screen. 5. Use the Bcc: and/or Lcc: fields thus revealed. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, James Syme wrote: > Pine info recently responded to a message concerning suppressing E-mail > addresses from the following inquiry: > > > : > I often have to mail one letter out to many people. But what I want to > > : > know, is there a way to suppress the recipients e-mail addresses, so that > > : > anyone who receives the message will not know who else it was sent to? > > > > : Depending on how current your version of Pine is, you can do one > > : and maybe two different things. [...] > > > Frequently, using Bcc: (Blind Carbon Copy) or Lcc: (List Carbon > Copy) is a courtesy and convenience to the recipients, and concealment > has nothing to do with it. Suppose you want to send a single email to > 500 address. If you list them all under To: or Cc:, then each > recipient is going to have to scroll through screen after screen of > addresses to get down to the message. This is irritating to many > people, and they don't want to look at this huge list of addresses. > Using Bcc: or Lcc: make it easy for them.> > > Could you please tell me how you implement BCC and/or LCC in Pine? thanks Jim > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:31:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA07466 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA26722 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:27:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stud-Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE (pprz02.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE [137.248.9.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA26718 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:27:38 -0800 Received: from localhost by Stud-Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/30.08.96) id AA03684; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:27:21 +0100 Reply-To: Schicke@pprz02.hrz.Uni-Marburg.DE Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:27:21 +0100 (CET) From: Schicke Elke To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: cool Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey there - just mailing to let you know that your programm is a whole lot of fun! I bet you guys are quite proud that even in good ol' Germany we use your stuff ! Despite the fact that most of your countrymen refuse to believe that we have advanced technology like com- puters and are not still riding our horses to the marketplace!! Anyway I hope the state of Washington is as beautiful as I remember it --- Have a fun-day Elke From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:59:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA02641 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA28518 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:50:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA28514 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:50:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPV0G-00038VC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 06:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sherry Roadcap Subject: using Mac Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:36:03 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure if you can help me or not, but I have a Mac computer at home and use Mac PPP to try to retrive my email messages. All works find until I hit the 2 to check email. Then there are all kinds of extra characters and I connot read. Have any idea what needs to be done? I have checked the email thru the LRC Mac computers and have no problems. I have tried to call for help, but the day people tell me to talk to the night people and the night people tell me to talk to the day people. Let me know if you have any ideas! Thanks: Sherry ----------------------------------------------------------------- Sherry Roadcap, UTSN sherry.roadcap@utmb.edu P.O. Box 221884 Galveston, TX 77555-1884 (409) 747-7455 UTMB, SCHOOL OF NURSING, GALVESTON ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:25:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA29609 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA27850 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:20:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA27846 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:20:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPVRk-00038VC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 07:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jonathansen Subject: newsgroups Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:36:04 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII An odd thing has been occurring. I use PINE to view/post/whatever newsgroups with little difficulty at all. However, recently, one particular newsgroup (specifically rec.music.phish), opens with no messages in folder. I know that there are messages in this folder. Does anybody know what I can do so that the messages will load? Thanks, jonathansen ----- Sums are not set as a test on Erasmus. ----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:27:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA09243 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA28938 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:20:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA28934 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:20:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPVTm-00038WC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 07:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Re: (Fwd) New virus on the Internet! (fwd) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:40:12 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Nov 1996, Genel M Uehara wrote: :>>>>>>>>Subject: New virus. :>>>>>> :>>>>>>Here's a warning you should be aware of: :>>>>>>There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you :>>>>>>receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Irina", DO NOT read the :>>>>>>message, DELETE it immediately. Anyone heard of "Good Times"? This sounds suspiciously like a "Good Times"-type virus hoax. Do NOT forward the message to anyone else..."Irina" cannot possibly do any harm to your system. Viruses spread by email can only take effect if 1) they are included in an executable attachment to the email, and 2) the attachment is saved locally and executed. Just reading a mail cannot cause any harm to your system. So if you find a message prattling on about an email virus, delete it and do not forward it to anyone else. -- _ / | __ __ Web: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 /-< /_/ / / Email: bdn5@aber.ac.uk /__/ /_ / / Finger: bdn5@osfb.aber.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:57:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA11824 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA29800 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:50:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA29796 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:50:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPWqt-00038VC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 08:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: using Mac Date: 18 Nov 1996 16:33:21 GMT Message-ID: <56q34h$dgb$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , Sherry Roadcap writes: > I'm not sure if you can help me or not, but I have a Mac computer at home > and use Mac PPP to try to retrive my email messages. All works find > until I hit the 2 to check email. Then there are all kinds of extra > characters and I connot read. Have any idea what needs to be done? I > have checked the email thru the LRC Mac computers and have no problems. > I have tried to call for help, but the day people tell me to talk to the > night people and the night people tell me to talk to the day people. Let > me know if you have any ideas! Assuming you use a telnet application and log into your Unix machine to use Pine. The problem may be caused by the control characters that Pine uses to clear the screen, bold-face some letters, etc. Your terminal emulation may have been pure VT100 that does not have support of those control characters. Try to use VT200/220, even VT102 and see if you can overcome the problem. Which telnet program do you use? NCSA Telnet? I use Comet from Cornell U. (freeware, available on info-mac) most of time. I also use freeware NiftyTelnet from Carnegie Melon U. (URL is: http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/dist/niftytelnet.html). Both Comet and NiftyTelnet can display Pine menus properly. Alternatively, you can get a copy of MailDrop client for Mac and access your emails just as easily. MailDrop is freeware from Baylor U. and the URL is: http://ackmo.baylor.edu/files/Mail_Drop/info.html and make sure you have the latest development version (1.2d7d as of today). Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == Email: Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = WWW: http://uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews== == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:50:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA16806 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA06701 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:40:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA06697 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:40:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPZXD-00038VC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 11:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christian Bering Subject: This error shouldn't occur Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 01:30:17 GMT Hi there - I encountered this peculiar phenomenon which the local staff couldn't explain, so I thought I might try it here. I'm sorry if I should have overseen any information where this problem is classified as standard ... I unfortunately couldn't find any such source. Well, to reduce band-width, here we go: I received mail from Germany, MIME-1.0 encoded und pure text, containing German special characters presumably correctly encoded as "=81" and similar (which should turn out to be vocals with dots on them). But Pine 3.91 under UNIX (cde ... cough) won't display them properly, adding newlines and such. The original Content-Type was text/plain. Adding the charset information (iso...) didn't change a thing. Could it be a problem with my font (which of course is iso-encoded; so were the other four or five which I tried)? Thanks in advance for any reply C. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:19:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA18978 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:19:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA09209 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:10:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from iag.net (seminole.iag.net [204.27.210.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA09202 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:09:59 -0800 Received: from seminole.iag.net by iag.net with esmtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0vPax2-0000wAC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 16:09 EST Path: iag.net!seminole.iag.net!tv From: Todd Vierling Newsgroups: alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris Subject: ALERT: Solaris 2.5.1 locks up on TCP connections in Pine 3.9x Followup-To: alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:06:35 -0500 Organization: Internet Access Group, Orlando, Florida Lines: 75 Distribution: inet Message-ID: Reply-To: tv@iag.net NNTP-Posting-Host: seminole.iag.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: bugtraq@netspace.org, solaris-x86@mlist.eis.com Xref: iag.net alt.solaris.x86:1726 comp.unix.solaris:101719 ReSent-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:09:48 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: Todd Vierling ReSent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu ReSent-Message-ID: This is being sent to a couple newsgroups and mailing lists; if these mailing lists don't show the proper Reply-To: header, please direct replies to and avoid posting to all lists. To the persons at Sun Microsystems who will be receiving this via blind carbon copy: TAKE NOTE. This is going directly to CERT and CIAC if I can't get a resolution. I've worked with UNIX-based systems including SunOS and Solaris long enough to know what's a problem with the kernel. I have stumbled upon a problem that I can reproduce on all our systems every time, and apparently can be reproduced by other readers of USENET as will be documented below. Simply put, if configured properly, the Pine mail reader, versions 3.94 and 3.95, can *freeze* the Solaris 2.5 and 2.5.1 kernel completely. No core dump or the like--an outright freeze. No TCP/IP pings work--network is frozen. Even the keyboard sometimes freezes and pressing the xxx-Lock keys doesn't light the respective indicator light. This may at first sound like a problem Sun can shun because they "do not support Pine," but think about this: In a protected-memory environment such as Solaris, NO USER PROGRAM SHOULD EVER FREEZE THE COMPUTER. That's what protected memory is for. Pine is not run with any special privileges, only as a regular user--and a regular user does not have the ability to cause the computer to halt. Hence, Pine has triggered a bug in the Solaris kernel--a product of Sun's. I daresay this could exist in releases of Solaris/x86 as early as 2.3, and nothing has been done about it. And if Pine can do it, that means other programs have the same potential. More than anything else right now, I'm looking to see that this problem can be reproduced on other systems. You can most certainly try to reproduce this yourself! You'll need the following to do the experiment: - the binary of Pine 3.95 and the respective .pinerc file from my FTP site at ftp://ftp.iag.net/pub/tv/ -- files "pine.Z" (decompress this) and "pinerc" (name this .pinerc in your home directory). Uh, you can trust the binary--up to the point of system freeze, that is. :/ OR: - GCC version 2.7.2 or 2.7.2.1, NOT the ProCompiler (as I do not know if a ProCompiler compiled version will recreate this). - Pine 3.95 sources from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.tar.gz. You'll need to twiddle some things for "./build sol" to work: make sure that /usr/ccs/bin/ucbcc AND /usr/ccs/bin/cc point to gcc; /usr/ccs/bin is in your path; /usr/ucb is not before /usr/bin or /usr/ccs/bin in your path; and "." is the last entry in your path. - A .pinerc with inbox-path= set to an IMAP server. You can do this by running Pine, going to (S)etup (C)onfig, and setting the value to a server with IMAP (I use {imap.afn.org}INBOX where I have one of my e-mail accounts). Or use the one from my FTP site above. All you should need to do now is run Pine. If you get a login prompt, ^C, (Q)uit, and run it again a few times. Betcha it'll lock the system. It does for us, consistently. I'd love to hear of other reports of this happening. It's quite frustrating to find that a product that has such intense corporate backing has none at all when any outside product is in use (even when the outside product is only triggering a bug in the supported product). My report of this problem was sent in as an "enhancement request," because an outside program was what triggered the error and there was not 100% Sun Supported(tm) software in the setup. Sun Microsystems, you can do better than this. I hope your kernel group finally breaks down to find out what's going on. ===== == Todd Vierling (Personal tv@pobox.com; Business tv@iag.net) Cast a vote! == == System administrator/technician, Internet Access Group, Orlando Florida == == Dialups in Orange, Volusia, Lake, Osceola counties - http://www.iag.net == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:38:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA16473 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA08643 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:25:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA08639 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:25:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPb85-00038VC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 13:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: PC-PINE - A way to make folders not read-only?? Date: 18 Nov 1996 17:20:56 GMT Message-ID: <56q5to$hdu@due.unit.no> References: <328F622B.4691@fred.net> In article <328F622B.4691@fred.net>, Kathy Bilton wrote: >I've just started to use PC-PINE and transferred some folders from my >Unix Pine to my PC. I can pull them up in PC-PINE, but cannot delete >any of the messages. Is there a way to make these folders something >other than read-only? As I just said to someone with the opposite problem: Save to a new folder and rename. >Also, I was hoping that I would be able to at least be able to compose >offline, using PC-PINE, then postponing messages to send when online, >but it appears that even this is impossible unless I'm missing >something... I don't think it is currently possible. Greetings, Ørjan. -- Sign up against spam at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:10:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA21214 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA11210 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:06:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA11196 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:05:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPbkj-00038WC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 14:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 18 Nov 1996 21:13:40 GMT Message-ID: References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 14 Nov 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: : > More specifically, support for threading and kill files... This is : > **SORELY** needed. Right now, I am using 'slrn' for news-reading and : > Pine for mail-reading and I hate doing it this way... :( Paul O Bartlett wrote: : I use trn in a kind of batch mode to implement killfiles : immediately before invoking Pine. It's a little klunky, but it's : better than the nothing of Pine, which I agree is grievously lacking : this regard. Why this rather desperate desire to have both mail and news in one package? Why not just select and combine the best programs there are around - editor, mail program, newsreader? Switching between mail and news programs is a matter of seconds, and takes no longer than switching between functions inside the rather slow and sluggish pine. Wouldn't it be better if the pine team concentrated on making the mail program better and faster, and at least for the time being left the news business to specialists? -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:30:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA22039 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA11894 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:20:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PEAK.ORG (PEAK.ORG [198.68.22.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA11880 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:20:17 -0800 Received: from [205.247.120.207] ([205.247.120.207]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.13/8.6.7) id OAA12423; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:20:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199611182220.OAA12423@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 17:19:54 -0500 To: pshen@library.berkeley.edu, luomat@nerc1.nerc.com Subject: Re: How does Pine separate messages? cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu References: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: pshen@library.berkeley.edu (Paul Shen) Original Date: 13 Nov 1996 23:11:34 GMT Message-ID: > Can someone tell me what Pine uses to distinguish between 1 message > and the next. For example, if I were to type out 2 consecutive > messages (header+body), I get one long text file. When I cat the > /var/spool/mail file, it's one long text file, yet Pine can divide > the text file into separate messages. I think this convention works > for all e-mail readers...but don't know what it is... pretty simple, really. It looks for a blank line, followed by the word "From " The word "From " must be right up against the left margin, and it must have a space after it. When a mail message is received by "sendmail" (and I assume any other mail program) it requires that the message begins with a "From " and ends with a "." (also left-justified, on a line by itself). Then it scans the message to make sure the word "From " doesn't appear anywhere as the first word on a line. If it is found, sendmail will put a ">" in front of it I'll show you what I mean with this sentence: "This message is from me to you." Now that's OK because the word "From " is not the first word. (It also isn't capitalized.). But the next "From " will get a ">" in this: This Message Is From Me the "From " that I wrote doesn't have a ">", but when it gets to you it will This Is A From without a space after it A lowercase from with a space and a lowercase from without a space Hope that helps... TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:31:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA16556 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA12103 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:22:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA12072 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:22:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPc0Z-00038VC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 14:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: changing "from" address Date: 14 Nov 1996 08:38:13 GMT Message-ID: <56elpl$iem@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <56ddvk$hcn@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> ohrt@ws6a21.pseg.siemens.co.at (Diethard Ohrt) writes: >Also, if you set the user-domain in your pine setup, this will be used to >complete your address -- and there's also the feature use-domain-only (or >similar). But it is always a good idea to set the "Reply-To:" header. but doesn't changing the user domain mean that *any* local user is assumed to have such an address? Suppose you are using the host host.my.org and set the user domain to my.org so your address in pine becomes me@my.org (if your login is me). However, suppose you write a mail to root, will pine not automatically assume that you're sending that mail to root@my.org instead of root@host.my.org? -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA23675 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA12709 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:31:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurora.romoidoy.com (aurora.zoom.com [208.193.64.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA12705 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:31:34 -0800 Received: from fse.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by aurora.romoidoy.com (8.6.12/Romoidoy-Non-Hub-022896) with UUCP id PAA21946 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:31:40 -0800 Subject: PINE's command line options From: craig@fse-power.com (Craig Benting, ForeSight Electronics) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:31:37 -0700 Message-Id: <000000385042931201097@mailhub.fse-power.com> X-Mailer: CommuniGate 2.5 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (PINE Info) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is there any way to tell PINE to open up in 'compose' with a certain file in the message body or attached, "To" a certain person, and with a certain "Subject"? This is probably a lot to ask as far as automation, but it's pretty important. Here's what I've got that comes close: pine < /home/DATAX/PMAIL.TXT craig@fse-power.com This'll open it up in "Compose" with PMAIL.TXT in the body and enter 'craig@fse-power.com' in the recipients list, but how do I tell it to automatically put a certain string in the Subject? Another question: How does PINE define the Message ID for a given message? Is it some totally random string? Is it possible to tack on a string of your own to make it useful in tracking specific e-mails (like e-mailed Purchase Orders, etc.)? * * * * * * * * * * Power Engineering and Manufacturing * * * * * * * * * * For power related engineering and manufacturing requirements: http://www.fse-power.com sales@fse-power.com 1-800-276-9378 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:55:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA25371 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA16618 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:51:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA16614 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:51:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPeM5-00038XC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 16:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: 16 Nov 1996 09:27:45 -0500 Message-ID: <56kj11$g4a@saltmine.radix.net> You can convert your mail address lists between Elm Pine Eudora Netscape Pegasus all conversions are supported. Go to http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm NEW Database/Spreadsheet/Tabbed-ASCII to all of above!!!. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Technical Web Service, Perl/CGI, E-mail address conversion service 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:46:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA25663 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA15894 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:41:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA15890 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:41:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPfB6-00038XC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 17:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kendall@his.com.REMOVE.THIS.TO.REPLY (Kendall P Bullen) Subject: Re: Trouble: empty inbox Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:54:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <56nj0s$6nd@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <56nj0s$6nd@due.unit.no>, orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) wrote: >drwxrwxrwt > >Full access to everyone, but the sticky bit set to prevent deletion of >other people's files. You're an amazing person, thanks! :) It worked like a charm. I wonder why the default access was different. . . . Kendall -- -- Kendall P. Bullen E-mail: kendall@his.com Web: http://www.his.com/~kendall/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:46:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA25134 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA17910 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:42:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay.iglou.com (relay.iglou.com [192.107.41.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA17905 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:42:33 -0800 Received: from iglou.com [root@192.107.41.3] by relay.iglou.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with smtp id m0vPfCo-000cRkC; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:42:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:42:26 -0500 (EST) From: James Syme X-Sender: jimsyme@iglou1 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: More info on BCC and LCC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine-info provided the following steps To use Bcc and/or Lcc with Pine... > 1. Upgrade to Pine 3.95 2. Start composing a message. 3. Put cursor on any header line of your message. 4. Type ^R (Rich Headers), shown in the Command Menu at the bottom of the screen. 5. Use the Bcc: and/or Lcc: fields thus revealed.> What is the format distinction, or any others, between BCC and LCC? Is each simply an ASCII list file of E-mail addresses placed in the appropriate field? Finally, is each file list placed in the mail directory to be accessed? Thanks for your response Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:49:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA26223 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:49:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA18000 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:46:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA17995 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:46:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPfF1-00038XC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 17:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phillip Au Subject: help! wrong data in 'From' field Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:20:15 +0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT hello, I am using PINE 3.92, I got a problem with the 'From' field. When I send mail or post news letter, I found that the 'From' field display 'To whoever@blah.com' instead of 'Phillip Au' (my name) would anyone tell me how should I config it please? Thanks a lot regards, (:PHILLIP:) ps. please reply by email +------------------------------------+ * Phillip Au Shun Fung * °Ï²E­· phillip @ alumni.cuhk.edu.hk phillipa @ asiaonline.net patrickl @ infolink.net +------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:24:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA26684 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA16543 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:16:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA16539 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:16:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPfjP-00038XC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 18:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbgeo002@huey.csun.edu (jeffrey trust) Subject: Re: (Fwd) New virus on the Internet! (fwd) References: Message-ID: <328bc4af.0@newz.csun.edu> Date: 15 Nov 96 01:17:35 GMT This virus alert is a hoax, just like the Good Times virus alert was a hoax! It is impossible to get a virus from email (without downloading and executing a file). Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Trust (jtrust@csun.edu). Student, Dept. of Geological Sciences, California State University, Northridge (for which I don't speak). "The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves." -John Muir http://www.csun.edu/~hbgeo002/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:37:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA12837 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA18904 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:33:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from polaris.pacificnet.net (polaris.pacificnet.net [207.171.0.250]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA18900 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:32:59 -0800 Received: from dp4 (pm10-19.pacificnet.net [207.171.19.84]) by polaris.pacificnet.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA27132; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:32:07 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961119022723.0066f66c@pacificnet.net> X-Sender: imptoys@pacificnet.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:27:23 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Patrick Hall Subject: DG d412+ arrow keys... Cc: patrick@imptoy.com I'm running pine3.95 on DG/UX with d412+ terminals. I can't get the arrow keys to function correctly from within pine. Can someone point my terminfo-ignorant self in the right direction? Thanks, Patrick Hall From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:24:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA27050 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA19756 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:21:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA19752 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:21:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPgik-00038XC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 19:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: texmex@neosoft.com (Steve Patlan) Subject: HOAX! (New virus on the Internet!) Date: 18 Nov 1996 18:31:51 GMT Message-ID: <56qa2n$aqn@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: > genelu@hawaii.edu (Genel M Uehara) writes: (Something that anybody who's been on the Internet for more than five minutes should have recognized as the Good Times warning) > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 03:36:10 -1000 > From: "Julienne K. Maeda" .. > >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:22:56 -0500 (EST) > >From: obryant.2@osu.edu (Camille O'Bryant) .. >>>>>The following is an e-mail I received from someone at the School of >>>>>Management at Rutgers University. The message had been forwarded from >>>>>quite a few credible organizations,including Rutgers, so I'm going to ^^^^^^^^ You misspelled "credulous and unobservant" >>>>>assume this is a real scare. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You misspelled "Display my ignorance before the entire world." >>>>>Prof. Shields .. >>>>>>receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Irina", DO NOT read the >>>>>>message, DELETE it immediately. Some This warning was a stupid publicity stunt by Penguin books, for a new release which was also available on the web or something. They assumed that most people would recognize it as the *exact same text* of the Good Times warning, only with the word "Irina" substituted for "Good Times". Of course, they were wrong - and simpletons have been forwarding the warning for months now. Sheesh. - Steve Patlan -- <*> texmex@neosoft.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:34:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA26804 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA17738 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:19:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from service1.cc.uky.edu (service1.uky.edu [128.163.1.168]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA17731 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:19:21 -0800 Received: from ncc.uky.edu ([128.163.171.122]) by service1.cc.uky.edu (8.8.0/8.7.Beta.13) with SMTP id WAA08996 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:19:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32912735.626A@pop.uky.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:19:17 -0500 From: ceslob0@service1.uky.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printer problem X-URL: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00232.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an Apple IIGS and a Panasonic printer. I have tried everything to get it to print, but I am completely in the dark. I believe it is all connected properly to the computer and the fingerprint card. I would really like some advice, please. Thanks, Carl Slobodzian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:32:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA12034 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA18737 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:28:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA18733 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:28:38 -0800 Received: from waltz.rahul.net by bolero.rahul.net with SMTP id AA29454 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:28:37 -0800 Received: by waltz.rahul.net (5.67b8/jive-a2i-1.0) id AA13332; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:28:35 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:28:35 -0800 (PST) From: Royal Hargrove To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: SENDING A COPY OF A MESSAGE TO SEVERAL RECIPIENTS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could someone please tell me how to send a copy of a message to several recipients using Pine? Thanks very much. Royal@rahul.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:42:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA27723 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA18746 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:29:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acaix1.ucis.dal.ca (acaix1.UCIS.Dal.Ca [129.173.1.50]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA18739 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:28:59 -0800 Received: from is2.dal.ca (IS2.Dal.Ca [129.173.1.66]) by acaix1.ucis.dal.ca (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22509 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:28:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (hbullen@localhost) by is2.dal.ca (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA102482 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:28:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:28:56 -0400 (AST) From: Heidi Bullen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This was sent to me by a friend, It is about a bug. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:54:25 -0330 (NST) From: Valerie Woodworth To: Dwayne Simmons , Heidi Bullen , Timothy Parmiter , Stephanie Hancock , Charles , Amy Thompson , Brian Kirk Head , Derek Adams Cc: Kevin Machida , Steve Ralph , Jennifer Young , Kurt Sampson Subject: SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!! (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:16:31 -0400 (AST) From: Carl Ings To: Valerie Woodworth Subject: SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!! (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:21:49 -0400 (AST) From: Ashley James Buckle To: Carl Ings Subject: SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!! (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:02:37 -0400 (AST) From: paul bennett To: abuckle@is2.dal.ca Subject: SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!! Hi. It's me again. Frank or Boin may have already sent you this but just in case they never, this is valuable info. Paul J Benoit >>>IMPORTANT MESSAGE! >>> >>>Subject: Virus Alert >>> >>>There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you >>receive >>>an email message with the subject line "Good Times", DO NOT read the message, >>>DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. Some miscreant is >>ending >>>email under the title "Good Times" nationwide, if you get anything like this, >>>DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, >>>obliterating anything on it. Please be careful and forward this mail to >anyone >>>you care about. >>> >>> WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS >>> >>>The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major >>>importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new computer >>virus >>>has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ON LINE that is unparalleled in its >>>destructive capability. What makes this virus so terrifying, said the >FCC, is >>>the fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be >>>infected. It can be spread through the existing email systems of the >Internet. >>>Once a Computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If the >computer >>>contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If the program is >>>not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in an nth-complexity >>>infinite binary loop -which can severely damage the processor if left running >>>that way too long. Luckily, there is one sure means of detecting what is now >>>known as the "Good Times" virus. It always travels to new computers the same >>>way in a text email message with the subject line reading "Good Times". >>Avoiding >>>infection is easy once the file has been received simply by NOT READING IT! >>The >>>act of loading the file into the mail server's ASCII buffer causes the "Good >>>Times" mainline program to initialize and execute. The program is highly >>>intelligent- it will send copies of itself to everyone whose email address is >>>contained in a receive-mail file or a sent-mail file, if it can find one. It >>>will then proceed to trash the computer it is running on. The bottom line >>is: >>>-if you receive a file with the subject line, "Good Times", delete it >>>immediately! Do not read it" Rest assured that whoever's name was on the >>"From" >>>line was surely struck by the virus. Warn your friends and local system >users >>>of this newest threat to the Internet! It could save them a lot of time and >>>money. Could you pass this along to your global mailing list as well? >>> >>> George H. Bowers >>> Vice President for Information Systems University of Maryland Medical >>System >>>410-328-2579 (fax)410-328-0572 >>> gbowers@umms_itg.ab.umd.edu >>> >>> >> >> > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:12:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA28107 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA20721 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:06:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA20717 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:06:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPjII-00038XC; Mon, 18 Nov 96 22:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 19 Nov 1996 04:12:15 GMT Message-ID: <56rc2v$ebl@news1.epix.net> References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> : Distribution: Holger Lillqvist (lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI) wrote: : On 14 Nov 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: : : > More specifically, support for threading and kill files... This is : Paul O Bartlett wrote: : : better than the nothing of Pine, which I agree is grievously lacking : Why this rather desperate desire to have both mail and news in one package? : Why not just select and combine the best programs there are around - editor, : mail program, newsreader? Switching between mail and news programs is a : matter of seconds, and takes no longer than switching between functions : inside the rather slow and sluggish pine. : Wouldn't it be better if the pine team concentrated on making the mail : program better and faster, and at least for the time being left the news : business to specialists? Thank you Holger; That's the most intelligent post on this newsgroup in weeks. He has a good point folks. PINE is IMHO the best email program around for both novices and propellerheads. Sure it has a few hard to use features, but they're all there if you take the time to read the help and run thru the Setup and Config and learn how to use the ? context sensitive help screens. Having said that, pine is NOT a very good newsreader, in fact it's probably one of the worst. TIN is far better if you are on an ISP with a shell account. It can thread, has killfile capability, etc all the stuff everyone is complaining about here. Mail and News are 2 different animals, and while pine allows us to also copy to news and tin allows us to also send mail, IMO using pine as a newsreader is about as smart as using tin as a mail program or using your microwave as an oven or using your lawnmower as a food processor; They were designed for 2 different things. That's it; I'm done preaching; Now I'm gonna post this from TIN and go to PINE to read my email. All flames are welcome; It's cold here ;-) /\ /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad)/ \/\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA / / \/ / / /email/dad@epix.net / | USA EARTH ____/___/____\/__/_ http://www.epix.net/~dad |\____ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:01:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA30221 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA24159 for pine-info-out; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:54:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA24155 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:54:49 -0800 Received: (qmail 878 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1996 07:54:47 -0000 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@130.79.74.66) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr with SMTP; 19 Nov 1996 07:54:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:54:45 +0100 (MET) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Nov 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: >: > More specifically, support for threading and kill files... This is >: > **SORELY** needed. Right now, I am using 'slrn' for news-reading and >: > Pine for mail-reading and I hate doing it this way... :( > >Paul O Bartlett wrote: >: I use trn in a kind of batch mode to implement killfiles >: immediately before invoking Pine. It's a little klunky, but it's >: better than the nothing of Pine, which I agree is grievously lacking >: this regard. > >Why this rather desperate desire to have both mail and news in one package? >Why not just select and combine the best programs there are around - editor, > i do completely agree, i use pine for reading mails, vim to compose them and trn to read news.... and am really happy with it... what do you don't like with trn? it is trheaded and has killfile support and lots more... >Wouldn't it be better if the pine team concentrated on making the mail >program better and faster, and at least for the time being left the news >business to specialists? yes, leave the news support and please concentrate on full imap4 protocol :) ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:34:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA28066 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA24611 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:27:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA24607 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:27:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPlW5-00038XC; Tue, 19 Nov 96 00:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dana Booth Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 In-Reply-To: <56rc2v$ebl@news1.epix.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:21:17 GMT On 19 Nov 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > Thank you Holger; That's the most intelligent post on this newsgroup in > weeks. He has a good point folks. PINE is IMHO the best email program > around for both novices and propellerheads. Sure it has a few hard to use > features, but they're all there if you take the time to read the help and > run thru the Setup and Config and learn how to use the ? context sensitive > help screens. Having said that, pine is NOT a very good newsreader, in > fact it's probably one of the worst. TIN is far better if you are on an > ISP with a shell account. USEnet has become so rediculous these days... Subscribe to one newsgroup, and you're assaulted with 1000 posts per day, written by folks who probably barely know how to breathe who feel obligated to crosspost in about a hundred other newsgroups. Anyway, that being said (*G*) I've found that I actually enjoy Pine's newsreader, since anymore I only subscribe to three low volume newsgroups, where threading and other advanced features aren't really a concern. It's kind of handy to have the newsgroups listed right below my mail folders. ---------------------------- Dana Booth ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:53:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA27493 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA23083 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:47:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA23079 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:47:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPllw-00038YC; Tue, 19 Nov 96 00:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Charles J. Soper IV" Subject: Global address book bug Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:50:33 -0700 Message-ID: <328BB049.2A58@pr.erau.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pine 3.95 is giving me a few problems...I've installed it and all seems to be working well except for the global address book. Some of my users can't seem to access it...when entering the address book and scrolling down to the global portion, it will say 'permission denied'... Has anybody else run across this, and if so how do I fix it? Any help greatly appriciated... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:32:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA31526 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:32:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA26226 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:28:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA26222 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:28:27 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id LAA17969; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:28:21 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id LAA18636; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:26:24 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:16:45 +0100 (MET) To: "Charles J. Soper IV" cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Global address book bug In-Reply-To: <328BB049.2A58@pr.erau.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Charles J. Soper IV wrote: -> Pine 3.95 is giving me a few problems...I've installed it and all seems -> to be working well except for the global address book. Some of my users -> can't seem to access it...when entering the address book and scrolling -> down to the global portion, it will say 'permission denied'... -> -> Has anybody else run across this, and if so how do I fix it? -> -> Any help greatly appriciated... -> Check: - Value (the path) of in your pine-config-file(s) - Permission of the global-address-book and the corresponding look-up-file (global-address-book.lu) - Permission of all directories on the path from / to global-address-book. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:26:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA16278 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA27839 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:22:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA27835 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:22:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPp82-00038XC; Tue, 19 Nov 96 04:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: terzic@mda.ca (Veselin Terzic) Subject: pine-3.93 under IRIX Date: 15 Nov 1996 20:19:13 GMT Message-ID: <56ij81$ics@mailer.mda.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm running pine-393 against cyrus-1.4 IMAP server. whenever i get new message in INBOX, some of my already read emails from INBOX change flag to "N" (like new). any clue? thanks -- Veselin Terzic | MacDonald Dettwiler MIME accepted terzic@mda.ca | 13800 Commerce Parkway Phone: (604) 278-3411 Fax: 278-3786| Richmond, B.C.;Canada V6V 2J3 include | PGP Key ID: 0xE24588D5 at keyservers From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:42:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA32646 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA26186 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:37:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA26176 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:37:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPpPT-00038XC; Tue, 19 Nov 96 04:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lainer@prince.vm.ee (Lainer Laurent) Subject: PINE build problem Date: 15 Nov 1996 09:41:55 GMT Message-ID: <56hdt3$goh@horos.kbfi.ee> hi, why my pine building scrip tells me after 'Making Pine': *** No rule to make target '../c-client/c-client.a', needed by 'pine'. Stop. i'm using Slackware Linux, kernel 1.2.13. Lainer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 05:39:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA20300 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 05:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA28668 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 05:32:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA28664 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 05:32:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPqHm-00038XC; Tue, 19 Nov 96 05:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATTHEW BOULTER Subject: Export All Messages At Once? Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:49:51 +1000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering how I export ALL my messages in a certain folder at once. I am using pine on our Uni's file server, and I open up a folder such as a newsgroup, I want to be able to export every message one by one, yes all 1500 messages. I know you can select the messages by pressing ' ; ' and selecting the specific criteria. I tried to use e for export but that just didn't work. The only reason why I figured it didn't work is because it doesn't know what name to call each file? If that is the problem is there a way to use a certain string as the filename mask at the start, say 'news.' then have it sequentially number each message after that? If anyone can help PLEASE mail me with any suggestions. Thanx in advance, Matt. m.boulter@student.qut.edu.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:28:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA00461 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA27616 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:24:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pirates.Armstrong.EDU (pirates.Armstrong.EDU [130.254.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA27612 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:24:10 -0800 Received: from localhost by pirates.Armstrong.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA29317; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:24:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:24:08 -0500 (EST) From: Stephanie Coy X-Sender: coysteph@pirates To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:03:04 -0500 From: john.brown@ncemcs.com, jane.griffin@ncemcs.com, John Brown To: Multiple Recipients - Overflow Header Below Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stef: here is the message i was talking about in the last message ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Author: Jane Griffin at CECRALHQ Date: 11/18/96 8:06 AM Received: from ncemcs.com by internal.ncemcs.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.8d for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1996Nov18.074903.1824.5043; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:49:03 -0500 Received: from chaos.wg.com ([198.85.47.240]) by mail.ncemcs.com with ESMTP id <41478>; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:00:47 -0500 Received: from smtp.wg.com ([198.85.45.14]) by chaos.wg.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA22412; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cc:Mail by smtp.wg.com id AA848331981; Mon, 18 Nov 96 07:51:03 EST Date:Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:51:03 -0500 From: "Armstrong, Hugh" Message-Id: <9610188483.AA848331981@smtp.wg.com> To: carmstro@skipjack.bluecrab.org, ctg80753@ctg.com, dcblack800@AOL.COM, ermosher@nando.net, hugh1@freemark.com, jane.griffin@internal.ncemcs.com, jtwc@intrex.net, ltayrose@ksccary.com, RGJ5823@AOL.COM, sarms@apa.com Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Forewarned is forearmed. ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Author: Bob Winter at WG-RAL-SALES Date: 11/14/96 4:12 PM just doing what it says.... >>From: Michael O. Bowers -- IBM PC Offerings & Programs >> T/L 255-0984 (919) 517, Fax (800) 426-4182, Bld 203/DD140 >> 3039 Cornwallis Rd, RTP, NC 27709 / MBOWERS@vnet.ibm.com >>Subject: Urgent Message--Read Immediately >> >>WARNING !!!!! URGENT !!!!! WARNING !!!!! >> >>COPY AND PASS THIS WARNING ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW -- DO IT NOW !!!!! >> >>A new, ultra-dangerous computer virus exists, which will permanently >>destroy your hard DRIVE. Do NOT -- repeat -- do NOT download AND do NOT >>-- repeat -- do NOT even READ anything if the "Subject" or "Re" lines >>include the word "Good" -- specifically, "Good News" or "Good Times." >>Delete the message immediately without reading it!! >> >>Full details follow: >> >>There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If >>you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times," DO NOT >>read the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. >> >>Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title "Good Times" >>nationwide, if you get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It >>has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. >>Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about. >> >>The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major >>importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new >>computer virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ONLINE that is >>unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other more well-known >>viruses such as "Stoned," "Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in >>comparison to the prospects of this newest creation by a warped >>mentality. What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the >>fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new >>computer to be affected and spread through the existing e-mail systems >>of the Internet. >> >>Once a computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If the >>computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If >>the program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in >>an nth-complexity infinite binary loop - which can severely damage the >>processor if left running that way too long. Unfortunately, most novice >>computer users will not realize what is happening until it is far too >>late. Luckily, there is one sure means of detecting what is now known as >>the "Good Times" virus. >> >>It always travels to new computers the same way, in a text e-mail >>message with the subject line reading "Good Times." >> >>Avoiding infection is easy once the file has been received simply by NOT >>READING IT! The act of loading the file into the mail server's ASCII >>buffer causes the "Good Times" mainline program to initialize and >>execute. >> >>The program is highly intelligent - it will send copies of itself to >>everyone whose e-mail address is contained in a receive-mail file or a >>sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then proceed to trash the >>computer it is running on. >> >>The bottom line is: If you receive a file with the subject line "Good >>Times," delete it immediately! Do not read it. Rest assured that >>whosever's name was on the "From" line was surely struck by the virus. >>Warn your friends and local system users of this newest threat to the >>Internet! It could save them a lot of time and money. >> >>PASS THIS WARNING ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW -- DO IT NOW !!!!! >> >>WARNING !!!!! URGENT !!!!! WARNING !!!!! >> >> >> > > > ------------------- Overflow-To: coysteph@pirates.armstrong.edu , richard.basener@internal.ncemcs.com (Richard Basener), chris.caligan@internal.ncemcs.com (Chris Caligan), john.gajda@internal.ncemcs.com (John Gajda), lee.hux@internal.ncemcs.com (Lee Hux), brian.linens@internal.ncemcs.com (Brian Linens), kathleen.robinson@internal.ncemcs.com (Kathleen Robinson), david.sofra@internal.ncemcs.com (David Sofra), jane.griffin@internal.ncemcs.com (Jane Griffin), carmstro@skipjack.bluecrab.org (carmstro), ctg80753@ctg.com (ctg80753), dcblack800@AOL.COM (dcblack800), ermosher@nando.net (ermosher), hugh1@freemark.com (hugh1), jtwc@intrex.net (jtwc), ltayrose@ksccary.com (ltayrose), RGJ5823@AOL.COM (RGJ5823), sarms@apa.com (sarms) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:51:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA01943 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA28840 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:47:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.122]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA28831 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:47:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (hayet000@localhost) by duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA01123 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:46:37 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE: hayet000 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:46:37 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Haye To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE HI=20 PLEASE EXCUSE MY POOR ENGLISH AND TRY TO HELP ME WITH A POOR ENGLISH TOO..... I AM FRENCH............ HOW CAN I HAVE/DO A TALK with people who have an e mail adress but who do not use PINE, it means who do not use Duchesse, Marie, Berlioz, Tolouse and so on.... thanks for an answer.... Thomas =B4 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:07:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA02386 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA29094 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:01:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netra01 ([194.83.36.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA29090 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:01:50 -0800 Received: from ZA0020.bcftcs.ac.uk by netra01 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA26066; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:10:52 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961119160223.00689b6c@mail.bcftcs.ac.uk> X-Sender: za0020@mail.bcftcs.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:02:23 +0000 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Zahid Amin Subject: Another multiple-user problem ! I wish to allow students to telnet into the e-mail server (SUN Netra) to use PINE, however I have been informed that this will cause undue strain on the Netra. Is there a method by which we can provide a '95 front-end to PINE, remembering that it cannot be specific to any user. In summary, what I'm looking for is a solution without using telnet, through WIN '95 allowing user to enter a user-id and password to retrieve mail using the PINE system on the Netra. I am currently running tcp/ip & ipx/spx. Any ideas ? Many thanks. Zahid Amin MIS Officer Birmingham College of Food Tel : 0121 243 0137 Fax: 0121 604 1101 E-Mail : z.amin@bcftcs.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:07:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA02004 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:07:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA29128 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:03:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA29124 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:03:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vPse6-00038YC; Tue, 19 Nov 96 08:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: batchman@shell.liberty.com (Shoeless in San Jose ) Subject: Re: UUDECODE Date: 17 Nov 1996 05:36:09 GMT Message-ID: <56m889$q6d@news.liberty.com> References: <328A60F0.2F57@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Marc Hairstone (MHAIRSTONE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET) wrote: : I receivedmail with the explanation to decode the file use the UUDECODE : program. What is this program, what does it do, and where do I get it? : Thanks : Marc H. If you're decoding them in UNIX, there should be a UUDECODER already there. Just type uudecode followed by the filename. If you want to do this in DOS, I suggest going to oak.oakland.edu/pub/simtelnet/msdos/00_start and looking for uudecode programs. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:55:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA03789 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA01916 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:42:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA01912 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:42:28 -0800 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp6.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp6.UU.NET [192.48.96.37]) id QQbqni10935; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp6.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:42:26 -0500 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA848421429 Tue, 19 Nov 96 08:37:09 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 08:37:09 Message-Id: <9610198484.AA848421429@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Re: Pine Size & Config Help Frederick Moor: We're running Pine v3.95 under IBM AIX v4.1.4. The source code was pulled from cac.washington.edu and compiled on our machine. Most of the folks who have simply downloaded the binaries seem to have had many problems; so, we did the compiling ourselves. I hope this information helps you out. - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------- After downloading the source files, the following steps were done: 1. Copy the pine3.95.tar file into the local programs directory: mkdir /programs mv pine3.95.tar /programs/. 2. Unzip the Pine email program into its directory tree: cd /programs cat pine3.95.tar | tar xvf - 3. Update the PICO editor to not freeze under AIX 4.1 (which changes Pico editor to use terminfo). These alterations were recommended by a couple of Pine sites. a. Move into the PICO directory: cd /programs/pine3.95/pico b. Edit makefile.a41 change tcap.c/tcap.o entries to tinfo.c/tinfo.o c. Edit os_unix.h and update the following (note the added a41 define): /* Machine/OS definition */ #if defined(ptx) || defined(sgi) || defined(sv4) || defined(sco) || defined(a41) #define TERMINFO 1 /* Use TERMINFO */ #else #define TERMCAP 1 /* Use TERMCAP */ #endif d. Edit tinfo.c (in routine tinfoopen()): if (Pmaster) { /* * setupterm() automatically retrieves the value * of the TERM variable. */ int err; setupterm ((char *)0, 1, &err); /* <-- Add cast */ if (err != 1) return FALSE; } else { /* * setupterm() issues a message and exits, if the * terminfo data base is gone or the term type is * unknown, if arg2 is 0. */ setupterm ((char *)0, 1, (int *)0); /* <-- Add cast */ } With these small changes Pine 3.95 has been rock solid under AIX 4.1.4 or 4.2. 4. Make sure the /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/bin directories exist before you go any further. MUST be done prior to compiling the Pine email program. 5. Make sure that /usr/local/bin is in everyone's path, so these programs can be run. The /usr/local/bin directory is where UNIX expects to find site-specific programs (such as email, utiliites). 6. Compile the Pine email program for AIX v4.1.x: cd /programs/pine3.95 build clean build a41 7. Link the Pine binary programs into the directory that all users are supposed to see: ln -s /programs/pine3.95/bin/imapd /usr/local/bin/imapd ln -s /programs/pine3.95/bin/mtest /usr/local/bin/mtest ln -s /programs/pine3.95/bin/pico /usr/local/bin/pico ln -s /programs/pine3.95/bin/pilot /usr/local/bin/pilot ln -s /programs/pine3.95/bin/pine /usr/local/bin/pine Note: Instead of linking the programs, a script/batch file can be written that will run Pine; that script file could be created in the /admin/scripts directory: /admin/scripts/pine 8. Create and update the Pine global config file for all users: a. pine -conf > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf vi /usr/local/lib/pine.conf b. Edit the default printer for all users: personal-print-command=HP Laserjet IIISI [] lp -dhpiiisi_1 c. Edit the SMTP server connection, if SENDMAIL should not be used and if SMTP should be talked to directly: smtp-server= ??? don't know what to put here 9. Update the user menu to call the appropriate programs. 10. Make a new global addressbook (from the /etc/passwd file): a. # pine-addressbook b. Edit the output /tmp/.addressbook.new file and strip out the junk email addresses we do not want in the addressbook. c. # mv /tmp/.addressbook.new /usr/local/lib/.addressbook d. # pine-address-index Below is a copy of our /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file, after installation of Pine v3.95. # /usr/local/lib/pine.conf -- system wide pine configuration # # Values here affect all pine users unless they've overidden the values # in their .pinerc files. A copy of this file with current comments may # be obtained by running "pine -conf". It will be printed to standard output. # # For a variable to be unset its value must be null/blank. This is not the # same as the value of "empty string", which can be used to effectively # "unset" a variable that has a default or previously assigned value. # To set a variable to the empty string its value should be "". # Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and default to "no". # Except for feature-list items, which are additive, values set in the # .pinerc file replace those in pine.conf, and those in pine.conf.fixed # over-ride all others. Features can be over-ridden in .pinerc or # pine.conf.fixed by pre-pending the feature name with "no-". # # (These comments are automatically inserted.) # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name= # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=hercules.yakima.com # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server= # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server= # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). inbox-path= # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders= # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] folder-collections= # List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host # than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[] # Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[] news-collections= # List of folder pairs; the first indicates a folder to archive, and the # second indicates the folder read messages in the first should # be moved to. incoming-archive-folders= # List of context and folder pairs, delimited by a space, to be offered for # pruning each month. For example: {host1}mail/[] mumble pruned-folders= # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-fcc= # Over-rides default path for saved-msg folder, e.g. =saved-messages (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}saved-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: saved-messages (Unix) or SAVEMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-saved-msg-folder= # Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses # first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4). # Default: postponed-msgs (Unix) or POSTPOND.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn. postponed-folder= # Pine compares this value with the first folder collection directory. # If they match (or no folder collections are defined), and the directory # does not exist, Pine will create and use it. Default: ~/mail mail-directory= # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. read-message-folder= # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature signature-file= # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name global-address-book=/usr/local/lib/.addressbook # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name address-book= # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list= # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) initial-keystroke-list= # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs= # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs= # When viewing messages, include this list of headers viewer-hdrs= # Determines default folder name for Saves... # Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used. # Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC). saved-msg-name-rule= # Determines default name for Fcc... # Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used. # Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.) fcc-name-rule= # Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices: # subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival". sort-key= # Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort, # fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname # Default: "fullname-with-lists-last". addrbook-sort-rule= # Sets the default folder and collectionoffered at the Goto Command's prompt. goto-default-rule= # Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII. # Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9). character-set= # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. editor= # Specifies the program invoked by ^T in the Composer. speller= # Specifies the column of the screen where the composer should wrap. composer-wrap-column= # Specifies the string to insert when replying to message. reply-indent-string= # Specifies the string to use when sending a message with no to or cc. empty-header-message= # Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments). image-viewer= # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= # Your default printer selection printer= # List of special print commands personal-print-command=Yakima HP 3si [] lp -dhpiiisi_1 # The system wide standard printers standard-printer= # Full name for bug report address used by "Report Bug" command. # Default: Pine Developers bugs-fullname= # Email address used to send bug reports. # Default: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu bugs-address= # Program/Script used by "Report Bug" command. No default. bugs-additional-data= # Full name for suggestion address used by "Report Bug" command. # Default: Pine Developers suggest-fullname= # Email address used to send suggestions. # Default: pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu suggest-address= # Full name for "local support" address used by "Report Bug" command. # Default: Local Support local-fullname= # Email address used to send to "local support". # Default: postmaster local-address= # Force these address book entries into all writable personal address books. # Syntax is forced-abook-entry=nickname|fullname|address # This is a comma-separated list of entries, each with syntax above. # Existing entries with same nickname are not replaced. # Example: help|Help Desk|help@ourdomain.com forced-abook-entry= # This is a number between 1 and 5. It is the number of times a user will # have to enter a password when they run the keyboard lock command in the # main menu. Default is 1. kblock-passwd-count= # This names the path to an alternative program, and any necessary arguments, # to be used in posting mail messages. Example: # /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi # or, # /usr/local/bin/sendit.sh # The latter a script found in Pine distribution's contrib/util directory. # NOTE: The program MUST read the message to be posted on standard input, # AND operate in the style of sendmail's "-t" option. sendmail-path= # This names the root of the tree to which the user is restricted when reading # and writing folders and files. For example, on Unix ~/work confines the # user to the subtree beginning with their work subdirectory. # (Note: this alone is not sufficient for preventing access. You will also # need to restrict shell access and so on, see Pine Technical Notes.) # Default: not set (so no restriction) operating-dir= # This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into # after MIME decoding, prior to display. display-filters= # This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME # encoding, prior to sending sending-filters= # A list of alternate addresses the user is known by alt-addresses= # This is a list of formats for address books. Each entry in the list is made # up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in # which order. See help text addressbook-formats= # This gives a format for displaying the index. It is made # up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in # which order. See help text index-format= # The number of lines of overlap when scrolling through message text viewer-overlap= # Number of lines from top and bottom of screen where single # line scrolling occurs. scroll-margin= # The number of seconds to sleep after writing a status message status-message-delay= # The approximate number of seconds between checks for new mail mail-check-interval= # Full path and name of NEWSRC file newsrc-path= # Path and filename of news configation's active file. # The default is typically "/usr/lib/news/active". news-active-file-path= # Directory containing system's news data. # The default is typically "/usr/spool/news" news-spool-directory= # Path and filename of the program used to upload text from your terminal # emulator's into Pine's composer. upload-command= # Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by # the upload-command variable. # Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the upload. upload-command-prefix= # Path and filename of the program used to download text via your terminal # emulator from Pine's export and save commands. download-command= # Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by # the download-command variable. # Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the downlaod. download-command-prefix= # Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mailcap-search-path= # Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mimetype-search-path= # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a network # connection. The default is 30, the minimum is 5, and the maximum is # system defined (typically 75). tcp-open-timeout= # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. # Zero disables rsh altogether. rsh-open-timeout= # Sets the version number Pine will use as a threshold for offering # its new version message on startup. new-version-threshold= ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Pine Size & Config Help Author: fmoor@juno.com (Frederick C Moor) at INTERNET Date: 11/19/96 8:23 AM Michael, I was browsing the pine-info today and say your note about the difference in the size of Pine for 3.2x and 4.x. While I have not compiled pine for either of these environments, I can tell you that the sizes you list are consistent with the file sizes shown in the binary ftp @ cac.washington.edu. I was curious as to why the 4.x version would be smaller when I noticed the difference. I have downloaded the 3.2.x binaries and am now in the process of trying to set pine up on my AIX box. The documentation is rather misleading when it says that all one has to do to run the application is to move the binaries to /usr/bin. I have done that but I receive "No host name of domain set" when I try to run the application. The documentation seems to indicate that nothing needs to be set for the user-domain!?! I am in the process of studying the documentation that I downloaded to try and determine what needs to be in the pine.conf. However, to make the process a bit more efficient, I thought I might ask somebody who has set up pine if I could see their pine.conf so that I can see what one looks like. I understand that many of the variables will need to be changed but I think and example would be helpful. Any help that you could offer would be much appreciated. Frederick Moor Marco Crane & Rigging Co. Phoenix, Arizona v:602.272.2671 f:602.352.0413 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:21:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA26965 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA03989 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:15:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.dnsserver.com (ns.dnsserver.com [208.5.7.252]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA03981 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:15:25 -0800 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 1996 15:05:58 -0000 Received: from www.clever.net (netperfect@207.15.222.251) by ns.dnsserver.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1996 15:05:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (netperfect@localhost) by www.clever.net (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA16666 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:11:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:11:39 -0500 (EST) From: netperfect To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern: I have been using Pine for two years. However, this is the first time that I find a problem with the software. Lately, whenever I open up Pine, I always get a message saying: Error writing /web/guide/netperfect/.pinerc : Permission denied I wonder if this is a problem caused by my mail storage space, becuase now as I am composing this message, I am getting a warning message saying "No room for file: Permission denied." Thanks for your help! NetPerfect From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:14:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA08003 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA07092 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:09:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from enigma (enigma.rider.edu [192.107.45.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA07087 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:09:05 -0800 Received: from enigma.rider.edu by enigma.rider.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #15764) id <01IC18Y8NIXC8X79GO@enigma.rider.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:07:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Judith R. Galang" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT unsubscribe Judith Galang From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:13:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA17509 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA17209 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:10:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA17204 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:09:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA11854 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:09:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:09:53 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: telnet -list address please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Will appreciate someone posting a telnet-L address plse (have surfed for one without luck) Thank you Acknowledging off-topic Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:54:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA02371 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA19583 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:51:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA19579 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:51:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQ6TV-00038YC; Tue, 19 Nov 96 22:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kkelley@linet06.li.net (Kelley) Subject: Test,Don't read! Date: 15 Nov 1996 16:56:49 GMT Message-ID: <56i7ch$4qm@linet06.li.net> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:45:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA18138 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA18454 for pine-info-out; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:41:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA18449 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:41:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQ7HR-00038YC; Tue, 19 Nov 96 23:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snakey@Glue.umd.edu (David Andrew Ross) Subject: Saving messages crashes PC-Pine... Date: 16 Nov 1996 21:40:28 GMT Message-ID: <56lccc$bfd@hecate.umd.edu> My PC-Pine crashes when I go "To Flders" after pressing "S" while reading a message. I've got a pretty complicated setup going with multiple inboxes, etc. Also, it will crash if I try the "Prev Collection" or "Next Collection" options. I'm in NT 4.0, and the messages I get look like this: The instruction at "0x0046f4a6" referenced memory at "0x5d7365d3". The memory could not be "read". Any ideas? -- David Ross dross@pobox.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:34:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA18658 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA21730 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:30:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbmb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA21726 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:30:17 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA29011; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:04:21 +0530 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:04:05 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbmb To: netperfect cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, the following query is not exactly about pine. but still i would be thankful if somebody can answer it or tell me of a suitable mailing list. i have a unix based shell connection with 14,4 bps speed. it is a dial in account. can i use netscape or netphone on the same? thanks, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:51:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA12431 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA21972 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:47:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA21952 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:46:55 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:45:44 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA18975; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:45:43 GMT Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:45:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: James Syme cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: More info on BCC and LCC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The "Bcc:" header (Blind Carbon Copy) takes a list of e-mail addresses of people to whom the message is to be sent. Anyone listed in the Bcc field receives a copy of the message, but this fact is not revealed to the others, nor to those listed as recipients in the To or Cc fields. However some mail delivery software may reveal the Bcc recipients as a series of "Apparently-to:" headers added to the delivered message unless at least one recipient is listed in the "To:" field. Thus if you use Bcc then you should also make sure you have at least one e-mail address present in the To field. This could be your own perhaps, or a special address of the form: Descriptive text name:; eg, Various Recipients:; (The important part is the ":;" at the end.) The "Lcc:" field is designed to be used with Pine's Distribution Lists (which can be set up in its Address Book). Here you just type the nickname of the distribution list into the Lcc field. This "expands" to the list of recipients, and the long descriptive name of the list is then automatically placed in the To field, along with the magic ":;". *** All this information is available in Pine's built-in help: just start *** your message and give the ^R (Rich Header) command... then put your *** cursor on one of the headers you want to learn about (eg, Lcc or Bcc) *** and ask Pine for help by typing ^G (Get Help - shown in the Command *** Menu at the bottom of the screen). The e-mail addresses must be typed in by hand into the header field, or set up as a distribution list in your address book. There is no direct way to read a file's contents into these fields as a list of e-mail addresses. However that is not to say it can't be fudged: providing the file contains a comma-separated list of e-mail addresses you can read it into the main Message Text area (using ^R there to Read File) then cut (multiple ^K's or a Mark-Move-^Kut) and pasted (unKut with ^U) into the appropriate header field. However in the longer term you may want to look at setting up and using a Distribution List within Pine's Address Book ("A" from the Main Menu screen). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, James Syme wrote: > What is the format distinction, or any others, between BCC and LCC? Is > each simply an ASCII list file of E-mail addresses placed in the > appropriate field? Finally, is each file list placed in the mail > directory to be accessed? Thanks for your response > > Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:53:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA18726 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA22035 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:50:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA22008 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:49:44 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:49:07 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA21161; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:49:09 GMT Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:49:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Royal Hargrove cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: SENDING A COPY OF A MESSAGE TO SEVERAL RECIPIENTS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Certainly... 1. Start your message in Pine. 2. Put your cursor on the "To:" field 3. Ask Pine for help by typing ^G (shown in the Command Menu at the bottom of the screen) 4. Read help text (especially the second paragraph, straight after: ------------------------ | Email Address Format | ------------------------ ) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Royal Hargrove wrote: > Could someone please tell me how to send a copy of a message to several > recipients using Pine? Thanks very much. > Royal@rahul.net > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:00:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA12936 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:00:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA22093 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:57:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA22089 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:57:19 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:54:31 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA24258; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:54:22 GMT Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:54:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: MATTHEW BOULTER cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Export All Messages At Once? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" It *is* possible to export all (or just selected) messages in a folder to a file. It is *not* possible (except doing each in turn yourself) all (or selected) messages in a folder into _separate_ files. If you wish you could do the former and then write a little program to post-process the file containing the exported messages into separate files for each message. To export all messages in a folder into one file... 0. Make sure you have the "enable-aggregate-command-set" option enabled in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. 1. Go to the Index screen of the foler you want to export the messages from. 2. Type: ; ... Select A ... All messages A ... Apply a command to the selected messages E ... apply the Export command filename ... give the name of the file to contain the exported messages Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, MATTHEW BOULTER wrote: > > I was wondering how I export ALL my messages in a certain folder at once. > I am using pine on our Uni's file server, and I open up a folder such as a > newsgroup, I want to be able to export every message one by one, yes all > 1500 messages. I know you can select the messages by pressing ' ; ' and > selecting the specific criteria. I tried to use e for export but that just > didn't work. The only reason why I figured it didn't work is because it > doesn't know what name to call each file? If that is the problem is there > a way to use a certain string as the filename mask at the start, say > 'news.' then have it sequentially number each message after that? > If anyone can help PLEASE mail me with any suggestions. > > Thanx in advance, > > Matt. > m.boulter@student.qut.edu.au > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:05:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA02645 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA22145 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:02:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA22141 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:01:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQ9QR-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 01:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Once more: "send back"/autoreply Date: 19 Nov 1996 20:49:32 GMT Message-ID: References: In-reply-to: ohrt@ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at's message of 13 Nov 1996 08:39:25 -0800 In article ohrt@ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at (Diethard Ohrt) writes: I already mailed this to the list -- the problem persists: I wanted to test the "automatically send back" feature from the procmailex man pages, but it doesn't work at all. Perhaps this will be a clue. I just tried to respond to you directly, and I got a bounce stating mail: cannot append to /var/mail/ohrt mail: cannot create dead.letter 550 ... Insufficient permission From here it looks like a problem with your mail delivery agent: procmail, /bin/mail, or whatever. Hope it helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov http://www.dc-sage.org/bios/rick_troxel 301/435-2983 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:07:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA20316 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA21895 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:02:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA21881 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:02:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQBHY-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 03:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roessler@sobolev.rhein.de (Thomas Roessler) Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 19 Nov 1996 17:11:23 GMT Message-ID: <56spnr$aqe@sobolev.rhein.de> References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> In article , Paul O Bartlett wrote: > I agree that Pine is probably not the most powerful or "best" >(whatever that means) newsreader available on mnay systems. (I say >"probably" because I am not widely experienced in using other >newsreaders.) However, many things in life are a tradeoff. Despite >the shortcomings of Pine as newsreader, I still use it amd prefer it, >precisely because I do not have to "switch between mail and news >programs" at all, let alone in "a matter of seconds." When I compare it to - e.g. - slrn, pine is missing many, many valuable features without which you can't survive in today's Usenet (except you are confining yourself to very few low-traffic groups). Just the two most important points: - There is no such thing as scoring. - There is no such thing as References-based threading. BUT - do we really want Pine to be a first-class nwesreader? Do we really need yet another Emacs/Netscape? Is it a good thing at all that pine includes a news reader? I don't think so. I don't think that one program should try to do almost everything (well, emacs is an exception ;-). I don't object against a newsreader with all the modern features that has a user interface similar to the mail user agent and integrates it when you reply to a news article. But I'd really like the two of them to be put into different programs - maybe with lots of shared code, but that can be put into a shared library. >tradeoff I, for one, am fully willing to make. (And in general, I do >not find Pine "slow and sluggish." My current problem posting to news >is not a Pine problem as such.) Well, the pine which is running here currently takes about 14M of RAM after having closed a rather huge mail folder. I wouldn't call that small or lean. tlr -- Thomas Roessler http://www.rhein.de/~roessler/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 06:26:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA20018 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 06:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA25641 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 06:22:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA25637 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 06:22:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQDTt-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 06:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Krispie Subject: Reading news in Pine Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:29:29 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I've recently (with a bit of help) managed to configure pine to let me read the news groups, however when I have read a message it marks it as read but next time I access the newsgroup it is marked as unread. If anyone could throw some light on this I'd be most appreciative. Cheers, Kris. "Trust The Computer; The Computer is your GENERAL PROTECTION FAULT AT 002:0A0D" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:27:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA11180 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:27:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA27316 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:22:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA27312 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:22:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQGKs-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 09:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: news index Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:13:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Greg L Stassi wrote: > in the index how come it says everybody's name or email address and for my > posts it says: "to:comp.mail.pine."?! Because that's the way it works. :-) It is presumed that you already know your own name, in which case to whom you sent something might be more useful information. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:46:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA20954 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA29723 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:42:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA29719 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:42:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQGe8-00038ZC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 09:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul M. Bauer, J.D." Subject: Pine to OpenMail Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:02:55 -0500 Message-ID: <32932BAF.75D3@law.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forces beyond our control have forced our Pine users to switch to HP OpenMail. Does anyone know a way to convert Pine mail folders to the equivalent in OpenMail? How about address books? Any help would be greatly appreciated, as the forces have decreed that we make this switch quite soon. Thanks! ============================================================== Paul M. Bauer || Harvard Law School Library Computer Support Specialist || 1545 Massachusetts Avenue 617-252-9639 || Athenaeum House pbauer@law.harvard.edu || Cambridge, MA 02138 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:57:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA18402 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA29898 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:50:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA29892 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:50:26 -0800 From: Gln1208@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA26265 for Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:50:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:50:25 -0500 Message-ID: <961120125024_1284763580@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine and SCO Unix We are looking for binary and source for Pine running under SCO Unix Operserver 5. Thank You GLN1208@AOL.COM From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:56:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA20776 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA03065 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:51:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cse.uta.edu (cse.uta.edu [129.107.2.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA03061 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:51:13 -0800 Received: by cse.uta.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA08248; Wed, 20 Nov 96 14:51:09 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:51:08 -0600 (CST) From: Prashant A Shirolkar To: Pine Info Subject: Address addition directly from mail body Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi ! I would like to know whether 'pine e-mail software' provides a procedure by which one can extract an e-mail address from the BODY (not Header) of the e-mail and add it to the Address Book, for example, abcd jklm and so on .... Just as it were in the header is it possible under the current versions of pine to add it to the address w/o actually typing all of it since there maybe a large number of them to be added at one time directly from the mail body. Prashant From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:01:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA30080 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA05207 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:56:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from matem.unam.mx (gauss.matem.unam.mx [132.248.17.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA05203 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:56:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by matem.unam.mx (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01560; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:56:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:56:37 -0600 (CST) From: Xu Fan X-Sender: xufan@gauss To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear sir: I want to ask a question: How to send a math file by e-mail? Your help will be important to me and be appreciated. Best Regards, Yours sincerely, Xu Fan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:58:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA30809 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA04702 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:53:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA04696 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:53:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQKYm-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 13:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: braun@daytona.tunl.duke.edu (Richard Braun) Subject: Re: PGP with Pine ? Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:36:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <55tqgm$koq@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <56hk23$g3r@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <56hk23$g3r@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com>, hewett@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com (Rick Hewett) wrote: > Recently cdent@detritus.ucs.indiana.edu (Chris Dent) wrote: > > things. One of them is a link to inegrating Pine and PGP: > > > > http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html > > > > I followed these instructions to get myself setup and it works very well. > > The only niggle I have with this setup (which is _much_ better than any of > the alternatives I've come across) is that there seems to be no easy way > of viewing or exporting the raw PGP message without first reversing step If anyone is interested, I hacked the above mentioned script because I was on a _s_l_o_w_ machine and if someone wanted to ruin my day they could just send me a few encrypted email. This gives you the option to cancel out of the decryption. Also I changed the filter by removing the "_LEADING" because a few messages I received had some extra text in front of the pgp message. The only thing I would like to see improved in such a viewing filter would be for any unencrypted text to be displayed along with the decrypted message. =========================================================================== #!/bin/sh # The Bourne shell built-in echo does not understand the "-n" option, # so use the standalone ucb echo, usually in /usr/ucb/echo. /usr/ucb/echo -n "Message is PGP encrypted, do you wish to decrypt? [y or n] " > /dev/tty read inq /dev/tty read junk Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:48:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA27860 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA09657 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:43:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA09653 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:43:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQMFf-00038YC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 15:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: How does Pine separate messages? Date: 19 Nov 1996 21:00:15 GMT Message-ID: References: <199611182220.OAA12423@PEAK.ORG> That was a good explanation, but I dont see the '>' before your From where you say it should be. I also forwarded this message to myself to see if I get it but I still didnt. ???? --Vikas On 18 Nov 1996 14:30:53 -0800, Timothy J Luoma wrote: >I'll show you what I mean with this sentence: "This message is from >me to you." Now that's OK because the word "From " is not the >first word. (It also isn't capitalized.). > >But the next "From " will get a ">" in this: >This >Message >Is >From >Me > >the "From " that I wrote doesn't have a ">", but when it gets to >you it will > >This >Is >A >From >without >a >space >after >it From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:54:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA02816 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA09235 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:48:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA09218 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:48:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQNH6-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 16:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Address addition directly from mail body Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:37:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Nov 1996, Prashant A Shirolkar wrote: > I would like to know whether 'pine e-mail software' provides a procedure > by which one can extract an e-mail address from the BODY (not Header) of > the e-mail and add it to the Address Book, for example, [...] Yes, Pine can do this if it is a recent enough version. I am using version 3.94. (The current one is 3.95.) As a test, I entered the (T)ake command while viewing your message. It gave me the opportunity to select the sample email addresses you had written into the body of your message. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:12:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA03430 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA11881 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:08:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA11877 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:08:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQNcg-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 17:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rivera@hal.lamar.edu (Richard Rivera - System's Software Analyst) Subject: Search for best VMS version... Message-ID: <1996Nov20.182615.1237@hal> Date: 20 Nov 96 18:26:15 +1700 Hi all, Where is the latest and greatest complete version of Pine for OpenVMS on Alpha. Any help would be truly appreciated. Send all messages to rivera@hal.lamar.edu TIA to all. ========================================================================= Richard Rivera | E-mail: | Office Phone: System Software Analyst | rivera@ma208a.lamar.edu | (409)880-8030 P. O. Box 10020 | rivera@hal.lamar.edu | Lamar University | Office: | Computer Center: Beaumont, Tx 77710 | Rm 1635, Cherry Bldg | (409)880-8498 ========================================================================= Check out my page: http://hal.lamar.edu/~rivera ========================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:18:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA02129 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA09857 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:13:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA09853 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:13:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQNgN-00038YC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 17:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Imap 4.1 BETA Question Date: 20 Nov 1996 21:24:27 GMT Message-ID: <56vsub$msj@due.unit.no> References: <56t6q8$i2@leo.tr-riscs.panam.edu> In article <56t6q8$i2@leo.tr-riscs.panam.edu>, N. Robison wrote: > [SELECT failed: Can't open mailbox : no such folder] > >Anyone have any ideas, I'd appreciate any help. Idea: I believe, when using Imap, the folder 'username' would actually refer to '~/username' rather than '/var/spool/mail/username' (or wherever the mail spool directory is. That is, even though the file which contains your INBOX may be named 'username', it is not in the user's private directory and should still be referred to as 'inbox' in folder specifications. That is, use {mailhost}inbox rather than {mailhost}username. Better yet, use {mailhost/user=username}inbox. (An insufficiently documented option.) Greetings, Ørjan. -- "I don't think USENET is an anarchy. It isn't that well-organised." - Simon Slavin -- "I don't think USENET is an anarchy. It isn't that well-organised." - Simon Slavin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:47:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA19091 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA10460 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:43:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA10456 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:43:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQO9Y-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 17:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Folders. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:59:54 +930 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 17 Nov 1996, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > Hello, > Is there a way where by which, messages sent to a particular address is > saved in a particular folder automatically? For example, I send a lot of > mail to Pine mailing list. I would like to save all the messasges send by (You certainly do :-) > me to the Pine list to a separate folder automatically. fcc-name-rule by-recipient will save a folder-carbon-copy of each(?) message to a seperate folder, according to who it was sent to. A better solution may be to make an address book entry, and include in it an FCC field... Go into the address book screen and look at help. Matt. --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1197 Top Fermentation is Good From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:48:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA25770 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA12545 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:43:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA12541 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:43:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQO9g-00038YC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 17:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roessler@sobolev.rhein.de (Thomas Roessler) Subject: NOT: New virus on the Internet! Date: 15 Nov 1996 00:31:15 GMT Message-ID: <56gdkj$5s2@sobolev.rhein.de> References: In article , Genel M Uehara gave us Good Times, The Next Generation. THIS IS A HOAX. I include an advisory on Good Times which is PGP-signed by the German CERT. Pardon the German text in the beginning of the note. tlr ------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Guten Tag! In letzter Zeit haeufen sich leider wiederholt die Nachfragen bzgl. einem angeblichen Virus "Good Times". Wir haben diesen Vorgang im Dezember 1994 ausfuehrlich verfolgt und die Resultate der Aufklaerung bereits am 7 Dezember 1994 ueber unsere Mailing-Liste (win-sec-ssc) verteilt. Leider scheinen sich aber diese Art von Geruechten und FEHLINFORMATION nicht zu legen. Wir sehen uns daher veranlasst diese Hinweise erneut zu wiederholen (was wir bereits Anfang 1995 gemacht haben). Die beiden nachfolgenden Meldungen von CIAC beschaeftigen sich ausfuehrlich mit dieser Problematik. Mit freundlichen Gruessen Wolfgang Ley (DFN-CERT) - -- Wolfgang Ley, DFN-CERT, Vogt-Koelln-Str. 30, 22527 Hamburg, Germany Email: ley@cert.dfn.de Phone: +49 40 54715-262 Fax: +49 40 54715-241 PGP-Key available via finger ley@ftp.cert.dfn.de any key-server or via WWW from http://www.cert.dfn.de/~ley/ ...have a nice day CIAC notes04.txt ftp://ftp.cert.dfn.de/pub/csir/ciac/notes/notes04.txt =========================================================================== U.S. DOE's Computer Incident Advisory Capability ___ __ __ _ ___ __ __ __ __ __ / | /_\ / |\ | / \ | |_ /_ \___ __|__ / \ \___ | \| \__/ | |__ __/ Number 94-04c December 8, 1994 Welcome to the fourth issue of CIAC Notes! This is a special edition to clear up recent reports of a "good times" virus-hoax. Let us know if you have topics you would like addressed or have feedback on what is useful and what is not. Please contact the editor, Allan L. Van Lehn, CIAC, 510-422-8193 or send E-mail to ciac@llnl.gov. $-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$ $ Reference to any specific commercial product does not necessarily $ $ constitute or imply its endorsement, recommendation or favoring by $ $ CIAC, the University of California, or the United States Government.$ $-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$ THE "Good Times" VIRUS IS AN URBAN LEGEND In the early part of December, CIAC started to receive information requests about a supposed "virus" which could be contracted via America OnLine, simply by reading a message. The following is the message that CIAC received: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Here is some important information. Beware of a file called Goodtimes. | | | | Happy Chanukah everyone, and be careful out there. There is a virus on | | America Online being sent by E-Mail. If you get anything called "Good | | Times", DON'T read it or download it. It is a virus that will erase your | | hard drive. Forward this to all your friends. It may help them a lot. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- THIS IS A HOAX. Upon investigation, CIAC has determined that this message originated from both a user of America Online and a student at a university at approximately the same time, and it was meant to be a hoax. CIAC has also seen other variations of this hoax, the main one is that any electronic mail message with the subject line of "xxx-1" will infect your computer. This rumor has been spreading very widely. This spread is due mainly to the fact that many people have seen a message with "Good Times" in the header. They delete the message without reading it, thus believing that they have saved themselves from being attacked. These first-hand reports give a false sense of credibility to the alert message. There has been one confirmation of a person who received a message with "xxx-1" in the header, but an empty message body. Then, (in a panic, because he had heard the alert), he checked his PC for viruses (the first time he checked his machine in months) and found a pre-existing virus on his machine. He incorrectly came to the conclusion that the E-mail message gave him the virus (this particular virus could NOT POSSIBLY have spread via an E-mail message). This person then spread his alert. As of this date, there are no known viruses which can infect merely through reading a mail message. For a virus to spread some program must be executed. Reading a mail message does not execute the mail message. Yes, Trojans have been found as executable attachments to mail messages, the most notorious being the IBM VM Christmas Card Trojan of 1987, also the TERM MODULE Worm (reference CIAC Bulletin B-7) and the GAME2 MODULE Worm (CIAC Bulletin B-12). But this is not the case for this particular "virus" alert. If you encounter this message being distributed on any mailing lists, simply ignore it or send a follow-up message stating that this is a false rumor. Karyn Pichnarczyk CIAC Team ciac@llnl.gov CIAC notes09.txt ftp://ftp.cert.dfn.de/pub/csir/ciac/notes/notes09.txt =========================================================================== U.S. DOE's Computer Incident Advisory Capability ___ __ __ _ ___ __ __ __ __ __ / | /_\ / |\ | / \ | |_ /_ \___ __|__ / \ \___ | \| \__/ | |__ __/ Number 95-09 April 24, 1995 This edition of CIAC NOTES describes the recent rebirth of "Good Times", and reiterates CIAC's previous position that "Good Times" is a hoax. Please send your comments and feedback to ciac@llnl.gov. $-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$ $ Reference to any specific commercial product does not necessarily $ $ constitute or imply its endorsement, recommendation or favoring by $ $ CIAC, the University of California, or the United States Government.$ $-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$ There is a rebirth of the "Good Times" urban legend. CIAC and other response teams, along with the Federal Communications Commission and America Online, have received numerous queries regarding the validity of the "Good Times" virus. The current "Good Times" message appears to be a repeat of the hoax perpetuated last December. CIAC first released CIAC NOTES 94-04 in December 1994 which is titled "THE 'Good Times' VIRUS IS AN URBAN LEGEND." The original "Good Times" message that was posted and circulated contained the following: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Here is some important information. Beware of a file called Goodtimes. | | | | Happy Chanukah everyone, and be careful out there. There is a virus on | | America Online being sent by E-Mail. If you get anything called "Good | | Times", DON'T read it or download it. It is a virus that will erase your | | hard drive. Forward this to all your friends. It may help them a lot. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Soon after the release of CIAC NOTES 04, another "Good Times" message was circulated. This is the same message that is being circulated during this recent "Good Times" rebirth. This message includes a claim that the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) released a warning about the danger of the "Good Times" virus. This "Good Times" hoax message contains the following: The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major importance to any regular user of the InterNet. Apparently, a new computer virus has been engineered by a user of America Online that is unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other, more well-known viruses such as Stoned, Airwolf, and Michaelangelo pale in comparison to the prospects of this newest creation by a warped mentality. What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be infected. ... { stuff deleted } ... CIAC contacted the FCC to ensure that this reference was fabricated and that the "Good Times" is truly a hoax. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ====================== Having malicious code (malware) buried in the body of an E-mail message that would "infect" your computer is not a very likely possibility because characters in an E-mail message are displayed, not executed. CIAC still affirms that reading E-mail, using typical mail agents, will not activate malware delivered in or with the message. Many people believe "in theory" that malware can be delivered and activated by some mail agents that have automated services. An example of such malware is mail delivered to a PC that has embedded, seemingly invisible escape sequences which affect screen display or program the keyboard to do some nastiness when some key is "accidently" pressed. The following is an excerpt from CIAC NOTES 05 which included and update to the "Good Times" urban legend. CIAC did not claim that E-mail could not be a delivery agent for malware. A real threat comes from attached files which could contain viruses or Trojan programs. You should scan any executable attachment before executing it in the same way that you scan all new software before using it. It is possible to create a file that remaps keys when displayed on a PC/MS-DOS machine with the ANSI.SYS driver loaded. However, this only works on PC/MS-DOS machines with the text displayed on the screen in text mode. It would not work in Windows or in most text editors or mailers. A key could be remapped to produce any command sequence when pressed, for example DEL or FORMAT. However, the command is not issued until the remapped key is pressed and the command issued by the remapped key would be visible on the screen. You could protect yourself by removing ANSI.SYS from the CONFIG.SYS file, but many DOS programs use the functionality of ANSI.SYS to control screen functions and colors. Windows programs are not effected by ANSI.SYS, though a DOS program running in Windows would be. =========================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMI9nYAQmfXmOCknRAQEGkgP/W1GSmcSek/C7wN9CO5cGbNMFLgA7fUvE 1LHNN+oaHKZiHIOU4rT7UxSCULQ6CEUyp5qVTiu6Fznbe1O82+wsNucD2Py/L6tQ ETLBkzfyhI2LWAMAlpquAsnOsQfTzRmL1eCORXJP4sMqBEKaP3RhCnwh5TgbvI2K oVIss/XbhbQ= =VdEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ -- Thomas Roessler http://www.rhein.de/~roessler/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:32:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA29724 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA13358 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:28:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA13354 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:28:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQOsS-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 18:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahk@chinet.chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman) Subject: Re: How does Pine separate messages? Date: 20 Nov 1996 19:12:00 -0600 Message-ID: <570a90$hu8@chinet.chinet.com> References: <199611182220.OAA12423@PEAK.ORG> In article , Vikas Agnihotri wrote: >That was a good explanation, but I dont see the '>' before your >From where you say it should be. I also forwarded this message to myself >to see if I get it but I still didnt. The message boundary is "\n\nFrom ". In other words, a blank line and then "From " are the boundary. No blank line is needed ahead of the first message in the mailbox, though. The ">", then, is only needed if "From " follows a blank line within the body of the message. There are other mailbox formats, though. This is a "religious" issue in some newsgroups, like comp.mail.headers. >On 18 Nov 1996 14:30:53 -0800, Timothy J Luoma wrote: >>I'll show you what I mean with this sentence: "This message is from >>me to you." Now that's OK because the word "From " is not the >>first word. (It also isn't capitalized.). >> >>But the next "From " will get a ">" in this: >>This >>Message >>Is >>From >>Me >> >>the "From " that I wrote doesn't have a ">", but when it gets to >>you it will >> >>This >>Is >>A >>From >>without >>a >>space >>after >>it From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:42:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA05059 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA12284 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:39:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA12280 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:39:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQPuS-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 19:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ebromber@forest.drew.edu Subject: Re: Distribution Lists Message-ID: <1996Nov20.215619.151571@forest> Date: 20 Nov 96 21:56:19 EST References: <1996Nov20.214308.151565@forest> In article <1996Nov20.214308.151565@forest>, ebromber@forest.drew.edu writes: > I was wondering how to create a distribution list. > > thanx > ebromber@drew.edu Never mind I figured it out From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:23:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA05846 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:23:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA13571 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:18:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA13567 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:18:36 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA18168; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:49:52 +0530 (IST) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:49:50 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Folders. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Thanks for replying. On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Matthew Schinckel wrote: > On 17 Nov 1996, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: > > > Is there a way where by which, messages sent to a particular address is > > saved in a particular folder automatically? For example, I send a lot of > > mail to Pine mailing list. I would like to save all the messasges send by > > (You certainly do :-) > > > me to the Pine list to a separate folder automatically. > > fcc-name-rule by-recipient > > will save a folder-carbon-copy of each(?) message to a seperate folder, > according to who it was sent to. A better solution may be to make an > address book entry, and include in it an FCC field... > > Go into the address book screen and look at help. Thanks a lot for the information. It makes my life a lot easier. Regards, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:40:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA06878 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA14600 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:35:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opera.iinet.net.au (opera.iinet.net.au [203.0.178.46]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA14596 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:35:16 -0800 Received: from grunge.iinet.net.au (grunge.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.9]) by opera.iinet.net.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15107 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:34:56 +0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by grunge.iinet.net.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id OAA04158 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:07:32 +0800 Received: by winthrop.wininv.iinet.net.au (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30292; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:46:28 +0800 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:46:28 +0800 (WST) From: Nick Higgins Subject: Unable to EXPUNGE from INBOX To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two separate SCO boxes running mmdf and pine. One will expunge messages from the inbox (and any other folder) the other will not. I have looked at and compared all the permissions on all the files/programs involved (at least all the ones I know about). These were /usr/spool/mail/???? /tmp /usr/bin/pine The version of pine is a precompiled version from cac.washington.edu: v3.91 Nothing appears to _me_ to be different. That's not to say they aren't and quite obviously there is a difference between the configurations. But I'll be b******d if I can see it! I have had a look at locking and can't see anything. I have had a look at the .pine-debug files with -d9 set. Nada. The annoying thing is that it says it it doing it all ok, but then the messages are there again when I re-enter pine. I have logged on as root and the same thing happens. I have set the uid and guid for pine itself to root. Zip. Someone please help as either my forehead or the screen is going to break in the not too distant future. All suggestions gratefully received... TIA Nick. ******************************************************************************** Nick Higgins ;-) nick@wininv.iinet.net.au 'Phone (09) 474 2111 (work) fax (09) 367 4214 (09) 343 5406 (home) ... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.) ******************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:37:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA07362 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA17528 for pine-info-out; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:29:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA17524 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:29:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQTZQ-00038XC; Wed, 20 Nov 96 23:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clint Danbury Subject: Spam Response (?) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:26:53 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 95% of my email is spam. What I want is a simple procedure in which I can quickly (immediately? automatically?) press a small number of keystrokes and have a quick message sent to the sender, asking for that person to resend their message with some sort of identifier in the subject field. The identifier which I have in mind will be a highly complex thing such as my name or something like that. I want to make it easy for people who know my name to contact me, If a spammer doesn't know my name, then, well, Since 99% of all spam has a bogus "return" address field, the result of "r" has always (for me, at least) been bouncing email. I would like a way to trash the N-number of bounces. --IF-- this is possible, -THEN- please someone post how to do it. -ELSE- Sorrry to clutter the newsgroup. (Hey! Pine authors, this feature could make pine the number 1 software pack on the net; be famous!) ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; - ; Please send full names and social security numbers of - ; anyone you know, especially government officials, well - ; known media stars, corporate human resources directors, - ; and anyone else you may have or can get, to me at - ; - ; danbury@ssnShirt.com Clint Danbury - ; Box 742226 - ; Dallas, TX 75374-2226 - ; - ; A Q&A document explaining this project will be emailed to - ; any person who convinces me that they really want to - ; know what this is all about. - ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:22:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA07681 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA18192 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:18:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (orca.cc.metu.edu.tr [144.122.2.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA18187 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:17:57 -0800 Received: from localhost by orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03.METU.CLIENT) id AA148802; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:12:10 +0300 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:11:19 +0300 (MEST) From: baris temiz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I AM WRITING FOR MY FRIEND.THERE IS AN ERROR IN HIS ACCOUNT.HE CAN NOT SEND MESSAGE AND TAKE MESSAGE.THE COMPUTER SAYS THAT ERROR SAVING CONFIGURATION IN FILE "/HOME 236/e104161/.PINERC":DISK QUOTA EXCEEDED. HIS ADDRESS IS e104161@narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr PLEASE HELP HIM! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:32:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA06307 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA18305 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:28:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (orca.cc.metu.edu.tr [144.122.2.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA18301 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:28:11 -0800 Received: from localhost by orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03.METU.CLIENT) id AA102132; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:23:16 +0300 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:23:15 +0300 (MEST) From: baris temiz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I WANT TO HAVE AN E-MAIL FRIEND FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. CAN YOU HELP ME? MY ADDRESS IS e104195@narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:21:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA21133 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:21:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA16732 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:14:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA16728 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:14:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQVCX-00038YC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 01:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:30:14 -0800 Message-ID: References: <56sgvu$7t9@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Tony Calguire wrote: > > To support IMAP4, we must support hierarchical names, subscriptions, and > > UID management. That's most of what constitutes Pine's news support. The > > code that babbles NNTP is very small and shrinking -- it's just 2/3 the > > size in Pine 4.0 (less than 32K now) that it was in Pine 3.95. > So what does this mean for Pine's future news reading capabilities? Does > this smaller amount of code mean that Pine is going to be a worse > newsreader than it is now (and it's not really that bad, BTW)? It means that Pine's future news reading capabilities will be better and faster. What's more, you'll still be able to do the same things with news as with mail, and vice versa. What I was referring to ("the code that babbles NNTP") was not a reduction in capability for news reading, but rather that code that is specific to news reading is getting smaller, so there is no real savings in removing it. What was news-specific is becoming general purpose and used elsewhere, e.g. in IMAP4 support. > My > Freenet is considering upgrading Pine, and I'm afraid that if Pine > doesn't do news anymore, they'll give up on providing Usenet news altogether. Don't worry! > I think you should keep news. The trend in internet software is toward > all-in-one programs, anyway. We feel the same way. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:04:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA07376 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA19528 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:59:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA19524 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:59:32 -0800 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA19802; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:59:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:59:23 +0100 (MET) From: Jean Schuller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: mailbox lock Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi pine experts, I have the following problem on all the users accounts : by starting pine, I get the message : Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly. Where is this mailbox file ??? TIA JEAN ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jean Schuller _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ Centre de Recherches Nucleaires _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Boite Postale 28 - CR 23, Rue du Loess _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX - France _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ local : 0388106630 | fax : 0388106234 foreign : 33 388106630 | fax : 33 388106234 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:46:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA05835 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:46:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA20024 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:41:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA20016 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:41:41 -0800 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA16220; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:41:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:41:39 +0100 (MET) From: Jean Schuller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: mailbox lock Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Forget my previous mail about read-only mailbox, I'm stupid, /tmp was read-only (my work). Thanks JEAN ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jean Schuller _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ Centre de Recherches Nucleaires _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Boite Postale 28 - CR 23, Rue du Loess _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX - France _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ local : 0388106630 | fax : 0388106234 foreign : 33 388106630 | fax : 33 388106234 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:59:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA24797 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA20789 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:45:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA20784 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:45:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQXXA-00038XC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 03:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scott Lacy Subject: Pine 3.95 questions (password and coredumps) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:07:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3291245E.54B0@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All! I'm running 3.95 on Solaris 2.5, and I've got a couple of questions. 1) Is there any way to disable the command in Pine which allows users to set their passwords (not mailbox passwords, but login passwords)? 2) Pine seems to coredump very intermittently (I can't reproduce it, but some people can). Here's an excerpt from a .pine-debug file, but I can't make heads or tails of the problem. Anybody help? --- ADDR_BOOK_SCREEN --- - mailcap_free - --- addr_book --- (AddrBookScreen) -- init_addrbooks(HalfOpen, 1, 1, 1) -- - ab_whereis - - ab_whereis - about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Select error: No such file or directory Would prefer an e-mail response (slacy@mindspring.com), as I don't have news access from work. Will post a summary. Thanks! Scott -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I know who you are, baby. And I know what they call you, girl. Never put you down, baby. I'm just like you, Baby, I'm on the hunt. Lynyrd Skynyrd, "On The Hunt" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:27:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA09659 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:27:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA19255 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:20:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA19235 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:20:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQY3X-00038ZC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 04:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 19 Nov 1996 21:53:04 -0500 Message-ID: <56trqg$351@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> Holger Lillqvist wrote: : Wouldn't it be better if the pine team concentrated on making the mail : program better and faster, and at least for the time being left the news : business to specialists? I feel exactly the same way. Perhaps, enhanced support for IMAP4 is much more desirable than spending a lot of time to enhance news reader part of Pine(threading,kill file,etc). Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 05:44:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA10216 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 05:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA22275 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 05:35:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA22271 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 05:35:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQZF7-00038YC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 05:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: ALERT: Solaris 2.5.1 locks up on TCP connections in Pine 3.9x Date: 19 Nov 1996 15:34:04 GMT Message-ID: <56sk1c$94n@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: Todd Vierling writes: >This is being sent to a couple newsgroups and mailing lists; if these >mailing lists don't show the proper Reply-To: header, please direct replies >to and avoid posting to all lists. >To the persons at Sun Microsystems who will be receiving this via blind >carbon copy: TAKE NOTE. This is going directly to CERT and CIAC if I can't >get a resolution. I've worked with UNIX-based systems including SunOS and >Solaris long enough to know what's a problem with the kernel. >I have stumbled upon a problem that I can reproduce on all our systems every >time, and apparently can be reproduced by other readers of USENET as will be >documented below. Simply put, if configured properly, the Pine mail reader, >versions 3.94 and 3.95, can *freeze* the Solaris 2.5 and 2.5.1 kernel >completely. No core dump or the like--an outright freeze. No TCP/IP pings >work--network is frozen. Even the keyboard sometimes freezes and pressing >the xxx-Lock keys doesn't light the respective indicator light. I think I followed up a previous posting of yours asking why you were not also posting to comp.mail.pine, or if you had mailed any of the pine developers. I notice the headers *still* do not list that group. While I agree with your contentions, I think it is prudent and responsible that word get out to Pine users/maintainers who hang out on that group. I will be redirecting this to c.m.pine. >This may at first sound like a problem Sun can shun because they "do not >support Pine," but think about this: In a protected-memory environment such >as Solaris, NO USER PROGRAM SHOULD EVER FREEZE THE COMPUTER. That's what >protected memory is for. Pine is not run with any special privileges, only >as a regular user--and a regular user does not have the ability to cause the >computer to halt. >Hence, Pine has triggered a bug in the Solaris kernel--a product of Sun's. >I daresay this could exist in releases of Solaris/x86 as early as 2.3, and >nothing has been done about it. And if Pine can do it, that means other >programs have the same potential. More than anything else right now, I'm >looking to see that this problem can be reproduced on other systems. >You can most certainly try to reproduce this yourself! You'll need the >following to do the experiment: >- the binary of Pine 3.95 and the respective .pinerc file from my FTP site > at ftp://ftp.iag.net/pub/tv/ -- files "pine.Z" (decompress this) and > "pinerc" (name this .pinerc in your home directory). Uh, you can trust > the binary--up to the point of system freeze, that is. :/ >OR: >- GCC version 2.7.2 or 2.7.2.1, NOT the ProCompiler (as I do not know if > a ProCompiler compiled version will recreate this). >- Pine 3.95 sources from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.tar.gz. > You'll need to twiddle some things for "./build sol" to work: make sure > that /usr/ccs/bin/ucbcc AND /usr/ccs/bin/cc point to gcc; /usr/ccs/bin > is in your path; /usr/ucb is not before /usr/bin or /usr/ccs/bin in your > path; and "." is the last entry in your path. >- A .pinerc with inbox-path= set to an IMAP server. You can do this by > running Pine, going to (S)etup (C)onfig, and setting the value to a > server with IMAP (I use {imap.afn.org}INBOX where I have one of my e-mail > accounts). Or use the one from my FTP site above. >All you should need to do now is run Pine. If you get a login prompt, ^C, >(Q)uit, and run it again a few times. Betcha it'll lock the system. It >does for us, consistently. >I'd love to hear of other reports of this happening. It's quite frustrating >to find that a product that has such intense corporate backing has none at >all when any outside product is in use (even when the outside product is >only triggering a bug in the supported product). My report of this problem >was sent in as an "enhancement request," because an outside program was what >triggered the error and there was not 100% Sun Supported(tm) software in >the setup. >Sun Microsystems, you can do better than this. I hope your kernel group >finally breaks down to find out what's going on. >===== >== Todd Vierling (Personal tv@pobox.com; Business tv@iag.net) Cast a vote! == >== System administrator/technician, Internet Access Group, Orlando Florida == >== Dialups in Orange, Volusia, Lake, Osceola counties - http://www.iag.net == -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:09:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA09586 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA20469 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:05:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA20465 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:05:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQZkd-00038XC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 06:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bmiller@halo10.cybercash.com (Brian Miller) Subject: ARGH! Memory usage in Pine 3.95 Date: 19 Nov 1996 15:36:33 GMT Message-ID: <56sk61$ief@tear.cybercash.com> I posted a query a couple of weeks ago about this - dunno if it ever made it out into the world... I'm running Pine 3.95 on a P120 under BSDI 2.0.1 w/32M memory and 200M of swap. Not often (only about three times a day...grrrr) Pine will die on me with an "Out of free storage" error when attempting to access a mailbox that's larger than approx. 6MB in size. I find it hard to believe that Pine is really starved for memory resources, so I figure it must be something else. Anyone have any ideas? Is Pine simply incapable of handling large mailboxes? Is there some build option I missed that would allow me to use Pine (instead of emacs) to read the "other" part of my mail? I also had this problem under v3.91 that was bundled as part of BSDI; I was hoping that 3.95 would fix the problem. If there's no fix, anyone want to suggest an IMAP mail client that's capable of handling large mailboxes? -------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Miller www.cybercash.com Resident Curiosity bmiller@cybercash.com brian@cfar.umd.edu One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:57:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA10765 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA23254 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:50:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from beta.loyno.edu (beta.loyno.edu [141.164.1.44]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA23250 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:50:37 -0800 Received: by beta.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/31Oct96-0621AM) id AA23636; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:54:55 -0600 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:54:53 -0600 (CST) From: Russell Johnson To: pine Subject: Unwanted Attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Good Morning All, I have PINE 3.91 on a Dec 3000 unix box with osf/1 V2.0. Earlier this week MIS sent a large Zip file as an attachment. It arrived with two extra obscene attachments. I looked in the student's sent-mail folder and found at ~the same time, an mail undelivered msg with the same mail as text. It does not look intentional, but here in a Jesuit University the President is quite upset. Anyone else have a similiar experience? Is it a 3.91 bug? Thanks to All in advance, RKJ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:08:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA03920 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA23435 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:04:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tiger.lsu.edu (tiger3.ocs.lsu.edu [130.39.174.42]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA23425 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:04:52 -0800 Received: from localhost by tiger.lsu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA89144; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:04:45 -0600 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:04:45 -0600 (CST) From: Danielle Elizabeth Spedale To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bug report Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This version will not properly postpone messages...it only cancels them and says that it writes to a dead.letter file... At times, it also does not automatically clear/refresh the screen when composing a new message...All previous text is left on the screen. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:36:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA29913 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA23841 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:30:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA23835 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:30:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQb0p-00038XC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 07:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: ARGH! Memory usage in Pine 3.95 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:07:15 -0800 Message-ID: References: <56sk61$ief@tear.cybercash.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <56sk61$ief@tear.cybercash.com> Suggestion: consider using an alternative format for your mail, such as tenex format. Read the Pine technical note for more information. We long ago gave up on mbox format for big mailboxes. Some of our people have tenex format mailboxes in the tens of megabytes. Do you know how many messages are in your mailbox and have a general idea of the sizes of messages? Long ago, Pine would allocate a single 6MB buffer (ala emacs) for your 6MB mailbox. The problem was with malloc() implementations that would round up the request to the nearest power of two, thus 6MB would become 8MB. Pine now allocates buffers for each message. The problem is that some malloc() implementations do poorly with that technique. We are considering using a scratch file instead of a memory buffer; the problem with doing that is that users run up against disk quotas and it's slower. Also, have you checked your per-process memory limits ("limit" command), in particular the "datasize" and "memoryuse" values? I, too, find it difficult to believe that you could pop memory on your system with just a 6MB mailbox. On 19 Nov 1996, Brian Miller wrote: > I posted a query a couple of weeks ago about this - dunno > if it ever made it out into the world... > > I'm running Pine 3.95 on a P120 under BSDI 2.0.1 w/32M > memory and 200M of swap. Not often (only about three > times a day...grrrr) Pine will die on me with an "Out of free > storage" error when attempting to access a mailbox > that's larger than approx. 6MB in size. I find it hard > to believe that Pine is really starved for memory resources, > so I figure it must be something else. Anyone have > any ideas? Is Pine simply incapable of handling large > mailboxes? Is there some build option I missed that would > allow me to use Pine (instead of emacs) to read the "other" > part of my mail? I also had this problem under v3.91 > that was bundled as part of BSDI; I was hoping that 3.95 > would fix the problem. > > If there's no fix, anyone want to suggest an IMAP mail > client that's capable of handling large mailboxes? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Brian Miller www.cybercash.com Resident Curiosity > bmiller@cybercash.com brian@cfar.umd.edu > One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria. > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:06:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA28734 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA22074 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:00:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA22070 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:00:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQbXM-00038YC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 07:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Benn Subject: Advanced Pine & PGP integration. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:39:41 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I am using pine 3.9x as a very good mailer. I also am using a couple of shell scripts to integrate with pgp using display and send filters. the result is dead easy to use for someone who encrypts things occasionally and signs them more often. Having checked the several sites I could not find any scripts that use the display filter process to do key managmenent, or any send filters that can manage remailers (harder, I know). If soemone has such scripts, or can point me to such then I would be very grateful. Ideally they should have the following features. On coming across a public key in a message it would add it (unverified, naturally) to your public key ring. On coming across a signed message for which you don't have the public key for it should look up a key server and verify the signature. If I get the time (studies permitting) I could write these but then I am a novice script writer. Regards, Simon. +================================================================+ | Simon Benn, University of Edinburgh. | Support __ | | E-mail: skb@dcs.ed.ac.uk; Simon.Benn@ed.ac.uk; | Free //\\ | | 9441155@sms.ed.ac.uk; simonb@cryogen.com; | Speech \\// | | Home Page: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~skb/ | Online!//\\ | | 'Paranoid people live longer' | {/ \}| +================================================================+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBMpRptnqdgvQIAfkFAQGH3AL/eq/wQ8JSWNSx9WOo/l1BFuG4bccgAXTz QFksds0XacTpiVM2E5pD0mgBxLMOGbUE9rSu0pOIN/y61ZPGohrzB8pLgzkBeEDg dl1pzbklH7pPVu4iT6MYAekghaLrnCV0 =Po+z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:52:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA13770 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA25229 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:35:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA25223 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:35:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQc5s-00038YC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 08:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jamie Subject: how to customise reply follow-up? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:13:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This has been, I'm sure, asked and answered here before. Is there a way, beyond actually hacking the source code, to customise the "On <$DATE>, <$DORK> wrote:" field in reply mode? thanks for any help. jamie - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ jamie dyer Send empty message to jamie@comet.net | Comet.Net | crypto-junkie@comet.net | Charlottesville, Va. | for pgp public key. | (804)295-2407 | | http://www.comet.net | "Linux perceiveth of The Dos, the Dos perceiveth not of the Linux." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMpR/ulieIsiYsVw5AQFF/gf8Dm3on8cvlRLT1sdnkvCMB6oKEXphPpqZ +ewJc0hcLpSH5NDlHFAygOV+P2Y40263kmrfKVmzvvzW+mLE88mFvxte3L/9mvvN H547dMnJlMPzaJglLWy19dVZlggnYztz1cEYHyexhsaAh5OJ3hoJ4VwYhzmOoXn/ shiXBC2rpDTIo1qgvWB/xVh3h5RUCBQKs0CFSfvpS16jIRPMZgwYWzIs0L3dLbpA WcSBT6/27qX+O88Jo3nkQnl8RzEFT35cr0ZbWPG9gl9283HumRnxtIBiQ2UaSHNv Vpj8ZS+MtLiCnXd/s6RPM6T3HTh04M/CHhMdlNFtRb3FHh/4QcvBrQ== =3uQx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:53:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA13818 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA22919 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:35:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA22906 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:35:32 -0800 Received: from asysa.demon.co.uk ([158.152.36.24]) by relay-6.mail.demon.net id aa606805; 21 Nov 96 16:01 GMT Received: from cooch.asa.co.uk (cooch [193.195.233.4]) by osbeta.asa.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02268; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:31:08 GMT Received: from sword (sword.asa.co.uk [193.195.233.82]) by cooch.asa.co.uk (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id GAA04658; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:30:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:29:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Sean Witham X-Sender: seanw@sword To: DearOldDad cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 In-Reply-To: <56rc2v$ebl@news1.epix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 19 Nov 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > Mail and News are 2 > different animals, and while pine allows us to also copy to news and tin > allows us to also send mail, IMO using pine as a newsreader is about as > smart as using tin as a mail program or using your microwave as an oven or > using your lawnmower as a food processor; They were designed for 2 > different things. That's it; I'm done preaching; Now I'm gonna post this > from TIN and go to PINE to read my email. All flames are welcome; It's > cold here ;-) I use a combination oven to cook *8-) BTW there is a lot in common between Email and News postings esp. on mailing lists. At least from the user point of view. I agree that pine is a poor news tool however why does this need to be the case. rn wasn't, I like to think of it as dead *8-), exactly a good News tool either hence the improved tools such as tin. Pine is an email client it is there to make life easier when dealing with email. Users tend to treat email and news in a similar manner except one is more "public" than the other. If this last point is wrong or correct but an example of the miss uses of pine/news then fine but otherwise why not have one tool to do the "one" job of news and email. I myself don't care if pine does or doesn't handle news as well a tin as long as it handled email well I'm happy. --Sean From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:05:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA24184 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA04123 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:01:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA04119 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:01:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQi6P-00038ZC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 15:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adm_oaep@mozart.inet.co.th (Wasu Srisanan) Subject: Re: How can I set the username? Date: 21 Nov 1996 22:22:00 GMT Message-ID: <572km8$o4q@chopin.inet.co.th> References: <55vh4r$3cb-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> On 8 Nov 1996 15:46:51 +0100 Joachim Schaaf (joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de) wrote: | Hello, | I send and receive my email "offline" on my Linux PC (with sendmail and | POP). The problem I have: the account names on my PC and at the provider | are not the same. What I need is to set the user name (like the user-domain | setting). | Can anyone help me? | Gruss, | Joachim. | -- -- Try Reply-To: -vasu@oaep.go.th ======== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:21:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA24074 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA06985 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:16:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA06981 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:16:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQiLA-00038YC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 15:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rob Fulwell Subject: Re: Q: Is there a FAQ? Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:23:08 -0800 Message-ID: References: <56om91$qgu@news.liberty.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <56om91$qgu@news.liberty.com> On 18 Nov 1996, Shoeless in San Jose wrote: > I believe what you're looking for can be found at: > > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine Perhaps it would be a good idea to have a meta-FAQ posted to this group (daily?) which points to this information. It may help avoid the *large* number of FAQ's this group sees. -- Rob Fulwell Dod#0718-GS850L http://weber.u.washington.edu/~miser or keyserver for PGP public key NOTICE: Please see the above web page before sending commercial e-mail From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:35:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA24704 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:35:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA04856 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:31:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA04850 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:31:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQiZa-00038ZC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 15:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ke19@umailsrv0.umd.edu (Karen King) Subject: Re: Using alternate address in composing Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:19:48 GMT Message-ID: <3294d442.29468141@news.wam.umd.edu> References: On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:26:10 -0500, "Karen E. King" wrote: >I recently learned how to access inboxes on alternate accounts. This >way I can use PINE to read both mail accounts. How does one change >personal information in the header, so that the "From:" line reflects the >alternate account information? > >Thanks in advance > >Karen Following up on my own message - I learned how to add a "Reply-To" line to the customized header information. I then renamed the config file, so that I have a default config file and an alternate one. If I then start pine with the alternate config file (pine -p filename), I can use the alternate email address as a Reply-To feature. New problem: In the Personal Name field, I can put in a new string such as "Karen King (xxx@abc.com)" , exit and save configuration. However, using that configuration, if I send myself a test message, the From: line reads: From: "Karen King (xxx@zzz.com)" <--- this being the default address. Is there anyway to tell the program to just show: From: Karen King (xxx@zzz.com)? Thanks in advance Karen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:52:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA26683 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA06844 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:48:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA06840 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:48:22 -0800 Received: from bronze.missouri.edu (bronze.missouri.edu [128.206.2.12]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA162554 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:26:45 -0600 Received: from localhost (c655156@localhost) by bronze.missouri.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA122416 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:26:45 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: bronze.missouri.edu: c655156 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:26:45 -0600 (CST) From: Ktower X-Sender: c655156@bronze.missouri.edu Reply-To: Ktower To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like a FAQ sent to me. I have just recieved an iNAME account and am needing to know two specific things. 1) how can i change my retun address 2) change my setup to send mail through the iNAME mail server. I would appriciate any info you could send me. Thank you, Ktower From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:09:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA23807 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA09969 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:06:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA09962 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:06:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQjzt-00038ZC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 17:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 21 Nov 1996 15:56:04 GMT Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Crispin wrote: : I don't want to add fuel to the flames of the morality of integrating new : and mail. It's proven to be an unproductive discussion. - clip - : IMAP. We will certainly want to use server-based search if it is : available. Our intent is not to match tin and other newsreaders. Our : intent is to do better. - clip - ; New technologies are always vulnerable to unfavorable comparisons with : established technologies. Just give it a chance to mature, OK? OK, thanks for a well-argued response. As one who added some fuel I want to say that I agree that an abstract integrate vs non-integrate discussion in the end is not very productive. The tenor of my original post was really that those who right now lack power-user news reader features could turn to separate programs, instead of whining about pine's news reader. And as Dana Booth rightly points out in her post, users' demands vary greatly, there are those who are content as it is. But (and here's no fuel now:-) one point. I was really talking about the mail client's relative sluggishness, not the news reader's, which I've never used. And surely it is important to keep an eye on pine's big resource demands, to _economize_ routines in all possible ways, not just to add features? -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi - Enjoy life, folks, not only computers. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:33:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA27835 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:33:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA10477 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:28:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA10473; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:28:41 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA17452; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:28:37 -0800 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:28:36 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Holger Lillqvist cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Nov 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > But (and here's no fuel now:-) one point. I was really talking about > the mail client's relative sluggishness, not the news reader's, which > I've never used. And surely it is important to keep an eye on pine's > big resource demands, to _economize_ routines in all possible ways, > not just to add features? Holger, I'm interested in the observation that Pine is sluggish. My belief is that this is true in some configurations, but definitely not true in general. Some patterns I've observed: o Almost all of the "sluggishness" reports I've seen have come from folks using Sun systems. Are you in that group? If so, would one of the following items apply to you? o People who use Pine in IMAP mode are sometimes hosed when opening folders if the server has an rshd that doesn't respond quickly. (Work around: add ":143" to the host specification.) o People with large inboxes who are using Bky "mbox" format *may* be hosed if they are using a system with limited memory or a slow virtual memory subsystem. (Work around: use a different mailbox format and driver that doesn't read the whole folder into virtual memory. Tenex format is one such alternative.) Thoughts? -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:45:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA28033 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA08213 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:41:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA08205 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:41:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQkY3-00038bC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 17:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:31:04 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I don't want to add fuel to the flames of the morality of integrating new and mail. It's proven to be an unproductive discussion. I will, however, say that the current state of newsreading in Pine is in no way "final". There are several new and quite exciting technologies under development here. A number of these pieces are starting to come together, although it won't be obvious to the end user until the process is finished. 4.0 will probably not have any big changes in news reading. However, 4.0 marks the introduction of some important underlying enabling technology. You'll start seeing the benefits in subsequent versions. We know why Pine's current news reading is "slow and sluggish". We can fix it. Pine gets the information for drawing the browser from the message headers. This information is used to build an "envelope", from which Pine can do many things including draw a browser, do replies, and build a filtered header. The envelope can also be used to thread, but that requires getting envelopes for all messages which takes a while. Most newsreaders take advantage of the unpublished XOVER extension in NNTP. XOVER is only suitable for drawing a browser and computing threads; you still have to get the headers to do anything else. Also, not all NNTP servers have XOVER; if you have the misfortune to use such a server you'll discover how wretched tin performance will become. We will use XOVER and have full news threading in a future version of Pine. We will also take advantage of the new NNTP extensions being discussed now in the IETF; for example, the NNTP guys are adding server-based searching that is quite similar to the capability that is in IMAP. We will certainly want to use server-based search if it is available. Our intent is not to match tin and other newsreaders. Our intent is to do better. From my perspective, the claim that Pine should abandon news support because dedicated newsreaders (such as tin) thread better is something like the claim that these new-fangled automobiles should be abandoned since horses are much more reliable than gasoline engines. New technologies are always vulnerable to unfavorable comparisons with established technologies. Just give it a chance to mature, OK? -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:34:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA28828 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA11565 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:31:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA11561 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:31:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQlMw-00038ZC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 18:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: miller@amecom.com (Israel C. Miller) Subject: pine tree colors Date: 20 Nov 1996 16:41:30 GMT Message-ID: <56vcbq$5dg@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am using PC Pine and notice that if I leave the window open in background the green pine tree will turn to a red tree when a new message comes in. However, the tree remains red until I exit completely and reenter. Does anybody know how to toggle back to green without exiting? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:58:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA24177 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA09391 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:55:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lionfish.jcu.edu.au (lionfish.jcu.edu.au [137.219.16.119]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA09378 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:54:52 -0800 Received: from localhost by lionfish.jcu.edu.au with SMTP id AA24295 (5.65v3.2/IDA-1.5); Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:54:44 +1000 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:54:28 +1000 (EST) From: Cathryn Anderton To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Application/MS-TNEF Enclosures Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: barry@telerama.lm.com Date: 11 Nov 1995 22:12:56 -0500 So, what is the MS-TNEF attachment? Why is it called an application? What causes it to be sent? Is it necessary? If not, how can it be avoided? Thanks, Barry Transport Neutral Encapsulation Format Apparently Microsoft Exchange Mail Clients put attachments in a file called "WINMAIL.DAT". They are in tnef format. Here is a link to a WWW page that explains this in more detail and tells a Microsoft Exchange user how to send an attachment without encoding it into TNEF format: http://www.wp.com/davidb/tnef.html regards Cathryn Anderton =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Computer Centre James Cook University of Nth Queensland phone: 81 5502 Townsville 4811 AUSTRALIA email: Cathryn.Anderton@jcu.edu.au =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:30:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA18211 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA10719 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:26:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA10715 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:26:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQnBl-00038ZC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 20:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dana Booth Subject: Re: SENDING A COPY OF A MESSAGE TO SEVERAL RECIPIENTS In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:25:09 GMT On 18 Nov 1996, Royal Hargrove wrote: > Could someone please tell me how to send a copy of a message to several > recipients using Pine? Thanks very much. Hi, if you go to the address book, you can make a mailing list by putting in the address field, several addresses seperated by commas. If you just want to do a one time mailing, you can either put additional addresses in the cc: field, or in the bcc: field. Hope this helps... ---------------------------- Dana Booth ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:19:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA28405 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA15011 for pine-info-out; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:14:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA15007 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:14:49 -0800 From: Cosima@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA03564; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:14:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:14:17 -0500 Message-ID: <961122011415_140874538@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: dialup@oakland.edu Subject: HELP!! The Pine system here at OU is suddenly refusing to send out any mail for me! When I hit Ctrl-x, I get the following message: MAIL NOT SENT. SENDING ERROR 452. What does that mean, does anybody know? I've been using Pine for 3 years, and this is the first time such a thing has happened. 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See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~161K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. VERY IMPORTANT DIRECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT YOU GET A REPLY: 1. you must call from an "unblocked number," ie. one that is not blocked from caller id. If you have a blocked number, you must first unblock it. In most cases this means dialing *82 from a touch-tone phone (or 1182 from a rotary phone) before you dial 1-718-227-9125. 2. no reply forms can be accepted by email....only via fax or smail. 3. faxes with cover pages will be rejected. You must send *only* the reply form. 4. forms not *completely* filled in will not be acknowledged. 5. you will receive a reply within 1 business day directly from the company making the offer via email. Therefore you must have an email address. If you read this message, then you must have an email address, or access to one, at least. :-) 6. your fax must not exceed 1 page in length. Faxes of 2 or more pages will be sensed, then auto-terminated and deleted. Your fax goes directly onto our 5.0 gigabyte hard drive and we must limit all incoming faxes to 1 page. 7. all faxes must begin with: *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* and must end with: *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* 8. Any fax not conforming to this format will be sensed by our software, then auto-terminated and deleted from the hard drive, before any human ever gets to see it. WHO WE ARE: Tempting Tear-Outs is an advertising company that brings potential new customers to the companies they advertise for. MORE ABOUT THE COMPANY MAKING THE FREE OFFER: The company making the offer is a magazine subscription agency based in the USA. They have over 1,500 popular USA titles available to be shipped to *any* country, including of course, to anywhere in the USA! They offer a FREE 1 yr. subscription to your choice of over 270 of the titles in their catalogue to any new customer using them for the first time. The dollar value of the freebies, based on the subscription prices directly from the publishers, ranges from $6.97 all the way up to $50.00! For new customers in the USA, there is no charge for FPH (foreign postage & handling), so the freebie is 100% free! For new customers living overseas, the only charge on the freebie would be for the FPH (foreign postage & handling). 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With 1,500 titles on their list, they would like to think that they have also the best selection around! Within the USA, for their USA customers, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. The 1 yr. freebie that you get with your first order is completely free! Overseas, (even after you factor in the cost of the FPH (foreign postage & handling) and the conversion from USA Dollars to your currency), on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They are also the cheapest subscription source for delivery overseas, including directly from the publishers themselves! Some publishers don't even offer subscriptions overseas.........but overseas subscriptions are this company's specialty! They feel that magazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! It is also *highly unlikely* you will find any of their USA competitors calling you overseas, in order to offer that personal touch, just to sell you a couple of magazines! But that is what this company specializes in and loves doing! Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Subscription prices quoted for overseas consist of the subscription price, plus the FPH. You add the two together and that is your total cost. The exception is the 1 yr. freebie you get with your first order. On that title, you pay *only* the FPH for the 1 yr. term. 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They will call you in whatever country you live in, taking the time difference into account. As they like to emphasize the personal touch they give to each new customer, all first-time orders can only be done via phone, so they can answer all your questions completely and personally. Once you have placed your first order via phone, you will be able to place future orders and make inquiries on your account, get price quotes, etc., all via email, if that is most convenient for you. Within the USA, they accept payment via check over the phone, Mastercard, Visa and American Express. Overseas, they accept Mastercard, Visa and American Express, even if your credit card is a local one in local currency! That's our introduction of our client that we represent. We hope that we have piqued your interest and that you will take the next step to get their free catalogue! Thank you for your time and interest. -- Tempting Tear-Outs. For more info on advertising rates, please write us on your company letterhead, w/business card, via smail to: Tempting Tear-Outs, 3835 Richmond Ave. Suite #200, Staten Island NY 10312-3828, USA. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:26:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA32067 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA16751 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:22:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA16741 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:22:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQqpc-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 00:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Suppressing recipients e-mail addresses Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:40:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1996Nov13.144113.150885@forest> <56fn11$jo9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <56fn11$jo9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> On 14 Nov 1996, Ramesh Gunna wrote: > As a follow up on this topic, is it perfectly legal & ethical to > supress the recipients address in a mailing list. I believe that your question is effectively is it ok to use Bcc (or pine's Lcc). I think the answer is clearly yes. Imagine the following. A sends memo (on paper) to B and A retains a copy herself. A may at anytime show to some third party, C, possibly A's boss a copy of the memo. If you have no ethical problem with this, then you should have no ethical problem with Bcc. It is the same, only you do it with fewer steps. Since you can always retain a copy of anything you send and then send a copy of your copy to any third party, Bcc also adds little new, except for convenience. Furthermore, there are cases where Bcc is the ethical thing to do. There are people who don't want their email address made public. Bcc is useful for that. I do think the question you raise is an important one, and would like to see other opinions on this matter. Basically, while I think my answer makes sense, I am not fully satisfied with it, but I don't understand why. Also Should be move this discussion from c.m.pine to c.m.misc? -jeff -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:56:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA31854 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA14573 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:53:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail5.netcom.com (mail5.netcom.com [192.100.81.141]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA14569 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:53:11 -0800 Received: from partha.ltindia.com (root@partha.ltindia.com [206.215.150.100]) by mail5.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id AAA02865; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:52:46 -0800 Received: from khyber (khyber.isd.ltindia.com [10.1.11.2]) by partha.ltindia.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA00391 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:49:55 +0500 Received: from smtpg.ltindia.com (smtp-gw) by khyber (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05690; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:40:08 -0500 Received: from POWAI-Message_Server by smtpg.ltindia.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:45:40 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:47:12 +0000 From: B BASU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: My email address is BB-SDP@pgriii.ltindia.com I would like to correspond with pine users worldwide. Anyone interested? B. BASU INDIA. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 02:30:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA00383 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 02:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA15730 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 02:27:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA15726 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 02:27:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQsmL-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 02:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Once more: "send back"/autoreply Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 13 Nov 1996, Diethard Ohrt wrote: > I already mailed this to the list -- the problem persists: [...] By "the list" do you mean the procmail mailing list, where such questions are dealt which in depth? If not, that is where your question really belongs, because this is the Pine newsgroup, not a procmail group. People here may in fact use procmail, but because this is not a procmail group you may or may not get a knowledgeable answer to your inquiry. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:14:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA32375 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA17015 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:10:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sums2.rdg.ac.uk (sums2.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.44.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA17011 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:10:22 -0800 Received: from suma3.rdg.ac.uk (actually host suma3-e3.rdg.ac.uk) by sums2.rdg.ac.uk with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:10:05 +0000 Received: from localhost by suma3.rdg.ac.uk (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id MAA24543; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:10:02 GMT Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:09:58 +0000 (GMT) From: John Hench To: Enhancement Suggestion Subject: Here's an idea Message-ID: Precedence: bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Dear Pine developers, I had an idea that might be of use. Sometimes I accidentally delete a letter and because I have become so used to the prompts and answer them so quickly, I sometimes end up deleting the file even though I'm asked if I really want to do this. Could pine encorporate a "waste-basket" or a "file 13" that would collect all of these discarded letters just to be safe? It could delete the file periodically so at least you would have a chance to recover the file. The idea is like this. Say there were two waste files - "File-13" and "File-14". When PINE starts up, it would delete one of these files, say "File-13". When it closes, it would move all deleted files to the now emptied "File-13". The next time Pine started, it would delete "File-14" and when it closed it would move all deleted files to "File-14". With this strategy, if I made a mistake and wanted to restore one of the letters that I had deleted, I would have at least one last chance to move that letter back into one of my save files. BTW, you needn't make this option so transparent - it could be incorporated in a "Restore Lost Letters" command. What do you think? Cheers, John ------------------------------------------------- Dr. J.J. Hench Dept. of Mathematics, Univ. of Reading, England Institute of Informatics and Automation, Prague ------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:53:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA04023 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA23289 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:48:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA23285 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:48:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQxlz-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 07:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Customizing the header - how ? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:00:23 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can i customize the e-mail header in pine ver 3.94 ? I want to add some Fields to my header. Please post your suggestions directly to: E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:12:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA06381 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA22555 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:08:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA22551 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:08:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vQz4O-00038bC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 09:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vince LaMonica Subject: Re: Procmail! Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:35:07 GMT It was the Dawn of the 3rd Age of Man (or around 14 Nov 1996 23:16:57 -0800) when Dinesh R. Thakkar stated: } On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: } > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: } > } > -> Can any please tell me what is procmail? Does it help in filtering } > -> messages to respective folders? Where will I get more information? } > Yes, procmail is applicable to you if you use Un*x. Get the package from } > your nearest USENET comp.sources.misc or at ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de } > pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz } Let me explain the setup I use. I am using a DOS based PC system to call } up at the ISP. As far as I know, they too are not aware of procmail. They } are using a UNIX system. I access Pine and Lynx which is resident on the } ISP's hard disk. How can I still use procmail? What changes will have the } ISP do? Or can I do them for myself? I have access to the shell prompt. You can install `procmail' on the ISP's system (hard disk) and use it with `pine'. `procmail' allows you to (among other things) presort mail into separate folders. You can set up `pine' to use the same folders. eg: all mail from the Ibrowse (a W3 client) mailing list gets put into a folder called "ibrowse" within my ~/.mailbox dir (my ~/.mailbox dir is where incoming mail is stored - not in /usr/spool/mail/$USER). I then set up `pine''s Incoming Folders option to add the folder "~/.mailbox/ibrowse" (nicknamed it Ibrowse). Hope this helps some (and if it didn't, let me know...) Vince -- vjl@netcom.com I use AIX because someone told me it was Vince LaMonica admirable to work with the handicapped. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:22:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA06657 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:22:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA22922 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:17:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA22918 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:17:26 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:03:26 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id RAA16175; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:03:28 GMT Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:03:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Robert Duic cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Customizing the header - how ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" To add custom headers to Pine: 1. Start Pine 2. Go to the Setup Configuration screen ("S" then "C" at the Main Menu) 3. Look down list of options for "customized-hdrs". 4. Put cursor on this option and ask Pine for help by typing "?". Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Robert Duic wrote: > > How can i customize the e-mail header in pine ver 3.94 ? > I want to add some Fields to my header. > > Please post your suggestions directly to: > > > > E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:37:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA08761 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA27654 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:33:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA27650 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:33:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR0Nr-00038bC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 10:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chuck Carlson Subject: PC-Pine and Unix mbox folders Date: 20 Nov 1996 18:48:23 GMT Message-ID: <56vjpn$81b@news.wco.com> Can PC-Pine download Unix Pine folders on a shell account? My guess is no but if anyone knows how to do this, please let me know. Thanks Chuck Carlson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:48:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA08921 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA25343 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:43:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA25339 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:43:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR0YW-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 10:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 21 Nov 1996 14:12:40 GMT Message-ID: <571o0o$5p2@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) writes: >.FI>: >Distribution: >Holger Lillqvist (lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI) wrote: >: On 14 Nov 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: >: : > More specifically, support for threading and kill files... This is >: Paul O Bartlett wrote: >: : better than the nothing of Pine, which I agree is grievously lacking >: Why this rather desperate desire to have both mail and news in one package? >: Why not just select and combine the best programs there are around - editor, >: mail program, newsreader? Switching between mail and news programs is a >: matter of seconds, and takes no longer than switching between functions >: inside the rather slow and sluggish pine. Why switch? If you are on a windowing computer you should be able to have both pine and a real newsreader open at the same time. I run Solaris 2.x and always have pine open in an xterm in the lower right hand corner. I usually read news with nn in an xterm right above it. You could do something similar with telnet on Windoze or MuckOS. When I am logged in from my ancient DOS laptop from the road I use shell job control to have them both running and switch back and forth using that mechanism so that I do not have to stop or start either one. >: Wouldn't it be better if the pine team concentrated on making the mail >: program better and faster, and at least for the time being left the news >: business to specialists? I maintain nn, tin, elm and pine at my site. I use nn and pine. Many of my users really like pine for reading news when they first start out, but almost any of them who become familiar with the feature set of nn or tin switch to one of those for reading news. The real news power users seem to prefer nn. I think if the pine team would ignore all requests for enhancement of the news features and concentrate on keeping pine the best MUA I have used the world would truly be a better place. I think efforts to make it rival nn, trn, tin, etc. are ill-placed and ill-considered. Leave news there for the non power user, but don't do anything except fix egregious bugs. >Thank you Holger; That's the most intelligent post on this newsgroup in >weeks. He has a good point folks. PINE is IMHO the best email program >around for both novices and propellerheads. Sure it has a few hard to use >features, but they're all there if you take the time to read the help and >run thru the Setup and Config and learn how to use the ? context sensitive >help screens. Having said that, pine is NOT a very good newsreader, in >fact it's probably one of the worst. TIN is far better if you are on an >ISP with a shell account. It can thread, has killfile capability, etc all >the stuff everyone is complaining about here. Mail and News are 2 If you have a really fast, easy-to-use newsreader, threads and advanced killfile features are not the most important thing. I dislike reading news with tin almost as much as I dislike reading news with pine or netscape. I have been reading news several hours a day since the late 80's and there is nothing else that allows me to wade through 1000 or more newsposts that might accumulate in the groups I read regularly in a couple of days away than nn. >different animals, and while pine allows us to also copy to news and tin >allows us to also send mail, IMO using pine as a newsreader is about as >smart as using tin as a mail program or using your microwave as an oven or >using your lawnmower as a food processor; They were designed for 2 >different things. That's it; I'm done preaching; Now I'm gonna post this >from TIN and go to PINE to read my email. All flames are welcome; It's >cold here ;-) > /\ /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> >John (aka DearOldDad)/ \/\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! >Pocono Mtns PA / / \/ / / /email/dad@epix.net / | >USA EARTH ____/___/____\/__/_ http://www.epix.net/~dad |\____ -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:10:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA08726 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA25877 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:06:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA25867 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:06:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id GAA11787; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 06:05:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 06:05:52 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: John Hench cc: Enhancement Suggestion Subject: Re: Here's an idea In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John Seems to me the proposed enhancement is to accomodate the symptom of a problem rather than attacking - and eliminating - the cause of it. The solution to your problem may lie in the first para below. Are the prompts not designed properly? How can that aspect be improved to reduce or eliminate unintended deletions? I too receive a lot (?) of mail (200-300 messages/day) but have not experienced the problem you described. On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, John Hench wrote: > Dear Pine developers, > > I had an idea that might be of use. Sometimes I > accidentally delete a letter and because I have > become so used to the prompts and answer them > so quickly, I sometimes end up deleting the file > even though I'm asked if I really want to do > this. Could pine encorporate a "waste-basket" or > a "file 13" that would collect all of these > discarded letters just to be safe? It could > delete the file periodically so at least you > would have a chance to recover the file. > > The idea is like this. Say there were two waste > files - "File-13" and "File-14". When PINE > starts up, it would delete one of these files, > say "File-13". When it closes, it would move all > deleted files to the now emptied "File-13". The > next time Pine started, it would delete "File-14" > and when it closed it would move all deleted > files to "File-14". With this strategy, if I made > a mistake and wanted to restore one of the > letters that I had deleted, I would have at least > one last chance to move that letter back into one > of my save files. BTW, you needn't make this > option so transparent - it could be incorporated > in a "Restore Lost Letters" command. > > What do you think? Cheers, John > > ------------------------------------------------- > Dr. J.J. Hench > Dept. of Mathematics, Univ. of Reading, England > Institute of Informatics and Automation, Prague > ------------------------------------------------- > Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. __o _`\<,_ (_)/ (_) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:51:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA10019 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA29419 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:48:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA29415 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:48:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR1Z0-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 11:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nicole Markee Subject: Re: Sending Error, HPUX, Pine 3.95 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:36:20 -0500 Message-ID: <329600B4.7FA4@reston.ans.net> References: <56cmvp$ati@decaxp.harvard.edu> <3295CA18.77D2@reston.ans.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nicole Markee wrote: > > I'm also having a problem with Pine 3.95 for HPUX. I'm running version > 9.0. > > Pine seems to be fine by appearances. I had no trouble compliling, and > my mail folders look exactly as expected. I receive mail fine. I tried > to send a message this morning, and I got this error: > > Mail not sent. Sending error: 451 queuename: Cannot create "qfAA02305" OK, I fixed the error message. I had a permissions problem on the mail queue. I still have a problem sending mail: None of my mail will go outside the firewall. I need to figure out a way to direct my outgoing mail there. No problem with incoming. No problem sending mail inside the firewall. Anyone done this before? Thanks, Nicole From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:25:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA28418 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA28936 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:19:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA28932 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:18:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR2yt-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 13:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: seawitch@tr-riscs.panam.edu (N. Robison) Subject: Imap 4.1 BETA Question Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 20:54:40 GMT Message-ID: <56t6q8$i2@leo.tr-riscs.panam.edu> I'm running on a Solaris 2.5 system, mail spool directory softlinked to is own disk, and nfs mounted. I'm also runing NIS+. The problem I'm having with imap is that when I try to connect I get a no such folder error.. With pine the error is: [SELECT failed: Can't open mailbox : no such folder] When I run Mtest I get connected but when I enter username and password I get: A00000 LOGIN A00000 OK LOGIN completed A00001 SELECT A00001 NO SELECT failed: Can't open mailbox : no such mailbox ?SELECT failed: Can't open mailbox : no such mailbox Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:51:26 -0600 (CST) imap2 mailbox: {mailhost}, 0 messages, 0 recent Anyone have any ideas, I'd appreciate any help. N. Robison UNIX System Administrator Technology Resources, University of Texas Pan American Email: seawitch@tr-riscs.panam.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:02:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA11946 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA02669 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:59:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA02665 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:59:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR3YD-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 13:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:20:33 -0800 Message-ID: References: <56sgvu$7t9@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <56sgvu$7t9@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> On 19 Nov 1996, Steve Howie wrote: > Excellent point, Bruno. I'd assume that it would be relatively easy to > "unbundle" the news functionality from Pine and leave the core program > intact. While the intent of providing a Pine-like interface for news > reading is admirable (and actually implemented quite nicely), news support > is a bit of baggage we could do without. Howzabout making it an > installable feature when Pine is built? Pine's news support is not a significant amount of code, and the code that is specifically for news is shrinking. > Like you, I'd prefer IMAP4 support over news enhancements. This statement makes less sense than you think. To support IMAP4, we must support hierarchical names, subscriptions, and UID management. That's most of what constitutes Pine's news support. The code that babbles NNTP is very small and shrinking -- it's just 2/3 the size in Pine 4.0 (less than 32K now) that it was in Pine 3.95. In terms of what would be added to support news, we want threading for mail too. In fact, because of IMAP4 support it's hard to think of much that is news-specific at all, other than the NNTP code and recognition of Newsgroups:, Followup-To:, and References: headers. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:04:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA12581 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA00143 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:02:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA00139 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:01:59 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA04655; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:01:43 -0800 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:01:42 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Chuck Carlson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine and Unix mbox folders In-Reply-To: <56vjpn$81b@news.wco.com> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chuck, I'm not sure I understand your question, but: if your Unix machine is running an IMAP server, PC-Pine can probably get at any of your folders stored on the Unix machine... whereupon you can ask PC-Pine to store a message locally, or in a different folder on the IMAP server. -teg On 20 Nov 1996, Chuck Carlson wrote: > Can PC-Pine download Unix Pine folders on a shell account? My guess is no > but if anyone knows how to do this, please let me know. > > Thanks > > Chuck Carlson > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:28:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA13190 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA00703 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:24:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA00699 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:24:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR3w6-00038cC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 14:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: terzic@mda.ca (Veselin Terzic) Subject: cmsg cancel <56ij81$ics@mailer.mda.ca> Control: cancel <56ij81$ics@mailer.mda.ca> Date: 20 Nov 1996 23:27:01 GMT Message-ID: <570445$th0@mailer.mda.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Article cancelled from within tin [v1.3 950824BETA PL0] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:01:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA28901 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA01538 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:58:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gbms01.uwgb.edu (gbms01.uwgb.edu [143.200.128.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA01526 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:58:45 -0800 Received: from CS2110 (143.200.21.10) by GBMS01.UWGB.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #19171) id <01IC5JPK9VUW00008C@GBMS01.UWGB.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:59:14 -0800 (PST) From: "David G. Kieper" Subject: Global Address Book Performance To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-X-Sender: kieperd@gbms01.uwgb.edu I am testing the use of a global address book with about 650 entries (nickname, full name, and address). Each time I call up the address book, or each time I space a page down in it, PC-Pine V3.95 spends about 10 - 15 seconds accessing the file. I have tried moving the file from a server directory to the local pc. I have insured that the LU file is created and even tried setting it as read-only. I have tried sorting the file and matching the address sort pinerc entry to be the same. However, the file access seems to keep going on. Any ideas? Regards, David G. Kieper office: (414) 465-2309 Associate Director desk: (414) 465-2238 Computing and Information Technology fax: (414) 465-2864 University of Wisconsin - Green Bay internet: kieperd@uwgb.edu Green Bay, WI 54311-7001 USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:02:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA01054 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA05640 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:59:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA05636 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:59:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR5RA-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 15:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ebromber@forest.drew.edu Subject: Customizing header Message-ID: <1996Nov22.174358.151732@forest> Date: 22 Nov 96 17:43:58 EST When I looked at the help text for customized headers it said something about Reply-To:. I know what that is but it also said you can have a header Approved:. what is the point of this header? thankx ebromber@drew.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:22:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA15814 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA03657 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:19:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA03653 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:19:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR5mi-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 16:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae@is.dal.ca (Aidan Evans) Subject: Undiagnosed "extract" failures when disk quota exceeded Date: 19 Nov 1996 21:59:13 GMT Message-ID: <56tajh$1iv@News.Dal.Ca> Using Pine 3.95 on AIX 4.1.4 with disk quotas enabled: A user reported that a file was destroyed when he attempted to extract a message and append it to the file and in doing so exceeded his disk quota. When I looked at the file, a 600K+ pre-destruction copy of which was in our backup system, it had a size of zero. I have not been able to duplicate this exactly, but I ran into an alternate problem. I created a test file and set my quota down to within a few blocks of my current disk usage. I then repeated extracted a message of about 800 bytes and appended it to the test file. When I reached the disk quota I got a message at the bottom of the screen that the extract operation had failed. This is fine, and the test file was intact-ish: the original data was there plus part of the message being extracted. I'm not actually over quota; AIX says I'm within one block of it: Disk quotas for user ae (uid 4708): Filesystem blocks quota limit grace files quota limit grace /home 46522 0 46523 4198 0 0 I then attempted another extract of the about 800 bytes file, specified to append to the test file, and was told that the append had succeeded. However, the test file was unchanged. I did an extract to a new file, and was also told that it had succeeded. The file had been created, but was empty. Aidan Evans | AE@AC.Dal.CA | Computer Facilities & Operations | 494-3332 | University Computing & Information Services From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:37:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA17831 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA08278 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:34:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA08274 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:34:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR6xq-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 17:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Levinson Subject: "Sudden" loss of rimap capability Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:38:21 -0500 Message-ID: <329325ED.7C6F@ll.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I solaris 2.5.1 running on both my workstation and the mail server. IMAP used to work so that I did not have to login again (Pre-Auth?). Now all of a sudden, this does not work and I get the errormessage [Can't connect to tau,143: Connection refused] There are two other workstations that still work fine. I tried: 1. rsh to server and exec /etc/rimapd: OK 2. telnet to server at 143: FAIL 3. telnet to server: OK (See below.) My home directory is local to my workstation and gets mapped to /home/harry via auto_home. This is true of the mail server as well. What could have changed, or more importantly what should I try next. harry tau% grep imap /etc/services imap 143/tcp tau% grep imap /etc/inetd.conf rimap stream tcp nowait root /etc/rimapd rimapd strata% rsh tau exec /etc/rimapd TERM: Undefined variable. * PREAUTH tau IMAP2bis Service 7.8(92) at Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:30:11 -0500 (EST) strata% telnet tau 143 Trying 155.34.136.28... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused strata% telnet tau Trying 155.34.136.28... Connected to tau. Escape character is '^]'. UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0 (tau) login: ^C login: harry Password: Last login: Wed Nov 20 10:12:51 from marauder Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.5.1 Generic May 1996 You have mail. ld.so.1: xset: fatal: libXext.so.5.0: can't open file: errno=2 Killed ld.so.1: xhost: fatal: libXmu.so.5.0: can't open file: errno=2 Killed Wed Nov 20 10:30:49 EST 1996 TERM is xterm You have mail. tau:/home/harry -- ============================================================ | Harry Levinson | (617)981-5550 | | MIT Lincoln Lab | | | 244 Wood St. S2-234A | (617)981-5255 FAX | | Lexington MA 02173 | levinson@ll.mit.edu | ============================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:37:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA18199 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA09199 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:34:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA09195 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:34:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR7u6-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 18:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikeh@marcel.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Hollyman) Subject: IMAP and 3.95 with multiple accounts? Date: 15 Nov 1996 21:13:40 GMT Message-ID: <56ime4$phu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I'm looking at the IMAP server and pine, and was wondering this: I have a unix client of pine, I'd like to contact a remote IMAP server and have one folder as one user, the other folder as another. My goal is to have one client that is able to read other mail, like manager mail, but just as another folder. I can get by this, by not using the .rhosts files for either username, but would rather it just advertise itself as the other user, so that no passowrds would need to be involved. Anyone know if this is possible? The only info I see only lets you give a remote host and folder name, not a user name, per folder... Thanks, Mike -- Mike Hollyman www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/mikeh Computing & Communications Services Office (217) 244-8724 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:38:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA18322 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA06684 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:34:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA06680 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:34:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR7qZ-00038bC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 18:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be (Benjamin Gonay) Subject: PGP & PINE...? Date: 21 Nov 1996 16:43:33 GMT Message-ID: <5720rl$i0d@sugar.h.belgacom.be> Hello all, I've opened a Linux server with of course Pine as mail reader. I'm asking me if there is a mean to use the PGP encode programm with Pine. If yes, how ?, and with wich program, and where to find it...? I'm new to this matter (pgp)... Or is there any FAQ on PGP....? Thanks a lot. -- Cybersalutations ;-) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Email : Benjamin.Gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be _/ _/ From Brussels, Belgium , capital of Europe... _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:57:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA17161 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA07774 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:54:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA07768 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:54:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vR9Ac-00038ZC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 19:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Geoff Gauglitz Subject: Pine 3.95 & Eudora 3.0 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:47:29 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a problem and can't seem to find an answer to it. I have a unix shell account with pine installed and i also have a PPP account for which i have Eudora 3.0. When i have Eudora get my mail from my unix shell it deletes it from Pine,... which is a bad bad thing. I already lost like 2 work emails becuase of this. The simple fix is never to use Eudora but i'm sure there has to be a better answer.. I couldn't find anything in the settings in Eudora,.. I'm thinking maybe the answer is in Pine,... I dunno,.... Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm ready to offer my firstborn, a pint or 2 of my blood or a nonessential organ for a fix to this.. Thanks in advance,.... if you could also email me the answer-- i don't really check the newsgroups that much Geoff "I'll give you an organ" Gauglitz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:23:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA20692 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA12234 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:20:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA12225 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:19:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRBMq-00038bC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 22:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sboddy@freenet.victoria.bc.ca (Stewart Boddy) Subject: alternate character sets Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:34:47 GMT At Victoria Freenet we're using Pine 3.91 with Pico. I would like to know if Pine supports any alternate character sets suich as Cryllic (sp?) or Korean, Chinese, or Japanese character sets. If Pine does support some other character sets what additional software is needed and does that software have to be provided on the server or on the user's machine? Stewart. =================================================================== There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who understand mathematics, and those who don't. =================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:47:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA18986 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA09969 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:44:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from xmission.xmission.com (xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA09965 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:44:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (slick_rk@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.3/8.7.5) with SMTP id XAA05857; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:44:45 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:44:45 -0700 (MST) From: Rick To: Krispie cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reading news in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Krispie wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently (with a bit of help) managed to configure pine to > let me read the news groups, however when I have read a message it marks > it as read but next time I access the newsgroup it is marked as unread. > > If anyone could throw some light on this I'd be most appreciative. > > Cheers, Kris. > > > My experience has been that once you read the article, delete it like you would anyother piece of mail. Doing this I have had no problems. Amiga/ / slick_rk@xmission.com 500 / / Rick Kelley \ \/ / 2725 Grant Ave. \/\/ Ogden, UT 84401 -------------------------------------------- Member of "Team AMIGA" -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:10:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA18914 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA10297 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:07:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA10293 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:07:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id SAA29181; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 18:07:38 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 18:07:37 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: Stewart Boddy cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Joke, clean. Was Re: alternate character sets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Stewart Boddy wrote: SNIPPED > > Stewart. > =================================================================== > There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who understand > mathematics, and those who don't. > =================================================================== Joke:> MATH KNOWLEDGE Two mathematicians were having dinner in a restaurant, arguing about the average mathematical knowledge of the American public. One mathematician claimed that this average was woefully inadequate, the other maintained that it was surprisingly high. "I'll tell you what," said the cynic, "ask that waitress a simple math question. If she gets it right, I'll pick up dinner. If not, you do." He then excused himself to visit the men's room, and the other called the waitress over. "When my friend comes back," he told her, "I'm going to ask you a question, and I want you to respond `one third x cubed.' There's twenty bucks in it for you." She agreed. The cynic returned from the bathroom and called the waitress over. "The food was wonderful, thank you," the mathematician started. "Incidentally, do you know what the integral of x squared is?" The waitress looked pensive; almost pained. She looked around the room, at her feet, made gurgling noises, and finally said, "Um, one third x cubed?" So the cynic paid the check. The waitress wheeled around, walked a few paces away, looked back at the two men, and muttered under her breath, "...plus a constant." _________________________________________________________________ Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. __o _`\<,_ (_)/ (_) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:53:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA18884 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA10805 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:50:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA10801 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:50:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRCpj-00038cC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 23:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 21 Nov 1996 19:08:08 GMT Message-ID: References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> <571o0o$5p2@news.eecs.umich.edu> On 21 Nov 1996 14:12:40 GMT, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: [You wrote ]I have been reading news several hours a day since the late 80's and there Reading Usenet for several hours a day? Ummm.. What do you do for a living? I would sure like to work there :) Ahhh.. so some people are actually living the life I am dreaming of :) --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:53:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA18499 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA10811 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:50:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA10807 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:50:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRCpx-00038fC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 23:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: how to customise reply follow-up? Date: 21 Nov 1996 18:55:44 GMT Message-ID: References: Nope, according to Dave Miller (one of Pine's authors), not at this time (Pine 3.95). I had asked him this question as an aside in some emails we were exchanging about some other topic. I, too, would like to see the reply-to string user-customizable. (Sigh...) --Vikas On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:13:37 -0500, jamie wrote: [You wrote ]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [You wrote ] [You wrote ] This has been, I'm sure, asked and answered here before. [You wrote ]Is there a way, beyond actually hacking the source code, [You wrote ]to customise the "On <$DATE>, <$DORK> wrote:" field [You wrote ]in reply mode? [You wrote ] thanks for any help. [You wrote ] [You wrote ]jamie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:54:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA20858 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA13295 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:50:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA13291 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:50:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRCq3-00038gC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 23:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roessler@sobolev.rhein.de (Thomas Roessler) Subject: bug: tenex folders & folder indices Date: 22 Nov 1996 21:45:18 GMT Message-ID: <5756te$47e@sobolev.rhein.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In one of the discussions here, Pine development people suggested to use the tenex format for big incoming mail folders. To check things out, I created a ~/mail.txt file; pine immediately started to make it a tenex format incoming folder. Things seemed to work fine - but there is one problem: I have my messages sorted by the date they were *sent*. Now, pine doesn't seem to keep incoming folder's index display in sync with the messages, so if I try to display message A, I am presented with message B, while message A will show up one or more times at different points of the folder index, with still other messages hiding behind it. I'd consider this a serious problem, since I'm almost certain that I've been deleting mails I didn't want to delete due to this. I've returned to the traditional unix-style folder whose handling doesn't seem to have this »feature«.. While we are on it: There seems to be a small but annoying bug in the MIME display code. While displaying a text attachment, pine will show it properly when I scroll by hitting the space bar. But when I use the cursor keys to move downward in the message, an empty line is being inserted between every two lines of text. tlr -- Thomas Roessler http://home.pages.de/~roessler/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:54:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA21434 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA13289 for pine-info-out; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:50:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA13285 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:50:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRCpp-00038eC; Fri, 22 Nov 96 23:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 21 Nov 1996 19:12:48 GMT Message-ID: References: On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:31:04 -0800, Mark Crispin wrote: [You wrote ]We will use XOVER and have full news threading in a future version of [You wrote ]Pine. We will also take advantage of the new NNTP extensions being [You wrote ]discussed now in the IETF; for example, the NNTP guys are adding [You wrote ]server-based searching that is quite similar to the capability that is in [You wrote ]IMAP. We will certainly want to use server-based search if it is [You wrote ]available. Our intent is not to match tin and other newsreaders. Our [You wrote ]intent is to do better. Mark, while we are on this topic, where can I get details about the latest NNTP protocol? RFC977 has become as old as troff/tbl :) Is the latest NNTP being used by the newsreaders today published somewhere? Can you please point me to it? [You wrote ] [You wrote ]From my perspective, the claim that Pine should abandon news support [You wrote ]because dedicated newsreaders (such as tin) thread better is something [You wrote ]like the claim that these new-fangled automobiles should be abandoned [You wrote ]since horses are much more reliable than gasoline engines. New [You wrote ]technologies are always vulnerable to unfavorable comparisons with [You wrote ]established technologies. Just give it a chance to mature, OK? A superb and dignified rebuttal. I respect you for this. --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:48:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA21712 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA13968 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:45:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA13964 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:45:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRDhz-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 00:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Weaver Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:33:29 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Nov 1996, Xu Fan wrote: > Dear sir: > I want to ask a question: How to send a math file by e-mail? > Your help will be important to me and be appreciated. > Best Regards, > Yours sincerely, > Xu Fan I'm not sure what you mean by a "math file". However, if you mean that it is something other than simple text, I would suggest using uuencode. If you had a file called "math" in your unix homedirectory, you could proceed as follows: 1. At the unix prompt, type: uuencode math math > math.uu This will yield a new file called math.uu, which is a uuencoded version of your original file. The second "math" in the command line just indicates that when math.uu is uudecoded by the recipient, the decoded file will be called "math". The "> math.uu" is needed to direct the output to the file math.uu. Without this, the output will just scroll by on the screen. 2. A uuencoded file is ascii text, and so can be read into an e-mail message with CTRL-R. Alternatively, you can send it as an attachment (CTRL-J). 3. The recipient will have to either (E)xport the message or (S)ave the attachment to his/her unix homedirectory. Then after quitting PINE, they need to type: uudecode math.uu I hope this answers your question. Cheers, Bruce Weaver UWB, Psychology pss091@bangor.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:38:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA22050 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA12090 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:35:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA12086 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:35:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRESl-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 01:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: houston@felix.geog.mcgill.ca (Lawrence Houston) Subject: Invalid OpenVMS Attachment Names! Date: 20 Nov 1996 22:27:25 GMT Message-ID: <5700kd$d75@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> In sending Binary Attachments from Pine for OpenVMS (3.91 - PMDF V5.0) to non-OpenVMS Hosts the Name used is the full VMS Path looking something like: DISK?:FILENAME.;N All these special characters make the filename "invalid" for many non-OpenVMS receiving E-mail Applications! Is there a way for Pine to use just the FINENAME portion, as UNIX versions of Pine would do? -- Lawrence Houston - (houston@felix.geog.mcgill.ca) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:01:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA21636 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA12346 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:58:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA12342 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:57:59 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA06494; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 15:24:09 +0530 Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 15:24:09 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Harry Levinson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: general In-Reply-To: <329325ED.7C6F@ll.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi everybody, can somebody please suggest a few mailing lists and/or irc channels where i can clarify my other internet related queries (for beginners) thanks, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:08:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA10992 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA17013 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:05:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA17009 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:05:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRHle-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 05:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Re: Pine and SCO Unix Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:50:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <961120125024_1284763580@emout14.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <961120125024_1284763580@emout14.mail.aol.com> www2.sco.com/Skunk96/dist/Tools/pine-3.94/pine.gz E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl On 20 Nov 1996 Gln1208@aol.com wrote: > We are looking for binary and source for Pine running under SCO Unix > Operserver 5. > > Thank You > > GLN1208@AOL.COM > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:24:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA08170 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA14878 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:20:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA14874 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:20:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRHzD-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 05:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rameshg@Sun.COM (Ramesh Gunna) Subject: threading news articles Date: 22 Nov 1996 01:58:25 GMT Message-ID: <5731c1$g80@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Hi: Is there a way that u can thread news articles in Pine. Is it possible to show the number of articles in each newgroup/folder next to the name of the folder. Thanks in Advance. -- Ramesh ------------------------------ rameshg@sharavathi.eng.sun.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:58:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA23956 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA17591 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:55:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA17587 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:55:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRIYE-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 05:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anatoly Oreshkin Subject: loss of interrupted message Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:33:02 +0300 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have PINE 3.95 installed on SCO ODT 3.0. I login in SCO using dial-up connection. Sometimes when i am composing message a connection is broken. After resetting dial-up connection i am trying continue to compose message and i see pine saying " Use compose command to contunue interrupted message". I use compose command but receive pine message "Empty folder. No messages really postponed!" It's interesting that on other platforms for example Solaris 2.4, Irix 5.3 interrupted message is saved and i can continue to compose message. Any ideas ? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:49:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA24059 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA16417 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:46:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA16413 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:46:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRKEd-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 07:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbolting@nemonet.com (Stephen Boltinghouse) Subject: Just try this, it will work Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:47:03 GMT Message-ID: <354.896244412754@news.nemonet.com> Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months. think about it. You see those 'Make.Money.Fast' posts more and more. That's ... because it WORKS ! So I thought, all those new users might make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago. Besides, whats $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted. Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from AOL, Netcom, etc. they will join in and make it work for you. Well, two weeks later, I began recieving bucks in the mail! I couldn't believe it! Not just a little, I mean big bucks! At first only a few hundred dollars, then a week later, a couple of thousand, then BOOM. By the end of the fourth week, I had recieved nearly $47,000.00. It came from all over the world. And every bit of it perfectly legal and on the up and up. I've been able to pay off all my bills and still had enough left over for a nice vacation for me and my family. Not only does it work for me, it works for other folks as well. Markus Valppu says he made $57,883 in four weeks. Dave Manning claims he made $53,664 in the same amount of time. Dan Shepstone says it was only $17,000 for him. Do I know these folks? No, but when I read how they say they did it, it made sense to me. Enough sense that I'm taking a similar chance with $5 of my own bucks. Not a big chance, I admit--but one with incredible potential, because $5 is all anyone ever invests in this system. Period. That's all Markus, Dave, or Dan invested, yet their $5 netted them tens of thousands of dollars each, in a safe, legal, completely legitimate way. Here's how it works in 3 easy steps: STEP 1. Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate pieces of paper along with the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (In this way, you're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're paying for a legitimate service.) Fold a $1 bill, money order, or bank note inside each paper, and mail them by standard U. S. Mail to the following five addresses: 1- Fern Suarez Mallorca 112 Hato Rey, P.R., USA, 00917 2- Philippe 2104 De Mexico Chomedey, Laval Quebec, Canada H7M 3C6 3- Natalie Jansen Lancveldlaan 18 5671 CN Nuenen Holland 4- Chad Collier 2785 Cold Springs Rd. #49 Placerville, CA 95667 5- Steve Boltinghouse 1009 Bird St. Hannibal, MO 63401 STEP 2. Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other names up.This way, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name in as the fifth one on the list. STEP 3. Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at least 19000 newsgroups at any given moment in time. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can. Remember the more groups you post to, the more people will see your article and send you cash! STEP 4. You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the Internet is new and huge. There is no way you can lose. Now here is how and why this system works: Out of every block of 250 posts I made, I got back 5 responses. Yes, thats right,only 5. You make $5.00 in cash, not checks or money orders, but real cash with your name at #5. Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 250 additional postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings. On average then, 50 people will send you $1.00 with your name at #4,....$50.00 in your pocket! Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people= $500. They make 250 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000 postings=5000 returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash! Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at #1 and you get a return of $60,000 before your name drops off the list.And that's only if everyone down the line makes only 250 postings each! Your total income for this one cycle is $55,000. From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list, you take the latest posting you can find and start all over again. The end result depends on you. You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of. The more postings you make, the more cash ends up in your mailbox. It's too easy and too cheap to pass up!!! So thats it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it works. There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all day, all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net every day. You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper. So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it. Print this out right now so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real, then don't do it. But please print this article and pass it along to someone you know who really needs the bucks, and see what happens. REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH! *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10,000! TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!! :o) !!!!!!!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:43:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA18641 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:43:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA19333 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:41:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA19329 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:41:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRL5E-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 08:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@linux.scott.home (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: news index Date: 20 Nov 1996 07:36:33 GMT Message-ID: References: On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:07:34 -0600, Greg L Stassi wrote: > >Hey > >in the index how come it says everybody's name or email address and for my >posts it says: "to:comp.mail.pine."?! > >gs > Because, presumably, you know who sent posts that you sent. It's there to give you information which should be more useful than your own name. Makes more sense in a mail folder. Take a look at your sent-mail folder - you'll see the addresses you sent mail to, instead of your own name umpty-gazillion times. Convenient, no? -- Scott Buntin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:52:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA24960 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA17167 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:49:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA17160 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:49:52 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA18388; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:49:49 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:49:49 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Ramesh Gunna cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: threading news articles In-Reply-To: <5731c1$g80@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For both questions: "Not at this time." -teg On 22 Nov 1996, Ramesh Gunna wrote: > Hi: > Is there a way that u can thread news articles in Pine. > > Is it possible to show the number of articles in each newgroup/folder > next to the name of the folder. > > Thanks in Advance. > > -- > Ramesh ------------------------------ rameshg@sharavathi.eng.sun.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:05:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA24238 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA18101 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:01:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA18094 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:01:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRMKi-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 09:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rick Slaugh Subject: Re: Suppressing recipients e-mail addresses Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:43:05 -0600 Message-ID: <328FBF29.3C38@visi.com> References: <1996Nov13.144113.150885@forest> <56fn11$jo9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ramesh Gunna wrote: > > Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: > : On 13 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > > : > I often have to mail one letter out to many people. But what I want to > : > know, is there a way to suppress the recipients e-mail addresses, so that > : > anyone who receives the message will not know who else it was sent to? > > : Depending on how current your version of Pine is, you can do one > : and maybe two different things. In any case, you can put the list of > : recipient addresses (using a nickname, if you have one) in the Bcc: > : header field. In that case, _be_sure_ to put *something* in the To: > : field, such as your own address (you have to "fake out" the mailing > : system). If you have a later version of Pine, you can use the Lcc: > : header field. Both of these should be amply explained in the online > : help. (Use ^R to get "Rich Headers" if you need to in order to use > : these fields.) > > : Paul > : ---------------------------------------------------------- > : Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > : Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > : Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > As a follow up on this topic, is it perfectly legal & ethical to > supress the recipients address in a mailing list. > > I would like to know what others think. > -- > regards, > Ramesh I have found this most useful when broadcasting a messagfe to a large group of people in our company. If I send a message to a list called "os" in our global address book it will go to about 80 people. Paging through 80 addresses to get to the message is a real pain. In our organization I encourage people to use bcc and then make it clear in the beginning of the message who it was sent to so that people don't start bouncing the message all over the place thinking "Gee, I'll bet Ramesh would love to see this message. I wonder if he got it. I'll forward it to him just in case." I add something like this to the tops of my broadcast messages: =============================================== THIS MESSAGE WAS SENT TO ALL OUTSIDE SALES REPS =============================================== Rick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:38:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA25815 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA20851 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:36:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.compumedia.com (galadriel.compumedia.com [199.242.25.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA20847 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:36:12 -0800 Received: from localhost (alanr@localhost) by galadriel.compumedia.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01921 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:36:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:36:09 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Robinson X-Sender: alanr@galadriel To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been experiencing problems with the pine program. Any time a control key is required for a command nothing happens. Also my e-mail inbox is stuck in what is called "read-only" mode and I cannot delete messages. I have tried reading all of the help files and I have tried reconfiguring but to no avail. This "PINE" program is very cumbersome and difficult to use. It has a lot of bugs and does not seem to interface at all with MS Windows. It appears and acts like a program that was written many years ago. Is there not any program that is more up to date and user friendly that I could use. Thanks for your help. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Alan Robinson mmmmmm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:13:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA25548 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA21353 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:10:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from MAIN.nc.us (ns.main.nc.us [208.133.44.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA21349 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:10:19 -0800 Received: from madison.main.nc.us ([198.86.193.230]) by MAIN.nc.us (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA30901 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 14:10:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (annew@localhost) by madison.main.nc.us (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01627 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 14:10:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 14:10:16 -0500 (EST) From: Anne Whitefield To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: screen is black w. white letters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I prefer a white screen with black letters. How can I effect this change? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:50:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA26313 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA21865 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:46:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA21861 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:46:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRO0g-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 11:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Date: 23 Nov 1996 12:15:09 EST Control: cancel <354.896244412754@news.nemonet.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <354.896244412754@news.nemonet.com> no reply ignore Message-ID: MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was Just try this, it will work From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:25:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA26486 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA20042 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:21:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA20038 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:21:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vROZs-00038bC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 12:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Gerald Pfeifer) Subject: Re: BUG: resuming a composition. Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 20:08:21 GMT Message-ID: <329858cb.2863325@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 22 Nov 1996 wrote: >If I postpone a composition and then resume it, a line is added to the >bottom of a message. If it several times, many lines are added. This is a well-known problem which the Pine development team definitely is aware of. (I submitted this as Bug (ID RE3IB) and got an according reply from David L Miller .) So there's hope that this will get fixed in 4.00... Ciao, Gerald ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- .. Gerald Pfeifer (Jerry) Vienna University of Technology . .. pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:36:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA30335 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA28864 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:32:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA28860 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:32:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRX9p-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 21:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bonnetf@esiee.fr (Frank Bonnet) Subject: Where is the FAQ ? Date: 21 Nov 1996 11:41:41 +0100 Message-ID: <571bl5$7nq@bart.esiee.fr> Hi, Could someone email me the URL of the FAQ please ? Thanks. -- Frank From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:39:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA30411 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA26918 for pine-info-out; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:37:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA26912 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:37:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRXCT-00038ZC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 21:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: screen is black w. white letters Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 19:35:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Nov 1996, Anne Whitefield wrote: > I prefer a white screen with black letters. How can I effect this change? Your question doesn't really have anything to do with Pine at all. Pine does not do anything to affect the physical appearance of your display. That is totally controlled by the hardware and software of whatever you are using. Considering that there are at least 49,230,156 possible combinations :-) of display hardware and software, we can't really help you much without detailed information on your setup, and again, it doesn't really have anything to do with Pine. If you are affiliated with an organization, institution, or school, I would suggest checking with the help desk or computing center, if there is one. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 03:02:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA32520 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 03:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA02865 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 02:58:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA02861 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 02:58:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRcDa-00038ZC; Sun, 24 Nov 96 02:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chenyang Xu Subject: [Help?] pine lock not on FAQ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 20:32:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3297A5BE.41C6@jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, there, I had a problem with pine which gives me the following message when running, "can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly". Now I can't delete mails from my mailbox. However I can still use the "mail" program to delete my incoming mail. I searched on the FAQ of the pine but can't locate the answer. Any suggestions? Thanks, -- Chenyang Xu \\|// (o o) --------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------------------------- (o) 410-516-6819 | Fax:410-516-5566 chenyang@jhu.edu | http://iacl.ece.jhu.edu/~chenyang _________________________________________________________ / Image Analysis and Communication Lab / / Department of the Electric and Computer Engineering / / The Johns Hopkins University / / Baltimore, MD 21218 / ======================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 05:01:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA00380 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 05:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA02202 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 04:58:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA02198 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 04:58:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRe4L-00038ZC; Sun, 24 Nov 96 04:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Changing reply address Date: 22 Nov 1996 21:27:32 GMT Message-ID: References: <1996Nov22.130703.151713@forest> On 22 Nov 96 13:07:03 EST, ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: [You wrote ] I am using pine 3.91 for VMS. Is there anyway I can configure it so that [You wrote ] when people reply to my messages they are not sent back to the account [You wrote ] from which i sent them? If so how? Add a customized header: Reply-To: yourname@yourdomain.whatever You can add customized headers by going to the Main Menu/Setup/Config screen. For example, here is what my customized header says... customized-hdrs = Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com HTH, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:04:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA01552 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA06174 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 07:59:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA06170 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 07:59:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRgvM-00038bC; Sun, 24 Nov 96 07:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: how to customise reply follow-up? Date: 24 Nov 1996 15:19:00 GMT Message-ID: <579p14$3bo@due.unit.no> References: [Note: the below is not my usual quoting format, I am just demonstrating how bad it can become.] In article , Vikas Agnihotri wrote: (Vikas wrote)Nope, according to Dave Miller (one of Pine's authors), not at this (Vikas wrote)time (Pine 3.95). I had asked him this question as an aside in some (Vikas wrote)emails we were exchanging about some other topic. (Vikas wrote) (Vikas wrote) I, too, would like to see the reply-to string user-customizable. (Sigh...) _I_ would like to see the reply-indent-string _less_ so. Just look at how the format breaks with too long lines just by two persons replying to each other. And when the strings are not in any common format, it is impossible to reformat automatically. (Vikas wrote)On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:13:37 -0500, jamie wrote: (Vikas wrote)[You wrote ] This has been, I'm sure, asked and answered here before. (Vikas wrote)[You wrote ]Is there a way, beyond actually hacking the source code, (Vikas wrote)[You wrote ]to customise the "On <$DATE>, <$DORK> wrote:" field (Vikas wrote)[You wrote ]in reply mode? (Vikas wrote)[You wrote ] thanks for any help. Greetings, Ørjan. -- "I don't think USENET is an anarchy. It isn't that well-organised." - Simon Slavin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:18:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA01600 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA06344 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:15:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA06340 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:15:23 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA16887; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:59:04 +0530 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:59:03 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Harry Levinson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: general In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i have been told by my local service provider that i can access newsgroups thru pine. can any body please eloborate how do i go about. additionally, are there any resource guides also available on the net? bye, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:32:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA17876 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA04413 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:29:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA04409 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:29:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRhP7-00038ZC; Sun, 24 Nov 96 08:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Foley Subject: PGP i/f for Pine v3.95 under Linux Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:25:01 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am looking for an interface for PGP into Pine v3.95 under Linux. Name & ftp-site please. Replies by eMail appreciated. Thanks in advance. --- richard@reflex.ie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:53:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA05563 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:53:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA12187 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:47:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA12183 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:47:45 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA25366; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:44:54 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02489; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:47:43 -0600 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:47:42 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Richard Foley cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PGP i/f for Pine v3.95 under Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Richard Foley wrote: > I am looking for an interface for PGP into Pine v3.95 under Linux. Name & > ftp-site please. ftp://ftp.rivertown.net/pub/unix/privacy/mkpgp2.1.tar.gz or If you send blank e-mail to slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject: mkpgp the latest mkpgp will be e-mailed to you within the hour Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMpjehyGB07hAGnFhAQGIsAQAsbGn2OJtO9YXX/Z9d+KDPGe5YrkbWq8f sW31P7Ro8H1JAxYpdH2dLNt7N+QsO1CNjLjTW23loTrEgA4NC9+boOvGP4qn6LiV XKUUCbgsnB9uMvIcLUsK2jAog+yk/nAZY7U/QKallMmtRR6ZQa7tkFCycZsoFmzP XPpIdMJxqmA= =ZRBQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:55:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA05230 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA10025 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:51:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA10021 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:51:43 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA25448; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:48:54 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02593; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:51:46 -0600 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:51:45 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Benjamin Gonay cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PGP & PINE...? In-Reply-To: <5720rl$i0d@sugar.h.belgacom.be> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 21 Nov 1996, Benjamin Gonay wrote: > I've opened a Linux server with of course Pine as mail reader. > I'm asking me if there is a mean to use the PGP encode programm with > Pine. If yes, how ?, and with wich program, and where to find it...? > I'm new to this matter (pgp)... Or is there any FAQ on PGP....? Try http://pgp.rivertown.net/ It's run by the PGP-Users mailing list maintainer/owner. I recommend (and use) mkpgp2.1 for Linux+Pine+PGP. Take the link on the first page on pgp.rivertown.net, or you can ftp it at ftp://ftp.rivertown.net/pub/unix/privacy/mkpgp2.1.tar.gz Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMpjfcyGB07hAGnFhAQHvbgQA5QXqmWY2GRScy3pAm+iiGQ1Nefr9I59m KbS6YFmBhMUIg8AKZ1u8Wmd2tlkfFf1OSiNt95BQ/Bd1xdMAm0Evt1brTdJVN/DF iQDNLkEIdldP3L5+sD51tywlrbpPwaIaf7jEwAQU6krebRthBP7ZF0OTkNfVA1+3 MxyWictCqQQ= =ZGCJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:32:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA05840 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA12631 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:26:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA12627 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:26:32 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr38.interl.net [205.244.161.38]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA26188; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:23:44 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA02808; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:26:06 -0600 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:26:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Mike Hollyman cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP and 3.95 with multiple accounts? In-Reply-To: <56ime4$phu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 15 Nov 1996, Mike Hollyman wrote: > I'm looking at the IMAP server and pine, and was wondering this: I have > a unix client of pine, I'd like to contact a remote IMAP server and have > one folder as one user, the other folder as another. My goal is to have > one client that is able to read other mail, like manager mail, but just as > another folder. If you add each folder to the incoming folder collections, you can do something like this: incoming-folders="INBOX #1" {mail.imapserv.org/user=user1}INBOX, "INBOX #2" {mail.imapserv.org/user=user2}INBOX, "INBOX #3" {mail.imapserv.org/user=user3}INBOX I've done it before over here under Linux with Pine and the IMAP server running on the same machine, and it worked fine... > I can get by this, by not using the .rhosts files for either username, but > would rather it just advertise itself as the other user, so that no passowrds > would need to be involved. With the above, you're still the same person that you started Pine with, and it will prompt you for a password for each user's inbox. To read and write mail for that username, your best bet is to login as that person. Even if you were to use fetchmail (formerly popclient) to 'fetch' mail for multiple accounts, you would need multiple .pinerc's for the correct return address. That would be a nice feature of a future version of Pine, to be able to change From: tags from within Pine. I used to use that _all the time_ with timEd, way back when, when I was running a FidoNet BBS. So, the condensed answer to your question is: not that I know of. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMpjnASGB07hAGnFhAQGetAQAr5T6B+vuSezaKrVWpdyfq4r02uN+4tpm 0mD5MxXpREhkSElZp1DrZaGA6Hu9Et5Pgw6tix37GL1ohVwT+OjshENsIqgwp3eH 6zWh4dsSbZqPbEd6Gm1YLkYZza++66Ip1gdXGMGcd0rnFBA8UiqjLonC++3rEAV6 /6DD0tx6+SY= =nDIk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:44:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA04315 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA10566 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:40:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA10562 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:40:05 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr38.interl.net [205.244.161.38]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA26537; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:37:17 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA02963; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:40:01 -0600 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:40:00 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Geoff Gauglitz cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 & Eudora 3.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Geoff Gauglitz wrote: > I have a problem and can't seem to find an answer to it. > I have a unix shell account with pine installed and i also have a PPP > account for which i have Eudora 3.0. When i have Eudora get my mail from > my unix shell it deletes it from Pine,... which is a bad bad thing. I > already lost like 2 work emails becuase of this. > The simple fix is never to use Eudora but i'm sure there has to be a > better answer.. I couldn't find anything in the settings in Eudora,.. I'm > thinking maybe the answer is in Pine,... > I dunno,.... There is a setting in Eudora to "leave mail on server". I'm running Linux right now so I can't check Eudora itself (without rebooting and booting Win), but in the eudora.ini there is a setting LeaveMailOnServer. [Settings] LeaveMailOnServer=1 Sound=0 AutoReceiveAttachmentsDirectory=C:\FILES If you're not running Eudora, load it up with a text editor and change it to LeaveMailOnServer=1. That way Eudora won't delete the mail, and you can still read it with Pine later. > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > I'm ready to offer my firstborn, a pint or 2 of my blood or a nonessential > organ for a fix to this.. > Thanks in advance,.... if you could also email me the answer-- i don't > really check the newsgroups that much Thats ok, I have plenty of blood and organs, and don't need another firstborn ;-) Do you have any extra Pentium systems lying around? ;-) Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMpjq1CGB07hAGnFhAQFgOgP8CXKhlH2VlH0xKe4CH6ZG378SgY9g7Qva MLVkHctfEFAZPHVgXl2G2x198HDtkLueuYUnvS323x8s0XdaEjZCg4jOSx9Xjri6 WUjId9tRJTa/5lsuBWcVZsgpIDJzr/4W/IKmnHN1JhDn90H2n5bPirubu+wIdpQW X4ReeMVUVIY= =lJ+R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:46:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA05565 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA12838 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:43:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA12834 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 16:43:07 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr38.interl.net [205.244.161.38]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA26621; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:40:19 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA03066; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:43:02 -0600 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:43:01 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Stewart Boddy cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: alternate character sets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Stewart Boddy wrote: > At Victoria Freenet we're using Pine 3.91 with Pico. > > I would like to know if Pine supports any alternate character sets suich > as Cryllic (sp?) or Korean, Chinese, or Japanese character sets. If Pine > does support some other character sets what additional software is needed > and does that software have to be provided on the server or on the user's > machine? I don't know about 3.91, I'm using 3.95, but the setting is "character-set" and it's toward the end of the setup|config menu. Leaving it blank uses US-ASCII. Check the help (hit ? on that setting) for more info about which character sets it supports. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMpjrjCGB07hAGnFhAQH63AP+MIjbrY1mETjbIzjF4MEUmEbSwOW1qClf DTzo6fR0tWrIwqHuJ59CwoEF6FT2BM7fE08gU7P0w6/eDdnFczvtyJmOaP9l1ykX EJyHzfcG2FIBlMMOQc+m3+CW7VsP2dnomX3TCkLeX0TUWoguF+gNNCXVDhI7TeCU BOg82Yx2vEU= =JEXj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:36:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA07806 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA13525 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:32:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rohan.sdsu.edu (rohan.sdsu.edu [130.191.143.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA13521 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:32:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (vanzoest@localhost) by rohan.sdsu.edu (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01796 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:32:01 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: rohan.sdsu.edu: vanzoest owned process doing -bs Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:31:52 -0800 (PST) From: Sander van Zoest To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Multiple Customized-Hdrs: Escape Char. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I was wondering if there is an escape character I can use to escape the ',' that seperates different customizable headers in PINE 3.95? I have an header I would like to add which contains ','s but the header gets treated as seperate headers. something like '\,' would be nice =)' Does such a character exist? Other than that.. Great Mailer. -- Sander -------------------- SAN - DIEGO - STATE - UNIVERSITY -------------------- Sander van Zoest Need Website? www.wwmatrix.com Need CGI-FAQ? rohan.sdsu.edu/acm/cgi-faq/ Need Server? www.ipinc.com ------ Computer Science - Web Guru - ACM - Graphics - CP believer -------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:45:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA07140 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA15937 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:40:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA15933 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:40:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRsny-00038bC; Sun, 24 Nov 96 20:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sander van Zoest Subject: Multiple Customized-Hdrs: Escape Char. Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:31:52 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I was wondering if there is an escape character I can use to escape the ',' that seperates different customizable headers in PINE 3.95? I have an header I would like to add which contains ','s but the header gets treated as seperate headers. something like '\,' would be nice =)' Does such a character exist? Other than that.. Great Mailer. -- Sander -------------------- SAN - DIEGO - STATE - UNIVERSITY -------------------- Sander van Zoest Need Website? www.wwmatrix.com Need CGI-FAQ? rohan.sdsu.edu/acm/cgi-faq/ Need Server? www.ipinc.com ------ Computer Science - Web Guru - ACM - Graphics - CP believer -------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:04:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA07710 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA13926 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:00:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA13922 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:00:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRt7p-00038ZC; Sun, 24 Nov 96 20:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Procmail and Pine Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:39:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <56gt19$k1b@byatt.alaska.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <56gt19$k1b@byatt.alaska.net> On 15 Nov 1996, Brian N Myers wrote: > Using Pine 3.93 (with procmail) [...] Your question is really about procmail, not about Pine, so I would suggest fielding it to the procmail mailing list, not the Pine newsgroup. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:36:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA08683 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA15335 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:32:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA15331 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:32:54 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA03223 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:31:47 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10756; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:33:34 +0300 (MOW) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:33:32 +0300 (MOST) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list cc: Stewart Boddy , Jason Englander Subject: Re: alternate character sets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Jason Englander wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Stewart Boddy wrote: > > > I would like to know if Pine supports any alternate character sets suich > > as Cryllic (sp?) or Korean, Chinese, or Japanese character sets. If Pine > > does support some other character sets what additional software is needed > > and does that software have to be provided on the server or on the user's > > machine? > > I don't know about 3.91, I'm using 3.95, but the setting is "character-set" > and it's toward the end of the setup|config menu. Leaving it blank uses > US-ASCII. Check the help (hit ? on that setting) for more info about which > character sets it supports. > I am not shure about the original poster's intent, but setting "character-set" is definitely *not* what I call "other character set support". To proper support other character sets, Pine should: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:49:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA05691 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA17624 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:45:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bkumar.hss.hns.com (bkumar.hss.hns.com [139.85.241.90]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA17620 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:45:48 -0800 Received: from bkumar (bkumar@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bkumar.hss.hns.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA01189; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:38:36 GMT Message-ID: <32998539.499512B3@hss.hns.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:38:33 +0000 From: Bharath Kumar Organization: Hughes Software Systems, New Delhi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.59 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: want to view the INBOX directly X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00165.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I started using pine 3.95 version only today and I have a problem with that. When I activate the pine program I want to view the messages of INBOX directly. I'm unable to do that. It is going to the main menu directly. Can we read the messages of the INBOX directly after invoking pine ?? Can someone help me... Cheers, Bharath Kumar. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:05:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA09165 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:05:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA17777 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:00:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bkumar.hss.hns.com (bkumar.hss.hns.com [139.85.241.90]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA17773 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:00:20 -0800 Received: from bkumar (bkumar@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bkumar.hss.hns.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA01197; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:53:08 GMT Message-ID: <329988A3.704A2E3A@hss.hns.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:53:07 +0000 From: Bharath Kumar Organization: Hughes Software Systems, New Delhi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.59 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: automatic reply X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00423.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a query. Suppose I am out-of-station I would like to send a reply to all the senders the information that I'm out. So, can we send a message whenever we receive one using Pine. Thanx, Bharath Kumar. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:45:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA09309 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA16136 for pine-info-out; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:39:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA16132 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:39:29 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr22.interl.net [205.244.161.22]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA02796; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:36:41 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA00250; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:39:23 -0600 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:39:22 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Andrej Borsenkow cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: alternate character sets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > I am not shure about the original poster's intent, but setting > "character-set" is definitely *not* what I call "other character set > support". To proper support other character sets, Pine should: > > I agree 100%. ;) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMplMpCGB07hAGnFhAQF02gP+ODTQmvPqkcJPEL78cIsi076H3W4ujQ0M rzWTdNNZlqiaXOF1KFTGzTrGFoqAuXoGy1IN7d2HhetSq8fw4iIrOvNHE8BSFYWg uD7jJNM9WyOZ2djZGAt4yVRrdfa+WvHNdo9GQPgIHev9PgbPFm4u1ybtuuzJVhlv ry+N/QoK6XY= =tZhs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:27:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA09633 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA17448 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:21:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA17442 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:21:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRxC5-00038ZC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 01:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: bug: tenex folders & folder indices Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:25:18 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5756te$47e@sobolev.rhein.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: <5756te$47e@sobolev.rhein.de> Please be assured that this problem -- if it's really happening -- is in no way caused by tenex format. Sorting is done entirely within the Pine main program and the lower-level tenex code has nothing to do with it. The interface between tenex and the main program is identical to the interface between standard UNIX format and the main program; and at this level there is no such thing as "sorting". I have heard rumors of sorting problems, but since it's in another programmer's area I don't know the details. Please report as many details of the problem as you can to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. On 22 Nov 1996, Thomas Roessler wrote: > In one of the discussions here, Pine development people suggested to > use the tenex format for big incoming mail folders. To check things > out, I created a ~/mail.txt file; pine immediately started to make it > a tenex format incoming folder. >=20 > Things seemed to work fine - but there is one problem: I have my > messages sorted by the date they were *sent*. Now, pine doesn't seem > to keep incoming folder's index display in sync with the messages, so > if I try to display message A, I am presented with message B, while > message A will show up one or more times at different points of the > folder index, with still other messages hiding behind it. >=20 > I'd consider this a serious problem, since I'm almost certain that > I've been deleting mails I didn't want to delete due to this. I've > returned to the traditional unix-style folder whose handling doesn't > seem to have this =BB=E6eature. -- Mark --=09Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:50:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA08582 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA19837 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:44:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA19833 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:44:46 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id KAA26881; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:44:38 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA24363; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:42:45 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:55:46 +0100 (MET) To: Bharath Kumar cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: want to view the INBOX directly In-Reply-To: <32998539.499512B3@hss.hns.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Bharath Kumar wrote: -> Hi, -> -> I started using pine 3.95 version only today and I have a problem with that. -> When I activate the pine program I want to view the messages of INBOX directly. I'm unable to -> do that. It is going to the main menu directly. -> -> Can we read the messages of the INBOX directly after invoking pine ?? Can someone help me... -> -> Cheers, -> Bharath Kumar. -> Go to the setup-menu and read the help-page for "initial-keystroke-list". Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:20:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA10010 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA20148 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:12:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA20144 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:12:21 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:11:57 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA29082; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:11:59 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:11:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Harry Levinson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Sudden" loss of rimap capability In-Reply-To: <329325ED.7C6F@ll.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Ummm... I'm a little confused by your message as you appear first to say that pre-authenticated IMAP connections are failing, and then in your list of three things you tried said that it (1) worked. Anyway here's a few things for you to check out and try: On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Harry Levinson wrote: > Hi all, > > I solaris 2.5.1 running on both my workstation and the mail server. > IMAP used to work so that I did not have to login again (Pre-Auth?). > Now all of a sudden, this does not work and I get the errormessage > > [Can't connect to tau,143: Connection refused] Note: When "143" is mentioned this is referring to the default (*NOT* pre-authenticated) IMAP connection. This corresponds with you saying that telnet-ing to port 143 fails, below. > There are two other workstations that still work fine. I tried: > 1. rsh to server and exec /etc/rimapd: OK > 2. telnet to server at 143: FAIL > 3. telnet to server: OK > > What could have changed, or more importantly what should I try next. > > harry > > tau% grep imap /etc/services > imap 143/tcp > > tau% grep imap /etc/inetd.conf > rimap stream tcp nowait root /etc/rimapd rimapd Here's one problem, that is blocking your connection when telnet-ing to port 143... The keyword (the first word on the line) must be the same in the entries in the two files so as to provide the "link" between them. In particular you have "imap" in /etc/services and "rimap" in /etc/inetd.conf as the first word on each line. Change the latter to be "imap" (it has nothing at all to do with the pre-authenticated IMAP stuff: /etc/rimapd). Then either reload the inetd server by sending it the appropriate signal, or reboot your machine. > strata% rsh tau exec /etc/rimapd > TERM: Undefined variable. > * PREAUTH tau IMAP2bis Service 7.8(92) at Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:30:11 > -0500 (EST) And the "TERM: Undefined variable." is quite likely to be causing problems with pre-authenticated connections. The "* PREAUTH ..." line should be the very first thing you see then you try rsh'ing to the server and executing /etc/rimapd. This will be coming from either your own or the systemwide shell startup file (eg, for csh either /etc/cshrc or your own ~/.login or ~/.cshrc files). Some commands can't be meaningfully given in a plain "rsh server command" environment, and should be executed only after performing some sort of test (eg, testing if TERM is set perhaps in this case, or if the prompt variable is set (signifying an interactive session)). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:35:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA00998 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:35:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA20349 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:31:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA20345 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:31:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vRyGj-00038ZC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 02:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae986@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Mavis Spence) Subject: Lost commands Date: 25 Nov 1996 01:58:30 GMT Message-ID: <57aug6$81a@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> I seem to have lost the commands at the bottom of the messages in the newsgroups, can anyone help me to correct this problem. Thanks Mavis. -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:35:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA10115 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA18893 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:31:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA18888 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:31:01 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id MAA18141; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:30:53 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id MAA25946; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:29:00 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:54:10 +0100 (MET) To: Chenyang Xu cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: [Help?] pine lock not on FAQ In-Reply-To: <3297A5BE.41C6@jhu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Chenyang Xu wrote: -> Hi, there, -> -> I had a problem with pine which gives me the following message when -> running, -> -> "can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly". -> -> Now I can't delete mails from my mailbox. However I can still -> use the "mail" program to delete my incoming mail. -> -> I searched on the FAQ of the pine but can't locate the answer. -> -> Any suggestions? -> -> Thanks, -> -> -- -> Chenyang Xu -> -> \\|// -> (o o) -> --------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------------------------- -> (o) 410-516-6819 | Fax:410-516-5566 -> chenyang@jhu.edu | http://iacl.ece.jhu.edu/~chenyang -> _________________________________________________________ -> / Image Analysis and Communication Lab / -> / Department of the Electric and Computer Engineering / -> / The Johns Hopkins University / -> / Baltimore, MD 21218 / -> ======================================================================= -> Probably you have to change the permission of the directory where INBOXes are stored (system-dependent: e.g. directory /var/mail, permission= 1777, user=root, group=mail) Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:36:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA11091 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA20978 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:31:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA20969 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:31:27 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id MAA18161; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:30:55 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id MAA25949; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:29:02 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:18:05 +0100 (MET) To: Bruce Weaver cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Untitled In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Bruce Weaver wrote: -> On 20 Nov 1996, Xu Fan wrote: -> -> > Dear sir: -> > I want to ask a question: How to send a math file by e-mail? -> > Your help will be important to me and be appreciated. -> > Best Regards, -> > Yours sincerely, -> > Xu Fan -> -> I'm not sure what you mean by a "math file". However, if you -> mean that it is something other than simple text, I would suggest using -> uuencode. If you had a file called "math" in your unix homedirectory, -> you could proceed as follows: -> -> 1. At the unix prompt, type: uuencode math math > math.uu -> -> This will yield a new file called math.uu, which is a uuencoded version -> of your original file. The second "math" in the command line just -> indicates that when math.uu is uudecoded by the recipient, the decoded -> file will be called "math". The "> math.uu" is needed to direct the -> output to the file math.uu. Without this, the output will just scroll by -> on the screen. -> -> 2. A uuencoded file is ascii text, and so can be read into an e-mail -> message with CTRL-R. Alternatively, you can send it as an attachment -> (CTRL-J). -> -> 3. The recipient will have to either (E)xport the message or (S)ave the -> attachment to his/her unix homedirectory. Then after quitting PINE, they -> need to type: uudecode math.uu -> -> I hope this answers your question. -> -> Cheers, -> Bruce Weaver -> UWB, Psychology -> pss091@bangor.ac.uk -> If you and the recipient are using Pine or Netscape or any other MUA which is MIME-compatible attach your file without uu-encoding as "attachment" (see the header while creating your mail). Then the recipient's MUA decodes the attached file to the original. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:40:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA09786 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA22546 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:31:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA22542 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:31:00 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.f) via EUnet id OAA11400; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:30:50 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id OAA27741; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:28:57 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:37:49 +0100 (MET) To: Mike Brudenell cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: "Sudden" loss of rimap capability In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: -> Ummm... I'm a little confused by your message as you appear first to say -> that pre-authenticated IMAP connections are failing, and then in your list -> of three things you tried said that it (1) worked. -> -> Anyway here's a few things for you to check out and try: -> -> On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Harry Levinson wrote: -> -> > Hi all, -> > -> > I solaris 2.5.1 running on both my workstation and the mail server. -> > IMAP used to work so that I did not have to login again (Pre-Auth?). -> > Now all of a sudden, this does not work and I get the errormessage -> > -> > [Can't connect to tau,143: Connection refused] -> -> Note: When "143" is mentioned this is referring to the default (*NOT* -> pre-authenticated) IMAP connection. This corresponds with you saying that -> telnet-ing to port 143 fails, below. -> -> > There are two other workstations that still work fine. I tried: -> > 1. rsh to server and exec /etc/rimapd: OK -> > 2. telnet to server at 143: FAIL -> > 3. telnet to server: OK -> > -> > What could have changed, or more importantly what should I try next. -> > -> > harry -> > -> > tau% grep imap /etc/services -> > imap 143/tcp -> > -> > tau% grep imap /etc/inetd.conf -> > rimap stream tcp nowait root /etc/rimapd rimapd -> -> Here's one problem, that is blocking your connection when telnet-ing to -> port 143... The keyword (the first word on the line) must be the same in -> the entries in the two files so as to provide the "link" between them. -> -> In particular you have "imap" in /etc/services and "rimap" in -> /etc/inetd.conf as the first word on each line. Change the latter to be -> "imap" (it has nothing at all to do with the pre-authenticated IMAP stuff: -> /etc/rimapd). -> -> Then either reload the inetd server by sending it the appropriate signal, -> or reboot your machine. -> -> > strata% rsh tau exec /etc/rimapd -> > TERM: Undefined variable. -> > * PREAUTH tau IMAP2bis Service 7.8(92) at Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:30:11 -> > -0500 (EST) -> -> And the "TERM: Undefined variable." is quite likely to be causing problems -> with pre-authenticated connections. The "* PREAUTH ..." line should be -> the very first thing you see then you try rsh'ing to the server and -> executing /etc/rimapd. -> -> This will be coming from either your own or the systemwide shell startup -> file (eg, for csh either /etc/cshrc or your own ~/.login or ~/.cshrc -> files). -> -> Some commands can't be meaningfully given in a plain "rsh server command" -> environment, and should be executed only after performing some sort of -> test (eg, testing if TERM is set perhaps in this case, or if the prompt -> variable is set (signifying an interactive session)). -> -> Cheers, -> -> -- -> Mike Brudenell -> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -> The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK -> Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ -> I have the following configuration (but with Solaris 2.4): 1) in /etc/services: imap2 143/tcp 2) in /etc/inetd.conf: imap2 stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/in.imapd in.imapd 3) the symbolic link: /etc/rimapd -> /usr/sbin/in.imapd ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:07:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA12221 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA20769 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:02:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA20765 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:02:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vS1bU-00038ZC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 06:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwb19@nfi.com (Jim Boynton) Subject: Re: Incoming Message Folders Date: 21 Nov 1996 20:25:27 GMT Message-ID: <572drn$kgs@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> References: Greg L Stassi (gls03@gnofn.org) wrote: > I recently created a folder in the Incoming Message Folders group. I did > not know that there were different groupings to create folders in and > simply wanted to add another folder to save mail in. When I try to open > this folder it says "no such folder". When I try deleting it it says > "deleted" and the problem appears to be solved. However the next time I > access Pine there it is. I can't get rid of it! Not really a major > problem but can anyone help? I just had the same problem. Go into your .pinerc (in your $HOME directory) and search for the folder name you just created. Just delete the folder name. Seems to me I got the name of the folder twice, once in quotes and once not. You have to delete them both (I think one was the 'nickname' I gave it). Hope this is as simple for you as it was for me (after much scratching of head). I'm *still* trying to figure out how to use 'filter' in order to make use of those folders. My ISP doesn't have procmail available, and I'm not sure how to compile so... I'm so glad I have extra time. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:59:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA12682 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA23567 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:54:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA23554 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:53:07 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:32:31 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id OAA27847; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:32:36 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:32:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Bharath Kumar cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: want to view the INBOX directly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" An even easier way to go straight into the INBOX index screen is to start Pine with the "-i" command line option: pine -i Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Bharath Kumar wrote: > > -> Hi, > -> > -> I started using pine 3.95 version only today and I have a problem with that. > -> When I activate the pine program I want to view the messages of INBOX directly. I'm unable to > -> do that. It is going to the main menu directly. > -> > -> Can we read the messages of the INBOX directly after invoking pine ?? Can someone help me... > -> > -> Cheers, > -> Bharath Kumar. > -> > Go to the setup-menu and read the help-page for "initial-keystroke-list". > > Rudolf > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:34:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA12825 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA24075 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:27:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from iron.ece.jhu.edu (iron.ece.jhu.edu [128.220.14.190]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA24071 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:27:39 -0800 Received: by iron.ece.jhu.edu; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:27:33 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:27:33 -0500 (EST) From: Chenyang Xu To: Rudolf Kompf cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: [Help?] pine lock not on FAQ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Chenyang Xu wrote: > > -> Hi, there, > -> > -> I had a problem with pine which gives me the following message when > -> running, > -> > -> "can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly". > -> > -> Now I can't delete mails from my mailbox. However I can still > -> use the "mail" program to delete my incoming mail. > -> > -> I searched on the FAQ of the pine but can't locate the answer. > -> > -> Any suggestions? > -> > -> Thanks, > Probably you have to change the permission of the directory where INBOXes > are stored (system-dependent: e.g. directory /var/mail, permission= 1777, > user=root, group=mail) > > Rudolf > Thanks a lot, Rudolf, I have solved the problem by chance. It's similar to what you expected. I found out the /tmp directory is no longer writable by the users, I changed it and it solve the problem. Best regards, --- Chenyang From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:22:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA15310 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA26710 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:12:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA26704 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:12:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vS4Z1-00038ZC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 09:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Lost commands Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:02:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <57aug6$81a@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <57aug6$81a@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> On 25 Nov 1996, Mavis Spence wrote: > I seem to have lost the commands at the bottom of the messages in the > newsgroups, can anyone help me to correct this problem. Even though you seem to have posted using tin, if you are referring to a recent version of Pine, check your configuration to see if you have "disable-keymenu" (going from memory) toggled on. If it is, the commands will not appear at the bottom of the screen unless you press ? or ^G as the case may be. Toggle it off if you want the commands to appears all the time. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:27:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA15485 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA24647 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:22:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA24641 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:22:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vS4g4-00038bC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 09:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jie.yuan@uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: PGP & PINE...? Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:55:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5720rl$i0d@sugar.h.belgacom.be> In article <5720rl$i0d@sugar.h.belgacom.be>, gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be (Benjamin Gonay) wrote: > Hello all, > > I've opened a Linux server with of course Pine as mail reader. > I'm asking me if there is a mean to use the PGP encode programm with > Pine. If yes, how ?, and with wich program, and where to find it...? > I'm new to this matter (pgp)... Or is there any FAQ on PGP....? There are at least three well known methods. You can find one in my web page at this URL: http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html This is the least complicated way, IMHO. Others are more complicated and more sophisticated. Enough said! Cheers! Jie -- -- Jie Yuan - Pharmacology & C.B. - U. of Cincinnati -- == POBox 670575,Cin.,OH 45267-0575 = jie.yuan@uc.edu == == www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan = using NewsWatcher == == PGP key: finger yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:32:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA15160 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA27046 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:22:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA27042 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:22:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vS4g4-00038ZC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 09:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Customizing header Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:45:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1996Nov22.174358.151732@forest> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Nov22.174358.151732@forest> On 22 Nov 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > When I looked at the help text for customized headers it said something > about Reply-To:. I know what that is but it also said you can have a > header Approved:. what is the point of this header? One possible use would be if you are a moderator of a moderated newsgroup and have to approve articles before posting them. Some moderated groups have multiple moderators, and people like to know who approved which messages. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:14:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA00489 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:14:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA25921 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:07:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA25909 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:07:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vS5OH-00038ZC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 10:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ebromber@forest.drew.edu Subject: Changing reply address Message-ID: <1996Nov22.130703.151713@forest> Date: 22 Nov 96 13:07:03 EST I am using pine 3.91 for VMS. Is there anyway I can configure it so that when people reply to my messages they are not sent back to the account from which i sent them? If so how? thanks in advance ebromber@drew.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:35:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA13304 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA26517 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:29:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nermal.santarosa.edu (nermal.santarosa.edu [198.189.21.12]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA26511 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:29:44 -0800 Received: (from atran@localhost) by nermal.santarosa.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA09498; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:27:15 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 96 11:27:15 -0800 (PST) From: Athena Tran Subject: changing password To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear office: I would like to change password on my Nermal e-mail account through Pine because I suspect that somebody is prying into my account. I am not able to obtain help from the local staff, so would you please e-mail me the instruction or refer me to some other sources to obtain help regarding the above matter, I will really appreciate it. Thank you very much for your assistance. Sincerely, Athena Tran ATRAN@NERMAL.SANTAROSA.EDU From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:21:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA18543 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:21:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA29993 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:17:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA29989 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:17:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vS6V7-00038ZC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 11:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atlka@cent01.oi.pg.gda.pl (Adam Tla/lka) Subject: Re: alternate character sets Date: 25 Nov 1996 19:02:37 GMT Message-ID: References: In my opinion pine should use Unicode characters if terminal supports them. Could you think about multilingual letters ? -- . . Adam Tla/lka mailto:atlka@pg.gda.pl ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ) System & Network Administration Group ~~~~~~ - Computer Center, Technical University of Gdansk, Poland From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:51:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA16467 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:51:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA28746 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:45:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from www.orgear.com (www.orgear.com [206.63.22.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA28742 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:45:45 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by www.orgear.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) id LAA19717 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:45:33 -0800 Received: from localhost by aviion.orgear.com (8.6.13/200.17.1.3) id LAA24915; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:38:35 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:38:35 -0800 (PST) From: Josh McMurdie X-Sender: josh@aviion To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help on pruning and deleting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My problem revolves around the sent-mail folder. Often times, a user's sent-mail folder becomes rather large because no one regularly deletes sent-mail. I know that Pine prompts for the user to delete sent-mail messages older than a month but very few of our users opt for this because they are afraid they will lose ALL of their messages. I've discovered how to automatically purge sent-mail messages but that is a little extreme in our situation. My question is: is there any way to automatically delete only the sent-mail messages that are older than one month? Thank you very much for your time! Josh McMurdie (josh@orgear.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:26:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA20499 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA01610 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:23:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA01606 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:23:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vS8R0-00038gC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 13:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eudora@psg.com, Erlang@psg.com, Thingy@psg.com, on@psg.com, dark@psg.com, rye@psg.com Subject: Re: screen is black w. white letters Date: 25 Nov 1996 15:08:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: annew@madison.main.nc.us (Anne Whitefield) writes: >I prefer a white screen with black letters. How can I effect this change? Well, it looks like you're using Pine from a Linux box, so you can use this shell command if you're at the console: setterm -inversescreen on Most remote terminals won't understand what to do with that, but you can try it anyway. Other than that, it depends on the settings that might be in the terminal or emulator you're using to log in. HTH -- Troll Patrol, Interim Signal Officer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:19:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA17724 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA02842 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:15:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spidergram.ccs.unr.edu (spidergram.comnet.unr.edu [134.197.75.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA02838 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:15:09 -0800 Received: from equinox.unr.edu by spidergram.ccs.unr.edu (8.8.3/1.34) id WAA14705; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:15:08 GMT Received: by equinox.unr.edu (8.8.3/1.34) id WAA11987; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:15:07 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:15:07 GMT From: malc@unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock) Message-Id: <199611252215.WAA11987@equinox.unr.edu> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pilot as full-fledged Menu system? Are there any plans to turn Pilot into a more full-featured Unix-based menu system? Pilot is a fine file tree browser and program-runner, but the capability of adding global and user-configurable menus would be a boon. In our environment, at least, not all users have graphical network access, but would nonetheless like to see something more friendly upon login than a Unix prompt (I speak as a great fan of the Unix prompt, but not all of our users share my enthusiasm.) Malcolm -- Malcolm L. Carlock UNR Unix Administration and Support --Email: malc@unr.edu --WWW: http://unr.edu/homepage/malc --Voice: 702-784-4637 --Fax: 702-784-4050 --USMail: University of Nevada, Reno / Mailstop 180 / Reno / NV / 89557 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:35:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA23865 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA03357 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:31:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spidergram.ccs.unr.edu (spidergram.comnet.unr.edu [134.197.75.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA03350 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:31:41 -0800 Received: from equinox.unr.edu by spidergram.ccs.unr.edu (8.8.3/1.34) id WAA15029; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:31:40 GMT Received: by equinox.unr.edu (8.8.3/1.34) id WAA14251; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:31:39 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:31:39 GMT From: malc@unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock) Message-Id: <199611252231.WAA14251@equinox.unr.edu> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE procmail interface? I think that many of us have either wondered, or had users ask us, "how can I set up mail filtering from PINE?" As most of us know, this is a function of separate filtering software, of which PROCMAIL is probably the best example. However, I suspect that most PINE users (particularly PC-PINE users who don't normally log into Unix) are not up to creating and maintaining .procmailrc files for themselves. Has the PINE project considered adding a procmail editing interface to PINE? (Not that they don't already have a full plate...) I'd love to be able to tell folks they can create filtering themselves via PINE. Eudora Pro does this, though of course at the local PC, whither their mail is slurped via the (yech) POP protocol. Alternatively, does anyone know of any menu- or GUI-based interfaces to procmail (other than the Project project at Cal Poly?) I can see creating a WWW-based interface for this, but it would require an HTTP process on the server where procmail runs. I can also see the potential for some serious security holes if such a thing were not written carefully. If our users could set up a .procmailrc on the server from within PINE, it would be most useful. I'd be willing to volunteer for some work on this, if the PINE Project were interested. Malcolm -- Malcolm L. Carlock UNR Unix Administration and Support --Email: malc@unr.edu --WWW: http://unr.edu/homepage/malc --Voice: 702-784-4637 --Fax: 702-784-4050 --USMail: University of Nevada, Reno / Mailstop 180 / Reno / NV / 89557 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:58:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA26405 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA09308 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:53:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA09303 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:53:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSBjJ-00038fC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 16:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sing Yeong Kong Subject: newsgroups Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:13:54 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you configure pine to work with more than 1 news collections? I've managed to put 2 news collections in my setup (under the section on news collections) but when I subscribe to a newsgroup, it appears on both collections. if I try to delete from 1 collection, it becomes removed from both. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:36:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA21702 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA08012 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:33:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA08008 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:33:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSCLx-00038fC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 17:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: how to customise reply follow-up? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:16:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <579p14$3bo@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Nov 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote (excerpt): > I agree completely..But the thing is , the almost universal default > of '>' as the reply-indent-string also does not lend itself > to clarity when you are replying to a post that is already > a nth level followup post itself. [...] > Hmm.. certainly, a annoying problem.. hope some wise folks > out there come up with a solution Well, one step toward a solution is already available. It's call "self discipline when replying." I have noticed that many people quote far too much when they reply or followup than is really necessary to get their point across. Yes, some context is often necessary and is sometimes more conveniently quoted than paraphrased or summarized, but I have rarely seen a post with qotations 43 levels deep that was really worth the effort it took to figure it out, even when people used different quotation strings. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:58:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA27800 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA10838 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:53:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA10834 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:53:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSChR-00038fC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 17:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Keeping messages below 75 columns, please. Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:29:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32998539.499512B3@hss.hns.com> <57c6bj$7ug@news1.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Michael wrote (excerpts): > This tends to make people lazy. > But instead to follow the guideline that most people follow and that is > don't let the outgoing message exceed 75 columns in the first place. > Make sure Pine knows the maximum width is 75 columns by going into the > configuration and setting that value (composer-wrap-column). However, Pine allows one to use some other editor than the Pine built-in composer, a VERY valuable feature (the built-in composer drives me nuts), so your suggestion would have no applicability to people who use other editors (although most _decent_ editors allow one to set a line width by default, which accomplishes the same thing). > And while I'm on the soap box, people need to use proportional fonts too. Uh, why, please should people use proportional fonts? My observation has been that people who use proportional fonts often tend to violate the very principle of maximum line width you were referring to above. And proportional fonts are not practical or even feasible for a lot of people when they are composing news and/or mail. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:52:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA26749 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA09641 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:48:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA09634 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:48:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSDWA-00038fC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 18:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdashiel@eagle1.eaglenet.com (Jude T. DaShiell) Subject: two feature requests Message-ID: <328fc02a.0@eagle3.eaglenet.com> Date: 18 Nov 96 01:47:22 GMT For a future version of pine, would like to see the control-z feature modified so when it's executed it doesn't clear the screen. Not all of us have screen and shell out to run a web browser, would be nice to have the urrl still on the screen as we're typing it in for reference. Second request, trash the your display is set for us ascii the message is in iso 8059 some characters may be displayed incorrectly message. That's a given. Why not put an option in for this which would read auto, and when invoked if the software on a site would allow iso 8059 display to happen simply switch to iso 8059 display. You might have a country selection in configuration so users could identify where pine was being used at and thereby set a default display to switch back to when message display was over. -- jude From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:01:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA28949 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA11936 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:53:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA11932 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:53:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSDdD-00038gC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 18:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Highlighted Signature Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:22:55 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <848953882.30197@dejanews.com> On Mon, 25 Nov 1996 web3943@charweb.org wrote on comp.mail.pine: > I received a message and the signature was green background and > white text. It has the html and but when I tried > this code on my sig file it didn't work. > How can I create a highlighted signature? Please do not do this. It may look catchy, but it can cause SERIOUS problems for some people. Whether or not it works depends totally on the hardware and software the recipient has. You have no control over this. The technique (usually, at least) depends on imbedded, non-standard control characters which can wreak havoc on some recipients' terminals and personal computers. It's a very bad idea. Please avoid picking up bad habits. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:42:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA29359 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA10432 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:38:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA10426 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:38:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSEKs-00038fC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 19:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfrissen Subject: ooops Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:25:34 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, it seems I have been jumping to conclusions... I forgot the bloody /pop3 after pop3.worldaccess.nl ... Now it works ... sorry for the mail then :) --------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: $m Date: $d Time: $t "Could crop circles be the work of a cereal killer??" ----------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:22:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA30118 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA14115 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:19:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA14111 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:19:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSFrC-00038fC; Mon, 25 Nov 96 21:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: batchman@shell.liberty.com (Shoeless in San Jose ) Subject: Re: [Help?] pine lock not on FAQ Date: 26 Nov 1996 05:49:36 GMT Message-ID: <57e0dg$6kl@news.liberty.com> References: <3297A5BE.41C6@jhu.edu> I get this when I shell out of Pine and start a new copy. The new copy will only run in 'Read-Only' mode. Try quitting out of Pine and typing fg at the prompt. If that doesn't work, log out and try again. Greg batchman@liberty.com Chenyang Xu (chenyang@jhu.edu) wrote: : Hi, there, : I had a problem with pine which gives me the following message when : running, : "can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly". : Now I can't delete mails from my mailbox. However I can still : use the "mail" program to delete my incoming mail. : I searched on the FAQ of the pine but can't locate the answer. : Any suggestions? : Thanks, : : -- : Chenyang Xu : \\|// : (o o) : --------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------------------------- : (o) 410-516-6819 | Fax:410-516-5566 : chenyang@jhu.edu | http://iacl.ece.jhu.edu/~chenyang : _________________________________________________________ : / Image Analysis and Communication Lab / : / Department of the Electric and Computer Engineering / : / The Johns Hopkins University / : / Baltimore, MD 21218 / : ======================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:55:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA30901 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA12690 for pine-info-out; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:52:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA12684 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:52:27 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA02683; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:21:52 +0530 (IST) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:21:51 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND cc: Harry Levinson , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: general In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND wrote: > i have been told by my local service provider that i can access newsgroups > thru pine. can any body please eloborate how do i go about. additionally, > are there any resource guides also available on the net? > At the main menu of pine, type 's' for setup and then 'c' for config. In the list of options there you will come across an option called 'nntp server..'. There you add 'news.vsnl.net.in' To access the newsgroups, press 'l' for list of folders. Happy newsgrouping, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:34:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA32119 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA14828 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:26:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eng.usm.my (eng.usm.my [161.142.73.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA14816 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:26:04 -0800 Received: from cangkat.eng.usm.my by eeserver.eng.usm.my (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA04060; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:23:11 +0800 Received: from localhost by cangkat.eng.usm.my (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA00788; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:24:53 +0800 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:24:52 +0800 (SGT) From: `~`~`eqin`~`~` X-Sender: ekyn@cangkat To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello.. i have a question to ask... i had a picture sent through email attachment but i cancel sending the email...so, the email become a dead.letter. how am i suppose to get the picture back? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:36:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA27288 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA15635 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:29:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA15631 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:29:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSJow-00038fC; Tue, 26 Nov 96 01:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik) Subject: Re: ALERT: Solaris 2.5.1 locks up on TCP connections in Pine 3.9x Date: 26 Nov 1996 10:24:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <56uhi1$nj0$1@shade.twinsun.com> Mark Crispin writes: >2) The 0 byte read serves a purpose. On all systems except Solaris, it > enables Pine to report a TCP/IP connection failure after doing a > blocking select(). Otherwise, a failure to open the connection will > not be detected until Pine tries to read data from the connection, and > it will report the wrong message. It still is bad programming; the proper way to do a non-blocking connect is to retry the connect you eitehr get an already connected error or a timeout. >Because of this Solaris operating system bug, we are using a different >technique in Pine 4.00. But it is a bug in Solaris 2.x, we can agree on that. I'm not sure, but wouldn't be entirely suprised if POSIX standards allowed a read of 0 to return 0 always and immediately on any valid fd. Casper -- Casper Dik - Sun Microsystems - via my guest account at the University of Amsterdam. My work e-mail address is: Casper.Dik@Holland.Sun.COM Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may be fiction rather than truth. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:59:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA02225 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA21446 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:55:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA21442 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:55:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSOuc-00038BC; Tue, 26 Nov 96 06:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: systhvu@sp05.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Studenten Administratie ) Subject: ipop3d NOT allowing 'Leave mail on server' Date: 26 Nov 1996 08:53:32 GMT Message-ID: <57eb6c$3q7@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be> Hello, I wonder if it is possible to compile ipop3d (we use 3-6), so that it is not possible for Eudora users to set 'Leave mail on server'. If too much of our Eudora users do this, our 2G /var/spool/mail will get full. We use at another place another pop server which does not allow this, but this pop server has problems with locked mailboxes, so I like to use the POP server of the imap distribution because most of our users use Pine. Thanks, -Herman- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:28:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA02934 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA21877 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:23:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA21873 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:23:30 -0800 Received: from homer27.u.washington.edu (homer27.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.7]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA12726 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:23:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (trangene@localhost) by homer27.u.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.11) with SMTP id HAA46834 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:23:28 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:23:28 -0800 (PST) From: "D. Levine" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: email expunging Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help! Since changing my password, I cannot expunge messages from my INBOX. Any suggestions? Please email, or page me (pager 626-1309). Thanks, Douglas S. Levine, MD From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:08:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA03648 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:08:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA20746 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:02:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA20742 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:02:26 -0800 Received: from homer16.u.washington.edu (homer16.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.17]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA19394 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:02:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (trangene@localhost) by homer16.u.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.11) with SMTP id IAA83754 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:02:24 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:02:24 -0800 (PST) From: "D. Levine" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: email expunging (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please ignore my inital message requesting Help! (below). I was able to solve the problem and am now marveling at my ignorance! Thanks anyway. Douglas S. Levine, MD ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:23:28 -0800 (PST) From: "D. Levine" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: email expunging Help! Since changing my password, I cannot expunge messages from my INBOX. Any suggestions? Please email, or page me (pager 626-1309). Thanks, Douglas S. Levine, MD From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:59:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA06810 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA25429 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:52:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay.sfos.ro (burebista.sfos.ro [193.226.100.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA25410 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:52:32 -0800 Received: from cogaion.sfos.ro (root@cogaion.sfos.ro [193.226.100.8]) by relay.sfos.ro (8.7.4/8.7.6) with ESMTP id UAA28819 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:50:56 +0200 Received: from lmcv.sfos.ro (uucp@localhost) by cogaion.sfos.ro (8.7.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id TAA19340 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:31:30 +0200 Received: by lmcv.sfos.ro id AA02278 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:01:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:01:31 +0200 (EET) From: Rudy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: urgent Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi!My name is Rudy,and I'm from Romania.I want you to send me some infos about using PINE.My address is: bedo@lmcv.sfos.ro THANK YOU & GOOD BYE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:00:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA07053 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA25547 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:56:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA25540 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:56:17 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA21371; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:28:55 +0530 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:28:53 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: "D. Levine" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: slirp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, can i use slirp on my dial in shell connection? any suggestions for the same(relevant websites)? thanks and bye, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:28:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA08092 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA24429 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:16:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dilbert.shawnee.edu ([206.21.94.50]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA24425 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:15:57 -0800 From: blassom@dilbert.shawnee.edu Received: (from blassom@localhost) by dilbert.shawnee.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA01747; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:15:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:15:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199611261815.NAA01747@dilbert.shawnee.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-URL: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.06/msg00319.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.5 X-Personal_name: T. Warfield Subject: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/ we're having a slight problem compiling pine 3.95 = make dumps when it comes across the c-client.a it says that it's being treated as linker script - and has a parse error. it will not build pine, imap or mtest at all... just pico and pilot... any suggestions would be appreciated From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:34:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA06576 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA26383 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:28:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from castles.com (sparc1.castles.com [199.4.103.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA26379 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:28:23 -0800 Received: from kenh (rocklin08.castles.com) by castles.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4/CASTLES) id AA25526; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:24:47 -0800 Message-Id: <329B36E3.4187@sparc1.castles.com> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:28:51 -0800 From: Ken Hamidi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mass mailing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I need to know if there is a sofware which can send multiple (1000's) e-mails and the names do not show at the To: section. Would you please help? Thanks, Ken Hamidi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:36:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA28433 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA24846 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:30:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from champion.iupui.edu (indyunix.iupui.edu [134.68.220.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA24842 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:30:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (nsood@localhost) by champion.iupui.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id NAA23018 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:30:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:30:55 -0500 (EST) From: nitin sood X-Sender: nsood@champion.iupui.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: hi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to transfer my address book from one email account to another account Can anybody help ______________________________________________________________________________ Nitin Sood 810 #B Blake St. Indianapolis IN-46202 e-mail:nsood@indyunix.iupui.edu Ph # 317-630-4767 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:40:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA16729 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA06360 for pine-info-out; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:36:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from elmo.nmc.edu (elmo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.208]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA06350 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:36:09 -0800 Received: from localhost by elmo.nmc.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/17Jul95-0335PM) id AA07593; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:38:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:38:21 -0500 (EST) From: Kristen Denoyer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I am wondering if you can tell me how to talk to people at other places. For instance, I am at Northwestern Michigan College. I would like to be able to talk to my friends at other colleges around the state of Michigan. Is there a certain command that I need to type? I know how to have a "conversation" with people here at NMC, but not elsewhere. Can you help?! Thank you* kristen denoyer denoyek@elmo.nmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:00:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA11072 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA14846 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 01:55:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA14842 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 01:54:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA27633 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:54:57 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:54:57 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer Reply-To: John de Boer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A joke for math connoisseurs! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For John Hench (I deleted your pvt eamil address, but know you read this list) Other: i hope you enjoy this off-topic item. Rgds John de Boer > > > MATH KNOWLEDGE > > > Two mathematicians were having dinner in a restaurant, arguing about > the average mathematical knowledge of the American public. One > mathematician claimed that this average was woefully inadequate, the > other maintained that it was surprisingly high. > > "I'll tell you what," said the cynic, "ask that waitress a simple math > question. If she gets it right, I'll pick up dinner. If not, you do." > He then excused himself to visit the men's room, and the other called > the waitress over. > > "When my friend comes back," he told her, "I'm going to ask you a > question, and I want you to respond `one third x cubed.' There's > twenty bucks in it for you." She agreed. > > The cynic returned from the bathroom and called the waitress over. > "The food was wonderful, thank you," the mathematician started. > "Incidentally, do you know what the integral of x squared is?" > > The waitress looked pensive; almost pained. She looked around the > room, at her feet, made gurgling noises, and finally said, "Um, one > third x cubed?" > > So the cynic paid the check. The waitress wheeled around, walked a few > paces away, looked back at the two men, and muttered under her breath, > "...plus a constant." > > > _________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 06:08:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA25960 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 06:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA18129 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 06:04:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from via1.viagrafix.com (via1.viagrafix.com [206.41.137.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA18125 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 06:04:06 -0800 Received: from ppp011.viagrafix.com ([206.41.137.20]) by via1.viagrafix.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-12723) with SMTP id AAA187 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:05:34 -0600 Received: by ppp011.viagrafix.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBDC39.7B8B6480@ppp011.viagrafix.com>; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:03:32 -0600 Message-ID: <01BBDC39.7B8B6480@ppp011.viagrafix.com> From: brianwebster@viagrafix.com (Brian Webster) To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Subject: BOMBS Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 07:58:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First off, I have this little emial bomber that will send infite # of emails from any server. I use the pentagon usually. so I'm just saying, bombers arent always from the server they send from.......dont worry, i wont bomb you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:00:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA28834 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA21069 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:54:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from beta.loyno.edu (beta.loyno.edu [141.164.1.44]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA21059 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:54:48 -0800 Received: by beta.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/31Oct96-0621AM) id AA04431; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:58:55 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:58:55 -0600 (CST) From: Russell Johnson To: pine Subject: Unwanted Attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello All, We have Pine 3.91 on Dec 3000 osf/1 V2.0. Recently mail was sent with a large zip file attachment It arrived with two extra attachments I looked up the person who had sent it and it had an unknown address It looks like the user had not done this intentionally. Anyone else have this problem of unwanted attachments? Is this a known bug of 3.91? Thanks in advance! RKJ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:47:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA29807 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA22405 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:38:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from washington.patriot.net (washington.patriot.net [206.151.9.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA22401 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:38:03 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by washington.patriot.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id MAA27002; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:38:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:38:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: Skull cc: redhat-list@redhat.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: qpopper, imap3d, and UNIX mbox-format files In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961127113937.007b0cd0@yakko.cs.wmich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Skull wrote: > > I'm not at my machine, so I dont know if RH4 includes this, but does > >anyone know where I can get a good and easy pop3 server? I'm getting a > >static IP and Domain name and would like to have my email delivered right to > >my linux box. > > yes, its in an rpm called imap that comes in redhat 4, or you can find > qpopper... Qpopper does not appear to be in active development any longer. Also, qpopper doesn't properly update inboxes in the event that mail arrives while mail is being served to the POP client. Qpopper is less memory intensive than ipop3d is, but it's not as well supported and doesn't handle real-world situations very well (read: it's buggy). We just recently dealt with qpopper because ipop3d was simply consuming too much memory and was driving our primary server into the ground. We switched to qpopper, which immediately solved our memory and performance problems, but all of a sudden user mailboxes started getting corrupted. We've since increased the memory in our system and have gone back to ipop3d. We've contacted Mark Crispin, author of ipop3d and much of the IMAP suite. Mr. Crispin suggests moving to a mail system that doesn't store messages in the standard UNIX "mbox" format. The mbox format is not designed for modern day mail systems, and can't be manipulated very well. As a result, you encounter programs like qpopper that make invalid assumptions about how mail will be handled, or programs like ipop3d that require extreme amounts of resources in order to work around the problems inherent in the underlying mail system. Mr. Crispin suggests moving to an alternative mail system where messages are stored in a different, more easily manipulated format, to improve performance *and* security, and to reduce (or at least level-out) resource demands. Unfortunately, this would result in incompatabilities between the new mail system and older mail clients, such as "mail", "Mail", and "elm", that don't support other mailbox formats and can't retreive mail via POP or IMAP. The solution in these cases is to offer wrappers that would retreive mail via POP3 or IMAP using "popclient" or "fetchmail", store the mail in an mbox-format file, then invoke the mbox-format-capable client to read the contents of that file. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:40:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA01717 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA27147 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:36:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA27143 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:36:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSqfK-00038VC; Wed, 27 Nov 96 12:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: WINMAIL.DAT Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:28:41 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I noticed that emails from some sources have a file WINMAIL.DAT attached, or uuencoded, included with the mail message. I can view this file with a hex editor and it seems to contain a copy of the message, with various non-ASCII codes between the parts of the message. Those people from whom I tend to get these WINMAIL.DATs are no experts in email, or computers at all, and tend to be surprised when I ask them about the attachment. Does anyone know what is going on on their end? Maybe some Windows mail software trying to send a formatted version of the text along with the ASCII text? Thanks, - Hans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:24:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA03795 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA28855 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:21:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA28851 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:21:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSsKs-00038TC; Wed, 27 Nov 96 14:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: pine & usenet Date: 25 Nov 1996 12:28:09 GMT Message-ID: References: On Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:24:38 GMT, kevin grey wrote: [You wrote ] Can anyone tell me how to use pine for news reading?. [You wrote ] I am running Linux 1.2.8 Slackware 2.3 on a PC, I am useing Cnews and pine [You wrote ] 3.91 . Kevin, R***T****F***M... :-) Seriously, read the online docs in Pine of the FAQ or go to the Pine home page at http:www.cac.washington.edu/pine Hint.. set the nntp-server variable in Setup/config to your NNTP server machine and you should be up and running... --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:24:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA02273 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA00178 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:21:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA00173 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:21:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSsKs-00038BC; Wed, 27 Nov 96 14:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: web3943@charweb.org Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:51:21 -0600 Subject: Highlighted Signature Message-ID: <848953882.30197@dejanews.com> I received a message and the signature was green background and white text. It has the html and but when I tried this code on my sig file it didn't work. How can I create a highlighted signature? Best, Thomas please reply to web3943@charweb.org -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:14:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA07737 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA04462 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:11:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA04458 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:11:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSuxo-00038UC; Wed, 27 Nov 96 17:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Routing received mail? Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 19:59:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, aleph wrote: > Can I somehow route certain received mail into a separate folder? Probably. The exact answer depends on your setup. If you have a WWW browser, browser my home page and follow the link to all the goodies Nancy McGough has available. She has quite a bit of information on mail filtering. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:04:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA08106 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA04048 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:02:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA04042 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:02:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSvjH-00038BC; Wed, 27 Nov 96 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rob Fulwell Subject: Screen (was Re: Pine 4.0) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:36:02 -0800 Message-ID: References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> <571o0o$5p2@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 27 Nov 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > Thanks for interesting suggestions - got me realize it's time to enhance > my working routines. Starting slowly, I am beginning with 'screen', a > unix program allowing you simultaneously to run several programs on > full-screen windows, switching between which is lightning fast. Xterm > next... Let me make a small off-topic comment that Screen is perhaps the single most useful program I have ever seen. I regularly connect from many different types of machines (Xterms, Windows and Mac, and my home machine is a Linux box) and Screen allows me to run a half-dozen of my favorite programs (some on remote computers) from all these platforms and switch instantly between them. The program is very configurable and can even be password protected. The ability to detach from a Screen session and re-attach to all the (still running but sleeping) processes at any time works so well that I will often run the same instance of Pine for weeks at a time, although I may access it from dozens of different computers. I'm also quite thrilled that the combination of Linux/Screen/14.4k modem has enabled my 386 to retain usefulness as an actual computing tool, rather than just a doorstop. -- Rob Fulwell DoD#0718-GS850L ACCUSTAT:0.640 http://weber.u.washington.edu/~miser or keyserver for PGP public key NOTICE: Please see the above web page before sending commercial e-mail From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:56:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA26652 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:56:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA06046 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:52:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA06042 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:52:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSwVv-00038BC; Wed, 27 Nov 96 18:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: [Help?] pine lock not on FAQ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:44:22 -0800 Message-ID: References: <3297A5BE.41C6@jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3297A5BE.41C6@jhu.edu> On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Chenyang Xu wrote: > I had a problem with pine which gives me the following message when > running, > "can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly". Two causes: 1) /tmp does not not permit world write. 2) there is a stuck lock file on /tmp. The fix for (1) is to make sure that /tmp is protected 1777. The fix for (2) is to delete all files on /tmp which have protection 000 and whose name begins with "." -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:08:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA09305 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA06009 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:04:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-e2b.gnn.com (mail-e2b.gnn.com [204.148.102.170]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA06005 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:04:29 -0800 Received: from 33-189.client.gnn.com. (33-189.client.gnn.com [205.188.33.189]) by mail-e2b.gnn.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/GNN-1.0.7) with SMTP id XAA30121; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:03:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611280403.XAA30121@mail-e2b.gnn.com> X-Mailer: GNNmessenger 1.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:07:30 From: KHenrickso@gnn.com (kelly J. Henrickson) To: cfids-1@american.edu, cfs-1@test.nih.gov, cfs-chat@sjuum.stjohns.edu, cfs-gate@sjuumlstjohns.edu, cfs-open@sjohns.edu, labmgr@ukcc.uky.edu, labmgr@lsu.uky.edu, medforum@listserv.arizona.edu, trnsplnt@wuumd.wustl.edu, mxdiag-1@health.state.ny.us, rc_world@listserv.1upui.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu, biotech@umdd.umd.edu Subject: new rapid viral multiplex RT-PCR-EHA RAPID Detection of RSV(A OR B),Influenza A or B, and Parainfluenza virus types 1,2,and 3 in respiratory infections by HEXAPLEX-PCR*-Quantitative Infection caused by respiratory syncytial virus (RSV A,B), influenza A and B and human parainfluenza virus types 1,2, and 3 (HPIV-1,2,and 3) produces upper and lower respiratory tract infections including croup, bronchiolitis, and pneumonia in infants, young children, the elderly, and immunocompromised and chronicaly ill patients of all ages. These 7 virus groups make up approximately 80-90% of viral respiratory pathogens found to cause disease in the above mentioned patients. Furthermore, recent studies have shown that ~5% of hospitalized adults with pneumonia have RSV as the etiology. In immunocompromised patients infection with one of the above viruses have been found in 18-31% of adult and pediatric patients with mortalities ranging between 40-50%. The seasonalities of these seven viruses overlap considerably and occur between September thru June with specific peaks in Nov, Jan, March, and June. It has been estimated that 250,000 children are hospitalized each year in the U.S. because of viral lower respiratory infection. Because infection with other agents may produce similar symptoms, rapid identification of the specific virus in clinical specimens may significantly affect patient treatment, morbidity, and cost (length of hospitalization). 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For additional technical or ordering information, please contact Prodesse Client Services at (414) 456-4956 or 456-4122 or fax 414-266-8549 specimen requirements: any respiratory specimen-at least 0.25 ml shipping requirements: transport all specimens either frozen or at refrigerated temperature. analysis time: 1 day -routine Monday thru Friday STAT--10 hrs upon receipt- call for arrangements cpt codes 83890x7,83892x7,83896x7,83898x7,83912 PRODESSE,INC 414-456-4956 *patent pending, the PCR test is performed through an agreement with roche Molecular Systems, Inc. ** Trademark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:36:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA10387 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA07823 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:32:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA07819 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:32:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vSzyw-00038BC; Wed, 27 Nov 96 22:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: coop-load@atreide.net (Tejvanse S. Dhillon) Subject: segmentation fault when sending mail Date: 27 Nov 1996 23:06:06 GMT Message-ID: <57ihgu$fq8@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I am using pine version 3.95L-1 with the qmail package with linux kernel 2.0.12_6 and am encoutering problems when I try to send mail using pine. Originally when I sent mail, there would be a message saying > /usr/sbin/sendmail: Permission Denied This file had the wrong link. I changed the link to the qmail sendmail wrapper. I can receive/send mail using the regular "mail" program that comes with linux. When I try sending mail with pine I get the following near the bottom of the console. > Segmentation fault [Sending mail | 0%|] and exits the program. does anyone know what is causing the segmentation fault. I would appreciate it if someone could suggest a way of fixing this. Tej coop-load@atreide.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:55:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA10350 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA09350 for pine-info-out; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:52:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA09346 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:52:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vT0KW-00038BC; Wed, 27 Nov 96 22:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Pine and file permissions Date: 26 Nov 1996 17:28:53 GMT Message-ID: Question: -------- Why does Pine need file permissions on a Folder in my Folder collection like the following: i.e. octal 600 -rw------- 1 vikas vikas 1085108 Nov 26 12:04 Miscellaneous The reason I am asking this is; I am using 'slrn' to read Usenet news (why not Pine? :-)....that is a whole different story :) ).... and when I save postings I want to save to my 'mail' directory, Pine does not list that folder when I go to my Folder List screen because it has the 'standard' file permissions .. i.e. -rw-r--r-- When I forcefully 'chmod' this file to -rw-------, and go out and back to the Folder List screen, it shows up all right and I am able to use that Folder just fine 'n dandy... Why cannot Pine just read any file as long it is in the proper 'mailbox' format and is 'readable' by the Pine process? Help??? Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 02:04:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA25633 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 02:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA10466 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:57:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA10462 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:57:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vT3CX-00038BC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 01:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: newsgroups Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:19:46 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 26 Nov 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: > Well. thats because Pine __supports__ only ONE newsrc file. A lo t of > other newsreaders out there support a per-NNTP-server newsrc file so > that you can have adifferent newsrc file for each NNTP server > that you use.. It's on my list to implement this. It's not trivial, because the way the code is currently constructed it has no idea of the name of the NNTP host when it goes to access the .newsrc file. I've tried without success to get a precise specification of how this works in other news software. Such questions as: 1) Is .newsrc still used? Under what conditions? 2) How do you know when to create .newsrc.host instead of .newsrc? 3) What is written as the host part? Is the host name canonicalized, and how? [Stop once CNAMEs are resolved and have a fully-qualified domain name, or do you get the IP address and look up the PTR record for that address?] Is case coerced to lowercase? etc. 4) Suppose there is a local news spool as well as NNTP. What are the rules for .newsrc? I can easily decide these details on my own, but if the intent is to be interoperable with other news readers I need to know their rules. I very much do not want to guess at these rules, only to find out much later (when the bug reports come in) that the guess was wrong in some subtle way. If it isn't important to be interoperable with other news readers, I'd do something much better than .newsrc; how would you like to have all the flags (not just the deleted flag) be sticky across sessions, so it remembers what postings you've answered, what messages you've read, you can flag messages, etc.). Actually, we've already decided that sooner or later there will be a better mechanism than .newsrc. The question is if that is "sooner" as part of supporting multiple servers or "later". -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 03:01:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA00204 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 03:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA12566 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 02:58:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA12562 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 02:58:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vT4A1-00038BC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 02:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: PINE procmail interface? Date: 26 Nov 1996 23:35:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <199611252231.WAA14251@equinox.unr.edu> malc@unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock) writes: ... > Has the PINE project considered adding a procmail editing interface to > PINE? (Not that they don't already have a full plate...) ... > If our users could set up a .procmailrc on the server from within PINE, > it would be most useful. I'd be willing to volunteer for some work on > this, if the PINE Project were interested. [Sorry in advance - this post started as a reply with a single point to make, but degenerated into a set of musings on related matters...] I really like the idea of getting some sort of access to mail filtering added into Pine -- people strongly expect it to be there (yes, yes, we _do_ know that this is an MUA not an MDA and all that good stuff, but...). However, this may be more difficult than it seems. For folks running Pine on a Unix box it's "just" a matter of providing some sort of easy interface to writing a .procmailrc file (and creating the appropriate .forward file), or the equivalent for filter, et al. But... what about folks running Pine on a PC, remotely accessing an IMAP server? If they have a Unix shell account, it could be dealt with through either arranging for the remote Pine to write the .procmailrc/.forward files there, or requiring a one-time logon, and using the host-based Pine to do the job. But I suspect it's becoming more common to set up IMAP servers as independent mail-spool machines, where users don't have a logon or home directory, just a mail file. Are those folks just out of luck? Or is there some sort of solution that could be devised for them? And, back to the main point... to generalize it a little, maybe something could be done to allow a sort of "plug-in" as a mail filter construction routine. After all, there are procmail, filter, and whatever-else out there. Perhaps something analogous to the way Pine currently (I think) invokes the system's "passwd" command, or the way Pine now has hooks for doing external processing of read/written messages (primarily used for encryption). If the approach is external and modular, then system folk could install the module(s) relevant for their system. Hmmm... in conjunction with that, might there be a way to use the filtering hooks, procmail, and some scripting glue to allow me to read a message and then, say, "reply" to the message (via a special filter) in such a way that its sender gets put automatically into a block-mail-from-this-sender list... Interesting... -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 03:51:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA13700 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 03:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA11498 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 03:43:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA11494 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 03:43:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vT4rq-00038BC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 03:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dbaker@crash.ops.neosoft.com (Daniel Baker) Subject: Re: Locking out bulk e-mail... Date: 27 Nov 1996 17:29:26 -0600 Message-ID: <57iism$2s7@crash.ops.neosoft.com> References: <57hhfh$ii@raven.eva.net> In article <57hhfh$ii@raven.eva.net>, J.C. Archambeau wrote: >I have been receiving lots of bulk e-mail lately. Is there a way for >a user to some how block out receiving bulk e-mail or is that something >my ISP has to do for me? I will probably be having my ISP changing my >service so I will be a Unix site dialing into his system via FreeBSD >rather than having a shell account on their system. If you are going to have your own FreeBSD box, it should be very easy for you to setup procmail or filter to filter your mail. Daniel > >Whichever way it needs to be done, I am interested to know the strategy >necessary to get rid of this nuisance. >-- >/* >** Internet: jca@accessnv.com | Don't blame me, I didn't vote for Clinton. >** jca@anv.net | Intel is the word for 'errata.' >*/ -- Daniel Baker -- Network Operations Technican, NeoSoft Inc dbaker@neo.net dbaker@neosoft.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 04:08:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA13703 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 04:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA13287 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 04:02:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA13283 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 04:02:02 -0800 Received: from graz.pseg.siemens.co.at (root@[10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA19397 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:01:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from ws6a21.pseg.siemens.co.at by graz.pseg.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3 for ) id m0vT5A2-000PgmC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 13:01 MET Received: from localhost by ws6a21.pseg.siemens.co.at (1.39.111.2/1.37) id AA190872409; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:00:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:00:09 +0100 (MET) From: Diethard Ohrt Reply-To: ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at To: Hans Schleichert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: WINMAIL.DAT In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Company: Siemens AG Organization: PSE TMN Graz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Hans Schleichert wrote: [> I noticed that emails from some sources have a file WINMAIL.DAT attached, [> or uuencoded, included with the mail message. I can view this file with a [> [...] There was already a mail to this list dealing with this subject (Fri, 22 Nov). I didn't save it, but I just found that I printed it (should be in comp.mail.pine as a news (Subject: Application/MS-TNEF Enclusures). TNEF: Transport Neutral Encapsulation Format "Apparently Microsoft Exchange Mail Clients put attachments in a file called WINMAIL.DAT. They are in tnef." ---> http://www.wp.com/davidb/tnef.html Cheers, Diti _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _ __------ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | -- \ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ |_ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | ___-\ o | _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ /_/ | | |__---| Diethard Ohrt Steiermark - das gruene Herz Oesterreichs SIEMENS AG / PSE TMN G1 Styria - the green heart of Austria A-8054 Graz Austria Styrie - le coeur vert d'Autriche =========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 05:23:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA13960 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 05:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA14368 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 05:18:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA14364 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 05:18:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vT6HQ-00038BC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 05:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Lost commands Date: 25 Nov 1996 12:59:36 GMT Message-ID: <57c57o$7nv@news1.epix.net> References: <57aug6$81a@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> Mavis Spence (ae986@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote: : I seem to have lost the commands at the bottom of the messages in the : newsgroups, can anyone help me to correct this problem. As it seems you are posting from TIN, just type H (shift+h). That's all! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:38:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA15776 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA17344 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:34:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA17340 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:33:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTCA8-00038TC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 11:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 27 Nov 1996 19:39:17 GMT Message-ID: References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> <571o0o$5p2@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit R. Stewart Ellis wrote: : Why switch? If you are on a windowing computer you should be able to have : both pine and a real newsreader open at the same time. I run Solaris 2.x : and always have pine open in an xterm in the lower right hand corner. I : usually read news with nn in an xterm right above it. You could do : something similar with telnet on Windoze or MuckOS. When I am logged in : from my ancient DOS laptop from the road I use shell job control to have them : both running and switch back and forth using that mechanism so that I do not : have to stop or start either one. Thanks for interesting suggestions - got me realize it's time to enhance my working routines. Starting slowly, I am beginning with 'screen', a unix program allowing you simultaneously to run several programs on full-screen windows, switching between which is lightning fast. Xterm next... : If you have a really fast, easy-to-use newsreader, threads and advanced : killfile features are not the most important thing. I dislike reading news : with tin almost as much as I dislike reading news with pine or netscape. Speed, easiness to use and sophisticated threading and scoring features (for those who want them) can really be combined. For some time I have been reading news with slrn, and find it superb. The same goes for the slim but powerful, beautifully designed mail client mutt, which I have been using for a couple of weeks. However, both these programs require of the user some initialization time and effort, for scanning through the manual, and trimming the configuration file to one's satisfaction. That fixed, ah.. Perhaps this is a basic problem with popular programs like pine and tin: they are trying to satisfy _both_ the absolute computer beginners, occasional users, lazy never-open-a-manual people(argh!) with a "friendly" interface and tons of help and config menus, _and_ the power users with an ever growing battery of features. An impossible goal, _really_ satisyfying no one, and making the programs too heavy and resource consuming? -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi University of Helsinki * Nordica / Institute of literature From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:16:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA31567 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA19508 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:14:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA19504 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:14:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTCnP-00038BC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 12:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cro@socrates.nca.asu.edu (C. R. Oldham) Subject: Notify on multiple inboxes. Date: 26 Nov 1996 09:48:01 -0700 Message-ID: <87682s4xby.fsf@socrates.nca.asu.edu> Greetings, Is there any way to configure pine 3.95 to notify me when I get a new message in any one of the folders in my incoming folder collection? Thanks, -- | Charles R. (C. R.) Oldham | NCA Commission on Schools | | cro@nca.asu.edu | Arizona St. Univ., PO Box 873011 | | V:602/965-8700 F:602/965-9423 |________ Tempe, AZ 85287-3011_ | | "I like it!"--Citizen G'Kar, Babylon 5 | #include X_>| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:33:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA13101 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA18969 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:30:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from luna.ngdc.noaa.gov (luna.ngdc.noaa.gov [140.172.172.121]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA18965 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:30:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (srutt@localhost) by luna.ngdc.noaa.gov (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA20645 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:30:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:30:30 -0700 (MST) From: Stan Ruttenberg To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: print & other problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Since my site installed the latest verdsion, I have had nothinbg but problems. I have been using the print command "UY" successfully until it started to give me only a screen dump. Now it seems to think that my printer is called "vik gilboa." My Avik Gilboa, on AOL, is one with whom I correspond a lot but how his name ever got into my printer config I do not onow. Also, most commands or buttons appear THREE times. I tried getting into S, then C but find nothing that hels me get my print command to work. HELP!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:51:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA18138 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA19201 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:49:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA19195 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:49:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTEIh-00038BC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 13:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Date: 26 Nov 1996 11:19:18 EST Control: cancel <56pbb6$ra7@newton.pacific.net.sg> Subject: cmsg cancel <56pbb6$ra7@newton.pacific.net.sg> no reply ignore Message-ID: Spam cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was Asymetrix Embraces KaiZenWare From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:08:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA21863 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA20879 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:04:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA20875 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:04:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTEX0-00038TC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 14:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Re: Keeping messages below 75 columns, please. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:21:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32998539.499512B3@hss.hns.com> <57c6bj$7ug@news1.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi John, On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, John aka DearOldDad wrote: : > Make sure Pine knows the maximum width is 75 columns by going into the : > configuration and setting that value (composer-wrap-column). : : That makes no sense as the default composer-wrap-column in PINE is 74 : so why would he want to reset it to 75, if anything maybe set it : lower, perhaps 70? : It has been awhile since I saw the original default for the composers wrap. So I agree with you. But I was basing my information on "A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community" which states... Limit Line Length and Avoid Control Characters. Try to keep your text in a generic format. Many (if not most) of the people reading Usenet do so from 80 column terminals or from workstations with 80 column terminal windows. Try to keep your lines of text to less than 80 characters for optimal readability. If people quote part of your article in a followup, short lines will probably show up better, too. ...so I thought 75 was a good average. But like I said, I agree that 70 would better :) . : > Place hard returns at the end of a line ... : : Not a very good idea IMHO, and bad advice to a novice user, see below. : What I meant was that if the composer (like in Nutscrape) doesn't understand line length, then one should place a return before 80 columns limit has been exceeded. I have read many peoples messages that was composed on Nutscrape and they always exceed several hundred columns of text per paragraph. This is always fun to include in a reply. So by hitting the return before 80 (75) columns in the composer, would help and insure that lines are not to long. Perhaps this NewsGroups wasn't necessarily the best place to complain about Nutscrape's composer. : > More and more people who write E-Mail or post to UseNet use crappy : > programs such as Nutscrape which has no concept of width (among other : > things:) ). : : Well, I agree with that, but since you 'missed' the original post the : original poster said he had a total of 1 (one) days experience with : pine and was asking for help on some other items, and he was using the : keyboard tab key (which confuses many newsreaders) so I only tried to : point out to him that perhaps he shouldn't do that and also that a : smaller line wrap might make his posts more readable. : I agree, TABS should not be used. : > And while I'm on the soap box, people need to use proportional fonts : > too. : : Why? Do ya wanna SHOUT? : It is my understanding that a proportional font merely means that the letter "i" is the same width as the letter "w". So that 75 "i"'s would end up on the same column as 75 "w"'s This is useful if someone wants to point out something... ^^^^^ ...so the carrots should be under the word "point". However, after further review, perhaps I should of said fixed-pitch font instead? : > Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... : : What's a AMIGA ... That's like one of them supernintendos?? : Where to begin? It is a computer that can run the PC OS, Mac OS, Unix OS, etc and of course its own great OS. It is a computer that had multitasking 10 years before the Microsloth's Windows95. I could go on, but.... Thanks for the reply, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:58:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA10761 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA23401 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:55:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA23397 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:55:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTK2J-00038UC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 19:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jianping@spartacus.hula.net (JP Liu) Subject: Command Line Pine for NT Date: 24 Nov 1996 15:48:02 -1000 Message-ID: <57atsi$213@spartacus.hula.net> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:58:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA11807 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA24966 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:55:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA24956 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:54:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTK2C-00038TC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 19:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Pine vs NX Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:21:17 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Just found a interesting thing this morning between the News Xpress (NX) and Pine. Here's what happened... I was having some problems with the speed of my video card so I thought I would check out Comp.Sys.IBM.PC.Hardware.Video and see if anyone had left any messages similar to the problems I was having. So I connected to my ISP with PPP and started NX. Clicked view all, double- clicked c.s.i.p.h.v. NewsGroup and the articles started to load in. This was taking a very long time, so I started NetTerm and went into my Shell. Started Pine and added the c.s.i.p.h.v. NewsGroup to my list and had it fetch the articles too. Pine finished before NX, and I started to look around. Finally NX was done and then I noticed something strange. Pine had received 2700+ new articles and NX had received 4100+ new articles. Obviously this was the reason that NX took so much longer then Pine, but why not a closer amount of new articles then 1400? I HAVE NEVER viewed this group before, so it wasn't a matter of one NEWSRC file for one program that was different then the other for the same group. So my question is... Why such a big differents in the amount of new articles between two different programs, receiving the same NewsGroup at the same time? Here are some of the theories that my ISP's Tech Support and I came up with... NX does not understand deleted files on the news server, so it loaded in all the articles that it found, even old one and pine does understand the differents. - or - Since Pine is a memory/cpu hog, there is a cap that has been placed on Pine so that it can only hog... errr um :) ... fetch only so many articles. ...Are we close? Is it something else? Thanks for reading and any suggestions are welcomed. Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:58:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA20846 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA23395 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:54:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA23391 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:54:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTK2C-00038BC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 19:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Iso-8859-1 ...??? Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:55:19 -0500 Message-ID: References: <57e9q2$92h@sugar.h.belgacom.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <57e9q2$92h@sugar.h.belgacom.be> On 26 Nov 1996, Benjamin Gonay wrote: > With some mails i receive, i've often this message : > > [The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set] > [Your display is set for the "ISO-Latin-1" character set] > [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] > > In my rc.keymap file, i load the be-lat1.map for the keyboard...i don't > know if this has an incidence, or is it an other variable..????? Go into your Pine configuration (from the Main Menu) and set the character set which *Pine* knows about to ISO-8859-1 . Pine is generating the message and does not know about your rc.keymap file. ISO-8859-1, I believe, is the standard designation, not ISO-Latin-1, even though the character set is commonly referred to as Latin-1. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:23:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA19669 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA25260 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:20:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA25254 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:19:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTKMw-00038BC; Thu, 28 Nov 96 20:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Routing received mail? Date: 25 Nov 1996 04:04:27 GMT Message-ID: <57b5sb$lp3@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, aleph (aleph@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | Can I somehow route certain received mail into a separate folder? By filtering... It's not a mailer agent issue. RTFM of procmail or filter on UN*X systems... HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Le privilège de l'absurdité est réservé à la seule créature humaine. -- T. Hobbes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:41:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA21225 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:41:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA25470 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:38:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA25466 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:38:22 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA08442; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:10:51 +0530 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:10:50 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: "C. R. Oldham" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: slirp In-Reply-To: <87682s4xby.fsf@socrates.nca.asu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi everyone, i am using a shell connection. is there a way to configure pine with the help of slirp so that i get to experience a virtual slip/ppp connectivity? bye, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- p.s: scott, please ignore this mail. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:44:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA16457 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA26865 for pine-info-out; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:41:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA26861 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:41:12 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA09039 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:40:03 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA15272; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:42:02 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:42:01 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Mark Crispin cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: newsgroups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 26 Nov 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: > > Well. thats because Pine __supports__ only ONE newsrc file. A lo t of > > other newsreaders out there support a per-NNTP-server newsrc file so > > that you can have adifferent newsrc file for each NNTP server > > that you use.. > > It's on my list to implement this. It's not trivial, because the way the > code is currently constructed it has no idea of the name of the NNTP host > when it goes to access the .newsrc file. > Another related problem is how Pine handles list of known groups on server. Currently, Pine *always* fetches newsgroups list when I SUbscribe to new group. In case of slow line it is pretty time-(and money-)consuming. What about storing local copy of available newsgroups and update them if neccessary (e.g. when requested group was not found)? I understand, that it would be hard to do currently, as you have no idea which server is accessed, but if you are moving to multiple servers support, it should be easy. > > If it isn't important to be interoperable with other news readers, I'd do > something much better than .newsrc; how would you like to have all the > flags (not just the deleted flag) be sticky across sessions, so it > remembers what postings you've answered, what messages you've read, you > can flag messages, etc.). > Do it!!! greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:16:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA22944 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:16:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA26147 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:10:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA26141 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:10:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTNx5-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 00:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "'Rob' R. Fulwell" Subject: Re: Need Info on Lynx Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:33:39 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Try http://www.nyu.edu/pages/wsn/subir/lynx/about_lynx/about_lynx.html I use lynx every day. Works well (and fast). On 13 Nov 1996, Linda Emerson wrote: > Date: 13 Nov 1996 05:28:59 -0800 > From: Linda Emerson > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Need Info on Lynx > > Anyone know if there's a "lynx-info" list out there? I've checked for > newsgroups but there's nothing applicable. > > Thanks! > > ... : ... > :: > Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra > lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California > > > -- Rob Fulwell Dod#0718-GS850L http://weber.u.washington.edu/~miser or keyserver for PGP public key NOTICE: Please see the above web page before sending commercial e-mail From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:18:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA07905 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA27893 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:15:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA27889 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:15:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTO51-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 00:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Keeping messages below 75 columns, please. Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:42:11 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32998539.499512B3@hss.hns.com> <57c6bj$7ug@news1.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <57c6bj$7ug@news1.epix.net> Hi John, On 25 Nov 1996, DearOldDad wrote: : ...set your communications program to line-wrap outgoing messages. : I hope this is on topic since I don't have the original post, sorry if I'm wrong. I am NOT intending this to be a flame, but rather an observation. As I see it, the best way to fix lines that go over 80 columns is not to tell the person to have their communication software do the word wrapping for them. This tends to make people lazy. But instead to follow the guideline that most people follow and that is don't let the outgoing message exceed 75 columns in the first place. Make sure Pine knows the maximum width is 75 columns by going into the configuration and setting that value (composer-wrap-column). Place hard returns at the end of a line if you must or use the 'JUSTIFY' (^J) in Pine to fix lines that go beyond 75 columns (most important including quoted text and how to trim them). More and more people who write E-Mail or post to UseNet use crappy programs such as Nutscrape which has no concept of width (among other things:) ). If people would learn that there is such a thing as Net-etiquette as it pertains to columns, quoting would be so much easier overall. And while I'm on the soap box, people need to use proportional fonts too. I done :) . C-ya, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:19:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA23190 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA26839 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:15:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA26834 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:15:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTP0S-00038TC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 01:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Iso-8859-1 ...??? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: <57e9q2$92h@sugar.h.belgacom.be> <57i439$lhi@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:56:06 GMT On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Alan J. Flavell wrote (excerpt): > > > As far as I'm > > concerned, DOS CP 850 and EBCDIC CECP1047 are valid encodings of > > the Latin-1 repertoire. Naturally, I agree that they aren't ISO > > standard codings of the Latin-1 repertoire, but I never claimed > > that they were. > > I totally agree with you. However, with respect to Pine, a user > will probably get more and better results by setting the character-set > parameter in the configuration to ISO-8859-1 rather than to something > else for Latin-1, because the former is probably in most common use. Obviously I agree with that! You've taken the remark entirely out of context. I was only commenting on someone's earlier claim that the expression "Latin-1" meant "ISO-8859-1". As to what you have said, well, you have to set PINE to agree with the code that your terminal emulation is set to. Alternatively you set your terminal emulation to what PINE is set to. Hey, I'm reminded of a remark in a Chinese cookbook that says either this dish has to be eaten immediately after it's cooked, or if that's not possible, it needs to be cooked immediately before it's eaten. best regards From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:13:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA22179 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA27532 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:08:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA27528 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:08:29 -0800 Received: (qmail 1018 invoked from network); 29 Nov 1996 10:08:24 -0000 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@130.79.74.66) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr with SMTP; 29 Nov 1996 10:08:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:08:24 +0100 (MET) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: header parsing pine problem... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello, once more today i wondered about the missing subject of some of my incoming mail... i noticed that every mail coming from the X.400 world lacked a subject... now i looked into the headers and found a Subject Field..., so why isn't it recognized? i put into the appendice first a header of a X.400 mail (Subject not recognized, and after a header of normal SMTP-mail, header recognized) I do not see major differences with the Subject-Tag, so what shall be made to make the X.400-coming Subject visible? ============X.400=============================== From 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Fri Sep 15 08:36:58 1995 Return-Path: 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Received: from sicmail.epfl.ch (pp@sicmail.epfl.ch [128.178.50.31]) by erm1.u-st rasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA20475; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:36:56 +0200 Status: RO X-Status: X400-Received: by mta sicmail.epfl.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arCom/C=ch/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:32:22 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:32:22 +0200 X400-Originator: 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arCom/C=ch/;sicmail.ep.583:15.08.95.06.3 2.22] Priority: Non-Urgent DL-Expansion-History: 1076-1@epfl.ch ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:32:20 +0200; From: "Jean-michel.Berge" Message-ID: To: analog_reflector <1076-1@epfl.ch> Subject: DASC Meetings in October X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/MS 3.0.0 ===============SMTP========================= From 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Thu Sep 7 09:19:12 1995 Return-Path: 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Received: from sicmail.epfl.ch (pp@sicmail.epfl.ch [128.178.50.31]) by erm1.u-st rasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA13673; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:19:11 +0200 Received: from c3imac12.epfl.ch by sicmail.epfl.ch with SMTP (PP) id <03241-0@sicmail.epfl.ch>; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:12:45 +0200 X-Sender: vachoux@c3i9.epfl.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:12:47 +0200 To: 1076-1@epfl.ch From: alain.vachoux@leg.de.epfl.ch (Alain Vachoux EPFL-LEG/C3i) Subject: 1076.1 on the Web + New DOD/DOR Status: RO X-Status: ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (official & not reliable) http://erm6.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (inofficial & reliable :) =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:30:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA09530 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA29373 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:23:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA29369 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:23:48 -0800 Received: (qmail 1137 invoked from network); 29 Nov 1996 10:23:44 -0000 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@130.79.74.66) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr with SMTP; 29 Nov 1996 10:23:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:23:43 +0100 (MET) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: RE: header parsing pine problem... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII here i am again, i noticed a difference.... there a blank lines in the header coming from the X.400 parts, and probably its their fault, that the header isn't recognized correctly... ============X.400=============================== >From 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Fri Sep 15 08:36:58 1995 Return-Path: 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Received: from sicmail.epfl.ch (pp@sicmail.epfl.ch [128.178.50.31]) by erm1.u-st rasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA20475; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:36:56 +0200 Status: RO X-Status: <---- here !!!!!!!!!!!! X400-Received: by mta sicmail.epfl.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arCom/C=ch/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:32:22 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:32:22 +0200 X400-Originator: 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; heres another one.... From Winfried.Boettcher@jrc.it Tue Sep 12 12:41:56 1995 Return-Path: Winfried.Boettcher@jrc.it Received: from dicsmss1.jrc.it (dicsmss1.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by erm1.u-strasb g.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA31483 for ; Tue, 1 2 Sep 1995 12:41:54 +0200 From: Winfried.Boettcher@jrc.it Received: from scomta.isei.jrc.it (scomta.jrc.it) by dicsmss1.jrc.it (4.1/EB-950 131-C) id AA22233; Tue, 12 Sep 95 12:43:48 +0200 Received: by scomta.isei.jrc.it (5.65/5.59C-eef) id AA26509; Tue, 12 Sep 95 12:32:14 +0200 Status: RO X-Status: X400-Received: by mta pcmta2 in /PRMD=ccrispra/ADMD=garr/C=it ; Relayed ; 12 Sep 95 12:33:55 +0000 X400-Received: by mta mhshub in /PRMD=ccrispra/ADMD=garr/C=it ; Relayed ; 12 Sep 95 12:31:58 +0000 what's about the lines beginning with spaces/tabs? do they too make a problem? it would be easy to fix, in fact the header parsing should only stop when after a blank line the following line do not begin with X400-Received (supposing, that indented lines do not make problems) where should this be made? does anybody already fixed that? For sure a better fix would be to correct the X.400/SMTP Gateways..., but in meantime it would be nice if pine could have a workaround... ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (official & not reliable) http://erm6.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (inofficial & reliable :) =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:36:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA03565 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA29451 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:32:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA29447 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:31:48 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00377 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:30:40 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA15930; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:32:46 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:32:44 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list cc: Bruno Boettcher Subject: Re: header parsing pine problem... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > > i noticed that every mail coming from the X.400 world lacked a subject... > > now i looked into the headers and found a Subject Field..., so why isn't it > recognized? > [ ... snipped ... ] > > ============X.400=============================== > >From 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Fri Sep 15 08:36:58 1995 > Return-Path: 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch > Received: from sicmail.epfl.ch (pp@sicmail.epfl.ch [128.178.50.31]) by erm1.u-st > rasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA20475; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:36:56 +0200 > Status: RO > X-Status: > > X400-Received: by mta sicmail.epfl.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arCom/C=ch/; [ ... snipped ... ] You *don't* have Subject: any more - the X-Status: is followed by blank line, and anything after it becomes a body :-( It is problem of your local mail delivery program, which treats X400-* header as start of *body*. But I am just curious, what system do you use? I have seen the same problem on our systems as well when usin /bin/mail (rmail is just a link to /bin/mail) - it choked on every unknown header (not only X... - MIME-Version: would do as well ;) But I didn't spend time to investigate it - I am pretty happy with sendmail/procmail/Pine. greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:45:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA23321 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA27858 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:41:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA27854 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:41:19 -0800 Received: (qmail 1348 invoked from network); 29 Nov 1996 10:41:17 -0000 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@130.79.74.66) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr with SMTP; 29 Nov 1996 10:41:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:41:16 +0100 (MET) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: Andrej Borsenkow cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: header parsing pine problem... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > You *don't* have Subject: any more - the X-Status: is followed by blank > line, and anything after it becomes a body :-( It is problem of your local > mail delivery program, which treats X400-* header as start of *body*. what about lines beginning with trailing blanks? > > But I didn't spend time to investigate it - I am pretty happy with > sendmail/procmail/Pine. i am now using qmail/deliver/pine, but i had exactly the same problem as i was using sendmail/deliver/pine.... i suspect it is more a problem with the X.400/SMTP gateway than one of my local system.... But i think that i have not enough authority to let it fix by the responsible persons :) thsu i need a local fix... ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (official & not reliable) http://erm6.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (inofficial & reliable :) =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:55:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA16326 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA29673 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:52:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA29669 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:52:30 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 29 Nov 96 18:51:04 +0800 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:48:10 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Bruno Boettcher cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: header parsing pine problem... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > i put into the appendice first a header of a X.400 mail (Subject not > recognized, and after a header of normal SMTP-mail, header recognized) > I do not see major differences with the Subject-Tag, so what shall be made > to make the X.400-coming Subject visible? Is there really a "blank-line" below where I've added an "*" > ============X.400=============================== > >From 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Fri Sep 15 08:36:58 1995 > Return-Path: 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch > Received: from sicmail.epfl.ch (pp@sicmail.epfl.ch [128.178.50.31]) by erm1.u-st > rasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA20475; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:36:56 +0200 > Status: RO > X-Status: > * <----Blank line here???? > X400-Received: by mta sicmail.epfl.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arCom/C=ch/; > Relayed; > Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:32:22 +0200 > Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:32:22 +0200 > X400-Originator: 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch > X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; > X400-MTS-Identifier: > [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arCom/C=ch/;sicmail.ep.583:15.08.95.06.3 > 2.22] > Priority: Non-Urgent > DL-Expansion-History: 1076-1@epfl.ch ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:32:20 +0200; > From: "Jean-michel.Berge" > Message-ID: > To: analog_reflector <1076-1@epfl.ch> > Subject: DASC Meetings in October > X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/MS 3.0.0 If so, that is your problem as the blank line denotes the end of the headers and the "Subject:" line appears after that. The problem then becomes, what is putting the blank line there???? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 03:13:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA16396 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 03:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA29866 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 03:10:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA29862 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 03:10:15 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA02783 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:09:06 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA16179; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:11:11 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:11:09 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list cc: Bruno Boettcher Subject: Re: header parsing pine problem... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > > > You *don't* have Subject: any more - the X-Status: is followed by blank > > line, and anything after it becomes a body :-( It is problem of your local > > mail delivery program, which treats X400-* header as start of *body*. > what about lines beginning with trailing blanks? > > > > > But I didn't spend time to investigate it - I am pretty happy with > > sendmail/procmail/Pine. > i am now using qmail/deliver/pine, but i had exactly the same problem as i > was using sendmail/deliver/pine.... Just one thing to note - you are still using the same local delivery program (deliver). > > i suspect it is more a problem with the X.400/SMTP gateway than one of my > local system.... [ from first message ] >From 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Fri Sep 15 08:36:58 1995 Return-Path: 1076-1-request@sicmail.epfl.ch Received: from sicmail.epfl.ch (pp@sicmail.epfl.ch [128.178.50.31]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA20475; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:36:56 +0200 Status: RO X-Status: < ---- trailing blank line It would mean, that your sedmail gets message without *any* header in it at all!!! I suspect, it would add at least Mesage-Id: to it. > But i think that i have not enough authority to let it fix by the > responsible persons :) You can always make an official bug report to maintainers of your mail server, don't you? > thsu i need a local fix... > The fix you propose just is not possible :( greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 06:21:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA08810 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 06:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA02057 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 06:16:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA02053 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 06:16:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTTgS-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 06:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjrsoft@world.std.com (Gene J. Raymond) Subject: Re: Setting Reply-To in pine? Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:58:34 GMT In article , Jeffrey D Few wrote: >Anyone know if setting a reply-to address in pine is an option? From the Main menu, select Setup, then Configure, and search for customized-hdrs. Add in your Reply-to: header, save the configuration, and the next time that you compose an e-mail, it should be there. -- Gene J. Raymond | gjrsoft@world.std.com | Se habla espanol. GJR Software Products | GJRSoft@aol.com | On parle francais. PO Box 3416 Merrifield, VA 22116-3416 http://world.std.com/~gjrsoft/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:59:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA14283 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA03205 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:56:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from washington.patriot.net (washington.patriot.net [206.151.9.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA03201 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:56:02 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by washington.patriot.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA01766; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:56:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:56:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: Michael cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs NX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Michael wrote: [...] > NX does not understand deleted files on the news server, so it loaded in > all the articles that it found, even old one and pine does understand the > differents. Unlikely. INN, the most prevalent news server, doesn't keep "deleted" articles on the server, it deletes them. If an article's been cancelled, the client never sees it. > - or - > > Since Pine is a memory/cpu hog, there is a cap that has been placed on > Pine so that it can only hog... errr um :) ... fetch only so many articles. Doubtfull, but possible, I suppose. > ...Are we close? Is it something else? If you read other groups that have articles crossposted to this new group you read, perhaps Pine is smart enough to recognize articles that you've already seen in other groups. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:29:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA12280 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA03554 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:26:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA03547 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:26:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTXaV-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 10:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: luweiguo@iscs.nus.sg (Lu Weiguo) Subject: Re: Procmail! Date: 25 Nov 1996 13:14:57 GMT Message-ID: <57c64h$2i7@nuscc.nus.sg> References: Dinesh R. Thakkar (drt@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in) wrote: : Hello, : Can any please tell me what is procmail? Does it help in filtering : messages to respective folders? Where will I get more information? : Thanks, Dinesh. procmail, autonomous mail processor, should be invoked automatically over the .forward file mechanism as soon as mail arrives. it is available at ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz. -- weiguo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:59:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA14302 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:59:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA05406 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:56:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA05402 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 10:56:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTY2W-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 10:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kevin grey Subject: pine & usenet Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:24:38 GMT Message-ID: Can anyone tell me how to use pine for news reading?. I am running Linux 1.2.8 Slackware 2.3 on a PC, I am useing Cnews and pine 3.91 . Regards Kevin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:41:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA27651 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA04462 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:36:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA04457 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:36:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTYhI-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 11:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David J N Begley Subject: Re: privacy hole in pine Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:13:05 +1100 Message-ID: References: <57jgjp$fd4@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <57jgjp$fd4@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> On 28 Nov 1996, Tilmann Boess wrote: > is not possible for `~/.pinerc'. As a workaround, I created the following > simple shell script and aliased pine to pine-secure: Why not just do what we do, and run with a "077" umask for all users by default? PINE is just doing what it's supposed to do in relation to the umask, IMHO. Cheers.. dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:00:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA12451 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA06228 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:56:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA06224 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:56:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTZ1Q-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 11:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rameshg@Sun.COM (Ramesh Gunna) Subject: Re: Notify on multiple inboxes. Date: 26 Nov 1996 17:39:18 GMT Message-ID: <57fa06$nk5@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <87682s4xby.fsf@socrates.nca.asu.edu> C. R. Oldham (cro@socrates.nca.asu.edu) wrote: : Greetings, : Is there any way to configure pine 3.95 to notify me when I get a new : message in any one of the folders in my incoming folder collection? : Thanks, : -- : | Charles R. (C. R.) Oldham | NCA Commission on Schools | : | cro@nca.asu.edu | Arizona St. Univ., PO Box 873011 | : | V:602/965-8700 F:602/965-9423 |________ Tempe, AZ 85287-3011_ | : | "I like it!"--Citizen G'Kar, Babylon 5 | #include X_>| The way I have understood is to use other mail notification programs to do that, for e.g., xbuffy or xmultibiff on Unix for X-windows. I don't think pine by itself has that capability ?? -- Cheers, Ramesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:21:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA27414 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA06461 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:16:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from riverview.net (ftp.riverview.net [206.250.30.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA06457 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:16:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199611292016.MAA06457@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from haven.riverview.net by riverview.net with SMTP (IPAD 1.12) id 1967200 ; Fri, 29 Nov 96 15:17:49 UTC Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Teresa R. Dunlap" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 15:14:52 -400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: help Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) I'm trying to set up PC Pine to work with my ISP....but my connection with my ISP keeps getting refused.......i'm reading the error message 10061 that my connection is refused, what can I do to correct this? Teresa o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o Veni, Vidi, Vulture! (I came, I saw, I called my lawyer!) o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o*o From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:56:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA25245 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:56:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA05444 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:51:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA05440 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:51:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTZtE-00038TC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 12:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Correct character set when reading mail in PCPINE/DOS 3.95 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:49:01 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having some problems while reading mail in PcPine (DOS version), and that is that the incoming messages get all their highbit characters all messed up. I have got it to correctly convert outgoing mails to ISO 8859-1, but I can't get it to convert ingoing mails from ISO 8859-1. All I get are question marks. Does anyone have any ideas? If you have the answer, please also mail me, so that I won't miss the answer. If you're just doing some general commentary on the matter, please don't mail me, just post to this group. advTHANKSance \\// Peter - m9944@abc.se - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:01:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA25854 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA06934 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:56:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA06930 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:56:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTZyu-00038TC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 12:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey D Few Subject: Setting Reply-To in pine? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:51:53 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone know if setting a reply-to address in pine is an option? --- Jeffrey Few (j-few@nwu.edu) Northwestern University Medill School of Journalism '99 http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~captive/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:02:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA27675 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA05492 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:57:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA05488 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:56:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTZyw-00038UC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 12:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 26 Nov 1996 12:04:27 GMT Message-ID: <57emcb$93n@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> <571o0o$5p2@news.eecs.umich.edu> vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) writes: >On 21 Nov 1996 14:12:40 GMT, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: >[You wrote ]I have been reading news several hours a day since the late 80's and there > > Reading Usenet for several hours a day? Ummm.. What do you do for a living? I am a college professor, which you should have been able to deduce from the sig, and a UNIX and Internet consultant, which my not be clear from my sig. In either of those you do a *lot* of reading because if you do not stay up with what is going on your market value plummets (not to mention professional pride). >I would sure like to work there :) Ahhh.. so some people are actually living >the life I am dreaming of :) If you are not capable of paying enough attention to detail to figure out at least the first job above, then you probably would not be any good at the second one. If you think that all I do is read news several hours a day, then you fundamentally fail to understand the work load of the average college professor. :| >--Vikas -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:00:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA31367 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA11600 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:57:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA11593 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:57:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTfaC-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 18:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Jess Bowers Subject: Re: screen is black w. white letters Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 15:55:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Nov 1996, Anne Whitefield wrote: > I prefer a white screen with black letters. How can I effect this change? I had the same problem but in reverse. Assuming you're dialing-in from home and depending on your communications program this might work for you. Change the terminal emulation mode to VT100. Also try some other modes. Usually the change will not take place untill the next time you logon. If you find something else that works please let me know. Hope this helps, T. Jess Bowers GSU College of Law tjbowers@gsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:25:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA31624 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA10516 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:22:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA10512 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:22:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTfzH-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 19:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yol@vax.cname.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?) Subject: headers query Date: 30 Nov 1996 00:26:26 GMT Message-ID: <57nuvi$kj6@news.spies.com> i'm having some trouble with my From: line using Pine. i'm a subscriber to a local ISP. i have a ppp account with my own IP and domain name. we just upgraded Sendmail.. to version 8.8.3, i believe. before that, any message i sent would have the From: line say "yol@esophagus.com", using my domain name. since then, it now says From: yol@area.com, which is the name of my ISP. interestingly, if i send mail via /usr/ucb/Mail, my From: line is correct. i spent a while going through the docs and FAQ for Pine at their website. i tested out a number of custom configurations in my .pinerc and nothing has fixed this. i can't seem to figure out what i/Pine is doing wrong. here is an example of the headers: From yol@area.com Fri Nov 29 15:39:10 1996 Received: from mail5.netcom.com (root@mail5.netcom.com [192.100.81.141]) by vax. cname.com (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA05354 for ; Fri, 29 N ov 1996 15:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from vax.cname.com (vax.cname.com [206.204.77.27]) by mail5.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id PAA10335; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 15:36:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (yol@localhost) by vax.cname.com (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA05345 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 15:37:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 15:37:34 -0800 (PST) From: SUGAR in their vitamins? X-Sender: yol@vax.cname.com Reply-To: yol@area.com To: yol@netcom.com Subject: test Message-ID: Organization: Flying Esophagus Productions X-Web: http://www.esophagus.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 101 here are the relevant parts of my .pinerc that i have configured: # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name=SUGAR in their vitamins? # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=esophagus.com # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list=include-text-in-reply, signature-at-bottom, enable-full-header-cmd, quell-dead-letter-on-cancel, quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file, compose-cut-from-cursor # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs=To:, Cc:, Bcc:, Lcc:, Attchmnt:, Subject: # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs=Reply-To: yol@esophagus.com, Organization: Flying Esophagus Productions, X-Web: http://www.esophagus.com # When viewing messages, include this list of headers viewer-hdrs=From:, Resent-From:, To:, Resent-To:, Cc:, Resent-cc:, Bcc:, Newsgroups:, Followup-To:, Date:, Resent-Date:, Subject:, Resent-Subject:, Reply-To:, Organiztion: # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name=Yes any pointers are greatly appreciated. hasta. -- Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:30:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA31666 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA11940 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:27:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA11930 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:27:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTg36-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 19:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: want to view the INBOX directly Date: 26 Nov 1996 12:44:06 GMT Message-ID: <57eomm$ael@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <32998539.499512B3@hss.hns.com> <57c6bj$7ug@news1.epix.net> dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) writes: >Bharath Kumar (bkumar@hss.hns.com) wrote: >: I started using pine 3.95 version only today and I have a problem with that. >: When I activate the pine program I want to view the messages of INBOX directly. I'm unable to >: do that. It is going to the main menu directly. Wrap your lines at 65 or chars. >That's the default behavior of PINE. >: Can we read the messages of the INBOX directly after invoking pine ?? Can someone help me... >You have 2 choices (actually there are more but if have only started using >it today these will do for now) ... 1 as soon as you get to the main menu >type "i" ... 2 invoke pine with the command "pine -i" rather than just >"pine" Actually 3 choices, and the best one is not listed. I read two replies to the above message. Neither the current one nor the other one pointed out that you can set an option in pine to play an initial keystroke list. Here are the comment line and the setting line from my .pinerc: # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) initial-keystroke-list=i >Two more suggestions, unrelated to your questions ... don't use the TAB >key to indent ... set your communications program to line-wrap outgoing >messages. Hope this helps. BYE. Amen. >John -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:59:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA30288 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA10944 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:57:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA10940 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:57:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTgXD-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 19:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: logan@kronos-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov (Logan Shaw) Subject: Re: privacy hole in pine Message-ID: <1996Nov28.145205.6083@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov> References: <57jgjp$fd4@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 14:52:05 GMT In article <57jgjp$fd4@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>, Tilmann Boess wrote: >The versions 3.94 (tested on IBM AIX 3.2) and 3.95 (tested on Linux 2.0) >(I don't know about earlier versions.) of pine include a privacy hole: > >If you write a new message, pine creates a backup file (named >`#pico#') of the mail text in your home directory. The access >mode of this file is determined by your standard umask. For most users >this is set to `022', thus setting the access mode for the backup file to >644, so that the text you just write is world-readable. Also the files >`~/.pinerc' and `.addressbook' are created using the default umask. IMHO >these files should be readable by no one except its owner. Ok, you can >choose a more private location for `.addressbook' in `~/.pinerc', but that >is not possible for `~/.pinerc'. As a workaround, I created the following >simple shell script and aliased pine to pine-secure: > >-------------------------------- >#!/usr/local/bin/tcsh ># /usr/local/bin/pine-secure >set default_umask=`umask` >umask 077 >/usr/local/bin/pine $* >umask $default_umask >unset default_umask >-------------------------------- Just a bit of shell-script nit-picking: You don't need to use some non-standard shell to do something this sipmle. You don't need to reset the mask and unset variables in a shell that's going to go away anyway. You don't even need the shell to hang around while pine is running. I'd suggest the following instead: #! /bin/sh # pine-secure -- run pine with a secure umask. umask 077 exec pine "$@" exit 5 # if exec fails, return an error - Logan -- Logan Shaw, Unix Systems Administrator "everybody / loves to see / justice done / on somebody else" (Bruce Cockburn) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 21:51:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA32692 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 21:51:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA13531 for pine-info-out; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 21:47:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA13527 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 21:47:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTiGA-00038BC; Fri, 29 Nov 96 21:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: toy@Glue.umd.edu (Thomas Yoon) Subject: How to add addresses??? Date: 29 Nov 1996 23:51:35 -0500 Message-ID: <57oegn$hdq@fiber.eng.umd.edu> Hi all. Can someone tell me how I can add address(s) to existing distribution list by using T (TakeAddr) command, so that I don't have to manually type in all the names and addresses? Much thanks in advance. -- _________________________________________________________________ Thomas Yoon toy@glue.umd.edu http://www.glue.umd.edu/~toy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:13:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA01150 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA15148 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:10:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from thymaster.interaccess.com (thymaster.interaccess.com [198.80.0.36]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA15141 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:09:56 -0800 Received: from milleniumfalcon (d104.nnb.interaccess.com [204.148.86.104]) by thymaster.interaccess.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id CAA11703 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 02:09:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 02:09:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611300809.CAA11703@thymaster.interaccess.com> From: Slippery Jim DiGriz X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe X-Mailer: Pronto Mail [ver 3.04 (1006)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 01:11:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA31990 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 01:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA14192 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 01:08:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA14188 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 01:08:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTlKu-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 01:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: automatic reply Date: 25 Nov 1996 12:19:11 GMT Message-ID: References: <329988A3.704A2E3A@hss.hns.com> On 24 Nov 1996 23:06:18 -0800, Bharath Kumar wrote: [You wrote ] Hi, [You wrote ] [You wrote ] I have a query. Suppose I am out-of-station I would like to send a reply to all the senders [You wrote ] the information that I'm out. [You wrote ] [You wrote ] So, can we send a message whenever we receive one using Pine. Hmm. You can use the 'vacation' command available on most Un*x systems... not sure how that would interact with Pine though. My guess is that it auto-replies to mail independent of Pine. i.e. as soon as you get mail in your INBOX, 'vacation' rushes off a reply to the sender while the mail still accumulates in your INBOX. --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 04:59:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA26755 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 04:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA16810 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 04:56:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbga.vsnl.net.in (giasbga.vsnl.net.in [202.54.12.161]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA16806 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 04:56:21 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbga.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA25814; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:25:38 +0530 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:25:37 +0530 (IST) From: "Rajani. V." X-Sender: rajani@giasbga To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: rajani@giasbga.vsnl.net.in Subject: information Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII DEAR SIR, I'AM A USER IN INDIA IN BANGALORE I AHVE GOT MY INTERNET CONNECTED I WANTED TO KNOW SOME INFORMATION ABOUT PIN SOFTWARE. HOPE YOU WOULD HELP ME OUT AS SOON AS SOON. MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS rajani@giasbga.vsnl.net.in please give me the info that 1) how do i attach my e-mail to internet so that i can post it? 2) how do i download any e-mail which has come to my computer? 3) how do i download or for the matter of any other files? 4) please tell me about telnet,lynx,ftp&kermit. i am having a student account thanking you, your's faithfully rajani (india) (bangalore) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 06:48:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA03313 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 06:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA19562 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 06:44:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA19557 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 06:43:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTqZT-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 06:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Hard sorting folders Date: 30 Nov 1996 14:20:30 GMT Message-ID: <57pfre$rg6@due.unit.no> References: In article , Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: >Pine's sort command, according to the documentation, sorts how the >folder is rendered in pine's display. It does not actually sort the >messages in the file. > >Are there tools to do this? I would particularly like to be able >to sort some of my local pine mailboxes. Yes, there is a wonderful tool called ;AAS (select all apply save.) Save it to another folder, and rename. Actually, I think you can even save to the same folder and then expunge the marked ones. You need to enable-aggregate-commands first. However, I have heard that this doesn't work over Imap, only on local folders. You might save to a local folder and then back, I guess. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:49:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA02719 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:49:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA20871 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:47:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from FNAL.FNAL.Gov (fnal.fnal.gov [131.225.110.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA20866 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:47:08 -0800 Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov ("port 50811"@dcdsv0.fnal.gov) by FNAL.FNAL.GOV (PMDF V5.0-5 #3998) id <01ICGD2418E4000GJJ@FNAL.FNAL.GOV> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:47:06 -0600 Received: from localhost (colossus@localhost) by dcdsv0.fnal.gov (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA09853 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:47:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:47:05 -0600 (CST) From: Mark B Colosia Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Authentication-warning: dcdsv0.fnal.gov: colossus owned process doing -bs unsubscribe colossus@fnal.gov From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:12:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA02782 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:12:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA22996 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:09:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA22992 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:09:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTxX7-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 14:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Keeping messages below 75 columns, please. Date: 30 Nov 1996 21:56:55 GMT Message-ID: <57qaj7$c10@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <32998539.499512B3@hss.hns.com> <57c6bj$7ug@news1.epix.net> Michael writes: >Hi John, >On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, John aka DearOldDad wrote: [...] >: > And while I'm on the soap box, people need to use proportional fonts >: > too. >: >: Why? Do ya wanna SHOUT? The whole exchange above is confusing. What do proportional fonts have to do with shouting? >: >It is my understanding that a proportional font merely means that the >letter "i" is the same width as the letter "w". So that 75 "i"'s would end >up on the same column as 75 "w"'s The above is serious, right? Proportional means that "i" is approximately 1/4 as wide as "w". The ones that are the same width for all chars are called "fixed-width". Get it? >This is useful if someone wants to point out something... > ^^^^^ >...so the carrots should be under the word "point". > >However, after further review, perhaps I should of said fixed-pitch font >instead? Maybe, but you have me so confused I am not sure >: > Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... >: >: What's a AMIGA ... That's like one of them supernintendos?? >: Again, is the person serious? Are there such newbies that they do not know what an Amiga is? >Where to begin? It is a computer that can run the PC OS, Mac OS, Unix OS, >etc and of course its own great OS. >It is a computer that had multitasking 10 years before the Microsloth's >Windows95. >I could go on, but.... >Thanks for the reply, >Michael (shotgun@best.com) >Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:37:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA07403 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA24881 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:34:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA24877 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:34:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTxxd-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 14:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Iso-8859-1 ...??? Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:18:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <57e9q2$92h@sugar.h.belgacom.be> <57i439$lhi@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Alan J. Flavell wrote (excerpt): > As far as I'm > concerned, DOS CP 850 and EBCDIC CECP1047 are valid encodings of > the Latin-1 repertoire. Naturally, I agree that they aren't ISO > standard codings of the Latin-1 repertoire, but I never claimed > that they were. I totally agree with you. However, with respect to Pine, a user will probably get more and better results by setting the character-set parameter in the configuration to ISO-8859-1 rather than to something else for Latin-1, because the former is probably in most common use. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:52:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA07564 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA23572 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:49:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA23568 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:49:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vTyDb-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 14:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean & Bill Subject: HP 682C won't print with Pine anymore Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: <32A0B175.3409@i-2000.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Until recently, I could always print from Pine by using the Y command. Lately, this command not only does not work, it freezes up the whole connection, and I have to log off. It is still set at "attached to ANSI", and no other settings were changed? Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Jeannie Aromi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:52:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA05191 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA23560 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:49:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA23556 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:49:43 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA09230; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:49:38 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:49:37 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Orjan Johansen cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hard sorting folders In-Reply-To: <57pfre$rg6@due.unit.no> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Ørjan, Aggregate operations, including save, certainly do work via IMAP. If you have any info on what's behind the rumor to the contrary, please let me know... -teg On 30 Nov 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > In article , > Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > >Pine's sort command, according to the documentation, sorts how the > >folder is rendered in pine's display. It does not actually sort the > >messages in the file. > > > >Are there tools to do this? I would particularly like to be able > >to sort some of my local pine mailboxes. > > Yes, there is a wonderful tool called ;AAS (select all apply save.) > Save it to another folder, and rename. Actually, I think you can even > save to the same folder and then expunge the marked ones. > > You need to enable-aggregate-commands first. > > However, I have heard that this doesn't work over Imap, only on local > folders. You might save to a local folder and then back, I guess. > > Greetings, > Ørjan. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:08:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA25607 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA26798 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:05:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA26793 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:05:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vU0IK-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 17:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "C. L. Choong" Subject: Re: Question: receive message problem Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 16:59:12 -0500 Message-ID: <32A0AE30.1828@unm.edu> References: <32A081C9.572E@unm.edu> <57qcvh$j8c@library.airnews.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Daniel: Following your suggestions, I've solved this problem ! Daniel, I'd like to give my so much thanks to you. Because this answer means a lots to me. Thank you Thanks again Choong Daniel Jacobson wrote: > > In article <32A081C9.572E@unm.edu>, ccleong@unm.edu says... > > > >I have one question, hope someone can help: > > > > I have a message need to send to 100 persons. I typed the 100 persons > >e-mails address into my "nickname" (address book) . > > > > when I send this message to the 100 persons, they receive this > >message, but the 100 persons name shown on e-mail message "to: " > >session. > > > > my question is: How can I solve this problem? --> I don't want the > >receiver see the 100 persons' names. because it is > >too long and make the screen mess. > > 1. use BCC: for the list with your E-Mail address in the TO: field > > 2. Upgrade to version 3.0 and you can also use the nickname in the TO: > field as long as you have entered a name on the INFO tab of > the address book. > (ie. Nickname: 'Newsletter', > Name field on INFO tab: 'News Subscribers' > then the list members will see 'News Subscribers' in the TO: field > on their incoming E-Mail message. > > Over and Out > Daniel Jacobson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:32:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA06921 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA25448 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:30:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA25444 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:30:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vU0gD-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 17:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Supressing a default header??? Date: 27 Nov 1996 23:43:50 GMT Message-ID: <57ijnm$fsg@due.unit.no> References: <329B546D.102A@pixelny.com> In article <329B546D.102A@pixelny.com>, Jonathen Scott & Jenifer West wrote: >I'd like to remove the header: > > Content-type: text/plain .... I don't think you really want to do that. What is the line you want to put instead? The charset is changed in Setup/Config character-set, not in customized-headers. If you want a different Content-type, well, that would severely mess up Pine's attachment system. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:11:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA08676 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA27585 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:09:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA27581; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:09:35 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA29975; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:09:25 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:09:25 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Orjan Johansen cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Hard sorting folders In-Reply-To: <199611302312.AAA14213@lie.matstat.unit.no> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Ahh yes; I forgot: The IMAP spec does not specify whether or not the order of message IDs in a COPY command must be preserved, so it is up to the server implementation. At the moment, the UW server optimizes the sequence of messages to be copied for best performance, rather than preserving the sort order. I'm not sure what other servers do. In the event that one is using an IMAP server that honors message ID order for COPY commands, there is actually a hidden option in Pine ("save-aggregates-imap-copy") to allow optimizing performance if the user is not interested in the copy order. Note that if the destination folder is on a *different* IMAP server, an APPEND command is used instead of COPY, and the sorted order would be preserved in that case. -teg On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > [Posted and mailed] > > In article , > Terry Gray wrote: > >Ørjan, > >Aggregate operations, including save, certainly do work via IMAP. > >If you have any info on what's behind the rumor to the contrary, > >please let me know... > > The rumor I heard (actually, it was a posting here in this group, you > might try DejaNews) is that while aggregate save works over IMAP, it > uses an IMAP command for this, which naturally does not know about pine's > internal ordering. So you cannot use it to physically reorder a folder, > as the original poster of this thread requested. > > Greetings, > Ørjan. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:08:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA09298 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA26526 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:05:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA26521 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:05:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vU2CC-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 19:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: 30 Nov 1996 22:07:50 GMT Message-ID: <57qb7m$cdu@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <329B36E3.4187@sparc1.castles.com> kenh@castles.com (Ken Hamidi) writes: >Hi, >I need to know if there is a sofware which can send multiple (1000's) >e-mails and the names do not show at the To: section. >Would you please help? Why should we? There are hardly any useful or legitimate reasons to send 1000's of copies of an email message. I hope you get the help you deserve. >Thanks, >Ken Hamidi -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:46:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA02931 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:46:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA26927 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:44:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA26923 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:44:54 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 1 Dec 1996 03:44:30 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) for id DAA17760; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 03:44:50 GMT Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 03:44:49 +0000 (GMT) From: LJ Pidcock To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" How do i talk i.e. have a real time chat? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 20:43:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA31539 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 20:43:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA29148 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 20:40:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA29138 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 20:40:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vU3gw-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 20:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: borchert@turing.mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Andreas Borchert) Subject: Re: ALERT: Solaris 2.5.1 locks up on TCP connections in Pine 3.9x Date: 29 Nov 1996 15:00:03 GMT Message-ID: <57mtpj$kgr@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de> References: <56uhi1$nj0$1@shade.twinsun.com> On 26 Nov 1996 10:24:07 +0100, Casper H.S. Dik wrote: > Mark Crispin writes: > > >2) The 0 byte read serves a purpose. On all systems except Solaris, it > > enables Pine to report a TCP/IP connection failure after doing a > > blocking select(). Otherwise, a failure to open the connection will > > not be detected until Pine tries to read data from the connection, and > > it will report the wrong message. > > It still is bad programming; the proper way to do a non-blocking connect is > to retry the connect you eitehr get an already connected error or > a timeout. There may be several ways to setup asynchronous connects but probably it is best to use the method that is suggested by the associated man pages -- in this case getsockopt(3N): SO_ERROR returns any pending error on the socket and clears the error status. It may be used to check for asynchronous errors on connected datagram sockets or for other asynchronous errors. This should work on all platforms which support BSD sockets. Andreas. -- Andreas Borchert, Universitaet Ulm, SAI, Helmholtzstr. 18, 89069 Ulm, Germany E-Mail: borchert@mathematik.uni-ulm.de WWW: http://www.mathematik.uni-ulm.de/sai/borchert/ PGP key available via ``finger borchert@laborix.mathematik.uni-ulm.de'' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:04:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA09857 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA27753 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:00:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA27749 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:00:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vU3y6-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 20:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Hard sorting folders Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 17:50:07 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine's sort command, according to the documentation, sorts how the folder is rendered in pine's display. It does not actually sort the messages in the file. Are there tools to do this? I would particularly like to be able to sort some of my local pine mailboxes. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:04:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA26422 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:04:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA29335 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:00:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA29324 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 20:59:55 -0800 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA15217; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 20:57:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 20:57:50 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Reply-To: Michael To: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs NX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Steve, On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: : On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Michael wrote: : [...] : > NX does not understand deleted files on the news server, so it loaded : > in all the articles that it found, even old one and pine does : > understand the differents. : : Unlikely. INN, the most prevalent news server, doesn't keep "deleted" : articles on the server, it deletes them. If an article's been cancelled, : the client never sees it. : Well, I don't know what to make of it then. If, as you say, the articles has be cancelled and it shouldn't be read by the NewsReader, then there is something screwy going on. 1400 messages is a big difference between two NewsReaders, reading the same NewsGroup at the same time, and with zero messages read previously. Oh well. : > - or - : > : > Since Pine is a memory/cpu hog, there is a cap that has been placed on : > Pine so that it can only hog... errr um :) ... fetch only so many articles. : : Doubtful, but possible, I suppose. : This turned out not to be the case since I was able to read all 32,000+ new articles in news.newusers.questions with PINE. NX crashed do to the fact that there was more the 16K worth of articles (16-bit NX bug; I should of remembered that before I started). : > ...Are we close? Is it something else? : : If you read other groups that have articles crossposted to this new group : you read, perhaps Pine is smart enough to recognize articles that you've : already seen in other groups. : That I know for sure doesn't work in PINE or NX, I wish, but sadly no they don't do that. On a side note: Do you know if it is normal for the default composer (PICO) to have trouble justifying a line once the message has been postponed? It seems it loses track of the character used for quoting (reply-indent-string = : in my case) and justifies the hole line missing the point of what the reply-indent-string is for. This DOESN'T happen if I do the same thing to the original message before a postpone, only after the message was postponed. Do you think that PICO has the problem, do to PINE not relaying the information correctly? Or is it PINE not giving the information to PICO? Or is it that PINE is trying to give the information to PICO, but PICO doesn't understand? Only when a message is postponed does this problem occur. Thanks for the reply. Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 23:26:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA10469 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 23:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA01002 for pine-info-out; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 23:21:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA00997 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 1996 23:21:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vU6C1-00038BC; Sat, 30 Nov 96 23:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Iso-8859-1 ...??? In-Reply-To: <57i439$lhi@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: <57e9q2$92h@sugar.h.belgacom.be> <57i439$lhi@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:27:27 GMT On 27 Nov 1996, Georg Schwarz wrote: > "Alan J. Flavell" writes: > > >That's also my interpretation. The term Latin-1 designates a repertoire > >of characters, without particular reference to their assignment to a > >character code. One could refer to DOS CP850, and EBCDIC CECP1047, as > >Latin-1 codes, but they certainly aren't ISO-8859-1 !! ISO-8859-1 is > >the specific ISO code that is defined for the Latin-1 character > >repertoire. > > Latin-X or ISO-Latin-X is just an unofficial term for ISO-8859-X. That isn't helpful. Either provide authoritative references, or accept the fact that unofficial usage is unofficial. As far as I'm concerned, DOS CP 850 and EBCDIC CECP1047 are valid encodings of the Latin-1 repertoire. Naturally, I agree that they aren't ISO standard codings of the Latin-1 repertoire, but I never claimed that they were. Else I'll set my erstwhile usergroup ISO representative on you. He's a Quebecois, and even the French know better than to tangle with a Quebecois ISO delegate... cheers