From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 15:45:17 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:45:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA29870; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA17746; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:45:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA33440; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:43:20 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA91326 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:15:51 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA23823 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:15:51 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA16730; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:15:50 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA24256; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:15:44 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA113812 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:49:04 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA16040 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:49:04 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA32280 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:49:04 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (D-128-95-135-159.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.159]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA29629 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:49:04 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:49:04 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.33 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-IMAPbase: 984450148 172 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.33. This release introduces no new functionality, but is intended to address bugs found in earlier versions. Specific information can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), and via: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/ Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm433w32.zip As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing Pine into production use. The Pine Development Team -- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 17:23:13 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:23:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA09211; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:23:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA21134; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:23:11 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA23840; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:22:49 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA77594 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:14:40 -0800 Received: from bom8.vsnl.net.in (bom8.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.125]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA22388 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:14:39 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.59.201]) by bom8.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD635F20 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:38:54 +0500 (GMT+0500) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA03549 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:40:20 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:40:20 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine v/s *BSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 A few months ago, there was a discussion here about one of the BSDs rejecting Pine due to security vulnerabilities from strcpy(?). Which BSD was it? Was the vulnerability real? If so, has it been fixed? Where's the list archive? -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see He's dead Jim! You get his phaser, I got his wallet. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 17:36:51 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:36:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA10517; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA21545; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:36:50 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA18284; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:36:18 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA160724 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:33:12 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA56562; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:33:05 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:33:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine v/s *BSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Satya wrote: > Where's the list archive? That one's easy. Here's the .sig that the list processor attaches to all posts to this mailing list: > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 17:49:18 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:49:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA21854; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA10102; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:49:16 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA17298; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:48:52 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA64902 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:46:21 -0800 Received: from isr5429.urh.uiuc.edu (qmailr@isr5429.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.209.169]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA27899 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:46:21 -0800 Received: (qmail 928 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Feb 2001 01:46:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Feb 2001 01:46:20 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:46:20 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frank Tobin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine v/s *BSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 Satya, at 06:40 +0530 on Fri, 2 Feb 2001, wrote: Which BSD was it? Was the vulnerability real? If so, has it been fixed? FreeBSD has decided not not entirely disable Pine, but it issues a strong warning and prompts the user before going ahead and installing Pine. -- Frank Tobin http://www.uiuc.edu/~ftobin/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 19:45:51 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:45:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id TAA13500; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA24196; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:45:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA32920; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:45:14 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA69910 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:44:22 -0800 Received: from fgh.geac.com.au ([203.32.189.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA11173 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:44:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by fgh.geac.com.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f123gCc04039 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:42:12 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:42:12 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dave Horsfall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine v/s *BSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion List X-Authentication-Warning: fgh.au.geac.com: dave owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-No-Archive: Yes X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" X-Witty-Saying: "Mobius Strip - See other side for instructions" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5 On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Frank Tobin wrote: > > Which BSD was it? Was the vulnerability real? If so, has it been fixed? > > FreeBSD has decided not not entirely disable Pine, but it issues a strong > warning and prompts the user before going ahead and installing Pine. OpenBSD, as I recall, will not use it, due to many strcpy() calls. -- Dave Horsfall CL VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: * 9978-7490 Geac Computers P/L (ERP Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 05:27:56 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:27:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id FAA13421; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA02523; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:27:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA27538; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:27:17 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA25920 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:26:05 -0800 Received: from pop3free.com (sense-rickd-200.oz.net [216.39.161.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA22643 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:26:05 -0800 Received: from graciela.gpirujo.com by pop3free.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 05:24:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (gpirujo@localhost) by graciela.gpirujo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00967 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:16:29 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:16:29 -0300 (ART) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Guillermo Pereyra Irujo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bzip2 format for pine binaries in uw ftp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: X-Return-Path: gpirujo@pop3free.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 żIs there any reason for not using (also) bzip2-format compression in ftp.washington.edu when making available new releases of pine? I think this format is quite spreaded and many people will be grateful if it is used. -- Guillermo Pereyra Irujo mailto:gpirujo@bigfoot.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 05:28:40 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:28:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id FAA06985; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA23702; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:28:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA22074; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:28:00 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA97336 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:26:05 -0800 Received: from pop3free.com (sense-rickd-200.oz.net [216.39.161.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA22644 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:26:05 -0800 Received: from graciela.gpirujo.com by pop3free.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 05:24:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (gpirujo@localhost) by graciela.gpirujo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00965 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:12:24 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:12:24 -0300 (ART) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Guillermo Pereyra Irujo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: New pico and pilot with new pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: X-Return-Path: gpirujo@pop3free.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 I have seen several new-pine-release announces and no new-pico-release or new-pilot-release ones, but pico and pilot files' timestamps are always the same as pine file's. żDoes a new release of pine imply new ones of pilot and pico? Every time I download a new pine I don't know whether to download also pico and pilot or not. Thank you. -- Guillermo Pereyra Irujo mailto:gpirujo@bigfoot.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 09:44:34 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:44:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA09231; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA30173; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:44:32 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA27374; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:43:25 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA76430 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:42:23 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA28392 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:42:23 -0800 Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA02388; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:42:23 -0800 Received: from jfranklin_ndc.nebula.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.1+UW00.11/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f12HgMD15614; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:42:22 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:42:19 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New pico and pilot with new pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jpf@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Guillermo Pereyra Irujo wrote: > I have seen several new-pine-release announces and no new-pico-release or > new-pilot-release ones, but pico and pilot files' timestamps are always > the same as pine file's. > > Does a new release of pine imply new ones of pilot and pico? Every time I > download a new pine I don't know whether to download also pico and pilot > or not. The only thing that implies a version change in pico is if the pico version number changes. If pico changes at all when we release a new version of pine, then pico gets a new version. There were no changes in pico between pine release 4.32 and 4.33, so the pico version (4.0) stayed the same. Jeff -- Jeff Franklin Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 11:10:07 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:10:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id LAA28223; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA12121; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:10:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA27744; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:09:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA64976 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:06:58 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA17223 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:06:57 -0800 Received: (qmail 528 invoked by uid 1828); 2 Feb 2001 19:06:57 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:06:57 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Couple of questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 1) Is there a way I can get pine to re-ask me the "move sent-mail" question? I know I have a workaround (manually rename it and make a new sent mail folder) so it's no big deal. I *know* I read personal mail yesterday but I must have said no then.. and pine was upgraded, so I was asked again(??).. And I looked in my sent-mail folder and it IS all of January.. 2) I had a setscores and a score-based filter that weren't previously working (I don't know why). I guess fortunately, they kicked in this morning and my attempted spam filter moved ~1500 messages into my suspected spam folder. (I have since changed the filter to be *NEW* messages only, and will of course add new mailing lists to my list of acceptable To headers as I run into them..) ANYWAY.. So I went to my suspected spam folder, selected everything, and saved it all to INBOX.. fine.. But now my INBOX can't be reliably sorted in Arrival order. Is there a workaround to get "arrival" back to approx date order, then I can view INBOX by arrival again? I'm not sure if 'Save' saves the items in the order they are shown to the user. If so, then I *think* I can: 1) create a new temporary mailbox 2) sort INBOX by date 3) select all in inbox 4) save all to temporary mailbox 5) select all in temporary mailbox 6) save all to INBOX (I'm guessing that IMAP won't just let me RENAME the temporary mailbox to INBOX, and that sounds more dangerous to what I'm trying to do anyway.. in case mail comes in in the meantime or something..) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 11:55:15 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:55:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id LAA13425; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA02602; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:55:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA29618; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:53:52 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA47102 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:48:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA75516; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:48:46 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:48:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Couple of questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote: > Is there a workaround to get "arrival" back to approx date order, then > I can view INBOX by arrival again? > > I'm not sure if 'Save' saves the items in the order they are shown to the > user. > > If so, then I *think* I can: > > 1) create a new temporary mailbox > 2) sort INBOX by date > 3) select all in inbox > 4) save all to temporary mailbox > 5) select all in temporary mailbox > 6) save all to INBOX Yep, you can do that. But you don't even have to worry about the temporary mailbox. Just sort by date, select all, and save them back to the Inbox. From then on, the "arrival" sort will be the same as the date sort (except for mail that comes in after you do this). -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 12:13:07 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:13:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA04549; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA14575; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:13:04 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA30262; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:12:24 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA23612 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:11:31 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA30673 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:11:30 -0800 Received: (qmail 18699 invoked by uid 1828); 2 Feb 2001 20:11:30 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:11:30 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Couple of questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote: >On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote: > >> Is there a workaround to get "arrival" back to approx date order, then >> I can view INBOX by arrival again? ... >Yep, you can do that. But you don't even have to worry about the >temporary mailbox. Just sort by date, select all, and save them back to >the Inbox. From then on, the "arrival" sort will be the same as the date >sort (except for mail that comes in after you do this). Just as a warning. This takes a VERY VERY long time (I have over 2000 messages in my mailbox) *AND* you end up with a duplicated deleted message for each message.. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 12:29:42 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:29:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA25519; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA15066; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:29:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA23178; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:29:03 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA126584 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:27:51 -0800 Received: from gnosis.tc.fluke.com (gnosis.tc.fluke.com [129.196.128.63]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA03147 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:27:51 -0800 Received: from evtvir02.tc.fluke.com (evtvir02.tc.fluke.com [129.196.184.22]) by gnosis.tc.fluke.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14397 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:27:51 -0800 Received: FROM dd BY evtvir02.tc.fluke.com ; Fri Feb 02 12:21:46 2001 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:27:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Couple of questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote: > >Yep, you can do that. But you don't even have to worry about the > >temporary mailbox. Just sort by date, select all, and save them back to > >the Inbox. From then on, the "arrival" sort will be the same as the date > >sort (except for mail that comes in after you do this). > > Just as a warning. > > This takes a VERY VERY long time (I have over 2000 messages in my mailbox) > *AND* you end up with a duplicated deleted message for each message.. This was a good trick, (I also have used the temporary file method) but another note to remember is that both the direct save, and the temporary file methods also change the "From " line. I just tried with the message Matt sent and it changed from: >From PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 12:13:16 2001 to >From dcd@tc.fluke.com Fri Feb 2 12:13:16 2001 -0800 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 13:10:01 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:10:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA11585; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA16209; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:09:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA24122; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:08:52 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA159046 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:56:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA67364; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:56:07 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:56:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Couple of questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David Dyck X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, David Dyck wrote: > This was a good trick, (I also have used the temporary file method) > but another note to remember is that both the direct save, and > the temporary file methods also change the "From " line. > > I just tried with the message Matt sent and it changed from: > > >From PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 12:13:16 2001 > to > >From dcd@tc.fluke.com Fri Feb 2 12:13:16 2001 -0800 That shouldn't matter, really. Those lines are only used to seperate messages. What matters in Pine and other MUAs is the From: and Date: lines, which are unaffected by an IMAP save. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 13:41:32 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:41:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id NAA11596; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA06037; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:41:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA10528; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:37:48 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA39956 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:36:09 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA22549; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:36:08 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA106798; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:36:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:36:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Couple of questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 *** Scott Leibrand (leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu) wrote in the pine-info...: :) On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, David Dyck wrote: :) :) > This was a good trick, (I also have used the temporary file method) :) > but another note to remember is that both the direct save, and :) > the temporary file methods also change the "From " line. :) > :) > I just tried with the message Matt sent and it changed from: :) > :) > >From PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 12:13:16 2001 :) > to :) > >From dcd@tc.fluke.com Fri Feb 2 12:13:16 2001 -0800 :) :) That shouldn't matter, really. Those lines are only used to seperate :) messages. What matters in Pine and other MUAs is the From: and Date: :) lines, which are unaffected by an IMAP save. That does not matter for Pine, some other people have complained that UW-IMAP server changes the from line and other (old) mailers (e.g. unix program "mailx") rely on the e-mail address contained in that line (this issue came out before in this mailing list, and the problem was that UW-IMAP server made this change, eg: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/2000.11/msg00030.html). It's not an issue if you just use Pine or some other modern mailer, so I guess those people will always be ignored and have the same problem. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 17:28:20 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:28:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA16435; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA12639; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:28:17 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA35020; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:27:46 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA106804 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:25:49 -0800 Received: from bom8.vsnl.net.in (bom8.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.125]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA31202 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:25:45 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.58.30]) by bom8.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE8C7CB6 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:49:54 +0500 (GMT+0500) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA02912 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:55:12 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:55:12 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine v/s *BSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 15 On Feb 1, 2001 at 17:33, Scott Leibrand wrote: >On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Satya wrote: >> Where's the list archive? > >That one's easy. Here's the .sig that the list processor attaches to all >posts to this mailing list: [snip sig, I got it in the post] That's weird. I don't seem to be getting it as part of the list procesor output. I mean, the one you quoted was there. The one that the listproc attaches wasn't there. It's not on any other message, either. -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see But I thought you did the backups! From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 06:32:21 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:32:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id GAA00542 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 03 06:32:19 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA05676; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:32:18 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA27676; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:31:42 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA123698 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:30:14 -0800 Received: from smtp02.hk.linkage.net (smtp02.hk.linkage.net [202.76.4.21]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA23330 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:30:12 -0800 Received: from backup.spnetctg.com (mail.spnetctg.com [210.184.28.8]) by smtp02.hk.linkage.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f13EVLq02858 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:31:26 +0800 (HKT) Received: (qmail 21016 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 02:55:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spnetctg.com) (210.184.28.214) by mail.spnetctg.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 02:55:35 -0000 Message-Id: <3A7C1655.97018988@spnetctg.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 20:31:49 +0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satyajit Das To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: delete message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: satyajit@smtp02.hk.linkage.net X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 16 I use pine-4.21 . when I delete all message from Inbox, where are deleted message store ? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 07:48:20 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:48:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA29861 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:48:19 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 03 07:48:18 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA06856; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:48:17 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA32692; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:47:50 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA123854 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:45:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA11172; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:45:13 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:45:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: delete message In-Reply-To: <3A7C1655.97018988@spnetctg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satyajit Das X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 17 On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Satyajit Das wrote: > I use pine-4.21 . when I delete all message from Inbox, where are > deleted message store ? When you first delete a message in Pine, it's marked with a "D"eleted flag. After you e"X"punge, though, the messages are gone for good. There's no "trash can" or "recycle bin" where they're stored. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 07:54:40 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:54:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA16535 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:54:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 03 07:54:37 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA27826; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:54:36 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA16172; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:54:12 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA45008 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:52:16 -0800 Received: from a1.ipcc.com (ns1.ipcc.com [207.247.25.136]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA24378 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:52:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (eds@localhost) by a1.ipcc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA06075 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:52:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:52:14 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Edward D. Silver" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 4.21 vs. higher? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 18 I use Compaq Tru64 Unix running pine 4.21. I run pine from the /usr/local/bin directory as myself, but I've got a sym-link to my saved mail directory on a different drive. It looks like this. mail -> /disk5/eds/mail In v4.21 and lower saving mail in folders in that directory works fine, but in any version higher than that the save takes forever, to the point where that version just won't work for me. I'm assuming its the sym like that is causing problems, but my sysadmin won't let me have enough room in my home directory to store 6 years of mail. Any advice is appreciated. -Ed Silver -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 09:40:36 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:40:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA31199 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 03 09:40:33 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA08680; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:40:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA08050; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:40:02 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA90152 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:39:16 -0800 Received: from bom8.vsnl.net.in (bom8.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.125]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA02032 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:39:15 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.59.52]) by bom8.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4DC58AB for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:03:32 +0500 (GMT+0500) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA01092 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:32:56 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:32:56 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: delete message In-Reply-To: <3A7C1655.97018988@spnetctg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 19 On Feb 3, 2001 at 20:31, Satyajit Das wrote: >I use pine-4.21 . >when I delete all message from Inbox, where are deleted message >store ? Messages are marked as deleted when you hit D)elete. They are not removed. You can U)ndelete them using 'u'. When you e(X)punge, the messages which are marked as deleted are completely removed. -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 23:19:18 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:19:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id XAA29288 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 03 23:19:15 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA10060; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:19:14 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA04532; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:18:37 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA90184 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:15:51 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA19622 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:15:50 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 01:15:44 -0600 Received: from misty.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:15:40 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:14:58 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: 4.21 vs. higher? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Edward D. Silver" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 20 Ed > I use Compaq Tru64 Unix running pine 4.21. I run pine from the > /usr/local/bin directory as myself, but I've got a sym-link to my saved > mail directory on a different drive. > > It looks like this. > > mail -> /disk5/eds/mail > > In v4.21 and lower saving mail in folders in that directory works fine, > but in any version higher than that the save takes forever, to the point > where that version just won't work for me. > > I'm assuming its the sym like that is causing problems, but my sysadmin > won't let me have enough room in my home directory to store 6 years of > mail. > > Any advice is appreciated. Get yourself a CD-RW and put your archived emails there. You did say "any advice"..... :-) Ed From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:40:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id DAA27262 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 04 03:40:39 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA26185; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:40:38 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id DAA08034; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:40:17 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id DAA142064 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:38:15 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA24616 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:38:15 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp129002.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.121]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11123; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:33:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f14Bc9827922; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 06:38:09 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 06:38:07 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine v/s *BSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 21 On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Satya wrote: >Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:55:12 +0530 (IST) >From: Satya >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: Re: Pine v/s *BSD > >On Feb 1, 2001 at 17:33, Scott Leibrand wrote: > >>On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Satya wrote: >>> Where's the list archive? >> >>That one's easy. Here's the .sig that the list processor attaches to all >>posts to this mailing list: > >[snip sig, I got it in the post] > >That's weird. I don't seem to be getting it as part of the list procesor >output. I mean, the one you quoted was there. The one that the listproc >attaches wasn't there. It's not on any other message, either. > >-- >Satya. >US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see >But I thought you did the backups! > I do not receive any such list footer either. Above is the entire contents of the message I received. ie: No footer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Emacs is my operating system, and Linux its device driver. -- Bake Timmons From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:20:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA26690 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 04 05:20:24 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA16540; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:20:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA22568; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:20:01 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA72888 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:19:15 -0800 Received: from web01.webonline.no (web01.webonline.no [213.188.1.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA01216 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:19:13 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.7] [193.216.210.121] by web01.webonline.no with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.08) id A7463F360170; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:21:10 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:23:16 +0100 (Sentral-Europa (normaltid)) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Lost attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: atle@weibell.no@mail.weibell.no X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 22 Hello, I think I've forgot to inform the list readers about this, but the Pine developers found my problem to be caused by the way the my ISPs IMAP server handles this. The server software used is IMail, and my ISP says they will contact their vendor about this. Meanwhile I suppose I'll just have to manage without attachments... or look Out for another mail client... In Pine 4.33 the error message [Message to save shrank] is back, so the attachments won't get disappear from the INBOX unless I delete them myself. Regards, Atle Weibell On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Bruce Cohen wrote: > Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:27:00 +0100 (MET) > From: Bruce Cohen > To: Atle Weibell , atle@weibell.no > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , > Jeff Franklin , PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu, > Steve Hubert > Subject: Re: Lost attachments > > > Atle, > > Have you tried turning on long headers in Pine? I have had similar things > happen to msgs - especially once they are saved to folders. Most of the > time everything is still there, only Pine sees it all as part of the > header. > > Maybe if the people on the development team would finally concentrate on > getting "long headers" really solved we would all have a lot less > problems! > > > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Atle Weibell wrote: > > > Hello, > > I've been using a web-interface for my mail for a long time, due to > travelling and waiting for phone-line to be installed in my apartment. > > Now I had 200+ msg in my inbox, and opened it in Pine 4.31. I exited, > saving all read messages to a local folder automatically. When I look at > the messages in the local folder, it seems like all attachments are just > gone...? Or actually it seems like all msgs that did have attachments > now just have the headers left. The body and attachments are just not > there...?? > > I suppose they are gone forever, and that's bad enough, but why did this > happen?? > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:44:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA15842 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 04 09:44:41 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA32525; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:44:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA20812; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:44:14 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA115714 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:43:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA34218 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:42:58 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:42:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine v/s *BSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 23 On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Satya wrote: > > >That's weird. I don't seem to be getting it as part of the list procesor > >output. I mean, the one you quoted was there. The one that the listproc > >attaches wasn't there. It's not on any other message, either. > > I do not receive any such list footer either. Above is the > entire contents of the message I received. ie: No footer. It only shows up on new posts, not on replies. Check to see if you get it then... -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:50:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA31491 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:50:11 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 05 00:50:10 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA15125; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:50:09 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA17558; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:49:20 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA102052 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:47:14 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA23554; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:47:13 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp129002.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.121]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA14099; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 02:42:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f158l4Q32072; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:47:04 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:47:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Question about Makefile change.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 24 Why was imap/src/osdep/unix/Makefile in PINE 4.32 changed from: # Normally no need to change any of these ARCHIVE=c-client.a BINARIES=mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o osdep.o utf8.o siglocal.o \ dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o \ rfc822.o nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o \ unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o CFLAGS=$(BASECFLAGS) $(EXTRACFLAGS) to the following in PINE 4.33? # Normally no need to change any of these ARCHIVE=c-client.a BINARIES=mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o osdep.o utf8.o siglocal.o \ dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o \ rfc822.o nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o \ unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o CFLAGS=-g IOW, why the "-g" instead of "$(BASECFLAGS) $(EXTRACFLAGS)"? Looks like just some debugging cruft that got left in. Recommendation: don't edit makefiles with local changes while developing. ;o) I only found it because it causes a patch to fail, so I was wondering why the change is there. No big deal though, just wanted to point it out to you guys, so it can get fixed next time around. I shall work around it in RPM. Take care, TTYL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck, is probably the day Microsoft starts making vacuum cleaners. -- Ernst Jan Plugge -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:22:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA13957 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 05 11:22:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA30294; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:22:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA25548; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:21:40 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA77658 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:15:29 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA30023 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:15:28 -0800 Received: (qmail 8777 invoked by uid 1828); 5 Feb 2001 19:15:28 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:15:28 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Setscrores / filter questions / munging MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 25 Hmm, I'm now on 4.33.. I've got a few problems that I'm seeing, and while they're probably answered in the online help I sure am not seeing it. 1) In a SetScores rule, does it *and* the separate header lines? I realize that it *ORs* multiple items in a specific header line.. i.e. ANY of the items in a To header line matches means the rule matches.. But if I fill in items in To and CC, I guess it has to match BOTH to be a match? I guess that's an obvious question now, but with the "simplicity" of pine's filters, it wasn't completely obvious at first. 1a) It would be great if there were an easier way to copy a whole ton of items from a To line to a CC line.. I realized sometimes people respond to a person and CC the mailing list.. so I was getting some wrong suspected spam. But I guess I *really* have to make one rule that matches To, one rule that matches CC, and somehow copy all of the items from the one To to the other's CC. 2) Today, filters are doing something weird to my messages, like duplicating the headers in them. Or maybe it's my manual saving back to INBOX. I'm getting a whole set of headers that are shown when I do NOT have show all headers.. (then showing headers of course shows the full headers on the message too.) For several messages, I ended up with blank subject lines.. I think they were being re-filtered after I saved them back into INBOX and getting munged multiple times. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:01:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA25057 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 05 13:01:06 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA01097; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:01:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA16954; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:00:22 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA21898 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:58:49 -0800 Received: from haystack.lclark.edu (haystack.lclark.edu [149.175.1.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA23212 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:58:48 -0800 Received: from haystack (haystack [149.175.1.2]) by haystack.lclark.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29276 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:58:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:58:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kevin Carnes To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Japanese JIS ISO-2022-JP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 26 I'm trying to setup my pine to be able to send e-mail in Japanese, but since JIS is 7-bit, I can't get pine to set the content-type to ISO-2022-JP without typing some random 8-bit character to get it to realize the message is in another character-set. Is there any way to get it to realize it's another character-set without using 8-bit characters? Thanks so much, Kevin Carnes -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:00:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA24759 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 05 14:00:17 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA23511; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:00:16 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA22908; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:59:47 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA76342 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:58:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA41176; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:58:44 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:58:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setscrores / filter questions / munging In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 27 On 02/05/01 at 11:15am -0800, Matt Ackeret wrote: > But I guess I *really* have to make one rule that matches To, one rule that > matches CC, and somehow copy all of the items from the one To to the other's > CC. Nope, there's an easier way. Instead of using To: or Cc:, use the Recip pattern: Recipient Pattern Explained This is just like the "To pattern" except that it is compared with the addresses from both the To: line and the Cc: line of the message instead of just the addresses from the To: line. In other words, it is considered a match if the pattern matches EITHER an address in the To: line OR an address in the Cc: line. (Notice that defining the Recipient pattern does not have the same effect as defining both the To and Cc patterns. Recipient is To OR Cc; not To AND Cc. It is equivalent to having two different rules; one with a To pattern and the other with the same Cc pattern.) -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:14:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA21748 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 05 14:14:39 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA03806; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:14:39 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA14646; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:13:10 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA51222 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:02:07 -0800 Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA06464 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:00:48 -0800 Received: from mum.cs.sc.edu (mum.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.144]) by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06727 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:00:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost) by mum.cs.sc.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA08160 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:00:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:00:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setscrores / filter questions / munging In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-info Mailing List X-Authentication-Warning: mum.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 28 On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote: > 1a) It would be great if there were an easier way to copy a whole ton of items > from a To line to a CC line. Use the "Recip Pattern" instead, which matches To:, or Cc: If you put something in multiple pattern fields, ALL FIELDS must match for it to be considered a candidate. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:53:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA13816 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 05 15:53:25 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA07109; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:53:17 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA28340; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:52:36 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA72936 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:50:52 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA16446 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:50:51 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:50:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:50:41 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:50:41 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Japanese JIS ISO-2022-JP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kevin Carnes X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 29 On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Kevin Carnes wrote: > I'm trying to setup my pine to be able to send e-mail in Japanese, but > since JIS is 7-bit, I can't get pine to set the content-type to > ISO-2022-JP without typing some random 8-bit character to get it to > realize the message is in another character-set. Is there any way to get > it to realize it's another character-set without using 8-bit characters? Good point.... Don't have a "fix". But a work-around would be to use a signature that includes the 8bit characters to save you the time. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager Syntegra Asia Region From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:57:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA27355 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:57:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 05 19:57:05 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA00866; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:57:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA18802; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:56:40 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA83898 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:55:08 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA13769 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:55:07 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp111126.sympatico.ca [216.209.120.25]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19058 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:50:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f163swk05806 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:54:58 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:54:57 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 30 I'd like to set up PINE so that it looks for aspell, and if it doesn't find it, it gracefully falls back to ispell. I've tried various things to no avail so far. Here is my latest non-working effort. speller=_TEST("test -e /usr/bin/aspell")_ /usr/bin/aspell --mode=email check, _TEST("test -e /usr/bin/ispell")_ /usr/bin/ispell The above doesn't work. Nor does: speller=_TEST("test -e /usr/bin/aspell")_ /usr/bin/aspell --mode=email, _TEST("test -e /usr/bin/ispell")_ /usr/bin/ispell I've followed the syntax of how the browsers are fired off which seems to work: # List of programs to open Internet URLs (e.g. http or ftp references). url-viewers=_TEST("test -e /usr/bin/netscape -a -n '${DISPLAY}'")_ /usr/bin/netscape, _TEST("test -e /usr/bin/lynx")_ /usr/bin/lynx but it doesn't seem to work with 'speller'. I'm assuming I need some token in there or something.. If there is no simple solution, I'll make a shell script called "pine-spellcheck" which wraps up various spell checkers. Actually, this might simplify it the most. Any suggestions? Please respond ASAP. Thanks, TTYL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "A Firewall is really much like a sophisticated traffic cop; it detects and stops unauthorized or suspicious movement in or out of the network. But security is more than a Firewall; it's a process. You can't just put in a Firewall and think you're secure." -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:20:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id BAA27508 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 01:20:01 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA19739; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:20:00 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA28318; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:17:57 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA44752 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:22:21 -0800 Received: from moose.erie.net (moose.erie.net [208.138.204.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA15310 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:22:21 -0800 Received: from dsl282.erie.net (dsl282.erie.net [63.160.33.81]) by moose.erie.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f168MIb27009 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 03:22:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 03:22:11 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Hermit To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 31 I am a regular Linux user (RH distro), but on occasion I use Windows. I am familiar with Pine as I use it in Linux for some time now. I decided to d/l and install PC Pine, but I have been experiencing a glitch. Upon opening Pine, I get a message: *permission denied: mail* then that particular line changes to: no folder opened. I have *inbox* as my mail folder - just like I have in the Linux version. I can get messages from newsgroups just fine. It makes me want to think this is a password issue (mail), but I cannot remember entering a password in the Linux version, nor can I find anything regarding this issue in the *help* secton, or entry fields in the *configure* section. Anyone have a clue as to why I am experiencing this problem? A solution? Thanks to all, Dick Williams -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:42:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id BAA03354 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 01:42:05 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA07544; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:42:04 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA22102; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:40:18 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA104198 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:27:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA33960; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:26:58 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:26:57 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC Pine problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Hermit X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 32 On 02/06/01 at 3:22am -0500, Hermit wrote: > Upon opening PC-Pine, I get a message: *permission denied: mail* then > that particular line changes to: no folder opened. > > I have *inbox* as my mail folder - just like I have in the Linux > version. This leads me to believe there's something wrong with your inbox-path in PC-Pine's Main, Setup, Config. It should be in the form {your.imap.server}INBOX if you're accessing your mail via IMAP. If that doesn't fix it, or you can't figure out what to put there, answer these questions: - Where is your e-mail located? On your Linux box? On an ISP or EDU mail server? - How do you normally access your e-mail from the Linux box? Locally (direct file access), via IMAP, or POP3? If you don't know, tell me what the inbox path is on your Linux box. - Are the necessary services running on the computer where your mail is located to allow you to access it from the PC? If not, you may need to install or activate the IMAP daemon to get acccess to your mail from another computer. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:33:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA29074 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 02:33:28 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA08463; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:33:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA20520; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:33:12 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id CAA44410 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:31:47 -0800 Received: from mat.uniroma1.it (mercurio.mat.uniroma1.it [151.100.50.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA32097 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:31:42 -0800 Received: from giove.mat.uniroma1.it (giove.mat.uniroma1.it [151.100.50.7]) by mat.uniroma1.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21706 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:30:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (piacitel@localhost) by giove.mat.uniroma1.it (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26927 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:33:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:33:19 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gherardo Piacitelli To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: CRAM-MD5 In-Reply-To: <200102060956.BAA17032@list2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: giove.mat.uniroma1.it: piacitel owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 33 Hi, I'm a pine user since years, but not an expert programmer. Nowadays I use pine 4.05 on an toshiba satellite 4090XCDT, with Linux Red-Hat 6.02, to connect to the pop3 server of a commercial provider. Everything worked nearly fine for one year and up to some weeks ago (but some problems with locks); from since, my password has not been accepeted any more. The pine error message is: "Retrying CRAM-MD5 after invalid user or password". Now: 0) user and password are correct (they work fine in the netmail) 1) Apparently nothing changed in the configuration of my machine/account/pine 2) the .pinerc entry reads {pop.tiscalinet.it/user=matusagaio/pop3}inbox and matches the corresponding entry when displayed with the pine's Setup/config. 3) I tried the same on the pine on the SUN at the department, it worked fine, so it's on my side, not the remote server side. 4) I configured (since the very beginning) my folders as follows: I have a logical fat32 disk which I mount in my home ( Linux native) directory. The directory containing the subfolders (not the root mail folders) is shared by pine and the pc-pine living in the Windows side, so that I can access my folders from both OS's. Now, also the pc-pine behaves the same way: "Retrying CRAM-MD5...". This I really cannot understand: the configuration of the two pines are completely unrelated, they only share the physical folders. But the INBOX is a virtual folder, has nothing to do with physical folders. Please help me to sort this out! G. Gherardo Piacitelli Dipartimento di Matematica Pura ed Applicata, Universita` di Padova Personal Homepage: http://www.math.unipd.it/~piacitel Join ADI (Ass.ne Dottor(and)i Italiani): http://www.dottorato.it -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:16:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA06519 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 04:15:59 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA23241; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:15:55 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA18896; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:15:39 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA77674 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:14:11 -0800 Received: from shell13.ba.best.com (root@shell13.ba.best.com [206.184.139.144]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA08537 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:14:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (root@shell13.ba.best.com [206.184.139.144]) by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id EAA10222 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:13:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:19:44 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC Pine problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@akket.pair.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 34 You might also want to look at my PC-Pine page where I go into excruciating detail about setting up PC-Pine. The part that is relevant to your question is in this section: http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#setPineVars Good luck, ^X, Nancy -- For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink =-- Sent via PINE 4.33: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix --= From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:38:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA02543 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 05:38:23 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA24754; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:38:20 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA29220; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:38:04 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA77592 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:37:03 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA08293 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:37:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28058 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:36:58 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:36:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: A Pine wibni MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 35 This may actually already be possible and I just don't know how to do it ... but I'd really find a refresh function in the inbox when you have messages sorted, selected and zoomed _very_ useful. I subscribe to lots of lists and generally selectlist to messages from each individual list to read as a group. I then sort these by subject and the selected messages remain zoomed till I'm done. What I'd like is to be able to issue a command that would refresh the zoomed display with any new messages that have come in from that particular list, maintaining the sort order I've chosen. As it is now, I have to deselect everything, then re-select for the list I'm interested in. -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:04:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA29964 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:04:47 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 10:04:45 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA32331; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:04:45 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA33614; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:03:58 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA44420 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:01:50 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA28996 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:01:49 -0800 Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA25533; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:01:49 -0800 Received: from jfranklin_ndc.nebula.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.1+UW00.11/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f16I1nh11387; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:01:49 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:01:45 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jpf@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 36 On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: > I've tried various things to no avail so far. Here is my latest > non-working effort. > > speller=_TEST("test -e /usr/bin/aspell")_ /usr/bin/aspell --mode=email check, > _TEST("test -e /usr/bin/ispell")_ /usr/bin/ispell > Any suggestions? Please respond ASAP. Yeah. Upgrade to 4.33. Quoting is broken in 4.32. Jeff -- Jeff Franklin Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:11:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA02731 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 10:11:50 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA32604; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:11:49 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA26518; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:10:57 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA21922 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:10:16 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA21688 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:10:15 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp111229.sympatico.ca [216.209.120.128]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21713; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:05:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f16IABv09063; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:10:11 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:10:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff Franklin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 37 On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Jeff Franklin wrote: >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:01:45 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) >From: Jeff Franklin >To: Mike A. Harris >Cc: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. > >On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >> I've tried various things to no avail so far. Here is my latest >> non-working effort. >> >> speller=_TEST("test -e /usr/bin/aspell")_ /usr/bin/aspell --mode=email check, >> _TEST("test -e /usr/bin/ispell")_ /usr/bin/ispell > >> Any suggestions? Please respond ASAP. > >Yeah. Upgrade to 4.33. Quoting is broken in 4.32. This _IS_ PINE 4.33... sorry I wasn't clear. Try the above in 4.33 and you get "Speller abnormally exited" errors. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft (noun). C+ students programming in c++. -- Mike DeMaria From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:40:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA29934 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:40:51 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 10:40:49 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA01292; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:40:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA31722; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:40:04 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA149100 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:38:14 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA26085 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:38:13 -0800 Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA01567; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:38:13 -0800 Received: from jfranklin_ndc.nebula.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.1+UW00.11/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f16IcDh12345; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:38:13 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:38:09 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jpf@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 38 On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Jeff Franklin wrote: > > >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:01:45 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) > >From: Jeff Franklin > >To: Mike A. Harris > >Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. > > > >On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > > >> I've tried various things to no avail so far. Here is my latest > >> non-working effort. > >> > >> speller=_TEST("test -e /usr/bin/aspell")_ /usr/bin/aspell --mode=email check, > >> _TEST("test -e /usr/bin/ispell")_ /usr/bin/ispell > > > >> Any suggestions? Please respond ASAP. > > > >Yeah. Upgrade to 4.33. Quoting is broken in 4.32. > > This _IS_ PINE 4.33... sorry I wasn't clear. Try the above in > 4.33 and you get "Speller abnormally exited" errors. Sorry, I wasn't thinking clearly. The speller variable currently doesn't recognize tokens, but we've put it on the list of things to consider for a future release. Jeff -- Jeff Franklin Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:49:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA10726 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:49:35 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 10:49:34 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA21244; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:49:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA27688; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:49:04 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA111124 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:48:24 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA08136 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:48:24 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA03939 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:48:24 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (D-128-95-135-159.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.159]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA29431 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:48:23 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:48:23 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Japanese JIS ISO-2022-JP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 39 If the text has ESC characters in it that should also cause pine to set the charset to the value of your character-set variable. Is that not working? -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Kevin Carnes wrote: > I'm trying to setup my pine to be able to send e-mail in Japanese, but > since JIS is 7-bit, I can't get pine to set the content-type to > ISO-2022-JP without typing some random 8-bit character to get it to > realize the message is in another character-set. Is there any way to get > it to realize it's another character-set without using 8-bit characters? > > Thanks so much, > Kevin Carnes From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:12:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA26572 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 11:12:37 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA02461; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:12:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA14744; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:11:53 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA102514 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:10:20 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA04754 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:10:19 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp111229.sympatico.ca [216.209.120.128]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22090; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:05:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f16JAHB09599; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:10:17 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:10:17 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff Franklin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 40 On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Jeff Franklin wrote: >> >> I've tried various things to no avail so far. Here is my latest >> >> non-working effort. >> >> >> >> speller=_TEST("test -e /usr/bin/aspell")_ /usr/bin/aspell --mode=email check, >> >> _TEST("test -e /usr/bin/ispell")_ /usr/bin/ispell >> > >> >> Any suggestions? Please respond ASAP. >> > >> >Yeah. Upgrade to 4.33. Quoting is broken in 4.32. >> >> This _IS_ PINE 4.33... sorry I wasn't clear. Try the above in >> 4.33 and you get "Speller abnormally exited" errors. > >Sorry, I wasn't thinking clearly. The speller variable currently doesn't >recognize tokens, but we've put it on the list of things to consider for a >future release. Ok. I've solved the problem by making a pine-spellcheck wrapper script which handles different spell checkers. Works great and shall appear in my next series of RPM packages. Those using Red Hat 5.x/6.x should be able to use the packages in rawhide with a rebuild from source with no problems, and have a working spell checker out of the box once again. Should appear in rawhide RSN. Thanks Jeff! TTYL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- So, if anybody wants to have free hardware sent to them, don't call me, but instead write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me. Linus Torvalds From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:41:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA14585 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 06 20:41:25 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA05733; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:41:25 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA24884; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:40:57 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA123698 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:37:10 -0800 Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [195.133.68.22]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA21708 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:37:08 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.mccme.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id HAA13490; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:20:13 +0300 Received: from localhost (ivan@localhost) by zephyrous.ru (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f16KYi226987; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:34:44 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:34:44 +0300 (MSK) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ivan Zakharyaschev To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff Franklin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 41 On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Jeff Franklin wrote: > Sorry, I wasn't thinking clearly. The speller variable currently > doesn't > recognize tokens, but we've put it on the list of things to consider > for a > future release. A humble suggestion on spell checking in Pine: I would appreciate it, if there was a possibility of choosing the language before starting to check the spelling of the message. For example, I could write formal letters in English, Russian, or German and check the spelling. -- Best regards, Ivan Z. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:00:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA21774 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 07 00:00:03 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA09429; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:00:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA27460; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:59:30 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA72884 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:58:03 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool.corp.redhat.com [199.183.24.200] (may be forged)) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA24503 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:58:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f177uYt03202; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 02:56:34 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 02:56:34 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ivan Zakharyaschev X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 42 On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Ivan Zakharyaschev wrote: >> Sorry, I wasn't thinking clearly. The speller variable currently >> doesn't >> recognize tokens, but we've put it on the list of things to consider >> for a >> future release. > >A humble suggestion on spell checking in Pine: > >I would appreciate it, if there was a possibility of choosing the language >before starting to check the spelling of the message. For example, I could >write formal letters in English, Russian, or German and check the >spelling. This would be a feature of the spell checking software I believe. I would think the spell checker should check your locale and use the language appropriae for the locale you are using. I don't use the spell checker myself though (or I would have spelled approprate correctly above) so I'm not sure how such would work. If you use Red Hat Linux, please fill out a request for enhancement in bugzilla (like a bug, only put "enhancement" for severity). http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/ TTYL -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:20:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA02048 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 07 00:20:37 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA23750; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:20:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA15328; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:20:21 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA52408 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:01:45 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool.corp.redhat.com [199.183.24.200] (may be forged)) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA11363 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:01:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1781fb03498 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:01:41 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:01:40 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: New PINE RPM's avail for testing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 43 Anyone using Red Hat Linux 7.0, 6.x or our new beta release called "Fisher", might want to try out my new unnofficial RPM packages of PINE 4.33 with pinegpg support at: ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/pine Please file ALL bug reports in BUGZILLA. Direct emailed bug reports are no good. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla Enjoy! -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:58:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA31541 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 07 00:58:15 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA24438; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:58:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA27006; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:58:00 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA38648 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:57:14 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA29616 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:57:14 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA24415; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:57:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA57178; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:57:10 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:57:10 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug with disable-keymenu and ViewAttch menu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: , Pine Info Mailing List , Pine Development Team X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 44 I've got disable-keymenu checked in Main, Setup, Config, and I go into the Attachment Index screen via the ViewAttch command. I press ? to display the keymenu, and then press O for Other cmds. Rather than displaying the other commands like it's supposed to, it gets rid of the keymenu. The O command seems to work most everywhere else, though. FEATURE: disable-keymenu If this feature is set the command key menu that normally appears on the bottom two lines of the screen will not usually be there. Asking for help with ^G or ? will cause the key menu to appear instead of causing the help message to come up. If you want to actually see the help text, another ^G or ? will show it to you. After the key menu has popped up with the help key it will remain there for an O for Other command but disappear if any other command is typed. Thanks. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:56:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id GAA26394 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 07 06:56:41 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA18220; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:56:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA32388; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:56:18 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA67932 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:54:41 -0800 Received: from chess.worldwinner.com ([199.103.191.132]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA10500 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:54:41 -0800 Received: by CHESS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:54:39 -0500 Received: from bigbird (wave.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.37.107]) by chess.worldwinner.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id D0FLFGQS; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:54:34 -0500 Message-Id: <001501c09116$24b93740$1094a8c0@bigbird> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:56:24 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: John Saylor To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: SSL problems with pc-pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 Hi I'm trying to make a connection to an IMAPS server and pc-pine keeps complaining about unknown certificate authority. How can I make it aware of a given CA? I'm running under win2k pro and connection to a courier imap server if that helps. -- \js [under duress with outhouse express] -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:12:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA28682 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 07 07:12:12 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA18624; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:12:11 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA15566; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:11:43 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA51224 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:10:52 -0800 Received: from ruoppolo.phy.anl.gov (IDENT:root@ruoppolo.phy.anl.gov [146.139.144.3]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA12660 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:10:51 -0800 Received: from maria.phy.anl.gov (IDENT:teh@maria.phy.anl.gov [146.139.144.173]) by ruoppolo.phy.anl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19186; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:10:50 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:10:49 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ken Teh To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: SSL problems with pc-pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: John Saylor X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 46 On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, John Saylor wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to make a connection to an IMAPS server and pc-pine keeps > complaining about unknown certificate authority. How can I make it aware > of a given CA? > > I'm running under win2k pro and connection to a courier imap server if > that helps. > > -- > \js [under duress with outhouse express] > I have the same problem with pine 4.30 on Unix. I learnt that from an SSL mailing list that Pine (at least 4.30) does not do validation correctly. So, even though I have my CA's key and have included it in my pem file, it still fails. Luckily, I came across in the Pine documentation that you can turn off certificate validation and that's how I have it running at the moment. If anyone knows more about this, I'd like to hear it. Ken From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:34:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA26543 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 07 07:34:20 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA00825; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:34:19 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA28466; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:34:03 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA61880 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:33:28 -0800 Received: from chess.worldwinner.com ([199.103.191.132]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA29105 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:33:27 -0800 Received: by CHESS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:33:29 -0500 Received: from bigbird (wave.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.37.107]) by chess.worldwinner.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id D0FLFGYM; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:33:23 -0500 Message-Id: <001f01c0911b$915b5400$1094a8c0@bigbird> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:35:13 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: John Saylor To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: SSL problems with pc-pine References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Ken Teh X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 47 Hi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Teh" Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:06 Subject: Re: SSL problems with pc-pine > So, even though I have my CA's key and have included it in my pem file, it > still fails. What's the pem file? $PINERC/certificates.pem > Luckily, I came across in the Pine documentation that you can turn off > certificate validation and that's how I have it running at the moment. How do you turn off certificate validation? Can I do it on PC-Pine? -- \js [under duress with outhouse express] From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:25:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id IAA22738 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 07 08:24:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA20697; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:24:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA29672; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:24:34 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA51282 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:23:01 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA05946 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:23:00 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f17GMxF83166; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:22:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:22:59 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 48 *** Mike A. Harris (mharris@redhat.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) >A humble suggestion on spell checking in Pine: :) > :) >I would appreciate it, if there was a possibility of choosing the language :) >before starting to check the spelling of the message. For example, I could :) >write formal letters in English, Russian, or German and check the :) >spelling. :) :) This would be a feature of the spell checking software I believe. :) I would think the spell checker should check your locale and use :) the language appropriae for the locale you are using. I don't :) use the spell checker myself though (or I would have spelled :) approprate correctly above) so I'm not sure how such would work. Almost agree, I send e-mails in two languages, if I could I would like to be able to choose the speller (or the parameters passed to the speller), from a menu after pressing "^T". Of course all of this should be configurable so that for other people pressing "^T" would work as it does today. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:10:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA19404 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 07 10:09:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA24657; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:09:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA27644; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:09:12 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA111956 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:07:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA41996; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:07:08 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:07:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: SSL problems with pc-pine In-Reply-To: <001f01c0911b$915b5400$1094a8c0@bigbird> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: John Saylor X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 49 On 02/07/01 at 10:35am -0500, John Saylor wrote: > How do you turn off certificate validation? Can I do it on PC-Pine? Add the /novalidate-cert flag to the hostname after the /ssl flag. There's been some good discussion on this recently in comp.mail.pine. Check out http://x74.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/threadmsg_ct.xp?AN=724951090.1&mhitnum=5&CONTEXT=981568874.226230320 -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:36:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA17889 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 07 12:35:54 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA11401; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:35:54 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA23058; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:35:23 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA58638 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:33:45 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA04490 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:33:45 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA11337 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:33:45 -0800 Received: from shiva0.cac.washington.edu (shiva0.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.200]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA24576 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:33:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (postmast@localhost) by shiva0.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA18356 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:33:44 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:33:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Redundant Mail Relays with Pine, Eudora and Outlook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 50 We have two WAN links, and are attempting to achieve some redundancy for our outgoing SMTP mail. We have two relay servers (call them): mail1.ourdomain.org mail2.ourdomain.org Each server has MX records pointing to itself and a less preferred MX record pointing to the other. The host name smtp.ourdomain.org has a CNAME record pointing to mail1 and mail clients are instructed to use smtp.ourdomain.org as the relay for outgoing mail. The idea is that if mail1 goes down, then the less preferred MX record will be used to send mail out via mail2. This works well for the Unix mail program Pine 4.10, which will switch from mail1 to mail2 with only a 5 minute delay. But the PC programs don't work so well. Pine 4.32, Eudora Pro 5.0, and Outlook Express 5.0 all ignore the MX records. Microsoft Outlook 5.0 is even worse. In our tests, messages sent while mail1 was down stay in the outbox and are not sent later when mail1 recovers. This is true even if one hits "send/receive". If you right click on the outbox entry you are told "This message did not get sent". You can forward the message, and it will go out promptly, suggesting that Outlook isn't even trying to send it out. At http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2178hq.html Eudora says that the Mac version has a "UseMX" option that is off by default, but that page doesn't specify the treatment of MX records in the PC version. At http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q208/9/15.ASP Microsoft says that Outlook Express 4.0 follows MX records, and uses the A record only if no MX record is usable, but that OE 4.5 reverses the selection and looks for MX records only if the A record is unusable. There is no mention of how 5.0 might use MX records that I can tell, but it looks to us like it ignores them entirely. Both web sites suggest that waiting for MX records that may not exist is tiresome and the vendor is doing a favor for the user by ignoring them. At http://www.washington.edu /pine/pine-info/1996.05/msg00174.html there is a comment from Marc Crispin (one of the Pine developers): > The brief answer [is] that the requirement for MX records has to > do with MTA (Mail Transfer Agent, a.k.a. "mailer") interchange with > other MTAs. Pine's SMTP code is not, and is not intended to be, an > MTA. It is merely mechanism for queueing a message to an MTA. There > are no RFC requirements on a mechanism for queueing to an MTA. This describes PC-Pine, but we don't have problems with Pine on Unix. Perhaps there is a favorable interaction with sendmail acting as the MTA (which would obey the MX directive) before the message is transferred to the relay server. In any case, with Unix Pine, messages do seem to get through even if the least cost mail relay is down. Is there any way to have redundant servers for PC clients? I note (if there are any developers listening) that there is a new DNS record type "SRV" that would be an alternative for providing redundancy in this situation which is documented in RFC 2782. Daniel Feenberg feenberg@nber.org Mohan Ramanujan mohan@nber.org -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:40:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA07975 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 08 05:39:59 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA21108; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:39:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA30424; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:39:40 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA135928 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:34:05 -0800 Received: from exchange5-5.pune.tcs.co.in (dns.pune.tcs.co.in [202.54.11.171]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA21331 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:34:03 -0800 Received: from ashok (ashok.pune.tcs.co.in [172.17.202.120]) by exchange5-5.pune.tcs.co.in with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 1RCPVLLL; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:07:05 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:00:46 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ashok Sreenivas To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Exchange address-book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 51 Hi, Our organisation uses Microsoft Exchange as its mail server, and the organisation-wide address books are store on the server. I use pine (just moved to 4.33) on Linux. How do I make my pine see the organisation-wide address book? Thanks in advance for all help ... --- Regards, Ashok, TRDDC, Pune. Email : ashoks@pune.tcs.co.in Web : http://www.pune.tcs.co.in -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:55:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA27752 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 08 09:55:41 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA28478; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:55:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA32872; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:55:20 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA47722 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:52:16 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA16231 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:52:16 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA30909 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:52:16 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (D-128-95-135-159.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.159]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA08633 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:52:16 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:52:16 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Redundant Mail Relays with Pine, Eudora and Outlook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 52 I have not checked what the various clients do, but what happens if you use multiple A records instead of MX records? You'd have a domain smtp.ourdomain.org which had two A records, the addresses of mail1 and mail2. If smtp had an MX record I would expect that to be used only for mail addressed to user@smtp.ourdomain.org (for example, postmaster@smtp.ourdomain.org). -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 feenberg@nber.org wrote: > We have two WAN links, and are attempting to achieve some redundancy for > our outgoing SMTP mail. We have two relay servers (call them): > > mail1.ourdomain.org > mail2.ourdomain.org From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:36:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA24097 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 08 13:36:21 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA04024; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:36:21 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA31218; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:35:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA77044 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:32:38 -0800 Received: from oc.odessa.edu (oc.odessa.edu [198.213.192.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA29780 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:32:37 -0800 Received: from CEVERETT ([10.12.40.1]) by oc.odessa.edu (OCMAIL) with ESMTP id PAA73896 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:32:29 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:28:41 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Chuck Everett To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.33 - ^k, ^u, ^j don't work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: ceverett@odessa.edu X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 53 I upgraded from 3.96 to 4.33. I'm on an IBM RS6000 running pine under wyse60 and vt100 emulation. As a wyse version, ^k, ^u, ^j don't work now but they continue to work as a vt100. I found a "workaround" of doing ESC ESC k and that works but that document implies that the problem is that the OS is not passing the keystrokes through to pine. I know it is because I can turn back around and run 3.96 and the keystrokes work. Anyone with a clue on this? *********************** Information Systems ****************************** Chuck Everett Odessa College Database/Systems Administrator 201 W. University Odessa, TX 79764 E-mail : ceverett@odessa.edu Web : www.odessa.edu IBM RS6000 model F50x4 - AIX v4.3.3 Phone : 915-335-6664 Unidata v5.1.p19 - COL16.0 - BEN5.0 FAX : 915-335-6846 ProgLibrary: http://odessa.edu (admin ftp site) ************************************************************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:43:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA15491 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 08 13:43:36 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA04233; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:43:35 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA23200; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:42:47 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA72924 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:40:29 -0800 Received: from nat2i.nber.org (gw-nber-cust-2.bos.idt.net [207.202.104.58]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA07290 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:40:28 -0800 Received: from nber1.nber.org (nber1.nber.org [207.113.108.252]) by nat2i.nber.org (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f18GgTi94727; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:42:29 GMT (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:39:46 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Feenberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Redundant Mail Relays with Pine, Eudora and Outlook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 54 Redundant Outbound SMTP Servers: Second Try, with Multiple A Records Reorganize the DNS zone file so that there is a single hostname with two A records

smtp IN A 192.168.0.1 smtp IN A 192.168.0.2 Now clients will receive both numeric addresses when they look for smtp.example.org. The order will vary, since Bind "round robbins" the addresses. The Windows "ping" command confirms that both addresses are sent and available to applications on the PC. What happens if one address points to a nonfunctioning server? In very limited testing, it seems that Pine was sometimes able to send the message but not every time. Perhaps it depended on which IP address was first on the list returned by Bind. Eudora Pro 5.0 seems to always send the message out without noticable delay, and both Microsoft products (Outlook 5.0 and Outlook Express 5.0) simply held the mail in their outboxes forever. This last behavior seemed perverse, surely it should work at least half the time, but we did not observe that. I couldn't find anything in the standard (RFC974) that required a mail client to respond in any particular way to multiple IP addresses, although it would seem that timing out expeditiously and trying the next address would be the best response when the first address tried was not responding. Daniel Feenberg feenberg@nber.org On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Steve Hubert wrote: > I have not checked what the various clients do, but what happens if you > use multiple A records instead of MX records? You'd have a domain > > smtp.ourdomain.org > > which had two A records, the addresses of mail1 and mail2. If smtp had an > MX record I would expect that to be used only for mail addressed to > user@smtp.ourdomain.org (for example, postmaster@smtp.ourdomain.org). > > -- > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 feenberg@nber.org wrote: > > > We have two WAN links, and are attempting to achieve some redundancy for > > our outgoing SMTP mail. We have two relay servers (call them): > > > > mail1.ourdomain.org > > mail2.ourdomain.org > > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:16:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA15592 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 08 14:16:09 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA05236; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:16:04 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA23390; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:15:19 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA109804 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:12:44 -0800 Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [195.133.68.22]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA01431 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:12:42 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.mccme.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id AAA07016 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:53:30 +0300 Received: from localhost (ivan@localhost) by zephyrous.ru (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f18M8dM04872 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 01:08:39 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 01:08:39 +0300 (MSK) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ivan Zakharyaschev To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Configuring PINE to detect the spell checker.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 55 Mike, Eduardo, sorry for a bit delayed answer. On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Mike A. Harris (mharris@redhat.com) wrote in the pine-info list > today: > > :) >A humble suggestion on spell checking in Pine: > :) > > :) >I would appreciate it, if there was a possibility of choosing the > language > :) >before starting to check the spelling of the message. For example, > I could > :) >write formal letters in English, Russian, or German and check the > :) >spelling. > :) > :) This would be a feature of the spell checking software I believe. > :) I would think the spell checker should check your locale and use > :) the language appropriae for the locale you are using. I don't > :) use the spell checker myself though (or I would have spelled > :) approprate correctly above) so I'm not sure how such would work. The solution based only on locale settings wouldn't be full enough (though it would be a reasonablee default behaviour of the spell checker/mail client to assume that the message is in the language that corresponds to the locale): all the locale stuff (as I see it) is much more devoted to the way how an application interacts with the user than to deciding on what national attributes the processed data has. The locale makes a program speak in such a language and format its output in such a way that is best understood by the user. In contrast, m17n support requires that a program can work with data in different languages (while the interface can stay in one language). I believe Emacs or TeX processor are rather good examples of such multilingualised programs: they can work with documents in different languages independent of the locale. Various Internet tools (browsers, mail agents) should be also: they have to deal with content that comes from (or goes to) all around the world. Should I change the locale for reading a document in a foreign language? Certainly not. Should the menu items change from one language into another when I'm reading a message written in another language? No. Should I change the locale or should the interface change when I'm composing a message in one or another language (probably foreign)? The answer must be the same as for the case of reading a message: no. The conclusion: it would be nice if there were means of specifying the language of the message being composed other than locale settings or simply none at all. > Almost agree, I send e-mails in two languages, if I could I would like > to > be able to choose the speller (or the parameters passed to the > speller), > from a menu after pressing "^T". Of course all of this should be > configurable so that for other people pressing "^T" would work as it > does > today. Yeah, of course. And here another discussion can be started: one solution for the problem could be an external wrapper-script around the spell checker that asks you about the parameters. Another solution would be to embed the selection into Pine, so that the "look-and-feel" of Pine isn't lost (in contrast to the first varinat). But the second solution is harder to implement: one has to patch the enormous sources of Pine. It's a pity that it isn't very modular. And the same kind of problems arise with other features like gpg/pgp support for Pine: I would prefer to have a signing module for Pine that looks just like all the rest of it (the same style of the menus etc.). In fact, the statement that Pine isn't modular at all isn't true: the source is not extremely difficult to extend with new features (for example, now I'm using a Pine patched by a friend of mine and me so that it is able to recode messages between various Russian encodings -- we have about 5 of them :-( ). But the thing I would like to see is the possibility of dynamic loading modules for Pine. Anyway, I have to stop talking now. And go make real things for i18n and m17n ;-) -- Best regards, Ivan Z. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:09:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id QAA22051 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 08 16:09:54 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA09481; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:09:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA31042; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:09:27 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA76826 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:59:49 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA28048 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:59:47 -0800 Received: (qmail 4877 invoked by uid 1828); 8 Feb 2001 23:59:47 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:59:47 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Could pine do its data gathering in the background? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 56 I get the impression that pine "figures out" (caches) a bunch of stuff when you do a search.. because subsequent searches are like WAY FAST. So, an obvious suggestion would be to have an option (possibly ON by default, but should be turn-offable for memory/CPU usage) for pine to start doing this when you start pine, possibly a little bit in the background. Then, "magically", searches will likely end up being a lot faster for the user. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:49:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id RAA28138 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 08 17:49:39 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA12428; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:49:39 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA32950; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:49:17 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA40814 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:46:40 -0800 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (IDENT:ras@nimbus.anzio.com [204.201.253.34]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA17290 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:46:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA20380; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:40:42 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:40:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.33 - ^k, ^u, ^j don't work In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chuck Everett X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 57 On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Chuck Everett wrote: > I upgraded from 3.96 to 4.33. I'm on an IBM RS6000 running pine under > wyse60 and vt100 emulation. As a wyse version, ^k, ^u, ^j don't work > now but they continue to work as a vt100. I found a "workaround" of doing > ESC ESC k and that works but that document implies that the problem is > that the OS is not passing the keystrokes through to pine. I know it is > because I can turn back around and run 3.96 and the keystrokes work. While I can't tell you why 3.96 DID work, I can point out the basic problem: those control keys represent certain keytrokes coming from a Wyse. Control-K is up-arrow, control-J is down-arrow; control-U escapes me. Obviously control-K can't do BOTH up-arrow and delete-line. I guess the priority has changed. -- Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:00:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA04068 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 09 04:00:06 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA06225; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:00:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id DAA32186; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 03:59:34 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id DAA40546 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 03:56:56 -0800 Received: from smtp02.hk.linkage.net (smtp02.hk.linkage.net [202.76.4.21]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA16746 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 03:56:53 -0800 Received: from backup.spnetctg.com (mail.spnetctg.com [210.184.28.8]) by smtp02.hk.linkage.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f19Bw3q05446 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:58:06 +0800 (HKT) Received: (qmail 8199 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 00:22:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spnetctg.com) (210.184.28.207) by mail.spnetctg.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 00:22:20 -0000 Message-Id: <3A83DB5B.6B8ED61B@spnetctg.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:58:19 +0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satyajit Das To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: satyajit@smtp02.hk.linkage.net X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 58 please inform howto unsubscribe ? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:01:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA26723 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:01:40 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 09 05:01:39 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA25805; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:01:38 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA23774; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:01:17 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA17158 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:59:12 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA09231 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:59:09 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f19D5dj08614 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:35:39 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:35:39 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: please In-Reply-To: <3A83DB5B.6B8ED61B@spnetctg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 59 Today at 17:58 +0600, Satyajit Das wrote: > please inform howto unsubscribe ? Please look at the mail headers. -- Mohit Agarwal (mohit@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:34:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA29905 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 09 10:34:32 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA16341; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:34:32 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA18534; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:34:07 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA67688 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:31:12 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA05244 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:31:12 -0800 Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA12242 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:31:12 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.1+UW00.11/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f19IVBh28397 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:31:12 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:31:12 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.33 - ^k, ^u, ^j don't work In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 60 Try turning on the hidden feature "termdef-takes-precedence" to see if that helps. If your old 3.96 worked because it had been compiled with "TERMCAP_WINS" then this feature might fix it. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:30:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA00368 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 09 11:30:45 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA18212; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:30:45 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA09456; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:30:12 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA55346 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:27:17 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA18782 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:27:17 -0800 Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id LAA24124 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:27:16 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.1+UW00.11/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f19JRGh29310 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:27:16 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:27:17 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug with disable-keymenu and ViewAttch menu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="4576558-31648-981746837=:1528" X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 61 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --4576558-31648-981746837=:1528 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yup, will be fixed in next version. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote: > I've got disable-keymenu checked in Main, Setup, Config, and I go into the > Attachment Index screen via the ViewAttch command. I press ? to display > the keymenu, and then press O for Other cmds. Rather than displaying the > other commands like it's supposed to, it gets rid of the keymenu. The O > command seems to work most everywhere else, though. --4576558-31648-981746837=:1528 Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; name=diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: diff for .../pine/mailpart.c Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=diff MmMyCjwgc3RhdGljIGNoYXIgcmNzaWRbXSA9ICIkSWQ6IG1haWxwYXJ0LmMs diA0LjI2MSAyMDAxLzAxLzIyIDIzOjE2OjAxIGpwZiBFeHAgJCI7Ci0tLQo+ IHN0YXRpYyBjaGFyIHJjc2lkW10gPSAiJElkOiBtYWlscGFydC5jLHYgNC4y NjIgMjAwMS8wMi8wOSAxOToxOTozNCBodWJlcnQgRXhwICQiOwo2MDRjNjA0 CjwgCSAgc3dpdGNoKGNoKXsKLS0tCj4gCSAgc3dpdGNoKGNtZCl7CjYwNWE2 MDYKPiAJICAgIGNhc2UgTUNfT1RIRVIgOgo= --4576558-31648-981746837=:1528-- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:53:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA07558 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 09 14:53:01 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA25236; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:53:00 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA28466; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:52:21 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA109304 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:48:38 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA31853 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:48:38 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA25113 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:48:37 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA29560 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:48:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (postmast@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA11664 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:48:37 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:48:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jamie Sparks To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pc-pine source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 62 Hello, Can anyone tell if uwash makes the pc-pine source available (4.3x). I have searched the archive and cannot find the answer. I suspect that only *nix source distributions are available but would feel better if that would confirmed. thanks, Jamie -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:07:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA18105 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 09 15:07:47 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA11693; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:07:47 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA28612; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:07:02 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA162950 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:03:00 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA12399 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:03:00 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f19N2vF372059; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:02:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:02:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine source? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jamie Sparks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 63 *** Jamie Sparks (jsparks@iamigo.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Can anyone tell if uwash makes the pc-pine source available :) (4.3x). I have searched the archive and cannot find the answer. :) I suspect that only *nix source distributions are available but :) would feel better if that would confirmed. Yep, you are right. Unfortunately the source code for PC-Pine is not available (not even without the speller that PC-Pine has included). I guess we are all out of luck here. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:23:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA25697 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 09 15:23:21 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA26137; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:23:20 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA28404; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:23:04 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA154760 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:21:06 -0800 Received: from express-res.com (eloise.express-res.com [204.144.242.129]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA06128 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:21:05 -0800 Received: (from marci@localhost) by express-res.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA73132; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:12:27 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:12:27 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Marci Burgess To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sent-mail folder message index preferences MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 64 We are using Pine 4.21 on UNIX 4.3.3 (IBM RS/6000) When I am in my own sent-mail folder, the messages are displayed according to whom I have sent these messages. If I import someone else's sent-mail folder, the messages are displayed according to who sent the messages. My situation is that several users are accessing and using a mailbox in the mbx format. As they try to do research in the sent-mail folder, they see the same behavior that I have described above (a user sees the recipient of his own sent-mail, but sees the sender of any mail sent by other users) How do I configure either the folder or the message index to always show the recipient of a sent-message? Thanks for any help. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:49:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA02278 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 10 00:49:45 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA05201; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:49:45 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA30634; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:49:28 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA39966 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:46:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA82672; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:45:26 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:45:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sent-mail folder message index preferences In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Marci Burgess X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 65 On 02/09/01 at 4:12pm -0600, Marci Burgess wrote: > When I am in my own sent-mail folder, the messages are displayed according > to whom I have sent these messages. If I import someone else's sent-mail > folder, the messages are displayed according to who sent the messages. > > My situation is that several users are accessing and using a mailbox in > the mbx format. As they try to do research in the sent-mail folder, they > see the same behavior that I have described above (a user sees > the recipient of his own sent-mail, but sees the sender of any mail sent > by other users) > > How do I configure either the folder or the message index to always show > the recipient of a sent-message? If that's really what you want to do (for all folders, unfortunately, unless you apply one of Eduardo's patches), check out the index-format option in Main, Setup, Config. But a more useful solution is probably to add the other user(s) addresses to alt-addresses. Read the help on both options to decide what's best for your situation. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:56:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA21994 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 10 02:56:16 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA25707; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:56:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA21738; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:55:49 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id CAA140608 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:52:20 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA13820 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:52:19 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp128999.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.118]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA00904; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 04:46:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1AAqTC08410; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 05:52:29 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 05:52:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: please In-Reply-To: <3A83DB5B.6B8ED61B@spnetctg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satyajit Das X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 66 On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Satyajit Das wrote: >Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:58:19 +0600 >From: Satyajit Das >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Subject: please > >please inform howto unsubscribe ? Just click here: mailto:listproc@u.washington.edu?body=subscribe%20pine-info%20satyajit Alternatively, send a message to: To: listproc@u.washington.edu With "subscribe pine-info satyajit" in the body. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. 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Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." - Aldous Huxley From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:19:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA18173 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:18:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 10 15:18:57 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA05599; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:18:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA22892; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:18:33 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA131690 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:13:49 -0800 Received: from smtp04.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT003.ONEMAIN.COM [63.208.208.73]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA16090 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:13:48 -0800 Received: (qmail 24885 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 22:35:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MERCURY) ([216.26.45.174]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp04.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Feb 2001 22:35:36 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:36:22 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Bradford To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Can't search that character set MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: dbradfor@mail.teleport.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 67 I'm using PC-Pine Version 4.32 running on Windows 98. In my pinerc file I have the inbox-path defined as: inbox-path={mail.teleport.com/imap/user=dbradfor}INBOX I can open my INBOX and read my mail fine. But when I try to do an aggregate Select (;) pine responds with: [Can't search that character set.] then: [Select failed. No messages selected.] What is up? I searched the pine-info archives for the past year and found no mention of this problem. - David -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:16:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA23762 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:16:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 11 15:16:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA29466; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:16:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA16880; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:16:12 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA125886 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:13:27 -0800 Received: from cannac.ampr.org (lc0399.zianet.com [216.234.194.142]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA30940 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:13:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (karl@localhost) by cannac.ampr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01209; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:14:57 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:14:57 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Karl F. Larsen" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine source? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: cannac.ampr.org: karl owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 68 Eduardo, it's not too bad we don't have the win98 source code. I expect it takes visual C compiler which I refuse to buy, since gcc is free and works fine on unix pine sources. What does amaze me is how well pc-pine works! My wife will not use Linux because it's too dam complex. But she hates eudora and netscape e-mail. So I installed pc-pine and it works fine and she is happy. I'm happy because when she has a problem I just take my pine experiance to her computer and do what's needed. On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Jamie Sparks (jsparks@iamigo.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) Can anyone tell if uwash makes the pc-pine source available > :) (4.3x). I have searched the archive and cannot find the answer. > :) I suspect that only *nix source distributions are available but > :) would feel better if that would confirmed. > > Yep, you are right. Unfortunately the source code for PC-Pine is not > available (not even without the speller that PC-Pine has included). I > guess we are all out of luck here. > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > > > Yours Truly, - Karl F. Larsen, k5di@arrl.net (505) 524-3303 - From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:55:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id RAA28788 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 11 17:55:35 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA14426; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:55:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA09344; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:44:28 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA18784 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:40:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA54012; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:40:48 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:40:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine source? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Karl F. Larsen" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Pine Development Team X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 69 On 02/11/01 at 4:14pm -0700, Karl F. Larsen wrote: > I expect it takes visual C compiler which I refuse to buy, since gcc > is free and works fine on unix pine sources. You forget that the Pine developers started out with Unix Pine and only later ported it to DOS and then Win32. So I'll bet you they use gcc to build PC-Pine just like they do for Unix Pine. But either way, I believe PC-Pine's source code (or as much of it as possible) should be made public just as the Unix Pine's source is. I've yet to hear of a good reason why the public portions of the code (which wouldn't include the spell checker, apparently) couldn't be made available so users could apply patches to PC-Pine and build customized versions. Is it simply because no one on the Pine team has yet had the time to seperate the public and licensed portions of the code? Or is there a more fundamental reason? I'd appreciate any comments from the Pine team. Thanks. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:15:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA29973 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 12 02:15:34 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA08834; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:15:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA25170; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:15:15 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id CAA06152 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:11:33 -0800 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA30317 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:11:31 -0800 Received: from swamp.bayern.net (gator.home.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.146.103]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28596 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:09:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gator@localhost) by swamp.bayern.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id LAA17466; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:06:57 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:06:56 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Peter Daum Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Peter Daum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine source? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 70 On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote: > But either way, I believe PC-Pine's source code (or as much of it as > possible) should be made public just as the Unix Pine's source is. I've > yet to hear of a good reason why the public portions of the code (which > wouldn't include the spell checker, apparently) couldn't be made available > so users could apply patches to PC-Pine and build customized versions. > Is it simply because no one on the Pine team has yet had the time to > seperate the public and licensed portions of the code? Or is there a more > fundamental reason? I'd appreciate any comments from the Pine team. Normally, I hate "me too" messages, but in this case it seems appropriate. I have been subscribed to this list for quite a while and seen this question beeing asked at least 5 times. As a result, there usually were some postings from pine users reporting various rumors about that issue (like the one about the spell checker). Not a single time I have seen any reaction from the Pine developers. It almost seems like they are deliberately keeping this unclear ... Dear Pine developers: *Please end these wild speculations*, preferably not only by answering the question here, but also by including a clear statement about this issue on the Pine web pages and in the distribution! Like many others, I personally would strongly prefer the source code for PC-Pine to be public, but that's not the point. The way things are, you have of course every right to do with your code whatever you like - but it would be nice to let the users know, what you are up to. Regards, Peter Daum From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:49:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA07369 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 12 04:49:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA26861; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:49:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA34748; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:49:09 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA06156 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:47:45 -0800 Received: from cannac.ampr.org (lc0365.zianet.com [216.234.194.108]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA27190; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:47:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (karl@localhost) by cannac.ampr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00810; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 05:49:16 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 05:49:16 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Karl F. Larsen" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine source? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: "Karl F. Larsen" , Pine Discussion Forum , X-Authentication-Warning: cannac.ampr.org: karl owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 71 Hello Scott, Yes I know there was a flap with Debian over the Free Software aspects of Pine. I compiled version 4.31 for unix and looked and I do have the source code as expected. The license had SUGGESTED ways to modify the code and asked that you not export a version of pine. The nice little windows bar above pc-pine is a pain to make with gcc and is simply done with Microsoft Visual C. But you are a school, and someone could learn a lot from doing it with gcc. I think your right, pc-pine should include the source code. More so because it's such a well done professional software for windows. I expect the source may be compiled by Borland C. I do that. Write the source and compile with gcc and make it work in Linux. Then compile in Dos with Borland. If something like that is required, it's no reason for not releasing the source. On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote: > On 02/11/01 at 4:14pm -0700, Karl F. Larsen wrote: > > > I expect it takes visual C compiler which I refuse to buy, since gcc > > is free and works fine on unix pine sources. > > You forget that the Pine developers started out with Unix Pine and only > later ported it to DOS and then Win32. So I'll bet you they use gcc to > build PC-Pine just like they do for Unix Pine. > > But either way, I believe PC-Pine's source code (or as much of it as > possible) should be made public just as the Unix Pine's source is. I've > yet to hear of a good reason why the public portions of the code (which > wouldn't include the spell checker, apparently) couldn't be made available > so users could apply patches to PC-Pine and build customized versions. > Is it simply because no one on the Pine team has yet had the time to > seperate the public and licensed portions of the code? Or is there a more > fundamental reason? I'd appreciate any comments from the Pine team. > > Thanks. > -- > Scott Leibrand > leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) > http://students.washington.edu/leibrand > * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * > * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * > * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * > > > > > Yours Truly, - Karl F. Larsen, k5di@arrl.net (505) 524-3303 - From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:46:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA05923 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 12 07:46:51 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA15615; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:46:50 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA08074; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:45:55 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA68158 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:44:55 -0800 Received: from web9606.mail.yahoo.com (web9606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.185]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA11876 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:44:55 -0800 Received: from [63.10.52.2] by web9606.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:44:54 PST Message-Id: <20010212154454.69146.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:44:54 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: james.young@newhorizons.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: James Young To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1680321837-981992694=:63106" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 72 --0-1680321837-981992694=:63106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am trying to set up accounts so that any message recieved has a copy (must leave original on server) to another e-mail account. 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In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jamesqf@postoffice.att.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 73 On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote: > But either way, I believe PC-Pine's source code (or as much of it as > possible) should be made public just as the Unix Pine's source is. I've > yet to hear of a good reason why the public portions of the code (which > wouldn't include the spell checker, apparently) couldn't be made available > so users could apply patches to PC-Pine and build customized versions. Either way would be fine with me too. In the unlikely event I had some spare time, I'd like to be able to fix a few of the annoyances in the version I use (4.21). Things like not repainting the screen on expose events, not responding immediately to quit commands, stuff like that. I can't see why pine needs an internal spell checker anyway. I never use it: for those who do want such a thing, a link to an external program ought to be sufficient, and would take care of the problems with languages other than English, as was mentioned here a few days ago. James From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:28:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA24963 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 12 11:28:36 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA23345; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:28:35 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA16210; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:27:27 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA55974 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:25:48 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA32665 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:25:47 -0800 Received: (qmail 12207 invoked by uid 1828); 12 Feb 2001 19:25:46 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:25:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: character display question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 74 Ok, I don't know enough about different character sets to explain this well, so I'll just explain what I'm seeing. This situation is with pine 4.30.. I got a message on a work mailing list, and in his signature, this guy had Jens Originally, I had ISO-8859-1 set as my character set, and on this terminal emulator (Terminal, on Mac OS X), I was seeing [box character]ens So it was 'eating up' two characters. Anyway, I changed my character set in pine to US-ASCII, and it is still displaying incorrectly. I now see ^Jens >From the original message with this problem, the attachment index shows: 1 ~35 lines Text/PLAIN (charset: Unknown "windows-1252") 2 ~39 lines Text/ENRICHED (charset: Unknown "windows-1252") And I see: [ The following text is in the "windows-1252" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] At the top of the message display.... Is this just an inherent limitation of pine (or some other display program pine is using)? It would seem to me that it should make "obvious" subsitutions, in this case replaced with "-" or possibly two hyphens. I can provide more info if necessary or even a sample email that shows the problem. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:46:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA02969 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 12 11:46:57 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA24085; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:46:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA25460; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:45:53 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA57572 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:44:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA53554; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:44:13 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:44:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: character display question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 75 On 02/12/01 at 11:25am -0800, Matt Ackeret wrote: > I got a message on a work mailing list, and in his signature, this guy had > Jens > > Originally, I had ISO-8859-1 set as my character set, and on this > terminal emulator (Terminal, on Mac OS X), I was seeing > [box character]ens I've seen similar problems caused by incorrect (non ISO-8859-1 compatible) fonts on Win32. For example, if you're using "Terminal" as your font and you try to display an ISO-8859-1 formatted message, it will misdisplay characters even if your Pine character set is set to ISO-8859-1. To make it work properly, you have to choose a different font like "FixedSys". Play around with some different fonts and see if that's the problem you're encountering. If not, let us know. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:07:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA08222 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 12 12:07:32 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA07416; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:07:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA29498; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:06:03 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA55986 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:05:00 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA21098 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:04:59 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:04:53 -0600 Received: from [129.179.16.63] by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 04:04:48 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 04:04:25 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: question In-Reply-To: <20010212154454.69146.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C09572.0DB8F750" X-To: X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 76 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C09572.0DB8F750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James, Your question is a "sendmail" mail question, not pine. However, the answer is... In your .forward file you need to have 2 lines similar to this: user@othersystem.com \originaluser The first line tells sendmail to forward the email to the remote account. The second line tells sendmail to leave a copy on the original server. BTW, this the .forward is not a "standard" but is implemented in sendmail and most of its equivalents. However, there is an option for the admins to disable it so your mileage may vary. Ed -----Original Message----- From: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of James Young Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:45 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: question I am trying to set up accounts so that any message recieved has a copy (must leave original on server) to another e-mail account. I was told about something called a .forward file and I attepted to set it up and was then unable to recieve emails at all. Please help me with this. Answers can be sent to James.Young@c3iconsult.com thank you, James Young ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Do You Yahoo!? - Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - only $35 a year! ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C09572.0DB8F750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
James,
 
Your=20 question is a "sendmail" mail question, not pine.  However, the = answer=20 is...
 
In=20 your .forward file you need to have 2 lines similar to = this:
 
user@othersystem.com
\originaluser
 
The=20 first line tells sendmail to forward the email to the remote = account.  The=20 second line tells sendmail to leave a copy on the original server.  =
 
BTW,=20 this the .forward is not a "standard" but is implemented in sendmail and = most of=20 its equivalents.  However, there is an option for the admins to = disable it=20 so your mileage may vary.
 
Ed
 
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From:=20 PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu=20 [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of James=20 Young
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:45 PM
To: = Pine=20 Discussion Forum
Subject: question

I am trying to set up accounts so that any message recieved has a = copy=20 (must leave original on server) to another e-mail account.  I was = told=20 about something called a .forward file and I attepted to set it up and = was=20 then unable to recieve emails at all.  Please help me with = this. =20 Answers can be sent to James.Young@c3iconsult.com=

thank you,

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Mail Personal = Address - only=20 $35 a year! ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C09572.0DB8F750-- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:15:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id WAA31173 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 12 22:15:08 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA09086; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:15:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id WAA30012; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:14:31 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id WAA59552 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:10:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id WAA101238; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:10:48 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:10:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine source? #010211@17:40:56.26192 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mark Crispin X-Cc: "Karl F. Larsen" , Pine Discussion Forum , X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 77 On 02/12/01 at 7:15pm -0800, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote: > > You forget that the Pine developers started out with Unix Pine and only > > later ported it to DOS and then Win32. So I'll bet you they use gcc to > > build PC-Pine just like they do for Unix Pine. > > Sorry, you lost your bet. We have always used the Microsoft C compiler to > build PC Pine. When the PC Pine work started, the choices were Borland > and Microsoft. Gcc wasn't ported to the PC until many years later. > > We generally use the native C compiler in any case. On systems such as > Linux (and my NeXT workstation), that means GCC. On OSF/1 and AIX, it > does not. Good thing I didn't bet any money. :) But you seem to be ignoring the more important part of my question, which basically was: Why can't the PC-Pine source be released? Are you authorized to discuss that publicly? If not, who is? Or does it require something like a Freedom of Information Act request to pry that information out? Thanks. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:08:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id XAA09721 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 12 23:08:45 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA25383; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:08:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA27672; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:07:57 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA18884 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:05:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA62546; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:05:50 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:05:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine source? #010211@17:40:56.26192 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Mark Crispin X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 78 On 02/12/01 at 10:10pm -0800, Scott Leibrand But you seem to be ignoring the more important part of my question, which > basically was: Why can't the PC-Pine source be released? Are you > authorized to discuss that publicly? If not, who is? Or does it require > something like a Freedom of Information Act request to pry that > information out? My apologies for that FOIA remark. While that would be a perfectly valid method (legally) to obtain this information, it goes completely against the spirit of openness and helpfulness of the Pine community, and I'm sure it will be unnecessary. I realize that there are lots of reasons why technical people shouldn't be allowed to comment on legal matters, and at Mark's suggestion, I've taken this issue up with the management of the UW's Computing and Communications Department. I'll keep everyone updated as I hear back from them. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:23:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id BAA12817 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 13 01:23:56 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA12433; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:23:55 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA19436; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:23:34 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA33576 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:20:37 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA24893 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:20:37 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1D9KZF18515; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:20:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:20:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can't search that character set In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David Bradford X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 79 *** David Bradford (dbradfor@teleport.com) wrote in the pine-info list on...: :) I can open my INBOX and read my mail fine. But when I try to do an :) aggregate Select (;) pine responds with: :) :) [Can't search that character set.] Pine is determining the charset of the text you entered to select and somehow it does not match what your imap server can search in. Are you trying to search by From or subject (maybe all text?). Could you tell us exactly how to reproduce the error you are receiving? -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:55:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id BAA31260 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 13 01:55:48 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA13053; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:55:47 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA27952; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:55:23 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA106512 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:54:25 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA15159; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:54:24 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 03:54:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:54:15 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:54:15 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine source? #010211@17:40:56.26192 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 80 On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote: > > But you seem to be ignoring the more important part of my question, which > > basically was: Why can't the PC-Pine source be released? Are you > > authorized to discuss that publicly? If not, who is? Or does it require > > something like a Freedom of Information Act request to pry that > > information out? > > My apologies for that FOIA remark. While that would be a perfectly valid > method (legally) to obtain this information, it goes completely against > the spirit of openness and helpfulness of the Pine community, and I'm sure > it will be unnecessary. I realize that there are lots of reasons why > technical people shouldn't be allowed to comment on legal matters, and at > Mark's suggestion, I've taken this issue up with the management of the > UW's Computing and Communications Department. I'll keep everyone updated > as I hear back from them. I find all of this very weird. The folks from the Pine Team have stated at different times that the source code for PC-Pine is not available for release to the public since it contains embedded code whose copyright prohibits them from distribution. So, it matters not if the code is the spell checker, the sorting functions, or a parser for the pinerc file. I don't believe the folks at UW have to disclose to you or anyone else the details. You should be joyous over the fact that some (probably commercial) company has given (maybe) code to UW to include in PC-pine and hasn't demanded a royalty giving PC-pine a price of $29.95. FOIA? Somehow I suspect that only applies to government documents...and maybe only federal at that.... Geess.... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager Syntegra Asia Region From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:53:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA03181 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:53:08 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 13 09:53:07 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA07448; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:53:07 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA29520; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:52:34 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA111326 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:49:58 -0800 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA04909 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:49:58 -0800 Received: from X ([12.72.228.54]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010213174954.JJWW7738.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@X>; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:49:54 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:53:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine source? #010211@17:40:56.26192 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jamesqf@postoffice.att.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 81 On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Edward M Greshko wrote: > The folks from the Pine Team have stated at different times that the > source code for PC-Pine is not available for release to the public since > it contains embedded code whose copyright prohibits them from > distribution. > > So, it matters not if the code is the spell checker, the sorting > functions, or a parser for the pinerc file. I don't believe the folks at > UW have to disclose to you or anyone else the details. Of course they don't HAVE to do anything they don't want to, since it's their product. We're just trying to convince them that they SHOULD want to, in order to have more happy users. I know it's frequently been stated that they can't release the source because the spell checker is copyrighted. What I'm asking is why on earth it needs to have a spell checker in the first place? That's a function that, IMHO, is much better done in brainware :-) The more so as those who would want or need it thing are probably all using MS-Outlook or some other program designed for the mentally self-handicapped. I do think PC-Pine is the best mail program I've found for Windoze, but it still has some pretty annoying problems. The Pine development team doesn't seem interested in addressing them, so it seems that the only way they'll be fixed is for them to release the source. James From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:54:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA15823 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 13 10:54:54 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA09819; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:54:54 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA34158; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:54:22 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA76960 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:53:09 -0800 Received: from aloha.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu43432@aloha.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.134]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA24149 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:53:06 -0800 Received: from localhost by aloha.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21566; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:52:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:52:46 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: spell-checker (was: Re: pc-pine source?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 82 On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, James wrote: [...] > I know it's frequently been stated that they can't release the source > because the spell checker is copyrighted. What I'm asking is why on > earth it needs to have a spell checker in the first place? That's a > function that, IMHO, is much better done in brainware :-) The more so > as those who would want or need it thing are probably all using > MS-Outlook or some other program designed for the mentally > self-handicapped. I'm a pretty good proofreader but a pretty poor typist, so I'm grateful for the spell-checker to catch inadvertent typos before I go on to proofread... and the spell-checker won't get the difference between "to" and "too" or "their" and "there" if you misused them, or made a typo that was a real word in its own context, but it is a big help especially with a large piece of writing. Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:08:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA07972 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 13 11:08:09 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA27323; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:08:09 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA22248; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:07:32 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA111306 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:04:59 -0800 Received: from oc.odessa.edu (oc.odessa.edu [198.213.192.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA27192 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:04:58 -0800 Received: from CHUCK ([10.12.40.1]) by oc.odessa.edu (OCMAIL) with ESMTP id NAA25080 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:04:53 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:08:02 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Chuck Everett To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pc-pine image viewing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: ceverett@odessa.edu X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 83 I'm trying to link my pc-pine to view images. The mimetype file is in place, the mailcap file is in place and the image line reads: image/*;C:\Program Files\Netscape\Communicator\Program\netscape.exe %s pine fires up the netscape viewer and attempts to see the image indicated using the command: C:\Program Files\Netscape\Communicator\Program\netscape.exe c:\windows\TEMP\im701037.jpe I get a failure message that netscape can't find the image indicated. When I explore windows\temp, it isn't there. It appears that pine is not writing out the temp file image that the viewers need. Is this a known problem, or am I just configured or doing it wrong. yes, I've tried other viewers with the same results. *********************** Information Systems ****************************** Chuck Everett Odessa College Database/Systems Administrator 201 W. University Odessa, TX 79764 E-mail : ceverett@odessa.edu Web : www.odessa.edu IBM RS6000 model F50x4 - AIX v4.3.3 Phone : 915-335-6664 Unidata v5.1.p19 - COL16.0 - BEN5.0 FAX : 915-335-6846 ProgLibrary: http://odessa.edu (admin ftp site) ************************************************************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA08662 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 13 11:25:22 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA10985; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:25:21 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA22172; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:24:46 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA61792 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:23:52 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA11541 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:23:52 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1DJNjF128128; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:23:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:23:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pc-pine image viewing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chuck Everett X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 84 *** Chuck Everett (ceverett@odessa.edu) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I get a failure message that netscape can't find the image indicated. :) When I explore windows\temp, it isn't there. It appears that pine is not :) writing out the temp file image that the viewers need. :) :) Is this a known problem, or am I just configured or doing it wrong. Chuck, This is a bug introduced in Pine4.32 which was fixed in version 4.33. The only possible way to fix it in Pc-Pine is by upgrading to the newest version. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:04:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id QAA15395 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 13 16:04:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA21178; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:04:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA21720; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:03:45 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA103256 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:02:20 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA15065 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:02:19 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:02:13 -0600 Received: from [129.179.16.63] by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:02:09 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:01:47 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: pc-pine source? #010211@17:40:56.26192 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "James" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 85 James, > Of course they don't HAVE to do anything they don't want to, since it's > their product. We're just trying to convince them that they SHOULD want > to, in order to have more happy users. I believe they DO want to. > I know it's frequently been stated that they can't release the source > because the spell checker is copyrighted. What I'm asking is why on > earth it needs to have a spell checker in the first place? That's a > function that, IMHO, is much better done in brainware :-) Well, brain-ware is much more fallible in some individuals. Not only that, I know a fair amount (since I live in Taiwan) of non-native English speakers who rely on spell checkers to a large extent. They have had "nasty" experiences with westerners, mostly Americans (of which I happen to be one), inferring and directly telling them they are "stupid" because they couldn't spell. (BTW, my spell checker couldn't find "brainware" and it wasn't in the Webster's on my desk so you may want to consider a "-". :-) :-) ) > The more so as > those who would want or need it thing are probably all using MS-Outlook > or some other program designed for the mentally self-handicapped. Or even those who happen to be handicapped by the requirements of the company they work for. > I do think PC-Pine is the best mail program I've found for Windoze, but > it still has some pretty annoying problems. The Pine development team > doesn't seem interested in addressing them, so it seems that the only > way they'll be fixed is for them to release the source. The Pine developer's eventually get around to fixing things if you document the problems and ask them nicely. Problems are *never* fixed as fast as one likes. In a large part I find the pine team much more responsive and open than software developers that require payment for their products. This includes both commercial and shareware. Try to keep some perspective. Pine is *not* "open source". As a matter of fact, it is only through good graces that UW has shared pine and the source with the general public. The salaries of the pine development team is paid by UW and the priorities of UW come first. Ed From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:32:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id QAA08847 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 13 16:32:40 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA06626; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:32:39 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA28822; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:32:15 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA125332 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:31:23 -0800 Received: from smtp05.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT003.ONEMAIN.COM [63.208.208.73]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA22062 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:31:22 -0800 Received: (qmail 10754 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 23:56:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MERCURY) ([216.26.45.174]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp05.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Feb 2001 23:56:19 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:47:04 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Bradford To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can't search that character set In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: da1019170@pop.onemain.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 86 On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** David Bradford (dbradfor@teleport.com) wrote in the pine-info list on...: > > :) I can open my INBOX and read my mail fine. But when I try to do an > :) aggregate Select (;) pine responds with: > :) > :) [Can't search that character set.] > > Pine is determining the charset of the text you entered to select and > somehow it does not match what your imap server can search in. Are you > trying to search by From or subject (maybe all text?). Could you tell us > exactly how to reproduce the error you are receiving? It seems to happen regardless of my search criteria. The only aggregate command that works is a Select All. My service provider is (was) Portland, OR based teleport.com. Teleport supports (supported) IMAP. Teleport was recently bought by onemain.com (which was soon thereafter bought by Earthlink). Neither onemain.com or earthlink.net support IMAP. My inbox-path in my pinerc file reads: inbox-path={mail.teleport.com/imap/user=dbradfor}INBOX This still works for retrieving E-mail. But since the acquisition of Teleport by OneMain, I've been getting the [Can't search that character set.] message. My hunch is they relocated my mail file to a OneMain/Earthlink non-IMAP server and Teleport's IMAP server is now being used simply for pass-thru access. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:14:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id RAA09691 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 13 17:14:41 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA23771; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:14:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA18858; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:14:22 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA110042 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:13:39 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA18403 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:13:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29581 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:13:35 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:13:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Accessing a remote POP3 server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 87 >From this account, I'm able to access three different remote POP3 mailboxes but there's a fourth that simply won't come up. I know that I have the address and format of the incoming-folders string in .pinerc right but each time I try to access it, I receive the message that the password that I've entered is incorrect. I don't know much more than just enough to be dangerous about POP3 servers ... does anybody have a clue that I might pass along to the techies at the ISP housing the server I'm trying to reach? -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:11:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA07916 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 14 12:11:30 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA03336; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:11:29 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA22740; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:10:20 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA44488 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:00:57 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA28708 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:00:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21460 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:00:55 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:00:55 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Filter weirdness in Pine 4.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 88 Is there a limit on the number of filtering rules you can have? I have nine defined and they're all there in .pinerc but when I actually go to the filtering rules list screen, the last one doesn't show. However, when I compose new mail (such as this message) I'm always prompted with a question as to whether I want to use that rule. In other words, it appears to be active but doesn't show up in the setup display. Physically, the missing rule appears immediately below the last rule that does display and if I try to cursor down or hit the space bar when that particular rule is highlighted, I'm told that I'm at the bottom. In other words, only 8 rules will display, seemingly, even though I have 9 created. -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:30:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA12241 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 14 12:30:43 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA03966; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:30:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA30224; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:30:09 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA18848 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:26:43 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA10888 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:26:42 -0800 Received: (qmail 27460 invoked by uid 1828); 14 Feb 2001 20:26:41 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:26:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: saving into other folders with show all headers on MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 89 Ok, I think I figured out what the deal was with my messages getting "messed up" when saving them to other folders.. (Specificially it was when saving from my suspected_spam folder back to my INBOX.) If I am in show all headers mode, and I save the message to another mail folder, the headers are DUPLICATED.. And I get a wacky message -- sometimes the subject and such info in pine is messed up from the original. I *really like* the fact that when I reply to a message in show all headers mode it still shows all headers.. But it seems to me that *saving* a message should simply duplicate it and not munge it in any way regardless of header showing or any other settings. pine 4.33 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:12:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA28560 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 14 13:12:38 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA05197; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:12:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA29004; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:11:59 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA26386 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:08:00 -0800 Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.77]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA13470 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:07:59 -0800 Received: from line130.slip.csx.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.99.130] helo=cam.ac.uk) by orange.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14T99Y-0006io-00; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:07:56 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:06:22 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Barry Landy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Filter weirdness in Pine 4.33 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Walt Smith X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: bl10@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 90 I have seen a lot of oddities to do with the length of the PINERC (which contains filters and the like). When something gets too big (I am unsure of what) things get dropped off the end; I have seen this with various rules and not just filters. I just worked around it by having fewer. On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Walt Smith wrote: :>Is there a limit on the number of filtering rules you can have? I have :>nine defined and they're all there in .pinerc but when I actually go to :>the filtering rules list screen, the last one doesn't show. However, when :>I compose new mail (such as this message) I'm always prompted with a :>question as to whether I want to use that rule. In other words, it :>appears to be active but doesn't show up in the setup display. :>Physically, the missing rule appears immediately below the last rule that :>does display and if I try to cursor down or hit the space bar when that :>particular rule is highlighted, I'm told that I'm at the bottom. In other :>words, only 8 rules will display, seemingly, even though I have 9 created. :> :> -- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 192, Gilbert Road Direct line: +44 1223 334713 Cambridge CB4 3PB Home: +44-1223-570417 Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:52:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA16872 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:52:36 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 14 13:52:35 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA22737; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:52:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA24538; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:51:51 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA42654 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:49:32 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA06604 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:49:28 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp128999.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.118]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02743; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:43:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1ELnvF03431; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:49:57 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:49:57 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: saving into other folders with show all headers on In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 91 On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote: >Ok, I think I figured out what the deal was with my messages getting "messed >up" when saving them to other folders.. (Specificially it was when saving >from my suspected_spam folder back to my INBOX.) > >If I am in show all headers mode, and I save the message to another >mail folder, the headers are DUPLICATED.. And I get a wacky message -- >sometimes the subject and such info in pine is messed up from the original. I just tried this and couldn't replicate it. Red Hat Linux 7.0 plus PINE 4.33-2. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen though.. Just giving feedback.. Perhaps your spam filter is calling formail or something and accidentally duping headers? Just a thought to throw in.. Maybe there is a bug though. >I *really like* the fact that when I reply to a message in show >all headers mode it still shows all headers.. But it seems to >me that *saving* a message should simply duplicate it and not >munge it in any way regardless of header showing or any other >settings. > >pine 4.33 Can't reproduce.. Can anyone else reproduce this (in Red Hat Linux any version - with offical Red Hat RPMS?) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:19:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA16072 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 14 14:19:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA23691; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:19:14 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA09634; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:18:48 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA100948 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:16:42 -0800 Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA22242 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:16:41 -0800 Received: from violet.cs.sc.edu (IDENT:gopalan@violet.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.129]) by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA33371 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost) by violet.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA08600 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:16:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:16:27 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: saving into other folders with show all headers on In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-info Mailing List X-Authentication-Warning: violet.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 92 On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote: > If I am in show all headers mode, and I save the message to > another mail folder, the headers are DUPLICATED.. And I get a > wacky message -- sometimes the subject and such info in pine is > messed up from the original. Does this happen only when you save to INBOX? What is the exact folder name that you give Pine to save the message to? Occasionally, I've known it to mess up on just INBOX, and have had to specify {mail.example.com}INBOX -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:39:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id WAA17055 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 14 22:39:30 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA19558; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:39:29 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id WAA31378; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:39:13 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id WAA111360 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:36:51 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA12622 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:36:50 -0800 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id WAA32297; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:36:50 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id WAA00909; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:36:50 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:36:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Filter weirdness in Pine 4.33 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Walt Smith X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 93 I'm not aware of any length limits or number of filters limits. You should be able to have as many as you want. Would you mind sending your .pinerc file? How about a debug file produced by running pine -d9? Send to pine@cac.washington.edu. Thanks. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:13:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA16500 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 15 13:13:41 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA25704; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:13:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA32162; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:13:08 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA136356 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:11:01 -0800 Received: from evelyn (dial-18.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.152.237]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA25388 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:10:59 -0800 Received: from Spooler by evelyn (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000004; 15 Feb 01 22:11:11 +0100 Received: from spooler by evelyn (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 15 Feb 01 22:10:57 +0100 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by evelyn (Mercury/32 v3.21c) with ESMTP ID MG000003; 15 Feb 01 22:10:54 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:10:54 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Akis Karnouskos To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Multi-language suppport for PC-pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: kar@mailhub.fokus.gmd.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 94 Dear all, Is there multi-language support built within pine for PC ? I use both unix and pc versions. In Unix there is no problem for me typing in German or in Greek. However if I try to do this via Win2000 I get nothing on the display. I can read everything ok (the special letters by changing the windows fonts) but I can not write. The PC has installed multi-language support (and there is no problem with other applications). I wonder if anyone had similar problems and if anyone has any good ideas what might be wrong. Thank you in advance, akis -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:12:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA00210 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 16 10:12:07 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA07137; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:12:07 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA20082; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:11:24 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA26086 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:06:03 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA16985 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:06:03 -0800 Received: from students.aurora.edu (mail.aurora.edu [64.107.89.49]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA23626 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:06:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (slowe@localhost) by students.aurora.edu (8.11.1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1GI5WW07405 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:05:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:05:32 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Handling Excel Spreadsheets within PC-Pine 4.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 95 I am attempting to process an Excel spreadsheet sent to me as an attachment. When I attempt to open the spreadsheet, PC-Pine does not how to handle the attachment. I have changed my mimetype file several times: application/excel xls application/msexcel xls having reviewed the pine-info archives for tips/suggestions. Do I need to change my mailcap file also? BTW -- MS Word Documents are handled properly. Thanks in advance. -- Steve Lowe Aurora University -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:35:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA29908 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 16 11:35:41 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA26911; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:35:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA17346; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:35:12 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA96622 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:34:06 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA04056 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:34:06 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1GJY6F481890; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:34:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:34:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug in selection in newsgroups? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 96 Hello, I was trying to do a "Select by date" in newsgroups, so I pressed "; D ^X" which should give the date of the message where the cursor is on. I only got "0-???-1970". Certainly this is not correct. Is ^X, not supposed to work on newsgroups? Also, I do remember having read once that you could cancel a command while it was executing in a newsgroup. Since Pine was taking too long in doing the selection I pressed cancel, but the command was never cancelled. I could not find this information again, I thought I read in in the source code, but I could not find it, so there are two questions here: - Can you cancel a command while it's being executed in a newsgroup? (I think I could do that before) and - If you can not cancel a command while it's being executed in a newsgroup, can you add this feature (again)? Also, it would be very nice if Pine had some kind of "cancel" key to each process. E.g., "cancel while opening a newsgroup", etc. Thanks for your consideration -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:11:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA29160 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:11:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 16 18:11:15 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA21201; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:11:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA31098; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:10:57 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA57542 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:08:17 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA06789 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:08:17 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA05604; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:08:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA96850; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:08:10 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:08:10 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Feature Request: Include help for select menus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Development Team , Pine Info Mailing List X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 97 Pine team, I just got an e-mail from someone who couldn't figure out what the Flip selection command does (under ; to select when there are already messages selected). I can't find any help screens in those menus, which is the first place I'd look if I didn't know what that command did. Could you please consider adding help screens for the select menus? Or, if you'd rather not do that for consistency's sake, you might want to reword the command from "Flip selected" to "Flip (invert) selection" or something like that. Thanks. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:14:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA04738 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 16 18:13:57 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA21242; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:13:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA29826; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:13:18 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA110720 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:09:57 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA08692 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:09:57 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA21177 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:09:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA74034 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:09:49 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:09:47 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Why ^X? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 98 Just out of curiosity, does anyone know why ^X was chosen as the command to send a message? It's not very intuitive, and dangerously close to ^C. I'm not asking to change it - that would cause way more trouble. I'm just curious. :) -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:39:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA03463 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:39:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 16 18:39:15 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA06190; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:39:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA18754; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:38:58 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA40732 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:36:47 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA17905 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:36:46 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.58.34]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3538E12C50 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 08:06:43 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA01866 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 07:58:17 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 07:58:17 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Why ^X? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 99 On Feb 16, 2001 at 18:09, Scott Leibrand wrote: >Just out of curiosity, does anyone know why ^X was chosen as the command >to send a message? It's not very intuitive, and dangerously close to ^C. I'm guessing: Emacs. -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see A transistor protected by a fast-acting fuse will protect the fuse by blowing first. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:34:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA12372 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 16 19:34:03 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA22684; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:34:03 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA28220; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:33:47 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA08378 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:31:44 -0800 Received: from localhost.edlund.org (m96.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.214.96]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA29797; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:31:42 -0800 Received: by localhost.edlund.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 441AF41129; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:31:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.edlund.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4C541045; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:31:37 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:31:37 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Why ^X? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 100 On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote: > Just out of curiosity, does anyone know why ^X was chosen as the command > to send a message? It's not very intuitive, and dangerously close to ^C. What would you like? Why do you think it was chosen in Emacs? The proximty of the Control key and the X key on most keyboards is very good. I just wish I could press Ctrl-X twice to send so that I don't have to use my other hand to press Y or Enter. *wink* *wink* -- Henrik Edlund http://www.edlund.org/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:04:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA05454 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:04:57 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 17 20:04:56 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA31687; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:04:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA19562; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:04:28 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA122034 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:01:29 -0800 Received: from nw178.netaddress.usa.net (nw178.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.78]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id UAA19244 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:01:29 -0800 Received: (qmail 8954 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2001 04:01:28 -0000 Received: from 204.68.24.78 by nw178 for [204.68.29.77] via web-mailer(34FM.0700.15B.01) on Sun Feb 18 04:01:28 GMT 2001 Message-Id: <20010218040128.8953.qmail@nw178.netaddress.usa.net> Date: 17 Feb 2001 21:01:28 MST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: John Evans To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Can't create transcript file Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: Pine Info List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 101 Greetings, I've searched through the mailing list archives and I've found this question asked once before, but the answer to the problem was not in the archive. If someone would be kind enough to answer this for me, I would appreciate it. When attempting to send an email from a non-root user using pine, I g= et the following error, "Mail not sent: .0.0 Can't create transcript file =2E/xff1I3u2j05481: Permissi". I'm assuming that it is telling me that I = do not have permission to write to that filename (which does change.) What needs to be done to resolve this situation? Here are some vital stats: Red Hat 7.0 (with many upgrades) Pine 4.33 Sendmail 8.11.2 (Installed from PLD sendmail-8.11.2-3.src.rpm) Linux kernel: 2.2.16 Thanks for any assistance that you can offer, John Evans ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:45:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id VAA05256 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 17 21:45:48 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA00733; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:45:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA33508; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:45:22 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA106656 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:43:17 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA24626 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:43:16 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:43:11 -0600 Received: from misty.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:43:06 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:42:43 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Can't create transcript file In-Reply-To: <20010218040128.8953.qmail@nw178.netaddress.usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "John Evans" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 102 John, > When attempting to send an email from a non-root user using pine, I get > the following error, "Mail not sent: .0.0 Can't create transcript file > ./xff1I3u2j05481: Permissi". I'm assuming that it is telling me that I do not > have permission to write to that filename (which does change.) > > What needs to be done to resolve this situation? Here are some vital > stats: > Red Hat 7.0 (with many upgrades) > Pine 4.33 > Sendmail 8.11.2 (Installed from PLD sendmail-8.11.2-3.src.rpm) > Linux kernel: 2.2.16 > > Thanks for any assistance that you can offer, I've a system running "stock" Red Hat 7.0 with pine 4.33 and I don't have this problem. The problem is apparently a non-root user calling "sendmail" and permissions on a directory being set too strict. A simple work-around would be to specify an "smtp-server" in the setup for pine. This way pine will talk to sendmail on port 25 rather than calling the binary. Ed From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:34:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA08355 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 18 00:33:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA18569; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:33:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA24798; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:33:41 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA119184 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:30:44 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f134.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.134]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA17626 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:30:44 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:30:41 -0800 Received: from 24.22.70.238 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 08:30:40 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 08:30:40 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Matthew Badanek" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Any way to import Outlook Express Inbox into PC-Pine? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [24.22.70.238] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2001 08:30:41.0303 (UTC) FILETIME=[14158A70:01C09985] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 103 Hi All, I'm clearly not as computer savvy as most of you out there, so please bear with me. I recently graduated from a university, and they have just closed my email account. I had used Pine on their Linux system to send & receive email. Before my account was closed, I decided to archive all of my old incoming and outgoing email messages from their server to my home computer. I was able to FTP all of the sent-mail folders to my computer, but wasn't able to do that with the Inbox, so I downloaded all my Inbox messages into Outlook Express 5. The consultants at my school suggested that I use PC-Pine to view the contents of my local folders, which has worked great to view my old sent-mail folders, but the only way I am able to view my old incoming messages is through Outlook Express. My question is: is there any way to convert the Inbox.dbx file that Outlook Express created into an Inbox folder that PC-Pine can view? I would love to be able to use the same program to view both my archived incoming and outgoing mail. Thanks in advance, Matt Badanek mbadanek@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:51:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA19895 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 18 09:51:06 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA13522; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:51:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA33884; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:50:48 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA38608 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:49:24 -0800 Received: from wetdream.smotrs.org (lsanca1-ar5-208-067.dsl.gtei.net [4.33.208.67]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA09931 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:49:23 -0800 Received: from nitedream (nitedream.smotrs.org [192.168.0.14]) by wetdream.smotrs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id JAA15348 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:49:27 -0800 Message-Id: <000901c099d3$23073d00$0e00a8c0@smotrs.org> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:49:26 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "S.Toms" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Any way to import Outlook Express Inbox into PC-Pine? References: X-To: "Pine-info" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 104 Try the following site, theres a program called mbx2mbox which should do what you want http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~dwc3q/code/index.html or you can search for it on sourceforge which I beleive has a link for it as well. Anyway, hope it does what you need. -- S.Toms - tomas@primenet.com - www.primenet.com/~tomas SuSE Linux v7.0+ - Kernel 2.2.18 When you're not looking at it, this fortune is written in FORTRAN. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Badanek" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 8:30 AM Subject: Any way to import Outlook Express Inbox into PC-Pine? > Hi All, > > I'm clearly not as computer savvy as most of you out there, so please bear > with me. I recently graduated from a university, and they have just closed > my email account. I had used Pine on their Linux system to send & receive > email. Before my account was closed, I decided to archive all of my old > incoming and outgoing email messages from their server to my home computer. > I was able to FTP all of the sent-mail folders to my computer, but wasn't > able to do that with the Inbox, so I downloaded all my Inbox messages into > Outlook Express 5. The consultants at my school suggested that I use PC-Pine > to view the contents of my local folders, which has worked great to view my > old sent-mail folders, but the only way I am able to view my old incoming > messages is through Outlook Express. My question is: is there any way to > convert the Inbox.dbx file that Outlook Express created into an Inbox folder > that PC-Pine can view? I would love to be able to use the same program to > view both my archived incoming and outgoing mail. > > Thanks in advance, > > Matt Badanek > mbadanek@hotmail.com > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:37:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA10940 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:37:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 19 12:37:10 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA09145; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:37:09 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA32018; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:36:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA17216 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:33:38 -0800 Received: from usc.edu (root@usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA31076 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:33:38 -0800 Received: from skat.usc.edu (root@skat.usc.edu [128.125.253.131]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id MAA07332; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from cohiba (cohiba.usc.edu [128.125.10.160]) by skat.usc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/usc) with ESMTP id f1JKXWc24743; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:33:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:35:45 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Michael D. Walker" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Why ^X? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: walker@usc.edu X-To: Henrik Edlund X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 105 >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote: > >> Just out of curiosity, does anyone know why ^X was chosen as the command >> to send a message? It's not very intuitive, and dangerously close to ^C. > >What would you like? Why do you think it was chosen in Emacs? The proximty >of the Control key and the X key on most keyboards is very good. Holy Emacs was created before the PC so the key was still to the left of the key, where it belongs. >I just wish I could press Ctrl-X twice to send so that I don't have to use >my other hand to press Y or Enter. *wink* *wink* I'm surpised that there's no send-without-confirm setup option. MC must be worried about wasted bandwidth, though it's too late for that... >Henrik Edlund >http://www.edlund.org/ > > "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. >Naturally they became heroes." > Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:22:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA20292 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 05:22:52 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA27458; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:22:52 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA19656; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:22:36 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA53454 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:18:23 -0800 Received: from localhost.edlund.org (m96.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.214.96]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA09707 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:18:21 -0800 Received: by localhost.edlund.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 79FA941139; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:18:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.edlund.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EF541045; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:18:17 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:18:17 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Why ^X? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Michael D. Walker" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 106 On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Michael D. Walker wrote: > Holy Emacs was created before the PC so the key was still > to the left of the key, where it belongs. And hence close to the X. -- Henrik Edlund http://www.edlund.org/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:00:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id IAA21650 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:00:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 08:00:11 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA13427; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:00:11 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA32442; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:59:48 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA44836 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:55:01 -0800 Received: from flag.blackened.net (postfix@flag.blackened.net [208.206.78.232]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA10815 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:55:01 -0800 Received: by flag.blackened.net (Postfix, from userid 1048) id 47E426772; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flag.blackened.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E86B4DD6 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:54:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:54:59 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Institute for Social Ecology To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: sending msg from command prompt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: ise@flag.blackened.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 107 Hi, I searched the Pine pages and email list archive for instructions on using the -I switch, but didn't come up with much. I am hoping that someone on this list can clarrify what is wrong with this command: pine -attach ise-mojo.zip -I^x,y ise@tao.ca What is was hoping to do is automatically send an attachement automatically from the command prompt, so I could execute it from a cron job. The syntax seems fine to me, but obviously it is not working. It still brings up the compose email screen, where I then have to ^x and y it manualy. Any ideas? Thank you for your time michael -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:27:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id IAA30359 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 08:27:18 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA31684; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:27:18 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA15324; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:26:56 -0800 Received: from bp15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@bp15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.205]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA42102 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:24:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by bp15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA78378; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:24:27 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:24:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sending msg from command prompt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Institute for Social Ecology X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 108 On 02/20/01 at 7:54am -0800, Institute for Social Ecology I searched the Pine pages and email list archive for instructions on using > the -I switch, but didn't come up with much. I am hoping that someone on > this list can clarrify what is wrong with this command: > > pine -attach ise-mojo.zip -I^x,y ise@tao.ca > > What is was hoping to do is automatically send an attachement > automatically from the command prompt, so I could execute it from a cron > job. The syntax seems fine to me, but obviously it is not working. It > still brings up the compose email screen, where I then have to ^x and y it > manualy. That syntax only applies after you've applied Eduardo's "Pine sends e-mail from the command line" patch from http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/info/outgoing.html -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * Opinions expressed are mine. Everyone else can get their own. :) * * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:12:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA29116 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 09:12:24 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA15881; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:12:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA33946; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:11:55 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA46988 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:08:40 -0800 Received: from amigo-02.int.iamigo.com ([63.97.254.204]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA28053 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:08:39 -0800 Received: from devpro.int.iamigo.com ([172.20.20.89]) by amigo-02.int.iamigo.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id D776HZLH; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:03:38 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:13:26 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jamie Sparks To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sending msg from command prompt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: jsparks@amigo-02.iamigo.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 109 Sorry if I'm being a jackass here, but when I'm reading my msg's I can't seem to get the expanded headers to toggle on and off using 'h' or 'H' or '^h' or '^H'. I remember this functionality from the solaris versions I've run and it seems to be supported based on the pc-pine help. any pointers would be appreciated. Jamie p.s. pc-pine 4.33 on NT-4.0 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:19:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA03695 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 09:19:28 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA16094; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:19:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA21254; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:18:10 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA33004 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:14:18 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA24327 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:14:17 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1KHEEF195846; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:14:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:14:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sending msg from command prompt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jamie Sparks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 110 *** Jamie Sparks (jsparks@iamigo.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Sorry if I'm being a jackass here, but when I'm reading my msg's :) I can't seem to get the expanded headers to toggle on and off using :) 'h' or 'H' or '^h' or '^H'. I remember this functionality from :) the solaris versions I've run and it seems to be supported based :) on the pc-pine help. Before you can use the "h"eaders command, press M S C and [X] enable-full-header-cmd -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:23:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA31384 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 09:22:57 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA16237; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:22:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA07898; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:22:07 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA38606 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:16:43 -0800 Received: from amigo-02.int.iamigo.com (host204.iamigo.com [63.97.254.204] (may be forged)) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA24979 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:16:42 -0800 Received: from devpro.int.iamigo.com ([172.20.20.89]) by amigo-02.int.iamigo.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id D776HZLS; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:11:37 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:21:26 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jamie Sparks To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sending msg from command prompt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jsparks@amigo-02.iamigo.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 111 Thanks Eduardo! (I was being a jackass after all.) Jamie On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Jamie Sparks (jsparks@iamigo.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) Sorry if I'm being a jackass here, but when I'm reading my msg's > :) I can't seem to get the expanded headers to toggle on and off using > :) 'h' or 'H' or '^h' or '^H'. I remember this functionality from > :) the solaris versions I've run and it seems to be supported based > :) on the pc-pine help. > > Before you can use the "h"eaders command, press M S C and > > [X] enable-full-header-cmd > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:25:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA14649 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 09:25:38 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA01434; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:25:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA26050; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:25:19 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA39492 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:21:33 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA31324 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:21:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1KHSHq19475 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:58:17 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:58:17 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sending msg from command prompt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 112 *** Jamie Sparks wrote on pine-info list today at 12:13:26 -0500: > Sorry if I'm being a jackass here, but when I'm reading my msg's > I can't seem to get the expanded headers to toggle on and off using > 'h' or 'H' or '^h' or '^H'. I remember this functionality from > the solaris versions I've run and it seems to be supported based > on the pc-pine help. Go to [M]ain -> [S]etup -> [C]onfiguration [X] Enable-full-header-cmd Do you have this enabled? p.s. Please include an appropriate subject line in your message whenever you post a message on the list. -- Mohit Agarwal (mohit@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:33:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA00672 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 09:33:38 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA16635; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:33:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA17618; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:33:13 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA90888 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:30:50 -0800 Received: from amigo-02.int.iamigo.com ([63.97.254.204]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA00992 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:30:50 -0800 Received: from devpro.int.iamigo.com ([172.20.20.89]) by amigo-02.int.iamigo.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id D776HZL8; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:25:49 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:35:37 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jamie Sparks To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sending msg from command prompt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mohit Agarwal X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jsparks@amigo-02.iamigo.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 113 > p.s. Please include an appropriate subject line in your message whenever you > post a message on the list. An oversight on my part. I replied to a previous msg and forgot to amend the subject line. Jamie > -- > Mohit Agarwal (mohit@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:23:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA16721 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 11:23:42 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA20682; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:23:42 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA24552; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:23:07 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA58806 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:21:32 -0800 Received: from naos.cc.umanitoba.ca (root@naos.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.16.122]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA05638 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:21:31 -0800 Received: from UManitoba.CA (ndonald.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.16.95]) by naos.cc.umanitoba.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA15327 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:21:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3A92C293.C363F85E@UManitoba.CA> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:16:35 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nick Donaldson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pie, solaris 8 and locking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Info X-Accept-Language: en,pdf X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 114 Hello all. Has anyone had any problems with pine 4.2 in Solaris 8? We are running Solaris 8 on some of our machines and we have problems with pine and locking. Anyone run into anything like this? -- Nick Donaldson Academic Computing and Networking E-mail: Nick_Donaldson@UManitoba.CA 603 Engineering Bldg. Phone: (204) 474-8649 University of Manitoba Fax: (204) 474-7515 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:48:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA22283 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 12:48:49 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA23566; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:48:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA24100; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:48:06 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA77000 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:45:59 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA18572 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:45:58 -0800 Received: (qmail 6434 invoked by uid 1828); 20 Feb 2001 20:45:58 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:45:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine problems with failure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 115 pine 4.30 (same disclaimer - I'll update it at some point after OSX ships!) first of all, the "quell lock warnings" pref doesn't seem to actually quell them.. I see the lock warnings all the time (I often run two mailers at one time). Maybe I'm misinterpreting what it does but the help seems to say that I'll never see a lock warning with that option turned on. My main problem: I just sent a mail and first it timed out (I said yes to break connection to server). I immediately tried to send again, and it sent, but was unable to save it to my sent-mail folder. "Append FAILED!!!" or something like that is what it said. Anyway, the resulting message was then: [Message sent and saved to .] I just got new mail or I'd've copied the exact thing. Obviously this is a cosmetic bug. It should probably just say [Message sent] or be more explicit and say [Message sent but NOT saved to because of ] -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:55:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA04645 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 20 14:55:42 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA13603; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:55:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA18892; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:54:33 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA40000 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:49:07 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA26095 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:49:07 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id OAA25700 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:49:06 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-89.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.89]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA04181 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:49:06 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:49:06 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can't create transcript file In-Reply-To: <20010218040128.8953.qmail@nw178.netaddress.usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 116 One possibility would be that your sendmail is not set uid root, which it should be. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:08:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA28599 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 21 14:08:32 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA31355; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:08:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA24878; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:08:03 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA70110 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:03:27 -0800 Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA15231 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:03:27 -0800 Received: from 122.reno-01-02rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net ([12.72.144.122]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010221220323.DBJP27260.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@122.reno-01-02rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net> for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:03:23 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:05:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sharing Pine & PC-Pine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: jamesqf@postoffice.att.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 117 I have both Linux and Windoze installed on my machine, and would like to have both access the same mail files, so that I won't have to quit Linux to look at the mail I received while I was running Windoze, or vice versa. In Linux, I've mounted the Windoze partition as /f, so in the .pinerc file I set "folder-collections=Mail f:\home\mail\[*.mtx]". Now from Pine, I can do an "L" command, and see the list of folders in the mail directory. However, when I try to open one of them, more often than not Pine simply stalls in the open. (But strangely enough, not on every one: I can open one or two of the dozen or so.) Has anyone done this before, or have ideas as to what might be going on? I'm using 4.21 on both systems. Thanks, James -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:56:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA09695 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 11:56:50 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA16779; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:56:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA32332; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:56:19 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA42546 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:54:05 -0800 Received: from soviet.maddler.net (william.maddler.net [195.120.189.30]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA16386 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:54:03 -0800 Received: from soviet.maddler.net (maddler@soviet.maddler.net [195.120.189.30]) by soviet.maddler.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1MKuox30911 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:56:50 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: William Maddler To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: disable HTML processing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 118 heya all... is there a way to avoid HTML messages from being interpreted? thx... :) -- ::::.~.::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: /V\ PENGUIN WILLIAM::MADDLER community manager :: :: /(_)\ POWER http://comunita.bid.it :: :: ^ ^ www.bid.it maddler.net ecn.org pollodigomma.org :: ::::::::::::Message released under the GNU/GPL license:::::::::::: -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:18:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA25944 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 12:18:45 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA31661; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:18:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA26886; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:17:42 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA21836 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:15:44 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com ([199.183.24.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA21526 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:15:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1MKFMe28140; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:15:22 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:15:22 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disable HTML processing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: William Maddler X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 119 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, William Maddler wrote: >is there a way to avoid HTML messages from being interpreted? Yes: [ Viewer Preferences ] [X] enable-msg-view-attachments [X] enable-msg-view-urls [X] enable-msg-view-web-hostnames [X] enable-msg-view-addresses [ ] enable-msg-view-forced-arrows [ ] prefer-plain-text The prefer-plain-text option is what you want. -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:26:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA32684 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 12:26:24 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA17948; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:26:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA28812; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:25:55 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA145248 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:25:03 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA32042 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:25:03 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1MKP1Y286618; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:25:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:25:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disable HTML processing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 120 *** Mike A. Harris (mharris@redhat.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, William Maddler wrote: :) :) >is there a way to avoid HTML messages from being interpreted? :) :) Yes: :) [snip] :) The prefer-plain-text option is what you want. Correct, but only if there's text and not html. In another words, you can have html displayed if there's no plain text attachment. I think in general the answer to the original question is no, although I think it should be configurable. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:43:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA14302 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 13:43:03 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA02040; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:43:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA23824; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:42:29 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA40506 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:26 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA14023 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:25 -0800 Received: (qmail 8865 invoked by uid 1828); 22 Feb 2001 21:40:24 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 1011 In-Reply-To: <200102220806.AAA17424@list2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 121 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 pine-info@u.washington.edu wrote: >From: James >I have both Linux and Windoze installed on my machine, and would like to >have both access the same mail files, so that I won't have to quit Linux >to look at the mail I received while I was running Windoze, or vice >versa. If you access your mail with IMAP rather than POP, it won't matter WHAT operating system you're running when you get mail, since it will all be on the server. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:06:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA09035 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 14:06:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA21624; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:06:14 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA20990; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:05:22 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA57460 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:04:32 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com ([199.183.24.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA06666 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:04:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1MM4SJ22522 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:04:28 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:04:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Always reply to all? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 122 How does one enable reply-to-all by default? -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:19:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA00515 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 14:19:23 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA22041; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:19:22 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA27296; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:18:49 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA45766 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:16:30 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA25164 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:16:30 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1MMGSO300484; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:16:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:16:28 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Always reply to all? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 123 *** Mike A. Harris (mharris@redhat.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) How does one enable reply-to-all by default? Good question, I don't think you can do it by default. We need another configuration option or a new menu when you press "R" to reply. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:55:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA16824 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 18:55:55 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA12038; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:55:55 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA28148; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:55:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA09280 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:50:25 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA07045 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:50:20 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.57.124]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD81182B6 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:20:12 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA04897 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:00:00 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:00:00 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disable HTML processing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 124 On Feb 22, 2001 at 12:25, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >*** Mike A. Harris (mharris@redhat.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: >:) On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, William Maddler wrote: >:) >is there a way to avoid HTML messages from being interpreted? >:) Yes: >:) [snip] >:) The prefer-plain-text option is what you want. > >Correct, but only if there's text and not html. In another words, you can >have html displayed if there's no plain text attachment. I think in >general the answer to the original question is no, although I think it >should be configurable. Always run with full headers? That shows the source. -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see Set laser printers to stun! From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:29:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA21063 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 19:29:26 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA31116; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:29:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA34004; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:28:59 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA72942 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:16:18 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA01179 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:16:18 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1N3GHO312594; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:16:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:16:17 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disable HTML processing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 125 *** Satya (satyap@satya.virtualave.net) wrote on Feb 23, 2001: :) >Correct, but only if there's text and not html. In another words, you can :) >have html displayed if there's no plain text attachment. I think in :) >general the answer to the original question is no, although I think it :) >should be configurable. :) :) Always run with full headers? That shows the source. Interesting alternative, it works when the body of the message is in HTML. When it is the attachment, things change a little bit, and in order to see the html code directly you have to pipe it to "cat". -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:44:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA17959 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:44:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 19:44:10 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA31360; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:44:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA27126; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:43:49 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA45806 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:41:18 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA04082 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:41:17 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.59.79]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283B515DF9 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:11:12 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA05377 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:12:47 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:12:46 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disable HTML processing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 126 On Feb 22, 2001 at 19:16, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >*** Satya (satyap@satya.virtualave.net) wrote on Feb 23, 2001: >:) Always run with full headers? That shows the source. > >Interesting alternative, it works when the body of the message is in HTML. >When it is the attachment, things change a little bit, and in order to see >the html code directly you have to pipe it to "cat". Pine 4.21 here. Having full headers on, I can '>' to the attachments list, see the (presumably multipart/alternative) text and HTML attachments, '>' to the HTML one, and see the source. Perhaps 4.21 is calling cat? I didn't tell it to do that. -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see @q=split(q??,qq?,JAPH \nacehklnorstubsqrfcnorkjpfdjpmfehi\ ljpag?);$i=0x13;while($i<=@q){print$q[ord($q[$i++])-0141]} From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:21:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id VAA10797 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Feb 22 21:21:23 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA14697; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:21:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id VAA07666; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:21:01 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id VAA34244 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:18:33 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA24461 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:18:32 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.58.164]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BBC2596D for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:48:26 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06832 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:50:29 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:50:29 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disable HTML processing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 127 On Feb 22, 2001 at 19:53, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >*** Satya (satyap@satya.virtualave.net) wrote on Feb 23, 2001: >:) Pine 4.21 here. Having full headers on, I can '>' to the attachments >:) list, see the (presumably multipart/alternative) text and HTML >:) attachments, '>' to the HTML one, and see the source. >:) >:) Perhaps 4.21 is calling cat? I didn't tell it to do that. > >Hmm I don't know what's going on in your side. Does that happen with >this message? Do you have an entry for text/html in your .mailcap file? It happens with this message. Not in ~/.mailcap, not in /etc/mailcap*. -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see It ALWAYS goes wrong, especially if it's mission critical! From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:35:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA09417 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 23 07:35:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA13013; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:35:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA25462; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:35:05 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA34160 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:32:18 -0800 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA12773 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:32:16 -0800 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:31:57 -0700 Received: from es08snlnt.sandia.gov (es08snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.130.11]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1NFVvV11699 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:31: 57 -0700 (MST) Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov ([134.253.45.38]) by es08snlnt.sandia.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 1BZASW2P; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:31:57 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:31:58 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sending msg from command prompt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-WSS-ID: 16885DE785135-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 128 mpack is a much better solution. It does exactly what you're trying to do. > > I searched the Pine pages and email list archive for instructions on using > the -I switch, but didn't come up with much. I am hoping that someone on > this list can clarrify what is wrong with this command: > > pine -attach ise-mojo.zip -I^x,y ise@tao.ca From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:52:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA14595 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 23 07:52:52 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA13508; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:52:52 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA07774; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:52:01 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA88890 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:51:05 -0800 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA17106 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:50:59 -0800 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:50:36 -0700 Received: from es08snlnt.sandia.gov (es08snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.130.11]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1NFoaV15219 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:50: 36 -0700 (MST) Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov ([134.253.45.38]) by es08snlnt.sandia.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 1BZASXFC; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:50:36 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:50:38 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sharing Pine & PC-Pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-WSS-ID: 1688594688087-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 129 ??? You are telling Linux Pine to look at "f:\home\mail\[*.mtx]"?!?!? Linux doesn't parse DOS paths. You should instead set it to "/f/home/mail/[*.mtx]". > In Linux, I've mounted the Windoze partition as /f, so in the .pinerc > file I set "folder-collections=Mail f:\home\mail\[*.mtx]". Now from > Pine, I can do an "L" command, and see the list of folders in the mail > directory. However, when I try to open one of them, more often than not > Pine simply stalls in the open. (But strangely enough, not on every > one: I can open one or two of the dozen or so.) > > Has anyone done this before, or have ideas as to what might be going on? > I'm using 4.21 on both systems. > > Thanks, > James > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:33:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA00440 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 23 09:33:37 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA17078; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:33:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA27982; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:33:06 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA106622 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:31:27 -0800 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA05608 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:31:26 -0800 Received: from 140.reno-01-02rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net ([12.72.144.140]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010223173122.CKDE7147.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@140.reno-01-02rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net>; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:31:22 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:33:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sharing files between Pine & PC-Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jamesqf@postoffice.att.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 130 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Matt Ackeret wrote: > >I have both Linux and Windoze installed on my machine, and would like to > >have both access the same mail files, so that I won't have to quit Linux > >to look at the mail I received while I was running Windoze, or vice > >versa. > > If you access your mail with IMAP rather than POP, it won't matter WHAT > operating system you're running when you get mail, since it will all > be on the server. Thanks, but that's not how I'm set up. My access to the mail server is through a modem. Any mail received is downloaded to my machine before I see it, so I can read it at my leisure and not tie up the single phone line more than necessary. All the mail I want to work with exists in various Pine "folders" (*.mtx files) on my machine, so I would think I ought to be able to access them (and indeed I can look at them with an editor, and don't notice any obvious differences between the ones Pine can read and the ones it can't). So what's the trick? Thanks, James From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:04:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA29829 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 23 13:04:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA05297; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:04:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA22118; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:03:29 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA90940 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:01:18 -0800 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA07940 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:01:17 -0800 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:01:14 -0700 Received: from es08snlnt.sandia.gov (es08snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.130.11]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1NL1EV18192 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:01: 14 -0700 (MST) Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov ([134.253.45.38]) by es08snlnt.sandia.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 1BZAT2FC; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:01:14 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:01:14 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sharing files between Pine & PC-Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-WSS-ID: 16881010126067-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 131 > Thanks, but that's not how I'm set up. My access to the mail server is > through a modem. Any mail received is downloaded to my machine before I > see it, so I can read it at my leisure and not tie up the single phone > line more than necessary. > > All the mail I want to work with exists in various Pine "folders" (*.mtx > files) on my machine, so I would think I ought to be able to access them > (and indeed I can look at them with an editor, and don't notice any > obvious differences between the ones Pine can read and the ones it > can't). So what's the trick? Maybe the ^M's at the end of the line? DOS text does this, *nix doesn't. Thank you, Bill Gates! From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:06:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id RAA06230 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 23 17:06:43 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA12549; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:06:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA21658; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:06:16 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA104390 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:56:21 -0800 Received: from pop3free.com (sense-rickd-200.oz.net [216.39.161.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA03738 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:56:17 -0800 Received: from graciela.gpirujo.com by pop3free.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:56:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (gpirujo@localhost) by graciela.gpirujo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00250 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:53:36 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:53:36 -0300 (ART) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Guillermo Pereyra Irujo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sharing files between Pine & PC-Pine (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Return-Path: gpirujo@pop3free.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 132 > > >I have both Linux and Windoze installed on my machine, and would like to > > >have both access the same mail files, so that I won't have to quit Linux > > >to look at the mail I received while I was running Windoze, or vice > > >versa. > > > > If you access your mail with IMAP rather than POP, it won't matter WHAT > > operating system you're running when you get mail, since it will all > > be on the server. > > Thanks, but that's not how I'm set up. My access to the mail server is > through a modem. Any mail received is downloaded to my machine before I > see it, so I can read it at my leisure and not tie up the single phone > line more than necessary. > > All the mail I want to work with exists in various Pine "folders" (*.mtx > files) on my machine, so I would think I ought to be able to access them > (and indeed I can look at them with an editor, and don't notice any > obvious differences between the ones Pine can read and the ones it > can't). So what's the trick? Maybe Pine cannot read files with CR-LF but with only LF? -- Guillermo Pereyra Irujo mailto:gpirujo@bigfoot.com From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:53:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA17971 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Feb 23 18:53:38 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA14824; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:53:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA21422; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:53:17 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA111330 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:52:40 -0800 Received: from mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA04973 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:52:40 -0800 Received: from 152.reno-01-02rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net ([12.72.144.152]) by mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010224025236.YAOU22163.mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net@152.reno-01-02rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net>; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:52:36 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:54:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sharing Pine & PC-Pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Sands X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jamesqf@postoffice.att.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 133 On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Daniel Sands wrote: > ??? > You are telling Linux Pine to look at "f:\home\mail\[*.mtx]"?!?!? > Linux doesn't parse DOS paths. You should instead set it to > "/f/home/mail/[*.mtx]". Sorry, that was a typo. I should have said that in the PC-Pine pinerc file, it's set to "f:\home\mail\[*.mtx]", while in the Linux .pinerc file, the same variable is set to "/f/home/mail/[*.mtx]", with the Windoze F: partition mounted as /f. James From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:49:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA02194 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:49:16 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 24 04:49:15 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA25305; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:49:14 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA26418; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:48:23 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA98818 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:45:33 -0800 Received: from smtp.red.net (smtp.red.net [195.74.130.3]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA23511 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:45:32 -0800 Received: from host18.dial.red.net (host18.dial.red.net [195.74.130.38]) by smtp.red.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1OCjJp15447; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:45:20 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:39:40 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sharing Pine & PC-Pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: James X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 134 On 21 Feb 2001, James (jamesqf@att.net) wrote: > I have both Linux and Windoze installed on my machine, and would like to > have both access the same mail files, so that I won't have to quit Linux > to look at the mail I received while I was running Windoze, or vice > versa. > > In Linux, I've mounted the Windoze partition as /f, so in the .pinerc > file I set "folder-collections=Mail f:\home\mail\[*.mtx]". Now from > Pine, I can do an "L" command, and see the list of folders in the mail > directory. However, when I try to open one of them, more often than not > Pine simply stalls in the open. (But strangely enough, not on every > one: I can open one or two of the dozen or so.) I don't have a dual boot machine but it's something I want to do one of these days so I'm very curious about this too. If I were you, here's what I'd try. First make sure that both PC-Pine and Linux Pine are the latest version (4.33). Then replicate one of the folders that you can open on both systems; call the replicant Good (there is no need to use an extension like .MTX so don't). Now in PC-Pine open one of the folders that cannot be opened in Linux Pine. Select all the messages in the folder and save them to the folder named Good using: ; A A S Good Now check that you can open and read Good in PC-Pine. Next reboot into Linux and start Linux Pine and see if Good can be read by Linux Pine. If it can, then you have a procedure for converting the "Bad" folders to Good folders. Let us know what happens, Nancy Infinite Ink http://www.ii.com From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:41:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA21945 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:41:01 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Feb 24 09:40:59 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA17098; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:40:59 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA24048; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:40:36 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA136194 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:36:51 -0800 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA27215 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:36:51 -0800 Received: from 161.reno-03-04rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net ([12.72.145.161]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010224173647.UPXO25433.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@161.reno-03-04rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net>; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:36:47 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:38:51 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sharing files between Pine & PC-Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Sands X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jamesqf@postoffice.att.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 135 On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Daniel Sands wrote: > > All the mail I want to work with exists in various Pine "folders" (*.mtx > > files) on my machine, so I would think I ought to be able to access them > > (and indeed I can look at them with an editor, and don't notice any > > obvious differences between the ones Pine can read and the ones it > > can't). So what's the trick? > > Maybe the ^M's at the end of the line? DOS text does this, *nix > doesn't. Thank you, Bill Gates! I'll look at it, but I'd be surprised if that had anything to do with it, since the files are stored in Pine's internal format. And after all, any decent mail program has to be able to handle mail that was created on either Unix or Windoze systems (or on anything else, like IBM mainframes that use non-ASCII character sets). James From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:53:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id IAA13013 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 25 08:52:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA08062; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:52:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA28768; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:51:05 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA43156 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:46:06 -0800 Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [195.133.68.22]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA12281 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:46:04 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.mccme.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id TAA08814 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:21:47 +0300 Received: from localhost (IDENT:ivan@zephyrous.ru [127.0.0.1]) by zephyrous.ru (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f1PGeot21120 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:40:50 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:40:50 +0300 (MSK) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ivan Zakharyaschev To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: build against glibc 2.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 136 Greetings! I'd like know whether anyone has already built Pine against the last glibc on Linux. Or is planning to do so in the nearest future. If yes -- could you send me the patches. Probably they are going to be rather trivial (a few explicit "include"'s), I just don't want the same work to be done twice. In fact, when compiling, the first problems occur in the IMAP part of the sources. A more global question that I always wanted to ask, but never did: is it possible to compile Pine without having all the IMAP and c-client sources, by including some header-files and linking against some imap or c-client libraries? That would spare some time on building, the size of the tarball with sources and perhaps the size of the binaries (if they are linked dynamically against the c-client library and there are other programs in the system that are based on the same c-client). By the way, do you know of any other such IMAP clients (I mean, based on c-client)? Best regards, Ivan Z. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:19:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA31445 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 25 09:19:17 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA08518; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:19:16 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA34748; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:17:22 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA49042 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:14:01 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA32074 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:14:00 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp129040.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.159]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19666; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:08:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1PHFMQ09751; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:15:22 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:15:21 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: build against glibc 2.2.2 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1463809535-301376925-983121321=:2548" X-To: Ivan Zakharyaschev X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 137 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1463809535-301376925-983121321=:2548 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ivan Zakharyaschev wrote: >I'd like know whether anyone has already built Pine against the last >glibc on Linux. Or is planning to do so in the nearest future. If yes -- >could you send me the patches. > >Probably they are going to be rather trivial (a few explicit "include"'s), >I just don't want the same work to be done twice. In fact, when compiling, >the first problems occur in the IMAP part of the sources. The problem is the code assuming sys/time.h includes time.h, which it no longer does. Attached is my patch from the current Red Hat RPM's in Rawhide. Hope this helps. TTYL -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. 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Of course. Just take a look in Rawhide.=20 > Probably they are going to be rather trivial (a few explicit > "include"'s), Yes. --=20 Trond Eivind Glomsr=F8d Red Hat, Inc. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:20:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA23065 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 25 10:20:01 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA22595; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:20:00 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA30986; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:13:07 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA92466 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:08:43 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com ([199.183.24.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA17398 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:08:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1PI8cx25088 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:08:38 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:08:38 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: build against glibc 2.2.2 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 139 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: >>I'd like know whether anyone has already built Pine against the last >>glibc on Linux. Or is planning to do so in the nearest future. If yes -- >>could you send me the patches. >> >>Probably they are going to be rather trivial (a few explicit "include"'s), >>I just don't want the same work to be done twice. In fact, when compiling, >>the first problems occur in the IMAP part of the sources. > >The problem is the code assuming sys/time.h includes time.h, >which it no longer does. Attached is my patch from the current >Red Hat RPM's in Rawhide. I hate replying to my own message, however I made a misattribution above. It should say "the patch" not "my patch" - a brainfart on my part.. The patch is Trond's and was taken from our imap package. Just wanted to correct this attribution. TTYL -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:50:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA16448 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Feb 25 20:50:48 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA20183; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:50:47 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA22172; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:49:47 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA109110 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:45:45 -0800 Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [195.133.68.22]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA13407 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:45:43 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.mccme.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id HAA14024 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:21:47 +0300 Received: from localhost (IDENT:ivan@zephyrous.ru [127.0.0.1]) by zephyrous.ru (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f1PMGkt29440 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:16:46 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:16:46 +0300 (MSK) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ivan Zakharyaschev To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: build against glibc 2.2.2 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 140 Mike, Trond, thank you. On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ivan Zakharyaschev wrote: > > >I'd like know whether anyone has already built Pine against the last > >glibc on Linux. Or is planning to do so in the nearest future. If yes > -- > >could you send me the patches. > > > >Probably they are going to be rather trivial (a few explicit > "include"'s), > >I just don't want the same work to be done twice. In fact, when > compiling, > >the first problems occur in the IMAP part of the sources. > > The problem is the code assuming sys/time.h includes time.h, > which it no longer does. Attached is my patch from the current > Red Hat RPM's in Rawhide. > > Hope this helps. > > TTYL Best regards, Ivan Z. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:09:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA14127 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 26 10:09:02 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA17336; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:09:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA25370; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:07:33 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA80866 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:05:14 -0800 Received: from hastings-ent.com ([198.186.144.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA30599 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:05:14 -0800 Received: from hasting.com (nserver.hasting.com [204.156.201.53]) by hastings-ent.com (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/1.1.1) with SMTP id MAA09098 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:13:18 -0600 Received: from ntsrv0.hasting.com by nserver.hasting.com id aa16331; 26 Feb 101 11:47 CST Received: by ntsrv0.hasting.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:57:43 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:57:40 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Massey, Damon" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Sharing Pine & PC-Pine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 141 The only thing I can think of is to make sure that the drive is mounted with correct permissions so you will have permissions to read and write from/to on the *nix side of things. I know you're not using Exchange or MAPI, but another thing that was causing mine to stall for a few minutes on my folder-collections with MS Exchange was the rsh timeout value. I had to set it to 0 for my setup to work right. I wonder if it might be thinking it needs to rsh to the folder collection before reading from the "local" files. Hope this helps... Damon Massey http://www.suspiciousdisco.com -----Original Message----- From: James [mailto:jamesqf@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:05 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sharing Pine & PC-Pine? I have both Linux and Windoze installed on my machine, and would like to have both access the same mail files, so that I won't have to quit Linux to look at the mail I received while I was running Windoze, or vice versa. In Linux, I've mounted the Windoze partition as /f, so in the .pinerc file I set "folder-collections=Mail f:\home\mail\[*.mtx]". Now from Pine, I can do an "L" command, and see the list of folders in the mail directory. However, when I try to open one of them, more often than not Pine simply stalls in the open. (But strangely enough, not on every one: I can open one or two of the dozen or so.) Has anyone done this before, or have ideas as to what might be going on? I'm using 4.21 on both systems. Thanks, James -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:26:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA09651 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 26 18:26:24 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA00911; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:26:24 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA23920; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:25:46 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA84538 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:24:23 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA28364 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:24:22 -0800 Received: (qmail 20226 invoked by uid 1828); 27 Feb 2001 02:24:22 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:24:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 142 ok, saving a message from my suspected_spam folder into my INBOX got messed up again.. 4.33. I don't think I was viewing all headers.. not sure.. This was shown *in* the message, as well as being able to show headers separately.. Return-Path: Delivered-To: mattack@area.com Received: (qmail 14425 invoked by alias); 27 Feb 2001 02:00:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact poker-help@area.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Mailing-List: poker@area.com estab. 1999 Reply-To: poker@area.com Delivered-To: mailing list poker@area.com Received: (qmail 14408 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 02:00:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20010227015957.3585.qmail@beach.areasystems.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Organization: Area Systems - http://www.area.com/ To: poker@area.com Subject: Poker @ Harry's on this Fri (March 2) ? Reply-To: poker@area.com From: harrison@area.com X-What: pants > LET'S EXPORT SOME DEPECHE MODE Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:59:57 -0800 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.2b/makemail 2.8t pine 4.33.. Any ideas on how to help figure it out? mattack@area.com From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:47:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA32160 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Feb 26 20:47:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA22981; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:47:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA17598; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:47:01 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA84702 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:45:39 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA04546 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:45:38 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1R4jc927812; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:45:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:45:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 143 Hello, Here's a bug, if you have enabled the "recognition" of url and email addresses, the following address (is a valid e-mail address) is recognized as a url, not as an e-mail address. www-lib-request@w3.org -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:48:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA02617 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 04:48:22 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA13008; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:48:19 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA22712; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:48:01 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA09374 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:47:08 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA31120 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:47:08 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp128986.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.105]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03498; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:41:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1RClq706370; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:47:52 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:47:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 144 On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:45:38 -0800 (PST) >From: Eduardo Chappa >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: bug > >Hello, > > Here's a bug, if you have enabled the "recognition" of url and email >addresses, the following address (is a valid e-mail address) is recognized >as a url, not as an e-mail address. > > www-lib-request@w3.org Likewise for ftp-whatever. Also, if you have an address like: Please visit my website at: ftp.websites.com:~/joeblow the heuristics will automatically turn it into an ftp URL. I think the heuristic should ignore the first few letters and focus on the format instead.. or have a config option.. Just a thought.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER - These opoi^H^H "damn", ^H, [esc :q :qq !q "shoot!" :Q! "Whaddya mean, Not an editor command?" :wq! ^C^C^C !STOP ^bye ^quit :quit! !halt ... ^w^q :!w :wq! ^D :qq!! ^STOP [HALT! HALT!!! "Why's it doing this?" :stopit! :wwqq!! ^Z ^L ^ESC STOP :bye bye bye! "Hey, what's this red button d..." From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id IAA10287 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 08:57:15 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA18996; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:57:14 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA16786; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:56:38 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA65638 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:46:27 -0800 Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA13547 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:46:26 -0800 Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14XnGa-0001bg-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:46:24 +0000 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14XnGs-0004uo-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:46:42 +0000 Received: from STRANGECHARM ([155.198.210.99]) by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CGZR6XLX; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:46:24 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:43:09 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP accessible pine-info archives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: NULL@jura.cc.ic.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 145 I have some questions about accessing the pine-info archives at *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] which is described here: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ It's great that the UW makes these archives available via IMAP and I'd love it if they (or someone) would make the comp.mail.pine archives available via IMAP (maybe Google will do that?!). Here are my questions: 1) When I access one of these folders I get messages like this: --- begin journal excerpt --- Opening "pine-info.2001.02" {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}#public/pine/pin : Mailbox vulnerable - directory /ftp/world/pine {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}#public/pine/pin : Unable to parse internal date: 0-???-1970 00: Folder "pine-info.2001.02" opened with 142 messages READONLY --- end journal excerpt --- Does the "Mailbox vulnerable" message mean that this server isn't configured correctly or is this just the way that public folders work? (I don't have any experience with public folders.) 2) Is this: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] the best way to specify the collection or is it better to use the notation that's used in the journal (i.e., "#public")? 3) It seems to work when I put this in either my folder-collections or my news-collections? Is there any disadvantage to listing it in my news-collections? I'd rather put it in my news-collections so I can have it in my pinerc-generic, which I discuss here: http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/sharing/ 4) This is a request: It would be great if the current folder (pine-info.2001.02 at the moment) could be linked to a folder called "current" so I could put: {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/current, in my incoming folder list and it would always open the current archive. Thanks, Nancy -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:17:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA26267 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 09:17:40 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA19786; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:17:39 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA19192; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:17:15 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA08278 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:15:05 -0800 Received: from tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (h240.s254.netsol.com [216.168.254.240]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA19703 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:15:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (raldi@localhost) by tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1RHF1G27753 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:15:01 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:15:01 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Schiraldi To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Announce: usmt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: X-Authentication-Warning: tron.admin.cto.netsol.com: raldi owned process doing -bs X-Sender: raldi@tron.admin.cto.netsol.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 146 I was working on getting S/MIME support into another MUA, and realized that an application was sorely needed that provided a key management database indexed by email address. So i've put together a program called usmt, or Universal Secure Mail Tools. Not only is it such a database, it also provides a simple and universal interface for S/MIME backends like OpenSSL. Also, it can be extended to support any other crypto system, like PGP. A MUA can say to it, "This is the public key for foo@bar.com. And this is my private key" and then later come back and say, "Sign this message, and then encrypt it so that only foo@bar.com can see it." The protocol by which it communicates with MUAs is a subset of RFC 822. The program was designed so that usmt support could be added to a MUA with as little new code as possible. It's open source, of course. LGPLed. (Why not just GPLed? Well, even though, as a Perl script, it can't really be linked in the traditional sense to any MUA that i'm aware of, our legal department figured we might as well explicitly say it's okay to use its services with a closed-source MUA. Makes sense to me.) I'm going to start integrating it into mutt, but would welcome any efforts to get Pine to speak to it. It should be an easy task for someone familiar with the Pine code, but if i'm wrong, let me know if i can make it easier by changing the protocol or whatever. The latest release is available at http://download.sourceforge.net/janitor/usmt-0.4.1.tar.gz You'll need to install some Perl modules, too: http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/C/CJ/CJM/Tie-CPHash-1.001.tar.gz http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/G/GA/GAAS/Digest-MD5-2.12.tar.gz http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/G/GA/GAAS/MIME-Base64-2.12.tar.gz The project mailing list is at http://smime.pyerotechnics.com/mailman/listinfo/dev -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:55:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA04668 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 11:55:45 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA12668; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:55:45 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA32162; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:54:58 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA114064 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:51:16 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com ([199.183.24.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA28373 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:51:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1RJpB301443 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:51:11 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:51:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sort by per-folder basis? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 147 Is there a way to sort on a folder by folder basis in PINE? I like my INBOX sorted in arrival order so that I can address each message as it comes in. This works well even if some unlucky person has his/her clock set back 2 years from running some broken Windows game that mucks with the clock, then boots back into Linux for example. ;o) I get the message just fine. In mailing list folders however, I'd like it sorted by the tHread method by default. Is there a way of setting "tHread" for default, and then overriding it on INBOX, and possibly the odd other folder? If not, this would be a wonderful PINE enhancement. -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:00:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA17116 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 18:00:06 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA05801; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:00:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA21028; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:59:45 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA141266 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:57:14 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA00852 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:57:14 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1S1vE9273086; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:57:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:57:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: another bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 148 Hello, Here's another bug. Go to your configuration, delete the value of your personal name (make it look ""), then exit your configuration but say "NO" when it asks you to save the changes. Wait a few seconds, and you'll receive the following message: [Changes to remote-abook-validity will affect your next pine session.] That's a Bug. (exact kestrokes are: M S C D Y ^M ^M E N, now wait a second or two). I did not make any changes. Moreover, if I quit Pine none of my messages in my inbox are moved to the "saved-messages" folder, which contradicts my setting of moving messages automatically when quitting. That's another bug. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:24:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA32473 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 18:24:34 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA06463; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:24:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA23336; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:24:16 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA141290 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:21:47 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA04464 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:21:46 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp128986.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.105]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08159; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:15:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1S2MWw14306; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:22:32 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:22:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 149 On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:57:13 -0800 (PST) >From: Eduardo Chappa >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: another bug > >Hello, > > Here's another bug. Go to your configuration, delete the value of your >personal name (make it look ""), then exit your configuration >but say "NO" when it asks you to save the changes. Wait a few seconds, and >you'll receive the following message: > >[Changes to remote-abook-validity will affect your next pine session.] > >That's a Bug. (exact kestrokes are: M S C D Y ^M ^M E N, now wait a >second or two). Doesn't happen for me.. just to give some feedback.. I do not use remote addr book though so maybe it only happens with remote addrbook.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER - These opoi^H^H "damn", ^H, [esc :q :qq !q "shoot!" :Q! "Whaddya mean, Not an editor command?" :wq! ^C^C^C !STOP ^bye ^quit :quit! !halt ... ^w^q :!w :wq! ^D :qq!! ^STOP [HALT! HALT!!! "Why's it doing this?" :stopit! :wwqq!! ^Z ^L ^ESC STOP :bye bye bye! "Hey, what's this red button d..." From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:33:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA28093 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 18:33:56 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA06653; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:33:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA25898; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:33:32 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA60442 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:31:21 -0800 Received: from pop3free.com (sense-rickd-200.oz.net [216.39.161.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA07807 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:31:20 -0800 Received: from graciela.gpirujo.com by pop3free.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:32:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (gpirujo@localhost) by graciela.gpirujo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00656 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:58:56 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:58:56 -0300 (ART) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Guillermo Pereyra Irujo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Another pine enhancement MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Return-Path: gpirujo@pop3free.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 150 Another idea for pine would be an auto-flush feature, which automatically deletes a message or moves it to a pre-delete folder when one of these (and possibly other) conditions match: -the message is more than x days old -the folder has more than x messages and this message is the older -the folder's size is more than x kbytes and this message is the older This feature would be aimed to automatically keep in a folder (probably an incoming folder, not an archive one) just the last messages (of the last 30 days, for example) to reduce the sorting time and avoid unnoticed 20Mb folders, among others. I know the pruned-folders feature does this, but it just leaves you with no messages from the day before each 1st of a month, and it works only in a per-month basis. That IS useful for a folder like sent-mail, which one never opens (I never do, at least). I think it's not that useful for the inbox. Maybe the solution is not adding a new feature but just a new field to the filters: Days-old. Though this would work only with the first condition I proposed, there will be then a way to achive that auto-flush effect I mentioned at the beginning. -- Guillermo Pereyra Irujo mailto:gpirujo@bigfoot.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:39:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA17527 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:39:00 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 18:38:59 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA26257; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:38:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA25746; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:38:37 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA143180 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:36:11 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA18969 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:36:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1S2h0C15329 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:13:00 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:13:00 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 151 *** Mike A. Harris wrote on pine-info list on 2001-02-27 at 21:22 -0500: > Doesn't happen for me.. just to give some feedback.. I do not > use remote addr book though so maybe it only happens with remote > addrbook.. It didn't happen for me as well. But a strange message! Here are a few lines from the journal file: No Configuration changes saved Closing empty folder "/var/spool/mail/mohit" Changes to news-spool-directory will affect your next pine session. Can somebody explain the last line? (I don't use remote addressbook. Pine4.33 + some of Eduardo's patches) -- Mohit Agarwal --------------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Public Key: http://cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~mohit/mohit.gpg From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:53:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA23151 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 18:53:29 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA07033; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:53:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA28944; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:52:56 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA15442 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:51:02 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA22163 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:50:58 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp128986.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.105]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08276 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:44:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1S2pbe14451 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:51:37 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:51:36 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 152 On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Mohit Agarwal wrote: >Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:13:00 +0530 (IST) >From: Mohit Agarwal >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Reply-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: Re: another bug > >*** Mike A. Harris wrote on pine-info list on 2001-02-27 at 21:22 -0500: > >> Doesn't happen for me.. just to give some feedback.. I do not >> use remote addr book though so maybe it only happens with remote >> addrbook.. > >It didn't happen for me as well. But a strange message! Here are a few >lines from the journal file: > >No Configuration changes saved >Closing empty folder "/var/spool/mail/mohit" >Changes to news-spool-directory will affect your next pine session. > >Can somebody explain the last line? > >(I don't use remote addressbook. Pine4.33 + some of Eduardo's patches) I don't get that problem either: Using default value No Configuration changes saved I'm using 4.33+ one patch for the menu O option. pine-4.33-0.0.4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Fun thing to do as root, in the root directory: chmod -R 666 * Just as bad as rm -rf *, but more fun. "The files are all there, but I can't do anything with them!" And you can't change permissions, since chmod isn't executable either. :-) From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:28:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA00652 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 19:28:46 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA07840; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:28:45 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA23114; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:28:18 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA55642 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:27:30 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA13402 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:27:29 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1S3RS9281415; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:27:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:27:28 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 153 *** Mike A. Harris (mharris@opensourceadvocate.org) wrote today: :) >That's a Bug. (exact kestrokes are: M S C D Y ^M ^M E N, now wait a :) >second or two). :) :) Doesn't happen for me.. just to give some feedback.. I do not :) use remote addr book though so maybe it only happens with remote :) addrbook.. I don't use remote addressbook either. Are you using the exact keystrokes as described above?. I have two address-books though, where I separate peoplo that relate to me in different ways (family, friends in one addressbook and work, etc in another). You have to wait a few seconds for the "bad" message to appear. The variable "remote-abook-validity" is defined to be empty in my .pinerc file. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:01:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA29350 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:01:08 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA27867; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:01:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA30568; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:00:26 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA151010 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:59:46 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA17110 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:59:46 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp128986.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.105]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08564; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:53:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1S40Wr14760; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:00:32 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:00:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 154 On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >:) >That's a Bug. (exact kestrokes are: M S C D Y ^M ^M E N, now wait a >:) >second or two). >:) >:) Doesn't happen for me.. just to give some feedback.. I do not >:) use remote addr book though so maybe it only happens with remote >:) addrbook.. > >I don't use remote addressbook either. Are you using the exact keystrokes >as described above?. Precicely the same. I even did it again, and I used CTRL-M as written above instead of using ENTER, just to be sure. I get the same thing, no problems. >I have two address-books though, where I separate peoplo that >relate to me in different ways (family, friends in one >addressbook and work, etc in another). You have to wait a few >seconds for the "bad" message to appear. The variable >"remote-abook-validity" is defined to be empty in my .pinerc >file. Mine too.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows 95(n) - 32-bit extensions and graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:04:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA21773 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:04:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:04:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA08542; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:04:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA23214; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:04:04 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA59970 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:03:23 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA17606 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:03:23 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1S43M9285279 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:03:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:03:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 155 *** Mohit Agarwal (mohit@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in) wrote in the pine-info...: :) It didn't happen for me as well. But a strange message! Here are a few :) lines from the journal file: :) :) No Configuration changes saved :) Closing empty folder "/var/spool/mail/mohit" :) Changes to news-spool-directory will affect your next pine session. :) :) Can somebody explain the last line? :) :) (I don't use remote addressbook. Pine4.33 + some of Eduardo's patches) Wow, that's strange. Before anyone jumps into conclusions, I always keep a clean version of Pine so that I can test bugs before I report them (otherwise it's my bug and I fix it silently :)), and I tested this behavior with the clean version of Pine. Having said that, the fact that something is happening in your side (although not the same as in my side) means that there's something wrong in Pine. What exactly? I don't know... -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:11:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA24381 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:11:46 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA28047; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:11:45 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA32078; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:11:24 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA47880 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:09:20 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA31146 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:09:20 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1S49J9285410; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:09:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:09:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 156 *** Mike A. Harris (mharris@opensourceadvocate.org) wrote today: :) Precicely the same. I even did it again, and I used CTRL-M as :) written above instead of using ENTER, just to be sure. I get the :) same thing, no problems. Hmm, more strange. I executed "pine -d 9" and then after reproducing the bug I executed "fgrep anges .pine-debug1". This is the output, mayb someone can explain it. freq 12 tm 420 changes 14 since_1st_change 7 Check:if changes(14)xadj_cca(36) >= freq(12)x200 q_status_message(No Configuration changes saved) q_status_message(Changes to news-active-file-path will af) q_status_message(Changes to news-spool-directory will aff) q_status_message(Changes to incoming-folders will affect ) q_status_message(Changes to folder-collections will affec) q_status_message(Changes to news-collections will affect ) q_status_message(Changes to user-input-timeout will affec) q_status_message(Changes to rsh-command will affect your ) q_status_message(Changes to rsh-path will affect your nex) q_status_message(Changes to ssh-command will affect your ) q_status_message(Changes to ssh-path will affect your nex) q_status_message(Changes to disable-these-drivers will af) q_status_message(Changes to disable-these-authenticators ) q_status_message(Changes to remote-abook-history will aff) q_status_message(Changes to remote-abook-validity will af) output_message(No Configuration changes saved) freq 36 tm 840 changes 14 since_1st_change 25 Check:if changes(14)xadj_cca(126) >= freq(36)x200 d_q_status_message(No Configuration changes saved) d_q_status_message(Changes to news-active-file-path will af) d_q_status_message(Changes to news-spool-directory will aff) d_q_status_message(Changes to incoming-folders will affect ) d_q_status_message(Changes to folder-collections will affec) d_q_status_message(Changes to news-collections will affect ) d_q_status_message(Changes to user-input-timeout will affec) d_q_status_message(Changes to rsh-command will affect your ) d_q_status_message(Changes to rsh-path will affect your nex) d_q_status_message(Changes to ssh-command will affect your ) d_q_status_message(Changes to ssh-path will affect your nex) d_q_status_message(Changes to disable-these-drivers will af) d_q_status_message(Changes to disable-these-authenticators ) d_q_status_message(Changes to remote-abook-history will aff) output_message(Changes to remote-abook-validity will affect your next pine session.) freq 48 tm 1260 changes 14 since_1st_change 27 Check:if changes(14)xadj_cca(136) >= freq(48)x200 -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/personal.html From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:16:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA22164 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:16:17 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA08772; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:16:17 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA27310; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:16:01 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA49032 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:15:24 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA21809 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:15:23 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1S4FJ9285724; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:15:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:15:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sort by per-folder basis? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 157 *** Mike A. Harris (mharris@redhat.com) wrote today: :) Is there a way to sort on a folder by folder basis in PINE? Not within Pine, but you can apply a patch that I wrote which allows you to customize this on a per folder basis. The patch is called "define your own rules..." and you can get it from my web page, address below. :) If not, this would be a wonderful PINE enhancement. Yep, I enjoy it every day! -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:17:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA11265 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:17:37 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA08821; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:17:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA25374; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:17:12 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA43070 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:16:17 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA21907 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:16:17 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:16:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:16:01 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:15:59 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 158 On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > That's a Bug. (exact kestrokes are: M S C D Y ^M ^M E N, now wait a > second or two). > > I did not make any changes. Moreover, if I quit Pine none of my > messages in my inbox are moved to the "saved-messages" folder, which > contradicts my setting of moving messages automatically when quitting. > That's another bug. Doesn't happen here either..... I'm using Solaris 7. Your headers show Pine.OSF.4.33. Mike's shows Pine.LNX.4.33 Maybe its OS related? -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager Syntegra Asia Region From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:18:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA07051 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:18:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA08841; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:18:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA16744; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:18:11 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA48910 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:17:36 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA32150 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:17:36 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1S4HY9285682; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:17:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:17:34 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP accessible pine-info archives In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 159 *** Nancy McGough (nm-this-address-is-valid@no.sp.am) wrote today: :) 4) This is a request: It would be great if the current folder :) (pine-info.2001.02 at the moment) could be linked to a folder :) called "current" so I could put: :) :) {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/current, :) :) in my incoming folder list and it would always open the current :) archive. If you were on a unix environment I would tell you that you define the path to be {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/$DATE where date is a generated shell variable, maybe you can do something along those lines in windows. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:25:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA26006 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:25:11 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA08993; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:25:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA20718; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:24:47 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA111482 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:24:13 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA00477 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:24:09 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1S4Uxt16662 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:00:59 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:00:59 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: Pine Discussion Forum Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 160 *** Eduardo Chappa wrote on pine-info list on 2001-02-27 at 20:03 -0800: > Wow, that's strange. Before anyone jumps into conclusions, I always keep a > clean version of Pine so that I can test bugs before I report them > (otherwise it's my bug and I fix it silently :)), and I tested this > behavior with the clean version of Pine. Having said that, the fact that > something is happening in your side (although not the same as in my > side) means that there's something wrong in Pine. What exactly? I don't > know... I simply tried what you'd written and found a new funny message. No idea why it appeared. That is precisely what I'd asked; what does this message mean? -- Mohit Agarwal --------------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Public Key: http://cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~mohit/mohit.gpg From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:27:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA18568 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:27:56 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:27:55 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA28407; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:27:55 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA30460; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:27:30 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA55736 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:26:28 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA20394 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:26:28 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1S4QR9285330; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:26:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:26:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 161 *** Edward M Greshko (edward.m.greshko@syntegra.com) wrote on Feb 28, 2001: :) On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: :) :) > That's a Bug. (exact kestrokes are: M S C D Y ^M ^M E N, now wait a :) > second or two). :) > :) > I did not make any changes. Moreover, if I quit Pine none of my :) > messages in my inbox are moved to the "saved-messages" folder, which :) > contradicts my setting of moving messages automatically when quitting. :) > That's another bug. :) :) Doesn't happen here either..... Hmm that's strange. I "deleted" my .pinerc file, started pine and repeated the process, with the same result. Also, can you run run "pine -d 9" and grep your .pine-debug1 file for "Changes"?, maybe they are not being reported on line, but in your debug only? -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:34:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA28183 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:34:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA28510; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:34:14 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA34634; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:33:52 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA48960 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:32:52 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA01546 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:32:52 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1S4Wq9285872 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:32:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:32:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 162 *** Mohit Agarwal (mohit@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in) wrote on Feb 28, 2001: :) I simply tried what you'd written and found a new funny message. No idea :) why it appeared. That is precisely what I'd asked; what does this message :) mean? The message means that Pine *thinks* that it made a change to the value of the configuration variable that is reporting to you, say the news-spool-directory, not to the directory itself. There are certain changes that pine can not update during the same session (e.g. after you enable-incoming-folders you can not add one, you have to quit Pine first). So this is telliung you the same, that the new value of the variable "news-spool-directory" will be valid the next time you open Pine, not this session. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:54:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA15346 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 20:54:18 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA09593; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:54:18 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA31042; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:53:58 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA62326 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:53:06 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA26337 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:53:06 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:53:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:52:56 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:52:55 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 163 On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > Hmm that's strange. I "deleted" my .pinerc file, started pine and repeated > the process, with the same result. Also, can you run run "pine -d 9" and > grep your .pine-debug1 file for "Changes"?, maybe they are not being > reported on line, but in your debug only? Nope.... calvin[2]% grep Change .pine-debug1 3 C [Change Va 12 3 C [Change Va 12 passwd:0 prompt:"Change field personal-name value : " label:"" 3 C [Change Va 12 -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager Syntegra Asia Region From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id XAA14764 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Feb 27 23:46:59 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA12869; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:46:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA17128; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:46:37 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA64816 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:44:05 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA10907 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:44:04 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1S7i49294148 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:44:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:44:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 164 *** On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 I wrote: :) That's a Bug. (exact kestrokes are: M S C D Y ^M ^M E N, now wait a :) second or two). Just tested it with PC-Pine, it happens too! -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:57:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id GAA24921 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 28 06:56:59 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA22429; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:56:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA32532; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:56:36 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA109134 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:54:42 -0800 Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA25320 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:54:38 -0800 Received: from mum.cs.sc.edu (mum.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.144]) by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27950 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost) by mum.cs.sc.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01780 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:54:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:54:36 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-info Mailing List X-Authentication-Warning: mum.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 165 On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > That's a Bug. (exact kestrokes are: M S C D Y ^M ^M E N, now wait a > second or two). Didn't happen to me either. Pine 4.33 on Solaris 7_x86 Hmmm, You've never noticed a bug that I have, now I can't see one that you can. There's something going on here :-) -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:11:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA00630 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:11:56 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 28 09:11:54 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA13610; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:11:54 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA15744; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:11:18 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA90314 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:09:52 -0800 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA18905 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:09:52 -0800 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:09:49 -0700 Received: from es08snlnt.sandia.gov (es08snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.130.11]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1SH9nh26517; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:09:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov ([134.253.45.38]) by es08snlnt.sandia.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F4XA0HMM; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:09:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:09:47 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sharing files between Pine & PC-Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "James" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-WSS-ID: 1683EF575026-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 166 > > > All the mail I want to work with exists in various Pine "folders" (*.mtx > > > files) on my machine, so I would think I ought to be able to access them > > > (and indeed I can look at them with an editor, and don't notice any > > > obvious differences between the ones Pine can read and the ones it > > > can't). So what's the trick? > > > > Maybe the ^M's at the end of the line? DOS text does this, *nix > > doesn't. Thank you, Bill Gates! > > I'll look at it, but I'd be surprised if that had anything to do with > it, since the files are stored in Pine's internal format. And after > all, any decent mail program has to be able to handle mail that was > created on either Unix or Windoze systems (or on anything else, like IBM > mainframes that use non-ASCII character sets). They must deal with external mail, of course. But on the local machine they could store it in EBCDIC if they wanted to. It's actually quite easy to write the wrong formatting if you use the fopen, fread, etc. C calls. In UNIX, binary and text files are treated equally anymore, so nobody thinks of including the extra "b" to read/write binary files. So DOS writes a text file, replacing every \n with \n\r. Whether this is the case with PC-PINE, I don't know, but I wouldn't be at all surprised. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:21:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA04254 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 28 10:21:41 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA16306; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:21:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA04502; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:20:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA64936 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:18:04 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA27579 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:18:03 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA02556; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:18:03 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA15940; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:18:03 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:18:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1903376028-2123769356-983384283=:9000" X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 167 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1903376028-2123769356-983384283=:9000 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is a missing set of parentheses in other.c. The only effect of the bug is to show you the status message when it shouldn't. I've attached a patch. Is the saved-messages bug somehow related to this or does is it a separate bug related only by being in the same email message? Thanks. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > Hello, > > Here's another bug. Go to your configuration, delete the value of your > personal name (make it look ""), then exit your configuration > but say "NO" when it asks you to save the changes. Wait a few seconds, and > you'll receive the following message: > > [Changes to remote-abook-validity will affect your next pine session.] > > That's a Bug. (exact kestrokes are: M S C D Y ^M ^M E N, now wait a > second or two). > > I did not make any changes. Moreover, if I quit Pine none of my > messages in my inbox are moved to the "saved-messages" folder, which > contradicts my setting of moving messages automatically when quitting. > That's another bug. > > ---1903376028-2123769356-983384283=:9000 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: 4.33 other.c patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=diff MTE3MjFjMTE3MjENCjwgICAgIGVsc2UgaWYoIXJldmVydCAmJiB2YXIgPT0g JnBzLT52YXJzW1ZfTEFTVF9USU1FX1BSVU5FX1FVRVNUSU9OXSB8fA0KLS0t DQo+ICAgICBlbHNlIGlmKCFyZXZlcnQgJiYgKHZhciA9PSAmcHMtPnZhcnNb Vl9MQVNUX1RJTUVfUFJVTkVfUVVFU1RJT05dIHx8DQoxMTczNWMxMTczNQ0K PCAJCSAgICAgICB2YXIgPT0gJnBzLT52YXJzW1ZfU1NIUEFUSF0pew0KLS0t DQo+IAkJICAgICAgIHZhciA9PSAmcHMtPnZhcnNbVl9TU0hQQVRIXSkpew0K ---1903376028-2123769356-983384283=:9000-- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:57:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA09392 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:57:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 28 10:57:05 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA30442; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:57:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA04588; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:56:41 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA79744 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:54:07 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA01742 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:54:06 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1SIs69322256; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:54:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:54:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 168 *** Steve Hubert (hubert@cac.washington.edu) wrote today: :) There is a missing set of parentheses in other.c. The only effect of the :) bug is to show you the status message when it shouldn't. I've attached a :) patch. Thank you Steve. The patch works. :) Is the saved-messages bug somehow related to this or does is it a separate :) bug related only by being in the same email message? Thanks. This bug still exists. In a somewhat related matter if I press M, the status line at the top of the screen says: PINE 4.33 MAIN MENU Folder: INBOX 6 Messages Once I follow the procedure I described in my other e-mails. I get the following status line: PINE 4.33 MAIN MENU Folder: gton.edu/imap/user="chappa"}INBOX 6 Messages and that's the indication that I get that when I quit, it won't move read messages to my saved-messages folder. Notice that the definition of my inbox-path is inbox-path = {my.server.washington.edu/user=chappa}INBOX The "imap" string is added by pine or c-client (?). Thank you. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:18:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA32178 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 28 12:17:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA00823; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:17:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA32630; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:16:54 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA136502 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:13:36 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA03285 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:13:35 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA27752 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:13:35 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-89.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.89]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA08723 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:13:35 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:13:35 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 169 Ok, I can reproduce that problem. It looks like it only happens when you answer No to the "Commit changes" question, so not too serious. I haven't figured out exactly how to fix it yet. Thanks. Steve On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Steve Hubert (hubert@cac.washington.edu) wrote today: > > :) There is a missing set of parentheses in other.c. The only effect of the > :) bug is to show you the status message when it shouldn't. I've attached a > :) patch. > > Thank you Steve. The patch works. > > :) Is the saved-messages bug somehow related to this or does is it a separate > :) bug related only by being in the same email message? Thanks. > > This bug still exists. In a somewhat related matter if I press M, the > status line at the top of the screen says: > > PINE 4.33 MAIN MENU Folder: INBOX 6 Messages > > Once I follow the procedure I described in my other e-mails. I get the > following status line: > > PINE 4.33 MAIN MENU Folder: gton.edu/imap/user="chappa"}INBOX 6 Messages > > and that's the indication that I get that when I quit, it won't move read > messages to my saved-messages folder. Notice that the definition of my > inbox-path is > > inbox-path = {my.server.washington.edu/user=chappa}INBOX > > The "imap" string is added by pine or c-client (?). > > Thank you. > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:44:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA02423 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 28 13:44:08 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA03543; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:44:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA14774; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:43:14 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA34278 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:32:06 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA15931 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:32:06 -0800 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (keil@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA22733 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:32:05 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:31:57 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP accessible pine-info archives (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 170 Nancy - Thank you for your message. You have observed several matters which we will need to remedy. Unfortunately, there's a bit of confusion as to who should do what. I've been given the problem to solve, but parts of the fix have to be delegated to others. Please accept my apologies for any delay in getting this fixed. Specifically: > I have some questions about accessing the pine-info archives at > *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] > which is described here: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ The leading "*" is an artifact of ancient history; you don't need it. I don't think that you need the leading #public/ either. > {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}#public/pine/pin : Mailbox vulnerable - directory /ftp/world/pine This is a technical matter due to the format of the files in question. I will look into how to fix this, but for the nonce please ignore this message in this one unique case (normally "Mailbox vulnerable" is a very bad thing...) > {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}#public/pine/pin : Unable to parse internal date: 0-???-1970 00: This is an even more serious problem. It was caused by a bug in how the Pine archive files are written; my suspicion is that it was caused by the "icat" program and I've sent a message to the author of icat about it. We *will* get this fixed, but it may be a short while. > 2) Is this: > *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] > the best way to specify the collection or is it better to use the > notation that's used in the journal (i.e., "#public")? I think that just {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] (no leading "*" or "#public") is best. I'll look into getting the documentation changed (but I'm not the person to do it). > 3) It seems to work when I put this in either my > folder-collections or my news-collections? Is there any > disadvantage to listing it in my news-collections? This is all up to your own personal taste. -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:24:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA08209 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 28 14:24:44 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA24529; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:24:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA27854; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:23:56 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA109206 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:21:13 -0800 Received: from zonetail.med.unc.edu (zonetail.med.unc.edu [152.19.4.12]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA30305 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:21:12 -0800 Received: from pc523h7-01.med.unc.edu (pc523h7-01.med.unc.edu [152.19.59.130]) by zonetail.med.unc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00584 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:21:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:21:12 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Christopher F. Martin" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: error Selecting by Date MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: cmartin@apex.med.unc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 171 Using PC-Pine 4.20, I have encountered a strange error using the aggregate Select (;) command to select messages by Date. When I enter a date criterion between the first (01) and ninth (09) of day the month, I get the following error: IMAP Protocol error: Invalid date in Search command but when I enter dates from the 10th through the end of the month, no error occurrs. Specifically, say I enter these keystrokes (without spaces) to select messages SINCE 02/15/2001: ; D 15-Feb-2001 I get the result expected. But when I enter ; D 02-Feb-2001 I get the above error. For any dates betwen 01 and 09, any month, any year, I get an error; messages within the date range exist in the folder. Same error pattern whether selecting SINCE or BEFORE the date. Moreover, this does not occur in every folder. Two folders in which the error does occur: folder with 82 msgs between 10/20/2000 and 02/28/2001 folder with 104 msgs between 02/01/2001 and 02/28/2001 But another folder in which is does NOT occur: folder with 597 msgs between 01/14/1999 and 02/28/2001 Is this a bug? Chris Martin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christopher F. Martin School of Medicine Center for Gastrointestinal Biology and Disease University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Phone: 919.966.9340 Fax: 919.966.7592 email: cmartin@unc.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:33:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id UAA16233 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:33:28 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Feb 28 20:33:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA14674; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:33:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id UAA33432; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:33:04 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id UAA18824 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:31:47 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA20694 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:31:47 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f214Vl9378342; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:31:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:31:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: another bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 172 *** Steve Hubert (hubert@cac.washington.edu) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Ok, I can reproduce that problem. It looks like it only happens when you :) answer No to the "Commit changes" question, so not too serious. I haven't :) figured out exactly how to fix it yet. Thanks. Thanks Steve for providing me with a patch that now fixes this bug too. If anyone is interested, the complete patch can be downloaded from my web page, address below. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/patches/others.html